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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? Hello, everybody. We are just going to

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Speaker 1: have a little recap of All or Nothing. It's episode

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Speaker 1: three ten. It aired August thirteenth, in the year two

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Speaker 1: thousand and This is a really, really, really really good episode.

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Speaker 1: It's one of my all time favorite episodes. Directed by

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Speaker 1: Charles McDougal, one of my favorite directors, and written by

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Speaker 1: Jenny Banks, one of my favorite writers. And in this

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Speaker 1: episode we have great people. Of course, we have Corbett

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Speaker 1: it's playing Aiden. We've got Kyle playing Trey, we have

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Speaker 1: Franny playing Bunny. We have Josh Hamilton playing George, whom

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Speaker 1: I love so much. He's a great actor, you guys,

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Speaker 1: and his part's really funny. So this is the episode.

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Speaker 1: The gist of this episode is that this is when

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Speaker 1: Carrie has been cheating on Big. She has not confessed

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Speaker 1: to any of the friends that she has been doing this.

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Speaker 1: She is trying to just kind of move along with

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Speaker 1: Aiden as though it didn't happen, and focus on the

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Speaker 1: fact that she has a wonderful boyfriend. And then she'd

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Speaker 1: be walking along and she'll have these flashbacks of the

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Speaker 1: sex with big, and then she's like, oh God. And

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Speaker 1: she's really really good when she has these, because I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've all been there, and she's you know, internally riddled

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Speaker 1: with guilt and trying to kind of somehow muddle her

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Speaker 1: way through, and she's like, I'm never doing it again,

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Speaker 1: and you know whatnot, so let's.

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Speaker 2: Talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Basically, what happens is she's got these flashbacks. We come,

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Speaker 1: we start at Samantha's new apartment in the meatpacking district.

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Speaker 1: We're having this little like party.

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Speaker 2: Where one of the really funny, very.

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Speaker 1: Time type things we're talking about is how you can

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Speaker 1: have anything delivered, because Samantha says, I said, oh, did

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Speaker 1: you make these whatever we're eating, and she says, no,

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Speaker 1: I have them delivered, just like the dinner and the

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Speaker 1: drinks and the DVDs. And we're like, oh, you can

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Speaker 1: new apartment in the meatpacking district that she bought. She

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Speaker 2: We've got it all.

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Speaker 1: Basically, she wakes up the next morning, she has these

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Speaker 1: And so then it's like, breaks my heart. This whole

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Speaker 1: handyman I'm sure we all remember that Charlotte actually has

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Speaker 1: So eventually, luckily in the episode, Samantha calls Carrie and

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Speaker 1: And I had fully forgotten that Samantha basically makes her

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Speaker 2: So Carrie is not that person. She's not that person

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Speaker 2: So we find Charlotte in Burgdorf's.

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Speaker 1: This is the scene I remember so well that I

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Speaker 1: So he gets these papers out, he hands them to me,

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Speaker 2: A pre nup.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just normal. Everyone in my family does one.

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Speaker 1: And Miranda's saying, oh, it's just normal. You know a

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Speaker 1: is here it is for every five years they're married,

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Speaker 1: thirty years. I mean, that's lame people. And obviously Charlotte

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Speaker 2: Enough in that scene. I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: What the heck? Man is just wacky.

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Speaker 1: And also, five hundred thousand dollars over thirty years, based

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Speaker 2: That's a horrible deal. So I hadn't really thought.

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Speaker 1: About all these numbers, because back at the time, I

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Speaker 1: dead screen time to watch people buzz. Now. I do

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00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: remember other scenes in Carrie's out because Carrie has a

431
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: little intertercom by her door where people would buzz. So

432
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 1: I guess if it's something interesting, we would have them buzz.

433
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 1: But it's not something interesting. It's dead time. We don't

434
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: have time. We only have twenty five minutes to do

435
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: the whole show, right, So that's why we don't do it,

436
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 1: which is the same reason why we don't hug each

437
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 1: other every time we see each other or every time

438
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: we say goodbye. There is not screen time. There's no

439
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: hugging aloud. Anyway, back to this show, So Carrie ends

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00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 1: up going back to Aiden's apartment.

441
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: She comes in.

442
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: He's in a sheet, he's all adorable and he's like

443
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 1: massive sheet for his naked sleeping self. And she comes

444
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 1: in and you can tell she just so happy that

445
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: she has him and that he doesn't know the truth

446
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: about what she's been doing, and it's kind of sweet.

