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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, still needs.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna do Yeah, You're gonna know this guy immediately. Hey,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the brand new Second Date Update episode. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for being part of the podcast. And I love when

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Speaker 1: you let us know what you think, how you feel

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Speaker 1: or you know how you started listening. Whatever you want

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Speaker 1: to say, you like to read it. Well, this one says, y'all,

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Speaker 1: crack me up. You're like free therapy and I listen

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Speaker 1: to you at eleven pm every night. What more could

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Speaker 1: you want? Hey, Harrison here, listening from Dubai.

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Speaker 4: Session should be a thing.

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Speaker 1: We are not a therapy.

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Speaker 4: As I go to bed is when I think about

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Speaker 1: It's always hardest tonight. Yeah, that is how it is

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Speaker 1: way from Dubai. That's so cool starts now, Yeah, exactly

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Speaker 2: Second date update on the phone.

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Speaker 5: Right now, we have a return caller who's more than

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Speaker 5: just a man, he's an artiste. You may remember Kevin

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Speaker 5: from a previous second date call where he decorates the

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Speaker 1: TikTok trend fridge escape Kevin.

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Speaker 5: That's right, freeg Escaper couldn't be more thrilled to have

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Speaker 5: him back on the show. Kevin, real quick, could you

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Speaker 3: Well, I had a girl rumming place and I ran

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you'd used it in this sculpture that was

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Speaker 3: She didn't like that I thought of using the toilet

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, well old toilet paper actually pro tip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those reasons you get ruined art just for the bathroom.

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Speaker 5: People are particular about lots of weird things. So obviously

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Speaker 5: she wasn't your match. But you're back today cause maybe

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: Okay, did she get to see your fridge scaping skills?

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Speaker 3: You like it. No, Yeah, I got a new got

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Speaker 1: I'm so curious. What's your new hobby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you guys know microwave mosaics?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it shouldn't be metal.

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Speaker 3: So what I do is I rearranged the leftover stains

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Speaker 5: Now, wow, inside your microwave, that's actually you turn that

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Speaker 1: What do you mean? Do you like painted onto like

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Speaker 3: No? I just leave like soup in their way too long,

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Speaker 1: Oh, I would have totally earned you an A in

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Speaker 3: Her name is Audrey?

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Speaker 1: Okay, and how did you meet Audrey?

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Speaker 3: I met her at Michaels when I was picking up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty awesome. Like I was picking up a

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Speaker 1: I think that's so fun, Like our art is so important,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just asked her if she wanted to grab

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Speaker 1: Isn't that wild? Like Michael's the hookup Spot?

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Speaker 1: Place to find a grill, I mean hot tip. Make

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Speaker 3: Well, the date sort of didn't happen, and now I

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm super upset at this point, like I'm

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Speaker 5: Whoa some of those artists creative types, not as like

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Speaker 4: The no apology. I mean, it doesn't mean it's excusable,

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Speaker 2: There a conversation that happened at all?

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Speaker 1: Oh you didn't explain why you were mad?

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Speaker 3: Was she is an hour late?

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Speaker 1: I know, but you didn't even give her a chance

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Speaker 3: Well I wasn't. I didn't hear anything, so I would.

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Speaker 5: That actually makes you have to wait till at least

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Speaker 1: Are you regretting that because you're calling us to get her.

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Speaker 2: But like without any texts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't even say like, hey I'm running late,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's got a huge car accident. You left be

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Speaker 2: Well, if her finger still works, she could at.

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Speaker 1: Least be like, I mean, did you ever find out?

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Speaker 3: No, at this point, like I reached out and like

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Speaker 5: And man, I don't know who side to be on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they both have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those situations that I think we

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Speaker 5: So yeah, Kevin, do you still want to, like try

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Speaker 2: Is that your home?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, like just like a read you.

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Speaker 1: And how are you gonna feel if she doesn't apologize? Still? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Any good question? I hadn't thought about.

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Speaker 1: Okay, think about that one.

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Speaker 5: But she doesn't get to see his microwave Mosaic portfolio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's gonna be her loss.

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Speaker 3: True.

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Speaker 1: I bet the tomato soup one is gonna be one

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Speaker 3: Have you seen it? Do you follow me?

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Speaker 5: You gotta DM some of the photos though over to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, out.

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Speaker 1: And the oatmeal because that oatmeal always.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a totally different segment of the Microwave

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Speaker 5: Mosaic Art breakdown.

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Speaker 2: We'll do that on your Fun Little Side podcast.

