WEBVTT - #618 Packers Unscripted: Wild and wacky, but a win

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner in crime, West Hodkuwitz. Were coming to

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<v Speaker 1>you here from our studios at Lambeau Field and West.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers are back from Cincinnati, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they're sad that they won't be going back again for

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<v Speaker 1>another eight years. The way the games in that stadium go,

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? The Packers prevailed twenty two in overtime,

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<v Speaker 1>improved to four and one on the season, but it

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<v Speaker 1>took if my math is correct, well, I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try to do it all somewhere around two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yards worth of missed field goals um in uh in

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<v Speaker 1>the final two minutes of regulation and overtime before Mason

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<v Speaker 1>Crosby puts one through and the Packers escaped with one

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<v Speaker 1>of the wildest, craziest most buses are Packers games that

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<v Speaker 1>I can recall in sometimes. Yeah, I was actually after

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<v Speaker 1>the game. I was walking We obviously are here with

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<v Speaker 1>the COVID restrictions, yet we're covering the game from Lambeau

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<v Speaker 1>But I was walking down the hallway with my boss

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<v Speaker 1>Duke Barbara are manager of digital, and I said to him, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been covering the team now. This is

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<v Speaker 1>my tenth season on a full time basis covering the team.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's been a lot of these moments. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>there was Detroit with the hail Mary. You know, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of crazy things have happened over the last ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's anything quite like this when you

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<v Speaker 1>break it down, where you know there's five, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>potential game altering type field goals missed. I think Elias

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<v Speaker 1>had that stat that that's a record of some kind

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<v Speaker 1>since the merger. There's never been anything like that in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth the fourth quarter, in overtime, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three hours and twenty two minutes of just excruciating football

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of regards for both teams, and to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to find a way that There was a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that said an insider inbox, and no disrespect to him,

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<v Speaker 1>but one of the things he said is like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been a game that I would end

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<v Speaker 1>up tied. I would have said, that's fair. And my

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<v Speaker 1>retort to that was the fact that it wasn't. That's football.

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<v Speaker 1>There's going to be imperfections. You can only play what's

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<v Speaker 1>in front of you. As what Matt Lafleur said afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>there are no beauty points for any of us. You

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<v Speaker 1>just go to win the football game. And the fact

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<v Speaker 1>of the matter is, despite you know, the the issues

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<v Speaker 1>there with the red zone defense, despite the fact Mason

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<v Speaker 1>missed some kicks, at the end of the day, the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers found a way to win that game. And the

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<v Speaker 1>good teams do, Mike, And the fact of the matter

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<v Speaker 1>is the Green Packers are four and one and they

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<v Speaker 1>were able to avoid uh, you know, two real game

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<v Speaker 1>teams in the Pittsburgh Steelers and Cincinnati Bengals, uncommon opponents

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to get there. Yeah. Well, in the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom line for Mason Crosby is he was able to

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<v Speaker 1>He was able to earn that shot at redemption, if

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<v Speaker 1>arne is the right word, by his countenance, essentially his face,

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<v Speaker 1>because Matt Lafleur went over to him after the three

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<v Speaker 1>misses and the Packers are in position for a forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine yard or there with two minutes left and overtime

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<v Speaker 1>went over to him and said, hey, what do you think.

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<v Speaker 1>And Crosby's response was I got this and La Fleur said,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see any I didn't see any flinch in him.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see any um, you know, hesitation, any doubt

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<v Speaker 1>whatsoever in his in his demeanor, in his countenance. And

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<v Speaker 1>so he went with his veteran kicker there. When you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fourth and inches. It would have been an easy call,

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of respects to just say, hey, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>our kickers missed three field goals, We're gonna go for

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<v Speaker 1>the first down, try to get closer, maybe get a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the case might be. Because certainly, forty nine yards,

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<v Speaker 1>even if Mason Crosby has made twenty five field goals

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<v Speaker 1>in a row or twenty seven was his streak before

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<v Speaker 1>it ended, forty nine yards is no gimme for anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in this league. But they Lafleur decided to go with

