WEBVTT - Listener Mail: SquareHouse Cinema? 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:06.080 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:12.480 Hey you welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind Listener mail. 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:14.000 My name is Robert Lamb. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:16.720 And my name is Joe McCormick. And it's Monday, the 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:19.119 day of each week that we read back messages from 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.480 the Stuff to Blow your Mind mail bag. If you've 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.120 never gotten in touch before, why not give it a shot. 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:28.200 You can email us at contact at Stuff to Blow 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.760 your Mind dot com. Whatever kind of message you want 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.720 to send is great. Of course, we always welcome feedback 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:36.040 to recent episodes. 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That's all fine too. 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.920 It is contact at Stuff to Blow your Mind dot com. 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:00.040 Let's see Rob if you don't mind, I'm going to 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.840 kick things off with a response to our series on mud. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:05.160 Yes, please date. 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:09.880 This is from Stefan and Stefan says that he is German, 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:14.720 so he hopes his German English is acceptable. It's perfectly acceptable, Steffan. 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.640 We always want to hear from anybody whatever state you're 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.880 English is in, you know, send it on in. We'll 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:23.520 do what we can with it. So we appreciate this. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:28.440 This is following up from a digression in one part 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:32.440 of that series about the famous scene in the movie Predator, 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:36.640 the Original Predator with Arnold Schwarzenegger where he evades the 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:40.639 heat vision of the alien hunter by covering his body 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:42.840 in mud, and we talked a little bit about whether 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:44.840 that would actually work. It seems like if it did work, 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:47.120 it would only work for a very short time, basically 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.760 until the mud heats up to same temperature as the 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:58.280 rest of your body. Stefan says, Hey, Robert and Joe, 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.200 great podcast has always many thanks for your work. A 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:05.880 short remark to mud, Arnold's and Predators. This is a 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:11.079 direct reference to the German legend daslid der Nibelungen. Siegfried, 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:15.120 the hero of this legend, killed a wildly feared dragon 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:19.519 with his sword, the Balmung. A bit of the dragon's 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.880 blood spilled on his skin, and he noticed that his 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:27.760 skin became invulnerable due to this plaster. He jumped into 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.600 the puddle of dragon's blood and in this way provided 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:36.720 himself with an impenetrable armor, except one little spot on 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.639 his back, right between his shoulder blades, which was accidentally 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:45.120 covered by a leaf of a linden tree. The story 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:49.920 goes that his wife cream Hilled, gave this information to 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:56.120 his rival Hagen van Tronier Tronia, sorry, I'm doing my best, 0:02:56.120 --> 0:03:00.000 also who a little later took the opportunity to kill 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.240 Siegfried by stabbing him with a spear right at the 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.480 spot in his back which was covered by the leaf 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:11.120 and therefore still vulnerable. I think mister Antol, the director 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:14.480 of the first Predators movie. And a quick side note, 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:18.560 I think Stephan might have been confused here because Antol 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.480 is the name of the director of the twenty ten 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.760 movie Predators, but the name of the director of the 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.520 first movie from nineteen eighty seven was John McTiernan. But 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:33.239 whatever the case, Stefan is saying about the director of 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.360 the first Predator movie, Stephan says must have been a 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.880 big fan of the German legends. So replace Siegfried by 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.240 Arnold and dragon's blood by mud, and you don't have 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.760 to go a long way to Arnold's and mud puddles 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:49.880 winky face emoji. I hope my German English was sufficient 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.040 to get this remark across. Looking forward to your next podcast, 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:57.360 Greetings from northern Germany, half between Hamburg and New Munster 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.120 if you are interested, Stefan. 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:05.000 Oh, that's wonderful. I mean, obviously, connections between myth and 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:09.000 legend and modern horror and sci fi movies. I mean, 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.520 that's that's our that's our cup of tea. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.680 Now, this is a good question. I haven't seen the 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.839 original Predator in quite a while. I don't recall how 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:22.800 the mud invisibility armor is eventually compromised. What happens? Does 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:27.479 Arnold fall into water and that washes it off? I 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:28.680 think that might be the case. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.760 Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to remember as well. Because he 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:36.120 evades the Predator successfully and then of course preps for 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.560 the big showdown where he makes an unrealistically powerful long bow. 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:44.200 Yeah, he builds a bow, just like stretching it with 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:44.800 his arms. 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.120 Yeah, and then he covers himself with mud again, and 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:52.279 you know, looks really badass to go out for this fight. 