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Speaker 2: It's Thursday, April twenty second. We've got a huge show

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Speaker 2: for you today. We're talking about Vivian Viviyon. We're handing

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Speaker 2: out our booker Boy of the Week. We're talking Steph

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Speaker 2: So before we get to all that, I got to

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Speaker 2: introduce my good buddies hosts of Jenkins and Jones, the

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Speaker 2: Jethro Jenkins aka John.

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Speaker 4: Hell Ice my voice like squeak.

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Speaker 3: Did you hear that? Oh, guys, white boy voice? That

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Speaker 3: was the actual white man boy?

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Speaker 2: What the white guy voices is becoming a white man voice.

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Speaker 1: Of this ship right now? Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm a god wait, wait to bring way to bring

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Speaker 1: us back White ship boy.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was all bad killed.

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Speaker 5: I can't say nigga the whole podcast, get us Able.

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Speaker 3: Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Uh, well, we were gonna start where we have to start,

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Speaker 2: uh with Viviall Vivian the saga, the greatest scandal. This

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Speaker 2: is why Twitter still exists, just for a ship like this, Bro, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: can you give us the ninety second sixty second however

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Speaker 2: many second versions of what the fuck happened with Vivian?

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Speaker 1: Bro, I'll give you the elevator cell as they say.

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Speaker 1: So basically, okay, there was this there's this account, this

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Speaker 1: this account that was pretty active on Lakers Twitter butterfly

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Speaker 1: for twenty four something like that, right known as who

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Speaker 1: we now know is Vivian Vivion. We'll come back to that, Vivian,

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Speaker 1: Vivian Vivion. Well anyway, so you know this, yeah, so,

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Speaker 1: so this is an account that was pretty popular with

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Speaker 1: the Lakers Twitter, Lakers Nation. And to give you the

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Speaker 1: background story on this person, this was a very pretty

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Speaker 1: young lady seems to be mid twenties or solf whose

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Speaker 1: story was that she played ball overseas, she battled leukemia,

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Speaker 1: she drove a bit leaf.

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Speaker 2: Hey, that's the that's the catfish account trifector right there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So so anyway, this person who was very beloved

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Speaker 1: in Laker's Twitter, there's this other account, this dude named

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Speaker 1: Josh Josh too Saints. He he tweets on Sunday afternoon that,

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Speaker 1: you know, Vivian, this account is going missing in you know,

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Speaker 1: he posted a picture he said, you know, she might

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Speaker 1: have a way, she might not because she's battle with

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Speaker 1: leukemia and you know, be on the lookout for her

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Speaker 1: in her twenty twenty Bentley and so.

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Speaker 3: Bro, this man had a movie.

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Speaker 4: He should have stayed off Twitter and wrote a fucking movie.

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Speaker 4: He be rich right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so basically it kind of all boils down

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Speaker 1: where where people are kind of just figuring out, like

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Speaker 1: you know, people scroll the media and they're seeing all

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Speaker 1: these photoshop pictures like the the this and this is

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Speaker 1: like two thousand and three era type photos, like this

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Speaker 1: is some shit you should not have been flying in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, right and weird, and everyone's

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Speaker 1: looking like, yo, this is not this is not a

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Speaker 1: real person. And it's just been kind of exposed that

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Speaker 1: she wasn't a real person. So you know, Twitter took

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Speaker 1: off with the jokes liting the Josh two Saints, you know,

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Speaker 1: their speculation that he was the behind it. Then the

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Speaker 1: next day Vivian Vivian posts a picture with her name

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Speaker 1: is spelled they had been spelled the iv i A

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Speaker 1: and you know she did it. This is me, I'm real,

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Speaker 1: holding up a piece of paper with her name and

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Speaker 1: she misspelled it there and so then after that, after

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Speaker 1: people were like no for that, she deleted her fucking account.

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Speaker 1: So now we have no idea if this Joshtu was

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Speaker 1: behind it or what. But that's where we're at.

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Speaker 2: So here's what we know. There was a catfish. The

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Speaker 2: question is did Josh two Saints. Was he catfishing us

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Speaker 2: by having an imaginary person he was doing a podcast with,

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Speaker 2: or was he being catfished by an unidentified third party

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Speaker 2: behind this Vivian account. It's pretty obvious that the Vivian

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Speaker 2: account is fake. The photoshops, as you said, are fucking outrageous.

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Speaker 3: If you have not seen them.

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Speaker 2: They've traced them to someone was Google searching like Philippine

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Speaker 2: know basketball player and just slapping a fucking head on

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Speaker 2: it and click heart like it's so bad.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: So that's the question. We're not fucking detectives. We're not

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Speaker 2: trying to get all the details of this story, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to twitter. That's for Twitter is just

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Speaker 2: here to laugh. We're here to laugh at at what's

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Speaker 2: in my opinion. I mean, so if we miss if

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Speaker 2: we misstate something here, please you don't need to tweet

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Speaker 2: us a correction. And also let me say that you

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Speaker 2: don't know the number one, you don't need to tweet

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Speaker 2: us asking us to talk about this kind of ship.

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Speaker 3: We live for this ship, like, yeah.

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Speaker 1: This is this, This is the hard hitting journalism that

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Speaker 1: chickens and chokes has our head off.

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Speaker 6: This is what you're here for.

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Speaker 5: I just think that the catfish like that, that's a

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Speaker 5: double catfish that's going on.

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Speaker 3: If he's behind.

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Speaker 5: It for ten years and a year, he is twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Now he's been doing it since fifteen.

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Speaker 1: But there was there was this other fucking surprise character

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Speaker 1: that emerged, this guy named Walid who was a friend.

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Speaker 3: Of Josh and wa lead. The Middle Eastern dude, Yeah

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Speaker 3: with the long hair.

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Speaker 4: He's he's like, he's like a social media guy.

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Speaker 1: I know, well he's on social media, so I mean

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Speaker 1: like no, like this dude is like, oh no, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I damn, I used to work with Homie. I need

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Speaker 3: to hit that man.

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Speaker 1: But and the Twitter Detective, because there was a pod where,

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Speaker 1: you know, Josh and Vivian were on and people like,

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Speaker 1: this motherfucker's crazy because he's interviewing himself. But people pitched

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Speaker 1: down while Lead's voice and it sounded like Vivin, So

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Speaker 1: people aren't sure about that either.

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Speaker 6: So we don't know about this surprise character who we emerged,

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Speaker 6: so the plot thickens.

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Speaker 4: You know what I love about this.

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Speaker 3: It's so weird.

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Speaker 5: It's so weird, but it's Twitter, so it's not that's

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Speaker 5: very Twitter. It's really a very normal thing on Twitter, almost,

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Speaker 5: which is but I love that part about it.