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<v Speaker 1>to go with Crosby, and UH, and he comes through

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<v Speaker 1>for this team, and UH and a big, big win

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<v Speaker 1>because the with the win, the Acker state in sole

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<v Speaker 1>possession of first place in the NFC North at four

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<v Speaker 1>and one, the Chicago Bears, this week's opponent, right on

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<v Speaker 1>their heels at three and two, and UM. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>getting back to what you said earlier, I I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember there. There are always games where a game winning

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity might be missed here, or they're even back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth once each way to a certain extent. But for

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<v Speaker 1>it to go back and forth that many times with

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<v Speaker 1>with essentially the game on the line, um, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if we'll ever see anything like that. No, And

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<v Speaker 1>and just to make one quick point about Mason Crosby,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was a frustrating game. I know Mason be

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<v Speaker 1>the first I'll tell you that's not one he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be putting in the you know, the archives there

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<v Speaker 1>to remember and you know, show all the kids. But

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<v Speaker 1>there is a lesson to be learned with that. And

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I liked, you know, I give a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of credit to Mike McCarthy. In two thousand and eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>things were not going well in Detroit, but he made

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<v Speaker 1>sure to give Mason that last field goal I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a forty one yard or against the Allions

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<v Speaker 1>after he missed what four field goals four or five?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was four field goals in an extra

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<v Speaker 1>point that day that this this particular day in Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>was three field goals in the net. Yeah. And I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Mike wanted to give him that opportunity, even

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<v Speaker 1>though that one wasn't The game was sort of out

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<v Speaker 1>of hand at that point, but but one to give

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<v Speaker 1>him that one last opportunity. I remember Aaron Rodgers patting

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<v Speaker 1>him on the back and the fact that he went

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<v Speaker 1>on this remarkable run. Ever since then, you know, goes

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<v Speaker 1>the entire season, resets the franchise record at on extra

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<v Speaker 1>point attempts. This game, in so many ways reminded me

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<v Speaker 1>of that, because now the outcome was, you know, up

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<v Speaker 1>in the balance, they're trying to figure out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to win this game. But you know Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Lafleur having confidence in his kicker, the kicker that for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, has made of his field goals during

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<v Speaker 1>Floor's time in Green Bay. You know Aaron Jones going

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<v Speaker 1>up to him and tell him that he loves him

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<v Speaker 1>before that kick. I mean, the guys, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's been an eight time team captain. That locker

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<v Speaker 1>room understands what he provides to this team in the

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<v Speaker 1>way in which he provides it. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fan bases, Mike, and we saw it in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different NFL cities this weekend that every time

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<v Speaker 1>their kicker goes out on the field, you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen. Mason Crosby, for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>with the exception of one game every two or three years,

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<v Speaker 1>is automatic in a lot of cases. That is what

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<v Speaker 1>stood out to me the most. And how that team

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<v Speaker 1>rallied around him, the fact that they were able to

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<v Speaker 1>get that team victory. We weren't there and since you

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<v Speaker 1>to hear it, but you know all the reporters talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the loud ruckus in the Packers locker room that

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<v Speaker 1>was adjacent to the media auditorium, the visiting meeting media room.

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<v Speaker 1>That tells you everything you need to know. And the

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<v Speaker 1>fact is they have an opportunity now to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>continue this four game winning streak and really find that

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<v Speaker 1>cohesive unit that that ultimately, you know, makes you a

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<v Speaker 1>winning type championship club. Yeah. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Packers fans after a game like that, all the emotions

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<v Speaker 1>and back and forth and and the roller coaster of

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<v Speaker 1>it all, if Packers fans are sitting back trying to like,

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<v Speaker 1>how am I supposed to feel about my team? Right? Like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how how do you come out of a win like

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<v Speaker 1>that feeling good? About your team. Well, for me, in

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<v Speaker 1>looking at this game and and how it unfolded, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to feel good about where this Packers team is,

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at all of the big time plays,

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<v Speaker 1>aside from the missed kicks obviously that were made in

