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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation, It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. While Shooler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: on a victory Monday, as the Steelers get back in

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Speaker 2: the win column desperately needed with a twenty seven to

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Speaker 2: twenty two victory over the Baltimore Ravens that Matt had

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Speaker 2: plenty of implications obviously, Yeah, big time in terms of

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Speaker 2: the AFC North and the playoff status. In terms of again,

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Speaker 2: I think, just a team that needed a win at

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Speaker 2: that time to get feeling good again. And of course,

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Speaker 2: as we discussed last week, it doesn't matter if these

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Speaker 2: teams are twelve and oh or oh to twelve. Beating

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Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens, your chief rival in their building especially,

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Speaker 2: always always means something. And so here we go. We

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Speaker 2: continue to do that week to week thing. So week,

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Speaker 2: but this week much better and moving in the right

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Speaker 2: direction certainly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And what if it wasn't, I mean, what if

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Speaker 3: this game went like the Bills game? Did you know?

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Speaker 3: And Lamar looks like Lamar and they're running all over

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Speaker 3: you and you get out of there with the loss,

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Speaker 3: and you're behind the eight ball statistically, and you know, like, man,

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Speaker 3: where's this team at much needed and as much as anything.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you go to Baltimore in December win against

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Speaker 3: that franchise. I mean, I'm not even talking about that version,

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Speaker 3: this version of the team. I mean that franchise versus

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Speaker 3: this franchise in a meaningful game this late in the year,

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Speaker 3: let alone to take you know, the division lead. Sign

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Speaker 3: me up, man, I mean, that's great stuff. I think

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Speaker 3: what I've been saying on some other shows is it's

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Speaker 3: a really good step in the right direction. Is everything solved?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Are they Super Bowl champions or anything like that. No,

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Speaker 3: but boy, this is a really good step in the

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Speaker 3: right direction.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a great way to frame it. I'm

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Speaker 2: with you on that. And I think that there was

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Speaker 2: some of the things we've been asking for. On offense,

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Speaker 2: we finally started to see, like some deep shots and

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Speaker 2: real stretching of the field there by the Steelers offense

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Speaker 2: early late often the defense. Hey, Baltimore made a couple

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Speaker 2: of plays in the run game, but for the most part,

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Speaker 2: I thought a very stout defensive performance from the Steelers

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Speaker 2: you limited Derrick Henry. Yeah, you gave up one huge

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Speaker 2: explosive play in the run game to Mitchell at a

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Speaker 2: kind of an inopportune time to do it, but it

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Speaker 2: didn't end up costing you. And I think just overall,

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Speaker 2: you'll take that from a Steelers defense that really struggled

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Speaker 2: against this unit the last two times out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And I do the pre pregame show with Tom

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Speaker 3: Yep and we kind of ended it talking about, well,

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Speaker 3: I doubt this will be a super designed run lamar

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Speaker 3: or you know, uh, option football because of his somewhat

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Speaker 3: compromise stage. Sure, so you're gonna key on Henry. What's

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Speaker 3: a number you can live with? Like I said, this

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Speaker 3: was Sunday morning, the game hadn't been played yet. What's

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Speaker 3: a number you can live with? If Henry gets twenty

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Speaker 3: to twenty five carries, which is exactly where you land,

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Speaker 3: I think it like twenty four or something like that.

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Speaker 3: You know he's gonna touch the ball a lot, twenty five,

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Speaker 3: twenty five, Okay, And I basically said, hey, I mean

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Speaker 3: I would take one hundred. I mean if he's twenty

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Speaker 3: five for one hundred carry, Yeah, four yards of carry

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Speaker 3: does some damage. He's a Hall of Famer. He's a

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Speaker 3: great player. Your run defense hasn't been great and maybe

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Speaker 3: even a little more, and they kept them under that. Now,

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Speaker 3: there are some rushing numbers that are very frightening and lopsided.

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Speaker 3: I mean, don't get me wrong, we'll get into them.

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Speaker 2: Through two hundred and seventeen yards is still two hundred

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Speaker 3: On thousand percent.

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Speaker 2: It didn't really feel like it either, though in a

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Speaker 3: It's funny because we recorded something with with Mike and

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Speaker 3: Rob and we said the same thing, like at the

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Speaker 2: Didn't feel like Lamar had forty three yards show right,

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Speaker 2: And it did not feel anything like the Buffalo game.

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Speaker 3: Like the Buffalo game, you could have told me they

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Speaker 3: ran for five hundred, I'd have been like, that felt

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Speaker 3: had some good run defense moments, it's not it's still

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Speaker 3: is starting to get what they wanted from a Raven's perspective.

