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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coleen Witt, and today we have very

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Speaker 1: special guests Kiki from Cocktails Podcasts in the building. Hey

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Speaker 1: you guys, thank.

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Speaker 2: You for coming.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah for having me. Yeah. We are in Atlanta today,

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Speaker 1: hanging out at eighty five South Studio. Shout outs to y'all. Yes,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys for that. So what are you going

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Speaker 1: to have me eating today? Today? We are going to

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Speaker 1: have a ramen noodle sturfry Ramen noodlef with chicken and

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Speaker 1: some vegetables. I love this because I usually hate ramen

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Speaker 1: on the show to death. Yeah, m in again. No, okay,

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Speaker 1: so this is a stuff fry, so I'm not eating soup.

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Speaker 1: Show me how it's done. What are the ingredients? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so water?

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Speaker 3: Of course, I'm gonna season the water before I end

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Speaker 3: up adding the noodles, just waiting for it to get

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Speaker 3: a little hotter, and then I like to add more seasonings.

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Speaker 3: So I'm still gonna put that little seasoning packet in there.

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Speaker 3: So I won't add any more salt because it's pretty

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Speaker 3: salty to me, a little soy sauce siracha, so like

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Speaker 3: a little spice, garlic powder, onion powder, and pepper. And

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Speaker 3: then like when I was making this, I would just whatever.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I had like some leftover chiyokey sauce from Chinese food,

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Speaker 3: or hoisten or oyster if I was lucky. I had

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Speaker 3: to be really, I probably came from a date if

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Speaker 3: I had some oyster sauce left. But I would just

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Speaker 3: use whatever kind of Asian flavors I might have on hand.

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Speaker 3: That's how it started. And then I was just mixing

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Speaker 3: stuff up, okay, and so yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then I noticed on your original on the original

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Speaker 1: crawl sheet, you said, bro oh, yeah, I like to

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Speaker 1: use chicken broth.

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Speaker 3: An that instead of the water mm hmm instead of

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Speaker 3: the water, or sometimes I'll add it to the water.

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Speaker 3: It just makes it more flavorful. I do it with rice,

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Speaker 3: I do it with grits. I do it with all

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Speaker 3: sorts of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I learned that.

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Speaker 3: I'm probably watching Food Network. But yeah, I like to

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Speaker 3: put a little broth in it so it's flavorful. I

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Speaker 3: don't want it to just taste like salt and noodles.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever done like coconut milk added to rice?

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Speaker 1: It is so random? Yes, how did it come out good.

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Speaker 1: It was good.

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Speaker 3: It tastes like coconut.

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Speaker 1: You added a lot, yeah, okay, not like a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like my mom's just making and she'll put a little

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Speaker 1: bit in. Yeah. Let me guess that would.

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Speaker 3: Be my phone.

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Speaker 1: Do you know how to silence those films? Okay? I made.

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Speaker 3: Like jerk chicken or something really spicy, and I decided

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Speaker 3: I wanted to try coconut milk in the rice so

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Speaker 3: that the rice would be a little sweeter to like

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Speaker 3: work with that. One day I was trying something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and once that water does.

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Speaker 3: Boil, you know, noodles only take a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go ahead and put some butter in

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Speaker 3: this other skillet so that we can stir fry the veggies.

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Speaker 1: I'll call a stirf far.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what happens today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit of stir fry. I like that.

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Speaker 1: So take me back to what was going on in

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Speaker 1: the life of Gangsteren Surfry.

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Speaker 3: So when I first started making this, I was so broke.

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Speaker 3: I was at college and I was far away from home.

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Speaker 3: I was all the way in DC. I graduated high

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Speaker 3: it gets boring and I don't really like leftovers. And sometimes,

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Speaker 3: as irresponsible as this was, I would spend money on

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Speaker 3: one day and I was getting some noodles, like one

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Speaker 3: I was going to be embarrassed. Most of my family

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Speaker 3: And yeah, college was fun. I had some amazing times,

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Speaker 3: not going to graduate. And I went to Howard. They

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Speaker 3: don't do that whole Oh you got six credits left.

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Speaker 3: You can still walk the stage, so you don't have

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Speaker 1: So oh yeah, it was a stressful time, okay, but

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Speaker 3: And you know what, not a single one of them

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Speaker 3: followed in my footsteps. Now, some of my siblings did

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Speaker 3: she even went back to becoming an instructor. Decided she

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Speaker 1: But yeah, none of them did.

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Speaker 3: I tried to convince everybody to go to Howard. I

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Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to go. Did your parents end up using

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Speaker 1: you as the example to your siblings? Like why can't

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Speaker 3: All the time?

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Speaker 1: That's hilarious. I went through all that. Yeah, all the time.

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Speaker 3: like hamburger helper, not like horrible, like we were fed

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Speaker 3: hamburger helper? Hamburger helper, there's tudor helper, there's chicken helper.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that we had all these helpers in

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Speaker 3: Did we have a lot of spaghetti? For a very

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Speaker 3: I won't buy any sort of help or nothing. I

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Speaker 1: You sound like. We had Country Wade on the show

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Speaker 1: and he was like, how many different recipes can go

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Speaker 1: with hot dogs? It's all a dog.

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Speaker 3: I just have a hot dog, chili dog grill it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. He was like, no matter what your name is,

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Speaker 1: still the same thing, right, Like, Okay, so.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna add a little bit of butter to the water.

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Speaker 1: And to the water. M okay, this is different.

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Speaker 3: onion powder to the water, okay in the little season.

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Speaker 1: a season of water, yeah, but they usually talking just salt.

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Speaker 3: But we're gonna get the salt, like, but you add

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Speaker 3: a lot of garlic powder. Okay. You don't have an

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Speaker 3: Because I want the water to be seasoned up.

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Speaker 1: water in the stir fry? Not really, not a lot.

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Speaker 3: In a way, Yes, because my degree was broadcast journalism,

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Speaker 3: and in a relationship, and somebody else was happily married.

442
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 3: So it's like we have these different opinions, but nobody

443
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 3: really wanted to tell anything about their lives. They wanted

444
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 3: to speak in a ton of generalizations.

445
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 1: And then I hate that. I hate that.

