1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Does anything make sense in the Pack twelve. I don't 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: think there's any conference that's harder to predict who's going 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: to win on a weekend and week out basis. Also, 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: the conference is getting some good light and some good 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: shine on HBO with Arizona State and then upcoming Washington State. 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: We're gonna break down all the games and all the 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: happenings in the conference. I'm George Rice Stir with Ralph Amston, 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: and this is the Pack twelve of Pops. Ralph, I'm 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: so happy I'm back on top, man, I can pick 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: winners again. I am going to catch you in the standards. 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: You were thirteen and one over the last three weeks 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: and I was six and eight, and now I am 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: on your eels. Ralph, how do you feel about that? Buddy, boy? 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know anything about football anymore. 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: It's some of the things that happened to this conference. 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you could if you if you toss Oregon 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: from the equation, and they almost lost today. But if 18 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: you toss Oregon from the equation, everybody has beat everybody. 19 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: I mean you could go round and round and round. 20 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: Stanford beat Washington, but they lost to U c l 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: A and Oregon State beat U c l A. But 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's just you can go down the line 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: with with everybody and and none of it makes any sense. 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: Washington State and Colorado both played a su close and 25 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: Washington State blows out Colorado. You know, you just it's 26 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: it's really hard to tell what's up and what's down. Um, 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: outside of maybe a couple of schools, I feel like 28 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: I have a pretty good anely and what's going on 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: with USC and with Arizona, um, But other than that, 30 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean, any team can give you the Calorigan State 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: game alone. UM just doesn't make very much sense to me. 32 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: So I can't wait to get into these games so 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: that maybe we can talk some sense into ourselves and 34 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: figure out what's going on here. It's the amount of 35 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: parody and the conference is insane to me. I mean, 36 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: just from a weekend in week out basis, teams don't 37 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: perform the same. And then also it's so much of 38 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: styles make fights. It's like boxing, you know, like a 39 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: big puncher might not necessarily plut be do well against 40 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: a CounterPunch or a defense guy or a speed guy. 41 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: You just never know, and that's what makes the conference 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: so interesting, and but it hurts the national perception when 43 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: you don't have dominant teams. I mean, they they've got 44 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: one in Oregon right now, but there needs to be 45 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: a a team in the South that that really is 46 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: garnering that national attention. And Utah, even though that there's 47 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: still only one loss right now, they still aren't getting 48 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: that national buzz because they are undefeated at this point. 49 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: But the conference is getting some good pub though. We 50 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: we saw Arizona State on HBO on the Seven Things. 51 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: If if you haven't watched it, look on HBO. They 52 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: stream everything or whatever, and next week on Wednesday night 53 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: at seven pm, Washington State will be on there. I 54 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: thought that this was a great recruiting tool for Arizona State. 55 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: I fell in love with HERM Edwards, and everybody that 56 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: thought that his hiring was going to be a disaster 57 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: looks like an idiot right now. Yeah, I'm pretty close 58 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: to this program and I learned things that I, you know, 59 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: I had absolutely no idea about. I think you have 60 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: enough people telling you that her Edwards is more of 61 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: like a CEO type, kind of like Joe Joe Paternos. 62 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: Last you know, decade and a half at Penn State 63 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: that everybody else was kind of running things and he 64 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: was just the the CEO. Uh. And it became pretty 65 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: obvious pretty quickly that he's actually got his hands in 66 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: everything that's going on. And he might not be the 67 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: one calling the offensive or the defensive plays, but he 68 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: plays a really large role in keeping the team focused, 69 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: keeping the team motivated, keeping the coaches on the same page. 70 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean, this, this isn't the just overseer that he 71 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: was sort of made out to be um. And so 72 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: that was one of the things that I learned. And 73 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: you said that you you know, you said that you 74 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: fell in love with her ed words. Uh as a 75 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: coach from watching this, I mean, how did your perceptions 76 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: change just from what you saw? George? I just loved well. 77 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: I had known her from when I was playing in 78 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: the league. But his energy is always known and his passion, 79 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: like you don't find too many coaches that really love 80 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: ball this much and really take it seriously in terms 81 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: of he just wants to pass down his knowledge and 82 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: pass down the love of the game like, and his 83 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: passion is infectious. And he said something on there that 84 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: resonated with me so much. 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He said something on there that 95 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: was just just resonated with me where he said, you 96 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: you have to bet on yourself and I've always been 97 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: and he's always been willing to bet on himself, and 98 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: that just like resonated with me. I was like, yeah, 99 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: because if you put in the time, effort, dedication and 100 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: work and you have some talent to go along with it, 101 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: just the stick tuitiveness alone, the willingness to show up 102 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: be the man in the arena is just big. And honestly, 103 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: my kid who is going to who's an eighth grader 104 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: right now. As an athlete, I always think about the 105 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: kind of coaches that I want him to play for. 106 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: And there are a few guys that stick out, and 107 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: her Members is one of those guys that sticks out 108 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: that I believe that if I sent my son to 109 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: go play for him, that he would come out a 110 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: better man and a better football player. I mean that 111 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: that's big, right, because what a lot of people don't 112 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: understand is that, you know, they think that kids know 113 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: who these college coaches are. And one of the big 114 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: like uproars about hiring her Edwards was, you know, he's 115 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: not gonna have any name recognition from kids after taking 116 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: nine years off. The truth is, most kids don't know 117 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: who a single college coach is until that college coach 118 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: is standing right in front of them. Yeah, aside from 119 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: Nick Saban and Dabo Sweeney, like, that's pretty much exactly. 120 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: And and so when your first impression of a you know, 121 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: as a kid, of her Edwards is going to be 122 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: the same first impression that we all had when we 123 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 1: were all introduced to her medwords. You know, he's never changed. 124 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: He's always been the same exact guy, just maybe a 125 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: little bit older, a little wiser, a little bit calmer 126 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: now that he doesn't have to deal with the New 127 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: York media. Um. But I mean, kids are going to 128 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: be experiencing this for the first time, and I think 129 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: it's pretty easy for them to buy what's being sold. 130 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: And then if you have a kid that's in either 131 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: a nuclear family or at least somebody who has a 132 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: guardian who's older, and you're in the hallways at Arizona 133 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: State and you run into Her Edwards and Marvin Lewis 134 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: and Kevin Muay and Antonio Piers and all these guys 135 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: with NFL and television experience, um, and then I mean 136 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: just I mean, obviously you're gonna be able to speak 137 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: to this a little bit better than me, George, But 138 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: just like as an African American being in the halls 139 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: with with Her Edwards and and Marvin Lewis, and then 140 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: just sort of being pioneers as head coaches in the 141 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: NFL in a league that has sort of always been 142 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: kind of like a good old boys club, whether intentionally 143 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: or unintentionally, you know, just to just to see yourself represented. 144 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: It's just a different situation and Arizona State right now, 145 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: and I think that I think that I don't think 146 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: people oh a s u an apology like nobody should 147 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: ever have to apologize for for going with their gut 148 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: and saying that this didn't think that this was gonna work. 149 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: But to think that Herm Edwards or Marvin Lewis or 150 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: any of these guys, to think that they were cartoons, 151 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: to think that they were just going to forget football, 152 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: to think that they wouldn't know how to deal with kids. 153 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: So you're making some leaps. I mean, you would have 154 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: to make some leaps there, and I think that some 155 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: of those might have been unfair. Oh first for sure, 156 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: for sure. And now he is proving everybody right. I mean, 157 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: and well, no, I'm sorry, he's proving everybody wrong, improving 158 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: him himself right. And the cool part is, so you 159 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: brought up being an African American, and you know, and 160 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: I always look at when when I was talking about 161 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: who I would want my son to play for and 162 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. I'm looking for somebody, not necessarily 163 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: be a father figure, because he's got a father, but 164 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: just somebody to be a good role model and teach 165 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: him up and to be and to just feel at 166 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: home and comfortable. So it's not just him playing for 167 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: a black coach or a white culture. What what whatever 168 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: it is, it's got to have that feeling. And her 169 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: him just feels like that uncle or that granddad. He 170 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: he reminds me of my dad, the way that he 171 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: treats my son and my nephew and everybody else around him. 172 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: There's an element of trust that I have for for 173 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: him to do the right thing by them, even if 174 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: it's even if it's sometimes it's disciplined or whatever whatever else. 175 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: And I thought a cool part was where he talked 176 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: about that he doesn't be rate his coaches because I 177 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: played for different coaches who have undressed their coaches, undressed players. 178 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: I mean, like I have had coaches tell me, son, 179 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: you could screw up a free lunch, you could funk 180 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: up a wet dream. I mean all kind of craziness, dude, 181 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: Like I have had coaches say that like that, like 182 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: your mom should have aborted you. I've heard him say 183 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: all sorts of things two kids and to their coaches. 184 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just outrageous. And Herm doesn't do that. 185 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: And I think that when and when he was asked 186 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: in the press conference about mac Mike Leach about the 187 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: way his style after the his kids were fat, dumb, 188 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: the lazy, reading the press clippings, all of that stuff. 