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Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Higheartradio.

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Speaker 2: Scandal Rewatch, Posaz and Katie.

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Speaker 3: Gee, Katy.

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Speaker 4: Oh it's happening.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, we are actually here. We're doing the Scandal

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Speaker 1: Rewatch podcast Unpacking the Toolbox together together.

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Speaker 5: I mean, don't get me wrong, I am very excited

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Speaker 5: to rewatch episodes, which we have to tell you guys

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Speaker 5: how it's been going. And we've been wanting to do

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Speaker 5: a rewatch podcast and hang out with our fans. Are

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Speaker 5: gladiators who we have missed for far too long. But really,

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Speaker 5: this is just my excuse to hang out with my

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Speaker 5: favorite person on the planet.

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Speaker 1: Same. We just want to hang out together so we

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Speaker 1: could talk shit and reminisce about one of the best

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Speaker 1: shows on television. Yes, do you remember when the last

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Speaker 1: time you watched like a Scandal episode? Well?

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Speaker 4: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 5: Okay, First of all, it has been ten years. We

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Speaker 5: just celebrated the ten year anniversary of the pilot era.

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Speaker 6: That's crazy.

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Speaker 5: I don't think I have watched like I don't think

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Speaker 5: I've watched any episodes of you.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so either. You know, there was a

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Speaker 1: moment there where they were still playing, like on ABC

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Speaker 1: a glimpse. But I wouldn't I wouldn't stay. I would

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Speaker 1: be I would sort of, you know, smile inside and

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Speaker 1: being able to do that for the podcast was like

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Speaker 1: a gift mat I have.

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Speaker 5: To say again, like the biggest When I was like,

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Speaker 5: we're doing this scandal rewatch podcast. It's called Unpacking the Toolbox, which,

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Speaker 5: let's just take a moment. That is a freaking great title.

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Speaker 1: It is the best title. I love it so much.

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Speaker 5: It's so Huck and Quinn. It's so Huckleberry Quinn. It's

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Speaker 5: so right for the gladiators, the oji. Gladiators. You know

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Speaker 5: about our toolbox, you know about Huck and his tools.

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Speaker 4: It's great. Okay, So I'm packing the toolbox.

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Speaker 1: And there's a toolbox emoji now on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: There's a toolbox emoji.

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Speaker 5: So gladiators, suit the fuck up, tell your friends about

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Speaker 5: this fucking podcast, and make sure you put the toolbox

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Speaker 5: emoji when you do so. Yes, but right quick, I

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Speaker 5: was like mostly excited to hang out with you because

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Speaker 5: I'm obsessed with you and I think you're the most special,

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Speaker 5: special connection. But I was most freaked out about going

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Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know, I.

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Speaker 5: See, I fucking hate watching myself.

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Speaker 4: You couldn't pay me.

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Speaker 5: Well, you could pay me a million dollars or do so,

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Speaker 5: And because of this podcast, going back and rewatching these episodes,

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Speaker 5: because G and I are taking this podcast very seriously.

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Speaker 5: We are we are doing our research. We are watching

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Speaker 5: the episodes backwards and forwards. We have amazing guests coming in, yes,

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Speaker 4: But I am loving the episode.

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Speaker 1: It, like I don't remember shit, I don't remember. I

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Speaker 1: And I feel like we were so caught up while

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Speaker 4: It's so good, and I feel like a gladiator.

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Speaker 5: Yes, with a gladiator, I said, Quinn says gladiator in

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Speaker 4: And right now going back.

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Speaker 5: And watching these episodes, I am such a man, I

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Speaker 5: I love everyone's characters, the writing, the way that it

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Speaker 6: And what's good.

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Speaker 1: I want to say real quick too, that what's good

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Speaker 1: about this podcast is even if you haven't rewatched the show,

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Speaker 1: you're still gonna freaking enjoy the podcast because that's how

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Speaker 1: fucking nutty and like fun and crazy and kooky me

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Speaker 4: Yeah we have fun.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but if you can rewatch Scandal on Hulu, because

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Speaker 1: it really is a freaking amazing show like no other.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it holds up. That's one thing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure so many actors artists watch stuff

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Speaker 5: Scandal one hundred percent holds up. I am watching all

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Speaker 5: the other critically claimed shows right.

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Speaker 4: Now and Scandal is just as good.

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Speaker 3: If not better.

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Speaker 6: It's better.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you yourself a favor.

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Speaker 5: Listen to the podcast, rewatch the episodes, hang out with us.

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Speaker 5: Every episode is going to be such a fucking good time.

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Speaker 5: It's me and g hanging out shooting the shit. Yes,

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Speaker 6: It's all back together.

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Speaker 1: And this is our first freaking show.

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Speaker 5: It's the first podcast we've ever done.

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Speaker 4: We are going back in time.

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Speaker 5: It's the ten year anniversary since the pilot aired and

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Speaker 4: All of our lives. Really.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and Gemo and I are wearing our tg T

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing a season two Scandal like baseball jersey type

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Speaker 4: We deserve all the applause that we are fitting.

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Speaker 5: We are going to be bringing out on this podcast

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Speaker 5: all the vintage throwback Scandal things we got. Yeah, Okay, Gee,

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Speaker 5: take me back to where you were in your life

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Speaker 5: before Huck, What the heck were you doing?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I was at a point in my life where

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Speaker 6: That's where I was in my life.

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Speaker 6: Where were you? Do you remember where you were at?

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Speaker 5: Like right before, Oh my god, I was twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: Remember the first time you and I met?

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Speaker 6: Katie? I don't remember, do you?

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Speaker 4: How dare you?

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Speaker 1: I feel like you've always like we've always been connected,

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Speaker 5: Yes one, the only, the most special Queen Bee herself

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Speaker 3: it was the first leading role for a woman of

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Speaker 3: color and a drama in like thirty seven years or something.

446
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 3: So one thing I was very clear about was there

447
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 3: are so many actresses who've never gotten this shot. Like,

448
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,119
Speaker 3: we're not turning anybody away, Like if you were of note,

449
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 3: we are not turning you away. So it felt like

450
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,399
Speaker 3: it was this like march of like fifty like some

451
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 3: of the most incredible actresses I'd ever seen showing up

452
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 3: at our office, and it was amazing to watch. It

453
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,439
Speaker 3: also broke my heart because why should it have to

454
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 3: be this way?

455
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Speaker 1: So you could only cast one?

456
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I.

457
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Speaker 3: Could only cast one. And so it came down to

458
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Speaker 3: Carrie Anicanoni Rose I love it, and Jill Scott, three

459
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 3: women who could out more different, close.

460
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,360
Speaker 5: Be more different. Also would love to see a show

461
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 5: with the three of them.

462
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Speaker 3: But I loved them all and I loved everybody's performance

463
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 3: as Olivia Pope. I really did. And I just kept thinking, like,

464
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 3: would show my writing because I'm writing a different show

465
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,199
Speaker 3: for each one of these women. It just felt like

466
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 3: it was going to fundamentally be different for every for

467
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Speaker 3: every woman. And in the end, I sat down with

468
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 3: Carrie and I remember thinking like, she's too pretty, like

469
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 3: somebody this powerful, like doesn't get it get away with

470
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Speaker 3: being and I was, which was so wrong with me?

471
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Speaker 3: And then I sat down with Carrie and she talked

472
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Speaker 3: politics like nobody's business for like an hour, and I

473
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 3: got it entirely immediately.

474
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the whole and I get it.

475
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 5: I mean, Carrie Washington is an alien of remarkable beauty.

476
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Speaker 3: It's like yes, yeah, yeah, No one looks like that.

477
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 4: Yeah no, no one looks like that. No one has

478
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 4: bone structure like that.

479
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Speaker 5: I mean, she's gorgeous, and she's also incredibly politically active

480
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 5: and an activist and all these things that really lined

481
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Speaker 5: up for the perfect Olivia Pope. I mean, yeah, yeah,

482
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 5: this pilot, the amount of slow mo walking scenes in

483
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Speaker 5: a white Coat is.

484
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Speaker 4: The greatest.

485
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Speaker 5: Oh, it just satisfies every part of your being watching it.

486
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,199
Speaker 3: Is it's like it's like the dream life in a

487
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Speaker 3: way that you want to live.

488
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Speaker 5: Yeah, hell yeah, Shonda, did the Studio Network know that

489
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 5: Olivia Pope was a black woman or no when you

490
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 5: wrote it?