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.719 But yeah, This is where you can really get You 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.360 can ask a lot of questions about how long the 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.040 mud would be effective, were were effective at all. I 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.320 don't remember how how that battle really plays out. I 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.200 think there's some back and forth there, because it's a 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.760 pretty good fight. You know, it's the it's it's it's 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.159 it's man against alien. It's it's Dutch bringing all of 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.800 his clever tricks versus the tricks that the Predator still 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:20.960 has a bit sleeve, including a nuclear weapon literally up. 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.400 Well, and it has a move in it that I 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.000 always like in movies. For some reason, I find a 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:33.799 lot of the best human versus monster movies have this convention, 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.600 which is the humans set a trap for the monster 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.200 that always works well. I like that in you know, 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.239 going way back to the Thing from Another World nineteen 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:47.200 fifty is it nineteen fifty the Howard Hawks movie, you know, 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.080 where they set the electricity trap and they you know, 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.840 Dutch does it. In Predator. He like builds up a 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.720 counterweight log trap to try to pin the Predator up 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.719 against like an overhanging branch that he hides by knives, 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.280 and that doesn't exactly work out to plan, but he's 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.320 still able to use the trap in a counterintuitive way 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.520 to win in the end. In fact, speaking of myth 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:13.520 and legend, I would be interested in in tracing that 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:17.000 that sort of human versus monster trope all the way back, Like, 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.560 are what are the early versions of that where the 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.839 hero is not able to defeat the monster in a 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.080 direct contest, but defeats it by setting a clever trap. 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.839 Oh, you know, this is something we could potentially explore 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:31.680 in a future episode. Maybe this would be a good 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:37.640 one for Halloween season this year. We've touched on ghost 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.039 traps before on the show before, but there could be 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.920 more there, you know, monster traps and myth and legend, 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:48.279 whereas ghost traps are often actual physical items and artifacts 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:49.040 of superstition. 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.000 Right in about your favorite monster traps, whether that's from 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:55.960 an ancient myth or from a modern movie. 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.560 All right, We continue to hear from a lot of 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.800 folks concerning our Dream Falls series. This one comes to 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:10.080 us from Adam. Adam writes, Hello, Robert and Joe and 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:16.040 the rest, by which you means Jja, longtime listener of 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.120 the show here. I've always wanted to write in, but 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.640 after listening to the last listener mail episode, I now 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.600 have some things to share. It's time for some more 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:29.600 Baku content. In the video game Neo, there are many 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.880 types of guardian spirits. We had to look this up. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:33.280 By the way. 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:37.400 This is a Japanese video game that I believe is 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.920 released on like the PlayStations. I'm not sure which format 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.800 you know. I'm not familiar with the PlayStation so much 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:44.440 these days. 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.880 Neither of us have played it, so we're unfamiliar. 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:51.400 So Adam continues. These are animal familiars that grant divine 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.920 protection and power to those they favor. In the sequel 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:59.520 Neo two, one of these guardian spirits is a baku. 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:04.760 This particular baku is called Yumihami. Its name literally means 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:09.600 dream eater. Its dream eating abilities are not shown in game, 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:14.200 and it uses lightning powers instead. I believe its dream 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:18.080 eating nature is more symbolic. In the story, Yumihami is 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:23.400 the guardian spirit of the game's main antagonist, Otakimaru. Otakimaru 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:27.200 bestows Yumihami to a character whose ambitions are getting out 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:30.440 of hand, causing him to turn into a villainous warlord. Thus, 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:32.960 it could be said that the baku devours the dreams 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.080 and ambitions of others. To fuel its own. In the 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:40.800 game's expansions, you eventually acquire a Baku named as such. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.840 The game describes the Baku as devouring the desires of people. 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:49.520 It appears to have been corrupted by Otakimaru's dream to 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:53.640 destroy humanity, which, given his history of interfering with humanity 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.560 to cause conflict, also lines up with the idea of 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.920 devouring the dreams of others to fuel its own. Otakima 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.920 Momorrow eventually fuses with the Baku in an attempt to 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.200 fulfill his dream, causing him to become a horrible monster, 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:10.080 which has no physical Baku traits for his final battle. 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:12.880 Now, it would be funny if the horrible monster did 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:14.960 have Baku traits and it, you know, it looked like 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.680 a taper that you like, a monster taper that you 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:18.200 had to fight. 