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<v Speaker 1>crunch time to give the Packers all these opportunities to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you're talking about Aaron Jones ripping off a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>seven yard run with three minutes left in the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>another Aaron Rodgers to Davante Adams in the final half

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<v Speaker 1>minute of regulation, carbon copy of what happened in San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco to put the ball in position for a game

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<v Speaker 1>winning kick. Deveandre Campbell getting an interception on the first

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<v Speaker 1>play of overtime, setting up for you know, another possible

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<v Speaker 1>and huge play by Campbell, who's who's had such a

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<v Speaker 1>big impact on this defense. And then on the final

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<v Speaker 1>drive with that did turn out to be the game winner,

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<v Speaker 1>the screen pass to Marcedes Lewis that goes for twenty yards,

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<v Speaker 1>and then after a sack on third and sixteen, the

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen yard passed. Randall I mean the number the number

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<v Speaker 1>of clutch plays on both sides of the ball in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of respects that that the Packers made in

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<v Speaker 1>this game. That's what you hang your hat on coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of here. And and you just Mason Crosby is

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<v Speaker 1>going to deal with what he has to deal with,

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<v Speaker 1>and and the whole field goal operation, because Matt Lafleur

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<v Speaker 1>did talk about that as well, that there are issues

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<v Speaker 1>with the operation that need to be cleaned up to

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<v Speaker 1>make things easier on everybody. But if you take that

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<v Speaker 1>part out of it and you look at you look

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<v Speaker 1>at what this team did in crunch time with the

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<v Speaker 1>game on the line, there's a lot to like there.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start with offense because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about with the defense. But first

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<v Speaker 1>and foremost, Mike, it hit me in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>that second quarter when Davonte Adams has a hundred yards

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<v Speaker 1>receiving a loan in that fifteen minute block, hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen yards in the first half on six catches with

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<v Speaker 1>the touchdown off of fade that appeared to be a

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<v Speaker 1>check that I mean, just that's Aaron Rodgers and Davante

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<v Speaker 1>Adams operating on a different level one on one on

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<v Speaker 1>the bound. But the thing that stands out to me

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<v Speaker 1>the most right now is Davante Adams has been on

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<v Speaker 1>the come up for a number of years, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>been doing this since two thousand sixteen, for five years. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>this this prime has been but right now, in my

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<v Speaker 1>for my money, this is the best receiver in football

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<v Speaker 1>because this was the first game to my eye where

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<v Speaker 1>it did not matter what the Cincinnati Bengals did. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Shudobi A. Woozier is a fantastic cornerback, has been success

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<v Speaker 1>for a number of years. As a reason why Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>brought him in. They made that adjustment early on. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought they did a really good job against him in

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<v Speaker 1>the first quarter, but that second quarter proved that when

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<v Speaker 1>you are smart with how you utilize him and moving

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<v Speaker 1>Davante around, he's so hard to cover. And if anybody

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<v Speaker 1>asked me West Hodkowitz, can you give me a play

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<v Speaker 1>that sums up Davante Adams. You can talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>laid hands and in Philadelphia can talk about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the boundary passes, but watching him beat the entire secondary

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<v Speaker 1>over the top down the middle of the field for

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty nine yard ball which Aaron Rodgers just places perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can't say enough about where that ball

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<v Speaker 1>was thrown into. That's Davante Adams, four time Pro Bowler,

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<v Speaker 1>All Pro Receiver nearly unanimous a year ago. This guy

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<v Speaker 1>has almost six hundred receiving yards in five games. Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't even need to talk about the seventeen games

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<v Speaker 1>right now in a sixteen game season. He's having a

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<v Speaker 1>historic type season. Yeah, that you mentioned the deep bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>He as as that ball is coming down to rest

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<v Speaker 1>in his arms, He's got three Cincinnati Bengals chasing. He's behind,

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<v Speaker 1>He's behind everybody. And this is after he's already at

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<v Speaker 1>that point got a hundred and twenty roughly hundred twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five yards receiving in the game already. They're a monster

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<v Speaker 1>game by Davante Adams. Eleven catches, two hundred and six yards,