189 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: I think that it's interesting timing that Washington State got 190 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: off of social media the same week that the HBO 191 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: cameras were following them. Do you not that do you 192 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: not find that curious? I mean, I think maybe that 193 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: that could probably have something to do with it. Uh yeah, 194 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean that you want to talk about they have 195 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: enough distractions. Now they're gonna have cameras falling them all 196 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: over the place. I am really really interested to see because, uh, 197 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, I watched the SU. Wasn't, like I said, 198 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm close enough to the program. Well, I had some 199 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: I had some maybe mixed up or preconceived notions that 200 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: were proven to be incorrect, or I definitely got some 201 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: additional knowledge about a s U, about maybe the team 202 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: dynamic and a couple of the players. It was really 203 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: really interesting to see the dynamic, just to go back 204 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: to a s U for a second, between Jade and Daniels, 205 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: who is just calm is calm can be all the time, 206 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: and the fact that there's another freshman quarterback who doesn't 207 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: even start, who is a team captain in Ethan, and 208 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: to see the way that those two support each other 209 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that was just really cool. But I'm looking 210 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: forward to the whole Washington State thing because i know 211 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: that I've I bought into different narratives about Mike Leach 212 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: and about that team, uh and about that city, and 213 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: I'm sure that some of those are going to be 214 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: exposed and that you know, I'm gonna come away with 215 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: a better understanding of Washington State. I don't think that 216 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: this seven program, and I've only watched parts of the 217 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: of the other two of the Penn State in the Florida, 218 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that these are really designed to be 219 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: like hard knocks where I don't think they're going to 220 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: go out and intentionally like exposed any kids would. No, no, no, no, 221 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: that's a bad look because because the number one ruling 222 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: broadcasting when I've called college games pro any of that 223 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: is just it is. And the pros you can be 224 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: critical of the person a little bit more, but in 225 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: college you have to respect them as adolescents and attack 226 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: the the the action rather than the player. But in 227 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: the pros it's completely different, even when kids get in 228 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: trouble and all of that. But I do find it 229 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: so Arizona State has really been in the what like 230 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: around thirty, around thirty in their recruiting since what like 231 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: or so like they've like they have been. Yeah, they've 232 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: been a bad year for them, will be a bad 233 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: year for them, will be in the forties. A good 234 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: year for them will be in the mid twenties. So 235 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: do you think that so right now they're sitting nationally 236 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: ranked at thirty? Do you think that this hard knocks 237 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: will have an impact on them? Um and better help 238 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: these kids have HBO or know how to get like 239 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: pirate and streams or whatever. I mean that that'd be 240 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: a cool thing for them to work out with HBO, 241 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: that they could like send kids maybe like a private 242 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: link to ur they could watch it. Because I think 243 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: that it will be I think it will be helpful 244 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: insofar as people who haven't visited yet can maybe get 245 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: to know the program a little bit better. Because if 246 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: you and I had preconceived notions and mixed up feelings 247 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: and thoughts about some of these coaches, then you know 248 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: that some of these handlers and you know what's crazy though, 249 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: is a lot of these handlers they know football more 250 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: than anybody, and they they're into the football guys. Like 251 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: what I noticed is a lot of those guys out 252 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: there who were seven on seven guys or um or 253 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: high school coaches, like they loved the idea of Herm 254 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: Edwards because they love the idea that like, you never 255 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: stopped being a coach. But it's there's enough parents out there, 256 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: and there's enough people that probably need to see that 257 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: that Herm Edwards is more than just a TV guy. 258 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: And I think that there's probably some people out there 259 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: that need to see that Mike Leach isn't just a 260 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: giant goofball and and to get to know his staff 261 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: a little bit better. So I think that the impact 262 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: that this will have on recruiting has maybe been oversold 263 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: in that people don't just don't understand that these kids 264 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: don't all have HBO in the first place. But at 265 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: the same time, if they did have a way to 266 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: watch it, I don't see how it could hurt. I mean, 267 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: the most scandalous, most scandalous thing that happened on the 268 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: whole h A s U one was Frank Darby putting 269 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: three pounds of sugar into his iced tea. You know, 270 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: the yeah, and nothing scandal has happened on the Florida 271 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: except for the the backup quarterback was a dummy and 272 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: left his keys and his scooter and got a scooter stolen. 273 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's about it. Now, Ralph, let's get into 274 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: our our Pack twelve power rankings. I've every single week 275 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: I find this more and more difficult to do. This 276 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: is like the Pack twelve Will of Death. Everybody has 277 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: beat everybody except Oregon, and I mean, and it's so 278 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: difficult to put and like in the beginning of the season, 279 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: I was yelling at you about putting Washington over Cow 280 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: after Cow had just beat them. But now we have 281 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: so much information, so many teams have beat so many 282 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: teams that it is difficult to make a ranking. So, Ralph, 283 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: what is your six to six to seven? Thank you said, 284 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: there's no more purity tests anymore. Right, you can't get 285 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: mad at me. You can't get mad at me because 286 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: everyone and has beat everyone. Well, yeah, there there's only 287 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: two spots I could get mad at you. Fo is 288 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: number one and if you don't have two particular teams 289 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: at number one and number two, that's the only way 290 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: I could yell at you. Right, Well, yeah, that though, 291 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: I think that's that's super obvious. Right, So, um, I'm 292 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: gonna do something a little bit wild. And I know 293 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: that they've got the victory in Tempe, but I'm gonna 294 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: go ahead and drop Colorado all the way down to 295 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: number twelve because I don't know if they're gonna win again, 296 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: and I also don't think that Arizona is gonna win again. 297 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: And so even though they have a winning record right now, 298 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put them at eleven. Um. Oregon State, I 299 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: feel like at least has some upside as does U 300 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: c l A. For the some reason. Um, And so 301 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and stick U c l A At 302 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: ten and Oregon State at nine. Stanford is a is 303 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: a bad eight, right they got? I mean they gotta be. 304 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: They gotta be at eight and then and then I 305 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: don't know why. I feel like this is super high. 306 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: But at least they have a functioning offense, which wouldn't 307 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: keep them in any game. I've got Washington State at 308 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: number seven. Dude, you don't feel good about any of those. 309 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: I can hear it in your voice. You like you, 310 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: You feel like you were like you were asked to 311 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: pick which one are your kids? Did you like the best? 312 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: When they win? When they all I feel like if 313 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: I if I walked through that, and I set all 314 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: those teams and I sounded competent, it would be a 315 00:18:51,280 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: dead giveaway that I'm a sociopath. All right, my well 316 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: to seven I have we ironically agree on the twelfth 317 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: worst team in the back twelve right now. It is Colorado. 318 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: This team looks like they are headed nowhere fast, just 319 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: absolutely nowhere fast. And I like to rank teams based 320 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: upon what we have, the information that we have right now. 321 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: And Stanford I got them at number eleven because I 322 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: don't know what's happening with their quarterback situation. We thought 323 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: kJ Costello was coming back, he's clearly who knows. Davis 324 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: Mills is still out and he's supposed to be back. 325 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: Who knows. And so based upon the fact that Jack 326 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: West is the quarterback, Stanford is number eleven, they may 327 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: should be number twelve. Stanford in Colorado might be a 328 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: good game right or a good bad game right now, 329 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: because neither team is functional. I would actually like to 330 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: see that they they played for the worst team in 331 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: the back twelve with Jack West that quarterback. I got 332 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: U c. L A At number ten because they are 333 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: trending in the right direction, I think, and they have 334 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: exceeded Ralph's expectations. They've gotten out of the seller. I 335 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: got Arizona at number nine because actually I feel like 336 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: they should be at number ten because they have cere identity. 337 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: But they have what they did beat U c l 338 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: A recently, so I can't put them behind them. I 339 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: guess not number eight. I got Cow. Cow's going nowhere 340 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: fast until Garberge comes back. There were four and old. 341 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: Now they may not even be making a bowl game. 342 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: This is sad to see. So Cal is my number 343 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: eight team. And surprisingly, I never not for a million years, 344 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: if you had told me at the beginning of the 345 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: season that at some point in time in the year 346 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: that I would have Oregon State ranked as the seventh 347 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: best team in the Pac twelve, Ralph, I would have 348 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: I cannot believe that I'm saying this with my own lips. 349 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: That is pretty wild. I mean, yeah, I don't know 350 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: if I agree with that high, but I mean, what 351 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: if they rattle off a couple more wins, things are 352 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: gonna get real exciting. And core wallis because there they 353 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: could qualify for a bowl. That'd be huge for them. 354 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: I am gonna go. So my number six team, uh 355 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: probably average points per game they'll score for the rest 356 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: of the season. I have cal Um coming in at 357 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: number five, which I guess would be like the average 358 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: age of the players on offense Arizona State Um number 359 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: four in my Pack twelve power rankings. Ah, this is 360 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: a tough one. I almost want to work my way backwards. 