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.959 I mean, I'm sure it could be done. People love 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.080 taking cute things and twisting them into a little bit 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:28.320 to the left into something a little more horrifying. But anyway, 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:29.720 I'm gonna have to do an image search on these 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.000 later and see what these look like. Yeah, Adam continues 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.640 that appears to be all the interesting things about the 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.800 Baku in Neo two that I can think of. The 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.319 neo games have their own interesting takes on Japanese folklore 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.040 and mythology, and the Baku's depiction is just one of them. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.040 Never anything really deep, but fun to talk about. Anyways, 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.520 thank you for hosting this show for many years and 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.319 for all the interesting topics you've discussed. Hopefully I can 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:56.440 write in another time with more ideas regards Adam. 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.200 So, one thing this got me thinking about is the 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:04.520 multiple meanings of the word dream in English. So in English, 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.600 a dream is the on one hand, the experience you 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.240 have while you are asleep. It's like, you know, you 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.200 go to the dream world, you have dreams, but the 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.520 same word is used to mean desires, basically the things 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.000 you wish to accomplish with your life, or you wish 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:23.520 what happen to you. And I realized I don't know 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.840 if that same double meaning occurs in other languages. So 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:30.120 like in Japanese, does the same word mean the things 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.320 that you see when you're asleep and the things that 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.120 you desire in your life? I would assume based on 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.040 the blurring here in the game, where a quote dream 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.240 eater is something that eats your ambitions, that means that 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.520 it's the same way in Japanese, and I wonder if 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:44.920 it's that way in many languages. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.160 Yeah, it's a fascinating question, you know, when you get 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:51.960 into the linguistics of things like this. Well, Adam, thanks 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.200 for writing in. So many of these video games are 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.400 off our radar, especially these days, so it's great to 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:00.600 hear from folks who are familiar with them, because, yeah, 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.480 there's so much amazing, amazing creativity that goes into these 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.920 these virtual worlds that have been and continue to be 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:13.480 created for the video game making a market. 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:22.600 All right, I'm going to read a message in response 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:27.000 to our episode The Machine Speaks, which was about machines 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:31.360 that were designed to synthesize human speech from before the 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:36.680 age of electrical machines. So basically just like acoustical mechanical 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:40.679 machines almost kind of pipe organs that were that were 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.160 designed to try to speak like a human and to 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:47.600 some degree accomplished that feat. So this message is from Magnolia. 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.600 Magnolia says, maybe it was the lack of sleep that 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:52.880 got to me, but I listened to your recent episode 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.760 The Machine Speaks. During a late night laundry crusade. Parentheses, 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:01.400 broken dryer and found the story of Fober, that's Joseph Fobber, 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:07.440 the inventor of the Euphonia and his Euphonia, absolutely heartbreaking. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:11.160 Often while listening to history, I find myself imagining myself 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.800 as a time traveler speaking to the subjects that I'm 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:17.240 learning about. In this particular case, I saw myself approaching 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.720 a depressed and disheveled Fober, my phone in one hand 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.440 and the tiny blue case with my earbuds in the other. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.440 I imagine myself saying something along the lines of this for 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.480 your right ear and this for your left as I 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:34.239 shared the earbuds with him, and then playing something explaining 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.520 how his efforts eventually inspired the creation of the miracle 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.400 I was now demonstrating. The problem comes in when I 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.960 tried to imagine what I would play for him. The 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.840 first scenario that I imagine was playing him the episode that 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.199 I was just listening to. But I don't think hearing 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.920 people's opinions of him would have been great for his 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.959 mental health. Oh yeah, hearing all those descriptions of him 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.120 is like a disheveled and obsessed and haunted Oh. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:01.400 I think we were sympathetic to it, But yes, we 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.880 were reading some unkind things by others. 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:05.880 Well, I think even some of the people who described 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.640 him that way were sympathetic. They were just saying like, hey, yeah, 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:09.920 this guy's having a hard time. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.559 Yeah, they didn't hold anything back. 