1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Lay fifteen to ten touchdoup Welcome to Chargers Weekly. Would 2 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Julila die Matt Maney Smith here as unfortunately we are 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: no longer talking about active football games. We're talking about 4 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: past football games and future football performance. The Chargers complete 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: and eleven and six season, Julil They punched their ticket 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: into the tournament. A lot of people felt really good 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: about that wildcard matchup against the Texans. Unfortunately it did 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: not go their way after the first quarter and a 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: half got away from them. They lose thirty two to twelve. 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: And now they look forward to twenty twenty five and 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: build on the success that we experienced this year with 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: this team. And certainly you look at the Joe Ortis 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: and Jim Harbaugh presser from earlier in the week and 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of positivity. And I think there's a 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: reason for a lot of positivity. 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. And when you look at the season, 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: you say, okay, well, this is supposed to be a 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: rebuilding year. Everyone said it would be a rebuilding year. 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: And then the way that the Chargers and the coaching 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: staff came out this year and played at a high 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: level weekend week out, injuries, new guys coming in and 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: everyone's still staying on one accord. It was really impressive 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: where the front office did with the key acquisitions and 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: the draft, free agency throughout the season, and just the 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: way that the guys bought into Jim Harbo's culture, the 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: way that they bought into his toughness, the way he 27 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: wants to play stifling defense, be physical, run the ball 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: on offense, and obviously special teams was a really really 29 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: positive asset for the organization this year as well. So 30 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: you have to I'm a I'm a look at I'm 31 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: a silver lining guy. I look at the positives, right, 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: and you say, Okay, this team was not supposed to 33 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: buy many to make the playoffs, right, they did that. 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: Many people didn't think that Herbert would be able to 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: have the season that he would have without you know, 36 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: Keenan Allen and Mike Mike Dubb, and he showed that 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: he still can get it done, right, So you got 38 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: to look at it at the positive side. I'm looking 39 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: at it on the bright side. Obviously what happened in 40 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: Houston was not the best foot forward. That game just 41 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: kind of felt all it can go either way, right, 42 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: and I think we'll talk about more money, but I 43 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: think one of the turning points is was when Durwain 44 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: James picked the ball off in the red zone and 45 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: we're like, hey, they're marching down here, but they're not 46 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: really getting many points, right, We're stopping them. We're getting 47 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: turnovers and kicking field goals. And when that was overturned, 48 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: that obviously gave them a second second chance. And obviously 49 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: the interceptions and stuff like that. So positive season, good 50 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: things to look at. The are things a pool. 51 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: Form look and I don't. I want to make sure 52 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: that we don't go through the pod and people say, oh, 53 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: here we go, excuse making we get it. You know, 54 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: they were favored pretty much every expert pick the Chargers 55 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: to beat the Texans. It wasn't their day. It was 56 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: that the Texans were the better team. I mean on paper, 57 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: were they're the better team. You can argue that. You know, 58 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: they were dealing with injuries no different than the Chargers. 59 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: It had Nico Collins and nobody else to catch passes 60 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: from CJ stubs. You had an offensive line that they 61 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: gave up fifty two sacks. So when you're talking about 62 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: the things that people are pointing to that perhaps contributed 63 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: to the loss, for the Chargers. The Texans were the 64 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: team that were able to overcome that, and it took 65 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: them a minute. It took them about twenty five twenty 66 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: eight minutes to get through it, but they were able 67 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: to stay on task overcome it. And that's what football is. 68 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: It's overcoming adversity inside a game through the course of 69 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: a season. That's essentially what this sport is and it's 70 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: why it's the most popular form of entertainment in the nation. 71 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: So understand like, that's not what this will be. But 72 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: I also think it's also important to keep the big 73 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: picture in perspective, and that's why I think it's okay 74 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: to kind of cut this thing into three pieces, you know, 75 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: regular season, the or I should even say, you can 76 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: almost go like the off season into the regular season, 77 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: and then into the playoff, and then looking forward, how 78 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: do we feel about this team looking forward? So you 79 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: can you can have a bad feeling in a bummer 80 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: of a feeling about the playoff game while still being 81 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: able to look at those other three components and saying, hey, 82 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: in a one hundred percent pie that's divided into quarters, right, 83 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: three of the quarters that you feel really good about 84 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: should make you feel pretty darn good moving forward. 85 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree with you. It's like you look 86 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: at who's free agents and what free agents are going 87 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: to be brought back, right, how are they gonna address 88 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: free agents and offseason who they're going to go out 89 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: and get. The draft is coming up, so it's gonna 90 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: be a very very intriguing off season. Obviously, there's pieces 91 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: to be fulfilled. There's gonna be a lot of cap 92 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: space based off of what they decide to do with 93 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: trading players or cutting players. So it's gonna be interested. 