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Speaker 3: But this ship is fucking Tyler. You you were.

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Speaker 4: You were on the case.

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Speaker 3: My buddy is fucking bad, right, Yo, you were deep.

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Speaker 3: You were def in it, bro.

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Speaker 6: She was stringing this one dude alone for ten years.

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Speaker 6: Did you see that ship? Some dude named Kings I

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Speaker 6: think his name was.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, oh yeah, oh no, no no.

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Speaker 2: And that's the other wrinkle we should mention is that

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Speaker 2: I believe that's kind of how.

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Speaker 3: It got out. Yeah, he was talking.

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Speaker 2: About it and ended up in a Twitter spaces with

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. Yeah, because all rose lead back, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Vivian might be Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 3: That was one of the theories coming around, like all

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Speaker 3: roads lead back.

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Speaker 5: He's the center of the Internet Twitter universe at this point,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, He's the sun.

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Speaker 2: That was the first way I heard about it was

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Speaker 2: KD making fun of this dude for getting catfished.

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Speaker 4: Saying saying, old boy ain't got cakes in a long time.

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Speaker 7: Bro, he's slept no cakes, submitted applying that you know

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Speaker 7: what I mean, when the last time the last time

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Speaker 7: you've had sex, mister King's.

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Speaker 6: Mister King's Kings. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, they said, you know, he was dealing

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Speaker 1: with her for damn near decade and then he just

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Speaker 1: gave it up because she like refused the video chat

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Speaker 1: or whatever, and that's when she quote unquote went missing

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Speaker 1: and told everyone that she was missing, and that's when

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Speaker 1: the cover got blown.

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Speaker 5: So if you've been dealing with somebody for ten years,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like you didn't just quit.

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Speaker 3: That's ten years in.

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Speaker 5: Bro, You know what I'm saying, like video chat, how

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Speaker 5: long have we had FaceTime?

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Speaker 3: She refused the video chat. You could have skyped her,

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Speaker 3: and she was self conscious. She says she was self conscious, but.

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Speaker 4: A decade in y'all been talking for a decade, you know.

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Speaker 3: What I mean? Like, Bro, Josh Tussaints recorded a podcast

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Speaker 3: with her.

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Speaker 5: Bro, I mean, I've been missing, but she was saying

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Speaker 5: she wanted to do it via like voicemail.

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Speaker 7: The voicemaig catfish have y'all?

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Speaker 3: Ever?

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Speaker 4: Has anybody attempted to catfish y'all?

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've known catfish when I see it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm usually right if that person lines up kidding

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Speaker 1: it spoken.

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Speaker 2: People have catfished as me on the internet because I'm

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Speaker 2: a sports writer or whatever, and you know I cover kids,

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Speaker 2: so they think that shit's funny.

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Speaker 3: But I've never been catfished.

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Speaker 5: I was somebody tried to catfish me in like like

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Speaker 5: early Twitter, bro, like like twoenty eleven, you feel me?

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Speaker 4: And I think, like by sentence eight.

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Speaker 5: By like the third a real person, bro, Like look, look,

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Speaker 5: I mean it was a real person, but they weren't

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Speaker 5: that person the photos.

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Speaker 3: That were being sent to me.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, dog, I'm what at the time, late twenties,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like by twenty seven, you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like twenty eight, Like that, bro,

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Speaker 5: I don't have no money, Like.

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Speaker 4: Why the fuck would you fuck with me? There is

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Speaker 4: no way this motherfuck?

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Speaker 3: What's John Nickols? That's you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, we can hold leave this alone. She dude

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Speaker 8: yachts and all this shit. I'm like, all right, I

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Speaker 8: drive a Honda a Cord at the time. Okay, you

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Speaker 8: know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: I'm living paycheck to paycheck and it's not paid to paycheck.

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Speaker 5: I'm living paycheck to probably three days before the next paycheck.

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Speaker 4: You feel me, There's no fucking way you're gonna go.

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Speaker 5: People try to holler at me on some cause I

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Speaker 5: say funny things on Twitter.

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Speaker 6: Bro, Like I said, like this catfish.

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Speaker 1: So the dream of a beautiful lady who's wealthy, who's

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Speaker 1: gonna show for you around in her twenty twenty buley

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Speaker 1: and discuss the Lakers with you? How can naive or

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Speaker 1: how ridiculously optimistic are you to think that a beautiful

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Speaker 1: woman is going to be romantically interested in you and

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Speaker 1: pick you up in a twenty twenty Bitley to discuss

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Speaker 1: Lebron and ad pick and roll.

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Speaker 2: No to discuss whether whether Caruso had his feet set

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Speaker 2: when he took the chart.

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Speaker 5: Like right, like dog, that's narcissism, bro, That's more than

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Speaker 5: just naivity, Like.

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Speaker 4: You really think you really think?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: The fact that that exists is amazing and that.

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Speaker 6: Would want you for you because you got some good tweets.

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Speaker 4: This right, you know what I'm saying, Like this ain't

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Speaker 4: sleepless in Seattle.

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Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying, Like the you watching a

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Speaker 7: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: You might be in the motherfucking Geo Metro, you know

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Speaker 6: Fuck out here with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was definitely thinking that he was the

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Speaker 6: But his things have but his things have unfurled. I'm

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Speaker 1: I think I think he got caught up to I'm

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Speaker 6: But I don't think that Josh is.

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Speaker 5: Respond like she didn't respond to him, and that's why

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Speaker 6: Her sister hit him on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: I think right d m.

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Speaker 2: Him and said she's missing, can you help? I mean,

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Speaker 3: Is because she was missing.

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Speaker 2: Laker's Twitter was like everyone was looking for like everyone

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Speaker 3: I mean, mark players on the team.

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Speaker 4: They're getting secure to come help and find you know

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Speaker 3: So so that that's nice.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's you know, that's a that's a nice

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Speaker 2: And he was clear, I mean to me and I'm

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Speaker 2: It's super fucking embarrassing, you know whatever, And I'm just

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Speaker 5: And second of all, like to what ends broucking weirdo?

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Speaker 4: There's a bunch of these out here, bro who.

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Speaker 3: Just like they're not trying to make any money. Bro,

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Speaker 3: Like they're lonely.

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Speaker 5: They want to be a person they're not, and they

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, body, I try and get engagement

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Speaker 5: You can't take out the fact that you're not a

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Speaker 3: Okay, bro, right right?

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Speaker 5: Dog Like you would have deleted your account because you've

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Speaker 5: never been embarrassed like that. Joshua two sayings based upon

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Speaker 5: The number of Times, Bro, Like most people wouldn't have

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Speaker 4: Bro, I mean, it really is kind of fucked up.