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:16.200 Yeah, but Magnolia goes on. The next thing I imagined 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.720 was some contemporaneous music opera maybe, but I don't know 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.480 enough about the music of his day to make a 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.520 good choice. At this point, I've spent way too much 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.080 time trying to imagine what to play for this person 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.800 I'll never actually meet. So I throw the question to you, guys, 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.079 what would you play for a depressed and disheveled fober 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.440 to give him hope and show him what the future 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:39.240 held Magnolia? Ah, okay, So the idea that I guess 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:44.160 not just music but speech could be replicated in a 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.720 synthetic way and with infinite variety. 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:47.760 Hmm. 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.760 I mean, I guess the boring answer is to set 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.000 him a talking to Siri or something, you know, just 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.360 get him with like a digital voice assistant there. But 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.520 I bet we could do better than that. To say, 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.960 I would play some of those Peter Frampton songs that 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.920 have the vocoder in them. You know what I'm talking about. 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.440 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be a good choice. 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:12.480 Does he feel like we do. 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:14.679 Now? 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.040 He does because he's because he's hearing it himself. 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.360 Oh well, how about the nineteen eighty three Neil Young 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:21.560 album trans. 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.680 Wow, Well that's kind of out of nowhere, but okay, 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.720 yeah that does have vocoder, Yeah, I. 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:29.840 See, yeah, robot voice going on in there. Yeah, I 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.080 don't know. I guess in general, I would I would think, well, 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.160 he's in a tough place. I want to probably play 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.400 some self help content, like, you know, think some eck 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.040 cart toole or something. But if I but it was 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.040 just music, I you know, i'd probably fall back on 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:46.360 Tangerine Dream, you know, play him a nice, nice Tangerine 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.160 Dream album. Maybe Ruby Kant, that's a good one. Nineteen 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:49.760 seventy five. 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.080 I'm cycling through the songs on that Neil Young album 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:58.880 in my head. Maybe maybe maybe he should hear Computer Cowboy. 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:05.840 Oh, I remember liking some of them, Transformer Man, Unit 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:06.760 to Sample and hold. 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.600 There's actually a there's a nice cover of Transformer Man, 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:16.000 but an acoustic one on his unplugged album from oh nineties. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.480 I don't think i've heard that. Opticos Go look that up. 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:20.760 All right, We're gonna go ahead and transition into some 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.680 weird house listener mail here. This one comes to us 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:33.040 from Pat. Guys, you recently asked about Elvis movies? Was 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.200 he in a western? Was he in a movie in 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.920 which he did not sing? Charro and Charo? The title 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:40.640 of this movie has an exclamation point at the end 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:44.200 of it. A non singing Elvis Western. This movie was 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:47.960 typical of fifties westerns and not particularly special. I saw 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.960 it on an afternoon television showing. In the sixties and seventies, 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.440 local television station showed a movie every day at four o'clock. 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:59.120 They would have presentations like Elvis Week or Road two Week, 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:04.080 Crosby and Hope Buddy Pictures. Thanks again, Pat. All right, 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.040 So I had to look this up, and I actually 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.440 actually ended up texting my aunt a little bit, because 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:12.200 my aunt is a huge lifelong Elvis fan, like that's 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:15.480 one of her big things. So I reached out to 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.480 her with a couple of questions about non singing Elvis movies, 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.960 and she told me that, yep, there's only one non 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:24.000 singing Elvis movie, and it is indeed nineteen sixty nine's 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.600 Charro By the way. It's also the only film in 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.560 which Elvis wore a beard. Oh, look this up, and 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.320 he has a beard like in some shots and promotional stills, 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:36.840 it looks more like stubble. Other times it looks like, yeah, 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.240 he's kind of got the beginnings of a full beard. 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:42.320 There, I'm looking it up right now. Okay. He plays 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.440 a character named Jess Wade. Oh yeah, I see the beard. 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.320 I mean, yeah, it's a kind of a beard. 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.520 Yeah, it's but it's significantly more beard than you usually 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:54.680 see on Elvis. I also asked my aunt what her 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.400 favorite singing Elvis movie was, and she couldn't pick just one. 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.840 She said that there are many good ones, but the 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.840 quote Jailhouse Rock is excellent, and then she included a 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:08.840 chef's kiss emoji. And she also highlighted King Creole and 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:13.680 Blue Hawaii. King Creole is notable. It has both Carolyn 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.000 Jones and Vic Morrow in it, both of whom have 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.040 come up on Weird House Cinema, and Blue Hawaii had 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:20.560 Angela Lansbury in it. 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.880 I don't think I've ever seen all of an Elvis movie. 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.720 No, No, neither neither of I you know, And I 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:29.919 guess the kicker is We could never actually cover an 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.320 Elvis movie on Weird House, not a proper Elvis movie, 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.199 because Elvis movies are pretty much the opposite of weird. 