447
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: And then She's still struggling to try to get the

448
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: thoughts out of her mind a big and so she

449
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: does all this organizing in her apartment, wearing the cutest,

450
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: weirdest little green like jumpsuit, one of her very unique,

451
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, at home outfits. She's smoking a lot, and

452
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 1: then she calls Big and she's like, we.

453
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 2: Need to talk about what happened.

454
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 1: And he's like now, and he's kind of his regular

455
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: dick self, if I might say, and she's like yes,

456
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: because you know, it was just a physical thing and

457
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: we are not going to be that immature and let

458
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: that rule us.

459
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 2: And he was like, we're not.

460
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 1: And she goes, no, we can, you know, go against

461
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: those urges. And he said, well, can you really do that?

462
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: And she's like yes. Cut to them in bed together.

463
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: So sad, so sad.

464
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: So I was really having a lot of mixed feelings

465
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Speaker 1: because I was on aid inside this whole episode. You know,

466
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Speaker 1: I don't know why. I guess it's just a on

467
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: the episode whose side I'm on. But they sleep together again,

468
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: and then Aiden's been out of town.

469
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 2: I left that out.

470
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: He had to take a chair to someone in Pennsylvania,

471
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: which I'm like, wait and just like that. I think

472
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: he goes to Virginia, which is where he lives, but

473
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: in this time he has to go to Pennsylvania in

474
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: the truck. It's all very it's all very. Aiden has

475
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: a lot of similar similar through lines. So Aiden comes

476
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: back and she's like, oh, I missed you so much,

477
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: and there's no sheets on the bed because they smelled

478
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: like Big. But Big had said he can smell Aiden

479
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: on the sheets, and she's so worried that Aidan's gonna

480
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: smell Big on the sheets, so she taken the sheets off.

481
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: And then, oh, Samantha, weirdly had said to Carrie in

482
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: the first scene, if Aiden hasn't said I love you yet,

483
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: then you're a free agent. And I thought that that

484
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: was so odd because why does Samantha care what the

485
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: guy is gonna say. Shouldn't it be up to the

486
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: woman if she's a free agent or not. Thought that

487
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: was really interesting. So then Aiden comes back and he says, Carrie,

488
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,239
Speaker 1: I was thinking about something while I was gone, I

489
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: love you, and you can see carry just like man.

490
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: It's oh god, apparently now I'm not a free agent now.

491
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: And then she of course tells him that she loves him.

492
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: Back and then oh, this was so scary. It's like

493
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: maybe the next morning and the phone rings, and oh, Aiden,

494
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: proving he's so smart, is filling in the password the

495
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: sorry the crossword for her, which is like so impressive

496
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: because there's this whole through line with the crossword puzzle.

497
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember where carry walks

498
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: down the street and she sees Big on the street

499
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: and he's trying to do the crossword and she leans

500
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: over and tells him a word in the crossword and

501
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: he looks up at her like, well, I didn't know

502
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: you were so smart, which of course he should have

503
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: known because she's a writer. So in this particular scene,

504
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: Carrie's doing the crossword puzzle and Aiden leans over and

505
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: says and she says what and he says exotic animal

506
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: four down EMU and she goes, oh, well, I would

507
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: have gotten that, and he said, no, you wouldn't because

508
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: you have this word over here and it's wrong, and

509
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, Aiden, awesome job. Then the phone rings.

510
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: She picks it up. It's Big.

511
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: He's like, I need to see you and she's like,

512
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: oh hey, Miranda, and you know, tries to carry it

513
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: off and he says, I'm downstairs and I'm coming out.

514
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm coming up if you don't come out, and I'm like,

515
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: what a jerk, you know.

516
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: So then Carrie's got Aiden upstairs and Biggest downstairs on

517
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: the street, and we've already seen that he's willing to

518
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: just show up, right, So she goes down there and

519
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: she says she has to walk the dog, Pete, and

520
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: you know what's coming, you guys. This is one of

521
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: the most terrifying, terrifying storylines in the whole show.

522
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 2: I think she takes.

523
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: Pete, the adorable, innocent dog down with her. BIG's down

524
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: there wearing the weirdest like Hawaiian shirt. I don't even

525
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: understand what's happening with that shirt. And they're in the

526
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: beautiful village in the spring. It's gorgeous. Carrie's wearing her

527
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: adorable gym shorts and her red slides heels, and Big

528
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: is like, you know, I'm telling my wife tonight.

529
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: And she's like, no, don't do that. She gets really.

530
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: Mad, and she gets she kind of gestures with her

531
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: hands and then she looks down and Pete's not there.

532
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 2: He's run away. You guys. The anxiety I have watching

533
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: this scene.