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Speaker 3: But you stuffed them in the red zone and you

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. I mean, I think Matt

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Speaker 2: we would have been like, oh, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: the final score was, Like, I think that was it.

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Speaker 2: But if you would have told us DK metcalf was

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Speaker 3: They did.

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Speaker 2: The offense finally recaptured some confidence in the passing game,

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Speaker 2: something that we had seen this season, but not lately.

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Speaker 2: And you know, and Aaron Rodgers played pretty well, and

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Speaker 2: maybe that's the lead that I buried here five minutes

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Speaker 2: into this without bringing him up. It was not MVP

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Speaker 2: closest to that that we've seen, maybe other than one

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Speaker 3: I think it was his best game as a Steeler.

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Speaker 2: I think it was considering the situation, the moment, the opponent,

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Speaker 3: At a broken hand, at a broken wrist, I mean, oh,

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Speaker 3: Let's start with positive is this is a quarterback driven league,

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Speaker 3: and I was starting to worry about the quarterback position

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Speaker 3: I think we have to efficiently be worried if the

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Speaker 2: You know, he did just turned forty two last week.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, right, I mean, this is what happened. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say the beginning of the end, but this

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Speaker 3: I thought he answered in such a big way, you know,

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Speaker 3: week of practice I've had here. Yes, practice matters. That

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Speaker 3: kind of stuff reflects on game day and you go

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Speaker 3: on the road and you get a game you had

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Speaker 3: to get and mostly dropped because of your quarterback. When's

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Speaker 3: the last time we said that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean probably that next year at COVID season

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Speaker 2: me for burying the lead in that regard. But twenty

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Speaker 2: that had us all fired up in the in the booth.

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Speaker 2: Uh when he when he did that, we were all

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Speaker 3: Also, he's a trader, yeah, I mean, but he's super cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he won a Super Bowl there, I get it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: Which they by the way, they did that at halftime,

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Speaker 3: But you gotta respect that team too though. Un that's

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Speaker 3: a big time football team. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: It was just good that Helodi Nada was not part

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Speaker 2: I thought you set the tone early with that deep

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Speaker 2: And I thought that was big in terms of setting

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Speaker 2: it felt like in that first quarter. The Steelers turned

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Speaker 2: of those old coaches. That's one of those old coach adages, right,

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Speaker 2: is like you can't let one loss turn into two.

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Speaker 2: A right or and lost that game, and it was

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Speaker 2: like we lost the organ in double overtime the week before,

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Speaker 2: And I think the Steelers were kind of in danger

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Speaker 2: of if that first quarter doesn't go your way, Oh no,

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Speaker 2: here we go again. You know, the Ravens come out,

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Speaker 2: they get points on their first drive. If you go

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Speaker 2: we go again. Yeah, and instead it's like bang, that

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Speaker 2: We've turned the page. Those last couple of weeks are

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Speaker 2: behind us. Let's go handle business.

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Speaker 3: Ye it, well said A thousand percent agree. And there

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Speaker 3: is an emotional level to it, like, oh no, it's

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Speaker 3: gonna man, we just got punch in the mouth. How

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Speaker 3: Now, red zone, I think we were there super important

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Speaker 2: Well, if those three calls were right the Ravens way.

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Speaker 3: We might have a different story today.

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Speaker 4: It might have been. I mean, I think he's looked

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Speaker 3: One hundred agree. And so going into this game, the

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Speaker 3: I love that the Steelers zagged, you know, they just

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Speaker 4: It's a great way to look me on it, Matt.

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Speaker 4: of those things together. Hey, we've thrown the ball and

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00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 4: we've run the ball, and there's nothing you can do

437
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 4: to stop us, and don't I don't think we've seen

438
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 4: both those elements together. But it was good to see

439
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 4: the passing game coming back and the deep ball coming back,

440
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 4: and you know, that's got to be something that's going

441
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Speaker 4: to worry people, worry opponents moving forward here.