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.920 He never popped up in anything with a like speculative element, 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:44.159 no horror, no even real thrillers. However, I have toyed 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.720 with the idea of doing a series of like square 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.240 movies by weird directors. I guess we'd call it square 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.639 house cinema, looking at stuff like John Carpenter's nineteen seventy 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:56.399 nine Elvis movie starring Kurt Russell and Shelley Winters, or 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.439 David Cronenberg's Fast Company from the same year, which is 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:01.600 carr movie. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:04.400 I see in the notes you said that one has 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:05.520 George Buza. 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.480 In it yep, along with John Saxon and an actor. 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.639 The star is William Smith, who played Conan's father in 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:16.520 Conan and the Barbarian. This is probably a funnier idea 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:20.040 than it would be an execution, though, so probably just 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:21.760 best to stick to things that are actually weird. 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.880 Okay. One last weird House message. This is from Tauntrey. 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:34.560 Tauntrey says hello again to my favorite podcasters. Loved the 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.639 black Hole episode. I'd never seen or even heard of 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:41.000 the film and am delighted to have watched it now. However, 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:46.040 I think you guys misread the ending. Maximilian and this 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:51.800 is the devilish sort of steally red ARCon robot. The 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:57.400 evil robot. Maximilian is I think supposed to be doctor 0:18:57.680 --> 0:18:58.879 Kate's father. 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:00.359 Hmm. 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.040 I definitely didn't put that together, but Tontree goes on, 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:08.119 that's why doctor Reinhardt said he's afraid of him, and 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:11.800 then when he mentions Kate's eyes so specifically, it is 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.640 foreshadowing to the end when Maximilian and doctor Reinhardt are 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:19.480 in the black Hole hell and we see her father's 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:25.880 eyes inside Maximilian's head when he's tormenting doctor Reinhardt. The Horror, 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:31.679 The Horror. Also regarding the black Hole the ride, I 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:36.119 found this and then Tautrey includes a link to something 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:39.800 I couldn't click through to for some reason, but anyway 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.800 I found it seems to be about a ride that 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:48.320 was never fully implemented at Disneyland that would have been 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.920 based around the movie The black Hole. I think it 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:56.840 is something that, if I understand correctly speculatively, this ride 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:00.919 was previously what's it called Adventures in Innerspace and then 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:03.600 eventually it was turned into the Star Tours ride. 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.480 Yeah. Star Tour is a fun ride. 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.320 Oh yeah, yeah, that was like the Star Wars ride 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:14.040 they had before the modern era of the lucasfilm Disney Union, 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:16.040 like it goes back to the eighties and. 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.440 They still have some version of it. My son and 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.200 I wrote it when we went down to the Star 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:22.800 Wars land at Disney World. 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:25.440 It is what do you call this type of ride? 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.960 It's where you're not actually like going anywhere in the ride. 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:31.880 It's more kind of like showing you a three three 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.480 D video and moving you back and forth in a barrel. 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:38.560 Yeah. I forget the industry terminology for this. But there's 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:42.160 a great series on Disney Plus about like the story 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:44.080 behind some of the key rides, and they get into 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:44.560 this one a. 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:49.040 Bit simulated motion or something. But Tandrey, coming back to 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:55.360 your idea about this being Maximilian's father, that's very interesting 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.480 and I think you may be onto something. I didn't 0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.920 catch that at all while watching. And when you see 0:20:59.920 --> 0:21:03.640 the eyes inside Maximilian and the kind of hell after 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.679 life dream sequence at the end, I assumed that to 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:11.520 be doctor Reinhardt's eyes and him being sort of having 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:16.399 merged or fused with Maximilian and he's trapped inside. But 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.480 I could totally see it being the other way around too. Yeah. 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:22.879 I like hearing a different read on this. It certainly 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:26.880 it's ambiguous enough that it invites different interpretations. 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.440 And I think it would make sense of doctor Reinhardt 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:34.080 surprisingly saying he's afraid of Maximilian and then like asking 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:38.000 Kate to protect him from Maximilian, which doesn't really make 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:39.200 any sense otherwise. 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:43.480 Yeah, yeah, I mean it barely makes sense even with 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.760 this interpretation, but that I like a fresh interpretation, and 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.560 you know it, And it's also neat that that Tantry 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:51.600 got the experiences for the first time. You know, we're 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:56.560 bringing we're bringing these films out for folks to experience, 0:21:56.640 --> 0:22:00.280 treasures from the Temple for everyone to enjoy. 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