94 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be obviously locked in. I'm always locked in 95 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: a boat through and through. It runs in my vein. 96 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 2: So I'm excited, man, I'm excited money. 97 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, just to kind of acknowledge the 98 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: playoff game, which I think was a continuation of the 99 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: regular season, and that is you had a defense that 100 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: save really one game. You know, we'll both take the 101 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: Tampa game and you just shove it aside. You're really 102 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: talking about one game that that unit didn't perform at 103 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: a level that you were used to the other sixteen games. 104 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: And I think you look at that that playoff game 105 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: and defense delivered. I know there's a third two spot 106 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: on the board. But when you look at how those 107 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: thirty two points were scored, you can argue that you know, 108 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: it's twenty two points at the bare minimum, and considering 109 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: the time of possession and how those that nine possession 110 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: chunk went after the two field goals, it's asking an 111 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: awful lot for the team to deliver. But a defensive 112 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: side of the football that was populated with a few 113 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: superstars saw young players develop. Dayon Henley obviously, tar Heep 114 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: Still and Cam Hart two rookies. I drop Elijah Molden 115 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: into the young categories. So like, you know, I think 116 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: you're when you were able to do that, perform at 117 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: that level and then go on the road in a 118 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: wild card contest force three turnovers. Unfortunately, you know your 119 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: offense only puts up three points off those three turnovers, 120 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: but you provide the offense with three turnovers, Like that's 121 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: if I'm going to take something positive out of that game. 122 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: That and of course lat McConkey is what you're walking 123 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: away with, and that's a pretty good feeling going into 124 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: next year. 125 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you talked about the score money and I 126 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: would always say we'd be after the game. We look 127 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: at stats and we'd be like, well, yeah, he had 128 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: a three pick game, right, But how did he get 129 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: those three picks? Was it where they just lollipops or 130 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: did he really go off leave the hash and go 131 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: get it right? Did he go make an athletic play? 132 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: And you've seen the score, but the score really didn't 133 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: dictate the way the game went. I felt like the 134 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: defense played really good football. Like you said, three turnovers. 135 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: Anytime you have three turnovers, you're nine times you're winning 136 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: the game. Right. Obviously, On the other hand, Herbert didn't 137 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 2: take care of the ball. There was two drops. Obviously 138 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: the will Disley dropped and then one went through Lad's hands. 139 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: I just felt like Herbert wasn't comfortable all night. They 140 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: were getting home with four and anytime you can get 141 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: home with four, you don't have to bring that fifth guy. 142 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: You're getting home with four. Now you're able to drop 143 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: another defender into the zones, into the into the passing lanes. 144 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: And it was they made it really, really muddy, and 145 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: they just pressured Herbert all night long. As far as 146 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: special teams goes special teams, obviously the blocked extra point 147 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 2: that didn't help pun Yeah, the tip but yeah, still 148 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: but it's still like it's still not the groove that 149 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: the spell so teams how they played all year. That's 150 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: why playoff football is so vital, because you have to 151 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 2: play at your best when your best is needed. Yeah, 152 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: and the Chargers just didn't do that. 153 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know in the playoffs. You can speak to 154 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: this better than I can, but the playoffs tend to mirror. 155 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: You need to say mirror, you can say magnify sort 156 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: of what your issues might have been in the regular season. 157 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: And I think offensively you saw some of that. You 158 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: saw the things because, like we said, the defense side 159 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: of the ball was consistent all year long. They didn't allow, 160 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: outside of that wild card game more than twenty points 161 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: to any road team. They allowed fewer than seven points 162 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: and I think twelve games in the first half. So 163 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: like that side was consistent, it delivered. The offense was 164 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: inconsistent this year, you know, And a lot of it 165 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: had to do with injury, A lot of it had 166 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: to do with young players being asked to do a 167 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: lot of it had to do with new coordinator trying 168 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: to install a system, get these guys used to each other. Essentially, 169 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: you have three fifths of the offensive line that's brand 170 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: new because Trey's playing a new position. Takes a while 171 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: for that to gel. So it's understandable that they struggle 172 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season. But I do think 173 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: the thing that we saw sort of raise their hand 174 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: in the regular season were certainly in the spotlight in 175 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: that playoff game. And it starts with Ladd just lighting 176 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: it up, lighting it up every which way he could, 177 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: whether it was with Stingly covering him or Lassiter covering him, 178 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: or him too when they're playing zone. It was sensational. 