442
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's one of the most encouraging parts

443
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 2: of what we saw yesterday certainly, and you know, like

444
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 2: Matt and I were talking in the kind of the

445
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 2: open of the show, Rob, if you would have told

446
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 2: us all on Friday that the Ravens were going to

447
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 2: rush for you know, about two hundred and twenty yards

448
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: and the Steelers were gonna rush for less than thirty five,

449
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 2: I don't think any of us would have thought that

450
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 2: a victory was remotely possible. I mean, you got out

451
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 2: gained on the ground by nearly two hundred yards, by

452
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 2: about one hundred and eighty yards, But with what you

453
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: were able to do in the past game, I think

454
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 2: winning that turnover margin, even though it's only plus one,

455
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 2: looms large once again. But to me, that was you know,

456
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: I think we all rightfully so there's like this idea

457
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 2: of how the script in our mind has to play

458
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: out for the Steelers to win a game, and there

459
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 2: was some of that yesterday, the red zone success on

460
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: defense and some things like that, but I think overall

461
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 2: it played out a little bit differently than we all

462
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: expected leaning on that past game, Aaron Rodgers turning back

463
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: the clock a little bit, and what really felt like

464
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 2: a onus on getting dk metcalf the ball, getting DK

465
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Speaker 2: Metcalf involved early and often, you know, Wes.

466
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Speaker 4: I think it's been and I've talked to this about

467
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 4: this with people in Pittsburgh and people in other markets.

468
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 4: You know, when you go and you see people you

469
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 4: know from other teams that are working in media for

470
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 4: other teams or what have you, that it's the most

471
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Speaker 4: confounding year I can ever remember in the NFL. I

472
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 4: don't understand it. I don't know, you know. I think

473
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 4: we've all said, well, we know who's bad, but we

474
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 4: don't know who's good. Won't shoot. And then Orleans goes

475
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 4: and beats Tampa, who at one point this year was

476
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Speaker 4: the number one power ranked team in the NFL, and

477
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 4: look like, you know, early on, like they were a

478
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 4: team to beat, you know. And I also think, you know,

479
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 4: when you talk about a season early on versus later on,

480
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 4: I'd rather be playing well late. And I'm hopeful that

481
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 4: the Steelers team that this can be a spark for

482
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 4: him because I'm not sure what the blueprint is other

483
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 4: than the turnover game. Don't turn it over when they

484
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 4: haven't committed a turnover. They won their last nine games.

485
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 4: You know, we always talk about turnover coach and we

486
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 4: think about it in terms of getting the ball well.

487
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 4: Part of that turnover coach is not turning the ball over.

488
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 4: Nine straight games they've won in which they haven't turned

489
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Speaker 4: the ball over. You know, I don't know what it is.

490
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 4: Because we've seen them stop the run against Indianapolis and

491
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 4: do a pretty good jobing in Chicago, do well for

492
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Speaker 4: a half against the Ravens, do well for a half

493
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 4: against Green Bay, and not well the second half. We've

494
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 4: seen them run the ball effectively. We've seen them not

495
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 4: run the ball effectively. We've seen them throw the ball

496
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 4: with Aaron Rodgers, like you said, turn back the clock.

497
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 4: He's looked incredible at times. There's been other times in

498
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 4: the passing game has spottered. Frankly, I don't know what

499
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 4: to make I think the NFL. I don't what to

500
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 4: make of the NFL in general. And the Steelers just

501
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 4: have numbers that if I parsed out six numbers over here,

502
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 4: you'd say, oh, you know, they're ten and two football

503
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 4: team or whatever whatever, ten and three football team. And

504
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 4: then if I parsed out these numbers over here, you'd

505
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 4: think they're a three and ten team. It is. I

506
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 4: don't know what to make of them. I do think

507
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 4: that they've shown a lot of flashes, and I do

508
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 4: think that you know that, I know that they're in

509
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 4: first place in the AFC North after the win, and

510
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 4: I'm hoping this is the kind of game that can

511
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 4: maybe spark them to start putting a few more of

512
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 4: those pieces together. We know that, we know that nobody

513
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 4: ever plays a perfect game. We're all waiting for the

514
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 4: Steelers to play a perfect game. They played a perfect game,

515
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 4: they win one hundred and forty to nothing. Right, it

516
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 4: doesn't exist. The other team's playing too. But I'm hopeful

517
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 4: that what we saw on Sunday is something that can

518
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 4: unlock the more consistent positive elements of the Cities that

519
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 4: we've seen all season long.

520
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a really good conversation. Is turnovers

521
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: aside as you laid out. I mean, we know how

522
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 3: important that is to this team. I'm not sure what

523
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: their real strengths are, I mean, like extreme strengths other

524
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 3: than I think a pass rush. But I also don't

525
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 3: think there's any extreme weaknesses either, you know, like the

526
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: run defense numbers the last couple of weeks, last two

527
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 3: weeks are poor, but they were great. The three weeks

528
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: before that, you know. I mean we've kind of called

529
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 3: it whack a mole on our other show, you know,

530
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: Rob Where. But part of it to thinks that's also

531
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 3: a positive, Like it's not like, boy, if they shut

532
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 3: down our run game, we have nothing else. I mean,

533
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: they can play left handed, they can play a lot

534
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: of different ways. But I also don't know what their

535
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: bread and butter is.