361 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: But now and that's gonna be USC. And then obviously 362 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: three is is watched, Shington too is Utah, and the 363 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: number one team is Oregon. Ralph, it is time to 364 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: get into the games. We had a full slate of 365 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: games this week. Every Pack twelve team was in action 366 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: starting on Thursday night. Everybody knows how much I hate 367 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: Thursday night games. I think you do too, Ralph. But 368 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: I called this, I told you, and it is time 369 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: for you to admit that you were wrong. You said 370 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: U c l A was only gonna win one game. 371 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: I predicted them to win the practice Pack twelve South 372 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: and now they are in the thickest things, Ralph, and 373 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: they beat up Stanford thirty four to sixteen. What the 374 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: number one I don't know because at the one point 375 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: as of Friday morning, I was thirteen and two in 376 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: in my previous fifteen picks and the to the head 377 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: and correct where Stanford found a way to beat Washington, 378 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: and then Stanford found a way to turn around and 379 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: lose to U c l A and blowout fashion. So 380 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: I don't really you know, I typically don't give a 381 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: lot of energy to watching the Thursday or Friday night 382 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: games live. I watched this. Yeah, see, that's that's how 383 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: bad it is. I watched this one from start to furnish, 384 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: my jaw on the floor, just trying to figure out 385 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: what the hell was going on. I mean, there was 386 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: at one point when I tweeted, like, what's the way 387 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: to beat U c l A, Like pounded down their 388 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: throats and set up the play action? Like what is 389 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: Stanford really good at pounding it down your throat to 390 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: set up the play action? What should no? Well, well, actually, 391 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: Stanford is the eleventh ranked came into this game eleventh 392 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: ranked in the pack twelve in terms of rushing the football, 393 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: like the The only reason why that they were even 394 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: at a hundred and twenty four yards a game coming 395 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: into the U c l A game was because they 396 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: watching which was five days before, so that's fresh in 397 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 1: my mind. That was days before, and so and so 398 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: I thought to myself, and I've seen I've seen everything 399 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: that U c l A's defense is is capable of 400 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: giving up, and so I figure, you know, and then 401 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: what do you do with the third string quarterback? You 402 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: should go out there and you should try to run 403 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: the football. They came out. I think they got the 404 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: ball first and they straight up ran a finesse offense. 405 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: I think they ran it with the quarterback, tried to 406 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: throw one second and six and then through again. I 407 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: think they got the first down then. But I was like, oh, 408 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: we're being soft today, are we? And it just well, 409 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: you still well. U c l A did a good 410 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: job of stopping the run. Stamford ran the ball thirty 411 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: times for fifty five yards for one point eight yards 412 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: of run. I mean they couldn't run. And Jack West, 413 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: who is Stamford's third string quarterback, because kid kJ Costello's 414 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: out and the kid um Davis Mills is out as well, 415 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: he's not a good quarterback. He's either just not a 416 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: good quarterback or he's just so far from being ready 417 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: to be out there as a starter. I mean, he 418 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: was awful. His his his eyes were wide, he didn't know 419 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: where to look, he didn't know where to throw. He 420 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: couldn't throw, I mean, and it was one of those 421 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: situations to where um like, if you can't run the ball, yeah, 422 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: you can't throw the ball because if teams, if teams 423 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: don't have to load up the box to stop your run, 424 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: then guess what made me laugh about the broadcast was 425 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: they kept talking about how Jack West was gonna be 426 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: like David Shaw thought that Jack West was going to 427 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: be president in the United States someday. And then by 428 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: the end of the game, I can't remember who was 429 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: on the call, but I was dying. They were like, well, 430 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna get many votes in the 431 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: Bay Area. Oh dude. So so I found out an 432 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: interesting bit of news. So Stanford has not been able 433 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: to run the football for the last two seasons. They 434 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: lost their offensive line coach. I think he went to 435 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: go be the coach at Rice, which is I've only 436 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: God knows why you would take that job. That job 437 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: is you cannot win there. You cannot win it Rice. 438 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: But but yeah, I guess it's a head coaching job. 439 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: As the head coaching job, I guess. But some sometimes 440 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: there's power and saying no. So Stanford hasn't been able 441 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: to get the recruits or been able to run the 442 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: ball since he left. But you see l A on 443 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: the other hand, Duran Thompson Robinson has clearly turned a 444 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: corner and they ran the ball forty three times for 445 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty three yards and two touchdowns. And 446 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: the kid Kyle Phillips tink catches a hundred yards and 447 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Ralph, I mean, I don't even know what 448 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: to like. I believe that this is the U c 449 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: l A team that you're going to see more of Robinson, 450 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: and it just like the whole vibe I'm getting from 451 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: him is it's I'm trying not say too many cuss 452 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: words on the podcast today, but it's f this s 453 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: a clock for him, like he he is, He's taking 454 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: more responsibility onto his shoulders. He's getting out and finding 455 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: the first down on his own more and more. He 456 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: did when he was able to do it against Washington 457 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: State that he you know, he came back and he 458 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: tried to be a pocket passer again. Then he got 459 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: dinged up against Arizona a little bit. But against Stanford 460 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: he used his athleticism to his advantage. And when he 461 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: does that it makes him look like a complete player 462 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: that makes everybody else around him better. And guess what, 463 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 1: you know the kind of quarterback that I like. So 464 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: it makes me fall in love with him a little 465 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: bit because we're not seeing it from Khalil Tate this year. 466 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, Dorian Thompson Robinson is maybe 467 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: maybe he's gonna take that take that place for me, 468 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: now that that that Tate's probably benched. So I mean, 469 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: but why I will say that when he's running the ball, 470 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: the whole field just opens up for him and he's 471 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: got so many more options. Yeah, and I learned something 472 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: about him that I did not know that kind of 473 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: changed my opinion about him a bit in his maturation. 474 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: So we we all know he only started one year 475 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: at Bishop Gorman. While he was in uh yeah, man, 476 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: he was playing behind Tate Martel, who's now ironically a 477 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver. But during Thompson Robinson was playing wide receiver 478 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: for Bishop Gorman's while he was waiting on his turn 479 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: to play quarterback. So he hasn't had very many reps. 480 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: So he is just now getting able to like see 481 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the coverages, you know, playball and all 482 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,239 Speaker 1: of that so I I look at his trajectory for 483 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: next year and the season after his junior and senior year, 484 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: that this is a kid who can be dangerous, That 485 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: this is the kid who can who you see l 486 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: A has their quarterback for right now, for the next 487 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: two years, and by his junior senior year, this is 488 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: gonna be a dude who's gonna have them competing for 489 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve South, like legitimately not just two and 490 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: five two and two in the conference Pack twelve South. 491 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: Can I tell you what's so bad about? First of all, 492 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: predicting one win was a massive highwire act, and I 493 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: just I love that you got you were scared for 494 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: two months. I love that, right, But the terrible thing 495 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: about being wrong about a team only having one win 496 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: is that two wins is double Like you can't be 497 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: more wrong than than getting like double the amount wrong, right, 498 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: so like and anything beyond this is just gravy. But 499 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: but even two wins is as wrong as you can 500 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: possibly be. And I do see some improvement, and I 501 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: see some vulnerabilities, and like you said, there's a lot 502 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: of parody in the conference, and it's kind of at 503 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: the point where you see that there's probably a couple 504 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: of other teams that they're going to have a really 505 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: good chance against. But like, yes, I'm I'm possibly seeing 506 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: five wins for this team and possibly big big because 507 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: so they so they play a s U, which I 508 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: think is going to be a dog fight. They play 509 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: a s U next week. We'll preview that on Thursday, 510 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: but I think that's gonna be a dog fight. Colorado 511 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: is clearly going in the wrong direction. I think that 512 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: that's a possible win for them. They're not gonna beat Utah. 513 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: They can beat usc because they did it last year. 514 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: And Cow. They if Oregon State can beat Cow, guess 515 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: what you c l A can beat Cow. So Ralph, 516 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: that is a potential four wins in their last five 517 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: in their potential five games. And if this team finishes 518 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: uh six and six, that will put them what four 519 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: and uh four and three in the No. Five and 520 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: three in the conference. No. Five and four in the conference. 521 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: I think yeah, No. No. Six and three in the conference. Jesus, Jesus, 522 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: my math is bad. That'll put them six and three 523 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: in the conference. And Ralph, you're gonna be looking at 524 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: a team that's gonna be going to a ball game 525 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: and not only would they be going to a ball game, 526 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: but they win Pack twelve South and you will do. 527 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: They don't look good though, they don't look good. They 528 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: they have Dimitric Felton who looks okay. That their their 529 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: kicker plays well when I'm not on the sideline to 530 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: bother him. Uh. Their their quarterback is as long as 531 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: he is healthy, is somewhat of a threat. They've got 532 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: a good running back. That defense is still bad. Stanford 533 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: lost this game as much as U c l A 534 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: want it because they couldn't sustain a single drive. I mean, 535 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: Stanford look so bad. And you brought up the fact 536 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: that like Jack West did not at all look like 537 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: a serviceable quarterback. Like I just I cannot believe how 538 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: weird David Shaw is about recruiting quarterbacks in the first place, 539 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: and to be in a situation where you're having to 540 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: play your third string guy and talking him up the 541 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: way they were talking him up. I mean, I watched 542 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: this game with my wife and she's not she's she's 543 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: not much for watching, uh a whole lot of college football, 544 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, outside of her alma mater anyway, But for 545 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: her to spend the Thursday night watching Stanford and watching 546 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: them talk up a quarterback who just looked awful, you know, 547 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: it was it was a bit much. I mean, she 548 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: commented relentlessly on how the broadcast was making him out 549 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: to be, you know, even even a serviceable guy, and 550 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: and and he was not. And so I mean, I 551 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,719 Speaker 1: feel like Stanford kind of gave this away a little bit. Again, 552 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: six days before that, they were beating up on Chicken. 553 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: So I don't really even know what to to say 554 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: about this. I don't believe that U c. L A 555 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: Is a threat to win the PacTel South could have happened. 