179 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: And then essentially you have Derek Stinglely tied for the 180 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: second leading receiver with Will Disley with two catches. Like 181 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: that's how rough it was behind Ladd. And that's something 182 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: we talked about all season long, and. 183 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: We talked about it money and we addressed it, and 184 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: Herbert adjusted throughout the year. He didn't complain at all. 185 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: He adjusted. He was finding different targets week in and 186 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: week out. But when you get to the playoffs, that 187 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: was one of the questions, like do you have enough 188 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: on that side, do you have enough weapons for him 189 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: to distribute the ball not only distribute to them, but 190 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: then they catch it and they go make plays right, 191 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: And I think, like you said, it magnified in the 192 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: playoffs to where you've seen listen, that is the one 193 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: area where he didn't have enough target He didn't have 194 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: enough targets. He didn't have enough playmakers at the wide 195 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: receiver position besides Ladd. And it snow shade now because 196 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: I've played the game, I know how hard it is. 197 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: I've been in that fire. I understand the competitive battle, 198 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 2: and these guys are all in the NFL for a reason. 199 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: But at a certain level, if you want to get 200 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: over that hump, if you want to get into the 201 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 2: second round the AFC Championships in the Super Bowl, which 202 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: is everybody's goal, you have to give Herbert a little 203 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: bit more than what you gave him this year. Now, 204 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: does he have to take care of the ball. Yes, 205 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: he's not off the hook for that, right. And he's 206 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 2: not a guy that he's all over, right, And he 207 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: acknowledged that he had three picks off season and then 208 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: had four in one game, So it just wasn't It 209 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: was one of those like a hooper, right, there's nights 210 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 2: where the ball just won't go in the rim, right, 211 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: and it just kind of felt off and that's what 212 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: the playoffs felt like. I did still feel like no 213 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: matter what, although the office was struggling, the defense was 214 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: keeping him in the game. And then just time after time, 215 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: it just slowly. I mean, the pick six hurts, right, so. 216 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: And that's something that we just hadn't really seen from 217 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: him all year, a ball that just sailed on him. 218 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: But like you said, it's they're getting home with four. 219 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: Will Anderson and Daneil Hunter are coming into that game 220 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: arguably the best edge tandem in the league. I mean, 221 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: you're talking about one hundred and twenty combined pressures and 222 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: twenty three combined sacks. And they run games, man, they run, 223 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: and the games got them. And when you're a quarterback, 224 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: and I think this just kind of spins to the 225 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: shade that Herbert's taken from the national media. When you're 226 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: under pressure fifty four percent of your dropbacks and you 227 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: can't and guys aren't there because so you've got pressure 228 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: in your lap and your guys haven't won yet, there's 229 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: really not a lot you can do. So I think 230 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: it's recognizing going back and watching I think, you know, 231 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: I think that the one stat that maybe jumps out 232 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: of a lot of people is zero rushes is zero 233 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: you know, opportunities, because it's felt like that's what happened 234 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: with CJ. Is he was not playing well and it 235 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: was kind of that first run and you saw him 236 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: take that hit and he gets that first down and 237 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: he just kind of saw pop up and he kind 238 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: of had this Okay, let's go, and it was it 239 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: was you could see the team rally. Run was almost 240 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: a little something there. And I know oftentimes, you know, 241 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: when you go through all those playoff games, you'll see 242 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: pretty much every quarterback on the winning side, you know, 243 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: whether it was Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, who of 244 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: course run regularly, but even you know, in the case 245 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: of like we said CJ, like there's all those rushes, 246 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: they're all there. You know, then that's there's there's something 247 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: to that, I think. 248 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: And there is, and I'm gonna touch on two points. 249 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: The rushing. The rushing attack, right, the rushing attack never 250 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: got going in that game. So it was almost like 251 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: her the defensive line had their earspin back. You know, 252 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: we can rush up the field. We don't have to. 253 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: We don't have to stay gaps sound and have gap 254 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: integrity because they're passing we never established the running. 255 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: Game right outside of that first drive, it was like, Okay, this. 256 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: Looks like it's gonna be a great it's gonna be 257 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: like a great afternoon. And then on the other side, Herbert, 258 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: if you know as a quarterback right that your windows 259 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: are small, you're getting pressure. I just feel like I 260 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: wish he ran a little bit more throughout the season. 