536
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 4: Yeah right, they're they're Integra Montoya. They're also left handed. Yeah, yeah,

537
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 4: they can, they can.

538
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I don't think there's a question.

539
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would like to think that that it shows

540
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 4: you're capable of beating teams in a number of ways.

541
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Speaker 4: And we could spend a week just talking about do

542
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 4: you want to have an identity and your team? Do

543
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 4: you want your identity to be that you don't have

544
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 4: a predictable identity. I don't know, I don't I mean,

545
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 4: I guess.

546
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: Where I was going with that, Rob Like, in the

547
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: last five years, there was only one path to victory

548
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 3: is limit the quarterback have some splash.

549
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 4: You know.

550
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 3: At least now there's a lot of different avenues against

551
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: high quality teams where they can win. And frankly, I

552
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: think only the Bills game where they thoroughly outplayed.

553
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the Chargers game in my memory stings

554
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 4: a little bit. I'd have to go back and look

555
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 4: at the numbers to.

556
00:26:59,200 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 3: Steal their offense.

557
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they did have I think a three to

558
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 4: two lead at one point in that game. But yeah, yeah,

559
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 4: you know, and we're all we're all victims of recency bias.

560
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 4: And you know, we've talked about this, Matt many times

561
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 4: in West. I know I've had this conversation with you

562
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 4: as well, that you know, against top quality opponents, and

563
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 4: I'm talking about Seattle, the Bills, the Bears, the Packers.

564
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 4: You not only had the lead at halftime, but you

565
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 4: got the ball to begin the second half, something that

566
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin has traditionally been good at halftime adjustments. Third

567
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 4: quarter here we go, and going into this third quarter

568
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 4: this week, they were averaging two point eight points per

569
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 4: game in a third quarter, among the worst in the NFL.

570
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 4: You'd think you'd win some of those games, wouldn't you.

571
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 4: We lost all four of them against top teams, and

572
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 4: you know, yet they also have wins against New England

573
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 4: and Indianapolis and now Ball More. I mean, I don't

574
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 4: I'm truly mystified as to why it's gone this way,

575
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 4: why certain elements of the team haven't been as good

576
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: as I thought they were going to be, while some

577
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 4: elements have been pretty darn good. So I think that

578
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 4: right now, I don't know, you know, I would say Denver,

579
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 4: as you know, of course it's too has beat the Patriots.

580
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: Denver the Patriots, their records are the records. Houston is

581
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 4: coming on strong and suddenly now becomes a team that

582
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 4: looks like you don't want to play. But this is

583
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: the time of the year to become that team that

584
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,479
Speaker 4: nobody wants to play. Like I said earlier, Tampa earlier

585
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: on in the season was number one in the power rankings.

586
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 4: They look like the team nobody wanted to play. This

587
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 4: was a team that was gonna sweep through well look

588
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: at him. Now it is lost in New Orleans at home,

589
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 4: and they are hanging on for dear life to eek

590
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 4: into the playoffs. So this is a time of year

591
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 4: you want to start playing well. I've used a puzzle

592
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: analogy all along, which is that I feel like there's

593
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: a bunch of puzzle pieces on the table that haven't

594
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: quite seemed to fit for whatever reason, no matter what

595
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 4: pieces I pick up, they don't fit right. And I

596
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 4: don't know why, but I see that the puzzle pieces

597
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 4: are there. I think they're there anyway, That's what I'm seeing.

598
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to speak for everybody. That's what it

599
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 4: feels like to me. And maybe they're the team that

600
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: puts those puzzle pieces together, and maybe they're the team

601
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 4: that goes on and run, and maybe they're the team

602
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 4: a month from now people are saying, oh, you gotta

603
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 4: go to Pittsburgh to play this teethers. I don't know,

604
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 4: because you know, listen, you're also six and six going

605
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: into this game, so we know it can go the

606
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 4: other way too. I'd like to think it's gonna go

607
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 4: the positive way. I hope this is the kind of game,

608
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: the kind of emotional victory in which there were a

609
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: lot of good signs again from this team, maybe not

610
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 4: the complete puzzle picture, but a lot of good signs.

611
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: I'd like to think that maybe this is the kind

612
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 4: of win that can spark them toward being that team

613
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: that people are all of a sudden saying, oh, that

614
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 4: was a pretty good team. They got there, bit person.

