WEBVTT - Thanks, Napoleon. You Jackass!

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty and now he Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>Meantime, the Wall Street Journal reports the Pentagon is considering

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<v Speaker 3>sending an additional ten thousand troops to the region. That's

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<v Speaker 3>in addition to the fifteen hundred paratroopers from the eighty

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<v Speaker 3>second Airborne to be mobilized for the war. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>clear which division the troops would be drawn from.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know what that brings the total number

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<v Speaker 2>two that's being sent there, but we're definitely getting more

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<v Speaker 2>boots that can be on the ground in the area.

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<v Speaker 4>And this conflict certainly has the potential to become the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest story of our lives. Jack and I'm both amazed

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<v Speaker 4>at how little attention is being paid by a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of media. But there's a discussion for another moment. Right now,

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<v Speaker 4>let's talk to military analyst Mike Lyons, who joins us.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike killo, how are you hey?

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<v Speaker 5>Come oney, guys, great to be back.

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<v Speaker 2>As boots get closer to the ground, what are your concerns?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I still want to keep the air war going,

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<v Speaker 6>the air campaign going.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think we've hit enough targets.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess over ten thousand, but there's still lots of

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<v Speaker 6>military targets, lots of targets of opportunity to go after

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<v Speaker 6>and continue to use that as.

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<v Speaker 5>A way to degrade and to.

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<v Speaker 6>Put pressure on this regime to try to get them

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<v Speaker 6>to a point where they will agree to something reasonable

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<v Speaker 6>or you could see what they put out so far,

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<v Speaker 6>it's completely unreasonable. I know we're working a seve Wick

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<v Speaker 6>Coops fifteen point plan which resembles like they did in Gaza,

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<v Speaker 6>but there's no such thing as a fifteen point successful

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<v Speaker 6>piece plan anywhere. So again, I have no problem keeping

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<v Speaker 6>the military aspects going, but there will likely be soldiers

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<v Speaker 6>at some point that will have to be deployed for

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<v Speaker 6>a couple different reasons. One to get the half a

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<v Speaker 6>ton of depleted or enrich dream out of there and

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<v Speaker 6>perhaps make it a show of force to make sure

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<v Speaker 6>that you know we have some visible sign of victory.

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<v Speaker 4>Based on what you've read and heard, how likely do

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<v Speaker 4>you think it is we'll take a shot at taking

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<v Speaker 4>carg Island.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, that would be the most easiest way for this

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<v Speaker 6>administration to get a victory, to get a visual, a

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<v Speaker 6>visual on what's going on. But I do think that

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<v Speaker 6>there's RGC units dug in there. It's heavily defended. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think we'll go there anytime soon. In fact, we

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<v Speaker 6>could continue to vomit for three more weeks or so.

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't see the Marines launching a D Day

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<v Speaker 6>type invasion there.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't see that.

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<v Speaker 6>I think if we do, it's Army Rangers and Delta

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<v Speaker 6>kind of occupying it. If if you remember back Mogadishu

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<v Speaker 6>kind of fast roping. I think that's the air assault

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<v Speaker 6>airborne way to do that from a military perspective. Getting

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit inside baseball here, but I think it

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<v Speaker 6>would be important. And I think, you know, look, we're

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<v Speaker 6>really good at fighting wars, right the United States is

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<v Speaker 6>great at fighting wars, but we've not been really good

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<v Speaker 6>at waging wars. And doing something like that. Taking carg

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<v Speaker 6>Island and taking over Irinians oil refineries would be a

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<v Speaker 6>good way to wage war. That would be the kind

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<v Speaker 6>of thing that would make a real difference.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>I know a lot of people would be screaming about

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<v Speaker 6>war crimes and civilians all these other things, but this

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<v Speaker 6>is what waging war is all about. This is what

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<v Speaker 6>close which would say, is how a country has to

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<v Speaker 6>expect if it wants to win. If we just want

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<v Speaker 6>to again while owen ovacaine and not do what we

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<v Speaker 6>did for the past two conflicts, then we'll get nothing done.

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<v Speaker 6>But this administration is dogs didn't doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you brought up that whole idea of securing nuclear material.

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<v Speaker 2>That seems like a heck of a job to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and they're going to have to go to

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<v Speaker 2>these areas that we just bombed the but Jesus out

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<v Speaker 2>of and get some dump trucks and some back hos

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<v Speaker 2>and start digging and while protecting it. I mean, what's

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<v Speaker 2>that going to look like?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>It's going to take intel first from Israel that will

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<v Speaker 6>likely know where it's stored, to find out where it

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<v Speaker 6>is and then find out how difficult it's going to

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<v Speaker 6>be to extract is it undergrounds it has it been

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<v Speaker 6>in case already entombed in some cases, Whether that mission

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<v Speaker 6>is plausible or not, that would be you know, we

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<v Speaker 6>want to get to IMEA, the the international you know

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<v Speaker 6>community involved with that mission if that's possible. But you're

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<v Speaker 6>not putting that, you know, in the back of a

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<v Speaker 6>Special Forces helicopter and getting in and getting out and

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<v Speaker 6>doing that mission. That's a long, you know, really difficult

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<v Speaker 6>engineering problem set to solve, and I think the you know,

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<v Speaker 6>probably solved after the conflict is officially over on some level.