261 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: That is what he did really well. When things broke down, 262 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 2: or that time clock goes off in your head, every 263 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: quarterback has that time clock one one thousand and two 264 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: one thousand. Okay, now it's time to get out of here. 265 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: And if it's a five yard scamper, that's good. If 266 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: it's a ten yard scamper, that's good. But you're getting 267 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: positive yards, you're not taking a sack, and you're allowing 268 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: the downs to continue to keep going so that your 269 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: offense can possibly get in a rhythm maybe whether it 270 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 2: be screens, whether it be getting back to the run game, 271 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: quick game, double moves, trick plays, whatever it is, but 272 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: you have to keep the driver alive. And I think 273 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 2: that's where it kind of hurt the offense was Herbert 274 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: wasn't really trying to escape the pocket and use his 275 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 2: legs as much as I think he should have. 276 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I think it's important to acknowledge we're 277 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: not trying to relitigate the game. For me, it's more 278 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: spinning it forward, you know, based on what we saw, 279 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: on what was happening out there, how do we envision 280 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: this maybe changing or improving, you know, next year. And look, 281 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: lad had one of the great rookie seasons of all time, 282 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: got games too, and well he broke the record post 283 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: rookie yard receiving yards ever. And you saw someone that 284 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: did not quit, that was in until the end with 285 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: that that that eighty six yard touchdown that he had, 286 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: like and that felt like it put him right back in. 287 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: You know, that's that's what you And for people, it 288 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: was interesting, you know, I do these after the games. 289 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: I'd pop on Instagram live and I'd do these sort 290 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: of whatever live things and they're not huge or any 291 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: but you interact with the people and kind of floored 292 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: me how one of the overwhelmed it was I shouldn't 293 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: say overwhelming, that there was a segment of the people 294 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: watching and commenting that kind of pointed too, well, you know, 295 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: you got to get a better receiver than Lad. If 296 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: this is gonna work, you know, Lad's not. And I'm 297 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: sitting there, I'm like, no, no, no, You're gonna find someone 298 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: to compliment Lab with what we saw this year, the 299 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: way that he plays, what I saw in that game 300 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: against those corners. Understand, you know, Kamari Lassiter and Derek 301 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: Stingley are the number one and number two, like not 302 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: five and six, not twelve and fifteen, one and two 303 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: corners that opponent quarterback had the lowest completion percentage and 304 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: the lowest quarterback ratio. Wan targeting those two guys and 305 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: ladd ate. 306 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 2: Them up and I guarantee you, sorry, money now, I 307 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: guarantee you. Houston went into the game and said, guess 308 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 2: what we're going to set out the only guy that's 309 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: what we're gonna game plan around. We're gonna game plan 310 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: around Lad, and they weren't able to do it almost 311 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: two hundred yards receiving right. And we talked about lastly, 312 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: their former teammates at Georgia, so they know each other 313 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: in and out. And then you talk about Stingley at 314 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: the corner all pro corner. Probably the best conversation is 315 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: the best corter him or ps two Patrick certain the 316 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: second excuse me, So listen, Ladd is the nucleus of 317 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: the receiver corps. You're gonna be able to build around him. Now, 318 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: do you have a Batman? Do you have a Robin? 319 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: Do you have somebody who compliments him? Yes, you need 320 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: a guy on the outside as a Z or an X, yes, 321 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: but Ladd is the guy right now in the receiving 322 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: court and he will be for a long time in 323 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: this franchise. 324 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's for people like, well, he's in 325 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: the slot and he's not an X and it's okay, Well, 326 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: what's CD Lamb? The CD Lamb an elite? Is he 327 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: a top five receiver in the league? And are the 328 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys in explosive offense with him? Yeah, he's a slot guy. 329 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: He operates them majority of his snaps out of the slide. 330 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: You can do it. So you know, you said, is 331 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: it a Batman Robin? It's Batman Superman. I'd love to 332 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: see a Batman Superman situation, a Jamar Chase T. Higgins style, 333 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: a DeVante Smith, a J. Brown stop. Look, you can 334 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: have different. It's they always say when it comes to 335 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: wide receivers. I shouldn't say they always say, I want 336 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: to say. I think it was Brian Billick who I 337 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: heard say at first, but he said, you want to 338 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: build a basketball team. He's like, that's the key to 339 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: the most effective wide receiver. Room. Give me a power forward, 340 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: Give me a three and D guy, Give me that 341 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: wing that's got the long, you know arms and is 342 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: super wiring in athletic. And then give me the point guard. 343 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: Give me the guy that can kind of get everything 344 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: set in. And that's that's Lad. You know, Lad is 345 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: the dominant point guard style wide receiver. Can they go 346 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: out and find a power forward, No doubt that. 347 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: That's that's something Probably they will. 348 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: Exactly, that would be my guess. So I just point 349 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: out because maybe it's the way he looks. Maybe it's 350 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: the position that he plays that leads to people not 351 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: thinking the Chargers have a number one wide receiver. They do. 352 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: That was absolutely settled. I think you can go through. 353 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: I think I don't remember who did. I might have 354 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: been Barnwell, I think who did it. