1 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: We never sometimes get the feeling when we go into 2 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: a new month that things seem a little too peaceful, 3 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: seems a little too quiet around here. I'm looking around 4 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: my industry. Everyone's scheduling their vacations. The next big thing 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: quote unquote is big ten Media Days or SCEC Media Days. 6 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: People are starting to buy their preview magazines. People are 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 1: starting to make their travel plans for the fall. All 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: of this is well and good, But the insinuation there, 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: maybe even the assumption there, is that nothing else can 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: happen between now and then, and that's when the bomb 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: goes off. And I think we may have one go 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: off in July. So let's dive into a jam pack 13 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: show tonight. We're high a top a sunburned downtown Nashville, Tennessee, Sunday, 14 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: June thirtieth Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty four. Yeah, 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: he may just have more realignment news coming in July. 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: We got a new month right there on the doorstep, 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: and by the time we exit July, perhaps college football 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: looks a lot different than when we knocked on the 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: door and walked into July, Texas and know you have 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: already made it official. 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: They made it official several years ago. 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: They're coming to the SEC like today, and there are 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: some myths, there's some fact, and there's some fiction about 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. But also I think there's a fair 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: amount of fact in fiction that one of you pointed 26 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: out that I'm going to address tonight about the status 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: of those programs as they enter the SEC. I've got 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: what ifs on the show tonight. I've got bold predictions 29 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: on the show tonight. I've got some borderline hate speech 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: and nonsense being cast at poor innocent Dan Lanning out 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: on the West Coast. He ain't never done nothing to nobody, 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, Dan Lanny can't do this, 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: and shan't do that. No one said shan't I inserted that, 34 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: But you get the spirit. You go a couple of 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: years into this profession and don't win a literal national championship, 36 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: they'll cast you on the scrap heap. Watching us in 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: winter Haven, Florida, Portland, Oregon, Sandy Springs, Georgia, Scottsburg, Indiana. 38 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. Programming note hold on, As 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: is tradition, we have to pop the paper to get 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: everyone's attention. 41 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: When we have a programming note. 42 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: I have been dutifully informed that July fourth is going 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: to happen this week, and we take it very seriously 44 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: around here. So we will not have a show this 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: upcoming Thursday. But fear not, because we are going to 46 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: have you a show Tuesday. Not only that, but Jesse, 47 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: I heard we're going to be down in Fort Lauderdale 48 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: for some weird project Tuesday, So we're gonna do the 49 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: show live from Fort Lauderdale, which means nothing to you 50 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: other than the studio will look nicer than this rental 51 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: we're in right now. So Tuesday, not only are we 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: doing a show Tuesday night, it's gonna be early, it's 53 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: gonna be five eastern, fourth Central because some of us 54 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: have to catch a flight that night. And so there 55 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: you go. At Lake Kick Josh follow along for all 56 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: relevant updates on that front. Let's dive into this show tonight, 57 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: because I did not want to beat around the bush here. 58 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: I've seen see some people wondering about some things that 59 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: certain folks have been posting on the Internet, the World 60 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: Wide Web today, and believe it or not, we were 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: a going to talk about this to lead the show, 62 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: So why not the whole FSU wanting to get out 63 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: of the ACC thing is not new. Even if you've 64 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: been paying just a small bit of attention to college 65 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: football or college athletics. Even you know that FSU's trying 66 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: to get out, Clemson's trying to get out North Carolina. 67 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: A lot of these schools want out. They don't like 68 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: their situation there. And if you're new to the game 69 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: and you wonder what do they want out for, well, 70 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: it goes back a long way and it's a long story, 71 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: but essentially it boils down to money and they're not 72 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: going to get enough of it, and they don't like 73 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: being boxed in, and they're looking at what the SEC 74 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: is doing, and they're looking at what the Big ten's doing. 75 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: They want to be doing that thing instead of the 76 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: thing they're currently doing. 77 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: So we've talked about this a lot on the show, 78 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: and if you were unfamiliar, go back and find the 79 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: videos on this topic. However, there were and still are 80 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: a lot of rumors out there about this would happen. 81 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: Hey, it's easy to say this stuff. This stuff's vague. 82 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: That's what FSU fans come to me most frequently in 83 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: the comments and say, why are you saying things that 84 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: are so vague. If you claim you know something, why 85 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: don't you. 86 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: Just spill it. 87 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: It's a good point. Here's my reason. I don't know. 88 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't know the details. No one does, even the 89 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: people more informed than me, even the people that are 90 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: ultimately gonna pull levers on various parts of this decision. 91 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't think know the full story. Now, it could 92 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: be that in retrospect we get the full story when 93 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: they write the book on not when, not if, but 94 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: when FSU leaves, when we end up getting the book. 95 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: Hey, maybe there was some grand Maybe there was some group. 96 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: Of wizards behind the curtain over here, not just one 97 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: that knew the whole time. The feedback I get is 98 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: that's not the way it is. The way it is 99 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: is this little enclave of folks over here know what's 100 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: going on in their lane, and this little group of 101 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 1: people over here know what's going on in that lane, 102 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: and maybe maybe they talk, maybe they communicate, But there 103 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: is no possible way, given how tangled the web is, 104 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: for someone in my line of work to have all 105 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: those details. And if I did, if someone trusted you 106 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: with that, there's especially no way I'd be able to 107 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: spill it. Don't worry. I don't fit into the latter. 108 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: I fit into the former, however, don't mean I don't 109 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: talk to anyone. So I'm going to reiterate what I 110 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: told you last week. I think on the lake Cake 111 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: Extra pod. On the legal side of this front, I 112 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: do have pretty decent contacts. These contacts do not necessarily 113 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: care about sports. They care about their legal careers. And 114 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: so they informed me a couple of weeks ago. Get ready, 115 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: get ready. These are not people that are prone to hyperbole. Again, 116 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: they don't care, but they did give me the good 117 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: courtesy of letting me know that whatever kind of dominoes 118 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: would put in motion a couple of weeks ago, it's 119 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: going down. When is it going down? Can't possibly know, 120 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: but I will say this, And talking to a couple 121 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: of other people informed on the matter, not involved, but 122 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: in the matter, here's something to consider that I, from 123 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: two different folks, got told enough to where it made 124 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: sense to me, and it kind of raised my antenna. 125 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: A little bit. 126 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: It's a foregone conclusion amongst pretty much anyone who knows 127 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: anything that it's a matter of time before Florida State 128 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: makes a move how they're gonna do it is beside 129 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: the point because you're not involved. I'm not involved. We 130 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,679 Speaker 1: don't need to figure out how. We just know it's coming, 131 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: or we think we know it's coming. The decision makers 132 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: involved in when that's gonna happen are of this world, 133 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: this world, meaning they don't wear a whistle around their neck. 134 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: They understand marketing, strategy, promotion, dollars and cents, of course, 135 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: but they understand there is a picture here, much bigger 136 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: in the just dope Campbell Stadium or Clemson or Florida 137 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: State or fill in the blank. They understand that there's 138 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: a whole bigger world. There's a world with several zeros 139 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: on the end of it. That's what this really all 140 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: centers around. And what I'm saying that for is I 141 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: want to take you back about three years this month. 142 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: Three years ago, we entered July. 143 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: No one's talking about Texas and OU and the SEC 144 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: no One. And then we get into mid July, and 145 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: where was it that year? I think Birmingham or Atlanta. 146 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: SEC Media days starts and you wake up the morning 147 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: the bomb goes off, and you know nothing, and all 148 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you get a text or you check Twitter, 149 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: or you get an alert sent to your phone, or 150 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: someone calls you and says, can you believe Texas and 151 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: Oklahoma are going to the SEC And that was the 152 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: first you heard of it. You can't overstate the impact 153 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: that had on this space, but also just on the 154 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: entire ecosystem of not only the entertainment industry, not only 155 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: collegiate athletics, but listen, the college landscape in general. From 156 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: an institutional level, you can't overstate the impact was. They 157 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: maximize the impact because of how it was handled, when 158 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: the lever was pulled, when the trigger was pulled. When 159 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: they did it, other people were paying attention to that. 160 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: So we're coming up on Big ten media days, We're 161 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: coming up on SEC media days. I keep getting told 162 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: from people who are much more in the know on 163 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: this than me. 164 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: July July July. 165 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: I think there's a mid August date that technically, if 166 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: you're a Florida state and you want to get out 167 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: in time for twenty twenty five, you kind of need 168 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: to have the ball already down the hill by that point, 169 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: that's in the weeds. When would it be more opportune 170 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: to do this. It would be opportune in July. Now, 171 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: the question that is both valid and irrelevant to me 172 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: right now is how it is it's easy to talk. 173 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: How are they going to do it? Well, I don't know. 174 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: I do not know. That's not beating around the bush. 175 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm telling you I don't know because I'm not in 176 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: those conversations. But when you are told by enough people 177 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: who are privy to the conversations one way or another 178 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: this is going to happen, comes kind of irrelevant for me. 179 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: In other words, as long as I'm confident. 