534
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: I cannot live through it because I couldn't remember what

535
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: happened to Pete.

536
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: I was like, is Pete gonna be okay?

537
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: He's running through the West Village with all the cars

538
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: and all the people, and he's running full tilt, right.

539
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: So when she realizes he's gone, she runs in the

540
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: heels and they track along with her. The most gorgeous shots,

541
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: like the trees are blooming. It's just gorgeous. But it's

542
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: also terrifying because the dog is running through the traffic

543
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: and Big is running and huffing and puffing after her,

544
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, Big needs to work out more,

545
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. And then Carrie, of course,

546
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: because Sara Jessica is a pro, she is running in

547
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: those heels like nobody's business. And I'm just so happy

548
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: she didn't an ankle because there's not even an ankle

549
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: strap on the shoes, right, they're just slides and she's running.

550
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: But this is who the woman is, guys, she really

551
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 1: does this. It's impressive. So she runs, she runs, She

552
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 1: runs for three hours. She never calls Aiden, who's at

553
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: her house, because she doesn't have a cell phone, and

554
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: because she can't find his dog she thinks she's lost

555
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: his dog forever. Can you imagine, Oh my god, I

556
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: was dying. Then it starts to rain and she's wet

557
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: and her shirt is fully see through, which I did

558
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: not remember, you guys, And this was in our peasant

559
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: shirt phase. We all, she bought me some peasant shirts.

560
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: We wore a lot of peasant shirts this one summer.

561
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: And her shirt and her bra or sea through and

562
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, does Sir Jesca know that that thing happened,

563
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: because I don't know if she knows, but I felt

564
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: something anxiety about that, but most of those really anxious

565
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: about Pete. She goes home in total defeat, and thank god,

566
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 1: Pete is there, you guys.

567
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: He's at the apartment. He found his way home. What

568
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 2: a relief.

569
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: And then Aiden says, basically, I can tell that you're cheating.

570
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: And she sits down and she looks crushed like she's

571
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: going to have to actually tell him. But what it

572
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: is is that he thinks she's been smoking cigarettes, and

573
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: so he says, you've been smoking, haven't you? And she's like, uhuh,

574
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: And the voiceover says something like it was true and

575
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: it was true. Of course it's not the whole truth,

576
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: but it was in fact true. So then she gets

577
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: away with it, but not for long, as we all know.

578
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: But it's so good. It's so good.

579
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even live through watching that dog

580
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: run through the village though, I can't even watch it.

581
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: It's just really stressful, but just so good, just so

582
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: incredibly good. Oh my gosh, Oh should we read her

583
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: really excellent voice over in the beginning.

584
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: It's so good.

585
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of those those episodes where

586
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: we were really I think cheating is just fascinating, is

587
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: that doctor Orner says. There's so many different reasons that

588
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: people cheat and different things why they might cheat or

589
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: what they might be trying to express. But I mean,

590
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: it's endlessly fascinating to me why people cheat and whether

591
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: they tell or don't tell, And you know, it's fascinating.

592
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: So this is Carrie's initial, you know, thought for her column.

593
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: Since the since birth, modern women have been told that

594
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: they can do and be anything we want, be an astronaut,

595
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 1: the head of an internet company, a stay at home mom.

596
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: There aren't any rules anymore, and the choices are endless,

597
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: and apparently they can all be delivered.

598
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: Right to your door.

599
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: But is it possible that we've gotten so spoiled by

600
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: choices that we've become unable to make one The part

601
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: of us knows that once you choose something one man,

602
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: one great apartment, one amazing job, another option goes away.

603
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: Are we a generation of women who can't choose just one?

604
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: From column ad? We all have too much to handle?

605
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,239
Speaker 1: Or what's Samantha right? Can we have it all? And

606
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: I say no, we can't have it all, But I

607
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: think we can have it all, just at different times.

608
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: I think it doesn't. It's not possible to have it

609
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: all at once. That's what I think. That's what I

610
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: think we need to understand and give ourselves a break about,

611
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: Like you're doing one thing now and you can do

612
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: something else in the future, or maybe you used to

613
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: be focused on one thing, but then you can change

614
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: your focus to a different thing. But I do think

615
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: it's hard to focus on everything at once because there's

616
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: just there's always so much time and energy and something's

617
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 1: going to suffer.

618
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: That's what I think.

619
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: I hope that's not not a downer, that's like Kristin

620
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: not Charlotte, obviously.

621
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: But it's a really good episode.

622
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoy it, Let me know your

623
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: thoughts on Instagram if you want to, and thanks for

624
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: joining us.

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00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: Bye,