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Speaker 5: Yea yeah, all right, but now we got to stick

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Speaker 5: Kevin and find out why Audrey didn't show up for

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I hope we're not prying.

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Speaker 2: I hope we are. We'll do it with your second

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Speaker 2: date update right after this second date update. You know,

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Speaker 2: a true.

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Speaker 5: Artist is able to move between mediums like Picasso did

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Speaker 1: That's correct.

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Speaker 5: Technically, and it was not the right Nobody likes that person, Brook, Okay.

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Speaker 2: You're not backing down.

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Speaker 5: The point is our listener, Kevin was able miraculously to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, show me those splatter patterns.

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Speaker 5: He takes photos of abstract soup splatter in his microwave

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Speaker 1: Did you should try? Butter? That stuff explodes like.

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Speaker 2: Crazy, and she's telling you you're doing your art wrong.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not excited about it, Jeff. I want to like.

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Speaker 2: You're telling him how to do it.

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Speaker 1: Sorry for suggestions, Jeff, I will never suggest anything ever again.

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Speaker 2: Suggestion.

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Speaker 5: It is an aggressive suggestion. But Kevin wears his emotions

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Speaker 1: Wow, apply how he's feeling, Jeff. Okay, maybe should.

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Speaker 2: Kevin am I in the ballpark?

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Speaker 2: This is maybe having an internal struggle here. Can we

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Speaker 5: The issue is Kevin's date showed up an hour late,

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Speaker 5: and when she arrived she said hi. Kevin just said bye.

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Speaker 1: Which I don't blame you like waiting an hour is

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Speaker 1: Oh god, I can't believe you did that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Afterwards, though, she did send a text saying you were rude.

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Speaker 5: You don't even know what I'm going through right now.

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Speaker 5: So that made Kevin feel like, oops, maybe he messed.

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Speaker 1: Up, which is kind of a good life lesson. You know,

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Speaker 1: you just don't know what people are going through. Ever.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, as soon as we get her

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Speaker 1: are you wanting to apologize.

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Speaker 2: Or lay into her? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I do want to hear what she has to say,

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of horny, weird men and that.

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Speaker 2: On in my head show All right, here we go. Hello, Hi,

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Speaker 2: is this Audrey?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? This is her.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to talk to her.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're all excited to talk to you, Audrey, because

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Speaker 5: you're on a radio show right now called Brook and

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Speaker 5: Jeffrey in the Morning.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Audrey, Good morning.

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Speaker 6: Yeah no, I'm all sad. Guys, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Because it's not a telemarket or call.

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Speaker 5: We're doing a segment from our show. This is called

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Speaker 5: a second date update. Have you ever heard of that before?

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Speaker 6: I guess how did you get my number?

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Speaker 5: We have a listener named Kevin who says he went out, well,

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Speaker 5: he almost went out on a date with you recently.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, I know, I know.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a good interaction. We know that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I mean did he even tell you what

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Speaker 1: Then?

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Speaker 2: It walked out.

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Speaker 5: The full story that we heard is you had planet

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Speaker 5: There wasn't a whole lot of communication, and so when

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Speaker 1: Like you said hi, he said bye.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean like I showed up and he never

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Speaker 1: Interesting, and he never text.

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Speaker 4: Didn't you text him at all? Like, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: it's fifteen minutes late. I should probably say something like I.

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Speaker 6: Was, you know, I was going through something and I

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Speaker 2: That's understandable.

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Speaker 5: And Kevin has looked back on the entire experience and

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Speaker 2: That's kind of why we're calling.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Well, what if I told you guys that one

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh so sorry, that's terrible.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I tried to pull myself together after

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Speaker 1: Can't even believe that you even, yeah, showed up. I

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Speaker 5: A personally, but for most people, yes, that that is

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, in my defense, it didn't. They didn't

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Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait, hold on, I died, you know,

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Speaker 1: she didn't say someone died. She said her parents died

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean I said, what if my parents died?

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Speaker 6: Like if that was a scenario.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that was a theoretical situation.

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Speaker 1: I just felt really terrible. Yeah, that was an emotional

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Speaker 1: Let's emphasize the what is maybe stronger next time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I definitely.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean I was trying to just give it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, can you just tell us what was going on

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Speaker 1: but I just need a recovery. I like, it's sadder

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Speaker 1: than that. I don't know if I want to know,

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Speaker 2: The real reason that you were an hour late?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. Maybe if Kevin were to ask me,

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well that that works.