180 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: The Florida State is confident they're doing this one way 181 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: or another, I don't care how they do it. I 182 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: do care when they do it, and I think the 183 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: wind will be sooner rather than later, at least from 184 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: a news breaking standpoint. It's not just going to be 185 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: Florida State. Florida State is the face of this though. 186 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: I do want to address one thing though, because I've 187 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: had some disagreement on radio in the past week with 188 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: some folks about this, and Paul Feinbaum actually had a 189 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: quote about this. He was asked about the Big Ten 190 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: and Florida State may be going to the Big ten, 191 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: and he said something that he's not the first to say, 192 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people have expressed this sentiment, so I 193 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: did want to touch on this. He said, I know 194 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: Florida State thinks they're heavily in demand, but there are 195 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: some questions about what exactly they bring to the Big Ten. 196 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: Now he's referring to a few different things. You could 197 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: take it any of a number of ways, because he 198 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: kind of meant it every way. 199 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: Academically. 200 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: What he went on to not just suggest, but outright 201 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: say is they don't fit the Big Ten portfolio per se. 202 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: And that's just from an academic standpoint. Cardel Jones rolls 203 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: his eyes even as I say that. Also, he's saying, 204 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: the Big Ten's already plenty deep enough. 205 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: Do they need Florida State? 206 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: So I guess I disagree not only with the sentiment 207 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 1: that he's expressing. There A lot of people have suggested 208 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: that that Big ten doesn't need Florida State. 209 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: SEC don't need Florida State. 210 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Well, no, they don't need anything. I don't need to 211 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: eat tonight. I'd prefer to eat tonight. 212 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: I would make it. 213 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: I'd survive without dinner this evening. The Big Tens test 214 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: here if they have an opportunity to add a Florida 215 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: State to me, is about institution versus inventory. I'm a 216 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: believer that we're in sort of a postmodern world in 217 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: a lot of fronts when it comes to college athletics. 218 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: In college football realignment, for instance, back in the day 219 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: not too long ago, first off, academics mattered a whole lot, 220 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure we're in the institution centric model 221 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: that we once were with how athletics have been totally 222 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: carved out from the institution like they will be moving forward. 223 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: But number two, I'm not so sure that the grabbing 224 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: of media markets for the big ten in the SEC 225 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: matters nearly as much as it used to recruiting pipelines. Maybe, 226 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: but I even think that's overblown these days and moving forward. 227 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: What I think matters more than. 228 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: Anything is once you've got your media rights deals in line, 229 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: and once you've saturated to a pretty maximum effect depth 230 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: of team in your conference, you just go at inventory. 231 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: You've already secured the land, you've built the store. It's 232 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: bigger than any other store in town. You've got the 233 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: shelf space, don't you just look to put as much 234 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: quality product on the shelves as you can. That's what 235 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: adding Florida State does, or for that matter, that's what 236 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: adding a Miami or a Clemson or a North Carolina does, 237 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: not just in football, but I specifically care about foot 238 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: or let me dumb it down even more. Giving me 239 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: more Michigan versus Florida State is never a bad thing. 240 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: I don't care what the cumulative GPA is, nor does 241 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: anyone else. That ultimately has to do with how much 242 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: these deals are worth in the first place, because let's 243 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: not get it backwards. With all due respect to the 244 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: distinguished alumni, networks and the professors on campus there, the 245 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: reason that these things have so many zeros attached to 246 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: them is because you got folks who may have never 247 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: darkened the door of a classroom in ann Arboro, Tallahassee, 248 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: who are paying good money to not only buy TV networks, 249 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: buy packages, go to games. That's why this is worth 250 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: what it's worth. We're not stupid. We all understand that. 251 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: And if you can give me more of that, or 252 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,359 Speaker 1: in the sec if you can give me more Oklahoma 253 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: versus Florida State, that's inventory. That's what matters. I think 254 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: we may have movement on this in July. I think 255 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: we may have news coming on this in July. I 256 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: don't know for sure. That's not misleading, because I'm telling 257 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: you right now I don't know for sure. I have 258 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: a feeling that's somewhat guided that we may have something 259 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: moving on that in July. Welcome into the show tonight. 260 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: Are you tired of talking conference realignment? I kind of am. 261 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: But it's also exciting and intriguing because at least it's 262 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: an unknown. I have resigned myself to the idea that 263 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: a lot of these conferences are not going to be 264 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: what they once were. Morbidly, I am more curious about 265 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: what happens. 266 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 2: With the Big twelve. Big twelve may end up looking 267 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: great out of all this. We'll see what ifs. 268 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: We've got a bunch of what ifs on the show tonight, 269 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, because there is football to talk about. 270 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: And also let me switch that around. There we go. 271 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: I've got a very very deep show. I mean, listen 272 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: to how heavy this pack of papers is. Very deep 273 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: show tonight. So thank you so much for joining. If 274 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: you haven't, just make sure you subscribe to the channel. 275 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: That's the end. I'm not asking you for five things. Subscribe, 276 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: and then, in true recruiting fashion, here at pat State. 277 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: We need you to be five friends and have them 278 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: subscribe as well. Okay, here we go, speaking speaking of 279 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to call it America's Conference because that's 280 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: the Big twelve, but speaking maybe of the premier conference 281 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: in college football. Heavily debated in the comment section, let 282 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: me give you a little what if tonight, What if 283 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: the SEC does not cannibalize itself. What if the SEC 284 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: has like five or six teams that win double digit games. 285 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: Obviously it's the best case scenario for them. They got 286 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of teams Georgia, Texas, Bama, LSU, Ole, miss Missouri, Tennessee. 287 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: They all have over underwin totals of nine and a 288 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: half or higher. Certainly, there is not a world where 289 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: they all hit the over. But you know, maybe A 290 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: and M, or maybe Oklahoma surprise and hit their over 291 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: in exchange for Bama or LSU. Not point being, let's 292 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: just play it out for argument's sake. Here for a second, 293 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: twelve teams in the playoff this year, You've got your 294 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: auto bid, and then every other you know, you've got 295 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: four auto bids, and then we've got to fill the 296 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: playoff field with a larges So the other day, I asked, 297 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: what happens or what if the SEC cannibalizes itself and 298 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: the champs eleven and two and you just got a 299 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: bunch of eight and four, nine and three. 300 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: Well, this is the end verse of that. 301 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: What happens if there's this clear separation, there's almost like 302 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: a big Tier one, no Tier two, and there's just 303 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: a garbage Tier three. So you either won ten games 304 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: or you won six games. Unlikely but not impossible. What 305 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: would the playoff committee do? So I've got a theory 306 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: on this that I think bucks what most people think 307 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: would happen. It's unrealistic. But let's just say take the 308 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: same scenario. Let's say four teams win ten or more 309 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: and another two teams go nine and three, pretty much. 310 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: The same thing. 311 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: You're looking at a clump of half a dozen teams 312 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: there with either slam dunk or very strong playoff caliber resumes, 313 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: or half a dozen SEC teams going in the playoff. 314 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: Here's my theory. 315 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: A lot of unknown here because it's the first year 316 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: we've ever seen the Playoff Committee have to fill out 317 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: twelve teams in a format. I have a theory there 318 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: that if you're already four or five teams deep. I'm 319 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: not a believer in the SEC benefit of the doubt bump. 320 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: I actually believe the opposite. I believe if you already 321 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: got four or five teams in and there's another program 322 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: that has a playoff worthy resume, I actually think that 323 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: SEC affiliation may hurt them, it may victimize them. Whereas 324 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: if you just went blind resume and you looked at 325 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of these teams at the end of the year, 326 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: but you forced the playoff committee not to know who 327 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: they are. You don't get to see the team logo, 328 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: you don't get to see the conference affiliation. You just 329 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: have to look at their record, strength, to schedule metric, 330 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: whatever you value. I think they end up putting more 331 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: SEC or Big ten teams in. Then they'll end up 332 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: putting in in the early stages, and then I think 333 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: the SEC in the Big ten will become very aggravated 334 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: with that. 335 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: They'll say, they'll. 336 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: Say the quiet part out loud is that's not when 337 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: we expanded this thing. We expand this thing for more inclusion. 338 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: What's wrong with you people? 339 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: What if? 340 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: To me, it's one of the big overarching what ifs 341 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: in college football this year. These power conferences, and we 342 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: got two of them, two big power conferences. 343 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: What if they just. 344 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: Load this thing up, Well, everyone else won't like it, 345 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: but the two power players will be happy, SEC and 346 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: Big Ten. But if the SEC and Big Ten have 347 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: some what they deem to be playoff caliber resumes and 348 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: teams that are left out simply because the committee looks 349 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: around and says, well, we can't make it full of 350 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: just you guys, how do they respond? 351 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: The rest of college football will be happy about that, and. 352 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: They'd be able to, you know, take an actual breath 353 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: instead of being choked out like they believe in fear 354 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: they will be How would the SEC and Big ten 355 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: handle that this thing is not just etched in stone. 356 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: There's a lot that's still very exploratory about this. Next 357 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: up out west, What. 358 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: If USC's defense does not improve drastically this year. I 359 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: think the first thing that would happen come December is 360 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: I would trade places with a lot of USC folks. 