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<v Speaker 1>first two hundred yard receiving game of his career, first

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred yard receiving game by a Packers receiver since

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<v Speaker 1>Jordy Nelson in it has been seven years. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>an absolutely monster game. And the other part with this

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<v Speaker 1>offense too, for the second game in a row, in

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<v Speaker 1>all the ways that the Packers are utilizing these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Jones, A J. Dillon, the one two punch in

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<v Speaker 1>the backfield, combining for almost two yards from scrimmage two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks in a row. Now they've been at that. Plus

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<v Speaker 1>when you combine all their rushing and receiving yards this

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<v Speaker 1>offense with that big three Jones, Dillon, and Adams, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're accounting for a heck of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>production and defenses are having a hard time stop in it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and A J. Dillon watching how far he's come, um

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<v Speaker 1>and it is, you know, was talking about it. He

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<v Speaker 1>came in last year. He didn't catch the ball a

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<v Speaker 1>lot at BC, but they felt like he was a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good pass catcher. I still think he's taken it

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<v Speaker 1>to a different level this year. And you and I

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<v Speaker 1>were discussing some of those plays that he made against

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals. Those weren't just sitting down waiting for the

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<v Speaker 1>check down throw. They were him running routes. They were

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<v Speaker 1>catching balls and stride, no wasted motion for him to

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<v Speaker 1>have forty nine yards, which was a new you're high

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<v Speaker 1>for him in the NFL. On on receiving yards, being

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<v Speaker 1>able to pound the ball north and south the way

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<v Speaker 1>he does, and more than anything else, the more I

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<v Speaker 1>watch him now, when you understand that the outside zone

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers want to run. You start to see why

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Goodakins in his scouting department, thought that this guy

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<v Speaker 1>is a really good fit for it. The way he

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<v Speaker 1>hits his cutbacks are is it's in stride, it's fluid.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not just a bruising type running back. There's there.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you when when you when you see

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<v Speaker 1>him run to the go to the outside on that

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<v Speaker 1>outside zone and then make the cut. There's a combination

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<v Speaker 1>of patients with explosiveness that you and that that's the

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<v Speaker 1>smoothness that you talk about where it looks it looks effortless,

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<v Speaker 1>but but there's there's a patience to it with the

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<v Speaker 1>timing and then the burst is there when as they say,

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<v Speaker 1>you stick your foot in the ground and go and

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<v Speaker 1>where where this offense can go with with those three

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<v Speaker 1>with Dylan Joe, I mean when Matt Lafleur after the game,

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<v Speaker 1>a game that the offense puts up four hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six yards, Now, yes, they left a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>points out there that the Packers, they know they should

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<v Speaker 1>have scored more points. Cincinnati's defense in the red zone

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<v Speaker 1>gave them all kinds of trouble so you credit the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals for that, but the Packers they're they're gonna they

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<v Speaker 1>need to get there. Their red zone offense figured out

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<v Speaker 1>because it was so good last year, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>the capability is there. But after an offensive game like that,

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<v Speaker 1>with all the production, and when Matt Lafleur saying, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could have gotten the ball to a

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<v Speaker 1>j Dillon Moore, that that that that tells you something

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<v Speaker 1>about about what the Packers have at their disposal. And

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<v Speaker 1>and for Aaron Jones to run the way he did

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<v Speaker 1>in this game too, Mike, how long have I been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this? He's gaining every yard that's available, He's

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<v Speaker 1>finding ways to extend places, but he just didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>that big home run. Well, here's an opportunity where you

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<v Speaker 1>have von Bell collapsing. There's a gap there, but Bell's

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<v Speaker 1>occupying it with the kind of blitz almost it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like that he's doing from the far safety. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to make him miss. And as Aaron Jones said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with with his footwork, his timing, he felt

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<v Speaker 1>calm and and he'd be able to get that step.