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<v Speaker 5>But that would be another one of those.

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<v Speaker 6>Signs that the president could point to and say this

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<v Speaker 6>is why we're victorious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>On one more note, I've heard that it is extremely

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<v Speaker 4>dangerous and volatile stuff to deal with, as you might

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<v Speaker 4>expect how you're fined uranium.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean the protection alone of the forces would be overwhelming, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Mike, another discussion we've had a number of times

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<v Speaker 4>on the show is that how in the TikTok world

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<v Speaker 4>everybody expects things to be wrapped up within seventy two

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<v Speaker 4>hours or they think, you know, it's gone wrong. Talk

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<v Speaker 4>to us, as a veteran of combat and a student

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<v Speaker 4>of military history, where are we timeline in a very

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<v Speaker 4>significant and I would argue important more.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, yeah, the fallacy of a short war

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<v Speaker 6>is that thing we've seen in this century, in the

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<v Speaker 6>last century, based on Desert Storm, about how fast that happened,

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<v Speaker 6>But that was just the ground aspect of it. What's

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<v Speaker 6>forgotten over the thirty seven or thirty eight days of

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<v Speaker 6>the air pounding that took place, and we still had

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<v Speaker 6>to send ground troops in order to kind of clean

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<v Speaker 6>that up. In this case. You know, we had four

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<v Speaker 6>times the amount of air sorties that will flowed during

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<v Speaker 6>Desert Storm there, and we're still doing a lot here.

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<v Speaker 6>But from the grand scheme of things, I think it

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<v Speaker 6>lulled Latimer Putin, for example, unto a false sense of security,

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<v Speaker 6>thinking he was going to take Ukraine very quickly.

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<v Speaker 5>Just he forgot to.

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<v Speaker 6>Figure out how to wait, to take his forces and

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<v Speaker 6>multiply them and combine them. But that's another thing. But

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<v Speaker 6>in the grand scheme of things, fast wars just don't happen,

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<v Speaker 6>and they're not easily resolved. And Desert Storm was an

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<v Speaker 6>unfortunate example of when it did happen that a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of people point to and say, why, why can't we

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<v Speaker 6>do something similar there? Which is why again this goes

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<v Speaker 6>on for many months and this administration, I'm sure we'll

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<v Speaker 6>protect its forces. I think the number they have on

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<v Speaker 6>their board right now is thirteen. You know how many

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<v Speaker 6>Kia at this point, and the objective is to keep

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<v Speaker 6>that low, which again to me, you think back when

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<v Speaker 6>we were doing Vietnam, we were sending one hundred and

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<v Speaker 6>fifty bodies and body bags back every week and no

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<v Speaker 6>one blinked an eye about it. So again, protection of

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<v Speaker 6>the force is going to be important. But we could

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<v Speaker 6>still see this conflict go for for months.

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<v Speaker 2>So they talked about that clip we played ten thousand

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<v Speaker 2>more troops being sent over there to join up with

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen hundred this or that. Do you expect that number

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<v Speaker 2>to go way up? I mean, the reporting today from

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<v Speaker 2>all the sources I really trust is Trump is hell

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<v Speaker 2>bent on We're going to pound them until they surrender,

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<v Speaker 2>or we're going to take what we want. We're just

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<v Speaker 2>going to take it from them, isn't Is that going

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<v Speaker 2>to take like a really big number of troops. Should

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<v Speaker 2>we be prepared for that?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's where again, not sending large formations, not

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<v Speaker 6>sending the first Armor Division, three hundred main battle tanks,

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<v Speaker 6>t and forty brads, we're not sending the logis six

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<v Speaker 6>that goes with that kind of the tail of that

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<v Speaker 6>kind of operation is just unsustainable and there's really no

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<v Speaker 6>way to get it there. Now at this point, the

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<v Speaker 6>light infantry units will go Tense Mountain Division for example,

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<v Speaker 6>that's not in the Rapid Deployment Force with the eighty

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<v Speaker 6>second the Rangers Delta that those guys that move fast.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's another division that can kind of get in

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<v Speaker 6>there and get out. There's an airborne unit in Alaska

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<v Speaker 6>that could probably go. They're just looking for again, getting

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<v Speaker 6>troops in there, low logistics that can sustain themselves, don't

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<v Speaker 6>need lots of things to go with them, take control

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<v Speaker 6>of something and then hold it for a certain period

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<v Speaker 6>of time. Again, go back to if we decide to

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<v Speaker 6>take the refineries, which I think would be a tremendous

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<v Speaker 6>military target right now, and I think hopefully they're working

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<v Speaker 6>on that. I think that cripples around takes their ability

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<v Speaker 6>to generate revenue and puts the United States to control

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<v Speaker 6>of that oil resource. Now again, the world's going to scream,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the imperialistic you know Americans are doing it again.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's the way to get this war to stop.