615
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: Hopefully that's the case we were talking about, you know,

616
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: at the start of the show, Rob like, as much

617
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: as you know, athletes seem like robots and cyborgs and

618
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: a different species, Like these guys are humans. They're emotional too,

619
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: And yeah, a win like that, and certainly what that

620
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: can do for your psyche, what that can do to

621
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: you know, give you a springboard down the home stretch

622
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: of the season here, I can't think. I don't think

623
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: can be understated as well.

624
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: Super quick, Rob, and did mean to keep you longer,

625
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 3: but and we're not gonna talk to you next Monday.

626
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: I know you're always way ahead of the game with

627
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: advanced scouting.

628
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: On the plane on the way home yesterday, he's got

629
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphin's depth chart out. You know, the rest

630
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: of us are eating ice cream and drinking gatorade and

631
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: watching TV, and he's perusing the Miami Dolphins step chart.

632
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: Rob, I don't think Miami's a pushover anymore.

633
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 4: No, they've won four straight games. You know another conversation

634
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: Wes that Matt and I have had because it kind

635
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: of occurred to me more last night than any other time.

636
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: You know a lot of times you say, oh, it's

637
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 4: when you play a team, right, sure, Well, name me

638
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: a team that this year is when they've played them,

639
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 4: That team hasn't given them their best, That team hasn't

640
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 4: had a ton to play for.

641
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: That team hasn't been Patriots. Maybe Patriots would maybe be

642
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: the only one.

643
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe, but look what they've done. I think the

644
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 4: series the last team to.

645
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: Beat them, right, Yeah, the way you framed it was

646
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: that that team didn't play their best. I mean, the

647
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: Patriots had five turnovers that day. Was was my kind

648
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: of thought process in that I'm not.

649
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 4: Saying that they played their I'm not saying they played

650
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: their best in that game. I'm saying that when they

651
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Speaker 4: came up on the schedule, there was a lot for

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Speaker 4: that team to play for the Ravens obviously.

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Speaker 2: But you know, yeah not Week three against New England.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're kind of Daniel Jones sideline. You know,

655
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: you didn't get back.

656
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: You didn't get like you did as it last year

657
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: or two years ago or two years last year, I

658
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,239
Speaker 2: think it was right or whenever you opened with the

659
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: Falcons who had just Kirk Cousins hadn't played football in months, right,

660
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: and then you got bow knicks. You got bow knicks

661
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: in his second ever NFL start, like those go in

662
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: your favor and back to back.

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Speaker 3: We didn't get Browning, you got Flacco.

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Speaker 2: It seems like this year. Yeah, it's on the opposite.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been that kind of a schedule, and I

666
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 4: think they're getting another top test here. Now. You know,

667
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Speaker 4: if the Steelers wind up, even if they go ten

668
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 4: and seven, they're gonna be able to look back at

669
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Speaker 4: some quality victories against some quality opponents. And again, but

670
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 4: it's it's it's so much as you guys know, it's

671
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Speaker 4: about how you're playing in the month of December and

672
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Speaker 4: getting on that role into the playoffs and getting, like

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Speaker 4: you said, the human element west, that that sense of

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Speaker 4: hey we are we're a team, uh, that you don't

675
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: want to trifle with. I believe that a team that

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Speaker 4: thinks they're good or has something to play for is

677
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Speaker 4: a dangerous opponent. And to Matt's point, the Miami Dolphins,

678
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 4: they still have a puncher's chance here, They've got a

679
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 4: lot to play for. I mean, look at I try

680
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: to always look at as Matt does, the other team.

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Speaker 4: You know, what is their perspective, Well, we think we

682
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: can beat the students. Then we have Cincinnati at home,

683
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 4: or we think we can beat them at home and

684
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 4: we have camp at home. They're reeling we might be

685
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Speaker 4: able to go nine and seven going into a to

686
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 4: a big game on the road to finish up to

687
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Speaker 4: the season, and hey, ten and seven gets us in

688
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 4: the playoffs. Now, they're a team with a lot of

689
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Speaker 4: belief and I and I felt that way about Cincinnati.

690
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 4: Cincinnati knew they had to win that game against Steelers.

691
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Speaker 4: I think that the Dolphins are a dangerous opponent. I

692
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 4: don't know about eight chance health. You got banged out

693
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Speaker 4: of yesterday's game. That'll obviously be a big ticket item

694
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Speaker 4: for him. Although Jalen Wright came in and played a

695
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 4: great game for him.