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<v Speaker 1>With the room he has the operate to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get up field. You saw him lay a heck

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<v Speaker 1>of a stiff arm at the end of that play too.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be a really good one too. And I

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<v Speaker 1>give Jamal Williams a fantastic back. He's having a good

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<v Speaker 1>season right now with with the Detroit Lions. But it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a slight on Jamal Williams that they moved on

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<v Speaker 1>from him. It was more about, Okay, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy we drafted a year ago, with two guys both

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<v Speaker 1>coming up on the final year of their contracts and

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<v Speaker 1>A J. Dillon, we feel like he's a good fit.

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<v Speaker 1>And right now Dylan is proving the Packers right. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want, I do want to shift gears to the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>had talked last week about the pack is having to

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<v Speaker 1>adjust to their new reality. They've been dealing for multiple

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<v Speaker 1>weeks without Zadarius Smith. Now, this was the first game

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<v Speaker 1>without jayear Alexander both of those second team All Pro

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<v Speaker 1>defenders out indefinitely. At this point, the Packers don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if or when either will be back. And I thought

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half of this game, I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay Packers defense really came to play. And unfortunately, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>a really really good half of defensive football against a young,

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<v Speaker 1>up and coming franchise quarterback. Was was kind of undone

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<v Speaker 1>by by just the big breakdown at the end there

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<v Speaker 1>and in the final men of the first half in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventy yard touchdown pass. But UM Matt Lafleur even

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<v Speaker 1>said on Monday he thought this was the Packers best

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<v Speaker 1>defensive performance of the season. Yes, there is still plenty

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<v Speaker 1>to work on, but we're continuing to see this defense

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<v Speaker 1>makes strides there. There there are things to show up,

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<v Speaker 1>there are things they've got it, you know, the red zone,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk about that too. But this defense, this

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<v Speaker 1>defense is making progress every week. You're seeing it, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing it now as they're adjusting without some of

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<v Speaker 1>their best players. Yeah, and the first thing first, before

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about some of those breakdowns. The reason why

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<v Speaker 1>the Green Bay Packers were able to ultimately have that

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<v Speaker 1>big second quarter that they did was because of how

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<v Speaker 1>the defense played in the first quarter. Offense did not

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<v Speaker 1>get off to a fast start. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a grind there until they started to kind of find

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<v Speaker 1>their rhythm a little bit. It was the defense forcing

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati into multiple three and outs. Even the scoring drive

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<v Speaker 1>that they had, they went three and out or three

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<v Speaker 1>and fourth and whatever, and then they converted the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>down to ultimately end up getting down the field, but

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<v Speaker 1>they originally went three plays and fourth down. That right there,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is huge in the long run in the

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<v Speaker 1>big picture, because if you give Aaron Rodgers a clean

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<v Speaker 1>slate in a first quarter, he's either a gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do a lot of damage to the opposing

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<v Speaker 1>defense or be it's gonna allow the offense time to

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<v Speaker 1>get in sync. That's what the defense provided in this matchup.

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<v Speaker 1>They're also doing less or they're doing more with less.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, they're doing less. They're doing more with less.

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<v Speaker 1>When you don't have Zadarius Smith, it's on the whole

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<v Speaker 1>group to be able to pick up that weight. You

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<v Speaker 1>see Rashan Gary now playing that rover position, Mike, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the stops they had was Gary collapsing on the

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<v Speaker 1>center being able to get the stop, I believe on

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<v Speaker 1>third down or at least to set up that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>You're seeing guys like Dean Lowry making contributions. Kenny Clark

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<v Speaker 1>has been an absolute game record. He's a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at a statue, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>see that he's playing at a Pro Bowl level. But

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<v Speaker 1>he absolutely is. And unfortunately for Kenny, he is such

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<v Speaker 1>a darn good run stopper that, yeah, it makes it

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<v Speaker 1>difficult at times to be able to keep him in

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<v Speaker 1>the past flow because you need to have with what

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<v Speaker 1>he's providing up front. The Packers strong start against the

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<v Speaker 1>run so far, a lot of that has been a

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<v Speaker 1>contribution of Kenny Clark. But Mike dev Andre Campbell coming

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<v Speaker 1>into this defense on June six, I believe it was