491
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Speaker 3: So I want to be clear. When I went in

492
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Speaker 3: to pitch this, I told Channing, I said, and she's

493
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Speaker 3: going to be black because Judy Smith is black. And

494
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 3: Channing just nodded, and I don't I think, like me,

495
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 3: she didn't think as Channing's a woman of color. I

496
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 3: don't think she thought like I better go warn everybody

497
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 3: or anything like this is not a problem, right. And

498
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 3: so when they picked up the pilot, the head of

499
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: casting called me and was like, Connie Britton would be

500
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Speaker 3: the perfect choice for this role. And I said, I

501
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 3: adore Connie Britton. She would be except Olivia Pope is black.

502
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Speaker 3: And it was like this long moment of silence.

503
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Speaker 1: Wow, wow, Yeah, I was just going to bring up

504
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Speaker 1: what you brought up before, like like the casting process

505
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Speaker 1: for the rest of the of the cast. I remember

506
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Speaker 1: for going in for Huck and I remember getting this

507
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: and being like super pissed off that I was even

508
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: being considered for this because I think the character was

509
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: described as like in his like fifties, like mid fifties.

510
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Speaker 1: I was like, I was like thirty nine at the time,

511
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Speaker 1: and now I'm fifty one, and I'm like, is the

512
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Speaker 1: new twenty like?

513
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Speaker 6: But at the time, I was like, what the fuck?

514
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Speaker 6: They wouldn't why.

515
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Speaker 4: You're like, how dare you think I'm fifty?

516
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

517
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: I just felt I wasn't right for I remember going

518
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: into the audition to read for you, Shondaan for Linda Lowe,

519
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: and I think there was somebody else in the room

520
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: and just being like, gonna do my best. And you

521
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: wrote this like brilliant monologue and the character was obsessed

522
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: with like little figurines that were all over his desk.

523
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that.

524
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to write something just to cast the

525
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: role because didn't say much and I knew that eventually

526
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: he would. Yeah, I knew eventually he would. So I

527
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 3: wrote this monologue.

528
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: Oh it was so good. And then so I did

529
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: the monologue and then we just all kind of sat

530
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: there in silence for a minute, and you looked at

531
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Speaker 1: me and said, you're a very interesting actor.

532
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Speaker 6: I remember that so clearly, and I was like, oh,

533
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 6: thank you.

534
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: And then I left. And then you know, another odd

535
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: thing that happened with casting, It was that you you

536
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: cast I think most of us, at least me, after

537
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: just one audition. There wasn't a lot of fanfare. You know,

538
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: we didn't test for it, but you just knew. And

539
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: the fact that you got this whole cast together that

540
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: has such amazing chemistry and it all just freaking was Oh,

541
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: it was so special, Like, but I know Katie's stories.

542
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 3: Like Katie's story is crazy, but didn't.

543
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Speaker 1: You first tell her that she didn't get it?

544
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 5: So they called me in and I think I'm going

545
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 5: to test and they say, Seanda says, you can see

546
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 5: this on the behind the scenes DVD of Seasons.

547
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.

548
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 4: See my audition.

549
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 5: She gave me the part and I cried, real, real,

550
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 5: ugly cried, and I.

551
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Speaker 3: Loved it so much. It was like it was like

552
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 3: the most fun thing I ever got to do is

553
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Speaker 3: to like deliver good news to somebody. You know, it's

554
00:24:59,560 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: just lovely.

555
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 4: And then I said, what am I supposed to do?

556
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: And you said, someone's gonna call you and there's going

557
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 5: to be a wardrobe fitting and there's going to be

558
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 5: a table read.

559
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 4: I was like, there's gonna be a people read.

560
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Speaker 3: Okay. I didn't first tell her that she didn't get it.

561
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 3: What I said was she came in to do the test,

562
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: and then we brought her in the room and we

563
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 3: already had the camera rolling, and I said, Kittie, you're

564
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 3: you know I swelled you let you know you're not

565
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Speaker 3: going to be able to test for this part. And

566
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Speaker 3: she was like just so politely, like like trying really hard,

567
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 3: and we see her dying a little bit inside, and

568
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: I was like, you guess we're just gonna give it

569
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: to you, and she was like she like went crazy.

570
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Speaker 3: It was. It was so much fun.

571
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Speaker 5: Oh my, I've never I mean, that's your you know,

572
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 5: you've won the lottery. You know you've here's your car,

573
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 5: and you're I mean, it was insane. It was so

574
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 5: but even bigger than that because it had been something

575
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 5: I'd wanted and worked for. I think when I was

576
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 5: twenty three or something, I said to someone, I just

577
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 5: want to work with Shonda Ryan.

578
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

579
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 3: But Shonda.

580
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Speaker 5: Most actors have to go through nine like like prereads, callbacks, producers, tests,

581
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 5: different sides, different looks, where's something else, come meet this person?

582
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: It is awful, and then you start to shoot the

583
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: show and there's like not really that much chemistry or

584
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: this show is not that great after all that bs,

585
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's a good point.

586
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, you put in all that work and then you're like,

587
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 3: uh No. For me, it was like I knew, and

588
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: I'm very honest, I knew when I saw you, like

589
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: what I was like, this is perfect, Like this is

590
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: exactly what I was looking for. When I said, say,

591
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 3: well Katie, I knew when I saw her that was

592
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: exactly what we're waiting for. And because she was newer,

593
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: the network was like, she needs to test. And then

594
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: Linda Luwi and I went at the network and we're like,

595
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: we're not doing a test, Like we're not doing that.

596
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 3: Like's the only person who's getting this Getting off of

597
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 3: this part. I use a lot of I'm not making

598
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: this pilot a lot to get what I wanted, which

599
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: is not very mature.

600
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Speaker 1: I love it.

601
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,239
Speaker 6: I love it.

602
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 4: Garamon and I talk about this all the time.

603
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 5: So for you listening, Shanda is usually not on set

604
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 5: because she's really busy writing a new number of other reasons.

605
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 5: But for our pilot, which I think took three two

606
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 5: or three weeks to make Shonda was there for every

607
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 5: single frame we shot nights.

608
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 4: It was cold. We were in a really.

609
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 5: Dank, downtown cool place that we then built and made

610
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 5: into Olivia Popen Associates on a stage.

611
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Speaker 4: Do you have any what are your memories from being there?

612
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 4: For those? I mean we were up all night loopy?

613
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I remember, like one. I remember being

614
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 3: there to make sure everybody talked fast enough? Do you

615
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: know what I mean? It was really my big word

616
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: was everyone's not going to talk fast enough. And part

617
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: of that talk fast enough was simply that I had

618
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 3: written a really long pilot.

619
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Speaker 6: You were like, y'all got to talk.

620
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 4: Quick, We're not cutting this out.

621
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

622
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 3: I felt like the pace of this show, like the

623
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 3: pace of how these people live their lives. You know,

624
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: White House could be slower, but Pope Associates was like

625
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 3: this speeding thing, and I wanted that to happen. I mean,

626
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 3: it was so interesting because I just met Paul mcgigan.

627
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: I didn't know him. I just had loved his pilot

628
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: Sherlock and the work he'd done there, and we talked

629
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: for a long time. But I was also there to

630
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 3: like sort of go like, what what's he doing, what's

631
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 3: he choosing to do? What's the look going to be?

632
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: Because I really don't Yeah, I don't talk in visuals.

633
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: I really just you know, talk in story and what

634
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 3: I'm thinking. And so to watch him translate that was great,

635
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: you know, it was a really great experience.

636
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have in my notes one of one of

637
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: the other characters on the show was were these panels

638
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: that are our DP started to incorporate into shooting, do

639
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: you remember, Katie. Like we would do our traditional coverage

640
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: of the scene, and then somebody would call out panels

641
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: and then they would bring out these sort of beveled

642
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: pieces of thick glass and they would stand the characters

643
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 1: be behind these glasses and the camera would sort of

644
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: you know travel, you know, side side to side, and

645
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: it just gave it this like sexy, like sort of

646
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: dangerous like voyeous unique look.

647
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, h voyeuristic feet. Yeah, that's so true.

648
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 5: And the colors like what they created, the dark blues

649
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 5: and grays, and like it just seemed really not poppy.

650
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 4: It didn't seem bright at all.

651
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 5: It seemed sort of like underground, like all this stuff

652
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 5: we were going and was going on.

