WEBVTT - Short Stuff: History of OK

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's Chuck and Jerry's here too, standing in for day Eve,

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<v Speaker 1>and that makes this short stuff. Okay, m.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to Dave Rus and HowStuffWorks dot com and grammarly

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<v Speaker 2>for this, because we're talking about okay, which some people

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<v Speaker 2>say is one of the most versatile and one of

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest words in the English language.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I don't disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't either. I say, like more, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>okay is probably second in my vocabulary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Grammarly, we'll tell you that okay can be used in

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<v Speaker 2>myriad ways and it's a very versatile word.

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<v Speaker 3>It can be used as.

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<v Speaker 2>An adjective, Oh that's okay, Yeah, that's just okay, like

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<v Speaker 2>how was it okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be an interjection okay, okay, let's talk, or

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<v Speaker 2>someone's talking too much, okay, okay, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It can be used in the verb sense, like

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<v Speaker 3>give me an example.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy's really okaying that boat all over the lake.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's not that's not right, more like it's being

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<v Speaker 3>okay as we.

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<v Speaker 1>Speak, Oh good, yes, thank you, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Or it can be used in the noun sense you

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<v Speaker 3>want to try that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having an Okay for breakfast.

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<v Speaker 3>Nope, uh, we got the Okay, it's all good, yeh,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, so boring.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, No, it's not boring. I'm just disgusting with myself.

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<v Speaker 2>So very versatile word and the origin of okay. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even think we should go over all the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of dumb ideas people have had, because we're pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>we know where it came from, right, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>See, so yeah, we know where it came from, almost

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<v Speaker 1>certainly thanks to an etymologist named Alan Walker Reid, who

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<v Speaker 1>at some point apparently put down his insects in his

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<v Speaker 1>lab and started researching origins. I don't know why, but

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<v Speaker 1>Reid was working back in the nineteen sixties and he essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>through really hardcore, old timey pre internet research, Yeah, traced

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<v Speaker 1>back the origin of oka, the letter O and the

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<v Speaker 1>letter K and the meaning of it as we understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's got one heck of a rump slap in

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<v Speaker 1>origin if you ask me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He also had a newsletter called Stuff you Should Know

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<v Speaker 2>that ran for fifteen years, but he only put out

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<v Speaker 2>four topics because it took him so long.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it took a while. But this is the sixties.

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<v Speaker 3>Even that joke was not okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It was okay, it was okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So what he found out is the following in the

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<v Speaker 2>early nineteenth century, when printing was sort of a new

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<v Speaker 2>sort of not new, but it was cheaper to do

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<v Speaker 2>than it had been previously, and there was an explosion

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<v Speaker 2>of printing. Yeah, and one of the things that people

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<v Speaker 2>started putting out were something on the penny press, like

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<v Speaker 2>these sort of rags that were had a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of news to them, but also some opinion stuff, some jokes.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what's trending.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a little witty poem, you know, just little

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<v Speaker 2>things like that. They've kind of likens it to the

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<v Speaker 2>Internet of the eighteen thirties. And there was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of back and forth about this stuff through the editors

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<v Speaker 2>of these penny papers. I guess they would they would

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<v Speaker 2>sort of respond to one another through their own penny papers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they would trash talk one another, kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>how our old stale rivalry with John Strickland, Oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like that, right, uh huh. So there was

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<v Speaker 1>that trash talking or that joking in joking back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth between editors of these penny papers coincided with a

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<v Speaker 1>trend that Reid called a cranes in starting in the

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<v Speaker 1>summer of eighteen thirty eight. That's how good this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>research was. He pinned it down to that, starting in Boston,

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<v Speaker 1>that people started using abbreviations for everything. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>they thought that was so hilarious in eighteen thirties Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is funny, like you think you might think

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<v Speaker 2>now is so over abbreviated like this point in time,

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<v Speaker 2>with texting in the Internet, with lols and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know what half of them mean. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>and lo means lots of love, lots of love. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I thought. But the craze started back then.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's just a few examples that Dave dug up,

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<v Speaker 2>let me see, dl ec do let them come, or

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<v Speaker 2>GTDHD give the devil a due, stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that, or WYG will you go?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Will you go?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And so this started thanks to Charles Gordon Green,