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<v Speaker 1>June sixth Gosh, I was so competent to well, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>transaction wire June nine. It was probably June nine, darn it, no,

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<v Speaker 1>but him coming into this defense on June nine, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a guy Mike that win for the better part

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<v Speaker 1>of three months without a job. This is not a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's been injured. This is not a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a starter. Dvandre Campbell was right there for the

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<v Speaker 1>National Football League. And when the Arizona Cardinals, who might

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<v Speaker 1>be as deep at the linebacker position as any in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League right now, decided to move on

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<v Speaker 1>from Campbell, I cannot believe there wasn't a long line

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<v Speaker 1>of teams wanting to pick this guy up. Six ft

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<v Speaker 1>three two pounds, runs in the four fives, can cover

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<v Speaker 1>sideline to sideline, and is a willing guy to go

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<v Speaker 1>after the posing running back. Davandre Campbell's a difference maker

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<v Speaker 1>right now. And for him to be able to give

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<v Speaker 1>this contribution after being here for basically three o t

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<v Speaker 1>A practices at the end of the off season program

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievable what he's been able to add to this defense. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you saw. I believe it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe it was a one on one interview that he

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<v Speaker 1>did within the last couple of weeks with Larry McCarron,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a line from Campbell that really stood

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<v Speaker 1>out where he basically said you know where I've been before,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been the robin to somebody's batman, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And well, this guy is batman on this Packers defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he is in the middle of everything. He's

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<v Speaker 1>wearing the communication helmet, he is um, he is making

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<v Speaker 1>plays against the run and the pass on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just a presence in the middle of the field

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<v Speaker 1>every time he is out there. And he did leave

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<v Speaker 1>the game in Cincinnati briefly. Fortunately then was able to

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<v Speaker 1>come back and it was not a it was not

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<v Speaker 1>a game ending injury. Um, you can't you can't help

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<v Speaker 1>but be impressed. I mean the whole for For as

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<v Speaker 1>much as the salary cap crunch, you know, had an

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<v Speaker 1>impact on the Packers and how they were putting together

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<v Speaker 1>their roster, this is one of the benefits of it

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<v Speaker 1>because because this guy couldn't get the type of contract

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<v Speaker 1>he was looking for, he waits until the middle of June,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Packers are the one out there making him

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<v Speaker 1>an offer. So he takes it and comes in and

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's completely changed the landscape of how this defense

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<v Speaker 1>looks now. The way things the way things unfolded. The

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<v Speaker 1>play at the end of the first half was extremely unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a big miscommunication on defense with regard to

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<v Speaker 1>the front and the pass rush. And even with all that,

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<v Speaker 1>Darnell Savage still made an incredibly athletic play to where

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<v Speaker 1>he was in position to bat that pass down and

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<v Speaker 1>and prevent uh prevent that disaster from happening. But the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals get the seventy yard touchdown. Other the other than

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<v Speaker 1>that one play, the defense did exactly what it needed

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<v Speaker 1>to in this game West in terms of preventing the

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<v Speaker 1>explosive plays. I had talked about that last week with

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<v Speaker 1>this Bengals offense, don't let them get the big chunks

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<v Speaker 1>of yardage, and the Packers didn't. The Packers didn't allow that.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Stokes had a really solid game. Kevin King played

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<v Speaker 1>a solid game until he went out with an injury.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently was was playing with one arm essentially for a

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<v Speaker 1>while due to a shoulder injury. According to mattel Fleur,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we mentioned Campbell, the road to the road,

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<v Speaker 1>the rotating players on the defensive front, But then it's

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<v Speaker 1>if this defense starts getting a stop, even just one

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<v Speaker 1>red zone, stop a game if you can, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can get to that point, everything is gonna is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna take another step and things are gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>to look different. This defense hasn't had any red zone

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<v Speaker 1>stops yet this year. That's what they have to work on,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you're not going to give up the explosive plays,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that whole bend but don't but don't break

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, you start forcing field goals at the

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen yard line, at the eight yard line, everything everything