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<v Speaker 6>That's waging war against the country fighting it.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike.

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<v Speaker 4>My final question is when you look at Iran's defense forces,

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<v Speaker 4>have you heard of or seen any signs that there

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<v Speaker 4>might be cracks in the loyalty or serious breakdowns in

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<v Speaker 4>command and control.

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<v Speaker 6>So no, and have seen us go after a beastiege targets,

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<v Speaker 6>which surprised me. I thought that you were going to.

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<v Speaker 5>See it there.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd read previous incidents that the besiege would have somewhat

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<v Speaker 6>turned against the IRGC because they were conflicting each other.

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<v Speaker 5>It's kind of like big brother or little brother within

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<v Speaker 5>the country. But it doesn't look like that's happened.

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<v Speaker 6>It's looked that the besiege is still well aligned with

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<v Speaker 6>the IRGC. The besiege think of the besiege is local

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<v Speaker 6>police DHSS, you know, kind of not true military forces,

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<v Speaker 6>but having control of the security. They're the ones that

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<v Speaker 6>are there. They're killing the civilians right now that are

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<v Speaker 6>protesting and they have become a target, so that that's

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<v Speaker 6>been disappointing. But haven't seen the breakdown yet. I mean again,

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<v Speaker 6>they've been dug in for forty seven years, they've been

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<v Speaker 6>someone planning for this for forty seven years, and the

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<v Speaker 6>IRGC is just not going away anytime yet. We We're

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<v Speaker 6>not at the level where someone finally says enough's enough

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<v Speaker 6>again because we haven't waged war we've just continued to fight.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike, just fantastic, best analysis I've heard anywhere, and we

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<v Speaker 4>sure appreciate the time and the energy you put into it.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks great, Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that whole wage war versus fight war. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to spend more time looking into all that. That's

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Seriously, Mike's analysis is so much better than anything else

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<v Speaker 4>you hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Ough, so good. I have there no military background and

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<v Speaker 2>only what I've read about wars. I do know something

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<v Speaker 2>about the media, though, and so like I'm looking up

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<v Speaker 2>at the headlines on what is that? Good morning America?

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<v Speaker 2>Stocks plunge, oil rises, on Iran war fears, which is

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<v Speaker 2>true enough, but the drum beat of that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Has there ever been in the history of the world

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<v Speaker 2>a country go to war and your media, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even the pre media era, I don't even know who

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<v Speaker 2>you'd be talking about the I don't know, village elders

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, bad mouthing, bad mouthing their own efforts and exaggerating,

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<v Speaker 2>making you know, positive things look like a failure. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>has that ever happened? I don't know if it has

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<v Speaker 2>ever happened. Honest to god, you know history of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>including like if you've got an Indian tribe going over

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<v Speaker 2>to fight the next tribe on the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the hill, and everybody's standing around saying, aye, I heard,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going horrible and as you can see, food is

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<v Speaker 2>getting scared. So it's a disaster. When when all the

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<v Speaker 2>facts on the ground are it's going fairly.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, everything is clickbait and or narrative reinforcement, which is clickbait.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything is clickbait in media. We really try to avoid that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's probably a strategic mistake, but we're too stubborn to change.

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<v Speaker 2>But sure interesting culturally, yeah, you know, and sometimes it

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<v Speaker 2>probably was isn't good. What the Brits were doing in

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<v Speaker 2>the Boer War wasn't wasn't the greatest thing in order,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, God help you, who was it.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't pay attention to the Boer War, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I too boring Belgium and what they did to King Leopold.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, look into that sometime, but their own media

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't have been reporting that because they weren't allowed to

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<v Speaker 4>s which is probably isn't good. But regardless, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if it's ever happened where a country's gone to war,

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<v Speaker 4>and you have media at home giving you the worst

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<v Speaker 4>case scenario as a drum beat. So I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 4>the markets right now, and the S and P was

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<v Speaker 4>down about one and a quarter percent, it's now bounced

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<v Speaker 4>back to desk and being down three quarters of a percent,

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<v Speaker 4>and the Nasdaq is down about one percent, having also

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<v Speaker 4>bounced back. So the idea that you would go with

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<v Speaker 4>as a responsible news organization which plunge right exactly, that

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<v Speaker 4>you would use that verbiage is hilarious. It's clickbait, period,

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<v Speaker 4>although it does affect people's minds and their hearts and attitudes.

