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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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Speaker 1: by my partner in crime, West Hodkuwitz. Were coming to

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Speaker 1: you here from our studios at Lambeau Field and West.

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Speaker 1: The Packers are back from Cincinnati, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're sad that they won't be going back again for

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Speaker 1: another eight years. The way the games in that stadium go,

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? The Packers prevailed twenty two in overtime,

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Speaker 1: improved to four and one on the season, but it

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Speaker 1: took if my math is correct, well, I'm not even

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Speaker 1: gonna try to do it all somewhere around two hundred

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Speaker 1: yards worth of missed field goals um in uh in

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Speaker 1: the final two minutes of regulation and overtime before Mason

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Speaker 1: Crosby puts one through and the Packers escaped with one

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Speaker 1: of the wildest, craziest most buses are Packers games that

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Speaker 1: I can recall in sometimes. Yeah, I was actually after

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Speaker 1: the game. I was walking We obviously are here with

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Speaker 1: the COVID restrictions, yet we're covering the game from Lambeau

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Speaker 1: But I was walking down the hallway with my boss

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Speaker 1: Duke Barbara are manager of digital, and I said to him, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've been covering the team now. This is

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Speaker 1: my tenth season on a full time basis covering the team.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's been a lot of these moments. Obviously

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Speaker 1: there was Detroit with the hail Mary. You know, a

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Speaker 1: lot of crazy things have happened over the last ten years.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything quite like this when you

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Speaker 1: break it down, where you know there's five, you know,

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Speaker 1: potential game altering type field goals missed. I think Elias

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Speaker 1: had that stat that that's a record of some kind

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Speaker 1: since the merger. There's never been anything like that in

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Speaker 1: the fourth the fourth quarter, in overtime, but you know,

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Speaker 1: three hours and twenty two minutes of just excruciating football

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Speaker 1: in a lot of regards for both teams, and to

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Speaker 1: be able to find a way that There was a

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Speaker 1: guy that said an insider inbox, and no disrespect to him,

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Speaker 1: but one of the things he said is like, well,

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Speaker 1: that would have been a game that I would end

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Speaker 1: up tied. I would have said, that's fair. And my

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Speaker 1: retort to that was the fact that it wasn't. That's football.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be imperfections. You can only play what's

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Speaker 1: in front of you. As what Matt Lafleur said afterwards,

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Speaker 1: there are no beauty points for any of us. You

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Speaker 1: just go to win the football game. And the fact

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Speaker 1: of the matter is, despite you know, the the issues

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Speaker 1: there with the red zone defense, despite the fact Mason

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Speaker 1: missed some kicks, at the end of the day, the

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Speaker 1: Packers found a way to win that game. And the

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Speaker 1: good teams do, Mike, And the fact of the matter

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Speaker 1: is the Green Packers are four and one and they

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Speaker 1: were able to avoid uh, you know, two real game

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Speaker 1: teams in the Pittsburgh Steelers and Cincinnati Bengals, uncommon opponents

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Speaker 1: to be able to get there. Yeah. Well, in the

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Speaker 1: bottom line for Mason Crosby is he was able to

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Speaker 1: He was able to earn that shot at redemption, if

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Speaker 1: arne is the right word, by his countenance, essentially his face,

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Speaker 1: because Matt Lafleur went over to him after the three

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Speaker 1: misses and the Packers are in position for a forty

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Speaker 1: went over to him and said, hey, what do you think.

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Speaker 1: And Crosby's response was I got this and La Fleur said,

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Speaker 1: I didn't see any I didn't see any flinch in him.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see any um, you know, hesitation, any doubt

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Speaker 1: so he went with his veteran kicker there. When you know,

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Speaker 1: fourth and inches. It would have been an easy call,

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Speaker 1: in a lot of respects to just say, hey, okay,

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Speaker 1: our kickers missed three field goals, We're gonna go for

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Speaker 1: whatever the case might be. Because certainly, forty nine yards,

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Speaker 1: even if Mason Crosby has made twenty five field goals

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Speaker 1: it ended, forty nine yards is no gimme for anybody

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Speaker 1: in this league. But they Lafleur decided to go with

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Speaker 1: to go with Crosby, and UH, and he comes through

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Speaker 1: for this team, and UH and a big, big win

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Speaker 1: because the with the win, the Acker state in sole

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Speaker 1: their heels at three and two, and UM. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: remember there. There are always games where a game winning

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Speaker 1: because it was a frustrating game. I know Mason be

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Speaker 1: to be putting in the you know, the archives there

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Speaker 1: one thing I liked, you know, I give a lot

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Speaker 1: of credit to Mike McCarthy. In two thousand and eighteen,

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Speaker 1: things were not going well in Detroit, but he made

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Speaker 1: sure to give Mason that last field goal I think

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Speaker 1: it was a forty one yard or against the Allions

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Speaker 1: after he missed what four field goals four or five?