361 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: Right now. 362 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: I've been very hautious with this, so I don't believe 363 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: they'll make these quantum leaps and bounds improvement defensively this year. 364 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: A lot of my USC viewers do, so they've been 365 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: calling me a trojan hater this and that. You know, 366 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: you can't just have an opinion on something if it's negative, 367 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: it has to come along with hate. 368 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: So USC hater here. 369 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: Well, what would happen would be the net result if 370 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: they do still underachieve defensively AUE in this year, despite 371 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: bringing D'Anton lenn across town, a guy who I believe 372 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: in the staff they put together. 373 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 2: I believe in them. Got no problem with that. 374 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: I don't think they have the players yet, so that's 375 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: the reason for me feeling how I feel. 376 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: But if they do end up. 377 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: Falling short and they don't live up to the hype 378 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: that a lot of the fan base has started to 379 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: generate for him, I'd be sitting here saying, this is 380 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: what you should have expected. But what will happen is 381 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: a lot of folks who I think are buying into 382 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: the year one defensive hype there would go completely opposite direction. 383 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: They'd freak out and they'd want changes. 384 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: They'd they'd be calling Lincoln Riley's job into question, and 385 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: I'd be sitting here in December saying, what are you doing? 386 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: That makes no sense? 387 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: And I'd be arguing with them, and it would sound 388 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: totally different than the arguments that have been going on 389 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: in June and July around here. This process takes time, Okay, 390 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: so this is reasonable to me. It's reasonable to expect 391 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: them to struggle defensively this year. To me, not to 392 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: the degree they did last year. They should be better. 393 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: But need I remind you how much better they have 394 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: to be to even scratch the surface of the top 395 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: fifty in defensive rankings. 396 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 2: You choose the metric, they weren't even close last year. 397 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: They were in the hundreds then most of the critical 398 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: defensive metrics, so they it takes time. Lincoln Riley will 399 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: not be afforded. That is my fear. It's not a 400 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: hot seat conversation. It's Riley got a few years in 401 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 1: and I'm a believer that when he left Oklahoma and 402 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: Alex Grinch decided to come with him, he understood, Man, 403 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: if this guy's gonna come with me, I got to 404 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: give him a couple of years at least. 405 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: And he did. 406 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: And you can call that a mistake or not. Alex 407 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: Grinch was not the best guy for the job, and 408 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: you maybe should have known that the day that Lincoln 409 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: Riley arrived in LA But that's the past. Even if 410 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: everything I'm saying is true, that's the past. Credit to 411 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: him for making the move and flushing the defensive staff 412 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: and hiring a new one that is world's better, world's better, 413 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: one of the most improved defensive staffs in the country. 414 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: Credit to him for that. How about let's now understand 415 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,239 Speaker 1: that if you're going to be realistic about this, it 416 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: has to include given him a couple of years. But 417 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: no one wants to talk like that when a head 418 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: coach is already on his third year at a school 419 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: at a current institution. So the way this will sound 420 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: is not well, USC's defense still struggled. 421 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: But don't worry. 422 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: It's just the first year of sort of the remodeled program. 423 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: He'll get it figured out. It won't sound like that. 424 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: What it will sound like is in year four or 425 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: year three or whatever he's in, Lincoln Riley's USC has 426 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: now gotten worse every year. 427 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: That's what it'll sound like. 428 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: And for broad Strokes' purposes, that will be true if 429 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: that's the way it goes, And then if they don't 430 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: pick it up in recruiting, if they continue to bleed 431 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: in recruiting. That same person who says that is going 432 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: to look at the recruiting class and say dot and 433 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it's gonna get much better. Because 434 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: you remember those two big defensive linemen that we talked 435 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: about a couple of weeks ago who were committed at 436 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: that time, they're not committed anymore. And there's a quarterback 437 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: who's very loose in that class as well. So if 438 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: they don't backfill with quality candidates, then look, there'll be 439 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: a lot of earned criticism. I'm not trying to carry 440 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: water for Lincoln Riley. A lot of that will be earned. 441 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: Of course, this is entirely hypothetical. They could go eleven 442 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: and one and shut everyone up this year. But if 443 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: it doesn't just magically come together defensively, wouldn't be the 444 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: most shocking thing in the world. I actually don't expect 445 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 1: it to. And as a result, if they're sitting there seven, five, 446 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: eight and four, it doesn't mean he made the wrong moves. 447 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: It may just mean there was no move you could 448 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: make in their personnel situation and have a top twenty defense. 449 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: You know, the EA sportsifocation of USC's defense is pretty 450 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: unlikely to happen this year. Third, what if hop a 451 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: jet all the way across the country. What if Kyen 452 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: Drones it's quarterback of Virginia Tech. What if he leads 453 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: them to a top five rushing offense. Does anyone realize 454 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: what that would mean? What kind of tremor effect that 455 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: would have in the ACC. You're used to talking about 456 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: FSU as you should be, Clemson as you should be. 457 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: Miami sort of snaked their way into the conversation this year. 458 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: But if you look at the odds to win the ACC, 459 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: if you go over to FanDuel. 460 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: You get past those first three, you got Louisville in there. 461 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: You know you got NC State in there, but you 462 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: don't get too much further down the list before you 463 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: see Virginia Tech. And there's not this massive drop off 464 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: in the odds before you get to Virginia Tech. What 465 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: are odds makers seeing there? Well, if you were to 466 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: promise me Kien Drones a quarterback is part of a 467 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: top five rushing offense, you would see a contender to 468 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: win the ACC because you look elsewhere on this team 469 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: and they will not have to spend a whole lot 470 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: of September figuring themselves out. It's a veteran laden roster. 471 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: They return four offensive linemen. They're leading running back returns 472 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: on top of Kyrien Jones. They got a top ten 473 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: overall team in terms of returning production. It's a good defense, 474 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: it's a good pass rush. They should have potentially an 475 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: elite run game this year. Their schedule is very manageable, 476 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: and Virginia Tech's the kind of team who could sneak 477 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: up on you, but shouldn't be able to sneak up 478 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: on you because a lot of the indicators are there 479 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: with this team now. I know that they would prefer 480 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: the country not realize that, but part of being a 481 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: contender is being able to perform when expectation is there. 482 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 1: They've got a game at Miami the last week of September, 483 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: and they got a game with Rutgers the week before that. 484 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: I'm not overlooking, but that's not a conference game. 485 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: They open conference play at Miami, and I don't think 486 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: anyone in the ACC is really focused on that game 487 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: so much right now. Miami folks are focused on their 488 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: game at Florida. Clemson folks are talking about FSU and 489 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: vice versa, and FSU is talking about Miami, and there's 490 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: just not a whole lot of chatter right now outside 491 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: of certain confines about Virginia Tech. And you know what 492 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: I think there should be. This is a buzz up 493 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: there that's been pretty bottled up. We were up there 494 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: in the spring. I watched I went up there and 495 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: watched a practice, talked with most of the staff, no 496 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: cockiness whatsoever that they know, they know, they're still they're 497 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: still pretty thin in certain parts of the roster. 498 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: There was a There. 499 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: Was an effort by Brent Pry and his staff that 500 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: I need you to understand had to be started from scratch. 501 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: The concept of Virginia Tech keeping key talent in Virginia 502 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: home used to be taken for granted, and the previous 503 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 1: staff did not maximize that effort to put it lightly 504 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: to the point where not only you know, were your 505 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: Ohio State's able to come into Virginia and take elite talent. 506 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: That's Ohio State. 507 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: That's one thing, But dude, South Carolina or Penn State 508 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: coming in and just plucking guys as they saw fit 509 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: and Virginia Tech not even putting up a fight. That 510 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 1: hit the reset button essentially on in state recruiting. And 511 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: this is not Alabama, Okay, Virginia Tech's not a national 512 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: recruiting program. So in order to rebuild essentially the backbone 513 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: of the program, they've had to rebuild their in state 514 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: recruiting infrastructure, which is never a sentence that should have 515 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: to come out of my mouth, but it has. 516 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: Well. 517 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: They got the right cats up there to do it. 518 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: It's just not an overnight process. But now you get 519 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: another year in and think about what that would do. 520 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: Think about what kind of giant billboard that would be 521 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: if they end up being the surprise team in the 522 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: ACC this year. 523 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: So those are three what ifs for me. 524 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: Not done with what IFFs because we're doing them every show, 525 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: but those are some on my mind. Academy sports and outdoors, 526 00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: I would argue should always. 527 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: Be on one one's mind. Me you, you. 528 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: Know, the combinations are endless. There should be on your mind. 529 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: Here's why this week and this month is sort of 530 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: the pinnacle for outdoor activity. I would say even for 531 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: people like us, you know, people like us, people who 532 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: talk for a living, or if you write for a living, 533 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: if you cover a sport, even for you, this is 534 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: the time of year where you can maximize your outdoors time. 535 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: And you need gear, you need equipment, you need literal 536 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: clothing to wear. Why spend more than you need to 537 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: for lame looking gear when you can get the legit 538 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: stuff probably for less in most cases at Academy Sports 539 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: and Outdoors. And here's the other kicker. If you're watching 540 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: or listening to the show, I trust that you enjoy 541 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: it at least to some degree, and I appreciate you 542 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: guys for watching. 543 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 2: They make it free for you. 544 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: There are a lot of shows out there who have 545 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: to ask you to subscribe with money. 546 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: I ask you to sub but it's free. 547 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: You don't have to pay anything here because if partners 548 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: like Academy, and we appreciate them, they've been with us 549 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: for a long time. If you can't get to an 550 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: Academy Sports Outdoors inperson, Academy dot com, they got your hookup. 551 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: I need to pause. Oh, get my public's jug over here. 552 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes we have a chalice on set, sometimes we have 553 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: a cup on set, and sometimes we just go straight 554 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: hobo and we drink out of full water jugs. And 555 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: tonight is Hobo Sunday. So I thank you for bearing 556 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: with me because I have something I think is very 557 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: important to talk to you about. Because I think we're 558 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: gonna end up clipping this one like this This is 559 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: highly likely to be a segment that I asked Colin 560 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: two years from now to pull up. 561 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: So I wanted to be. 562 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: Hydrated for it, and I don't want my nose to 563 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: itch and it does right now. 564 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 2: All right, there we go. 565 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: What do you think about Dan Lanning at Oregon? I've 566 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: been getting some weird comments on Dan Lanning. It kind 567 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: of hit a crescendo today, so I figured i'd toss 568 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: it in the show tonight. There's a weird thing happening 569 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: with him. It's sort of a weird modern thing that 570 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: happens in college football. This dude has been a head 571 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: coach all of two years, going into his third year 572 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: now at Oregon. He is twenty two and five as 573 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: a head coach, not a typo, got two top fifteen finishes. 574 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: They're recruiting at a top five level, maybe better this 575 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: point moving forward. They've been assassins in the transfer a 576 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: portal And so I say that to someone who doesn't 577 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: know any better, and they'd say, that sounds great. This 578 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: guy sounds like one of the best head coaches in 579 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: the game. That's good, right, Nope, Nope not. According to 580 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: trusted Internet sources, it's not. I put out a tweet 581 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: today and I said, uh, let me actually. 582 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: Get you the exact quote. 583 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: It was a classic filling the blank. What a revolutionary 584 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: concept I came up with. There, fill in the blank, 585 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: Dan Lannings next five years will blank. Got a ton 586 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: of comments, got a ton of attraction on this. Here 587 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: were some words. The word can't was involved a lot. 588 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: He can't win the big game. That won't change. He 589 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 1: never will. You know, O're gonall just be talented, but 590 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: they never will get over the hump. They'll choke against 591 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: better teams. What has he won? You know the age 592 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: old go to there? What is he won two years? 593 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 1: Dude's been a head coach two years. He can't, he won't, 594 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: he never will. These people are not joking. I saw 595 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: budd Ellie going back and forth with someone today and 596 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: the dude was just saying, well, Dan Lanning always always 597 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: what Dan. 598 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: Lanning doesn't always even park in the same spot. 599 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: At the football facility. He hasn't been there long enough. 600 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: So anyway, the book's apparently been written on Dan Lanning. 601 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: You remember how I explained wish casting to you the 602 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: other day. 603 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: It happens. It's happening with Dan Lanning. Here's some truth 604 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: serum for you. 605 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: I think a lot of the Big Ten, if they're 606 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: smart enough, should be fairly terrified with Whatan's doing right now. 607 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: But they don't want to be. 608 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: Just like me, growing up in Georgia, as a winter 609 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: weather fan, did not want to accept the fact that 610 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: it was going to be sixty eight degrees on Christmas Day. 611 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: I wanted a white Christmas. So what did I do? 612 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: Never mind the fact that it's the first week of 613 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: December and there is no dependable long term forecast out, 614 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: I just start blindly believing it's going to snow this Christmas. 615 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: This is the Christmas forts in Georgia. It's going to 616 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: snow this Christmas. December tenth, December fifteenth, December twentieth, The 617 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: fifteen ten five day forecast. 618 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: Not looking good. 619 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 1: But I just wish cast it, you know, because that's 620 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: how snow actually happens. Well, sure enough, Christmas morning, rooster crows, 621 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: sixty three degrees and sunny. What happened the same thing 622 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: that's happening to those foolish enough to think. Dan Landing, 623 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: all of two years in has taught you everything you 624 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: need to know about what he and Oregon will be 625 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: as both the head coach and a program moving forward. 626 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: So I am to believe that two years in, since 627 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: this dude has lost a couple of games to Washington, 628 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: since he got boat raced by Georgia in game one 629 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: of year one as. 630 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: A head coach, that's it. That's it. 631 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: We've learned everything we need to know, because the one 632 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: thing we know about Nick Saban, for example, is he 633 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: never lost early in his career. 634 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: Did he getting word Nick Saban lost plenty? 635 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: In fact, I'm getting word Nick Saban wasn't remotely what 636 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: you know Nick Saban as until years into his coaching career. 637 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: We don't afford guys the time to do that anymore. 638 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: I guess I got a story for you. Once upon 639 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: a time, this is worth worth the paper. 640 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: Pop here. 641 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: Once upon a time there was a head coach that 642 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: got his shot, and he was a promising up and comer, 643 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: pretty big name in the assistant coaching world, a really 644 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: good recruiter, and he took this new job, high profile job, 645 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: and he won pretty quickly, and he recruited at a 646 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: very high level, and it had amazing intensity and energy, 647 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: and the program quickly came to adopt his energy and 648 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: his identity. 649 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: However, there were critics. 650 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: There were critics who, after a few chances in big 651 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: games where they came up short, said he just can't 652 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: win the big one. 653 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: He just can't get it. They just can't get over 654 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: the hump. And this dude's name was Kirby Smart. 655 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: And no one who was ignorant enough to say it 656 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: about him at the time is ever around to admit 657 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: they said it. But I promise you they said it 658 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: about this man. They said he can't get over the hump, 659 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: he can't win the big one. Georgia's just they compared 660 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: him to Mark Richt Jesse. You remember this right. Colin 661 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: was with me the first time we ever did this 662 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: show in Nashville at twenty four to seven and CBS 663 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: at the time, one of our first shows we did. 664 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: It was because people. 665 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: Were floating around one of these popular graphics that used 666 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: to circulate the internet for some reason, I don't see 667 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: him anymore, and it was this split screen and it 668 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: was Kirby Smart's first first fill in the blank years 669 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: and it was Mark Rick's first filling the blank years. 670 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: And they looked really similar. The numbers looked really similar, 671 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: and it was supposed to lead you to believe that 672 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: Georgia fired Mark Rickton just got Mark Rick two point zero. 673 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: By the way, that's not a terrible thing, because Rick 674 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: wasn't a terrible coach. 675 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: But the point was that graphic doesn't get circulated anymore 676 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: because the same people who use words like can't and 677 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: won't ever, they're the same people who make that graphic 678 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: not understanding there's a big difference between have not and cannot. 679 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart had not won a title at that point. 680 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: He has since won multiples and probably not done winning them. 681 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: Dan Lanning right now, there's a lot of things he 682 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: has not done yet that maybe cannot is the wrong 683 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: word for. They aren't stopping, is all I know at Oregon. 684 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: The effort right now, the stacking of elite recruiting classes 685 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: is not gonna stop. I don't even know if they'll 686 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: make the playoff this year. Will I'd be willing to 687 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: bet they are. I don't know if they'll win the 688 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: Big Ten in year one. I'd be willing to bet 689 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: they'll be a big factor in it. Even if they don't. 690 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't care if they go nine and three and 691 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: miss out on the thing entirely. This year they'll be 692 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: right back in the conversation next year, and then the 693 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: year after that and the year after that, because they're 694 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: not a window program. 695 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 2: Oregon once upon a time was kind of fashioned as a. 696 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: Place where if you build, and you build, and you build, 697 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: you look two years down the road, you can circle 698 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: that year and say, all right, well we got this team. 699 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: If we can hold it together, and we may have 700 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: a puncher's chance that year. That's not organ anymore because 701 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: Dan Lanning did what I thought was impossible. He built 702 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: an SEC program on the West coast. The last one 703 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: to remotely come close to doing something like that was 704 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll in the early two thousands, and that's when 705 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: that term SEC program didn't even mean what it means now, 706 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: because the SEC is a conference was not then what 707 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: it ended up becoming and what it long since has 708 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: been now. Lanning's exposure to head coaches has included working 709 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: under Nick Saban and working under Kirby Smart, And if 710 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: you were to copy paste those guys and drop it 711 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: in Eugene, Oregon, you'd basically have Dan Lanning. So they 712 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: nailed their coaching higher. He is returned and returned and 713 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: returned on that investment in the way of building a 714 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: roster that's going to be a sustainable year over year contender. 715 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: And what you do is the same thing you do 716 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: it Bama, same thing you do it Georgia, same thing 717 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: you do at Ohio State. You get the best players. 718 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: You got to be relentless. You can never have too 719 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: many you can. It's like watching a squirrel store up 720 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: nuts for the winner. You feel those cheeks as much 721 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: as you can, or in this case, you feel that 722 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: roster as much as you can. You got to be 723 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: as selfish and as cutthroat as possible because injury happens. 724 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 2: But also you're eventually. 725 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: Going to go toe to toe with one of the 726 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: few other programs in America that recruit the same way 727 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: you do. All due respect, they're not stacking this roster 728 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: because they got to face Purdue. They're stacking that roster 729 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: because they gotta face Georgia one day. They got to 730 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: face Ohio State, they gotta face Texas, they got to 731 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: go through Alabama. They knew who they have to go through. 732 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: They'll be in that conversation every year. Anyone who suggests 733 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: otherwise is suggesting it a lot more out of wishing 734 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: than guided knowledge. So I took it upon myself to 735 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: bookmark a whole lot of this stuff today because a 736 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: lot of the things that I think they have not 737 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: done so far are about to get crossed off a 738 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: list in the not too distant future. And then what 739 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: do you say, let's talk about Phil Knight. I guess 740 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: talking about Nike, you know, as if that's not part 741 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: of the game these days. 742 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 2: I don't know. 743 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: Anyway, let's move on. Let us move on. I know 744 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: from certain corners of the industry. I'm gonna get some 745 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: feedback on that. When that's okay, though, make sure you 746 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: are subscribed though. If you're watching and you're not already, 747 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, there were some big goings on today in 748 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: college football. 749 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if you were paying attention. 750 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 1: I don't really, Jesse. I don't get the sense most 751 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: people knew. Today was the day, or maybe tomorrow borrow. 752 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: July first is the day officially that Texas and OU 753 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: joined the SEC. So we had a tweet right on 754 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: Q We had a tweet about Texas and OU, but 755 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: not about them joining the SEC per se. It was 756 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: it was about this perception that I think is real. 757 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: I think the perception at least is real about Texas 758 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: and OU. So one of you ask Colin, here's a 759 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: good endpoint for you. One of you asked as Texas 760 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: and O you enter the SEC Monday officially, Why is 761 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 1: there this perceived gap between Oklahoma and then several levels 762 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: and then Texas. Why is everyone treating it like it's 763 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: Texas end paragraph, start new paragraph and Oklahoma? I think 764 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: I have some reasons, but this is not invalid. If 765 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: you feel that way, if you live in Oklahoma, you're 766 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: an Oklahoma fan, that's valid. That absolutely is how it's 767 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: being presented. The over underwent total FanDuel this year for 768 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: Texas ten and a half. Oh you seven and a half. 769 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: So it's not just a media thing or a fan 770 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: thing or an Internet thing. It's a Vegas thing too. 771 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: This is in relation to this year's teams, of course 772 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to Vegas. But the perception is Texas 773 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: as a program different level than Oklahoma. And what's crazy 774 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: is a lot of times, year over year we have 775 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: new people come to the sport, and I can see 776 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: in our audience metrics you've got different ways to detect 777 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 1: whether people have watched for a long time or whether 778 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: they're pretty new, and I picture someone new. I picture 779 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 1: someone from from good old ENID, Oklahoma, who You've always 780 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: rooted for Oklahoma, but you don't really immerse yourself. But 781 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: this year you've chosen to take the leap. Welcome, We're 782 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: happy to have you. You may be sensing this. Oh, 783 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: they think Texas is way better than us. It must 784 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: be because of on field results. Right No, Oklahoma is 785 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: seven and three in the last ten against Texas. They 786 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: are eleven and five four in their last fifteen against Texas. Well, 787 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: they must have won more titles at Texas then, Right No, 788 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: Oklahoma's got a fourteen to four lead in conference titles 789 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety six. 790 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 2: That was in the Big Twelve. Now they're coming to 791 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: the SEC. Okay, Josh, Well. 792 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: Certainly then, most recently, Texas must be just recruiting at 793 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: a different level than Oklahoma. The last five years, Texas 794 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: has averaged a class ranked seven point four. Oklahoma's has 795 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: averaged being ranked ninth. Not a huge gap in recruiting. Well, 796 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,959 Speaker 1: what about the portal, Josh, Texas has done good there, Yeah, 797 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: Oklahoma's done better. So they've got the head to head, 798 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: They've got history on their side. Both recently and more 799 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: long term recruiting has been pretty comparable. Portal has been 800 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: edge Oklahoma. Where in the world is the perceived gap 801 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: coming from. I think three things are in play. There's 802 00:39:54,680 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: bias towards Texas that I think is undeniable. Number two, 803 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of recency bias. And what 804 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: they do is they don't think back to the Red 805 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: River shootout last year. If they did that, that, no, 806 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: Oklahoma won the game. More recent than that, what did 807 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: we see last year? We saw Texas make the playoff, 808 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: which fulfilled on a lot of predictions that people have 809 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: been making year over year over year over year, and 810 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: finally Texas made some folks look smart and they love 811 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: them for it. But the thing about it is Oklahoma 812 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: won double digit games last year as well, and there 813 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 1: were a couple of one possession losses that stood between 814 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: them and maybe doing a whole lot more than just 815 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: a nice solid Bowl game. But I think at the 816 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: core of all this, for some reason, the stink of 817 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: Brent Venables first year and his record being six and 818 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 1: seven still lingers, much more so than Start going five 819 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,760 Speaker 1: and seven his first year. That was a year prior 820 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: than Brent Venables first year. But also Texas has a 821 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: playoff appearance, and that playoff appearance, whether it should or not, 822 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: it just washes every one's memory clean. Whereas Oklahoma had 823 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 1: a nice year last year, ten and three last year, 824 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: what in the playoff appearance? Though playoff appearances are magical. 825 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: How Having said that, though if I were Brenton Venables, 826 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: I wouldn't change a thing. Oklahoma thinks they have their 827 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: guy for the long haul. That's why they just locked 828 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: him up with an extended contract last week. Brent Venables 829 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: is not showing an ounce of doubt. They're totally resolute 830 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: in their approach. In fact, I would imagine the year 831 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: one to year two improvement from two years ago to 832 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: last year. He probably never doubted much, but I think 833 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: it may have reinforced that he's the right guy and 834 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: his way is the right way, and trust him when 835 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: it comes to the rest of the organization. Then it 836 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: becomes a whole lot easier to sell on the transfer 837 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: portal circuit. With guys like Dion Burk's coming in from Purdue, 838 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: who could be an instant game changer will be I 839 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: think if he's healthy this year at Oklahoma, they get 840 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: to play him every year. See, that's the thing about 841 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: rivalries in college football. When you don't have people in 842 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: suits get in the way, you get to play them 843 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: every year on the field. Oklahoma points spread underdog, they 844 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: will be won't matter, just like Michigan with Ohio State. 845 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: That matters long as long as they got to have 846 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: us for sixty. As long as we get our shot. 847 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: And October twelfth, that's when it happens. A three week stretch. There, 848 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: three game stretch. There's a bye week baked in here. 849 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: But how about this. Oklahoma opens conference play against Tennessee 850 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: at home. They go to Jordan Hare in Auburn the 851 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: very next week, bye week, Then they got Texas in Dallas. Yeah, 852 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: it's an SEC schedule, gonna be fun to watch. But yeah, 853 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't think there's the massive gap. But I get 854 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: suckered into blindly believing in it a little bit as well. 855 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: So I won't say I'm immune to it. I just 856 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: think every good thing Texas does gets amplified a little 857 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: more than every good thing Oklahoma does. 858 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 2: There's no other way to explain it. 859 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 1: There is just a pro Texas bias that is baked 860 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: into the college football ether. But I'm telling you if 861 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm not, I didn't go up a fan of either 862 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: one of these programs. If I had to choose a 863 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: side of that equation, I'd actually embrace the Oklahoma side. 864 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: I'd actually embrace folks doubting constantly and after every year 865 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: or an extended period of years, no matter how much 866 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: we prove ourselves. It's like people get amnesia every summer. 867 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: That just means you got to go reprove yourself year 868 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 1: over year. But hey, complacency never an issue when everyone 869 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: dowed you constantly. Complacency is never an issue. That's my 870 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: best guess. That's my best explainer as to why that 871 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: perceived gap is there. But hey, quick, quick note, as 872 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: long as the perception doesn't become reality, you'll be fine, 873 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: and it will even make the seasons more fun for you. 874 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: I need to in a very rare move. In fact, 875 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,399 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever said this sentence on the air. 876 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,479 Speaker 1: I need to circle back to something I said about 877 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: the college football video. 878 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 2: Game the other day. Yeah, yeah, I know. 879 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 1: I did get good feedback from many of you who 880 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: never played deo games, who said that was actually a 881 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: really informative segment. Well, that's the only way I'm going 882 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: to talk about the EA Sports College Football twenty five 883 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: video game on this show. Is if I can make 884 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: it interesting to people who never pick up a controller, 885 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: because otherwise it's a niche conversation and a waste of time. 886 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: So believe me, friends, believe me, this will interest you, 887 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 1: whether you're a gamer or not. EA Sports College Football 888 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: twenty five. It launches in about twenty days, and it's 889 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: going to be It's going to be a holiday. There 890 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: are no two ways about it. It is the biggest thing 891 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: happening in the college football space. Whether you play or 892 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: not understand it's a huge deal. It's a tsunami in 893 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: terms of a lot of things. So I want to 894 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 1: touch on this for a second. But first, the power 895 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: rating shook you guys. Thursday I talked about the offensive 896 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: and defensive ratings they had released. Well, they released just 897 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 1: outright team power ratings. I think it was Friday. This 898 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,479 Speaker 1: is the way teams will be ranked in the game. 899 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: And I am in Nashville, Tennessee. So for the next 900 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: couple of minutes, I just need to go full Rocky Top. 901 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: I need to be a Tennessee Homer. I don't know 902 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: what's happening. Honestly, don't know what's happening. Tennessee was not 903 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,879 Speaker 1: a top twenty five offense, Tennessee's not a top twenty 904 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: five defense, Tennessee is not a top twenty five team 905 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 1: in the rankings? Or is there a probation in the game, 906 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: like is Tennessee legitimately on EA? 907 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,439 Speaker 2: Probation? Is that a thing? 908 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: Jesse, I haven't played the game in a while. Is 909 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: that a thing? I don't know what other explanation there is. 910 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: So Tennessee has their own just barrel full of issues 911 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: to figure out between themselves in this game. Either the 912 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: folks at EA know something about this year's Tennessee team 913 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: that none of us know, or this is going to 914 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: be like an entire Denny's worth of egg on the 915 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,399 Speaker 1: face of the fine folks who we love that are 916 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: responsible for such things at EA. Secondly, guess who is 917 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: in the top twenty five? Yes, who's in the top twenty? 918 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,800 Speaker 2: Colorado's up there, Colorado number sixteen. 919 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: Josh, that's just a marketing ploy. Maybe it is, Like 920 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 1: I just said, I'm not sure. Perhaps the folks that 921 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: EA know something about Dion Sanders team that none of 922 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: the rest of us know if Colorado's a top twenty team. 923 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 1: I sure don't know that. So Colorado's up there, ole 924 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: Miss at fifteen. I mean, I am to believe that 925 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: if we were to take the neutral field implication here, 926 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: that Ole Miss in Colorado would be a virtual pick 927 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,320 Speaker 1: them on a neutral field. We all know that's insanity, 928 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 1: but if EA Sports rankings hold up, that would be 929 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 1: the case. That would be a big headline. Clemson's at 930 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: number six. Clemson is the top ranked team in the ACC, 931 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: and I am trying to so Florida State's at twelve, 932 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: Miami's at thirteen. So Clemson a ninety overall right there 933 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,839 Speaker 1: with Texas Notre Dame. Fascinating stuff, But that's not the 934 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: only reason I wanted to talk to you about this tonight. 935 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 1: I can't overstate the impact this has on the absolute 936 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: youngest of generations. So any given cycle in college football, 937 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 1: there is a group of people age ten to seventeen 938 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 1: or ten to twenty who are in their first generation 939 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,399 Speaker 1: of really being a college football fan enough to where 940 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: they understand what's going on. Well, the past couple of generations, 941 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,919 Speaker 1: past generation, really they didn't have the game, and video 942 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: games serve as a front door for a lot of 943 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: people who otherwise would just never find college football. And 944 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: I know if you don't play this stuff, you don't 945 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: understand that folks who play it know exactly what I'm 946 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: talking about. 947 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 2: You assume that if there's a thirteen year old kid out. 948 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 1: There who picks up this game this year and ends 949 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 1: up becoming a diehard college football fan because of exposure 950 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: to the game, you may assume, oh, he otherwise would 951 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: have found the game anyway, not necessarily. Not necessarily the 952 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: way media works in the modern age, even though there's 953 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: a lot more of it out there. Therefore, you would 954 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: I think there's more chance for you to be exposed 955 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 1: to or interact with. The thing is it actually creates 956 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 1: just bigger ISO chambers. So algorithmically, big tech platforms find 957 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: out what you like and they serve you a whole 958 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: bunch more of that. So you're getting more thrown in 959 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: your face. But it's just reinforcing more of the same thing. 960 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: And so I'm saying that to say there are a 961 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 1: lot of kids out there that if the algo doesn't 962 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 1: pick up on the idea that they want college football, 963 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: it'll never give it to them. They're not watching traditional 964 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,839 Speaker 1: linear television, so they're not gonna see advertising the same 965 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: way that you would have seen it thirty years ago 966 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: via a commercial or a billboard or whatnot. Video games 967 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: are a door for a thirteen year old to find 968 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: his or her way into college football that otherwise wouldn't 969 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: have existed. Quantum impact on the sport and its watchability. 970 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: But also it comes with the downside, and I'm preparing 971 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: you for this now, it's gonna hurt us all we're 972 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: gonna have to cope because it is a necessary evil. 973 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: You will never have seen a flood of people questioning 974 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: play calling more than they will this year in college football, 975 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 1: and it will not matter that they cannot talk their 976 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 1: way out of a wet paper bag when it comes 977 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,760 Speaker 1: to actual chalk talk exes and o's. These are people 978 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 1: who believe that because they just beat NC State twenty 979 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: seven to twenty plan is Virginia Tech on EA Sports 980 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,240 Speaker 1: CFB twenty five that they called a game, they chose 981 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 1: the plays. Therefore, they did virtually the same thing that 982 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator does in Lane Stadium on Saturday. Some 983 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 1: of you are laughing. 984 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 2: You should be. 985 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: It is a joke, But I'm not joking it's coming 986 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: back now. People have always questioned play calling, but for 987 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: this game to have been out of the ether for 988 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: a while, it gave us several years where people questioning 989 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: play calling mainly just came from folks who think they 990 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: know more than they really do. But now you have 991 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 1: a mechanism that's going to reinforce the idea that they 992 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,800 Speaker 1: know more than they really do. So questioning play calling 993 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: I think will increase three or four hundred percent this 994 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: year online. It'll mainly be online. And so I have 995 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 1: this entire concept and I'm just waiting. I got coordinators 996 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: that listen to the show. I'm just waiting for one 997 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: of you guys whose head coaches allow you to talk. 998 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: If you want extra money, not that you guys are 999 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 1: hurting for it, but if you want extra money, I 1000 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: have an idea for a show where you confront fans 1001 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 1: who legitimately are willing to question your play calling to 1002 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: your face, and it's no filter, it's no holds barred. 1003 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: I'll get the thing sold by tomorrow if any of 1004 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: you are willing to do this, But I want you 1005 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,720 Speaker 1: to just school people are who are willing to be schooled. 1006 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: They're asking for it. This is like the old Pros 1007 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 1: Versus Joe's show that they did, where you just you 1008 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,439 Speaker 1: found these folks who legitimately thought they could hit major 1009 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: league pitching, or they legitimately thought that they could tackle 1010 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 1: an NFL running back in the open field. Make them 1011 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,479 Speaker 1: prove it. And so in this world you got folks 1012 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: who want to question your play calling. Make some extra 1013 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: money off Duncan on them. It's gonna be a fun year. 1014 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun year for us. All All right, 1015 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,280 Speaker 1: let's move on. There was a rule got a big 1016 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: rule change in college football that I did want to 1017 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 1: touch on. 1018 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 2: Some of you asked about it. 1019 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,879 Speaker 1: I wasn't really going to discuss it, but the more 1020 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: I went through the latter part of last week, I 1021 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,240 Speaker 1: had some people reach out. 1022 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 2: To me about this. 1023 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 1: In like all different walks of football, and this is 1024 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: a big deal. So there was a there was an 1025 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,280 Speaker 1: NCAA rule change this past week that impacts coaching staffs. 1026 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: It's a really really big deal for me, for you, 1027 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: for everybody. Something really really big. A couple of things 1028 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: that are really big that are going to come off 1029 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 1: of this. So the NCAA rule change, it essentially removed 1030 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,800 Speaker 1: the cap on how many staffers can coach on the field. 1031 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: So it used to be that you had your your ten, 1032 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, allotted staff spots, and even in practice, like 1033 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 1: you can't have people who aren't quote unquote on the 1034 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: coaching staff participating in coaching on the field. It was 1035 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 1: a joke because most programs had staffers that were all 1036 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,879 Speaker 1: over the place at practices. I've said at practice before 1037 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 1: and as soon as they close that gate to the 1038 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: local media an army like kicking over an ant hill, 1039 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 1: they come right out of the tunnel, right out of 1040 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: the complex. And so not everyone was going by this rule. However, 1041 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: there were certain things you absolutely couldn't do that you 1042 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: can do now. Now there's a downside to this. I'm 1043 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: gonna explain both things, both sides of the coin here. 1044 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 2: The downside is at someone who is really really involved 1045 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 2: in sort of the business end of coaching reach out 1046 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 2: and say FCS staffs are screwed. 1047 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 1: G five staffs are screwed. You guys never get good headlines. 1048 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 1: I know what this does is you're Clemsons of the world, 1049 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: your Florida's, you're LSU's folks with the biggest budgets. The 1050 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: NCAA just told them there's no limit to how many 1051 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 1: coaches you can have on your staff, many as you want, 1052 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: many as you want. And so what you can do 1053 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,320 Speaker 1: now is you can go find the wide receiver coach 1054 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 1: at a G program. You could probably afford to give 1055 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: him one hundred percent raise to just come be an 1056 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: analyst or be a down the line coach on your staff, 1057 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,880 Speaker 1: and he won't have that same title. But what he 1058 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: is getting is he's getting real world, on field, hands 1059 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 1: on resume building experience at a major program. I think 1060 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 1: there'll be a flood of that happening. Not right now, 1061 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 1: cause staffs are kind of set for this year, but 1062 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: come December and January, those programs are gonna get rated. 1063 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: That's not a good thing. However, be that as it may. 1064 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 1: If it's gonna happen, this will have I think, a 1065 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: very very huge benefit on a chronic problem that has 1066 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 1: been facing coaches, and it's burnout that a lot of 1067 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: people don't care about because a lot of them get 1068 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: paid a lot of money. And you also don't see 1069 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: the day to day. You see him coach on Saturdays, 1070 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: you see him talk to the media. But what college 1071 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: football had become was totally untenable. There were good people 1072 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 1: just outright leaving the sport. A lot of other ones 1073 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: trying to go to the NFL to get away from 1074 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 1: college because college was unworkable right now in the NFL 1075 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 1: was preferable. Pro football should not be easier to do 1076 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: than college for a coach, but yet that's the way 1077 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: it's been lately. Well, now, think about this huge win 1078 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:16,399 Speaker 1: for staffers right now as it stands. If I'm Ryan Day, 1079 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: if I'm Kirby Smart, and I want my defensive line coach, 1080 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 1: I need a guy who can recruit my linebackers, coach, 1081 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 1: my wide receivers coach. By and large, I can't be 1082 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 1: working around their recruiting and inadequacy. I need them to 1083 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,320 Speaker 1: be able to recruit. 1084 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 2: Now, there are. 1085 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 1: Instances where you know guys are so good at their 1086 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 1: position coaching that you work around it. 1087 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 2: They're not good recruiters, you don't send them out, but 1088 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 2: by and large you do. You don't have to do 1089 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 2: it anymore. 1090 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 1: Really, if you want to, and you're really ready to 1091 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 1: invest the money, you can go line up your coaching 1092 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,399 Speaker 1: staff and you can have five or six of them. 1093 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 1: Never hit the road recruiting if you don't really want 1094 00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 1: them to. You can just totally prioritize football. I have 1095 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: them totally prioritized football, and you can have an entire 1096 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: roster full of all star recruiters. As long as they 1097 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 1: consistently coach on the field, which is the rule, you 1098 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: can send them out recruiting. I think it's going to 1099 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: really really change the way that head coaches and general 1100 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 1: managers with head coaches build these staffs, again to the 1101 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 1: detriment of SCS programs in G five programs, But I 1102 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 1: also think it gets rid of disparity and enforcement. So 1103 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: let me tell you now that this is not a 1104 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 1: rule anymore. Yeah, okay, it's not a rule anymore. So 1105 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: I'll be a little more loose on this couple of things. 1106 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: This was happening at practices. It's not a coincidence that 1107 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 1: practices became more closed off to the media in the 1108 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,280 Speaker 1: last decade or so. 1109 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 2: COVID had a lot to do with that. 1110 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 1: And then some places said we're just not going to 1111 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 1: open it back up. But really, there was another thing 1112 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,879 Speaker 1: that happens at college football practices that they didn't want 1113 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,319 Speaker 1: local media seeing, and that is a lot of folks 1114 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 1: who technically aren't allowed under NCAA rule to coach on 1115 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 1: the field. We're coaching on the field because there was 1116 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: no way to get a team ready doing it the 1117 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 1: way the NCAA dictated you had to do it. 1118 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 2: Well, here was the problem. 1119 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 1: It's it's like driving sixty three miles an hour in 1120 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: a fifty five mile an hour zone in Atlanta, for example, 1121 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,439 Speaker 1: or any major city where the speed limit is absurdly lower. 1122 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 2: Than it should be. 1123 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 1: Most everyone just says, forget about that, we'll go a 1124 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: safe speed, but we're not going fifty five. Well, there 1125 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 1: are a few cars that go fifty five, Just like 1126 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 1: there were a few enforcement staffs out there with certain 1127 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,879 Speaker 1: programs who would not bend on this, no matter how 1128 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 1: much the head coach complained, no matter how much the 1129 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,800 Speaker 1: assistants complained, no matter how much they brought in coaches 1130 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 1: from other staffs that told that enforcement staff, though, do 1131 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 1: everybody is doing this? That enforcement staff is that we're 1132 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 1: not doing it, no bend, no interpretation rules, We're not 1133 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: doing it. 1134 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 2: Well. 1135 00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 1: It puts you behind a giant eight ball, And this 1136 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 1: was a reason why some staffs moved on, some coaches 1137 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 1: moved on from certain institutions because the enforcement staff was 1138 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 1: too rigid on this thing that already wasn't being ad 1139 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 1: here to. 1140 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 2: Well, now it's not. 1141 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 1: An issue because it's not a rule anymore. So I 1142 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 1: think the situation of burnout will be addressed in the 1143 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 1: positive here. I think G five and FCF staffs are 1144 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 1: going to drastically suffer because of this. But I also 1145 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 1: think at least you want to have the great disparity 1146 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 1: and enforcement because one place is much more stringent on 1147 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 1: such things than other places are. They're watching us in 1148 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: San Marcos, Texas, Jacksonville, Alabama, and Detroit, Michigan. 1149 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 2: Appreciate you, guys. 1150 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: We got some unpopular takes on the show tonight, paper 1151 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 1: Stack got some unpopular takes here. First unpopular takes My 1152 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: favorite time of year. The unpopular takes are great. First 1153 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 1: unpopular take tonight eleven am kickoffs provide better exposure for 1154 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: teams than later kickoffs. That means noon Eastern. I would 1155 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: assume there's no specification on which platform he was talking 1156 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: about here. He just said the noon eastern time kickoff 1157 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 1: that's better exposure for teams. Well, that's not really true, 1158 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 1: and no one loves a noon kickoff more than me. 1159 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 1: I'd kick off the entire sport at noon if I 1160 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: could no, not quite that drastic, but I love neon kickoffs. 1161 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 1: But if you're a pure Tier one team, like if 1162 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 1: you're Ohio State, if you're Oregon, if you're a usc 1163 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: you can play any time of the day you want. 1164 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 1: People are gonna find your game. The general rule of 1165 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: thumb to me is if you are a lesser known program, 1166 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 1: it helps you to play later in the day, because 1167 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm a believer in looking at audience patterns, and audience 1168 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 1: patterns dictate that hardcore fans watch all day. The more 1169 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 1: casual like like P two and then casual P three 1170 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: fans industry terminology, but just means the less passionate they are, 1171 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 1: the less diehard they are, the more likely they are 1172 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,919 Speaker 1: to not be watching early in the day. The noon 1173 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 1: kickoffs filter in for the three thirty kickoffs, and then 1174 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 1: they're there for the primetime kickoffs because in their mind, 1175 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 1: primetime equals bigger game, and it does equal that in 1176 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 1: pro sports. It doesn't always equal that in college sports, 1177 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: which to me is a good thing but to some 1178 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,919 Speaker 1: people is not. So if I were a lesser known program, 1179 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,560 Speaker 1: I'd want to be playing as late as I can 1180 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 1: because mathematically, just statistically, people are more likely to bump 1181 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: into my game. And I'm not a known commodity. If 1182 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 1: I am Florida State, I'm known. If I'm Tennessee, I'm 1183 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 1: pretty known. So it doesn't matter if I play at 1184 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 1: noon or seven thirty. People are gonna confind me. So 1185 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 1: the exposure thing, I don't even think is just broadly 1186 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: applicable across the sport. It means different things for different programs. 1187 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 1: Ohio State doesn't need any more exposure, so it doesn't 1188 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: really matter what time of day they play. 1189 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 2: Penn State is known now. 1190 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 1: At that point, those folks up there looking around and say, yeah, 1191 00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 1: here's our other beef with the noon kickoffs. Can't be 1192 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 1: doing a wide out at noon, so get out of 1193 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 1: the way and give us our primetime kickoff. That's the 1194 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 1: exposure we want. And to that, I say, I did 1195 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 1: a segment on it two weeks ago. I agree with you, guys. 1196 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm willing to when I am college football commissioner, I 1197 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 1: am willing to create special carve outs for that, but you. 1198 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 2: Got to elect me first. 1199 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 1: Next up, Oh, this one would be dramatic if this 1200 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 1: one were to come to pass, Ken, said Mark my words, 1201 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 1: LSU will be the most overrated Top twenty five team 1202 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: this season. And then he said full stop, so you 1203 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 1: know he really means it. Thank you for the emphasis, Ken, 1204 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 1: They're over underwent totals nine and a half. Right now, 1205 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 1: For those wondering at fanduels nine and a half, what 1206 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 1: would have to happen for FSU or for LSU to 1207 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,439 Speaker 1: be the most overrated team in the entire top twenty five? 1208 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 1: So that means, take all the top twenty five teams, 1209 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 1: it looks like LSU is going to be in the 1210 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen range judging by preview magazines. So if 1211 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: they're remembered as the most overrated team out of all 1212 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 1: of them, that means they went like five and seven 1213 01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: or six and six, because you know, good and well, 1214 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna be a couple of full on disaster years 1215 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 1: in the top twenty five. So for LSU to be 1216 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 1: the worst one, I think six and six or worse. 1217 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: What has to happen for LSU to go six and six? Well, 1218 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: I figure you got a bank on Garrett Nusmayer not 1219 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 1: being anywhere close to the answer. At quarterback, they never 1220 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 1: come close to matching the rushing numbers that they lost 1221 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: when Jayden Daniels went off to the NFL. Not only that, 1222 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 1: but you got the whole new offensive coordinator, new quarterback, 1223 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 1: unproven running back stable. You're replacing twenty seven hundred receiving 1224 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 1: yards and thirty one touchdowns, none of it backfills. So 1225 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 1: you've just got a middling offense that pales in comparison 1226 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 1: to what you had last year. 1227 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 2: That has to happen. 1228 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 1: And then I think also defensively, despite all these new 1229 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 1: staff moves, inability to make big moves in the portal 1230 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 1: at defensive line ends up costing you all year. I 1231 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 1: think lack of portal success has to bite them defensive 1232 01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 1: line and DBS. They if not regress, they just don't progress. 1233 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 1: And then I think the schedule difficulty has to verify. 1234 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 1: So you look at the preseason FanDuel odds to just 1235 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 1: win it all. LSU plays five of the top twenty 1236 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 1: teams to win the whole thing, and they got USC 1237 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 1: to open the season. Their first conference games at South Carolina, 1238 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 1: they play Ole Miss, they go to A and M. 1239 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 1: They got Bama, they go to Florida, they got Oklahoma. 