446
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like people don't you're just regurgitating things that

447
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 3: other people have already said, what actually happened to you?

448
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 1: What do you actually think?

449
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,400
Speaker 3: And that doesn't mean that anybody has to live their

450
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 3: life that way, but like, come on, I was bored,

451
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna.

452
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 1: Put this brain child. You're pulling it together, but you're

453
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 1: still allowing other opinions to kind of overs because then I'm.

454
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 3: Second guessing myself, like, well, maybe they're right, Maybe nobody wants.

455
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 1: To listen to this.

456
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 3: Maybe it'll sound a little whiny. I don't know, maybe

457
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 3: it'll just sound like we're all complaining. I don't have

458
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 3: good experiences right now. So I let that happen, and

459
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 3: then slowly but surely, all those people were gone. So

460
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 3: the guy who was happily married, he he wouldn't telling

461
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 3: his wife where he was going every week whenever we

462
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 3: were recording, and nothing bad was going on, but he

463
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: wasn't telling her, and so she was pissed and he

464
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 3: got in trouble and he couldn't come back anymore.

465
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: That's probably why he wasn't telling to begin with.

466
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he had other things going on,

467
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 3: and she just felt like this is not a priority,

468
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 3: and this isn't making you money right now?

469
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: So what are you doing?

470
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 3: You need to be home with us. And then the

471
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 3: other guy who was on the show, he was just

472
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 3: lying every week about experience, well not lying, he was

473
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 3: telling the truth on the show. Then he would forget, Oh,

474
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 3: this is gonna go out. I don't want my girl

475
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: to hear these because I told her x y Z

476
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 3: and the stories aren't gonna add up.

477
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 1: So can you edit that out?

478
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 3: No, we did the whole episode around what you said.

479
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 3: And then they were trying to get like a lot

480
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 3: of celebrities, and you know, I'm sure those people it's

481
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: no shade to them, but it's like they did something

482
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 3: in their time when they were at their prime. But

483
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: this isn't their prime, so there's no draw there. And

484
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 3: they're they're speaking in generalizations too.

485
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: We don't.

486
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 3: There's nothing, there's no reason for this. And then so

487
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 3: the two guys are gone, so then it's just me

488
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 3: and the girl. And so then my current co host, Medina.

489
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 3: We've known each other since freshman year of high school.

490
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: So as a great co host, you got a freshman, ok,

491
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: we have we've.

492
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 3: Known each other for so we can talk about anything. Yeah,

493
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 3: And so like we were best friends and she was

494
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: in Dallas at the time. Yeah, she was in Dallas

495
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 3: at the time. It's like end of twenty sixteen, and

496
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 3: she was saying that she was ready to move back

497
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 3: to Atlanta, and she had lived here, she went to

498
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: school here, but she had left some time ago. Because honestly,

499
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 3: if she would have been here when I started the show,

500
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: I probably would have just started with her, of course,

501
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 3: but she wasn't here. So she was doing another podcast

502
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 3: in Dallas. That one that experience wasn't working out for her,

503
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 3: and she was tired of being in Dallas. She wanted

504
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 3: to be back in Atlanta, and she was talking about moving.

505
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 3: I said, well, she had been a guest on the show.

506
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: I said, would you want to come on and be

507
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 3: my co host? I don't think that my current co

508
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: host is going to work out, but I would like

509
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 3: to bring you on. We'll try it with the three

510
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 3: of us and see how that goes. And if things

511
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 3: don't work out either way, you don't have to stick

512
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 3: it out. But I mean, here we are. That was

513
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen into twenty sixteen. She was like, yeah, when

514
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: I moved there, So in twenty seventeen she started officially

515
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 3: being on the show, and then somewhere along the lines

516
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 3: my original co host, she decided she didn't want to

517
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 3: do it anymore. She didn't want to be vulnerable, And

518
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 3: I remember feeling I don't even know what the word

519
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,120
Speaker 3: is for my feeling, but we were.

520
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: Having a conversation.

521
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 3: I was like, why don't you share the content like

522
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 3: on your Facebook, Like you're more active on Facebook than Instagram.

523
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: Why don't you post anything about the show or share

524
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: any links or like promoted? How are people gonna find it? Like, girl,

525
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 3: and neither one of us famous. Yeah, all we can

526
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,479
Speaker 3: do is like I'm literally calling my friends, like will

527
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 3: you please listen to the podcast and then give me

528
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 3: honest feedback, Like I'm trying to make this happen. And

529
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 3: she was like, well, if it was bigger, I wouldn't

530
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 3: have a problem doing it, Like if we were at

531
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 3: the level of like lip service, I would be cool

532
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 3: with it. But like I come from a political family

533
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah blah blah.

534
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: And I was just you should have thought about that

535
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: all a long time ago. And how am I right?

536
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: Girl?

537
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: Right? Or did you just calmly say okay, I get

538
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: it in life?

539
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: I was just like, so, how are we ever gonna

540
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 3: get there. It's just supposed to be me posting all

541
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 3: day and then you read benefits like what and so

542
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: she was like, I'm just saying like just certain things,

543
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 3: and even like the name.

544
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: Of the show.

545
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 3: I'm like, girl, you help me come up with the

546
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 3: name of the show. And why is contail so alarming

547
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: to you? We don't have like a big penis on anything.

548
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: And it's like she kept saying, well, it's the cock

549
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: park and I'm like, if it was just cocktail spelled

550
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 3: normal like a cocktail, it is the same. The CCK

551
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 3: is still there. What are you're talking about?

552
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: And you have a kid?

553
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 3: We know you have been on one before. So that

554
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 3: was just like I was like, you know what, this

555
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: is just really not gonna work out. This is not

556
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 3: gonna work out.

557
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: What am I going to do? Did you really see

558
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: the kid line?

559
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: Yes, because I'm like, girl, like come on, and like

560
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: this this act that you put on, I wouldn't bust

561
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: you out on the show, but it's like, I know

562
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 3: that this character you're portraying is not who you are.

563
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 3: Who are you hiding from and what's going on? And hey,

564
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 3: it's fine because I don't mind being the wilder person. Yeah,

565
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, you want to downplay some things whatever,

566
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: we just want to be entertained.

567
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna add the chicken out.

568
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 3: It was a little bit frozen.