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Speaker 3: It's more it's I mean.

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Speaker 2: And on top of that, if I was him, I

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Speaker 3: I mean like that, like no, I mean.

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Speaker 4: You have to know?

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Speaker 3: Is that what we're talking about?

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Speaker 2: Like I'd be hiring a like a private investigator for real,

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Speaker 3: I've never heard. We got to go a little a

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Speaker 3: little noir, you feel.

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Speaker 10: Little private dick, a gum shoe.

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Speaker 6: We got a wise guy.

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Speaker 9: I got a wise yeah, private dick anyway, I will

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Speaker 9: I will say this.

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Speaker 3: I do. I haven't been catfish.

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Speaker 2: I do feel like as someone who is currently on

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Speaker 2: Little bit of an authority on on the verification steps

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Speaker 3: And that that's like crazy.

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Speaker 2: We used to joke all the time on the pot

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Speaker 2: about like for all people know, Tyler doesn't have any

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Speaker 3: Going crazy.

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Speaker 1: That's always one of my theories. Eighty percent of people

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Speaker 5: Who they thought you were a Russian operative, Yes, they

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Speaker 1: They thought I was the fans the Russian operative, a

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Speaker 2: I remember, before we even knew each other, someone called

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Speaker 2: I had to back where I was like this, And

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Speaker 2: that's the survival skill you need to not get catfish

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Speaker 2: once you start getting emotional about ship on the Internet

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Speaker 1: You know exactly, Like like I don't think I would

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Speaker 1: ever be annoyed, irritator whatever at a cappish. This ship

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Speaker 1: is hilarious to me, right, It's funny as fuck, Like like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't familiar with this girl, but you

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Speaker 1: know I was like when when she quote unquote went missing,

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Speaker 1: I retweeted the twiteter too, because you know, I wanted

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Speaker 6: Know, to get found safe.

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Speaker 1: But then when the ship came out, when the tweet

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Speaker 1: last vehicle she was seeing in a twenty twenty Bitley

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Speaker 6: That's when the records scratched for me.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like the Scooby Doo twenty GT. That's the

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Speaker 1: card to me on the lookout for for this foreign

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Speaker 1: baller Leukemiuge. And that's the bullshit too. She threw that

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Speaker 1: cancer shit and so we wanted question. That's a classic

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Speaker 1: catfish trick. You throwing the cancer card so people feel

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Speaker 5: Bros, that cancer will make you want to, you know,

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Speaker 5: support that personality.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 5: She really played on him being a solid dude. That's

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Speaker 5: really fucked up out here though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's why I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when people have the times that people have

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Speaker 2: it's I don't usually find it funny because it's like, bro,

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Speaker 2: we it's kind of like with the Internet, it's.

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Speaker 3: Like traffic signals. We all know anytime you leave the house.

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Speaker 2: In your car, someone could just decide to run straight

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Speaker 3: Your whole family whatever, Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 2: We but like we all know that in the world,

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Speaker 4: Talking about canvas and you know.

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Speaker 6: About the same thing.

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Speaker 3: It's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: We also all know that on the Internet, you're operating

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Speaker 2: under a shared set of assumptions that strangers aren't gonna

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Speaker 2: just try and fuck your life up for no real

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Speaker 2: head because if there were, if we did not operate

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Speaker 2: on that assumption, none of us would have a fucking

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Speaker 2: Twitter account, right, Like, we just wouldn't be.

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Speaker 3: On the Internet. And so it's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you're hacking this dude being a decent person,

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Speaker 2: and the fact that like people are inherently more trusting

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Speaker 3: One, especially a photoshop temans. I mean, the photoshops are bad, bro.

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Speaker 5: Some of the those are the photo shops that like

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Speaker 5: when when like you would go on porn sites back

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Speaker 5: in the day and so like you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: Like I'm not gonna say anybody's name, but so and

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Speaker 5: so nudes and I mean I was like fucking seventeen.

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Speaker 4: Like oh my god, you know what I mean, bro.

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Speaker 2: Obviously not true you know what I mean, So I

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Speaker 2: you know, I let me say this. I hope we

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Speaker 2: don't I hope we don't learn anything else about this ship.

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Speaker 2: I hope we don't find out who was running a

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Speaker 2: Vivian account, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I hope we can funny and leave me here where

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Speaker 3: it's funny.

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Speaker 5: I don't want even getting locked up over some fuck

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Speaker 2: I mean, on a last, last last note, people do

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Speaker 2: not go missing in Bentley's bro.

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Speaker 4: Everybody knows where the Bentley's at.

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Speaker 3: They might know where the humans at. They know where

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Speaker 3: at that motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: That motherfucker probably got the same technology that NASA has

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Speaker 1: for their satellite. Find a motherfucking Bentley like zero eight seconds, bro,

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Speaker 1: you can fly a Baitley.

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Speaker 3: To the moon. All right.

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Speaker 2: Well, the saga saga of Vivion got us through this Vivian.

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Speaker 3: Vivian got us.

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Speaker 5: I really want to know how she pronounced her name now,

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Speaker 5: because that would be great if if it was like Vivion,

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Speaker 5: Honestly, I I talked to the Strolder yesterday and he

446
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 5: said that Ad is making sure that he was not

447
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 5: coming back until he's one hundred and ten percent, so

448
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 5: he ain't on some like trying to push it push.

449
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 4: He's like, no, I want to make sure everything's straight.

450
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 5: So I feel confident in that that Adi's not putting

451
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 5: himself in harm's way just to win a couple of

452
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 5: regular season fucking games. And the Lakers I think are

453
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 5: like eight and six or some shit without them, so

454
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 5: like they're they're maintaining to a degree.

455
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 3: You know, Like, so I don't think he's rushing back

456
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: for that reason.

457
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 5: I'm I feel confident in that.

458
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: So you're just you're letting yourself just be purely excited

459
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: that he's back, and you get.

460
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 5: But I want him to get the reps obviously before

461
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 5: the postseason.

462
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 4: I want Brian to come back.

463
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 5: And get some reps together, get back to get that

464
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 5: timing together so they can be like, you know, got

465
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 5: to get that.

466
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 3: Train roly, you know what I'm saying.

467
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,479
Speaker 5: But like, as far as like him being back and

468
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 5: like this season has just been such a fucking mess.

469
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 5: Dog Like, you know, I'm more happy about him being

470
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 5: healthy than him actually playing, you know what I'm saying.

471
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, same shit.

472
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck about these regular season wins

473
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: the losses. As Ady says he's good to go, I'm

474
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: happy about that because he's someone who has absolutely told

475
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: you know, other teams, you know, kiss my ass, I'll

476
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: come back when I'm ready, like he did with the Pelicans.