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Speaker 1: I think it was four field goals in an extra

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Speaker 1: point that day that this this particular day in Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: though that one wasn't The game was sort of out

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Speaker 1: him that one last opportunity. I remember Aaron Rodgers patting

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Speaker 1: him on the back and the fact that he went

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Speaker 1: on this remarkable run. Ever since then, you know, goes

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Speaker 1: the entire season, resets the franchise record at on extra

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Speaker 1: point attempts. This game, in so many ways reminded me

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Speaker 1: who's going to win this game. But you know Matt

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Speaker 1: Lafleur having confidence in his kicker, the kicker that for

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Speaker 1: the most part, has made of his field goals during

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Speaker 1: Floor's time in Green Bay. You know Aaron Jones going

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Speaker 1: before that kick. I mean, the guys, this is a

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Speaker 1: guy who's been an eight time team captain. That locker

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Speaker 1: way in which he provides it. There are a lot

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Speaker 1: of fan bases, Mike, and we saw it in a

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen. Mason Crosby, for the most part,

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Speaker 1: to hear it, but you know all the reporters talking

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Speaker 1: was adjacent to the media auditorium, the visiting meeting media room.

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Speaker 1: That tells you everything you need to know. And the

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Speaker 1: fact is they have an opportunity now to kind of

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Speaker 1: continue this four game winning streak and really find that

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Speaker 1: cohesive unit that that ultimately, you know, makes you a

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Speaker 1: Packers fans after a game like that, all the emotions

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Speaker 1: it all, if Packers fans are sitting back trying to like,

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Speaker 1: how am I supposed to feel about my team? Right? Like, like,

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Speaker 1: how how do you come out of a win like

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Speaker 1: looking at this game and and how it unfolded, if

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Speaker 1: take a look at all of the big time plays,

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Speaker 1: aside from the missed kicks obviously that were made in

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Speaker 1: Whether you're talking about Aaron Jones ripping off a fifty

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Speaker 1: minute of regulation, carbon copy of what happened in San

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Speaker 1: and huge play by Campbell, who's who's had such a

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Speaker 1: and foremost, Mike, it hit me in the middle of

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Speaker 1: it did not matter what the Cincinnati Bengals did. You know,

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Speaker 1: Shudobi A. Woozier is a fantastic cornerback, has been success

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Speaker 1: for a number of years. As a reason why Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: asked me West Hodkowitz, can you give me a play

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Speaker 1: that sums up Davante Adams. You can talk about the

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Speaker 1: the boundary passes, but watching him beat the entire secondary

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Speaker 1: All Pro Receiver nearly unanimous a year ago. This guy

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Speaker 1: has almost six hundred receiving yards in five games. Mike,

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Speaker 1: we don't even need to talk about the seventeen games

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Speaker 1: right now in a sixteen game season. He's having a

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Speaker 1: historic type season. Yeah, that you mentioned the deep bomb.

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Speaker 1: to look different. This defense hasn't had any red zone

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Speaker 1: stops yet this year. That's what they have to work on,

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Speaker 1: because if you're not going to give up the explosive plays,

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Speaker 1: you know that whole bend but don't but don't break

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Speaker 1: kind of thing, you start forcing field goals at the

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Speaker 1: fifteen yard line, at the eight yard line, everything everything

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Speaker 1: else statistically, statistically, with the defense starts to come around,

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Speaker 1: that's the last, the last piece in my mind that

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Speaker 1: they need to put together, other than obviously getting healthy

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Speaker 1: and hopefully getting some of these guys back. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: such a cat and most game because you don't want

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Speaker 1: to be blitzing in those situations a lot once you

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Speaker 1: get into the inside the twenty, because you want to