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<v Speaker 2>About what were up to as a country. Well, if

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<v Speaker 2>you had a really good media and you know you

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<v Speaker 2>can't expect this, but they would give you some context.

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<v Speaker 2>A point a percentage and a half drop in the

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<v Speaker 2>stock market in one day doesn't mean a freaking thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It means zero. There's so many factors that go into

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<v Speaker 2>a percentage jumper down for one day. To draw any

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<v Speaker 2>analysis from madis.

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<v Speaker 4>Insane unless you just had on your calendar, I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to cash out all of my investments to retire on

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<v Speaker 4>this day. Well, number one, you need a better financial advisor, right, right,

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<v Speaker 4>better media.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's something anyway, Any thoughts on any of that

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<v Speaker 2>text line four one five two nine five KFTC.

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<v Speaker 7>Major League Baseball, the Dodgers hosted the Diamondbacks at Dodgers Stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dogs LA is trying to win their third straight

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<v Speaker 2>World Series.

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<v Speaker 7>Dodgers right now are kind of like the Chicago Bulls

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<v Speaker 7>from the nineties, except they have three Michael Jordan's and

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<v Speaker 7>they're all Japanese.

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<v Speaker 2>Mmm. I don't know if you signed the clips of

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<v Speaker 2>Savannah Guthrie did an interview for the first time. The

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<v Speaker 2>interesting thing to me was she's going to return to

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<v Speaker 2>the Today Show April sixth, so next Friday. I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think she'd ever come back after that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I could.

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<v Speaker 8>She's blaming she's blaming herself for her mom's Yeah that's

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<v Speaker 8>too bad.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, her fame. I guess that's too bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't. I have no idea how I would process

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<v Speaker 4>that and what I would do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Two months later, completely different topic, they found

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<v Speaker 2>a second sphinx buried under the sand in Egypt. You

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<v Speaker 2>know the stak, the big old the lion with a

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<v Speaker 2>pharaoh's head or whatever the heck that thing is that

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<v Speaker 2>the snake tailor Napoleon blew the nose off of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why it looks like that. Thanks Napoleon, You jackass,

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't you jackass? Anyway, they found another one buried under

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<v Speaker 2>the sand, suggesting a megas structure of many pyramids and

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<v Speaker 2>sphinxes that might exist under the sand. Still, I would

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<v Speaker 2>have thought we'd have had some sort of X ray

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<v Speaker 2>technology or something where we could have figured that out

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<v Speaker 2>by now.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently, Yeah, given all the antiquities and riches and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>On the other hand, maybe the pharaoh just had a

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<v Speaker 4>Bogo coupon them. Buy one, get one by one's finx,

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<v Speaker 4>get one free.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows.

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<v Speaker 4>Jimmy the sphinx maker was struggling for business so started

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<v Speaker 4>sending no coupons.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about all the slaves whose entire lives were toiling

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<v Speaker 2>in the hot sun to build those things.

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<v Speaker 4>For one's things up there, and just bury the other

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<v Speaker 4>one and we'll grab it when we needed well, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>remember it's there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how it went. Some sort of super giant complex though,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that would be amazing. A's who I was said

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago, and I'm not to drag

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<v Speaker 2>the Iran war back into this, but if the Middle

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<v Speaker 2>East became like Europe, God, there's a lot of great

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<v Speaker 2>too destinations there. No, I might just move there for

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<v Speaker 2>a year, maybe two. Check out all this two stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned Trump's gonna put his signature on the money. Usually

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<v Speaker 2>the Secretary of Treasury sens signs all the money, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be Trumps signature. And then there's also a

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<v Speaker 2>gold coin coming out with his face on it. I

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<v Speaker 2>heard that on MS Now is that true?

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't hear people on currency? Is that Is that

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<v Speaker 4>a real rule or did you? That's the Joe Getty rule.

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<v Speaker 4>That's myral. No, I think it's federal law, but I

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<v Speaker 4>can't be sure. I mean, it's the sort of thing

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<v Speaker 4>you learn as an eight year old.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure I care. I don't. I don't rank

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<v Speaker 2>these up to the level of caring.

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<v Speaker 4>So these sort of Trump's self aggrandizement is already so

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<v Speaker 4>far beyond my comprehension and ability to believe it. That's

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<v Speaker 4>one more thing, would just be one more thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But does he feel like putting his name on the

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy Art Center, The Trump Kennedy Art Center or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna last past the first Democratic administration.