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<v Speaker 1>editor of Boston's Morning Post, back in eighteen thirty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the following year, this initial language is what

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<v Speaker 1>they called it. It spread from Boston all the way

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<v Speaker 1>to New York and elsewhere. It was a jam. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a craze and people were writing about it, people

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<v Speaker 1>were using it. So you have part one of where

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<v Speaker 1>Oka came from. You have an abbreviation craze that is

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<v Speaker 1>being spreading like wildfire thanks to the penny papers that

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<v Speaker 1>you can find in any major city in the US.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's right, and we're going to take a break

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll tell you about another craze that also coincided

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<v Speaker 2>that made okay okay right after this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, now we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Driving in your truck. Want to learn a thing or

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<v Speaker 1>two from Josh Pam Chuck. It's stuff you should.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, all right, all right, So several things aligned here

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<v Speaker 2>to make okay stick. We talked about the abbreviation craze,

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<v Speaker 2>but no one is going around saying GTDHD give the

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<v Speaker 2>devil his due. Most of these fell by the wayside

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<v Speaker 2>over time. Okay did not because Okay also coincided with

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<v Speaker 2>another weird trend, which was purposefully misspelling things. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just funny, I guess. I don't know if it was

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<v Speaker 2>like a bit where you were trying to appear like

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<v Speaker 2>you were just a big dummy or what. But it

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<v Speaker 2>became a thing where people would write, and especially in

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<v Speaker 2>these these penny press papers, they would misspell things. They

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<v Speaker 2>would write an opinion piece or like a letter, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's things were purposely misspelled, and people thought it was hysterical. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you got things like, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>you had abbreviations that were based on misspellings, like KG

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<v Speaker 2>for no go, which would be obviously n O g

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<v Speaker 2>O instead of k now go, but they would still

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<v Speaker 2>say KG and people just rolled with laughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no know stood in for no N a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>so no go no use was actually ky. They spelled

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<v Speaker 1>use with the y at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what's funny is quite a few times

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<v Speaker 2>over the years people have emailed us and done s

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<v Speaker 2>Y S N by accident, and it's sort of kind

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<v Speaker 2>of right aligned with this, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some people also do s U S k oh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen that too, which makes sense. Took me years

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<v Speaker 1>to figure that one out. I always thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>fat fingered or something. But as far as our episode

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<v Speaker 1>is concerned, when OW came along, the origins of okay

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<v Speaker 1>started to blossom. Now started to sprout from the ground

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<v Speaker 1>like a seedling with just one leaf attached.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, because OW stood for all right, all being

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<v Speaker 2>spelled ol l because and write being spelled w r

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<v Speaker 2>ight because misspelling.

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<v Speaker 1>Things was hysterical, hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So are you following those people? It's a little confusing, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think again, they thought this was witty and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge trend. And finally, in eighteen thirty nine, March

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<v Speaker 1>twenty first heads Off to Alan Walker read again for

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<v Speaker 1>real pinpointed it. There was another etymologist that said he

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<v Speaker 1>read must have spent hundreds of hours digging through tons

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<v Speaker 1>and tons of physical newspapers, journals, private letters, and other documents.

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<v Speaker 1>What that man did was absolutely astounding. And that guy

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<v Speaker 1>Anatoty Lieberman, a linguist and translator of from the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Minnesota, was absolutely right. And what reed did he

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<v Speaker 1>found the day when Okay was born?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the very day, Because there was some trash talking

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<v Speaker 2>going on. The aforementioned editor of the Morning Post, Charles

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<v Speaker 2>Gordon Green, was trash talking with the Providence Journal Rhode

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<v Speaker 2>Island editor and there was something about the There was

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<v Speaker 2>a satirical citizens group called the Anti Bell Ringing Society

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston.

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<v Speaker 3>The A. B. R. S. Green was a member.

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<v Speaker 2>The editor of the Providence Rhode Island Journal was making

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<v Speaker 2>fun of Green, and they were kind of going back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth. And what happens at the end of this exchange.

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<v Speaker 1>Green says all correct, but he spelled it O K

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<v Speaker 1>as an O L L K O R R E

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<v Speaker 1>C T. He abbreviated, purposely misspelled and gave birth to

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<v Speaker 1>O K.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>So this in this case it was a lowercase with

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<v Speaker 2>periods little dot, little k dot.