477
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 6: So you know, if he says he's good to go,

478
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 6: he's good to go. So good news there.

479
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I'm it's exactly what John said.

480
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: I think we saw with I think the Clippers saw

481
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: last year. I mean, you can't just get everyone healthy

482
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: for the start of the playoffs and then snap your

483
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: fingers and and you're ready to win a championship. I

484
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 2: mean you have to, you know, get some reps. Obviously

485
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: they played together a lot. But I'm glad he's coming

486
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: back in time. Bron you know, looks like he's making progress,

487
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: so he'll be back a little bit you know before

488
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 2: as well.

489
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: So all that's all.

490
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: That's good news because it's exactly what you said this

491
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 2: regular season and I will remember how shitty this season

492
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: of basketball was for a long time.

493
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like like like, dude, what player have we mentioned,

494
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 5: like even like like on the outskirts of MVP that

495
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,479
Speaker 5: hasn't been hurt, you know what I mean, It's like

496
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 5: every guy has gone down, even like Dame's hurt now

497
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 5: even well he's coming back I think Thursday, coming back

498
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 5: to tomorrow, which is yea, which will be today.

499
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 4: When you hear this, but you know what I mean,

500
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 4: Like right, but yeah, like you know, I.

501
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: Mean, everybody's heard like we could.

502
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 5: There's a long list, and I just and also it's

503
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 5: weird that the NBA came back and was like, hey,

504
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 5: injuries are down, trying to you know, that was so

505
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 5: gross to me, Like we all see what's happening. Players

506
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 5: are saying, even though they all agree to play, the

507
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 5: players are saying this it we should do this again.

508
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 5: Don't say this in hopes that we'll get behind this

509
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 5: again or anybody will, because we see the effect of

510
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 5: playing six games in eight days or seven.

511
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 2: Out of all and playing, you know, for some of

512
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: these teams just like two months after last season ended.

513
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: I think is right at least as big as as

514
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: the number of games per week. John, you said someone

515
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: hit you up on Twitter asking about we've obviously all

516
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: been loving watching Steph appointment viewing for the last couple

517
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: of weeks. You said someone hit you up asking if

518
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: you thought steph season this year was better than Westbrook's

519
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: MVP year.

520
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say somebody hit me up.

521
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 5: My homegirl, Sirri it watches undunk, but we talk about

522
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 5: this too. She hit me up saying that, like that

523
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 5: was we were talking about, Like, Yo, this do I

524
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 5: think that Steph's this? You know, this this season, steph

525
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 5: season he's having is better than you know, like the

526
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 5: MVP year. And I'm like, dude, I love what Steph's

527
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 5: doing right now, and I don't want to argue against Steph,

528
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because like I'm having a ball,

529
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 5: Like what this moment, this peak, i'd say, is better

530
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 5: than what most basketball I've ever seen.

531
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck who's playing, you know what

532
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 4: I mean, This.

533
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 5: This what he's had, This moment he's having is absolutely

534
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 5: fucking insane over these like last ten games or something.

535
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 5: But like the year as a whole, No, I mean,

536
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 5: Westbrook broke up fifty five year fucking you know what

537
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 5: I'm saying, record with triple doubles, having forty two, he

538
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 5: averaged thirty one, was clutch as fuck, led the league

539
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 5: and fourth quarter points.

540
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like dog, like I mean,

541
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 4: and dude, we.

542
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 5: Talk about you know, she was One thing she mentioned

543
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 5: was that, you know, he had some distant players on

544
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 5: his team, but they weren't as good as they are

545
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 5: now when he was playing with them. Depot wasn't Depot

546
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 5: back then. You know what I'm saying. Like he had

547
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 5: a bad year, actually, you know what I'm saying, And like, dude,

548
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 5: I mean what he did to get that team in

549
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 5: a set to to I think what's six in the

550
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 5: in the West was it was incredible, Like the twenty

551
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 5: twenty twenty game incredible, but like, you know, as great

552
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 5: as what Steph's doing, the team still tenth in the

553
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 5: fucking West.

554
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 4: They're trying to make it into the fucking playoff.

555
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. They play into the playoff. Yeah,

556
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like they're not trying to

557
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 5: make it to the play attorney.

558
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 4: So like what I love watching it. We're all hitting

559
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 4: each other up, like, yo, Steph fucking playing you know.

560
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: What I mean. STEP's having a Steph game. But I don't.

561
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say this season compares.

562
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, it goes back to what to

563
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: what you said. What Steph is doing right now is

564
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: absolutely fucking ridiculous. But it's kind of like even when

565
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: he's fastest, we still.

566
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 6: Don't know if that if Golden State's gonna win.

567
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: Like when when Russ flit that switch, you know in

568
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: sixty seventy, it was like, okay, okay, see it's winning

569
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: this fucking game, you know what I mean, Like he

570
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: would do whatever needed to be done and not at

571
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: out saying Steph doesn't do all he can't guess he's

572
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: laying that shit out there every night too, But it was,

573
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: it was, it was just it's it's so different, right

574
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: because Steph is just super smooth, right, and Russ is

575
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: a fucking force of major. Right, So it's two different

576
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: playing styles to compare two different, you know, completely different players.

577
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: But I do think I was a bit more in

578
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: all at Russ's season than I am at this season

579
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: before Steph.

580
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 11: Yeah, And I mean when I was saying the Russ

581
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 11: is a better player, you know what I mean, Like

582
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 11: we're not, you know what I'm saying, like not but

583
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 11: but you know what I'm saying, I I I'm enjoying the.

584
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 4: Hell out of what stuff is doing.

585
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: This peak.

586
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 5: I think this peak is better than, like I said,

587
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 5: most people have seen. But I mean, like the season

588
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 5: as a whole was insane, you know, like you know,

589
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 5: and and they and they made it to the playoffs,

590
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying with that bomb ass squadi hat,

591
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

592
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: I'm so curious about, like fifteen years from now, how

593
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: will we and how the younger generation will look back

594
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 2: at these guys. Like there's so many dudes that are

595
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: good and in kind of unique ways right now, like

596
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: the Steph Dame Russ Harden, like guard class is it's

597
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: such a fascinating different group of players.

598
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure.

599
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Well, and they're so different but we also know,

600
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: like five dudes who played at the same time don't

601
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: make it fifteen years down the road in terms of

602
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: the cultural imagination, you.

603
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

604
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: So, like you think of even watching like Last Dance,

605
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: which obviously went pretty in depth, like these dudes who

606
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: were playing against the Bulls, I mean, they're legends, they

607
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: are covers of magazines and all this stuff, and now

608
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: they're kind of like, oh, yeah, yeah, he played when

609
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: Jordan was playing in the cultural knowledge, you know what

610
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: I mean, not to basketball guy herds. So I'm curious

611
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: about that because I feel like Steph will be the guy,

612
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Steph will be sort of

613
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: the transcendent figure that just because he's got so many

614
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: kids who love him.