653
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like you mentioned, Katie Are where we shot

654
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: the pilot. It was this amazing location in downtown LA

655
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: and they were these these uh, cracked pieces of windows. Yes,

656
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: that which which now looking back at the watching the

657
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: show again, watching it back, I was thinking, it's so

658
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: symbolic of all the cast of characters, right, because we're

659
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: all cracked and broken and leaking. Like I remember, we

660
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: would have to put photos up on those pieces of

661
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: glass and sometimes it was a struggle because it was

662
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: raining outside and they had to figure out a way

663
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: to get the pictures to stick because they were all

664
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Speaker 1: these cracks. And then they created that on the stages. Oh,

665
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: it was so wonderful.

666
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 3: They replicated that so beautifully. That freaked me out how

667
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: well they did that.

668
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 4: Yes, oh my god, everybody. And you know what's cool.

669
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 5: Everyone really stuck with it like seven years. I don't

670
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 5: you know, we just really didn't have a lot of

671
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 5: turnover in terms of like head of wardrobe production. Like

672
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 5: everyone believed in it. And I don't know how you

673
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 5: built this team. I know you've talked about this like

674
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 5: a no asshole policy, but like it really felt like

675
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 5: the cast.

676
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 4: And the crew was just a machine. Like we were

677
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 4: so tight we still are.

678
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 5: I mean, it's really when I see someone from Scandal,

679
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 5: like a Mary Howard or Lime producing or a Tom

680
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 5: Verikar producing director or someone I'm emotional like I'm it

681
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 5: really felt like a family early on.

682
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 4: How did you do that?

683
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 6: One?

684
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: I think Betsy and I did our homework. At least

685
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: two people had to say you weren't an asshole for

686
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,479
Speaker 3: us to hire you. At least two outside people had

687
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: to vouch for, like your personality or who you were

688
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: as a person, because you know, people are always lovely

689
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: to me, but then I find out that they're horrible

690
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: to the pas or they're you know, I'm like that

691
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: Great's a bad set. And then we had Mary Howard,

692
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: who I've learned, if you want your set to run

693
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: the way you would run your set, find somebody who

694
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: shares the same mindset as you. And Mary was all

695
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: about creating like a family environment and a comfortable environment

696
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: for everyone to work in and making everybody feel valued.

697
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: And then we got Lin Paolo to do the costumes,

698
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: and she was already somebody that you know, I had

699
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 3: been really into and loving her work, and it was

700
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: great to get her too. So it was it was

701
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: just this nice building process. I still work with Lynn

702
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 3: to this day.

703
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 5: Everyone told me, because I was sort of the baby,

704
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 5: that like, you know, you really better enjoy this because this,

705
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 5: you know, the Tonys and the Jeffs, like this is

706
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 5: this is this is lightning in a bottle.

707
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: Like we've had.

708
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 5: Very long careers and we've moved from group to group

709
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 5: and cast to cast, and this is so magical.

710
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 4: We used to get all the press used to come

711
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 4: up to us and be.

712
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: Like, come on, so fung out like each other.

713
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, come on, this cannot be real. And I'm like,

714
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 5: it is real. I don't know what to tell you.

715
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 5: We're obsessed with each other. We go to events and

716
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 5: we only talk to each other. We don't even want

717
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 5: to talk to anybody else.

718
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: We also had so many amazing moments outside of shooting

719
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: the show, Like we went to so many events, and

720
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: one memory that's that stuck out. I think Katie and

721
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: I talked about this a few days ago, was we

722
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: went to this Glad Awards event where myself, Katie, and

723
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: Carrie were presenting an award to you, Shonda was a

724
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: Glad Award I forget. Yeah, And we had so much

725
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: fun and I wrote the thing that sticks out for

726
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: me is we were after the awards. We were on

727
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: the dance floor just dancing it up with you and

728
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: me and Katie and my boyfriend Mike was there, and

729
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: at one point roke, I don't think I ever told

730
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: you this car Katie, or maybe I did, But at

731
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: one point we're dancing Shaunda and this dude sort of

732
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: shimmys up and saddles up in front of me and

733
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: starts dancing, and he's getting a little flirty, and you

734
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: walked up to him and you said he got a man.

735
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 6: Do you remember that?

736
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: I did, And I remember at that moment thinking, oh

737
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: my god, this is such a down woman, like she's

738
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: got my back. I loved it so much. But also

739
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: cut to like later on that night, me and Mike

740
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: had a threesome with that guy. Really, yes, yes, do that,

741
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: but but me and Mike still talk about it to

742
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: this day. Mike adores you, and he was like, oh

743
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: my god, I fucking love Seanna that she did that

744
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: and stepped in and was like nope, he's got a minute.

745
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: Oh it was so amazing.

746
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 5: So we do the pilot and then we wait to

747
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 5: hear about if we're going to get a season one

748
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 5: and we get six episode order?

749
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 4: How did you feel about that?

750
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: I was pissed. I mean, I will just say that

751
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: I was pissed. I was like, did I not deliver

752
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: you know, one hundred episodes of Scandal for I mean,

753
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: Gray's Anatomy for you? Did I not give you one

754
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: hundred episodes of Private Practice? Like that? Fuck? And I

755
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: was mad. I was really mad. But I was also like,

756
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: it's gonna keep going. And so we had fun writing

757
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: it that season because we knew that we were like

758
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: sort of writing the hell out of the show for

759
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: our lives, like get it all in there just in case.

760
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 3: But I also loved it. So I was like, they're

761
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: gonna they're gonna pick it up.

762
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: Do you remember when the show was called? Was it

763
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: when the show was called Damage Control before it called

764
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: Do you remember that.

765
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 3: It wasn't the real name though that was the name

766
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 3: we put on spongs.

767
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know that.

768
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 5: Either I thought damage Control was the name that just

769
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 5: didn't get approved by the studio, or.

770
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 4: I thought no idea.

771
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: I learned that after you know Grays that after that

772
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 3: that we called that the entitleedchon Rhymes Project. We called

773
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: Para Practice entitle toon Rhymes Project, and I was like,

774
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: I need a name that doesn't have my name and

775
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: it you know what I mean, Like I wanted to

776
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 3: try to build it out. I think now all of

777
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: our shows have code names.

778
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 5: When we we had no idea that Damage Control was

779
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 5: just like a placeholder. And I think Quinn Perkins was

780
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 5: Quinn Riley and Harrison wasn't Harrison, right, it was Harrison.

781
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was once I got to know you guys

782
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 3: that I decided what your last names were.

783
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: I love it.

784
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: Yo.

785
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: Can we can we talk about like rewatching the show?

786
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: Me and Katie keep texting each other and we're like,

787
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, this show is so freaking good. And

788
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: but one person that sticks out for us is Columbus

789
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: Short because he is like freaking like magic on this

790
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: show and it's just such a thrill to watch him work, right, Katie,

791
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: He's like genius in front of the camera.

792
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: Like I absolutely loved writing for him and watching him

793
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 3: work because he was he was genius behind the camera,

794
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: I mean in front of the camera, the stuff he

795
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: would do and then just the little tiny things.

796
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 5: We're making a did it of like some sound with

797
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 5: his like he was so musical and rhythmic, and which

798
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 5: worked so well with Scandal because you wrote such musical

799
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 5: scripts where pace was such a had such a musicality

800
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 5: that he just leaned into.

801
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: That and he had such a talent for that. Yeah,

802
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: the two of you were great. I remember watching you too. Yeah,

803
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: the first time doing that scene. It was great.

804
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: I had never been so nervous in my life, but

805
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 4: you Yeah, he was very nervous.

806
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 5: He was putting on a front for me of being

807
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 5: like I'm cool, I'm cool, and I'm like, you are

808
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 5: shitting bricks, dude, Like this is Shonda Rhimes is sitting

809
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 5: over there and Betsy Beers is sitting over there, and

810
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 5: I think they have a stopwatch and we need to

811
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 5: be cool and we need.

812
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 4: To get this And it was absolutely terrifying.

813
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: Is it true that did you audition Columbus or is

814
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: he like the one actor that did not audition. I

815
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: thought I had heard something about that.

816
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 4: I feel like he was offered it, but maybe I'm wrong.

817
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: That's what I had heard too.

818
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: No, I feel like he came in and auditioned, or

819
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 3: at least came.

820
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: In and met Oh gotcha.

821
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I know that he came

822
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: in and then then we, like, like everybody else, I

823
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: just knew that he was right.

824
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we thought when we were Now that we're

825
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 5: embarking on the Scandal Rewatch podcast, Unpacking the Toolbox, I'm

826
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 5: so excited to hang out with our Scandal family is

827
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 5: really the point. And honestly, I'm gonna be real, real, honest.