569
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: Okay, so but I think this has some heat now,

570
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: so you'll put down that looks good. It looks like

571
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: real legit stir fry and it's a couple bucks meals.

572
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, super easy because this chicken is cooked already and

573
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: that makes it easier. Especially like when I was in

574
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: college that did not have a lot of pots and pants.

575
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: I think I had the same set.

576
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: But like not all these pieces. You got a lot

577
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: of pieces I had, like you know, the three piece

578
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: fry pants set. That's what I got. Has wit with

579
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: hand for us. We love them. Yeah.

580
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I forgot the question even But I

581
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 3: just remember starting the show and that was really rough

582
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: and getting to a point where Okay, I feel like

583
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 3: I found my groove and now we can work from here.

584
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: And now let's I always said, let's focus on making

585
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 3: sure we have a good show because no matter what,

586
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 3: like we could get a sponsor, but if nobody's listening

587
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 3: because the show's not good, they're not gonna see anything,

588
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna lose listeners.

589
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: Whatever.

590
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: We gotta concentrate and make sure we have a good product.

591
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: I don't want the show to be based on guests,

592
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: because I'm not doing the show alone. It's two of us.

593
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: We have guests, but it's like if a guest cancels

594
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 3: or like, I'm always thinking not to be negative, but

595
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: I just think about the what ifs of what could

596
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: happen in a day, and it's like, Okay, we book

597
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 3: our studio time because now we have left my living

598
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: room and we're in a studio, so we got to

599
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: pay for this by the hour. I'm lugging all my

600
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: equipment in there on days when I feel like doing

601
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: the video because we weren't doing video at.

602
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: First, you were. We start out all audio.

603
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: All audio, and even now the majority of our audience

604
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 3: is still audio.

605
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: Okay, but I enjoy the good though it's less pressure.

606
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: It is less pressure, And I like that she thought

607
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: about the guest thing, because I know, even with our

608
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: show that guest hurdle can be a real hurdle. We

609
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: have to pretape so many just in case.

610
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we've had we had times where like I'm

611
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: gonna have some more better. I feel like that lady

612
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: that got canceled who was always adding better on the

613
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: Food Network. I won't even say her name.

614
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: You know she got canceled for always adding butter, not.

615
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 3: For always atting butter. She was doing some races. Some

616
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: racist comments were made. But that's why I feel like,

617
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 3: because she was always adding butter. And I don't want

618
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: my arms to do that thing in the back later?

619
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: Is that where we need? But let me tell you something.

620
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: Butter is a steap on my house. I love faces

621
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: of it, but like the boxes. I buy boxes of

622
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: it in both because I use that much butter. I

623
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: can go through a stick of butter once every two days.

624
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: Maybe not every two days, but in a week, I've

625
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: been butter.

626
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

627
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 3: I love butter.

628
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: But my daughter she's too. She will eat it like

629
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: it's a candy bar. Really, it's disgusting. She literally come

630
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: in the kids and she'd be like, mommy, butter, and

631
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: then she'll go and you'll see the little finger reach

632
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: up and she'll see it. I'll leave it on the

633
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: end and you'll see a little finger like carvings in

634
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: the butter, and then she'd be so happy.

635
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: I'll be like, that's funny because what.

636
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: She'll literally be like mouthful of butter eating it, Like

637
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: I did try it by itself.

638
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: One disgusting it is, and it's so crazy how like

639
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: something that can add flavor to something else alone is

640
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 3: absolutely terrible.

641
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it needs some help. But you know, before this show,

642
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: I used to eat like, I guess, fake butter. But

643
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: then it wasn't. No, it was like you know, the

644
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: like butter that comes in a bucket and it's all smooth.

645
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, that's real butter. It wasn't until the

646
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: CEO while I'm Out was on our show and he

647
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: like was like, don't put that fake shit, get real butter.

648
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: And I was like and then I like was like, okay,

649
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: what's real butter? And then I was like, yo, I've

650
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: never cooked with real butter. Oh really? And then I

651
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: tried it and it was absolutely amazing, and I never

652
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: went back to the fake stuff.

653
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. I used to use the fake stuff because I

654
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: had to, but I couldn't wait.

655
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: To like actually buy real butter. Yeah, because it makes

656
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: it salted too.

657
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: I don't always buy salted only because I have more

658
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: control of how much salt I add and.

659
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: If you have the stuff.

660
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: And then if I'm baking, a lot of recipes call

661
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: for unsalted better.

662
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's all. I never baked though. Yeah, if my

663
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: little brother put me onto the like the cookie toe

664
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: house where it's like little squares. Oh mm hm. He

665
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: put me onto that, and I was like, wait what Yeah,

666
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: you have real nice cookies in ten minutes flat. Mm hmm. Yeah.

667
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: I was never again. Never did I bake ever again

668
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: after that. Yeah, I wasn't a big baker.

669
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: But there's like a few desserts, like like I love

670
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: sweet potato pie, Like Thanksgiving is my time. I love

671
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: making sweet potato pie over and over again.

672
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: I like, do you make the crust? No, I'm by

673
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: the crust. That's too much work. But okay, okay, but

674
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: I just I just want I was trying to test how.

675
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: Thorough you were, oh the crust, But I don't because

676
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: I also still don't have an actual pie dish.

677
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: Oh so I would.

678
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,239
Speaker 3: Need something to put it in.

679
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but I'm like, you know, whenever cocktails or

680
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: whatever whatever else I do makes me enough money to

681
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: buy my house with my big kitchen, because I.

682
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: Do really love to cook.

683
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: I want all the stuff Okay, I would love to

684
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: be like somebody who's always cooking yet and stuff.

685
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: I love when I have house guests.

686
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: I love the holidays because I really like to cook. Okay, yeah, okay,

687
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: Well your stir fry looks great. So when do you

688
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: start to take on the next challenge in podcasting, which

689
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: I think is the ultimate challenge versus live shows.

690
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: Live shows. So I was really nervous to do our

691
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: first one. We did our first one in May of

692
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. I wasn't sure if we had enough listeners.