615
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: But I mean, I'm basketball that he broke, you know

616
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: what I mean. You know what I'm saying.

617
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 4: But like, I mean, I think that's interesting.

618
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 5: Also I wonder that, like, like I think the thing

619
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 5: about Russ is like Russ's played with who has some

620
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 5: great teammates, you know what I'm saying. And people say

621
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 5: that these triple doubles don't necessarily equate equate to winning.

622
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 4: You know, He's won.

623
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't want to chip, you know, but

624
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 5: I mean he's you know, he's been.

625
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 4: Constantly playing in the playoffs.

626
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 5: But yeah, like I just think I think the thing

627
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 5: with him is it hasn't equated to greatness in the

628
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 5: way that we thought it would.

629
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 4: If you would, if you were just to say.

630
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 5: His numbers, you would think we'd be talking about a

631
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 5: top thirty player ever or top twenty player ever based

632
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 5: upon all the triple doubles hit his numbers alone. But like,

633
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 5: you know, he'll he'll probably be in that top seventy five,

634
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 5: you know, like players ever, you know, when they make

635
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 5: that list, But where will he be. A guy with

636
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 5: the type of numbers and the type of you know,

637
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 5: things he done will not be where he probably should

638
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 5: because you know, like those numbers happen to credit to

639
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 5: greatst like.

640
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: That they're fun.

641
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 5: But like the thing with Steph is Steph is hell

642
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 5: of fun and Steph is he's out of this fucking

643
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 5: world when it comes to greatness. And there's that difference.

644
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 5: But I mean, like there's really no comparison to the two.

645
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 5: Like we said, we're not comparing the two, We're just

646
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 5: comparing the season.

647
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: So right, But yeah, and I.

648
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: Was I was gonna say Russ, Russ is in an

649
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: error now where we have seen offenses move as streamlined

650
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: efficient machines, right, and Russ himself is the fucking machine, right,

651
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: So so he's kind of been outlier there where he's

652
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: not someone who's bron Yeah, yeah, you know, Russ isn't

653
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: isn't someone who's gonna necessarily help your offense flow flows

654
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: smooth or flow easier. He's someone who's you know, you

655
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: give him the ball and Russ is gonna do Russ shit,

656
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's something that that

657
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: will have to consider to win evaluating him. Like, like

658
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: Mike said, like I think the podium, the gold silver

659
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: Brons Pudium for this era is gonna be Kadie Bron Steph.

660
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 3: Right.

661
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 6: Those are gonna be the guys fifteen twenty years from now.

662
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 4: Who are everybody's talking about, right right, right.

663
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the trio there, and and it's gonna

664
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how the other guys fall in

665
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: line after them.

666
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 6: So yeah, I definitely agree with Mike Breh.

667
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: Speaking of the cultural imagination. Uh, the Clippers are playing

668
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: fucking great and it does not no one gives anyone

669
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: cares at all.

670
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 5: Their record is the best in the West, you know

671
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like best period I think in the

672
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 5: NBA since the All Star Break, you know what I mean.

673
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 5: Kawhi is having an incredible fucking year. PG is like

674
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 5: maybe the best year of his career, you know what

675
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 5: I'm saying. More, it's been playing great as of late.

676
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 5: They're doing all this, they're all doing all this winning

677
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 5: without a Bakhu has a back injury, you know what

678
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, and nobody gives a.

679
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 4: Fuck, And I think it's because of PG.

680
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 5: I think, like I think it's because we saw what

681
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 5: happened last year. We saw pandemic p who was up?

682
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 5: Who was a pandemic? P pre pandemic, you know what

683
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 5: I mean. Like you know what I mean, Like in

684
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 5: the playoffs, we saw what he does. I think, like,

685
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 5: and that's so wild to me. The team is this

686
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 5: good that name the top four teams in the West,

687
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 5: with the Jazz, the Suns, the Clippers, and the Nuggets.

688
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: Who's the best.

689
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 5: Team out of those four Clippers and nobody gives a fuck.

690
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 5: Nobody's talking about them, you know what I'm saying, Like

691
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 5: when Adie and bron come back, and if they're healthy

692
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 5: and they're playing smooth, we obviously like they're the best team.

693
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: It's like somebody brings them up.

694
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: You texted us and said, let's talk about the Clippers,

695
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: and I'm literally in My reaction is like, what are

696
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: we gonna talk about with the Clippers?

697
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: So you said they're playing great and no one gives

698
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: a shit. It's like, yeah, you're right. I mean, it's

699
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: just it's that's wild.

700
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 5: I really think what we saw last year ruin the experiment.

701
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 5: We're not interested in that anymore. I saw them ship

702
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 5: their pants against the Nuggets, you know what I mean.

703
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 6: That's exactly what it is.

704
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: They're the the NBA Atlanta Falcons now right, Like the

705
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: Falcons will go twelve and four, thirteen and three, but

706
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: no one gives a fuck because we know you're gonna

707
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: go twenty eight and you know, blow a twenty eight

708
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: three lead in the Super Bowl or you know, like

709
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: like they blew a three one lead in the Western Conference.

710
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: Right right right, I actually think you can stay in

711
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: the NBA. Like they feel very much like James Harden's

712
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: Houston Rockets to me, like yeah, yeah, like we know

713
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: they're good.

714
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we know they're good, but you know, like

715
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: but we've been we've noticed that they're good in the

716
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: regular season a few years in a row. Yeah, but

717
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: they could also be to go to a different sport,

718
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 2: they could also be the Dodgers last year where the

719
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: Dodgers had gone to the World Series and lost a

720
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: couple of times, and so everyone goes and so everyone

721
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: but so everyone goes, you know, yeah, like we know

722
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: they've got all these good dudes, but like, you know,

723
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: and so until they but then they won, and so

724
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: now this year, it's, wow, the Dodgers are this historic team.

725
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: So I just think this is one of the problems

726
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: with basketball with the NBA is like everyone's waiting for

727
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: the playoffs, man, you know, like all this legacy, is

728
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: this team good? Like have you heard anyone actually passionately

729
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: argue about fucking power rankings that wasn't paid to argue

730
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: about power rankings? Like it's just not where fans are

731
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: because the memory of the playoffs.

732
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: Looms so large over the regular.

733
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 5: Season, especially this one, being that nobody's playing in this

734
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 5: regular season, you know what I mean.

735
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I just I just I was watching.

736
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: Like these they're so good.