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<v Speaker 4>I have no idea how he thinks about these things.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems nuts to me for reasons like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but again I don't care either way, not on

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<v Speaker 2>my list. What is that thing you're going to tell

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<v Speaker 2>us coming up? I love this, Oh, it's absolutely great.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a psychotherapist who says he's talking about the next

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<v Speaker 4>No King's rally. I had no idea one was happening.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess it's happening tomorrow. No Kings politics is bad

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<v Speaker 4>group therapy. There's a novelgics has become ineffective bad group therapy,

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<v Speaker 4>and he explains why.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very insightful. There will be a No King's rally

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<v Speaker 2>while we're trying to get rid of a king in

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<v Speaker 2>Iran and you're complaining about it, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>A king who behaves just like the Handmaid's Tale.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, anyway. Yeah, it's as if you people are idiots,

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<v Speaker 2>the mindset of people who go to rallies and protests.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I look forward to talking about that and

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<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of other stuff that we got coming

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<v Speaker 2>up on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Michael, do we still have that old clip quit being

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<v Speaker 4>an idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>That was one of the I can find its lots

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<v Speaker 2>all the way if you missed the sec making the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 9>It doesn't make any sense to have a swimmer who

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<v Speaker 9>was the four hundred and seventy second ranked swimmer when

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<v Speaker 9>he was a man at Penn either winning or coming

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<v Speaker 9>close to winning against women a year and a half

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<v Speaker 9>after transitioning. If that's what the person wants to do,

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<v Speaker 9>that person should be treated with dignity and respect. But

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<v Speaker 9>there ought to be common sense, and common sense is

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<v Speaker 9>not transphobic.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's Bob Costas, who I think is an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>announcer and one of the greatest interviews viewers in history.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you follow Bob Costas, he got very political

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<v Speaker 2>in the last several years. Where was that while this

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<v Speaker 2>was happening, when that Penn swimmer was beaten all the

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<v Speaker 2>girls and where were you?

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<v Speaker 5>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Goss says he didn't have the nerve to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he says it with obviously we all agree on this,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>Sort of I didn't realize he was passive while it

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<v Speaker 4>was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>When we are yelling about it.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, Bob is actually reacting to the announcement from

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<v Speaker 4>the IOC. And here's the iOS, the International Olympic Committee,

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<v Speaker 4>their president, Kirsty Coventry.

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<v Speaker 1>The policy that we have announced is based on science

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<v Speaker 1>and it has been led by medical experts with the

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<v Speaker 1>best interests of athletes at its heart. The scientific evidence

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<v Speaker 1>is very clear male chromosomes give performance advantages in sports

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<v Speaker 1>that rely on strength, power, or endurance. At the Olympic Games,

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<v Speaker 1>even the smallest margins can be the difference between victory

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<v Speaker 1>and defeat. So it's absolutely clear that it would not

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<v Speaker 1>be fair for biological males to compete in the female category.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition, in some sports it would simply not be safe.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine reviving perhaps loved one who passed away

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen years ago, right, and they would hear that, and

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<v Speaker 4>they would say, they're talking about men playing in women's sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is she answering a question nobody's ever asked, and

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<v Speaker 2>why is she so worthy? The answer is, no, men

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<v Speaker 2>can't play in women's sports. We're through here. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it is so astonishing and in some cases are dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean, like when that dude beat the crap out

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<v Speaker 2>of the girls in the boxing, to the point that

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<v Speaker 2>some of them quit halfway through, like I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>killed out of here exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm even in non combat sports like basketball, volleyball. Terrible

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<v Speaker 4>injuries to young women and grown women as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's absolutely bizarre. It shows how quickly a social contagion

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<v Speaker 4>can infect people and make them say and do things

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<v Speaker 4>that are just insane. Anyway, speaking of progressive attitudes, good

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<v Speaker 4>for the IOC a little late to the party, but

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<v Speaker 4>thanks for coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of the left's attitudes, apparently there's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>another No King's demonstration or a bunch of them. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>against things, very good, great, me too, all across the

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<v Speaker 4>country tomorrow. And Jonathan Albert, who is not only a

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<v Speaker 4>practicing psychotherapist, but he is writing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's about to release.

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<v Speaker 4>A book on how bad a lot of psychotherapy is.

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<v Speaker 4>Something that'll be near and dear to your heart, Jack,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure, and he describes he's written a piece. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 4>my goodness, allergies are bad this time here piece. I

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<v Speaker 4>could be well, we're all dying slowly from time anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>he says. After No King's rally last October, I was

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<v Speaker 4>walking through the area and pository the science. A woman

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<v Speaker 4>asked me, aren't these great? And I said, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually like some of Trump's policies. Well f you that,

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<v Speaker 4>she shouted. Then he gets into the whole No King's rally,

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<v Speaker 4>and given our history, I mean, it's a striking claim

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<v Speaker 4>that we're living under one or about too or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But he says, still it's revealing.

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<v Speaker 4>It reflects a broader shift and how political disagreement is

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<v Speaker 4>understood not as a clash of views but as.

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<v Speaker 2>A struggle between victims and villains.