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Speaker 1: have your full complement of safety's, cornerbacks and obviously linebackers

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Speaker 1: to be able to cover the space because you're covering

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Speaker 1: less field, so you're able to kind of be able to,

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Speaker 1: you know, manage that space, but you have to be

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Speaker 1: able to find ways to get pressure. Um this game, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just some underneath passes that kind of burnt them and

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Speaker 1: then they were able to get in some really advantageous

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Speaker 1: goal to goals situations inside the five. Have to find

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Speaker 1: answers for that. But to get back to the play

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Speaker 1: to chase, obviously there was some some miskey and communication

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Speaker 1: there upfront. Guys pretty much other than Kenny Clark, it

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Speaker 1: looked like everybody just starts spying Burrow like it wasn't

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Speaker 1: like guys pulled off. But I said this too, when

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Speaker 1: Savage came down and made that tackle on Burrow that

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Speaker 1: ended up being able to force a you know, a

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Speaker 1: punt I believe, or was that on fourth down? That

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Speaker 1: was whatever it was. Yeah, the way he's playing with

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Speaker 1: his speed this season is what is impressing me the most.

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Speaker 1: Mike Darnel Savage was the highest drafted defensive back in

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Speaker 1: two thousand, not the highest drafted safety, highest drafted defensive back.

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Speaker 1: This is a guy that climbed the polls, climbed the

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Speaker 1: rankings in the pre draft process after he ran a

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Speaker 1: four three six at the combine four three six at

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Speaker 1: the safety position. With the way that he has ability

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Speaker 1: to hit and to play the ball, that's golden. And

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Speaker 1: he said it after the game, those type of plays

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Speaker 1: are gonna end up being interceptions for him as he learns,

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Speaker 1: as he develops, he's gonna want that one back. But

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Speaker 1: the fact that he even got close to making that

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Speaker 1: play on what was really a broken play for the defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: incredibly athletic play by him, Incredibly athletic play. And Chase,

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Speaker 1: you know, is just a different type of receiver as

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Speaker 1: we know. So you have to live and learn overall.

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Speaker 1: Those are going to be kind of the free plays.

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Speaker 1: They're going to happen every once in a while. You

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Speaker 1: just have to find a way to manage. It's the

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Speaker 1: red zone defense that if the Packers can clamp that down,

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Speaker 1: if they can get their gold Song packages going, that's

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Speaker 1: really the last piece I think. Otherwise they've overcome the injuries,

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Speaker 1: they found ways to take away the ball. This is

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Speaker 1: the fourth straight game the Packers generated takeaway defensively, first

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Speaker 1: time that's happened since two thousand seventeen. Yeah, speaking of safeties,

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Speaker 1: heck of an interception by Adrian Amos there on the

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Speaker 1: opening drive of the third quarter, when because of the

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Speaker 1: touchdown late in the second quarter, the Bengals had a

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Speaker 1: chance to take the lead. Amos takes it away with

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Speaker 1: a great pick and then you know, Devandre Campbell doing

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Speaker 1: his job in the overtime to be able to get

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Speaker 1: that interception, in which a lot of cases that's the

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Speaker 1: end of the ball game there. The defense is doing

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Speaker 1: what they have to do, and the hope is you

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Speaker 1: stem this tide. You're able to maybe get back Jay

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Speaker 1: are here in a couple of weeks, knock on wood,

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Speaker 1: depending on how things heal with the shoulder. This is

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Speaker 1: this is a huge stretch for them, and those safeties

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Speaker 1: Mike Amos and Savage their pivotal right now because if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna end up, you know, we'll see what happens

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Speaker 1: with Kevin King. You gotta go at least two more

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Speaker 1: games without Jaire Alexander, possibly more. Those safety's man are

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Speaker 1: going to really be the catalyst here for the secondary

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Speaker 1: if they got to go with all their two big guys, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. Well, it is Packers Bears week.

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Speaker 1: It will be first place in the NFC North on

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Speaker 1: the line, and we will definitely get to all of

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Speaker 1: that in our next episode, but we do have to go.

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Speaker 1: We'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers

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Speaker 1: on Script and be sure to follow all of our

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Speaker 1: coverage of the team We've got everything for you on

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Speaker 1: packers dot com. For West, I'm Mike. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: tuning in, everybody. We'll see you next time. Yeah,