737
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: I've been looking at that, you know, and I was

738
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 4: listening to the Slippers.

739
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: Fans aren't even talking ship.

740
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: I think the fuck like, we're not gonna do this again, right,

741
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 2: I think that.

742
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 5: But I think that's I think that's why they could

743
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 5: be could be better than this year because there.

744
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: Aren't though some expectations.

745
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 5: They're just playing ball and Paul George may be more

746
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 5: comfortable without the pressures of a chip hanging over them,

747
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

748
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter what people are talking about when

749
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: you get to the playoffs, right like that, once you

750
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: get to the playoffs, it's ships hanging over you, regardless

751
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: of the.

752
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 5: Second matter, right, but with it mattering and the expectations

753
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 5: and when the chip, you know what I'm.

754
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 4: Saying, Like and a guy like you know, Paul George,

755
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 4: you know, just it might not be it, but.

756
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: We shall see, we shall see, we shall see. But

757
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: he's having a good health, a good year.

758
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 5: He's gonna get He's he's the type of duty he

759
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 5: might not ever win anything, but he'll always get paid,

760
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 5: you know what I mean?

761
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: You know me so like so.

762
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: This week, the I I feel like a sleazy lawyer

763
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 2: talking about this ship.

764
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: But I do think it's an important story.

765
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: The relationship between Kobe Bryant's State and Nike reached the

766
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: end of its contractual obligation however you want to say it.

767
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: Obviously we've talked on the podcast about going forward, like

768
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: you don't cease to exist when you pass on from

769
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: this world anymore.

770
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: Like you know, you talking about Bob Ross and the

771
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: Mountain New commercial or whatever it was, right like.

772
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's where we're headed. We're headed in

773
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: that direction. So what did you guys think about this?

774
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 2: And and kind of the end of the Kobe Nike era.

775
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's been said, well, you know that

776
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 1: that Kobe kind of wanted to move away.

777
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 6: That that's what kind of the state of saying.

778
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: And there was a trademark file for like Mamba line,

779
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: so they're probably gonna kick off their own ship. So

780
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: you know, if this was what's the vision that Kobe had,

781
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: and if Essa's tearing out, then who the fuck are

782
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: we to you know, question it. That's them, that's their family,

783
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: that's their states up. You know, best luck to them

784
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: with that.

785
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't question the decision, any decision if that's

786
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 5: it makes when it comes to this, you know what

787
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 5: I'm saying at all you feel me like you know,

788
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 5: But but I will say I loved a lot of

789
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 5: them Kobe's, you know what I mean, Like you know

790
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like, what's crazy? Where the where the

791
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 5: hirachis Kobe's they felt like it was Kobe's.

792
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, though four Hurrachis, he kind of made them his

793
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: because they weren't officially Yeah.

794
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think my favorite Cobe first of all,

795
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 5: like he kind of like they you know, people will

796
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 5: say that Steve Nash revolutionized who shoes by making the

797
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 5: low tops and he was the first person to wear

798
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 5: low tops, But I don't know what motherfucker that was

799
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 5: buying lowtops because of Steve Nash, you know what I mean.

800
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 6: So I didn't even know who the fuck was Steve

801
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 6: Nash with.

802
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 3: I don't even know.

803
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: What he was with the Nike, but he just top

804
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 4: versus of shoes.

805
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I think there was My first pair of

806
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 5: Lotops were actually the first Lebron's. They were like the

807
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 5: Lebron ones. They had some some Olympic versions of them,

808
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 5: and he had a low top pair of my favorite

809
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 5: hooping shoes ever a hootan. But anyway regards to that,

810
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like everybody was wearing low

811
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 5: tops once Kobe started making those low tops, you feel me?

812
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 5: And like though, I think the sixes, like the Christmas

813
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 5: Sixes with that green socking them that them and the

814
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 5: Pride to Grenches are my two favorite Kobes. Kobe's you

815
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like, I love them shits man.

816
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 5: I actually got the grinches off of golt On.

817
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 4: Some like fuck it, let me go ahead and caught these.

818
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 5: They ain't making no more. I don't even know if

819
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 5: they can retro them anymore. Let me cop and have

820
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 5: you know a pair? You know, yeah, just in the vault,

821
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 5: you feel me.

822
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 6: Blueagoon Sands are my favorite koches. I got a pair.

823
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: I love them to death. It's one of the prettiest

824
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: sneakers I've ever seen in my life. I love the

825
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: blue Lagoon Sands.

826
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 5: And then all the protrolls they had whatever, like all

827
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 5: the like the very different variations they were dropping, like

828
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 5: all the leaguers had them on like that Kobe line.

829
00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, you.

830
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 4: Know, I think that's probably second to MJ. You know

831
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 4: what I'm saying as far as in like, you know,

832
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 4: may I mean Penny might be.

833
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: Third, you know what I'm saying.

834
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 5: And I think that's that's one, two and three and

835
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 5: there's I mean, everybody else is four.

836
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like I don't know anybody.

837
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you know.

838
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 4: Bron has had his shoes, but you know.

839
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's about four out of like thirteen Bronze

840
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: that I like, so.

841
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 4: Right right, the All Star, I think the All Star.

842
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: I think that the seventh.

843
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 6: The Hyper Blues, yeah.

844
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 3: Crazy as hell they just re released. Those were crazy.

845
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 4: The ones were cool, you know what I'm saying.

846
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 5: But like everybody loved the Nines, wasn't a big fan

847
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 5: people fuck with the Tens.

848
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 4: I wasn't a big fan, you know what I mean.

849
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: It was so beefy.

850
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 4: They made for a guy that's twice my size. It's

851
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 4: not gonna work.

852
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like yeah, but yeah, but yeah, man,

853
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 5: Like you know, as far as the decision that was made,

854
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 5: no question about that.

855
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: I do. I do love the Kobe Lion though.

856
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I want to say even if to be

857
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: honest with you even if it wasn't his vision, you know,

858
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it's that that's his family, you know, like.

859
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 6: Exactly, that's no question.

860
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: But we you know something, when you brought up the

861
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: Bob Ross thing, John, I think we started talking about

862
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: deep fakes and we didn't really get into this. But

863
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: I'm curious for your guys opinion on it. When you like.

864
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: We all have people we care about.

865
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: That we're you know, we're going to be supported over

866
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: the next hour, many years, or you know whatever when

867
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: you pass away, Like I hope I hope my wife,

868
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: you know, if I pass away before my time, I

869
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: hope my wife finds.

870
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: A way to to make money off you know what

871
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: I mean?

872
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: Like I I hope there's something that I could continue

873
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: to contribute and support my kids and and my family

874
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: and everything.

875
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: Right, Like do you have I don't.