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Speaker 5: Sure, it Actually it works perfectly because Kevin is on

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Speaker 1: OHI he almost felt like the worst person in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what did happen? I still don't really understand. I

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Speaker 3: I feel bad that I didn't give you a chance

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Speaker 1: She's still there.

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Speaker 6: I mean, well, what if I told you that my

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Speaker 3: What you already did?

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Speaker 5: That he heard that part, Audrey, Wait, you were here

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So why were you really late?

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Speaker 6: If you really want to know? I kind of just

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Speaker 5: Oh wait, what's worse the parents passing or her forgetting

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Speaker 5: about It's pretty close.

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Speaker 1: Why is there no in between? Forgetting is forgivable? I

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Speaker 6: Well, because he had, he had texted me, you know,

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Speaker 6: you didn't even give me a chance to say anything.

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Speaker 1: What were you going to say?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know I was gonna say something

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Speaker 2: I don't know You're gonna lie to it. She's gonna

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Speaker 2: say what if first though, I told you, Kevin? How

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just kind of like wondering what if

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Speaker 1: Why are we both growing hypotheticals at each other? Like

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Speaker 6: I just feel like you're being petty.

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Speaker 3: I'm just using the example that you use Audrey for me.

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Speaker 3: So if I'm being petty, then that's your fault.

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Speaker 6: God, Okay, no, that's not No. Those aren't even close

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Speaker 6: to being the same.

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Speaker 3: Exactly that, it's the literal same.

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Speaker 1: They're doing it again, though. They're trying to out petty

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 5: The thing about a successful relationship is somebody has to

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Speaker 5: be willing to admit that they were wrong and they

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Speaker 5: messed up in order to move forward, and you both.

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Speaker 2: Kind of messed up in your own rights.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's powerful to apologize.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean you're right, that you're right. Somebody needs

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Speaker 3: to apologize. I'm gonna give her three seconds to do it.

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Speaker 2: Oh all right, Audrey, ball's in your court. Do you

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Speaker 6: I think you know that it's going to take me

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Speaker 6: at least an hour.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: Some nuggets of truth to it, And I can't believe

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Speaker 3: microw with mosaics, like I've never even shown that to

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, Audrey, did you even know he had those?

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Speaker 6: He told me about it.

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Speaker 3: He wouldn't shut up about it. Oh well, well I've

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Speaker 3: said it before and I'll say it again. Bye.

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Speaker 2: WHOA does want to date Kevin?

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Speaker 5: You can't say bye because I haven't even asked Audrey

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Speaker 2: Date with you. Because Audrey, if you're up for it,

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Speaker 2: we would pay for it.

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Speaker 6: Oh wow, look at that. I just got a text

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Speaker 3: Passed the.

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Speaker 1: Information to deliver via text, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: At this point, you want to check in with her

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Speaker 3: I mean, are you okay, Kevin?

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Speaker 2: She was being sarcastic with you there. Her parents aren't dead.

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Speaker 3: All right, Kevin?

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Speaker 6: I think he stood in front of the microwave too

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Speaker 6: many times.

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Speaker 2: We're never having two artists on the same call ever. Again,

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Speaker 2: this is too messy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin, you need a date an accountant.

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Speaker 5: Jeffrey in the morning, and that whole call really symbolizes

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Speaker 5: the state of dating today.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's that bad?

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Speaker 5: The degree of petting this where you just can't let

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Speaker 5: mistake will ever go unpunished in the dating world.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, that is a bleak outlook, jeff I thought

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Speaker 5: She completely forgot about the date and then tried to

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Speaker 3: D is.

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Speaker 1: I think that's so understandable to forget, like she actually

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Speaker 1: put effort into still and then she made it worse. Yeah, yeah, gasp.

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Speaker 4: But for me, I'd be like, oh, if I'm not important,

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Speaker 4: if you remember our first date. If you're not excited

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Speaker 2: It's showing up an hour late, really putting in a

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think it's forgivable to forget a date,

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Speaker 1: it down, how do you remember. I think that she

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Speaker 1: could have just been honest. But for that there's.

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Speaker 5: Another theoretical out there that you just can't work with anymore.

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Speaker 2: Any great, but it didn't happen. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: If this doesn't make you feel optimistic about love, what will?

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Speaker 1: Mosaics were pretty uplifting, that for.

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Speaker 2: Sure field inspired.

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Speaker 5: So make sure to go find our podcast, Brooke and

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Speaker 5: Jeffrey in the Morning Home of the Second Date Update

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Speaker 5: on Apple, iHeart, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts

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