693
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: Like first, I was like, well, I want the listeners

694
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: to start reaching out to saying it right, and I

695
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: need them to do it kind of often so that

696
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: I can feel like people are actually gonna buy the tickets,

697
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: because still it's like a bit of imposter syndrome, I

698
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 3: guess where it's like people really want to come and

699
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: pay their hard earned money to sit in a room

700
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: with no drinks, including this ticket price, to listen to

701
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: me talk about my horrible or my embarrassing experiences with

702
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: these men. Y'all are that entertained? Even though I'm probably

703
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: gonna repeat a story I said on the show, and

704
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: when I tell you they came out, they came out,

705
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: we did our first show. I was watching our numbers.

706
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: I'm always looking at the numbers, the analytics of like who's.

707
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: Actually listening to our show? And at this time we had.

708
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: A few episodes that were video, but we were still

709
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: heavily audio based. So I'm looking at the numbers, and.

710
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: We're getting to a better spot. We're getting a few ads.

711
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: Here and there, We're making a little money. Then I

712
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: started meeting people just out and about and they'd be like, hey,

713
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: do you do cocktails.

714
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, so you like the show.

715
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: You and to follow me on Instagram and see what

716
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 3: I look like, because you don't even know what I

717
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: look like from listening to the show. And so when

718
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: people were reaching out that were total strangers, not the

719
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: friends I had been begging to listen to the show,

720
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, we got something, and it was

721
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: happening with both of us, and so I was like, Okay, well,

722
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: let's let's look at venues and see how much this

723
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 3: is really gonna cost, because we're gonna have to front

724
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: the money. We didn't have a big network behind us

725
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 3: then and even today we don't. We have an ad

726
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: network that does sell advertising for us, but we didn't

727
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: have any help. And did you ever end up selling

728
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: your own?

729
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: Oh? I guess you did the sponsorship of the till right, Yeah.

730
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: The sponsorship with a pill like she bought some ads

731
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 3: and she sponsored some live shows. But then too, just

732
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: reaching out to different companies. We did like a small

733
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: vodka company and a couple of other small businesses, a

734
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: lot of them services.

735
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: A lot of them were local, but some.

736
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 3: Weren't even in Atlanta, And it's like, we have listeners

737
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: other places and we can see where they are.

738
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: So we did sell on our own.

739
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: But it was so much easier when I could focus

740
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: on the show and then like that whole advertised cash.

741
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: Once I found out about that and got us hooked

742
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: up on there, that was great. It made the world

743
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: of difference because then you just get the email that hey,

744
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 3: somebody has placed an order on your show, and that

745
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: felt good.

746
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So going back to the live shows. Okay, So

747
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: take me to through that whole process for you. So

748
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: we're going to all these different venues. I'm at work

749
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: at the radio station at the time. What was my

750
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: co host doing?

751
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: She was working at this real estate company. I think

752
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: she was like an office manager or something there. I

753
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: don't know, but we're like trying to coordinate in our schedules.

754
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: At one point she was, what's she a flight no,

755
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 3: the flight attendant one step.

756
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

757
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 3: So we're coordinating our schedules, trying to go to all

758
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: these different places, trying to find somebody first that we

759
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 3: can reach out to to buy the venues. Some of

760
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: these venues are really expensive. So we found this place

761
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: downtown Atlanta, and she told us how much it would be,

762
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 3: and I was like, okay, I'm thinking, we how is

763
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: a deposit? When do we have to pay the balance?

764
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: If we can put, we should put. We need to

765
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: give everybody ninety days to get their tickets and like

766
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: to promote the thing. So we put the tickets on

767
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: sale in February and then I was like, we do

768
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: it with event, right, they'll pay us out. I think

769
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: it's like every week or every other week something like that.

770
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: Then we'll just take that money that we're getting from

771
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 3: ticket sales and put it up. I think I don't

772
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: remember if we split it or if I just paid

773
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: what the deposit was, but we had something for the deposit,

774
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 3: and then we just use that ticket sales like sweating bullets,

775
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 3: like fuck yeah, until I put the tickets on sale

776
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: because it sold out in two weeks, and I was

777
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: just like, oh my god, I sold the tickets for

778
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: too like they were too cheat your tickets. They started

779
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 3: at twenty five dollars. You never see a twenty five

780
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: dollars ticket again unless we're at a comedy club, because

781
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: they make us do that, and I'd be mad, but

782
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: you know.

783
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: Why, because they want the drink money. Yeah, they don't

784
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: at the comedy clubs. They don't do a different split

785
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: or is it just what.

786
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: So at the comedy clubs they will sell the tickets

787
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: at a certain price. But what I've learned is you're

788
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: gonna get different deals depending on if somebody. If you're

789
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: working with somebody else versus representing yourself, makes a big difference.

790
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: Because we got a booking agent. Later in twenty twenty

791
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 3: we got a booking agent. We didn't do another show

792
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 3: until twenty twenty two, but that made a difference. And

793
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: so we have somebody representing us. It just makes it

794
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 3: look better. And then once we were able to sell

795
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 3: out a show at this comedy club, then the next

796
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: go around they're offering us way more money, so it's

797
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 3: like they're not getting money, yeah, because we're not selling

798
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 3: the tickets.

799
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: They sell the tickets.

800
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: So the first four shows that we did in twenty nineteen,

801
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: we sold the tickets ourselves on event right. We were

802
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 3: gonna tour in twenty twenty, but the world shut down.

803
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 3: Somebody reached out to us in twenty twenty about working

804
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: together and he said he could represent us, and he

805
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: had done like all these different rock bands, but he

806
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: was trying to do podcasts.

807
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.

808
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: So he sets up what was the first show we did?

809
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: Was it here? Wait? This is wait before before you

810
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: get to him, explain some of the hurdles of the

811
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: mindset and everything going on at the time doing your

812
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: first show.

813
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: People bought tickets, but they were cheap, so will they come?

814
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: Are there going to be empty seats? Then it was like, okay,

815
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 3: the actual show itself, Like, I'm worried about all this

816
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: other show, but we have to come up with something

817
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 3: to make it entertaining so that people have like a memorable.

818
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: Experience with us.

819
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: We don't want them to feel like they wasted their money,

820
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: even if the ticket was five dollars, Like you I

821
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: want you to come and have a great time. So

822
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 3: figuring that out, trying to figure out the order of things,

823
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 3: whether to incorporate people or not. Then it's like little

824
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: stuff at the venue, extra security. I think we need

825
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 3: that security, Yes we do, because these girls get drunk

826
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: and wild, you know, extra security did. And then I

827
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: learned after the first show, we're.