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<v Speaker 4>Then he describes how the US is what has always

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<v Speaker 4>been a contentious, oft and frustrated democracy with competing interests

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<v Speaker 4>and imperfect leadership, but describing it in more dramatic terms

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<v Speaker 4>raises the emotional stakes. It transforms ordinary political conflict into

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<v Speaker 4>something more absolute and more psychologically satisfying. He says, in

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<v Speaker 4>my work as a psychotherapist, I've seen a parallel change,

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<v Speaker 4>and now people interpret their personal lives. Feelings are increasingly

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<v Speaker 4>treated not as signals to examine, but as conclusions to affirm.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think we're kind of all familiar with We've

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<v Speaker 4>heard that verbiage about how you can't deny my feelings,

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<v Speaker 4>or I've got to trust my feelings and all when

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<v Speaker 4>feelings are often wildly misleading, the last thing you should

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<v Speaker 4>trust anyway. You shouldn't ignore them, but they should not

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<v Speaker 4>dictate your life anyway. Discomfort is no longer something to

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<v Speaker 4>work true, but something to explain, often by projecting blame

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<v Speaker 4>onto an external source. This mindset doesn't stay in the

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<v Speaker 4>therapy room. It has begun to shape political life, and

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<v Speaker 4>the No King's Rallies offer a framework that supports that

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<v Speaker 4>favors affirmation over scrutiny, a clean moral narrative in which

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<v Speaker 4>there are those who are wronged and those responsible for

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<v Speaker 4>the wrongdoing. At their core, the rallies resemble bad group therapy,

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<v Speaker 4>gatherings that offer validation, solidarity, and emotional release. They feel

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<v Speaker 4>good in the moment. Participants vent to find reinforcement among

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<v Speaker 4>like minded people and leave feeling heard and aligned. The

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<v Speaker 4>experience can seem productive, even clarifying, but like bad group therapy,

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<v Speaker 4>it stops at validation. The feelings are processed but not challenged,

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<v Speaker 4>reinforced but not examined. There is relief but little resolution,

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<v Speaker 4>and the underlying problems remain. It offers the feelings of

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<v Speaker 4>progress without the substance of it. Yeah, there's got to

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<v Speaker 4>be a personality type that's susceptible to that. And it

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<v Speaker 4>runs one direction politically, because otherwise you would think it

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<v Speaker 4>would be happening exactly the same on the right with

0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:05.400
<v Speaker 4>a certain kind of person who get their feelings validated

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<v Speaker 4>and enjoy seeing well, there's a whole bunch of people

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 4>that agree with me and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>It exists on the right, but it's a much much

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<v Speaker 4>smaller scale. I think a lot of the Trump rallies

0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 4>are that, but it's it's tiny compared to some of

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:19.719
<v Speaker 4>this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then I don't know that so outside of

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<v Speaker 2>a Trump rally where it's around you know the personality

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:28.480
<v Speaker 2>that is the president, Sure, you know, an issue rally

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<v Speaker 2>on the right, why, there have been very few of

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<v Speaker 2>those in my lifetime that have had any of And

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<v Speaker 2>I only became aware of this because I have a friend,

0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 2>really good dude, him and his wife, fantastic, great kids,

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:43.920
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah, all that sort of stuff. But they

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<v Speaker 2>apparently go to every rally that exists, and just and

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<v Speaker 2>the first time I became aware of it member is

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, and he said I see at the rally tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I don't know anything about any rally. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be doing something that I had to

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<v Speaker 2>look it up and there was some rally going on

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<v Speaker 2>in our town that I was a comple unaware of.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's just like, of course, you know, that's what

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 2>we're all doing tomorrow. We're all gonna be at the rally.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I became aware of that. Yeah, that's that's

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 2>what you do everyone. I don't know what email thing

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.399
<v Speaker 2>you get on where you get the alert all the time,

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.679
<v Speaker 2>but you go to them all. Wow, just what you do.

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<v Speaker 4>You were prescient in your question about personality types.

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<v Speaker 2>You tend to lean left.

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<v Speaker 4>The Good Doctor rights on the composition of these rallies

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<v Speaker 4>help helps explain part of their dynamic. According to a

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<v Speaker 4>survey conducted at No Kings rally in the District of Columbia,

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 4>attendees skew heavily towards highly educated, left leaning white women

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 4>in their forties who probably don't have.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids, so they have time to go to a rally

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<v Speaker 2>because they're not at the Little League game or trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get some sleep after a long week or whatever else.

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 4>And this demographic stands at the forefront of the broader

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:56.159
<v Speaker 4>shift towards therapeutic language, in which emotional experience is elevated, validated,

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 4>and often treated as a kind of truth in itself.

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 4>Many learn about the allies through social networks, where political

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.120
<v Speaker 4>views and identity are intertwined.

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, unless fancy language. I remember being.

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<v Speaker 4>Amused and appreciating the thought expressed to us many, many

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 4>years ago. Just because you're mad doesn't mean you're right,

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 4>or just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right. And

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 4>what the good doctor is writing about here is the

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 4>attitude that being offended is proof that I should be offended.