828
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 5: Right now, I was like, Oh, the only thing I

829
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 5: really don't want to do is watch Scandal because I'm

830
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 5: scared that I'm have going to watch something and I

831
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 5: don't think I'm good or look at what I used

832
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 5: to look like, or look at it. You know, you're

833
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 5: just it's all wrapped up in actor bull crap and

834
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 5: like whatever, And I don't know if it's gonna be

835
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 5: fun for me to do this.

836
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 4: I could not be more wrong.

837
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: It's so much fun.

838
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have the experience of feeling like I'd never

839
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: actually seen the show that everybody talks about. Yes, you know,

840
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 3: because I was always writing in or one episode ahead

841
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: or editing one episode behind, like and it was I

842
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: was too worried about like making everything perfect, so I

843
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: couldn't really like I could watch the show when we

844
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: were all together and we were like, you know, doing

845
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: our live to Yeah, but I couldn't watch it just

846
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: like on my own, like it was too much. And

847
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: so when I sat down to watch again, which was

848
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: not that long and probably right a little bit before

849
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 3: you started watching it again, it was surreal because I

850
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 3: could actually like see and enjoy the stories that were told.

851
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: Of some of the stories, it was so funny. I

852
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: was like, that's what happened. Oh my god.

853
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 6: Right, it's the.

854
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 5: Same when they say like thorn Gate and like all

855
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 5: these things, I don't even think I understood what the

856
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 5: hell was going on.

857
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 4: Like it's really this has been such a gift.

858
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 5: This podcast is such a gift, and all of you

859
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 5: gladiators who are listening right now, like, give yourself the

860
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 5: gift of going back and watching the show, or if

861
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 5: you've never seen it, tell a friend to watch it.

862
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 5: Because the show holds up. It is better than all

863
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 5: the shows watch And I'm taking myself out of it.

864
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 5: I'm saying when I just sit and watch like Kerry

865
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 5: Washington and Tony Goldwyn do their thing, I mean, because

866
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 5: what's cool about the show. There's a white House half

867
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 5: and there's an Opa half, So I can you know,

868
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 5: I'm watching the show. I don't really remember the opay stuff.

869
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 5: But then there's a whole part of the show that

870
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 5: I have nothing to do with, and it's so freaking good.

871
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I can't believe what you made, Shonda,

872
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 5: I can't.

873
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: But also you have to remember that, like I had

874
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: this the writing the writing staff for that show was

875
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: like every best writer I'd ever worked with, which is

876
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 3: really what that was. How did you know that people

877
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: in Jonaline stay. They tend to stay because ay, they

878
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: know they're gonna have a job, but be like, they

879
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: tend to stay because they I hope that they liked

880
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: it there. But what happened was is we'd have like

881
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: we'd have like Seve who went to MIT and was

882
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: like telling us all the technical stuff we had. We

883
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: had a journalist Matt had been a journalist, you know,

884
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 3: on the press pool, and tell us all that stuff

885
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: and the things that that room came up with just

886
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: by themselves. I'd come, I'd leave, and I'd come back

887
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: to the room and I'd be like, holy crap, that's amazing.

888
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 3: Like they just had a gift for building that show.

889
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 5: It was brilliant, brilliant minds that were just again sort

890
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 5: of like the cast, they just really and most of

891
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 5: them stuck with us. I mean when we when we've

892
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 5: been doing research on the show. In the series, I mean,

893
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 5: I'm reading names of writers and directors who you've taken

894
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 5: from a million episodes of Scandal, but then I worked

895
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 5: with most of them on inventing Anna, Like you know

896
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 5: what I mean.

897
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 4: It's really.

898
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 1: Even guest stars, guest stars that came on Scandal. When

899
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: I would do researching Google people for for the podcast

900
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: and be like, oh my god, they did a bunch

901
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: of Gray's episodes, a bunch of Private Practice episodes, like yeah,

902
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: like you said, they keep you bring them back, it's

903
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: it and they want to keep coming back.

904
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 3: I like to work with people who I like to

905
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 3: work with, do you know what I mean, Like if

906
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: I've had a great experience with you, I mean I

907
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: work with Jeff Perry like any day of the week,

908
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: every day, are yeah, yeah.

909
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

910
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 4: Like, so would all of us rank God, mister Magoo.

911
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 3: I love that he had to play such a different

912
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 3: character than he played before and was like so amazing.

913
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, and him at the table reads he has

914
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 5: like eight thousand glasses, like he's near sighted and far sighted,

915
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on, and he has to

916
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 5: hold his cell phone a C and then.

917
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 4: The script has to be a certain way.

918
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 5: But the crazy thing is it all looks wild and

919
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 5: then you sit down for the table read and you're

920
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: getting a three hundred and fifty dollars ticket front row

921
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 5: seat to a Broadway show where his even his table

922
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 5: read acting.

923
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: Is epic, Yes, epic, yeah.

924
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 4: And just absolutely incredible.

925
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this. I remember the episode where he

926
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: gives that long monologue to Fits about what's going to

927
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: happen to him if he lets this control. You pick

928
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: out that pizel that your father gave you, and you're

929
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: gonna shoot yourself like that whole thing. And I was

930
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 3: I remember the table read being like I wrote that,

931
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 3: Holy shit. I never thought it was going to be that. Like,

932
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: never thought it was going to be that. I had

933
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: a lot of that with you guys, though. I had

934
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: a lot of experiences where I was like, they just

935
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: elevated the material in a crazy, amazing way.

936
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 5: How did you know that monologues were going to work

937
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 5: on the show. I mean, monologues are very rare. I

938
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 5: don't think I've ever seen TV shows with the amount

939
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 5: of you know, you would have a character talk, single

940
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 5: space page for two pag you know, spa.

941
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: That's why I worked right, But in a lot of

942
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: ways because you said everything so fast. It did make

943
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: it work because there was none of that like overacting

944
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 3: that people accidentally do when they have a monolog or

945
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 3: the long pauses that they think mean something like, you

946
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 3: guys just threw yourselves into it. We're so natural about

947
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: it totally.

948
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 4: Who came up with the camera shutter sound?

949
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 3: I don't even remember. I think mcgwigan came up with

950
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: it with the editor in the director's cut. I'm pretty

951
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: sure because it was already there. It was already there

952
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 3: when I got it. I'm pretty sure. You have to

953
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 3: ask Scott Collins, who does all our post production. He'll

954
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: remember exactly.

955
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 5: Oh, we have to have him on, we have to

956
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 5: have him on. But that is so iconic. Whenever I

957
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 5: heard like.

958
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: It's so sandal, yeah, I think scandal. Yeah.

959
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 4: Did you know the music was going to be like seventies? Yeah?

960
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 3: Like it was the music I was listening to while

961
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 3: writing the pilot. I listened to a lot of Stevie

962
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 3: Wonder and I listened to a lot of Arretha Franklin,

963
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 3: and I don't know, like Washington is such a it's

964
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: such a political city, but it's also like a very

965
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: black city, do you know what I mean? Like the

966
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: population of people of color is huge, And it felt

967
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: like there was like that was the soul of Washington

968
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 3: to me, Like it felt and it resonated me, and

969
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: I enjoyed using that mesh it's and.

970
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: I love how the music sort of plays against what's

971
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: happening on screen, you know what I mean, because hucklebhucking

972
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: Quinn will be torturing someone and you're hearing, you know,

973
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: like and be like yeah, like the Temptations or whatever.

974
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: So it works so so well.

975
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 5: No, we would always say when we would start to

976
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 5: like solve the case at OPA, I would always be

977
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 5: like at the cor or like very superstitious, you know,

978
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 5: just be like like this is what's going to.

979
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 4: Come on right now. And it was so iconic.

980
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: I think I used literally every last one of Stevie

981
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: Wonder songs in the shot, and almost without with the

982
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: exception of like her true like gospel shirt singing, every

983
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: last one of readA Franklin songs.

984
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 6: Are you kidding?

985
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I love that, didn't Stevie wand to write

986
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: something specifically for Scandal.

987
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 6: At the very end, he.

988
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: Wrote the song for the finale. And when you get

989
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 3: to talking about the finale, I will come back on

990
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: and tell the process, please wonder, which was inanely amazing.

991
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 4: I mean, just to do You're going to have to

992
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 4: come on and tell us about the ending.

993
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:25,479
Speaker 3: Of the show.

994
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 6: We'll be right back, guys.