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Speaker 3: But I went, if they needed to, he's gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Okay. So he's okay, And so he's a handful man,

698
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 4: He is a handful. So uh yeah, it's hey man,

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00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 4: it's December football, and after after yesterday's when it means

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Speaker 4: more than ever, I.

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Speaker 3: Would have much rather to play the Dolphins of Week

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Speaker 3: three than this upcoming week. I'll tell you that, no

703
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Speaker 3: doubt about.

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Speaker 2: Hey, at least we did uh, at least we did

705
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Speaker 2: dodge Joe Burrow twice. We got that we got that

706
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Speaker 2: going for us, at least the Great rob the Great

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Speaker 2: Rob King, the King in the Castle, Rob King. What's

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Speaker 2: your favorite Taylor Swift song? Before we let you go?

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Speaker 2: This guy trying to tell for everybody, this rob some.

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Speaker 4: Deep thought, my favorite song is Coolow.

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Speaker 2: This Rob King guy claimed to us earlier that he

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Speaker 2: didn't know who Taylor Swift was. I mean, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no.

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Speaker 4: I never said that. I never said that. I said

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Speaker 4: I don't know any of her song. That's not to

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Speaker 4: say I actually watched the documentary on her. You know,

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00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 4: obviously I know who Taylor Swift is and I and

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Speaker 4: I applaud her her great success. I've heard she's an

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Speaker 4: extremely you know, write your own music, very talented musician

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Speaker 4: who plays several instruments. I mean, those are the things

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Speaker 4: I know about her. But there's lots of you know,

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Speaker 4: they mentioned Toby Keith. Sorry, guy, I don't know any

723
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 4: Toby Keith suns. So you know, I'm gonna go crawl

724
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 4: back under my rock with my Dolphin's roster and get

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Speaker 4: out on the rest of my debt.

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Speaker 2: If it's not Abbey Road, Rob King doesn't want anything

727
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Speaker 2: to do with it. The voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers,

728
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: the great Rob King kind enough to take the time

729
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Speaker 2: on a Monday. Kinger, thanks dude, we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 4: You gotta guys, thank you.

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Speaker 2: There he goes, Rob King. He's full of it. I mean,

732
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: come on, come on, this guy sends me music recommendations

733
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Speaker 2: about twice a week on Apple Music. And come on,

734
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Speaker 2: he knows at least a tailor swa. Even if you

735
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: don't know the title of it, you know the hum along.

736
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Speaker 3: You probably don't know, you know it. That's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Good way to put it, very good way to put it.

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Speaker 2: One more segment to go here in the first hour

739
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Speaker 2: on the other side, a crazy statistic from yesterday's game,

740
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Speaker 2: and we do have to talk about some of those

741
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: contra versial moments as well. We'll do all that more

742
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Speaker 2: as we roll along. Yuler Williamson, It's the Drive on

743
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

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00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

745
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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

746
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as we roll along on

747
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: a Monday recapping the Steelers much needed twenty seven to

748
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: twenty two win in Baltimore against the Ravens. Matt. I'm

749
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: not sure you might have seen this already. It was

750
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Speaker 2: making the rounds on Twitter last night, and you are

751
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 2: the stats guy, But did you see the Steelers run

752
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: game getting out rushed by one hundred and seventy yards

753
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: and historically what that's meant? Did you see this going

754
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: around the three World War Two statistics?

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00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: I did see that one.

756
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 2: Yes, the Steelers have won three games since World War

757
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: Two where they were out rushed by one hundred and

758
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: seventy more yards. They've all been, They've all been in

759
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: the last five years against the Ravens. They've all been

760
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: in Baltimore. Yeah, as well. Twenty twenty in Baltimore the

761
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: Steelers were out rushed by two hundred and seventeen yards

762
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 2: and still found away to win that game one hundred

763
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: and eighty three yesterday. And then in twenty twenty one,

764
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Speaker 2: the Steelers were out rushed by one hundred and seventy

765
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Speaker 2: yards and still won that game. Yeah, you can't get

766
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: away with it too often, but when you can't, it

767
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: has to be in Baltimore against the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Steelers Ravens is different than everything. Weird, man, It is

769
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: just a weird rivalry. It's a weird immense knowledge of

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Speaker 3: one another.

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00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: That's the big thing.

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Speaker 3: So a couple of notes here you mentioned you know,

773
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Speaker 3: did I see it? I wasn't like actively finding things.

774
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 3: But it's gotten to the point just this last week

775
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: or two that my Twitter followers would be like, oh, Matt,

776
00:37:59,200 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: you'll like this one.

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00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: Now they're like yeah right, I mean just the last

779
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: couple of weeks. Didn't used to be the case, or

780
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: like someone will state something like that's something Williamson would say.

781
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: Something Matt would like like, oh yeah, I do like that.

782
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: Good. A couple that were made aware to me. This

783
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: one was made aware to me. Also, which isn't his

784
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 3: friendly is the games that Harmon has played compared to

785
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: the games he's not. There's about one hundred rushing yards

786
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: per game difference allowed by the Steelers defense. Now, do

787
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: I think he's the best run defender that's ever walked

788
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 3: the planet? No, but it's getting to be quite the trend,

789
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I know he's only missed four games,

790
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 3: but still they're allowing about one hundred yards more in

791
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: those games than when he's out there and he was

792
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: missed again, you know, like, why are you black? Other

793
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: than Cam. Their defensive linemen are going backwards too much.

794
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: Yes, in the name in the run game, yes, And

795
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: I think to grain of salt, those guys there's a

796
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: little square peg, round hole usage or deployment whenever they're down,

797
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: Derek Harmon, you got to ask betten to do some

798
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: things that aren't exactly his greatest strengths. You got to

799
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: ask why a black to do some things that aren't

800
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: exactly his great strength ready for yet? Yeah, but that

801
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: is also life in the National Football League. That's also

802
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: in general. When my daughter's wake me up at three

803
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: in the morning, that's not something I'm built for. It's

804
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: but it's like it still happens when you're when you're down,

805
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: Derek Harmon, it might not be something that you're built for,

806
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 2: but it still happens.

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00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: And and with all respect to Harmon, that's not like

808
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: I'm down Watt and Hayward. You know, like he's a

809
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: piece of the puzzle. But he's not you know the moment,

810
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not the biggest.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's you know, I'm not down Jonathan Taylor

812
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 2: to my my offense, Donald like I guess sure, sure, uh, yes,

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00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: I I'm with you. On that it was and I

814
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: think what might have even added to that was again

815
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: to just I don't even know if it's given him

816
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt. It's reality. Benton on the

817
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: first or second Ravens Drives was stinged up, had to

818
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: go to the sideline for a few plays winning in

819
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 2: the blue tank, ended up coming back. So credit to him.

820
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: But if you're already down harmon, if then Benton is

821
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: compromised and not you know, playing trying to play through something, and.

822
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 3: Just everybody's just kind of miscast a little bit there, right.

823
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: And in general too, as we've discussed the Steelers defense

824
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: and the snap counts and the time of possession and

825
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: the amount of football that Cam Hayward's played at this

826
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Speaker 2: point in the season already and what you're kind of

827
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: trying to do with him at his age and keep

828
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Speaker 2: him fresh, and it all becomes more difficult and it

829
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: puts more stress and more onus on everybody. But you

830
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 2: are right, it's starting to feel speaking of Cam, I mean,

831
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: I know you and Dale did motes and I did.

832
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 2: Everybody regurgitated the Steelers defensive numbers last year in the

833
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: run game with Cam Hayward was on the field, and

834
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Speaker 2: when he wasn't in twenty twenty four, it was a

835
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Speaker 2: night and day difference. They were like a top three

836
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 2: first last basically, they were like a top three rush

837
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Speaker 2: defense with Cam on the field. They were a bottom

838
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: three or bottom five with him on the sideline. And

839
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 2: it's starting.

840
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to be that reliant on one player.

841
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 3: But it also shows his greatness totally. Yeah, but that's

842
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: why you draft Harmon, so you're not as.

843
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: And you're right and so in the same way, it's

844
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: kind of like it's encouraging about Derek Harmon in a way.

845
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this guy's stuff, right, Like I wish I

846
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 3: was Derek Harmon's agent, be like, hey, I'm what's one

847
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: hundred rushing yards per game worth you? You know, like you

848
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: make me a fifty million dollar player.

849
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Speaker 2: I I it's it is impossible to ignore over these

850
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, yea, with his absence.

851
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: I mean you can feel it, you know. And again,

852
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: he's not the best player in the league. He's not

853
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: the best run to stuffer in the league, but you

854
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: can definitely feel it, especially in the Bills game, because

855
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: the Bills game ran right way.

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00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: You know, So You're right, he might not be the

857
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: best in the league, but he might be one of

858
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: the most important, one of those.

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00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: Very important, right and to me, that's encouraging for him.

860
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: Maybe he's even back this week. I mean he's gonna

861
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 3: missed two games, Yes, I think miss.