876
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope she didn't do something like where

877
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: I was out here looking stupid.

878
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what that would be. But like I

879
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 3: don't know that is like.

880
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, like Highway seventy do I have to fuck you on?

881
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying.

882
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't the idea of like I think

883
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 5: that what what what the Bob Rostered that gross me

884
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 5: out it because it's mountain dewe dude, why Ross wasn't

885
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 5: drinking mountain due my problem?

886
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 4: Ross might have been.

887
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 5: Actively against you know, his relaxed ass like you know, peaceful.

888
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: He might have been actively against kids drinking.

889
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 5: Fucking soda and shit, and then you use his image

890
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 5: for that, you know what I'm saying. Like so, I mean,

891
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 5: but like it's it's different when it comes to like

892
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 5: money making a way that changes somebody's you know, the

893
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 5: perception of somebody, because some kids would be.

894
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 4: Like, you know that's you know that'lly. They don't know

895
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 4: Mountain commercial feel me exactly.

896
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 5: And then and then but like when it's Tupac, where

897
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 5: like it's an experience. I know, like Tupac they made

898
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 5: I know, Coachella made a bunch of money off that,

899
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 5: but I mean it was people experiencing it. It was a

900
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 5: joyous thing, you know what I'm saying. Like so it

901
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 5: felt a little different. But like honestly, like if my

902
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 5: people use me for whatever that way they want to,

903
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 5: if I ever do anything that's worth being used again,

904
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 5: I don't.

905
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 4: Give a fuck. I obviously won't give a fuck because

906
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 4: I'm not here anymore, you know.

907
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 5: What I'm saying if I can, and so, like, I

908
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 5: just it just felt gross to me as somebody that

909
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 5: would sit and watch you know, you know, Bob Ross

910
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 5: paint in elementary school, in middle school and just be

911
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 5: you know, that's the only time I sat down for like,

912
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 5: you know, during that time.

913
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 4: You know, I want to listen to his voice, you

914
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

915
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: All right, Well, before we before we end the show.

916
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, obviously the topic of the week, the

917
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: thing that we were all really transfixed by the last

918
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: couple of days was the trial of the man who

919
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: murdered George Floyd, whose name I know but don't want

920
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 2: to repeat or publicize anywhere in the world, was convicted

921
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: police officer on all three counts of having committed murder,

922
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 2: which is what he did, which we all saw.

923
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: What what are your guys' thoughts on that?

924
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 2: You know, did you watch the end of the try

925
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: I avoided the trial as much as I could, but

926
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: I watched the verdict being read.

927
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 3: What were your guys thoughts on that?

928
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't watch the actual verdict. My nerves are

929
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: too bad for that. I figured I'll just get it through.

930
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: Danfold through Twitter or whatever. You know, I'm not here

931
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: to police anybody's feelings about this.

932
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: Right.

933
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: If you found joining, that if great. If it made

934
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: your happy, great, it didn't make me happy. I didn't

935
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:10,479
Speaker 1: find joining.

936
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: It was.

937
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: I figured there were gonna be two outcomes here, right.

938
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: If he was found guilty, I was going to be

939
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna feel empty, but a little less empty,

940
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: I guess you could say. And if he was found unguilt,

941
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: not guilty, out of being pissed off, but not surprised, right,

942
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: So you know, I just felt a bit empty with it.

943
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 6: It doesn't bring Floyd back. You can say it's justice.

944
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: If the family refused it as justice, then you know,

945
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: great for them, But I don't know, it just feels

946
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: it just leaves me feeling empty.

947
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 6: That's just where I'm at right now.

948
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 5: I think jud Nick she was saying that she just

949
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 5: even when you're hearing the guilty verdict, she said she

950
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 5: couldn't she couldn't get forget that, the fact that.

951
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: He died, you know, like asking for his mom to

952
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: help him. You know what I'm saying.

953
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 5: And it's like I'm not, like you said, it's not

954
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 5: gonna bring Floyd back. You know what I mean, so

955
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 5: like for me, like I it gave it, It's not

956
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 5: I'm not really too hopeful.

957
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 3: I don't really be wasting my.

958
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,959
Speaker 5: Time, will hope with these motherfuckers and keeping it a stack,

959
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 5: you feel me.

960
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 3: But I'm just not completely hopeless.

961
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 5: And that's where I met at this point, you know

962
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like I saw a stat where like

963
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 5: seven this is like the seventh cop that's been convicted

964
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 5: over a certain amount of years.

965
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: That's murdered, that's murdered.

966
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 5: You know, I think there's been fifteen thousand, you know,

967
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 5: you know cop killings. You know what I'm saying, it's

968
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 5: a seventh cop that's been convicted. And we needed a

969
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 5: nine a nine minute video of it, and we were

970
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 5: still nervous prior to you know what I mean.

971
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: So like justice was served, but I'm.

972
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: Not happy justice was served.

973
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 5: I wish George Floyd was could still be here with

974
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 5: his family, you know what I'm saying.

975
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 4: And I can't change that.

976
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 5: So but and then also you know, with the young

977
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 5: lady being shot while basically while the verdict was being read,

978
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 5: I it's just it just seems like it's a it's

979
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 5: a it's you know, it's just dude, pussy ass cops

980
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 5: need to stop me at cops, bro, I mean, if

981
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 5: if you.

982
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 4: Fucking dog like a fu was she fifteen?

983
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fifteen.

984
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: If you're scared to tussle with a five foot four

985
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: fifteen year old girl, why the fuck are you a

986
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: police officer?

987
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 4: That's bro, it's your fucking job.

988
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: Okay, it's your fuck.

989
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 5: If you ain't built for it, go be your fucking

990
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 5: account or fucking whatever the fuck.

991
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Sit your ass in the desk,

992
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 4: all right.

993
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: If you ain't built for these.

994
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 5: Streets, state the fuck out of the motherfuckers.

995
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like dog, it's sickening.

996
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 5: And so when i'm i'm you, you get you get

997
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 5: some like okay maybe, And in the same moment that happens,

998
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And you know it's just

999
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 5: it's just it just there's no I just I still

1000
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 5: feel like burning ship down and started off. That's still

1001
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 5: for the exact same way, you know what I mean.

1002
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, my comment the only thing I would say, because

1003
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: I mean hopeless, is obviously the default. It's the correct

1004
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: rational reaction. I mean, if you've been paying any attention

1005
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: right for the history of the country. What I would

1006
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: say is, you see all the time on Twitter and

1007
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: everywhere people are saying like, you can't reform this, et cetera,

1008
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 2: et cetera. If we ended qualified immunity across the country,

1009
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: you could reform it pretty quickly.

1010
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 3: In my opinion, different decisions be made for so you feel.