995
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,479
Speaker 5: Things that were in the middle of the seven years

996
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 5: get a little mushy, and I'm so excited to be

997
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 5: watching these episodes again to remind myself of what was

998
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 5: going on. But what's stuck so much in my head

999
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 5: is the pilot. I can it's and then the finale.

1000
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 5: I just remember so much about the beginning and the

1001
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 5: end of this show.

1002
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 3: And there a few episodes I remember really vividly, just

1003
00:44:54,400 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 3: really vividly, honestly, not episode was so dear to me

1004
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 3: and I was so proud of it and the way

1005
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: it came out and the work everybody did. That was

1006
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 3: a big one.

1007
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was another one that you came to set

1008
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: and you sat on set for those monologs every character

1009
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: did to to Huck, and I remember all of us

1010
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: being like, well, I was like, I just got to

1011
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: sit on the ground and keep repeting every fifty two.

1012
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: Y'all got to remember, like, you know, ninety lines, f you.

1013
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 5: I got my monologue at six pm the night before

1014
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 5: and I was first up. I used to take hits

1015
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 5: like that all the time. But honestly, I was so

1016
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 5: I was like, I can do it.

1017
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 4: Like I can do it, you know, Like.

1018
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 5: They used to call me the closer because I was

1019
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 5: the youngest, and they would give me the like eleven

1020
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 5: pm scene on a Friday night and you'd be like,

1021
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 5: I didn't give that to Jeff, give it to me.

1022
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 4: I can do it. I can do it.

1023
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: But Seawanda, what were your other episodes that you that

1024
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: sort of stick out? They remembered.

1025
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: The Trail two Wait Happy Birthday, Mister President, where we

1026
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 3: shot the president.

1027
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

1028
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 3: That was one of my most favorite things that we did,

1029
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: just because of what I got to do with the

1030
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: information of what happens when a president is shot, and

1031
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 3: because of just the pain it played out for everybody,

1032
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: which was so great, and what happened to Hawk and

1033
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: all that stuff. White Hats Back On, which was the

1034
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: finale of season two where at the end she says dad, dad. Yeah,

1035
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: remember that Tepe. That public reading we did during while

1036
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: the finale was airing, we did, you guys did a

1037
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: reading like in front of an audience was amazing.

1038
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 5: Every single person that I've talked to that was in

1039
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 5: the audience that night, who was like friends or family

1040
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 5: or Adam, my husband, they remember it as one of

1041
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 5: the most special and out of body like theater experiences

1042
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 5: they've ever had. When we were reading the script, Joe Morton,

1043
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 5: Olivia Pope says dad to pop U Pope and then I.

1044
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: Came out of their seats.

1045
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 6: I remember that.

1046
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: I remember de Wie Allen being like, oh, Debbie Allen's up.

1047
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 5: The audience was screaming, pointing at us. We were pointing

1048
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 5: at them. Everybody was screaming. I lost my voice for

1049
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 5: like a month. It was so great, Yeah, and so special.

1050
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 5: I also remember the abortion episode.

1051
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: Oh that's on my list, that's on my list. That's

1052
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 3: a Christmas episode. Maybe it's cold outside.

1053
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 4: So I remember, of course, yeah, that was my favorite.

1054
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 3: It was, but also because of what like it was

1055
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 3: our Christmas episode and we got to watch Mellie filibuster

1056
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: and like it just felt like we were women in

1057
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 3: so many different ways. It was great. And because you know,

1058
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 3: I feel like I write a show where I'm deconstructing

1059
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 3: what love is, like I'm trying to rip the lid

1060
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 3: off the fairy tale. And what's funny is is that

1061
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 3: everybody buys the fairy tale when I tell it every time,

1062
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: and then when I rip the lid off and they're like,

1063
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 3: what do you mean he isn't happy? Like did you

1064
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: not see the way he treats her like this stuff?

1065
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: And also that's real life, right, Like real life isn't

1066
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: tied up in a pretty bow. Yeah.

1067
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: No, they're not fairy tales. It's just not fairy tales.

1068
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 3: Randy read super freaking Julia. Do you remember that one

1069
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: that was That was when Olivia comes back and you have,

1070
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: first of all, you have the Harrison's funeral. Remember, Yeah,

1071
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 3: Hawet's working as like an Apple genius or something.

1072
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 6: That's right. That's right, Katie.

1073
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 3: Your character was the only one trying to like pull

1074
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: everybody together.

1075
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: Yes, I remember that ship That was fun.

1076
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 3: You would become like a mini Olivia, Pope, you become

1077
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: like a Minia Livy. I loved that episode. That made

1078
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: me really happen.

1079
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 5: I can't wait to get to all these episodes. I

1080
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 5: can't even stand it.

1081
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 3: A lawn chair, run a launch chair.

1082
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: And run when she gets kidnapped.

1083
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 3: That was amazing, and that was a lawn Share episode.

1084
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 4: The guest stars and the stories.

1085
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 5: That you tell us a little bit about how you

1086
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 5: always felt, and we always felt like you, you and

1087
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 5: the writers room more ahead of the news cycle, like

1088
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 5: why would you write something?

1089
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: And then some shit would happen and we would be

1090
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 4: like wait what Yeah.

1091
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 3: Well, part of that is that, like the people in

1092
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: my room were crazy intelligent, and so they would they

1093
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: would like extrapolate something to its extreme degree and be like,

1094
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: what if there was this Thornngate thing that was spying

1095
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 3: and everybody through their computers and their phone. Wow, And

1096
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: we were like, that can never happen, And so it

1097
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: was like, technically it can, and tell us all why

1098
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: I could, and then we'd do it, and then literally

1099
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 3: we'd find out that that's something that actually happened, like

1100
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: unveiled that they had done something like that. There were

1101
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: so many times that happened, with so many different stories,

1102
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 3: and it was so weird to us because we felt

1103
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 3: like we were making up the craziest stuff we could

1104
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: think of, and then it was just yeah, yeah, it

1105
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 3: got bad when we had we were making up like

1106
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: crazy presidential candidates and then that stuff happened.

1107
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hollis Doyle, oh my god.

1108
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 6: It was great.

1109
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 5: You know, we we've heard some of your most memorable

1110
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 5: episodes of the series. But she and I have some

1111
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 5: questions that came up from watching the pilot. First of all,

1112
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 5: where does gladiator in a suit come from?

1113
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: I made that up. I made that up. I just

1114
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: loved the way it sounded. It's one day in my head,

1115
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 3: I was like gladiators, Like, it just sounded good to me.

1116
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: What I loved was how we got to like put

1117
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 3: that information down and that we told the story through

1118
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 3: the eyes of Quinn. What was important about that was

1119
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 3: nobody who was watching the show knew anything about this world,

1120
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. They didn't know what a

1121
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 3: fixer ud, they didn't know how any of it worked,

1122
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: and so we had a new person there to learn

1123
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: everything for us, which I thought was really important.

1124
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 5: Did Judy Smith say things I trust my gut or

1125
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 5: is this stuff you also made up?

1126
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 3: Judy Smith says, trust your gut. Your gut will tell

1127
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 3: you everything you need to know. That was one of

1128
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 3: the first things I wrote down in my notes from

1129
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: my meeting with her. That's the thing she always said.

1130
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: She said that, and she said stand in your truth.

1131
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: Those are the two that I always held onto. Yeah.

1132
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: Never like don't lie. It's the same thing, don't lie, never.

1133
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: Tell a lie.

1134
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah wow. And then I loved like and it's I

1135
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 3: don't know if it was aired in the broadcast show

1136
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: because it was too long, but I made them put

1137
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 3: it in for the DVD. In any subsequent errings, Huck

1138
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 3: basically says to her, you know, we're all damaged, you know,

1139
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 3: like everybody here is damage to like, get used to it.

1140
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I say that.

1141
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. That was one of my favorite scenes. And when

1142
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: I loved about it was it just told you who

1143
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: everyone was like. And when I wrote that.

1144
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: Scene, what I was just gonna say. He says, we're

1145
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 1: all stray dogs.

1146
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 3: That's right.

1147
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god.

1148
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 3: That's what I loved about that was when I wrote it,

1149
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking as much about that, But the minute

1150
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: I wrote that line, I was like, Oh, what are

1151
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: what's everybody's problem? Like, how did they come to.

1152
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 4: A living Everyone's from the Misfits. Everyone's from the Misfit Toys.

1153
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: And boy did you deliver? Did you give it to us?

1154
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that.

1155
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 3: Whole speech that Olivia gives to Amanda Tanner. You think

1156
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 3: she's this lovely person and then she just decimates her

1157
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: and you see what her job really is.