828
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: Like, okay, more security. And then how long was it

829
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: your first How do you try to do at least

830
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: two hours or no?

831
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 3: I felt like people get bored by then. So we

832
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: had another podcast open up for us. We gave them

833
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes. Then we had a fifteen minutes and so

834
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: they came out like right at showtime, storry right. So

835
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: we gave them fifteen minutes, and then we had a

836
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: host who was a comedian, a friend of ours.

837
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: He did like another tenige minutes.

838
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: He came out, introduced them, then he came back out,

839
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: did a little set, played some games to get the

840
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: people hype, and then we came out. I think we

841
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: were out there for like an hour and a.

842
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: Half, and so the whole show was like two hours,

843
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: but us.

844
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: Being on stage was not. And I felt like we

845
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 3: could have cut it down they had a blast, but

846
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, you just never want to have

847
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: that moment where you're dragging some hurdles. Don't take too

848
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: many good luck show shots ahead of the show because

849
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 3: you might get a little too loose lips, and it

850
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 3: is there is no editing that people are right in

851
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: front of your face.

852
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: I feel like for your show, it's better though that way, right,

853
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: the looselip no okay?

854
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: For me, I get slurry, So then it's like it's

855
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: not funny because you don't know what I'm saying. I

856
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: just look like a drunk mess. Now my co host

857
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: I don't be knowing she's drunk sometimes until she says

858
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 3: something I know she wouldn't have said, and I'm like,

859
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 3: I wish I could do that, But this mouth gets

860
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: real relaxed. Yeah, I'll say anything. Okay, it can work

861
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 3: out good and other times not so much so. Learning

862
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 3: that what other hurdles just crowd control, and I think

863
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: we're pretty good at that overall. But the first show,

864
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 3: even like I cried a little bit before we went

865
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: out because I was like, this is just an idea

866
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 3: in my head listening to the read, and now people

867
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: are actually paying to.

868
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: Come see me, and it's years later, yes, how many years?

869
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: So this is?

870
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: This is so the show had been out for three

871
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 3: years at that point. This is twenty nineteen. So I'm like, Okay,

872
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 3: people are coming out and they're gonna spend money, and

873
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: they're excited to see us, like they are like jumping

874
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: up and down happy, they want to take pictures.

875
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: I just cried a little.

876
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: Bit on the side of the stage and I have

877
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 3: fixed my makeup and come back. But and then I

878
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: just thought about it. It was like all the naysayers, everybody's saying,

879
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: you need to focus on a real job, you need

880
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: to be applying.

881
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: For jobs and their little podcast at this time, are

882
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: you working any side jobs?

883
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: No side jobs, it's just the podcast and the radio station.

884
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: That's it. Okay, And yeah, you're dealing with a lot

885
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: mm hmm. And so I just okay, at this point,

886
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: is your co host also in one hundred percent or she.

887
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: She's in one hundred percent and she was enjoying it.

888
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 3: Now the difference was with us.

889
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: Is like.

890
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 3: What would I say would be a big difference. Sometimes

891
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: I think that she didn't really how much work I

892
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: was doing because I wasn't asking for help and I

893
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: enjoy it. I can be a bit of a workaholic,

894
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: but at times it felt like, Okay, just because I

895
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 3: don't need your help with these things doesn't mean that

896
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: I don't want some help in places where I'm not

897
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 3: so great at, you know. Yeah, so that was a

898
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 3: bit of a struggle. But as far as like feeling

899
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 3: all in and really wanting this to be a thing,

900
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: she was definitely all in. She always has been, and

901
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: so that was something. It's like we were friends first

902
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 3: and then being all in about the show, and then

903
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: just like talking to each other and again both of

904
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: us not listening to what other people say about who's

905
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 3: doing what and all of that, because everybody can feel

906
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 3: how they want to feel, but this.

907
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: Is our work situation.

908
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what I'm good at, I know what

909
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: she's good at, and a lot of the things are

910
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: not the same, which to me is ideal because then

911
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: we can, you know, cover so much ground. And then

912
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: just getting comfortable with that. Once we got into that groove,

913
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: it was just like, Okay, things are really going on.

914
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: All right. So after you do your first successful show,

915
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: m hmm, okay, then you get you come across the booker.

916
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so then come across the booker, and so then

917
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 3: I see like, not only were we selling our tickets

918
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 3: kind of low, it's a lot easier with him representing us.

919
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: And he was only taking uh still, he only takes

920
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: ten percent. And I was like, okay, good, because I

921
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: was also afraid he's ten of the grocer, the ten

922
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: percent of the gross if it's if we get a guarantee,

923
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: ten percent of the net. If it's no guarantee. Okay,

924
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 3: So what does that mean? So like a ven you

925
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: might say, we're going to give you fifteen thousand dollars

926
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: to do this show, so we're not worried about to

927
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 3: sales or nothing, because no matter what, we getting fifteen

928
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, Like, we still want it to be a

929
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: packed house, but we're getting fifteen thousand dollars to do

930
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: this venue, we don't have to worry about it. Another

931
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: venue might say, well, you've never done this market before,

932
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 3: we don't know. We'll sell your tickets at these prices,

933
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: these different levels, and then you will get seventy percent

934
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 3: or you get seventy five percent after all of these expenses.

935
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: So it just depends. But the guaranteed deals, I mean,

936
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 3: sometimes you get more. Sometimes you don't. It just depends

937
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: on what your rep is able to work out for you.

938
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 3: But then even like because I have friends who are

939
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 3: in this industry and we'll talk, you find out other

940
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 3: people are getting way different offers and it just comes

941
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 3: with your numbers. They do matter, And have you done

942
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: this venue? Who's representing you? Are they fighting for you?

943
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: Things like that, because even in some venues, like we

944
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 3: had to talk to our agent, like you need to

945
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: talk to the venues to make sure that they are

946
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: upholding their end of the bargain. If they say there's

947
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: going to be security and stuff, we don't think anybody's

948
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: gonna come in and shoot the place up. But the

949
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: girls get a little over zealous sometimes and they want

950
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: to come hang out backstage because I don't know what happens.