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 4>You don't examine these feelings or question them or challenge them.

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:34.880
<v Speaker 4>You merely affirm them.

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Proof that I'm offended, proof that I should be offended

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 2>is that I am offended, which turns psychotherapy on its head.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been battling, Katie. Any thoughts on this based on

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 4>the folks you've run into.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, the folks that I've run into that go

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<v Speaker 8>to these things use them as like a party scene

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 8>though I mean I had yeah, and you know, they'd

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<v Speaker 8>stop at the gas station and grab their tall cans

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<v Speaker 8>beforehand and head out to San Francisco, and it turned

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 8>into you know, yeah, and which side are you on?

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<v Speaker 2>So it's either young people without kids or old hippies

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.719
<v Speaker 2>whose kids are grown. I just can't believe that if

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 2>you got children, there's a lot that as a percentage,

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 2>that's very many of the people.

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, none of them had kids at this at this time,

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 8>still don't.

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, it's it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>This is you know, it's really an intersection of so

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 4>many different aspects of human beings and how odd we are.

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 4>But like, if I go to, uh, you know, my

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 4>favorite sports team game and we're all cheering and wearing

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 4>similar gear and colors and the rest of.

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 2>It, it's fun. It feels good to be part of

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 2>a crowd that you're all pulling for the same thing.

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 2>And hey, wait a minute, I'm cheering for the cops.

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 2>You're cheering for the cops. Yeah, we high five.

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<v Speaker 4>We've never met each other, we'll never see each other again.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I hate them. I hate them. I play for

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 2>a city that's somewhat further from my.

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 4>Home address than this team, so I hate them anyway, right, Ah,

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.120
<v Speaker 4>I was I gonna say, oh, but I don't let

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 4>that like dictate my politics.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. People are strange. Uh. Many rallies have

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 2>taken on a performative, even theatrical quality, with costumes and

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 2>exaggerated symbolism, replacing direct political engagement. That approach lowers the

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 2>stakes of confrontation, but reinforces the idea that the primary

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 2>goal is expression rather than persuasion, and the pattern extends

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 2>beyond protests. In some corners of the culture, people have committed,

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.159
<v Speaker 2>who have committed or been accused of violence, such as

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Luigi Mangioni, have been recast as anti establishment symbols, valued

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.919
<v Speaker 2>less for their actions than for what they appear to represent.

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 2>The details differ, but the impulse is the same, a

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:56.160
<v Speaker 2>search for villains who make anger feel justified. Yeah, yeah,

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 2>human beings. What are you gonna do with them?

0:27:58.400 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>That reminds me maybe later.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm always cautious of relatives of Martin Luther King because

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 4>a lot of them, some of them are grifters and phonies.

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 4>But one of his nephews wrote a great piece on

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 4>what was it entitled? It had a very great simple title. Essentially,

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 4>You're not Your demonstrations are not what doctor King wanted

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 4>us to do. You're not protesting like doctor King, he said,

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 4>and he explains why, and I think he would be

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 4>not only in agreement with the writer I was just quoting,

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 4>but anybody who despises like Antifa and the pro Palestine

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 4>window smashers.

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, more on that later. So didn't get to

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 2>the story yesterday in Redley, California, which I don't know

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 2>that I knew of, which is down by Fresmo, Fresno,

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>or oh by Fresno, depending where you're listening right now,

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 2>or three thousand miles from you. I don't know where

0:28:56.280 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you're listening right now. Over by fres they found a

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 2>lab that was operated by a Chinese national that was

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 2>full of HIV, malaria, covid obola, and all kinds of

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 2>awful things, but similar to a find in Las Vegas,

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 2>also run by a Chinese national. What the hell is

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 2>going on there? Among other things to talk about? Stay here.

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 10>And finally, a video has gained attention online of a

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 10>gray squirrel in London carrying a vape pen. So congratulations,

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 10>the very first squirrel in history to figure out a way.

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 2>To relax uptight squirrels. Hey, here's a text. This came

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>up on the show and it's worth revisiting about putting

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 2>on your socks standing up. Oh no, yesterday you all

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 2>mentioned how unusual it seemed that a listener normally put

0:29:56.880 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>on their socks while standing. Well, well, that's unusual. Also

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 2>incredibly unusual was that person thought everybody else did it

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 2>that way and was surprised to find out that people

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 2>think that's odd and people sit to put on their socks.

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<v Speaker 4>I merely admire their flexibility and athletic ability.

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Could I even do that? I think I could. I don't.

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'll try that anyway. This person goes on to say,

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 2>my wife and I have a standing challenge every day

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 2>to always attempt to put on our socks and shoes

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>while standing instead of sitting down, which is you can imagine,

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 2>is a pretty funny thing to witness. Give it a

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 2>try and do it every day.