1158
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, she's the devil. It's horrible.

1159
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 3: She's the one who she needs to make things happen.

1160
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: She's the person who handles stuff, so she has to

1161
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: handle it whatever way works. And I just remember like

1162
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: the devastation on Quinn's face and the way it was

1163
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: shot so well done.

1164
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had no idea that scene was like that.

1165
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 5: I remember being like, oh, you know, my your line,

1166
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 5: your line, your line, my line. I like didn't work

1167
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 5: that hard on that scene because I don't have any lines, right,

1168
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 5: which is the worst doctor ever.

1169
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 3: I understand that.

1170
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 5: I remember standing back there and Liza, you know, she's

1171
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 5: so good at being emotional, and she's.

1172
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 4: Working on her amazing so upset.

1173
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 5: And you know, Carrie has this this epic monologue that

1174
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 5: you were talking about about, Oh is this a nice dog?

1175
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 5: And then she goes through like, oh that stint where

1176
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 5: your mom was in the nuthouse and and it would

1177
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 5: be easier and better for you if you just got

1178
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 5: the hell out of here type of thing. And then

1179
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 5: I remember Paul coming up to me and being like,

1180
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 5: this is obviously my acting wasn't that great, but he

1181
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 5: came up to me and said, like, this.

1182
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 4: Is shut up, I said. He basically was like.

1183
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 5: We are understanding the stakes of this scene and how

1184
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 5: fucked up this is through you and your eyes.

1185
00:52:58,719 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh.

1186
00:52:59,280 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: Crap, I do.

1187
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 4: I have to feel?

1188
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 5: And then Olivia does the slow mo in the white

1189
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 5: jacket from Lynn Pallow and gets on the phone and

1190
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 5: she just says it's handled, and then it goes to

1191
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 5: Quinn's face and she just is like, I can't even

1192
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 5: believe I'm working for this woman. She's this is this

1193
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 5: is all like this. She's kind of the devil but

1194
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 5: also the hero, which is how.

1195
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 3: What effected it was an exterior scene and that everybody, everybody,

1196
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: Bob Woodward, everybody was like, when are you in DC

1197
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 3: shooting the show? And I was like, We're never in

1198
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 3: DC shooting the show.

1199
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: That's all fake, And how amazing did that department do you?

1200
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 3: Like?

1201
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: People would come up to us all the time and

1202
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: be like, Yo, when are you guys gonna be in

1203
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: DC again?

1204
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 6: You're why are you here? Don't you guys shoot the

1205
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 6: show in DC?

1206
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 1: And we'd always be like, no, it's all green screen

1207
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: and that that team that did that, that work was

1208
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: just stellar.

1209
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, people really Washingtonians really believe we're shooting

1210
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: in DC. And I remember, I mean, my favorite thing

1211
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: that we got to do was, Hey, it's awesome to

1212
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 3: have a job where you get to write interior white

1213
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: House and then they build you a white House that

1214
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 3: I literally played in the Oval Office for like a

1215
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 3: billion years. But even better was like writing like the

1216
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 3: interior resident in the White House residence, and then like

1217
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 3: the balcony, and we got to go to the White

1218
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: House and film what it actually looked like from the

1219
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 3: balcony and usually just rebuild it had never been done before,

1220
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: which was so cool.

1221
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 6: Wow, wow, God.

1222
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 5: We didn't shoot the show in DC because when we

1223
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 5: did go there it was so cold. We would complain

1224
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 5: about being in wool codes and it being so hot.

1225
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 5: But honestly, I prefer that to the one episode we

1226
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 5: did in DC where I was holding gear Moo's ears

1227
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 5: from become from Huck's ears from turning into icicle turning.

1228
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1229
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 5: Also, we could have never shot the show there Scandal,

1230
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 5: the cast of Scandal I can hide, but it was

1231
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 5: like you were a beatle when we got when the

1232
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 5: cast of got dropped into d C, or when Shonda

1233
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 5: Rhimes gets dropped into d C and you're on a

1234
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 5: political show.

1235
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: It was crazy watching the reactions there. That was amazing.

1236
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: One of the best things for me was like I

1237
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 3: was all about a shooting in La everything because I

1238
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: had kids, People had kids, people, and it was the

1239
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 3: show went on, people had more and more kids, and

1240
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 3: I just felt like people's lifestyles should not be like

1241
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 3: standing in the middle of Washington, d C. In the

1242
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 3: middle of the night hoping you can get home at

1243
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 3: some point.

1244
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: And it wasn't only like fans on the street or

1245
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: fans that watch the show was it was like people

1246
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: in DC, like when we went and met like Obama

1247
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 1: and the first Lady Michelle Obama, like hearing her tell

1248
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: me and tell all of us, Oh my god, I

1249
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: was just watching an episode as they would do in

1250
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: my hair and makeup. I was like, what, like the

1251
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: people that were in that world were watching our show.

1252
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 3: It was so surreal to me, so surreal that like

1253
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 3: actual Washingtonian people. I mean I remember George Bush Junior

1254
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 3: calling up Jadie Smith and saying, you know, we didn't

1255
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 3: really have an affair, right, and like them laughing about it. Yeah,

1256
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 3: I was. My mind was blown. My mind was blown.

1257
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 6: I didn't know that.

1258
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1259
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 5: I think it was such a gift that we sort

1260
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 5: of also that scandal.

1261
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 4: It was sort of a.

1262
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 5: Slow burn that people caught onto the show. I mean,

1263
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 5: it really wasn't.

1264
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 3: Into It was very helpful.

1265
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 5: I think we got to a place where we weren't

1266
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 5: this like overnight thing, so we had sort of but

1267
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 5: we were obsessed with the show and doing a good

1268
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 5: job and doing the best we could, and we got

1269
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 5: to really make it in this sort of bubble where

1270
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,479
Speaker 5: people weren't looking. And then by the time everyone started looking.

1271
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 5: I can remember being on red Carpet and they would say, like,

1272
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 5: what does it feel like to be on a hit show? Yeah,

1273
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 5: I'd be like, wait are we we are?

1274
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 4: Like I just was so like, what right?

1275
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: Because it was such a slow burn. It was such

1276
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 3: a slow burn.

1277
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: But also, yeah, I feel like Katie, like none of

1278
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: us ever got cocky about it like no one ever

1279
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 1: got cocky. Every season we'd be like, oh my god,

1280
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: I hope we get picked up. It was never like, ah,

1281
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: we're we're fucking in like this is whatever. We're a hit,

1282
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: fuck this ship, We're the best.

1283
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 6: It was.

1284
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: We wanted to just be there.

1285
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 6: I love it.

1286
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 5: How do you think, like everyone says the show why

1287
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 5: it was so magical a lot, is that because our

1288
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 5: lead showrunner, boss Shonda Rhimes, and our lead actor Kerry

1289
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 5: Washington are number one, the two of you. You know,

1290
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 5: ship rolls downhill and that just never happened on our show.

1291
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 5: How did you and Carrie make a world where that

1292
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 5: was the case for so long? Because everyone would say

1293
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 5: in the beginning, wait till season four, you're all going

1294
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 5: to funcate each other.

1295
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 3: Like, do you remember on the pilot the first day

1296
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 3: we ever shot the show. On the pilot, we were

1297
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: on the graves and anatomy set shoot in the hospital scenes,

1298
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 3: and you said, or maybe it wasn't the pilot, maybe

1299
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 3: it was episode two, No, I think it was, Yeah,

1300
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: it pilot. It was the pilot. Yeah, you say, I'm

1301
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 3: never ever going to be like going to not be grateful,

1302
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 3: And I remember pulling out my phone and being like,

1303
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 3: can you say that again into my camera. I was

1304
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 3: so sure that like in four years amaze, she would

1305
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 3: be like complaining about her trailer or something.

1306
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 4: We none of us were like that, none of us.

1307
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: I really, but yeah say it.

1308
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: So I was just gonna say. Cary would do stuff

1309
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: like when we were done shooting a scene, she would

1310
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: stop everyone and ask for silence and thank all the background,

1311
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: thank our crew. Like the stuff that Carrie would do

1312
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: just made the sets so special and so inviting and

1313
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: so warm and kind, and that's so rare, you know.