951
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's alcohol or just feeling like

952
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 3: we're all best friends because you've been listening to us,

953
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 3: but we actually haven't met you. You've only met us,

954
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: and they're trying to come backstage or just moving around

955
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: backstage where all of our personal belongings are. And sometimes

956
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, after being on for so many people,

957
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: we need a second to decompress. We do meet and

958
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: greets and stuff, and they just kind of let anybody

959
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: who says, oh, we're going back to see kikim Adina,

960
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: They'll just let them go. And we don't have like

961
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 3: a big team. So then what's like, the scariest experience

962
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: you had. Scariest experience was here in Atlanta. There was

963
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 3: a guy who have been dming me on Instagram. He

964
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 3: was deming the cocktails page, he was sending emails, he

965
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: had contacted the venue, he bought a ticket to come

966
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 3: to the live show. But then he was just getting

967
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: carried away with all of the messages and the stuff

968
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: that he said he wanted to do to me, and

969
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: it was all sexual in nature. And then he was

970
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: asking me like how much he could pay me to

971
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: FaceTime him or let him.

972
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: Instagram call me and all this other stuff.

973
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I know that we talk about sex,

974
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: but that's not what I'm selling. I'm selling as on

975
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 3: this show and that's it. And so it was scary

976
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: because he bought a ticket. He emailed a screenshot of

977
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: his confirmation showing that he was coming out. Just I

978
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: felt like he was a huge guy. He's like six '

979
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: six and I'm like, you just you do too much.

980
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 3: And I think this curious kind of little at the

981
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: City Winery, which is where the live show was, and

982
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: I was just like, what if he gets aggressive or

983
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 3: just does too much, or it's like trying to follow

984
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: me out to the car.

985
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: That was probably the scariest Okay, and they actually let

986
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: him into the venue or so he didn't show up,

987
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: thank goodness, but he did buy a ticket and they

988
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: said that they've had problems with him before with other

989
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: shows that have come through.

990
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 3: Okay, so people like already knew his face and there

991
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: was yeah, I said, just refund the ticket. He can't come.

992
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 3: He's doing too much. Yeah, And I don't know. I'm

993
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: sure it's like some mental issues going on there, but

994
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: it's just too pushy and that makes people feel uncomfortable.

995
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: And sometimes, even like when people are really excited, sometimes

996
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: people do too much and it does make you a

997
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: little concerned, and then you have to remember, like, Okay,

998
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: people will know a lot about you because of what

999
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: you're sharing, and it just makes you nervous. When you

1000
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 3: watch shows like what's that show on Netflix? You and

1001
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: that guy is like telling all of this stuff from

1002
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: like a little Facebook status or tweet or something, or

1003
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: looking at a picture and looking at the background, and

1004
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: so it just makes you a little nervous because you

1005
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: never know who's paying attention to you, and you just hope, like,

1006
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: nothing bad happens. Fortunately, nothing is bad has happened. But

1007
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 3: that was like a scary situation.

1008
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was sharing with you prior that we had

1009
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: Wheezy on mm hmm. Loved her episode, but what came

1010
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: with her episode was there was like a stalker guy

1011
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: that was like, at first it was like okay, then

1012
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: it got like a hundred messages. It would be like

1013
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: all these alerts from the same guy, and if you

1014
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: didn't respond, it just got excessively bad. But I remember

1015
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: he was following our show for a while, commenting on everyone.

1016
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: But when Weezy had showed up, it was like the

1017
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: type of stuff he was saying that he wanted to

1018
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: do to her, and I was like, brother, like you can't,

1019
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: you can't. And then it would just go from like

1020
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: the eating while broke damns to like my DMNs and

1021
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: then at one point I just reached out to her like, Yo,

1022
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: this guy knows everybody in your camp. He's dropping names

1023
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: like he knows addresses like, and she was like, man,

1024
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: that stalker won't stop. And I'm like, yo, I'm gonna

1025
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: save all this stuff in the DM. So if you

1026
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: ever need to get a red, like your restraining orders

1027
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: reinstated or need help, yeah, I got like, yeah, I

1028
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: got a lot, like too much. And I was like realizing,

1029
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: like even in that kind of similar like what he

1030
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: was saying, it was like, Yo, you're objectifying this woman

1031
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: who was actually on my shoul So you got to

1032
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 1: actually see who she was and what she was about

1033
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: and all she's learning in her career. But your brain

1034
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: won't even accept who she is. You're just you've made

1035
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: this idea of who she is in your brain, And

1036
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: if you heard the episode, you would have walked away

1037
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: knowing that this is not the way you would approach her,

1038
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: you know, right. But I could see like that sickness,

1039
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: like where someone can see you online and just kind

1040
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: of assume.

1041
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they assume that this piece of content that we're

1042
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: putting out, which is very niche, but this is what

1043
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: our show is about. So yes, that's all we're talking about. Yeah,

1044
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: but that's not all you are about.

1045
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: Like, am my everyday life? That's not what I'm talking about. No,

1046
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: you're definitely seeing more of like an entrepreneur, and you

1047
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: were sharing with me like a lot of the stuff

1048
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: you looked up was like how you make money and

1049
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: all this stuff. So I would say more so you're

1050
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: impressive podcaster, but definitely more of an entrepreneur.

1051
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I'm always thinking about it, and just like

1052
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: I like to learn, I'm constantly trying to learn something

1053
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 3: different and how things work and what are other ways

1054
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 3: to do things, and what are things I haven't thought of?

1055
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: And that's really what I'm talking about with people outside

1056
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 3: of the show.

1057
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: It's not about men. How's your dating life now? Girl?

1058
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: You know, I really don't participate in it much. You

1059
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: don't like you're not actively pursuing it anymore, not right now.

1060
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 3: Like there was someone I was seeing, but right now

1061
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: I feel like I can't focus on that. He's not

1062
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 3: totally gone, but it's just not something that is at

1063
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: the forefront of my mind. I have this show, of course,

1064
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 3: but then I have some other things, some other projects

1065
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: that I want to get off the ground. If I

1066
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 3: could do it with this and get this success, and

1067
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: I could start at you know, a better starting.