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 4>You'll think, Now, the family that plays together stays together,

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 4>and it's kind of funny.

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 2>So I assume you'd put your socks on standing up,

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 2>then your pants, then your shoes on standing up. Pretty

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 2>sure I couldn't put on my shoes and tie them

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>all standing just from a balance standpoint, if.

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 4>You like, went into a half squat and crossed your

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 4>leg over. I know that because that's a that's a

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 4>hip stretch I have to do constantly, really without touching

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 4>a wall. U it helps to have a golf club

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 4>in hand, for instance. So yeah, it is socks then

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 4>pants kind of shoes. I've always I've always.

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 8>Done it standing up. And then I told that story

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 8>since I got pregnant, and I decided to try it

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 8>while I was pregnant and almost broke my face.

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 2>I stop, your ciner, gravity has shifted. You always done

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 2>You've always done what's standing up? Put my socks on you?

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 2>You have always done that standing up? Did I miss

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 2>that yesterday? You put on your socks standing up? I

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 2>do your whole life. Yeah, I've just always done it.

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 8>But then it was like a couple of weeks ago

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 8>that I tried it and I smashed my face into

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 8>the back of my office chair.

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 2>And I've never done it again. You know now that

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I've never really thought about it before. But I think

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 2>I have seen lots of women throughout my life who

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 2>put on their socks standing up.

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, there's no need to sit down to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, I've not witnessed the socification of many different women

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 4>I've got to admit my sample size is smallish.

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going like just you know, just like I think,

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:13.239
<v Speaker 2>like my nieces put on their socks and shoes standing up,

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, like I'll athletic and young.

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:17.959
<v Speaker 8>I'll slip my shoes on standing up, but I have

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 8>to sit to tie them.

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Time to go to the restaurant, Okay, and they stand

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:23.719
<v Speaker 2>up and put on their socks and shoes.

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Heck, I sit down to put on a hat. I

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 4>just safety first, Katie, you know, safety first.

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm like Joe, I just fall over. I'm gonna

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 2>try that tonight, see if I can do it. Okay,

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>that's a good one. How much time I got here, Michael,

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 2>try to determine three minutes? Okay, plenty of time. So

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<v Speaker 2>this has happened more than once in the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>but here's the latest. This is from the Los Angeles Times.

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<v Speaker 2>The case of a lifetime started with a putrid smell

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 2>and a green garden hose sticking out of the side

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:56.479
<v Speaker 2>of a supposedly vacant warehouse in California farm Country near Fresno.

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Inside the sprawling building, code enforcement officer Jesslyn Harper found

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 2>vials filled with liquid, some marked in English or Chinese,

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 2>others with just a code that bore frightening labels such

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>as malaria, COVID nineteen HIV refrigerators lined up in columns

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 2>along a wall that had labels that read blood and

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 2>a bola. Can you imagine you get called to what

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 2>you thought was a vacant warehouse and you go in

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 2>there and you see all those labels, jes it freak out.

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 2>As she walked deeper into the warehouse, passing lab workers

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 2>filling pregnancy test kits, she located the source of the

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 2>smell that had brought her there, droppings from one thousand

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 2>lab tested mice. She told the La Times during a

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>recent interview. The workers were nice enough, she said, but

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 2>when she started asking questions, the mood changed. I realized

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm in trouble on any to get out of this

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 2>building without tipping them off, that I'm scared. Her discovery

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 2>blew open in an elaborate criminal case with ties to California, Vegas,

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 2>and China. Joe mentioned the Vegas version of this, It's

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 2>a lab part of an elaborate scheme to import COVID

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 2>tests from China and pass them off as American made Okay,

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 2>that's one thing. You're trying to get illegal COVID tests

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 2>in the United States when that was a booming business.

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 2>But what's with all the bola and HIV and blood

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Is a bola test from their cvs or just a

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 2>bola itself? Anyway, the investigation is ongoing, and the places

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 2>run by Chinese nationals, and they're trying to figure out

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 2>what was going on there. Don't trust China.

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 4>Our good friend Kevin Kylie, Republicans soon to be jerry

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 4>mandered out of his district in California, put out a

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 4>statement back in February about both of these labs and

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:49.800
<v Speaker 4>says specifically that they are Chinese Communist Party linked, which.

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Everything really Chinese is Chinese Communist Party linked pretty much.

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 4>But this one is definitely indisputably so it's it's a

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 4>Chinese Communist Party bio weapons lab in the US two.

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Of them, at least two of them. Wow, And for

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 2>what purpose to unleash that stuff on us if they

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>wanted to? Yeah, we were a soft country. You think

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 2>they would allow a US owned lab full of a

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 2>bola to just show up somewhere in China.

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 4>The Chinese constantly use our openness as a society to

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<v Speaker 4>try to bring us down every day.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a heck of a story. Armstrong and Getty