1314
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 3: I think in my opinion, I feel like, and I

1315
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: don't remember that Carrie actually said this to me or not,

1316
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 3: but this is what I assumed that she had been

1317
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: on a lot of sets and seen all kinds of

1318
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 3: behavior and knew when when it was good and when

1319
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 3: it was bad, Like knew the feeling because if you're

1320
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 3: like just starting out, you know what that feels like

1321
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 3: when some number one is horrible and sort of had

1322
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 3: vowed to never be bad number one. And also I

1323
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 3: think she felt the entire weight of the pressure of

1324
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 3: being like the first black lead actress and a drama

1325
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 3: and not wanting that to be like and she.

1326
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: Was a bitch.

1327
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Oh I've never thought about that.

1328
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: They would have ran with that.

1329
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: And she was just a lovely person to begin with.

1330
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 3: But she really worked hard to remain humble and to

1331
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 3: keep everybody around her like feeling good about what they

1332
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 3: were doing as well, to make sure it felt like

1333
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 3: a group effort.

1334
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 5: The fact that she never complained about those fucking shoes.

1335
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 5: I would have lost my mind, like for seven years

1336
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 5: cramming her little foot into six inch high heels.

1337
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 4: I but Shanda, you never you are always the same.

1338
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 5: You and Betsy would call these meeting, we would do

1339
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 5: table reads and then you would say, okay, I'd like

1340
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 5: all the actors to stay after for ten minutes, to

1341
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 5: which we would all be like.

1342
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 4: Oh my god, oh my god, we're in trouble. Please

1343
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 4: don't let us be in trouble.

1344
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 5: But we would sit there and you would always say

1345
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 5: it would be like, you know, if anything comes up,

1346
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 5: or you want to talk about anything, or we should

1347
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 5: be your first call. Like I never had somebody in

1348
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 5: the middle of the night like you need help, someone

1349
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 5: gets an exit, somebody to like, calm us, let us

1350
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 5: help you. We are all in this together. And it

1351
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 5: was just seemed like a very supportive I don't know,

1352
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 5: I learned so much. I think you've sent us all

1353
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 5: out into our other jobs to really expect nothing less

1354
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 5: than the behavior and the vibe that we created for

1355
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 5: ourselves on that show.

1356
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 3: I feel really lucky because I had the experience of

1357
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 3: never working on TV before writing a show and having

1358
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 3: it be like a crazy out of the box hit

1359
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 3: where all of these actors became famous overnight and chase

1360
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 3: by paparazzi and stuff, and that was great, and I

1361
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 3: didn't know how to handle any of that, you know

1362
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 3: what I mean. Like, I learned that through the process

1363
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 3: of working there every day, and it was great to

1364
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 3: be able to bring that knowledge to the table, you know,

1365
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 3: and say this is what it is. And that was

1366
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: so much. It just made it so much better. I

1367
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 3: want to also credit Mary Howard, because really the line

1368
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 3: producer really does have everything to do with the feel

1369
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 3: and the atmosphere on a set, and I think that

1370
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 3: she was incredibly valuable in that process.

1371
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 5: Yes, and you were also like, this show is so

1372
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 5: important and your health is so important. But you all

1373
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 5: and Mary Howard were also like, and your families are

1374
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 5: super important. Like it was always like, you know, she

1375
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 5: was working, if someone was going through anything at home,

1376
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 5: or you know, people had things going on. She was

1377
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 5: very much She's a very family oriented. I think everybody

1378
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:29,439
Speaker 5: was on the show.

1379
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 3: I think that was the thing. Like she was family oriented,

1380
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 3: we were family oriented. It felts normal, it really did.

1381
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 5: Is there anything in closing? Can you please come back

1382
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 5: on the Scandal Rewatch podcast?

1383
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 3: Yes, you guys want me to like, I love this,

1384
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 3: I love that you're doing it.

1385
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm I love it awesome.

1386
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 5: Well, I think it's going to give I think that

1387
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 5: our gladiators who have been just laying dormant for years,

1388
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 5: looking for a place to go and geek out and

1389
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 5: wear their gladiator shirts and drink out of their gladiator

1390
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 5: and eat their popcorn and wine and rewatch the shows

1391
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 5: and tell people who haven't seen it to sit their

1392
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 5: asses down and go watch it. And it's been such

1393
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 5: a gift to Gama and I to go back and

1394
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 5: watch this.

1395
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 3: Show beyond Yeah, I think for I think for like gladiators,

1396
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 3: I always just want to say, like gladiators, like this

1397
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 3: is where you're going to get the inside scoop, you know,

1398
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 3: like stuff that was that we've never talked about, Yeah.

1399
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 5: Don't you want to know that Germo Diaz had a

1400
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 5: threesome in the night that we presented, Shonda Rhymes with

1401
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 5: her glad aboard.

1402
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 3: That's amazing.

1403
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 5: You're welcome everyone things we didn't know.

1404
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: So since Twitter was such a massive thing for Scandal, Shonda,

1405
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: we're we're going to finish this episode and do this

1406
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: in many episodes by reading some of the best tweets

1407
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: surrounding the Scandal moment.

1408
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 5: Tweetweetweet, twetweeted at the time, tweeters the time, Yeah, tweets

1409
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 5: at the time.

1410
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: On April fourth and twenty twelve, actually, Shonda Rhymes tweeted,

1411
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: this is the best ad for Scandal ever. Thank you

1412
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: for the Scandal cake. And it's a picture of a

1413
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: cake and they actually drew Carrie Washington on the cake

1414
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: and it says, my gut tells me everything I need

1415
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: to know. Watch Scandal Thursday's ten at ten. Who made

1416
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: that cake, Seanda, do you remember?

1417
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 3: I have no idea? It literally just appeared in our offices. Again,

1418
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 3: shut up, but we're so excited by it.

1419
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 6: And then you tweeted again, Shonda.

1420
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: A few minutes later or later that day, the Gray's

1421
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: anatomy Scandal riders couldn't take it. They had to eat

1422
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: the Scandal cake and it's a picture of half of

1423
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: the cake gone.

1424
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, let's just preserve it as this

1425
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 3: beautiful thing.

1426
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 5: And then he just had to eat it and it

1427
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:43,439
Speaker 5: looked delicious.

1428
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 3: It was quite good. I think everybody thought it was

1429
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 3: quite good. That's hilarious.

1430
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 5: Then you also tweeted on April third, twenty twelve, Shonda

1431
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 5: Rhymes tweeted, meet at Judy Smith, the woman behind at

1432
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 5: scandalabc's Olivia Pope, and get your copy of her new

1433
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 5: book Good Self, Bad Self at Amazon.

1434
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 6: Wow.

1435
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 4: Oh, we already had this shirt.

1436
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 5: Marco who is a who is a key player at

1437
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 5: shandalin Mark Marco Esquivel already posted a picture of gladiator

1438
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 5: and sweatshirts, and it was a sweatshirt picture that says,

1439
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 5: do you want to be a gladiator in a suit?

1440
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 4: We were all having marched.

1441
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 3: Yes, we were having march from the beginning, which is crazy.

1442
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: And can you talk about how how they named us

1443
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: the our fans became our gladiators, right Like someone on

1444
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: Twitter just ran with that and then all of a sudden,

1445
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: it was like the gladiators and that's that's that's so.

1446
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: That was such a memorable moment, right, and that that

1447
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: has stuck around too, because people will still come up

1448
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: to me on the street now and be like, yeah, yo,

1449
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm a gladiator, I'm a gladiator.

1450
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I get that all the time.

1451
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 3: What I loved about that, and I thought was so

1452
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 3: at the time, especially Twitter, was about the fans coming

1453
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 3: together and deciding things like now. I think they put

1454
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 3: out like for other shows, they put out like tested hashtag,

1455
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 3: which I didn't understand, like we don't on the side

1456
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 3: of the hashtags. The fans. Yeah, they came up with

1457
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 3: Huckleberry Quinn. They came up with it's not our job, No,

1458
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 3: it's their community.

1459
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 4: I forget.

1460
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 5: Was it your idea or Carrie's idea for all of

1461
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 5: us to be on Twitter.

1462
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 3: I think that Carrie, if I remember correctly, I think

1463
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 3: Carrie came to me and said it would be really

1464
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 3: cool if we all got on Twitter and tweeted the shows.

1465
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 3: And then I remember then she just said it like

1466
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 3: that and like backed away, and then I remember sitting

1467
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 3: at a table and being like, you're all gonna get

1468
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 3: on Twitter.

1469
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 6: We're going to help you do something and we did.

1470
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: We were like, we got to get on Twitter.

1471
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 3: But once again, as usual, Carrie was right.

1472
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 4: It was right, She was right, She was right.

1473
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: Do you remember do you remember us following I started

1474
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: following everybody on Twitter, Katie, like even like fans. I

1475
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: was like follow and but now you know you can't

1476
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: do that. But but I remember fans.