556 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: Maybe stranger things have happened, but like you're you're telling 557 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: Ah they I mean, are they even gonna make it 558 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: out alive against Utah? I don't know, Okay, all right, bro, 559 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm just saying stranger things have happened. Now. The next 560 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: game that was an early kickoff, and Oregon State showed 561 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: up and Cal did not U That game started kickoff 562 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: at eleven thirty am, so it was all it was 563 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: a super early kickoff, and I was like, jeez, this 564 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. So I can't even imagine how nine 565 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: am kickoffs are gonna feel. Um Oregon State went to 566 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: Cal one twenty one to seventeen. Jake Lutton Lieutan Lutton 567 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: finished with a hundred seventy four yards two touched Hounds, 568 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: didn't throw any picks. Um, this, this whole thing, is, 569 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 1: this whole conference is crazy to me. Nobody throws an 570 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: interceptions anymore. Um. Artavius Pierce twenty one carries eighty yards 571 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: and your boy Isaiah Hodgens only had five for thirty 572 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: six and a touchdown. But he ran a slanting go 573 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: that he was wide open on and would have scored 574 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: another touchdown, but Cal got too much pressure on him. 575 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean he was wide open. It was the same 576 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: double move that he burned. I think Jack Jones on Um, 577 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: uh yeah on wait, no, no, no, Jack Jack Jones 578 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: that the Arizona State. Um, he just beat somebody on 579 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: a double move like a week or two ago too, 580 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: And it was the exact same move, exact same slanting 581 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: slanting go. And then you have cow on the other side, uh, 582 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: the vomb monster. He got knocked out of the game, 583 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: but before that he was twelve or twenty seven and 584 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: Cal basically like, it's sad because they have no margin 585 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: for error on defense, Like if a team gets fifteen points, 586 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: they can't win. I mean they're averaging under. Uh. They 587 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: came into the game and twenty point the game, and 588 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: now they're averaging under twenty point the game. You can't win. 589 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: Like this. Cow's defense is good, but they have no 590 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: margin for error and are constantly in bad field position, 591 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: bad situations. Yeah, I mean this was a strange game 592 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: because you and I said that, you know, Cal's defensive 593 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: backfield is so good that there's no way that Isaiah 594 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: Hodgens will do better than he did last week. And 595 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: then they come out and they start feeding him the 596 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: ball right away. He did most of that damage early on. Um, 597 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: he you know, he gets his he gets his touchdown, 598 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: and it looked like Isaiah Hodgens was gonna car Kell 599 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: up all day long. And then all of a sudden 600 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: things sort of slowed down in the momentum shifts back 601 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: toward Cal. They take the lead, and then they stop 602 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: and and then the Monster gets knocked out of the game. Um, 603 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: they have absolutely no plan with Spencer Brash other than 604 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: to like try to go hail Mary, hil Mary, Hail Mary. 605 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: And you know he's not going to know what to 606 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: do in that situation. He's gonna have to get used 607 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: to the game speed. In a situation where he has 608 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: to buy eight seconds back there, there's no way and so, um, 609 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: what a strange game. I was able to watch this 610 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: one in its entirety. Um, I felt like they a 611 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: pretty good game was called for Oregon State. On the 612 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: offensive side of the football, UM, Jake Luton is very efficient. 613 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: He kept the ball out of Harm's way. He took 614 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: a couple of brutal sacks. He picked up a very 615 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: important first down with you know, using all of his 616 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: height uh to to lean forward there at the end 617 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: of the game that I thought would seal it. But 618 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: Cal's still got another chance. This is the second or 619 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: third time that Cal's had the ball uh at the 620 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: end of the game down just a few points and 621 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 1: couldn't even move it at all. The same thing happened 622 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: against a su um Evan Weaver looked good again. Cal's 623 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 1: defense was able to kind of get things right by 624 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: the second half. They looked good again. When this is 625 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,959 Speaker 1: another quarterback, Dvin Monster, when he's running it, everything sort 626 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: of opens up for him. I think that he needs 627 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: to be a little bit more like Chase Garber's and 628 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: just run as often as possible. He can't be like 629 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: Chase Garbers because he's he doesn't have the armtalent. He 630 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: can't read the defense. It's Chase Garber's when he went out, 631 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 1: he was standing in the pocket throwing the football, throwing. 632 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: But they okay, he had one good game. Ever, so 633 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: let's let's get that out of the way. But he 634 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: also l cow was four and one when I'm sorry, no, 635 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: no, no no, sorry, they were they were four and oh 636 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: when when Chase Garber's got got drunk off, we're absolutely 637 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: drunk off. His one good game he even was good 638 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: in the first half of the a s U. Garbers 639 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: had like nine games where he didn't even throw for 640 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: a hundred yards. That was last year, Ralph. He is 641 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: a different quarterback. And and we saw it old miss 642 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: that he had one day, one good game they had 643 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: and he would okay, would you not say he was 644 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 1: playing well? In the Arizona State game before had seven 645 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: points in one half. That's terrible. Would you not say 646 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: he was play would you not say he was He 647 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: looked better than he's looked at a lot of other times. 648 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: But it wasn't like the old miss kekay, So so Cow, 649 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: but at what Arizona States even don't know. We just 650 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: got we just got done. We got just got done 651 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: with you talking about how Anthony Gordon carved up arizon 652 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: a state defense. That's a quarterback. That's what a quarterback 653 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: looks like, Chase Garber. Eric Gordon is not a good quarterback. 654 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: He's playing in Mike Leach's system. Dude, he's he's able 655 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: to throw a pass he had yeah, and yeah and 656 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: and Devid Monster can't like, this is a team. This 657 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: is a team. Cow who was four and old headed 658 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: to a bowl game potentially finishing second in the in 659 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: the Pac twelve North. Would you would you agree that 660 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: they had the potential to finish second in the Pact 661 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: if everybody was healthy, like you said, like you said, 662 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: I'm saying, if Garberg are healthy, if Garber and that's 663 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: what that's what I'm saying, So that they're they're short 664 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of offensive linemen now too, and like you said, 665 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: it giving the season, if everything goes right, they could 666 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: have won the North out right. And I believe you 667 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: on that after watching them, I do. But but yeah, 668 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: but losing losing their quarterback Ralph, they are now a 669 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: team that may not. They were four and old and 670 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: losing their quarterback like this. This shows how short they 671 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: are on offensive talent, Like they're not going to turn 672 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: around and make that mean or may not make a 673 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: bowl game right now unless Garbers come comes back for 674 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: the U c. L A and the Stanford game, which 675 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: he may. I don't. I think that it's got a 676 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: little bit more to do with talent. I think they 677 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: may have some play calling issues. And let me just 678 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 1: point out that they had the ball at the twelve 679 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: and I at one point today they had the ball 680 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: at the twelve yard line and they ran five wide 681 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: empty backfield and Monster took an immediate set and it 682 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: was like I think it was second down, and it 683 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 1: was just like run the ball, just run the ball, 684 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 1: like you're not there's you can't lose seventeen yards running 685 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 1: the ball. You can get stuffed, but you can't give 686 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: up seven. You can't. Ah that that frustrated me very 687 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: very much. And I and some of the some of 688 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: the media from cal you know, we're pointing out that, 689 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: like you know, I'm saying run the ball, and they're saying, 690 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: we have you know, we're short a bunch of linemen. 691 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: Chris Brown is not really that guy. Um, but I 692 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: don't care, No Chris Chris. Chris Brown is a good back, 693 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: like he's a good path back twelve back. He's not elite. 694 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: And also, Oregon State has the worst rushing defense in 695 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: the entire back twelve giving up two still at six 696 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: yards a game coming into this game. I mean it, 697 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: you have to be able to run football against this team. 698 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,240 Speaker 1: But on the other side, Oregon State has won three games. 699 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: They've not won three games. If you add up all 700 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: their wins from last year and the year before, that's 701 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 1: that's three wins. That's all they got. So now they 702 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: are at that point and they're not getting blown out. 703 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: It's well except for the Utah game, but they just 704 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: got ultimately trashed, and the Oklahoma State game they got 705 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 1: beat up, but they still scored a lot of points. 706 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: But this is a team who is clearly building confidence 707 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: and John that this myth has them trending in the 708 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: right direction. I agree. I agree. I think that what 709 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: more can you do? If you're looking? I think I 710 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: think Jake Gluten is max surmizing his talent. Maybe you disagree, 711 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: but I think that he's playing about as well as 712 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: he possibly can um And I think that the running game, 713 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: which which was their strength, they haven't had to rely 714 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: on it as much, and so I'm looking forward to 715 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: that sort of building up over time. The receivers aren't 716 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: just you know, Kobe Taylor had a couple of good 717 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: catches today. I'm I'm a big fan of that kid. 718 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: He's a He's a really, really good dude. My daughter 719 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: was in the hospital as a baby. He came and 720 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: visited her. Every time he makes a catch. I bring 721 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: my daughter in and she has no idea what's going on, 722 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: but I make her watch the replays. He's got a 723 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: fan for life. And and and defensively, I mean they 724 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,240 Speaker 1: are very very bad. It didn't show today because obviously 725 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: cal doesn't how to move the football, but they're very 726 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: very bad. But they can rush the pass her a 727 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: little bit. So if you're in a situa asie where 728 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 1: they know and and this conference is full of inexperienced quarterbacks, right, 729 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: so you get an inexperienced quarterback back there and you're 730 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: in a situation where they get out ahead of you, 731 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: maybe they can do some damage. I still believe this 732 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: Oregon State defense is prone to give up fifty sixty 733 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: points to just about anyone anytime. Um, but that's not 734 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: what happened today. And they got themselves and win. They 735 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: do look like they're on the rise. Yeah, and we okay, 736 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: so and now we have another quarterback who's played in 737 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: the backpack as well, So I don't know if you 738 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: got the start. So we we may be up from 739 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 1: eighteen to nineteen now. But um, the next game up, 740 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: which was the biggest game of the whole weekend in 741 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: the pack twelve, which was Oregon headed up to Seattle 742 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: to play the Stinky Huskies. And the weather was bad 743 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: when they pulled up out there. It was storming. It 744 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: didn't seem to be raining or drizzling too bad. During 745 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: the game, it seemed pretty clear, which you know, which 746 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: made for a really good football game. Oregon one thirty 747 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: five thirty one. And I thought, because this this is 748 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: a rivalry game, we talked about it on the last podcast, 749 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 1: people don't understand how bitter this rivalry is started back 750 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,320 Speaker 1: in ninety eight with a whole what bunch of drama. 