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<v Speaker 1>else statistically, statistically, with the defense starts to come around,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the last, the last piece in my mind that

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<v Speaker 1>they need to put together, other than obviously getting healthy

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully getting some of these guys back. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a cat and most game because you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be blitzing in those situations a lot once you

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<v Speaker 1>get into the inside the twenty, because you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have your full complement of safety's, cornerbacks and obviously linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to cover the space because you're covering

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<v Speaker 1>less field, so you're able to kind of be able to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, manage that space, but you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to find ways to get pressure. Um this game, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just some underneath passes that kind of burnt them and

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<v Speaker 1>then they were able to get in some really advantageous

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<v Speaker 1>goal to goals situations inside the five. Have to find

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<v Speaker 1>answers for that. But to get back to the play

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<v Speaker 1>to chase, obviously there was some some miskey and communication

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<v Speaker 1>there upfront. Guys pretty much other than Kenny Clark, it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like everybody just starts spying Burrow like it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like guys pulled off. But I said this too, when

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<v Speaker 1>Savage came down and made that tackle on Burrow that

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being able to force a you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>punt I believe, or was that on fourth down? That

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<v Speaker 1>was whatever it was. Yeah, the way he's playing with

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<v Speaker 1>his speed this season is what is impressing me the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Darnel Savage was the highest drafted defensive back in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand, not the highest drafted safety, highest drafted defensive back.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a guy that climbed the polls, climbed the

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<v Speaker 1>rankings in the pre draft process after he ran a

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<v Speaker 1>four three six at the combine four three six at

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<v Speaker 1>the safety position. With the way that he has ability

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<v Speaker 1>to hit and to play the ball, that's golden. And

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<v Speaker 1>he said it after the game, those type of plays

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna end up being interceptions for him as he learns,

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<v Speaker 1>as he develops, he's gonna want that one back. But

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he even got close to making that

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<v Speaker 1>play on what was really a broken play for the defense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly athletic play by him, Incredibly athletic play. And Chase,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is just a different type of receiver as

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<v Speaker 1>we know. So you have to live and learn overall.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are going to be kind of the free plays.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to happen every once in a while. You

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<v Speaker 1>just have to find a way to manage. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone defense that if the Packers can clamp that down,

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<v Speaker 1>if they can get their gold Song packages going, that's

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<v Speaker 1>really the last piece I think. Otherwise they've overcome the injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>they found ways to take away the ball. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth straight game the Packers generated takeaway defensively, first

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<v Speaker 1>time that's happened since two thousand seventeen. Yeah, speaking of safeties,

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<v Speaker 1>heck of an interception by Adrian Amos there on the

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<v Speaker 1>opening drive of the third quarter, when because of the

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown late in the second quarter, the Bengals had a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to take the lead. Amos takes it away with

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<v Speaker 1>a great pick and then you know, Devandre Campbell doing

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<v Speaker 1>his job in the overtime to be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>that interception, in which a lot of cases that's the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the ball game there. The defense is doing

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<v Speaker 1>what they have to do, and the hope is you

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<v Speaker 1>stem this tide. You're able to maybe get back Jay

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<v Speaker 1>are here in a couple of weeks, knock on wood,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how things heal with the shoulder. This is

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<v Speaker 1>this is a huge stretch for them, and those safeties

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Amos and Savage their pivotal right now because if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna end up, you know, we'll see what happens

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<v Speaker 1>with Kevin King. You gotta go at least two more

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<v Speaker 1>games without Jaire Alexander, possibly more. Those safety's man are

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<v Speaker 1>going to really be the catalyst here for the secondary

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<v Speaker 1>if they got to go with all their two big guys, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no question about it. Well, it is Packers Bears week.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be first place in the NFC North on

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<v Speaker 1>the line, and we will definitely get to all of

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<v Speaker 1>that in our next episode, but we do have to go.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers

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<v Speaker 1>on Script and be sure to follow all of our

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<v Speaker 1>packers dot com. For West, I'm Mike. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in, everybody. We'll see you next time. Yeah,