1240 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 1: All of those teams have to end up being good 1241 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 1: and all of them have to beat LSU. So if 1242 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 1: all of that transpires, you had to be a bad 1243 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 1: year for LSU, and then Brian Kelly would have all 1244 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 1: kinds of uncomfortable conversations surrounding him. I'm not sure all 1245 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. So this is a very unpopular take. Now, 1246 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 1: if I were to ask people over under on LSU, 1247 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,360 Speaker 1: you'd get a fair amount of under action, but they'd 1248 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 1: be saying eight and four, nine and three, six and 1249 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 1: six are worse. Just falling out of the top twenty 1250 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 1: five entirely, people saying you were the most overrated team 1251 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 1: in the country. It's doubtful, but that's what makes it 1252 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 1: an unpopular take. Here's a good follow up. I don't 1253 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,040 Speaker 1: really have an answer for this. You guys can give 1254 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 1: it to me the comment section. Let's say this is 1255 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 1: true for a second. We get to the end of 1256 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 1: the year, there's no bowl game. LSU's like five and seven. 1257 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 1: What do you do unless it was just injuries all 1258 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 1: over the place, the likes of which you've never seen. 1259 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 1: If their football team just isn't good enough to be 1260 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 1: five hundred or better, what would you do. It's off 1261 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 1: the edge of a cliff in terms of comparable data 1262 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 1: points like going back in history and finding some comparable situations. 1263 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 2: What do you do. 1264 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 1: Wolf, If, on the other hand, you think that that's 1265 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 1: out of the realm of possibility and LSU may be 1266 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 1: the most underrated team in the top twenty five, I 1267 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,440 Speaker 1: have good news for you. They're over underwent totals nine 1268 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 1: and a half. And you can go bett at FanDuel 1269 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 1: right now. 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I will 1314 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,840 Speaker 1: make sure to get you bold predictions, like right now. 1315 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 1: For example, the big rule around here this year, for 1316 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 1: the first time is if you make a prediction that 1317 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 1: is nine point five or bolder, as determined by me 1318 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 1: and your prediction hits, I am sending you a chalice 1319 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 1: of supremacy. We've had a few nine point five's already. 1320 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 1: Let's see what we can do tonight. All right, boldest 1321 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,800 Speaker 1: predictions this year the things that you claim you'd bet 1322 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:42,440 Speaker 1: your own money on first bold prediction after three consecutive losses. 1323 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 1: Tyler in Maryville, Tennessee, says Ohio State beats Michigan by 1324 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 1: two plus touchdowns this year. Well, we have two bits 1325 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 1: of information from our friends at FanDuel number one. There's 1326 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 1: already a line on the game. You could bet this 1327 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,440 Speaker 1: right now if you wanted to, even though it's the 1328 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,560 Speaker 1: last week of the year. They have a future number 1329 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 1: on it Michigan at Ohio State Ohio State minus nine 1330 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 1: and a half. They're a nine and a half point 1331 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,920 Speaker 1: favorite right now, but they also have an alternative. 1332 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 2: Line on it, or an alternate line on. 1333 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 1: It just so happens to coincide with this prediction. You 1334 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,320 Speaker 1: could go bet Ohio State minus fourteen right now at 1335 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 1: plus one thirty, which is probably something I'd wait to 1336 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,160 Speaker 1: do a little bit later in the year, but it's 1337 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,080 Speaker 1: out there. In fact, Ohio State is more likely to 1338 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 1: win by fourteen or more than they are to win 1339 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 1: by one to seven points, so odds makers don't find 1340 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 1: this bold. Odds makers find it somewhat likely. Four of 1341 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:43,080 Speaker 1: the last five games in this series have been decided 1342 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 1: by fourteen plus, so even though it's very fierce there 1343 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 1: have been Michigan forty two to twenty seven, Michigan forty 1344 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 1: five to twenty three. Last year's game was close, but 1345 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 1: several years before that, three years before that, Ohio State 1346 01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,240 Speaker 1: a double digit winner in all the years, So double 1347 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 1: digit wins are a norm in this series. Is the 1348 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: Ohio State gonna do it this year? It's a seven 1349 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 1: for me. This is not out of the Roman possibility 1350 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 1: at all. Having said that, it's also not out of 1351 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 1: the Roman possibility that everyone's predicting that and then Michigan 1352 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,599 Speaker 1: goes in there and wins outright. But I mean, if 1353 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 1: odds makers are telling me it's plus one thirty juice 1354 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,519 Speaker 1: at minus fourteen, I'm gonna make it a seven on 1355 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,519 Speaker 1: the boldness Goale. Next up, we haven't talked about Arkansas 1356 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 1: in a while. Mike up in Russellville. He said, Arkansas 1357 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 1: wins eight games this year. Then he put a lot 1358 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,280 Speaker 1: of qualifiers in there that would probably happen if Arkansas 1359 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,840 Speaker 1: won eight games. So bad news, Mike, Well, actually good 1360 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,280 Speaker 1: news for you. I'm making this a nine point seventy five. 1361 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 1: So if it happens, chalice of supremacy coming your way. 1362 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,880 Speaker 1: The over underwent totals four and a half right now, 1363 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 1: and it's juiced to the under, so you got to 1364 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 1: pay more of a premium to bet the under at 1365 01:08:52,360 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 1: four and a half. There are reasons for optimism, deep breath, there, 1366 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,120 Speaker 1: the deepest breadth of the show. There are reasons for optimism. 1367 01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 1: Taylor Green is a quarterback transfer from Boise. Hopes and 1368 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 1: dreams are riding on him this year. Bobby Petrino is 1369 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:16,320 Speaker 1: back as the offensive coordinator, so this pairing, it's not negotiable. 1370 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 1: They have to mesh and they need it to explode. 1371 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,600 Speaker 1: It will be a very volatile offense. It could be 1372 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,719 Speaker 1: a really really up and down, hit and miss offense. 1373 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 1: The weeks where they hit, they could randomly go to 1374 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 1: Auburn and win a week after they lose against UAB. 1375 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 1: I could easily see that kind of stuff happening this 1376 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 1: year for them. They are definitely gonna be an underdog 1377 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,679 Speaker 1: in eight games this year. Definitely an underdog in eight, 1378 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,800 Speaker 1: could be nine or more, so they've got to pull 1379 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,679 Speaker 1: several upsets. Getting to eight is gonna be really, really tough. 1380 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make that a nine point seventy five on 1381 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 1: the boldness scale. Next up, a lot of creativity here, 1382 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 1: it's pretty bold. Let's talk about the college football playoff. 1383 01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,879 Speaker 1: Three teams from the state of Texas will make the playoff. 1384 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 1: The way I figure this is both Texas and Texas 1385 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,800 Speaker 1: A and M have to make it because of what 1386 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm about to say. In the Big twelve you got 1387 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:17,720 Speaker 1: Texas Tech, Baylor TCU in Houston. Not impossible, but unlikely 1388 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 1: that you see a playoff team come out of that group. 1389 01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,879 Speaker 1: SMU is in the ACC now crazier things have happened, 1390 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:29,719 Speaker 1: but unlikely. And then you look at the G five. 1391 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,720 Speaker 1: So let's just say Texas and Texas A and M 1392 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:36,040 Speaker 1: made it, which is tough but not impossible. UTSA, they're 1393 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,719 Speaker 1: over under win totals eight and a half. Texas state 1394 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,400 Speaker 1: over under win total of eight and a half, so 1395 01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,000 Speaker 1: maybe one of them gets in. The G five's got 1396 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,760 Speaker 1: to have at least one team M, so maybe they 1397 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 1: get in, and maybe both the SEC teams get in. 1398 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 1: This is a stretch, so this is a nine point 1399 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,560 Speaker 1: twenty five on the boldness scale, but not impossible. It 1400 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't be the biggest shock in the world. Hat tip 1401 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,360 Speaker 1: for Rice appearing there on a graphic did not know 1402 01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 1: what have food on the show tonight. And lastly, let's 1403 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,559 Speaker 1: wrap up with a nine point five. Here a Grand 1404 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,240 Speaker 1: Rapids Michigan checking in saying Riley Leonard is in New 1405 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,880 Speaker 1: York City for the Heisman ceremony. So not that he 1406 01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,320 Speaker 1: wins it, but Riley Leonard transferred from Duke to Notre 1407 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:18,200 Speaker 1: Dame quarterback. He's going to be a Heisman finalist. Remember 1408 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 1: last year he was hurt. Year before at Duke, he 1409 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,040 Speaker 1: was a three thousand yard passer, seven hundred yard rusher, 1410 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 1: really good player, had a ton of hype last year 1411 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 1: and then was banged up. Mike Denbrock, who coordinated the 1412 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,559 Speaker 1: offense at LSU that won the Heisman last year with 1413 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,599 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, he is the offensive coordinator at Notre Dame. 1414 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 2: Now, so as you. 1415 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,479 Speaker 1: Come back to the college football watering hole, familiarize yourself 1416 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,120 Speaker 1: with the staff moves. That's a really big deal. So 1417 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 1: you got a really really good talent at quarterback. You 1418 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,280 Speaker 1: got a really really good play caller and really good developer, 1419 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,240 Speaker 1: a guy who knows what he's doing at offensive coordinator. 1420 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,559 Speaker 1: Is Notre Dame's offense going to be prolific enough though 1421 01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:58,600 Speaker 1: to get him the kind of numbers you need to 1422 01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,560 Speaker 1: go to New York City. Notre Dame is going to 1423 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,320 Speaker 1: be plenty good defensively where they don't need to play. 1424 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,400 Speaker 2: The way that Lsu played last year. Not even close 1425 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,040 Speaker 2: doesn't mean they can't. 1426 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,679 Speaker 1: He is the ninth player right now in the Heisman 1427 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,400 Speaker 1: odds board over at FanDuel. This is a nine point 1428 01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,240 Speaker 1: five to me. It's not cause I doubt Leonard's skill 1429 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,960 Speaker 1: set so much, especially if he's healthy. It's just because 1430 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 1: there's some things I try and picture in my mind, 1431 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 1: and I have trouble picturing a Notre Dame quarterback throwing 1432 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 1: for the kind of numbers that you would need over 1433 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 1: the past several years. History says that you would need 1434 01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,559 Speaker 1: to be in New York. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm wrong. 1435 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,400 Speaker 1: That's tough to see, and so I'm gonna make it 1436 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 1: a nine point five on the boldness scale. There you go, 1437 01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,599 Speaker 1: good bold predictions tonight. I appreciate you guys for watching. 1438 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,719 Speaker 1: Remember we're going to be back Tuesday Live Show five 1439 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:49,800 Speaker 1: Eastern fourth Central Special start time on Tuesday, and then, 1440 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean we got a holiday weekend the rest of 1441 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:52,439 Speaker 1: the weekend. 1442 01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:53,880 Speaker 2: Appreciate you so much. 1443 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 1: Make sure you're subscribed to the channel in the pod 1444 01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 1: and make sure you bring five to ten of your 1445 01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,679 Speaker 1: friends along with you. They're gonna be complaining this time 1446 01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,000 Speaker 1: of year. You know what they're gonna do because you 1447 01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 1: and I used to do the same thing. 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