751 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: And I thought that Ralph, I thought this game showed 752 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: a lot about the pride of Chris Peterson and the 753 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 1: Washington Huskies. And I also thought it showed, uh, justin 754 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: Herbert grow up because there have been sometimes honestly, and 755 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm an Oregon guy where you where you see his 756 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: face on the camera and it doesn't instill like confidence 757 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: like where you're where you're like, oh, like he didn't 758 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: have that steal in his eyes all the time. But 759 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: I thought at the end of the game, when he 760 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: can completed that third down pass on the run, which 761 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: had missed three times earlier in the game, like while 762 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: while he was on the run and he and he 763 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: spiked it, I thought he grew up. And I thought 764 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: that this Oregon Ducks team that that lost to Auburn 765 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 1: made a big difference. And if this is a team 766 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: that looks more physical, they look deep, they look strong, 767 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 1: they look fast, and that's why they win the game. Yeah, 768 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 1: it's very possible. I was just being picky, but I 769 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 1: thought both teams, uh I left some points on the board. 770 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: I loved how physical Oregon was being. There was a 771 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: point when I just wanted them to run the those 772 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: little screens that had you know, sewel pulling out when 773 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: they scored a touchdown on was that Jalen Red scored 774 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 1: a touchdown, the seel came out and just blew somebody, 775 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to run the ball. I mean, 776 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: even C. J. Burdell looked like he was being a 777 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 1: little bit more physical than he usually is. I I loved, loved, 778 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: loved Oregon's running game in this game. I wish they 779 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: would have done it a lot more. I mean, um, 780 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: and then and then, as far as Washington goes, on 781 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: the drives where they moved the football, they scored on 782 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: the drives where they didn't move the football. It was 783 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: like the total jekylin Hide situation. I don't understand how 784 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 1: they had so many inconsistencies. And then you and I 785 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: will get into, you know, some of my other beef 786 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,800 Speaker 1: about the end of this game here in a second. 787 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: But it was a good football game. It was a 788 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,919 Speaker 1: good football game. I think the better team won. Um. 789 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: I I still felt like I was wrong because I 790 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 1: expected Oregon to come out and dominate. Of course, you 791 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: talked about you know, pride, home field, all that stuff, 792 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: but you you can't make up, you can't fake what 793 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: Jacob Eeson did today. And you and I keep going 794 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: back and about whether or not he's a real quarterback. 795 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: This had to work towards changing your mind a little bit, 796 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 1: No it didn't. I give a whole lot of credit 797 00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: to Chris Peterson and there um and there offensive coordinator too, 798 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 1: because I have never never in my entire life of 799 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: watching football seen a team shift and motion and do 800 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 1: so much window dressing as this game. Every single play, 801 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: Washington was flipping guys over, changing formations and then motioning 802 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,760 Speaker 1: across the Oregon's defense was having to adjust every single 803 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: play and nobody does that. Like they did a great 804 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: job in prep preparation. This is this was two weeks 805 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: of planning. This was not one week of planning. This 806 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 1: was two weeks of planning for Oregon's defense. Like even 807 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: though they were playing other games, they had somebody else 808 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,439 Speaker 1: and they were scheming for this as well. Because you've 809 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: never seen this ever. I mean, even though Washington does 810 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: a lot of it in general, they did more than 811 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 1: they ever do. And they were able to keep Oregon 812 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: off ballots, which which if you just if you just 813 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: line up and just run at them or row at them, 814 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna shut you down. But this was something that 815 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: most teams can't do that efficiently that Washington did so 816 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to give them credit. So Jacob Easton, he 817 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,879 Speaker 1: had some good throws, but he was throwing the open 818 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 1: people a lot of crossing routes, and he had Hunter 819 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: Bryant who made a couple of big time catches, and 820 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: he threw to to the kid Chen who was wide 821 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: open on a deep pass where there where the safety 822 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: covered a cross route instead of the post. I still 823 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: don't think. I still think Easton needs to come back 824 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: to school. He could be. He's still in the NFL quarterback, 825 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: but he's not a UM. I didn't think that this 826 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: game showed that he was ready to declare for the 827 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: draft right now. He got our boy Thomas Graham though, 828 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: on a play really really well and he got he 829 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: got God, that was a hell of a throw. Yeah, 830 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: but that was that was more on the safety Nick Pikett, 831 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: because he was supposed to be over over the top 832 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: and he he jumped on a crossing route for some 833 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,359 Speaker 1: inexplicable reason, So he was supposed to have some help, 834 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: even even though he was roasted anyway, even though Graham 835 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,959 Speaker 1: was roasted anyway, he should have had some some help. 836 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 1: But I thought that this game, though, overall, that this 837 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,240 Speaker 1: showed kind of the makeup of these two teams, because 838 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: Washington was stout up front for a lot of the game, 839 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,800 Speaker 1: but Oregon just played. I mean it was almost like 840 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,359 Speaker 1: watching the SEC football game like they like even when 841 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: teams jump out early and then they're playing other conferences 842 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: or something. I mean, they just keep running the football. 843 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: Just run you over, run you over. And then the 844 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: third and fourth quarter, Oregon just after or um Washington's 845 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 1: first drive and that came out and scored after halftime 846 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 1: and went up fourteen. People thought the game was over, 847 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: and Oregon just ranted at him, ranted at him, ranted 848 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: at him, completed passes and these quarterbacks through seven touchdown 849 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,919 Speaker 1: passes with no interceptions. You know who had a good 850 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: game with Johnny john And I've been waiting for him 851 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,760 Speaker 1: to be used as more than just a deep threat 852 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 1: because I don't think that that's when he was a 853 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: damn football Yeah, and that that's been an issue. See, 854 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 1: I always thought that the strength of Johnny Johnson was 855 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 1: his physicality, and I've always been wanting to see them 856 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,439 Speaker 1: use him on some more bubble screen or short route 857 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,240 Speaker 1: comeback stuff, and uh, I don't. Today it's just felt 858 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: like he clicked for him, and I know he's struggled 859 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 1: to be consistent, but I hope that that sticks because 860 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 1: he's somebody that could add a completely different element to 861 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,879 Speaker 1: their Uh you know, he's he's there are some an 862 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 1: Quon Bolden like traits in that young man. And so, 863 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: speaking of comparing players to NFL players, I've got two 864 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 1: comparisons for you, and I want to see how you 865 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: feel about them. Uh justin Herbert and now and now 866 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: you you know that I'm not just talking about the 867 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 1: NFL version, So so bear with me here. Justin Herbert 868 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: is giving me very serious Matt Stafford vibes. What do 869 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 1: you think of that one? Because he's one of Matt 870 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: Stafford's one of the most talented college players I've ever 871 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: seen in person in my life. When he was at 872 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,399 Speaker 1: Georgia with no Sean Moreno, he had all the armed 873 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: talent in the world. He came out as a mobile 874 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: quarterback as a freshman, but then they didn't really need 875 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: him to run anymore, so he kind of settled into 876 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: his role as a as a pocket passer. He's now 877 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: evolved into an NFL player who's sort of gravity is 878 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 1: always pulling towards mediocrity no matter what. But I had 879 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: been thinking about it. I was like, Justin Herbert could 880 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 1: spend twelve years in the NFL and ninety two, I 881 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised by that. I don't. I don't hate that. 882 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: I don't hate it. I don't hate it. I mean 883 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: I think that. I think that that's probably what Justin 884 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: Herbert's career is gonna look look like, unless he can 885 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,720 Speaker 1: unless he gets paired up with a really good coach 886 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: or a fantastic defense, which would which will change his 887 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: whole maturation. But I guess that's pretty much the same 888 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: for any other good quarterback in the NFL. Then I 889 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: got one more for you, and it's Jacob Eeson, and 890 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,760 Speaker 1: that is Kevin Cobb, a guy who has an absolute 891 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 1: rocket attached to his body in the form of his arm, 892 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,760 Speaker 1: but plays football the way that most people play Maddens, 893 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 1: and that's take a thirty six step drop before firing 894 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 1: the ball over the middle. Ralph, you came up with 895 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 1: two good examples. You came up with two good comparisons, 896 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 1: because Kevin Cobb rocket arm, like you're saying, but it's 897 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 1: just something about it that just never always comes together. 898 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 1: He's gonna be a career backup, probably a gets a 899 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: few stars here here and there, but it probably won't 900 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: all get put together. But you know, I mean, he hell, 901 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 1: he would have earned his shot. And you know, and 902 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 1: when you when you're born on third base athletically, it 903 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: helps a lot. When you're a big six six quarterback 904 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: that looks the part with a cannon arm, people are 905 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: gonna fall in love with you, even if they don't 906 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: necessarily should fall in love with you. Um, what did 907 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: you think about? Well, okay, so they're the only person 908 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,439 Speaker 1: that kicked the field goal in this game. Was was 909 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: Washington's kicker, who's still perfect on your season. But I 910 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,760 Speaker 1: didn't get great special teams play out of either punter. 911 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: I mean, and those are like the small things that 912 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 1: matter in terms of winning football games. Yeah, I think 913 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 1: that I think that that could be considered We I 914 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 1: don't know, we just we we haven't really had to 915 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:57,240 Speaker 1: see much. I think that it was Washington's punter looks 916 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 1: like um uh, our boy from from Breaking Bad that 917 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: just came out with a new movie on Netflix, Jesse. Yeah, 918 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: it looks like Jesse from Breaking Bad. And so that 919 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,359 Speaker 1: was that that made me laugh. A little bit. I'd 920 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: had a question for you these Oregon uniforms and they 921 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,800 Speaker 1: ever been used before similar because this was they're getting 922 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: to borderline and I sent you this tweet, but like 923 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 1: we're getting really close to the Invisible Car from the 924 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: show Atlanta uniforms where just everything is a mirror because 925 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 1: those helmets, I mean you, I was seeing more reflection 926 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 1: of other people in the helmets and I was actually 927 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,760 Speaker 1: seeing all over. Bit. Yeah, yeah, man, they've they've warned 928 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:44,240 Speaker 1: that they've worn the the the chrome helmets prior. But this, 929 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:49,239 Speaker 1: this uniform is called the Blizzard Universe uniform and but 930 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: it was formally and there's another iteration of it that 931 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 1: looks very similar to it with gray pants, and it's 932 00:54:55,360 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: called the Stormtroopers. So yeah, so the uniforms have names. 