862
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: Four and Queen's banged up and Harrison exits the game.

863
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 3: Are some concussions in this game.

864
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, both sides of the ball, but particularly on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers side, Darnol Washington, I guess having an extra day

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Speaker 2: this week is good in that regard. As you and

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Speaker 2: I often talk about with concussion stuff now and that protocol,

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Speaker 2: it's so hard even with the extra day to within

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Speaker 2: a week past. He did so he did, but I

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Speaker 2: feel like that, but I feel like that's more rare

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Speaker 2: now than what we typically see. But again, that's all

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Speaker 2: we can talk tomorrow down the line and what Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin has to say, and obviously we'll keep it eye on, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll keep an eye on the practice reports and all

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Speaker 2: that as we roll on throughout the week. The Baltimore

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Speaker 2: Ravens are the first team since twenty twenty two to

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Speaker 2: lose a game after producing two hundred plus rushing yards

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Speaker 2: and allowing fifty or fewer rushing yards last ting to

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Speaker 2: do so the twenty twenty two Jags against the Colts.

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Speaker 2: They got to be kicking themselves a little bit in

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Speaker 2: Baltimore today.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a tough one day there.

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Speaker 2: If we're if we're R and R got rest and relaxation,

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Speaker 2: Ravens Nation Radio, I think that we're kind of kicking

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Speaker 2: ourselves and saying yesterday was a microcosm of this entire

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Speaker 2: season to some degree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like our star isn't quite the same, you know,

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Speaker 3: And that's that you can live with.

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Speaker 2: And we did a lot of good things, but we

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Speaker 2: made just one or two crucial errors and moments that

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Speaker 2: ended up costing us. And that's kind of its kind

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Speaker 2: of been the case for Baltimore and all their losses

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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 3: And folks, all you people listening would be the same way.

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Speaker 3: And I know you don't care screw the Ravens, but

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Speaker 3: you probably wouldn't be real thrilled with the ref situation

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Speaker 3: on R and R right now too right and the

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Speaker 3: whole Friar move catch it instead of likely you know,

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Speaker 3: here's yes, just put yourself in their shoes and it's.

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Speaker 2: A magic Lamar Jackson throwing that interception that was overturned,

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Speaker 2: a lot of cribadge and who has possession and all

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Speaker 2: those things. Those are the two big ones. And then

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Speaker 2: I think even the personal foul on the field goal.

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Speaker 3: Was that one was I actually think was questioned a

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Speaker 3: little fifty to fifty. The two big ones that you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: I think that they made the right call. Maybe don't

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Speaker 3: like the rules, but those are the rules. The one

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Speaker 3: on the field goal I thought was a bad call.

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Speaker 2: But you know, write this down, Mark this down for

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Speaker 2: the next time you feel like the Steelers are hard

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Speaker 2: done by officiating, because it goes both ways. Sometimes it

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Speaker 2: works for you, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the fifty to

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Speaker 2: fifty calls are split fifty to fifty. Sometimes they're heavily

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Speaker 2: slanted to one team. And again, though despite all that,

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Speaker 2: despite as my goodness, Matt, you know, we would have

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Speaker 2: gotten seven hundred tweets about please crush the refs, please

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Speaker 2: talk about it, Please talk about how we got screwed,

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Speaker 2: which I'm sure is happening happening in Baltimore. The Ravens

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Speaker 2: still had ample opportunities to win that game. Despite absolutely

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Speaker 2: that's just the way that things happen.

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Speaker 3: All kind of it will in the second half.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's that's too much. That's the way that

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Speaker 2: things happen over the course of a sixty minute game.

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Speaker 2: The calls at the end typically feel more weighted. But

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Speaker 2: it is a long game with a lot of ebbs

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Speaker 2: and flows, a lot of good calls, a lot of

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Speaker 2: bad calls, plenty of miss stuff on both sides. But

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Speaker 2: I do feel like it worked a little bit in

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Speaker 2: the Steelers department in that regard yesterday. Let's start there,

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Speaker 2: Let's go over some of those, give some thoughts, maybe

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Speaker 2: what Gene Sterotor had to say about these things from

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Speaker 2: an NFL officiating perspective. All of that, An Hour number

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Speaker 2: two will also go around the league and recap a

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Speaker 2: really busy and important week fourteen. Can we put the

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs to bed? We'll talk about that an

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Speaker 2: Hour number two as well. Matt Williamson West Shuler halfway

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Speaker 2: home here on a victory Monday. It's the Drive on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.