1011
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: If all of a sudden my actions mean people consume me,

1012
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: they could take money out of my pocket, then even

1013
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: if the system can't be changed, which I don't necessarily

1014
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: believe that it can, my willingness to participate in that

1015
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: system is going to be a lot different. I'm not

1016
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: going to be the one doing this to people if

1017
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: it means they consume me. Right, And I feel the

1018
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: same way about one of the other big, hopeless, horrible

1019
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: things in our country, with the problems with mass shootings

1020
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: and the easiness with which people can get guns. You

1021
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: can't sue gun manufacturers. That's a law in America. If

1022
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: people were using Hondas to carry out mass killings, you

1023
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 2: could sue Honda and say you need to fix something,

1024
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: that there's a cutoff switch or whatever, but we can't

1025
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: sue you. The rule of law that we have in

1026
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: our country to allegedly improve and fix and change things

1027
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: does not really apply to police officers' behavior or to

1028
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: gun manufacturers, and so there's not really any recourse other

1029
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: than a federal government that passes two bills every four

1030
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: years to change anything. And so that's where I come

1031
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: back to h with it whenever I think about it.

1032
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: But I think we did all collectively want to say

1033
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: fuck Matt Forte, former NFL player who I'm not going

1034
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: to read his fucking garbage tweet, but he posted the

1035
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: opinion about a horrible tragedy of a young girl being

1036
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: killed in Chicago that has no fucking thing in the

1037
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: world to do with the issue of police officers shooting people,

1038
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: and said the usual nonsense of like, if if this

1039
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: is how we're treating each other, how can we expect

1040
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: other people to value our lives? Blah blah blah, Like

1041
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 2: fuck that opinion so much, bro, when people act.

1042
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 5: Like there aren't a lot of people in orgs actively

1043
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 5: working on that. And also that's not like a lot

1044
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 5: of these things happen just doesn't have anything.

1045
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 4: To do with it, nothing, nothing, nothing like this.

1046
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: Person's dying of brain cancer. So you can't be mad

1047
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: at this this person being home, you know what I mean.

1048
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 5: Like, and when they find that person, they will be convicted,

1049
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like you know what I'm saying,

1050
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 5: Like no, we like, no doubt that motherfucker's going to jail.

1051
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 3: That's the issue we're having. It's a very different issue.

1052
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 4: But it's like dog quit taking.

1053
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 5: Away from one struggle, Like, well, dude, nope, And that's

1054
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 5: a sickening thing.

1055
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 3: We're all hurt.

1056
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 4: And I can understand seeing that and being hurt and.

1057
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 5: Saying we have to change it. I get that feeling

1058
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 5: because I feel the same way when I see shit

1059
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 5: like that, right, you know what I mean. But to

1060
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 5: take away from one thing, you know what I'm saying,

1061
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 5: to where where you know, like especially with all the

1062
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 5: information we have about about you know, what's going on

1063
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 5: with with cops and the system with black people and

1064
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 5: shit like that, it's just like, oh, they're they're both

1065
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 5: really fucked up, you know what I'm saying, And they

1066
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 5: both have to be worked on.

1067
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 4: And it's it's and there's people that are doing that,

1068
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like and like Doug, like

1069
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 4: white people kill white people too, bro.

1070
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 5: Like you know, what I'm saying, like you kill people,

1071
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying like this, There's a bunch

1072
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 5: of factors that go into this that it makes it

1073
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 5: just extremely stupid statement.

1074
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's of course, you know, you can still be

1075
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: pissed and angry about you know, the thing with the

1076
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: seven year old kid it was murdered in Chicago.

1077
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 6: You can be equally pissed off at cops murdering.

1078
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: Yes, right, Like, I don't understand why you have to

1079
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: assert that black people have to earn a right to live, right,

1080
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: we have to earn the right to not be murdered.

1081
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 6: It's just a shitty racist talking point.

1082
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: And when it gets parroted by black people, they're doing

1083
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: the work of white supremacists by that, because no one

1084
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: tells white people, oh, y'all have to stop all the

1085
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: mass murders, all the mass shootings, you know, if you

1086
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: truly wanted to be respectless, no one tells them that.

1087
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: But black people we always have to We're always told

1088
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: that we have to earn the right to live, you know,

1089
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: And it's a cop out because it's they'll always move

1090
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: the goalpost on that shit, so fuck that.

1091
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: It it the way that I the way we all

1092
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: see the world is through own experiences and the people

1093
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: that we've known and been around. Right, this particular viewpoint

1094
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 2: has always driven me crazy because my experience with gun

1095
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: violence is inner city gun violence. In Long Beach, We've

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Speaker 2: had a horrible fucking year for it. I grew up

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Speaker 2: in the nineties. It was constant, and when I see

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Speaker 2: people talking about abolish the police on Twitter, my experience

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Speaker 2: is colored through the experiences that I've had in my city,

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Speaker 2: which is the people I know who would be most

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Speaker 2: against abolishing the police are elderly black people and Cambodian

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Speaker 2: people who are terrified, who've been terrified it long stretches

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Speaker 2: of time about the amount of gun violence and gang

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Speaker 2: violence happening in their city. Those people are also afraid

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Speaker 2: of the police, and both of those fears are completely justified.

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Speaker 2: So they want there to be someone that they can

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Speaker 2: call that will help, but they don't want to be

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Speaker 2: worried that those people are going to kill them or

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Speaker 2: their kids. And I don't understand how. I certainly understand

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Speaker 2: saying I feel like there's a problem in my community,

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Speaker 2: and I feel this way in Long Beach, even not

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Speaker 2: being black or having been.

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Speaker 3: In a gang.

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Speaker 2: I understand the problem feeling there's a problem in my

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Speaker 2: community that needs to be solved, and I want to

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Speaker 2: solve it. But to say, we can't solve this other,

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Speaker 2: completely separate and enormous problem until we solve this problem,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: You're adding tragedy on top of tragedy. It just doesn't.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't work like that, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm I'm with Tyler.

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Speaker 2: Like no one needs to do anything to earn the

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Speaker 2: right to not get killed by government officials who are

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Speaker 2: employed for our protection as.

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Speaker 3: A community, like exactly that ship.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's I wish we were just talking about

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Speaker 2: Vivian the whole fucking episode.

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Speaker 4: Dam we gotta talk about this these conversations, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Vivion. Uh, all right, that's our episode.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to having uh some basketball maybe with some

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Speaker 2: healthy players who talk about for next episode.

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Speaker 3: We will be back on Monday. Like us, subscribe to us. Well,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to like it, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Digitally like us, subscribe to us, give us five stars

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Speaker 2: all that other ship.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you guys on w