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<v Speaker 3>And this might have actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Gone away again as well, even though it started being

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<v Speaker 2>used a little bit in these penny rags. But along

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<v Speaker 2>comes another coincidence with Martin van Buren, the eighth President

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States, was running for re election. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe he was from the small town of Kinderhook, New York,

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<v Speaker 2>and like Andrew Jackson and Old Hickory, he took on

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<v Speaker 2>the nickname Old Kinderhook.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what happened, well, that became his campaign slogan,

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<v Speaker 1>Okay is okay, Old Kinderhook is okay. And by this time,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the eighteen forty presidential election. He lost to

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<v Speaker 1>William Henry Harrison. I died in thirty days, but the

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<v Speaker 1>okay managed to live on as exactly the meaning that

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<v Speaker 1>we use it for today. Like Okay, that's great, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually evolved. I think they meant it much more enthusiastically.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he is okay, right, but.

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<v Speaker 1>The linguist, well, I guess he's the late linguist Alan Metcalf.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he really did a great job at getting

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<v Speaker 1>to the heart of what okay does. Now we don't

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<v Speaker 1>we can use it enthusiastically. Sometimes when we do that,

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<v Speaker 1>we're using it actually sarcastically or telling somebody to get

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<v Speaker 1>off our back. But more often than not, as Metcalf

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out, it's neutral, right, And he really got to

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<v Speaker 1>it when he kind of I should say, he nailed

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<v Speaker 1>it on the head when he when he identified it

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<v Speaker 1>as neutral.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, but an affirmative neutral, So it's an affirmative.

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<v Speaker 3>It affirms.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a reply that affirms something, but not with any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of enthusiasm.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So he was saying like it filled a void. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and avoid that we didn't even know we need it

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<v Speaker 1>because you could do the same thing. You could affirm

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<v Speaker 1>something in the positive with yes, good, fine, excellent, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Mah wasn't around yet, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of those say not only yes I'm affirming this,

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, I say I think this is actually like

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing or a positive thing. It has some

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<v Speaker 1>venear to it. Okay is basically just like copy. I

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<v Speaker 1>got it. I know what you're saying, Yes, go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and do that. I'm not saying I think what you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing is great. But if you're asking me for permission,

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<v Speaker 1>I just gave you permission with just okay. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>just one use of it as being neutral. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a that's a great I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of great insight.

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<v Speaker 3>He had no totally.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're wondering about okay A why lowercase? There are

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<v Speaker 2>different rules oka A why came after O dot k dot.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're a writer, they you know, writers use

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<v Speaker 2>things called style guides if you write for newspapers or

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<v Speaker 2>like when we used to write for HowStuffWorks dot.

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<v Speaker 3>Com, we what did we use? Do you remember? We used? Ap?

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<v Speaker 2>So ap uses uppercase, ok no periods. The Chicago Manual

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<v Speaker 2>of Style, which is another popular one, uses both. They

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<v Speaker 2>usually capitalize okah and periods are not necessary but acceptable Grammarly,

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<v Speaker 2>for their part, says okay.

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<v Speaker 3>When you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, uppercase ok for the beginning of a sentence, but

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<v Speaker 2>lowercase ok a y otherwise and if you're wondering. Overall,

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<v Speaker 2>they found that uppercase ok is used about a third

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<v Speaker 2>of the time, and edited writing and okay ay about

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<v Speaker 2>two thirds of the time, which surprised me because I

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<v Speaker 2>never ever write or type out okay ay.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I do. That's what I use the most.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh capital okay for me, baby, It.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems aggressive to me, so I tend to shy away

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<v Speaker 1>from that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, because now that capitals have taken on a

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<v Speaker 2>meaning of like you're yelling at something.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, they're hostile. So a little lowercase okay and that

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<v Speaker 1>auy just adds a little extra like hug on to

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<v Speaker 1>the end of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it, all right, I'll consider it.

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<v Speaker 2>What I want to know is how many people are

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<v Speaker 2>going to write in about your entomology joke oh okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you Probably few far less now.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, someone just stop typing there, I are.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, since Chuck just referenced somebody stop typing. Obviously, short

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