933 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 1: But before we go onto the next game, Ralph, I 934 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: know that you have a gripe about this game. Go 935 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: go ahead and tell it. Oh, that was past interference 936 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 1: on the fourth and three. It's past inference. I mean 937 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 1: you might say that it would have been soft to 938 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: throw the flag, and um, you and I can agree 939 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,799 Speaker 1: or disagree about that. But if you lose control of 940 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 1: your body and you run into a receiver with the 941 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: ball is in the air, you have to throw that flag. 942 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 1: It was dumb of Washington to even be in a 943 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:38,360 Speaker 1: situation in the first yep. And that you know what 944 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 1: that formation, That formation was trash. They put a guy 945 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 1: in motion, but they could have just thrown They honestly 946 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 1: could have thrown a little pick play or a screen. 947 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 1: But they put they put the other receiver in motion. 948 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,359 Speaker 1: They isolate the freshman out on an island and throw 949 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 1: a slant and and maybe he should have fallen over 950 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: or something or or sould it. But you can't lose 951 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 1: control of your body and bump a receiver and not 952 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: and and have the ref keep the fla in their pocket. 953 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: The only time that you could see that, first of all, 954 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: was when they showed it in replay on slow motion. 955 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: In fast motion, his hands weren't weren't on him. You 956 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: weren't even sure if he even touched him. And and Pooka, uh, 957 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 1: Pooka was falling down already all by himself. And we 958 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 1: all complain about how soft pack twelve officials called past interference, 959 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 1: right we we we all do. I complain about everything 960 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: to do with too soft letting him play or whatever. 961 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 1: Just never really seems like to get it right. And 962 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't like that. I don't like that there's a 963 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: question mark at the end of the game. But there 964 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: at a bit of question mark. Had they called it, 965 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: they would have said it's a soft pass interference called. 966 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: So you're putting them in an unwinnable situation. Bro, you 967 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 1: you wanted both ways. You just want to Washington, just 968 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:03,240 Speaker 1: wanted Washington to win. It's all right, Well, I picked Oregon, 969 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 1: and Oregon was about the only saving grace that I 970 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: had all day. That a terrible day, terrible week picking game. 971 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 1: So no, I that wasn't it at all. I just 972 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: I think that if you're a defensive back you lose 973 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: control of your body and you bump a receiver with 974 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 1: the ball in the air, it's fourth and three, game 975 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: on the line. If you're the back judge right there, 976 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 1: you don't have a choice. You gotta take the flag 977 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: out of your pocket, you gotta throw it, and then 978 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 1: you've got to deal with the scrutiny that comes with it. 979 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: But the fact is, like they made contact of the 980 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 1: ball and he can't do that, And I will give 981 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: you it right, No, you're you're correct. But if the 982 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 1: contact was in if he had a hand on his back, 983 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 1: if he had a hand on his back, I'd say no, 984 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 1: because that's incident. It was like within it was kind 985 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 1: of within five yards he ran. The slant that he 986 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 1: ran was sort of directly at the defensive back. It 987 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: wasn't exactly crisp or whatever, easting through the ball too 988 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 1: hard to like he was not a good That was 989 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: not a good throw. So I'll give you all those things. 990 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, like the receiver 991 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 1: was interfered with, and the penalty is called past interference. 992 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 1: I can't do anything about the rules. All I know 993 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 1: is you can't hit a receiver. You can't and so 994 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 1: and that happened, and and again probably shouldn't have been 995 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: the situation they were in the end in the first place, 996 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 1: not a good play called took way too long, like 997 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,440 Speaker 1: they were taking their sweet little time, and they were like, oh, 998 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 1: we'll just they had to buy like five or six 999 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: minutes left, and they were like, oh, we'll just march 1000 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 1: it down slowly. We're not in a rush trying to 1001 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 1: get I was genuinely shocked. I was genuinely shocked how 1002 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: quick that last couple of minutes came off the clock 1003 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 1: before they were getting hurry at all, like they were 1004 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 1: just they were just chilling like oh like oh, it 1005 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 1: was like they needed a field goal or something. No, 1006 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 1: you needed a touchdown. But but Chris Peterson, I heard 1007 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 1: a lot of Washington fans kind of downing him because 1008 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: they're like, he can't win the big games. They're five 1009 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 1: and three right now, won't win the Rose Bowl, and 1010 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 1: he can't win the big games. Do you agree or disagree? 1011 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that. I mean 1012 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 1: they what examples are there? I will say Kwan Berkley, 1013 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 1: Like they couldn't beat Kwan bar. I don't. I don't 1014 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 1: fault him for that. I mean, this is a team 1015 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: that when he got there, they were a couple of 1016 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 1: good work. He had a couple of good recruiting classes 1017 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 1: from sark and they weren't that far removed from an 1018 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 1: O and twelve season. He's do not complain about what 1019 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 1: you have. I swear to God, Washington fans have nothing 1020 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 1: to complain about. Who could they get that's better? Nobody? Who? Nobody? 1021 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 1: Who could they get that more vibes with like the 1022 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 1: Seattle he looks like he's a Tech executive like that 1023 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 1: everything is fine. They weren't. They've got they've got a 1024 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 1: new quarterback. Most of the They've put so many defensive 1025 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 1: backs into the NFL that it's incredible that they even 1026 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 1: have any left over at this point. Recruiting has been good. 1027 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 1: It sometimes you're gonna have a year where you only 1028 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 1: win eight or nine games. Good Lord, spoiled brats, all right. 1029 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 1: The next game up, we got the um We got 1030 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:33,000 Speaker 1: the Arizona State Sun Devils at Utah, and I thought 1031 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 1: this line of fourteen points was outrageous until it was 1032 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 1: halftime and Utah was up fourteen zero. I was like, 1033 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: oh man, they have enough points to win, to win 1034 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 1: by fourteen, they have enough points at fourteen points. But 1035 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 1: Arizona State ended up uh got a field goal and 1036 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 1: Ralph So I didn't watch this entire game because the 1037 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: because it was just a nos er dude, and it 1038 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 1: was sad to watch. I watched about two thirds of 1039 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 1: this game. And how how many total times did Arizona 1040 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,440 Speaker 1: State crossed the fifty yard line? Probably six? Probably six? 1041 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 1: That's how crazy this game was. You t turn the 1042 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 1: ball over four times and you and this was this 1043 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: was brutal. I here, here's something that I had said 1044 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: earlier in the evening and uh and and it's I mean, 1045 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 1: it was like purgatory or football Hell. If Arizona State 1046 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,920 Speaker 1: in the second half of this game had unlimited downs, 1047 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 1: so it wasn't first down, second down, third down, first down, 1048 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 1: second out, ThReD down, it would have gone worse if 1049 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 1: they had unlimited down. That's how That's how unbelievably well 1050 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,920 Speaker 1: Utah had a s U figured out, and how well 1051 01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 1: this defensive line was was playing. I mean it was 1052 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 1: they were absolute monsters on the defensive line. And I 1053 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: mean even even if a SU had the opportunity to 1054 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 1: run more plays, they just would have lost more yards. 1055 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 1: Like I've never seen an offensive line get dominated in 1056 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 1: this fashion before. Who knew that Bradley and I would 1057 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 1: be able to man handle a seventeen year old Like 1058 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 1: who knew that Lecky Foe two was not going to 1059 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 1: have a problem against the true freshman? Like who knew 1060 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:32,080 Speaker 1: that John Pensini unblocked, was going to murder Jane and 1061 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 1: Daniels over and over again? This was something else man 1062 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,560 Speaker 1: And and with Jade Daniels towards the end of the game, 1063 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 1: after he got hit for like the five billion time, 1064 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 1: it shouldn't have even been in the game anymore. You 1065 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 1: started to see him not look not lose his cool 1066 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 1: because you know, rich Rod loses his school. Like, he 1067 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 1: didn't get angry. But there was a couple of times 1068 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,560 Speaker 1: where he was just like, come on, man, tickdown clock, 1069 01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 1: we can't do this anymore. Yeah, okay, So to make 1070 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 1: it worse, all right, So okay, So if you didn't 1071 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 1: watch any of the game, here are some stats that 1072 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 1: will make you under understand it. So the the first 1073 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 1: stat which would be deceiving, which which just speaks to 1074 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 1: this kid, kid's ability. You know, Benjamin fifteen carries a 1075 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 1: hundred and forty yards. I don't know how. I don't 1076 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 1: know how you get a negative two yard run today 1077 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 1: that Yogi Roth called the best negative two yard run 1078 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 1: in the history of football. He was, he was doing 1079 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 1: it today. He looks so good. Yeah, yeah, the kid 1080 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 1: I I and I thoroughly apologize. I thoroughly apologize to 1081 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 1: Arizona State fans, to you know, Benjamin for not putting 1082 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 1: him in the top five offensive players in the preseason. 1083 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: I was wrong. This kid is amazing. Imagine if he 1084 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 1: were running behind the Oregon's offensive line. Oh, I mean, yeah, yeah, 1085 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 1: he's he's incredible. He would rush for two thousand yards. 1086 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,440 Speaker 1: But but the but the stats. I was gonna tell 1087 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 1: you Jaden Daniels who we who. Everybody who's seen this 1088 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 1: kid play believes he's gonna be a star. He was 1089 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 1: under such drest and such pressure. And when Ralph says 1090 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 1: that they could have had unlimited downs, he's right. They went. 1091 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 1: He finished the game four for eighteen passing, four for 1092 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 1: eighteen passing with an interception. I mean for twenty five yards. 1093 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 1: Arizona State through the ball for twenty five y'all, let 1094 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 1: me qualify that for eighteen because it can. It sounds 1095 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 1: like the worst stat line of all time, but it 1096 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 1: can get worse. The fourteen in completions, almost every single 1097 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 1: one of them. The ball left his hand less than 1098 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 1: two seconds after being snapped and was thrown eight rows 1099 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 1: into the stands. He was just getting rid of it 1100 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 1: as fast as he possibly could to avoid getting sacked. 1101 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,280 Speaker 1: He was still getting hit, amazingly. He only got sacked 1102 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 1: three times in this game, but he was hit probably 1103 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 1: twenty The other thing is his longest completion of the 1104 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 1: day was twelve yards and that was a call that 1105 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 1: had to be overturned through video replay. Frank Darby on 1106 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:26,200 Speaker 1: the sideline. So he was almost three of eighteen four 1107 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 1: thirteen yards. That's what his stat line almost was, had 1108 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 1: replay not stepped in to give him a twelve yard completion. 1109 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't, it wasn't. It wasn't even a matter of 1110 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 1: like what did he look bad or not? He didn't 1111 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 1: have time to look good or bad. The second that 1112 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 1: the ball hit his hands, he was getting destroyed, destroyed. 