1068
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: Point with other things.

1069
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 3: I really need to put my energy into that, and

1070
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 3: if you need me too much, I'm not gonna be

1071
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: a good partner to you. And I can recognize that.

1072
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 3: So it's like no love loss there. But I just

1073
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 3: really can't focus on the dating right now. And I

1074
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 3: think that people either don't believe that or they have

1075
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 3: a hard time understanding that because many women are boy

1076
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: crazy or you know, at my age, you want.

1077
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: To be married and have kids and all that stuff, and.

1078
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: It's just like why would you not actively do it?

1079
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 3: But it's just not a top priority. And I'm okay

1080
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 3: with not going on dates all the time because I'm

1081
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: still gonna go out to eat. I'm still gonna do

1082
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: all the fun things and have the experiences. You know,

1083
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: are you at the place where you date yourself more

1084
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 3: like you? Yeah, I'm a great dater. What do you

1085
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 3: mean like when I'm dating myself? Okay, I take great

1086
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 3: care of myself. I'm gonna paan for myself. I'm going

1087
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 3: to great restaurants. I'm gonna have good experiences, and it's

1088
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 3: fun when I can share that with somebody else. But

1089
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 3: if it's just me, it's okay because I also I'm

1090
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 3: fearful that like I'll turn into a person where they

1091
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 3: always have to be attached to somebody. Yeah, and I

1092
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 3: don't want that. And it's like make sure that I'm

1093
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: happy with who I am and what I have going on,

1094
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: and you'll be way more interesting for somebody else.

1095
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: To Yeah that way, I agree. Yeah, I was little

1096
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: like serial daters, like never single. It's a miracle if

1097
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: you can get me single for like three months, like

1098
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: it's bad. Like my I remember my pastor during one

1099
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: of my breakups, was like just one year, if you

1100
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: can make it one year, no kissing, no touching, no boyfriend.

1101
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: I made it about a month and a half with

1102
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: no kissing. I like fought like hell to make it

1103
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: to a year with no boyfriend because you know, the

1104
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: person I was kissing I was like, yoh.

1105
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: What's up.

1106
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: And I was like I'm trying something, So they didn't

1107
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: really count. And then it wasn't until I had my daughter.

1108
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, you know what at this point. Yeah,

1109
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: now it's just like if I'm available for an hour

1110
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: and I call them slots, Like if a dude's like

1111
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: trying to holler, I'd be like you get a slot,

1112
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: and they'd be like a slot. I'll be like on

1113
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: this day, at this time, there's about a two hour window.

1114
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: You know, this is what I want to do. If

1115
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: you don't want to join me, that's fine. Well I'm

1116
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: gonna do what I want to do during my slot.

1117
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: And so it's all about me. It's really when you

1118
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: think about So the one time the guy tried to

1119
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: hit me back, well I have a slot, and I

1120
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: was like, he was like, these are all the options

1121
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: for my slot and I was just like, you know,

1122
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: like the do do and he was like, all right,

1123
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: I get it, Like yeah, it's like I don't. I'm

1124
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: at the point where it's like it's me and I

1125
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: don't have room to care about you.

1126
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that.

1127
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: It's an amazing.

1128
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 3: Feeling once you get to feeling okay with your own

1129
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 3: company and putting yourself first, because I think people need

1130
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 3: periods of time like that where you are a priority

1131
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 3: to yourself, because sometimes people are always thinking about what

1132
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 3: they're doing with somebody else, and I just don't want

1133
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 3: to regret maybe putting somebody else's needs first way too much.

1134
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 1: I did my regrets, men. Yeah, all my regrets is men. Now.

1135
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: I used to say I regret a lot of the

1136
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: men that I dated, like in college and when I

1137
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 3: first moved to Atlanta, because I came here right after

1138
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 3: I graduated. But I don't anymore because it was their

1139
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 3: stories that catapulted the show. And so I'm forever grateful

1140
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 3: to all of those horrible men out there that gave

1141
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: me some great stories to tell. And so I can

1142
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: laugh about it now, but it was not funny. I

1143
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 3: used to be crying walslide and listening to Mariah Carey

1144
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 3: wall sliding, sliding on the wall, sing R and B

1145
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 3: in the shower, and then it's like, girl, you don't

1146
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 3: even have an audience, this is not a music video.

1147
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 3: What are you doing? I used to do some really

1148
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 3: dramatic thing, yeah, and stare at myself in the mirror,

1149
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: crying like you look stupid. After a minute, pick yourself up.

1150
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever done that.

1151
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know.

1152
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm a rebounder though, I'm a rebounder, like it'd be like, oh,

1153
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: that ball ain't working out, let's pick up a different ball.

1154
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: I get tired of meeting somebody new because a lot

1155
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 3: of times I don't find a lot of guys very interesting.

1156
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to meet somebody new. There's always

1157
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: like I used to always have like a if you

1158
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: fuck up, there's thirty niggas that want to take that

1159
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: CM and I'd be like they in the background somewhere.

1160
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 3: But the background ones were always more of like a

1161
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 3: physical connection than somebody who I would really really date,

1162
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 3: because the physical I mean, I don't now that whole

1163
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 3: a year without kissing and all.

1164
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: That I ever do that? Well?

1165
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: Did I?

1166
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 3: Maybe I did a year without kissing or sex or

1167
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 3: anything like that. I was probably coming out of a heartbreak.

1168
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 3: I can't even remember. But sometimes you do have those

1169
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 3: physical needs, but it's not as often. But a year

1170
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 3: could I do a year now?

1171
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, here's a long time. That's a long time.

1172
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,959
Speaker 1: I don't know. All right, Well, what are some tid

1173
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: beds of advice you would give to someone else trying

1174
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: to get into your seat?

1175
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 3: I would say, you know, if podcasting is what you're

1176
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 3: interested in, don't be discouraged by the fact that there's

1177
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: millions of podcasts, because most of these podcasts will not

1178
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 3: be here in a year. Most people don't make it

1179
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 3: very far. They give up. It might be a minute

1180
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 3: before you make money, and you have to make sure

1181
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 3: that you pick a subject matter that you are okay

1182
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 3: with talking about for a while and make sure that

1183
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 3: you I think people should structure their show. Have some structure,

1184
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 3: because everybody doesn't and you don't have to, but I

1185
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 3: would say try it out just to see and then

1186
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 3: that way it helps you so that you don't have

1187
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 3: those lulls in your conversation and just stay focused and like,

1188
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: don't listen to a lot of negativity, take constructive criticism.