1477
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,919
Speaker 4: We had no idea what we were doing. We sent

1478
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 4: Jeff Perry out onto Twitter and he did great, did

1479
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 4: great him like sitting next to Jeff being like this

1480
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 4: is how you do it? Or Joe Morton, I.

1481
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 5: Mean people, yes, and they came up with their own

1482
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 5: sort of Twitter personalities, like Joe Morton tweeted sort of

1483
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 5: like pop u Pope, these like y like cryptic, crypto

1484
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 5: big posts.

1485
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 3: My favorite Twitter thing that ever happened wasn't I don't.

1486
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 3: I don't know that anybody else really knows this. But

1487
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 3: Scott Foley had been playing Jake, this bad guy for

1488
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 3: a while and the audience hated him and he didn't

1489
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 3: complain about it or anything, but like the tweets were

1490
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 3: clear the audience just wanted him dead. And so I

1491
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 3: wrote this episode where he gets thrown into that the

1492
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 3: b six thirteen the whole or whatever, and I know,

1493
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 3: and then Olivia comes in because it's like the president

1494
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 3: thinks that he killed his son. And then Olivia comes

1495
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 3: in and he gives the speech that like he says,

1496
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 3: it's okay if you don't choose me, and then he

1497
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 3: gives her the number of the account that he wants

1498
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 3: her to get the money to his mom and all

1499
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 3: the stuff. And I literally, I'm Scott sit with me

1500
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 3: and like when the scene came on, I was like,

1501
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 3: watch your Twitter feed, just watch it. Like I was like,

1502
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 3: it's going to go from I hate this dude to

1503
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 3: oh my god, Jake is amazing. And it literally just

1504
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 3: like that. It took three minutes. Wow, Twitter to entirely

1505
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 3: change its tune. And I was like, Twitter is a powerful,

1506
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 3: powerful force.

1507
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 4: It was past tense.

1508
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 5: If your character was against Olivia Pope, you were getting

1509
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 5: Twitter death threats, or if your character was coming at

1510
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 5: all in the middle of fits and Olivia, you forget it.

1511
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was so crazy.

1512
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 4: It was just it was a movement. It was just

1513
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 4: a thing.

1514
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: And then people like Oprah Winfrey and like Bette Middlers

1515
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: and Rihanna started tweeting also about the show Mariah Carey,

1516
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: and we were like, what is happening.

1517
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 3: Prince once put on a suit and send a picture

1518
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 3: of himself that said Gladiator in a suit.

1519
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 6: You know that didn't.

1520
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna send it to you because I have a

1521
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 3: screen because I went, you know, Prince was everything. He

1522
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 3: also sent me a list of songs that would be

1523
01:07:58,640 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 3: okay for me to use on the show.

1524
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 6: Did you ever use one?

1525
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 3: Yes? When well, it's so sad because when Prince died,

1526
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 3: I did an episode that was all my whole the

1527
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 3: whole night of television that Thursday night was all Princess.

1528
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is the loveliest thing. I mean when that's

1529
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 5: how we also started to feel like, oh, the show's

1530
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 5: happening when someone would come into work and be like

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Speaker 5: did you see Like Rihanna tweeted that she's watching the show.

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Speaker 5: I can remember being it carries l women in Hollywood

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Speaker 5: dinner and I was sitting next to hing Mon and

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Speaker 5: she was like, my husband and I sit and we

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Speaker 5: watch the show. I'm like, are you talking about David Bowie?

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Speaker 4: David Bowie is sitting and watching Scandal. I mean, this

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Speaker 4: is crazy.

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Speaker 3: I freaked out when when missus Obama and the President

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01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 3: were like, like, we have some we have some things

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Speaker 3: to tell you about the show about the White House

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Speaker 3: because MS Mom was like, you're not getting it right.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get it right.

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Speaker 4: And it was great.

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01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 5: She was like, this is what the private residence looked like,

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01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 5: this is where the stairs are like, this is like,

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01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 5: this is how the White Houses set up.

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01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 3: Show me how we were making the door using the

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Speaker 3: doors in correctly, like doing the window panes on the

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Speaker 3: doors incorrectly, and I came back to change them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god. That is amazing.

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01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 5: My god, this show man, the things we learned on it,

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01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 5: the people it brought together. Shanda, thank you for being

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01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 5: the first guest on the Scandal Rewatch podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 3: I will show up for you anytime. You know. I

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01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 3: love you, guys, Scandal.

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Speaker 1: Fan, So yeah, Yandal, that's right.

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01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 4: For life and we love you.

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01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 5: Thank you for writing this show that turns out when

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Speaker 5: you watch it all over again.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's still great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. Of course it's our pleasure.

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Speaker 2: You kidding.

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01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm just so so great.

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Speaker 5: We're so filled up that I need to keep going

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Speaker 5: with my gladiator.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm gonna pour some whiskey in my in my

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Speaker 1: coke zero.

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Speaker 4: Now it's only ten to fifteen. Is that too early

1571
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 4: to have a shoat to move to.

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Speaker 1: No, it's also a Thursday.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what that means, but it's here's another

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Speaker 4: see it's tg T.

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01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 5: I'll have you all this that The first episode Get

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Speaker 5: to Rewatch Podcasts Unpacking the Toolbox with guests Shanda Rhimes,

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01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 5: was recorded on a fucking Thursday.

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Speaker 1: And Katie has a shirt that says hashtag tg I

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Speaker 1: T remember this, Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: And we're drinking out of our gladiator cups and I

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Speaker 5: cannot remember for the life of me.

1582
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Speaker 4: What was the name of the made up wine on Scandal?

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01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 6: Oh?

1584
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know. I knew Betsy Beers would know this.

1585
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 5: See this whole This whole podcast is not about me

1586
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 5: texting people, but it is because I want to find

1587
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 5: out the correct things I wrote. Sorry about you so

1588
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 5: early doing Scandal podcast. What was the fake, made up

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01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 5: name of the wine again? Because I'm gonna pretend to

1590
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 5: drink it on the podcast. It was shot to move

1591
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 5: to Pop and it was called Chateau do Belet Wow,

1592
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 5: which is complete bullshit and not made up.

1593
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Speaker 1: I love that Betsy remembered that Betsy knew that.

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01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 5: Well because she was the person who they went She's

1595
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 5: a she knows a lot about fancy wine, and I

1596
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 5: think the story goes is like the writer's room reached

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01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 5: out to her and was like, what would be a

1598
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 5: really fancy, insanely priced bottle of wine that Olivia Pope

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Speaker 5: will drinking?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, mine this morning is cranberry juice that's old as fuck,

1602
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,759
Speaker 5: and I found in the back of my and Carrie

1603
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 5: never drank cranberry juice onset.

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01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 4: She drank grape juice, really right.

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01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,839
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever had the less sugar.

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01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think her fake wine was grape juice, which

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01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 5: I think she like loved.

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01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 4: I remember Carrie being like this crape juice is so delicious.

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01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 3: I love this.

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01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 4: But Yo, the.

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Speaker 5: Scandal Rewatch podcast, you guys better to tell your friends

1612
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1613
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Speaker 5: person you could want who starred on Scandal or start

1614
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Speaker 5: behind the scenes on Scandal, some secret guests coming up

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Speaker 5: that you are not going to want to miss.

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Speaker 1: You're going to get all the scoop, all the scoop

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Speaker 1: from behind the scenes at parties.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and Gary and I are so grateful to have

1619
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Speaker 5: this show and it's been such a gift and we're

1620
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Speaker 5: so excited to be on this ride with you guys,

1621
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Speaker 5: and we love you.

1622
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: And we want you guys to get hooked on rewatching

1623
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 1: the show like we are now.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, everyone, tune in next week to episode

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Speaker 5: one oh two of Scandal. Dirty little secrets.

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Speaker 1: We all got them, We all got them. Better tell

1627
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Speaker 1: somebody bye. Thank you guys for joining us on Unpacking

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Speaker 1: the Toolbox. If you enjoyed the show, please subscribe, share

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Speaker 1: with your friends, rate, or leave us a review.

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Speaker 5: Scandal is executive produced by Sandy Bailey, Alex Alcea, Lauren Homan,

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01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 5: Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. Our producer and editor is

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01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 5: Vince de Johnny, with music by Chad Fisher.

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Speaker 1: Scandal is a production of ABC Signature, and you can

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01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 1: follow along by rewatching Scandal on Hulu.

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