1113 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean it was wild. He'd step up into the 1114 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 1: pocket and they'd spy a safety or a mental linebacker 1115 01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 1: and then he'd get drilled immediately anyway from all sides. 1116 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I have never seen a kid getting beat 1117 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,000 Speaker 1: up like this. He still managed to not take too 1118 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,919 Speaker 1: many direct hits, which is amazing because he's he's he's 1119 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 1: gotten the phyzik of a broomstick. But like he he 1120 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 1: was just getting rid of the ball as fast as 1121 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 1: he possibly could. And it was I mean, it was 1122 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 1: just a pathetic man. And and then you know, Benjamin 1123 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 1: touched the ball and average of four times a quarter, 1124 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 1: so I think they only ran like fifty plays total. 1125 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 1: It was complete dominance. Yeah, and Jane Daniels rushed sixteen 1126 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,960 Speaker 1: times for eight yards and the long was eight so 1127 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 1: that lets you know how it went. But if we 1128 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 1: do have to give big props to um Zach Boss 1129 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 1: carries ninety yards two touchdowns and he became and my mind, 1130 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 1: you until the fourth quarter he he only had like 1131 01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 1: twenty No, he had twenty nine yards in the fourth 1132 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,640 Speaker 1: quarter and still finished with ninety nine. And the cool 1133 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 1: bar was is that now he is Utah's all time 1134 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,920 Speaker 1: leading rusher. The kid gets a lot of credit. And 1135 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 1: but I was kind of interesting because he got hit 1136 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 1: on a play where Arizona States safety got ejected on 1137 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,280 Speaker 1: a targeting call and he was laid out on the 1138 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 1: field for a couple of minutes talking about his head, 1139 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 1: and then he came back in the game. I'm like, 1140 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: this kid is not a concussion Like that's weird, dude, 1141 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,000 Speaker 1: Like that made me uncomfortable that he came back. It 1142 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,080 Speaker 1: made me uncomfortable that he came back in the game. 1143 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,640 Speaker 1: But then the way he played, he didn't play can 1144 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,560 Speaker 1: cuss like, he didn't look he looked fine. It was 1145 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: actually Tyler Huntley that shouldn't have He had a calf 1146 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 1: injury and he tried to play through it and it 1147 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 1: was just an absolute mess. He was getting beat up 1148 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 1: even worse than Jade Daniels was for a time. Um 1149 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 1: And and you threw a pick that fumbled three times. 1150 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, that when Zack Moss was laying on the field. 1151 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 1: The fact that he was back in that game just 1152 01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 1: a few snaps later was insane to me because that 1153 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 1: it and and a lot of Utah fans said that 1154 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 1: that was a dirty hit, But the truth is, Evan 1155 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 1: Fields just put his head. Evan Fields almost got himself 1156 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 1: killed on the field by putting its head down. He 1157 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,640 Speaker 1: thought he was gonna spear Zack Moss in the chest. 1158 01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:15,959 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Zack Moss is going to the ground. 1159 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,120 Speaker 1: They hit helmets, and I'm genuinely surprised that both players 1160 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 1: weren't knocked out of the game instead of one getting 1161 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 1: thrown out and one coming back to series later. That's 1162 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 1: scary stuff. Man. You gotta keep your head up if 1163 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,720 Speaker 1: you're you have to keep your head and your face 1164 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:36,280 Speaker 1: mask like perpendicular to the play. Yeah, Tyler, like I 1165 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 1: can talk about Tyler Hunley got got hurt. And part 1166 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 1: of the magic and the charm of him is the 1167 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 1: fact that he can run, like he adds a dimension, 1168 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,240 Speaker 1: he escapes tackles, and if he can't do that, Utah 1169 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:54,719 Speaker 1: is not Utah turns in the Cow without Tyler Huntley, 1170 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,719 Speaker 1: they turned into Cow, a really good defense that can't 1171 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 1: beat people. So if he has to miss any time, 1172 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,400 Speaker 1: or if he can't run, because cafedguries reoccur pretty easily, 1173 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 1: even after you think that they're fine. So they have 1174 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:15,599 Speaker 1: Cow next week, who's gonna blitz him? They're gonna blitz them. 1175 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 1: Put I mean, it's gonna be a muddy, ugly game. 1176 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 1: And like, do you think that there is anyway I mean, 1177 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,640 Speaker 1: if if he has to miss time, you talk to 1178 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 1: be in trouble like this, I think. So I just 1179 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:39,160 Speaker 1: watched their defense do a thing. So yeah, but they 1180 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,639 Speaker 1: were But but but Ralph, that we're playing against the kids. 1181 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,639 Speaker 1: They were playing against seventeen year olds with year olds 1182 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:51,360 Speaker 1: you ever seen that was like, that's kind of what 1183 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,639 Speaker 1: that looks like. Yeah, but I mean, if you only 1184 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,040 Speaker 1: need seven points to win, if it's gonna be a situation, 1185 01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 1: oh man, I don't know. I you it's gonna be 1186 01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,559 Speaker 1: real hard for to get me. The same thing bad 1187 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 1: about Utah. Uh tonight. Maybe well, if we talk in 1188 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 1: a couple of days, maybe my my early pick in 1189 01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:18,360 Speaker 1: the Utah cal game. If cal if if um, if 1190 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley is out, I'm picking Cow. I'm letting you 1191 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,439 Speaker 1: know that right now. But we gotta email in Ralph 1192 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,679 Speaker 1: and I wanted to read it to you. Hey guys, 1193 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 1: it's about this game pretty extensively. Hey guys, I gotta 1194 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,400 Speaker 1: say this is from Mr Nelson. I gotta say you 1195 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,040 Speaker 1: guys made some bad calls on the podcast last week. 1196 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,360 Speaker 1: First was the spread on the Utah A as you game. 1197 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,200 Speaker 1: I bet Utah would cover and I got mine. I 1198 01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,800 Speaker 1: think the justification from close folk games in the last 1199 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 1: few years was weak. A as you did not have Wilkins, 1200 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,320 Speaker 1: Harry and Benjamin is not nearly as good as some 1201 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 1: people think you can um. Yeah, A su surprised me 1202 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,760 Speaker 1: with the defense that they showed. But did you really 1203 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 1: think a freshman quarterback could beat Utah? I don't think 1204 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:16,360 Speaker 1: enough respect it's been shown for Utah's defense. Last rant, 1205 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,120 Speaker 1: why does Ralph love Tate? The guy is garbage and 1206 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 1: he has been. He had a few good games two 1207 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,840 Speaker 1: years ago and that's it. He beats up on week 1208 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,960 Speaker 1: teams but never shows up to a quality team. He's 1209 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 1: terrible and that's what was supposed to be a game 1210 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,719 Speaker 1: to watch. Please, the guy is a predictably a letdown. 1211 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,320 Speaker 1: Other than that last podcast, I've been enjoying the insights. 1212 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:52,320 Speaker 1: That's a great question. I'll play on him. Oh man, dude, 1213 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 1: your your love of Galtate is unreasonable. But anyways, um, 1214 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:02,160 Speaker 1: the Cougars of Washington eight have bounced back finally. They 1215 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:07,880 Speaker 1: took a clubbing to the Colorado Buffalo's forty one to ten. 1216 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 1: The game was played in Pullman, and this looks much 1217 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,720 Speaker 1: like the Colorado team that finished the season last year 1218 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,960 Speaker 1: on a seven game losing streak. They can't They were 1219 01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,600 Speaker 1: bad on offense, bad on defense. This this team is 1220 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,559 Speaker 1: headed nowhere fast and Mail Mail Tucker, he's recruiting all 1221 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,200 Speaker 1: these j C kids. I mean that's because he's got 1222 01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 1: to get everybody out there. You know how they run 1223 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:37,679 Speaker 1: Ralphie before the games. This Colorado team looks a lot 1224 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,839 Speaker 1: more like the running of the covered wagon before today's 1225 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:46,800 Speaker 1: Sooner game. But it got come out and strong and 1226 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 1: then the wheels fall off and everything tumbles and I 1227 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,160 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. Really what to think. I 1228 01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 1: know that I know the defense is bad, but the 1229 01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:00,120 Speaker 1: fact that they couldn't move the ball, um and are 1230 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,560 Speaker 1: turning the ball over a bunch against Washington States defense, Like, 1231 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,920 Speaker 1: do I really who's not good? Yeah? No, they're not. 1232 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,760 Speaker 1: They're definitely not. I mean, so we're just talking about 1233 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 1: how Jade Daniels a child and with Darry Sanderson and 1234 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,759 Speaker 1: Donovan West and this you know, this Arizona State offense 1235 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 1: full of eighteen year olds. Um, they just put thirty 1236 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,360 Speaker 1: four points up on this defense and then came out 1237 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,000 Speaker 1: and put up three, which, by the way, broke a 1238 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,559 Speaker 1: streak of like a straight games of double digit scoring 1239 01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,560 Speaker 1: for a s U. So like, we know, we know 1240 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:39,559 Speaker 1: that Washington States defense is that bad just comparatively from 1241 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 1: week to week. And we know what Colorado can do 1242 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:43,760 Speaker 1: on offense because of what they did in the second 1243 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,840 Speaker 1: half against Nebraska, because of what they did to Arizona State, 1244 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 1: and they will I mean, Montez was turning the ball over. 1245 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,280 Speaker 1: May do really think that the defensive coordinator and that 1246 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 1: defensive staff were able to get stuff together in in 1247 01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,760 Speaker 1: a week? What happened? George explained to me, what is 1248 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,600 Speaker 1: going on with the two teams because this result is 1249 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,800 Speaker 1: the most confusing to me. And not only did I 1250 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,320 Speaker 1: want to go with Washington State because you talked me 1251 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,559 Speaker 1: out of my Colorado pick being making any sense. Then 1252 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,320 Speaker 1: you talked me back into the Colorado pick, saying I 1253 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:22,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't change my mind. Uh, dude, I knew you were 1254 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,720 Speaker 1: gonna lose this game. I That's why I wanted you 1255 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,759 Speaker 1: to pick Colorado. I knew this was going to happen. 1256 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:33,920 Speaker 1: Colorado has quit their their confidence is broken. I mean, 1257 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:38,840 Speaker 1: it is broken beyond repair. This team is is in 1258 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,439 Speaker 1: a bad way. I mean, and mail Mel Tucker has 1259 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,040 Speaker 1: got some soul searching to do with this team. They 1260 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,680 Speaker 1: in Steven Montes, who started the season off hot. He 1261 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 1: didn't even look like the same guy. This is a 1262 01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,840 Speaker 1: team to put thirty fifty two on Colorado State, thirty 1263 01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,320 Speaker 1: four on Nebraska, twenty three on Air Force, thirty one 1264 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:03,320 Speaker 1: against air Arizona State, thirty against Arizona, but then only 1265 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,920 Speaker 1: three against Oregon. And Washington State, who was giving up 1266 01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,479 Speaker 1: thirty one points a game coming into the game and 1267 01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:13,519 Speaker 1: they can't score it is it makes no sense. And 1268 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:18,000 Speaker 1: Mike Leach his team puts up I mean, Anthony Gordon 1269 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:22,680 Speaker 1: had another spectacular game, three hundred sixty nine yards, four touchdowns. 1270 01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:26,360 Speaker 1: He's still leading the nation in passing. Max Borgie finally 1271 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:31,080 Speaker 1: went over a hundred yards Arconado their wide receiver hundred 1272 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:38,080 Speaker 1: yards touchdown, Winston Borgie, Harris Uh, Patman, everybody caught passes 1273 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 1: and touchdowns and everything. This is just and and for 1274 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 1: color and for Colorado. Laviska Shenaut was finally the leading receiver, 1275 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,960 Speaker 1: but he only had forty six yards. What what the 1276 01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,320 Speaker 1: hell happened to his season? I told you, Ralph that 1277 01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,600 Speaker 1: he was when you put him on the on the 1278 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,519 Speaker 1: podcast a few uh one of our first podcasts with 1279 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,400 Speaker 1: the twelve most important players in the conference, like close 1280 01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,719 Speaker 1: to the top. I told you he's not important because 1281 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:11,720 Speaker 1: his team's terrible. I guess, I mean, yeah, you're kind 1282 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:15,640 Speaker 1: of be improving, right, But I think if obviously, if 1283 01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,400 Speaker 1: they were feeding him, they'd probably be in a better 1284 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 1: place than they're end right now. I thought that they 1285 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,240 Speaker 1: use him more. He did have a rushing touchdown today, 1286 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,960 Speaker 1: but I thought that they'd use him even more because 1287 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 1: the one thing that this Colorado team is missing is 1288 01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:32,000 Speaker 1: a running back with that Philip Lindsay attitude. Like when 1289 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 1: they had Philip lindsay, they had a dude who no 1290 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,080 Speaker 1: matter what, you know, he was going out there and 1291 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,320 Speaker 1: he was gonna grind and he was gonna get his 1292 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,760 Speaker 1: And they're just kind of softest hell in the running game. 1293 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:47,880 Speaker 1: And that's you can't be a team called the Buffaloes 1294 01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:53,679 Speaker 1: and not be able to run. I tell they agree, 1295 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,040 Speaker 1: both of these teams are bad, and um, so we 1296 01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,800 Speaker 1: can move on to the next game. I guess uh. 1297 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,400 Speaker 1: The last game of the day was your boys, the 1298 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:10,920 Speaker 1: Arizona Amaston's the Arizona Amazdon Wildcats versus the USC Trojans. 1299 01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:16,240 Speaker 1: USC just demolished them. From the beginning forty one fourteen. 1300 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:21,160 Speaker 1: I knew that this was gonna happen. This Arizona sucks, 1301 01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 1: first of all. But the but the reason why they 1302 01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:29,680 Speaker 1: suck and aren't just a bad team, it's because they 1303 01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,759 Speaker 1: have no identity. You have no clue what this team 1304 01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:37,280 Speaker 1: wants to be. Like why like after the first First, 1305 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,439 Speaker 1: first of all, we both agreed that clilty should not 1306 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 1: have started. They should have just moved on the grant. 1307 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:48,200 Speaker 1: But but but then they let the game get so 1308 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,080 Speaker 1: out of reach and Kalil tates doing absolutely nothing and 1309 01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,559 Speaker 1: you keep him in. I don't understand, Like, what are 1310 01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:55,720 Speaker 1: you doing, Kevin Summing? And then when they took him 1311 01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:59,120 Speaker 1: out Grant and theyll got rocked on the very first 1312 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,800 Speaker 1: dropped act. Did you see that Isaiah pul him Ou 1313 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,920 Speaker 1: came out of nowhere and just blew him up? My goodness, 1314 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:09,479 Speaker 1: that they gotta they gotta have just stick with Grant. 1315 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,240 Speaker 1: Maybe ask Khalil Tate if he'd be willing in some 1316 01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,720 Speaker 1: capacity to provide them something on the because hes got 1317 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,040 Speaker 1: to have better hands in Jamari Joyner the other converted quarterback. 1318 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,679 Speaker 1: He's gotta have better hands of Drew Dixon, the other converted. 1319 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,400 Speaker 1: So I mean, if you if you can find a 1320 01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,040 Speaker 1: way to get him on the field that he can 1321 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:30,280 Speaker 1: help your offense, great, But he Khalil Tate, I'm not 1322 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,320 Speaker 1: asking him to be a diva or a jerk on 1323 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,200 Speaker 1: the sideline. But this is about the fifteenth time he's 1324 01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:39,960 Speaker 1: been benched this year and he does not seem to care. Yeah, 1325 01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,440 Speaker 1: I told you he's got this less a fair attitude 1326 01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:47,000 Speaker 1: as I uh, whatever, he can't win though he can't 1327 01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,560 Speaker 1: win though if he shows any attitude at all, he'd 1328 01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,120 Speaker 1: be chased out of town like he's in such a 1329 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:57,360 Speaker 1: weird situation. He thinks he's an NFL quarterback. He does. 1330 01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, he's not, honestly, like, I don't know 1331 01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:03,000 Speaker 1: what going through his mind right now. He's a he's 1332 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:08,320 Speaker 1: a twenty year old senior who had some really really 1333 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,519 Speaker 1: good games. He's only twenty. He's he's he's a year 1334 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:18,519 Speaker 1: young for his grade. Wow, he doesn't like man. This 1335 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,840 Speaker 1: was it just was a the Normazony thing was a 1336 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,200 Speaker 1: bad marriage from the beginning. They should have gone with 1337 01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:26,799 Speaker 1: Greg and L. He should have transferred out. He shouldn't 1338 01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,240 Speaker 1: have He shouldn't have thrown his little Twitter tantrum when 1339 01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,759 Speaker 1: they were going to hire coach Uh coach Ken from Navy, 1340 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 1: because if he had coach Can from Navy, first of all, 1341 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,639 Speaker 1: they probably be recruiting better. And second of all, there'd 1342 01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,880 Speaker 1: be elements of that triple option that he'd be able 1343 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,479 Speaker 1: to shine in and then he could figure things out 1344 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 1: when he got to the NFL. But he's not even 1345 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,320 Speaker 1: gonna have that opportunity anymore. This is such a mess. 1346 01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,880 Speaker 1: They just need to go with Greg and L. They 1347 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,880 Speaker 1: got to find a way to not get him killed. Now. 1348 01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:59,240 Speaker 1: I said this team before and eight right. I expect 1349 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,639 Speaker 1: them to lose every single game from here on out, 1350 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,400 Speaker 1: and I will I'll probably pick him against them in 1351 01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,800 Speaker 1: most games, just because they're not deep, they're not very 1352 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,519 Speaker 1: well coached. But I do believe that they have very 1353 01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:14,960 Speaker 1: talented running backs. They've got a couple of really good 1354 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,240 Speaker 1: pieces on defense, and if they just run with Ganel 1355 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,400 Speaker 1: and they get their system going, by the time this 1356 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,160 Speaker 1: comes around next year, they could be a very dangerous 1357 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,920 Speaker 1: football team. But he needs reps, So he needs reps. 1358 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,800 Speaker 1: They got to get away from clil tape. So you 1359 01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:36,000 Speaker 1: think that they're gonna lose at Stanford this week? Yeah? Yeah? 1360 01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:40,000 Speaker 1: Oh god, Stanford's terrible and they beat Washington. We don't 1361 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,000 Speaker 1: know what Stanford it. What if they get so what if? 1362 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,920 Speaker 1: What if Davis Mills is the quarterback? Oh then then 1363 01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:49,439 Speaker 1: then yeah, I like I like Stanford at the game. Um, okay, 1364 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,920 Speaker 1: So you said they're gonna lose their last five. Do 1365 01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:55,679 Speaker 1: you think they're gonna lose Oregon State at home? Jake 1366 01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,360 Speaker 1: Lewton who doesn't turn them all over? And that that 1367 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:03,160 Speaker 1: defense makes everyone looked good? So I don't know. I yeah, 1368 01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 1: I think there's a chance. The chance it was to 1369 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,800 Speaker 1: Oregon State. Yeah. How about do you think they're gonna 1370 01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 1: lose to Oregon in Utah and Arizona State? Yeah? I 1371 01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,760 Speaker 1: think I think they'll get killed in all three of 1372 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:19,320 Speaker 1: those games. I do too. Um, what do you what 1373 01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:26,360 Speaker 1: was your take on the on Like, well, I looked 1374 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,200 Speaker 1: at you at USC in this game and I didn't 1375 01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:33,120 Speaker 1: see anything. Like they didn't do anything special either, Like 1376 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,280 Speaker 1: they were impressive. They were more aggressive than I I'm 1377 01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:40,160 Speaker 1: used to seeing that. Bringing Isaiah Polamu on the blitz 1378 01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 1: was was. I'm I'm happy for that guy because he's 1379 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,519 Speaker 1: had multiple shoulder surgeries and I don't know if he 1380 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,120 Speaker 1: ever there had to be times when in his mind 1381 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:50,640 Speaker 1: he didn't know if he was ever going to be right. 1382 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,920 Speaker 1: And so now that he's healthy, he's at a nice element. 1383 01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,400 Speaker 1: I saw Drake Jackson go down tonight. Hopefully he's okay, 1384 01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:01,640 Speaker 1: because without Drake Jackson, this the sense is gonna struggle. 1385 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,280 Speaker 1: He's and we spend a lot of time talking about 1386 01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:08,000 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels talking about Keaton Slovis. The most talented freshman 1387 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,320 Speaker 1: in all the PAC twelve of this year is probably 1388 01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:14,120 Speaker 1: Drake Jackson and so like the that defense really means 1389 01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,680 Speaker 1: him I agree with you that I don't think they 1390 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,800 Speaker 1: did anything super special, but they were definitely more They 1391 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:26,800 Speaker 1: played a little more proud than they have in previous weeks. Well, 1392 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,400 Speaker 1: they are gonna have a trouble running the football going 1393 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,200 Speaker 1: going forward. I know that the kid uh ke keenan 1394 01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,639 Speaker 1: Kristen that he ended up with eight carries a hundred 1395 01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,640 Speaker 1: three yards. But this was this was in mop up 1396 01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:45,040 Speaker 1: duty and and all of that. But Marquis step got 1397 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:51,400 Speaker 1: got hurt. Uh Malapai uh is out for the season. 1398 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:57,679 Speaker 1: Steve banged up too, like, so they're down to They're 1399 01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,000 Speaker 1: down there like their fourth and fifth string running back. 1400 01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,599 Speaker 1: And this is not like when when C. J. Gable 1401 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,800 Speaker 1: and and everybody else was there, Ronald Jones and all 1402 01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,120 Speaker 1: these cats where they were four or five six deep 1403 01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:14,760 Speaker 1: of top recruits. This is not the case. So when 1404 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,800 Speaker 1: you get down to your fourth string running back, that 1405 01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,360 Speaker 1: means that you can't protect this well. And then when 1406 01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,160 Speaker 1: he goes out, your fifth string is in you can't 1407 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,599 Speaker 1: protect he's not as good. This is a USC team 1408 01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:29,439 Speaker 1: that's been beat up really bad and going down the 1409 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,200 Speaker 1: stretch there four and three right now, they're three and 1410 01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,480 Speaker 1: one in the pack twelve. They got Colorado at Colorado, 1411 01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:40,439 Speaker 1: which which, weirdly, even though Colorado is quit, they made 1412 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,280 Speaker 1: it's altitude. They may put up a little bit of fight, 1413 01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,479 Speaker 1: and if USC doesn't jump out, that could be a 1414 01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:50,800 Speaker 1: close game. Then USC has got Oregon at Arizona State 1415 01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,080 Speaker 1: at col U c l A. They could lose three 1416 01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:58,200 Speaker 1: more games. I mean, who knows what the hell is 1417 01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,760 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Yeah, I like him to lose one more 1418 01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:05,000 Speaker 1: for sure, but I think that I don't know that 1419 01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,280 Speaker 1: there was a lot of injuries today. Um Keith and 1420 01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,200 Speaker 1: Slovis hadn't gorn to pick since b y U. If 1421 01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,960 Speaker 1: he keeps taking care of the football, Um, they'll have 1422 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,720 Speaker 1: a chance in pretty much every game they play just 1423 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,000 Speaker 1: off of talent alone. And if they can keep being 1424 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,960 Speaker 1: aggressive on defense like this, I don't seem why they 1425 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,000 Speaker 1: won't give anybody that they play a headache. I after 1426 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:29,000 Speaker 1: today though, I can't. I can't even flirt with the 1427 01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:33,200 Speaker 1: idea that Colorado is going to give him any trouble 1428 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:39,000 Speaker 1: Like Colorado is. Colorado and Arizona are two very bad 1429 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,519 Speaker 1: football teams with a bunch of good players on them, 1430 01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:46,040 Speaker 1: And there's nothing more frustrating. And I can I give 1431 01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:50,800 Speaker 1: you a piece of a piece of knowledge that could 1432 01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:56,320 Speaker 1: impact how you feel about Dick's game about USC at Colorado. Okay, 1433 01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:02,479 Speaker 1: it's played on Friday night. Jeezus, let's play it on 1434 01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,720 Speaker 1: Friday night. Bro. So you know what that means. You 1435 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:09,200 Speaker 1: and I both know what that means. That means there 1436 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:12,880 Speaker 1: is at one in the morning. Well well, well that 1437 01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,920 Speaker 1: and it's a potential for and and upset you guys. 1438 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,839 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening to the Pac twelve Apostles podcast. 1439 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,080 Speaker 1: We appreciate your time energy sharing the podcast. Tell a 1440 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:26,439 Speaker 1: friend about the podcast, peace out. We will catch you 1441 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:27,720 Speaker 1: guys later.