1189
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 3: But when people are telling you shouldn't do it because

1190
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 3: everybody else is doing it, and why you don't listen

1191
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: to that, just keep going. It doesn't matter if you're

1192
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: popular online already or not, because you can really turn

1193
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 3: it into something like I was not popular online. I

1194
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 3: didn't I was just a girl and her friends who

1195
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 3: were doing a show about their own experiences and organically

1196
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 3: growing the show into what it is now. And we've

1197
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 3: been able to secure a lot of sponsorships, We've been

1198
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: able to do live shows all across the country. We

1199
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 3: even got to do one in Canada last year. I

1200
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 3: was really excited about that because now feeling like Candy

1201
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 3: Birds when she was like I'm world wide, bitch, and

1202
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 3: it's not really worldwide, but I'm gonna say it.

1203
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: I was about to ask that, but I'm glad you

1204
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: said that.

1205
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was exciting because it's like, Wow, even though

1206
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 3: it's right up the street, it's still like, there's all

1207
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 3: these people over here that are paying to come see us,

1208
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 3: and we get to have this experience and we get

1209
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 3: to go travel to different places that maybe we can

1210
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: go and meet different people. It's just been really cool.

1211
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: So stay focused and just keep trying and don't be

1212
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 3: afraid to switch things up. But I also tell people like,

1213
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 3: don't just expect people to just come knocking at your

1214
00:56:54,680 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 3: door for anything, whether it be guests or advertisers or anything.

1215
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 3: And don't be afraid to reach out like there have

1216
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 3: been shows where it's like or smaller shows that have

1217
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: reached out to us, for example, not that we're super huge,

1218
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 3: but we've done all right, and they'll be scared to

1219
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: even ask to come on the show, and it's like,

1220
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 3: well why not, Yeah, Like come on, can't you talk

1221
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 3: or you're gonna get shy. That's really what I'm worried about.

1222
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 3: I don't care who you are. If one person listens

1223
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: to your podcast that is okay, can you hold a

1224
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: conversation and can we laugh about something together? Okay, come on, Like,

1225
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 3: don't be scared. I think I do it still. But

1226
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 3: operating in fear a lot of times will hold you

1227
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: back from so much and you just never know what

1228
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 3: could happen if you just ask, or you just try,

1229
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 3: or you don't give up.

1230
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: How what advice would you give in regards to consistency.

1231
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: You've got to be consistent. If you got issues with consistency,

1232
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if podcasting.

1233
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: Is really what you should do.

1234
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 3: Maybe you should work behind the scenes, because it's very

1235
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 3: important to be consistent because this is a thing. People

1236
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: start to listen to podcasts or watch them and it

1237
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 3: becomes a part of their routine. Right if you go

1238
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: too long without uploading, they might forget you. And just

1239
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 3: like you were talking about your slots with dating, people

1240
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 3: have slots for free time or to listen to the podcast.

1241
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 3: So if they find another show when you haven't been uploading,

1242
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 3: you haven't said anything. That can be hard. And to

1243
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 3: get those people back it's hard. It's like even when

1244
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 3: you don't post on social media, you've got to stay consistent.

1245
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 3: And you gotta keep pushing stuff out and if you

1246
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 3: need a break, you know, let your audience know, or

1247
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 3: if it's I know, some people do seasons instead of

1248
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 3: going straight through. We've never done seasons, and that has

1249
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 3: been taxing, but I'm glad that we haven't because sometimes

1250
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: if you take too long of a break, you might

1251
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: not come back. And it's just like TV shows, like

1252
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 3: I can't think of the show's name even right now,

1253
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 3: but I saw people talking on Twitter. They were saying

1254
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: the show was going to come back next year, and

1255
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: people are like, don't even worry about it because it's

1256
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 3: been too long. We've forgot about the story and it's

1257
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: a new show every day. You really gotta you gotta

1258
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 3: be consistent.

1259
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, even with our side we are with

1260
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: the Black Effect Network, but for a long time we

1261
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: posted East Coast time and then every once in a while, man,

1262
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: they'll slip up at that time. So I'm like, you

1263
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: don't understand. People take jogs whatever the heck, that's their routine,

1264
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: and we can someone to take that slot because we

1265
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: didn't show up at that time. But I do know

1266
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: what us where we have to do season based because

1267
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: we're so heavily guessed that we have to pre tape

1268
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, we pre tape a lot. Yeah.

1269
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 3: We usually do like two episodes in a day, and

1270
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: then we might record for three weeks and then take

1271
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 3: a week or two off or two weeks and then

1272
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 3: a week off two weeks, and then we can take

1273
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 3: like a longer break because we also travel a lot,

1274
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 3: and so sometimes it can be hard, and then it's

1275
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 3: also just easier to have to go to the studio

1276
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 3: and knock this out in a day to do two

1277
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 3: episodes in one Yeah, yeah, yep.

1278
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for your time and feeding

1279
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: me and blessing me. Shout out to where everyone could

1280
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: keep up with you and you guys can keep up

1281
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: with me at.

1282
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 3: Kiki said, So it's k I K I S A

1283
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 3: I D S O on all social media and then

1284
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 3: Cocktails Dirty Discussions is the name.

1285
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: Of my podcast.

1286
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 3: You can check it out and also our website I'm

1287
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 3: Curious to Know dot com. We didn't even get to

1288
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 3: talk about that, but we came out with a conversational

1289
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 3: card deck, and so you can buy that. It's like

1290
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten different questions to ask if you're

1291
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 3: on a date with somebody, and sometimes it's kind of

1292
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 3: hard to you know, spark up a conversation or you're

1293
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 3: nervous or whatever.

1294
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: You can even play with your friends.

1295
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 3: And that's something that even when the show is done

1296
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 3: and we don't want to do it anymore, that's a

1297
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 3: product that lives on forever. That's another tip.

1298
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 1: I'm curious to know. I'm curious to know card deck

1299
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: dot com.

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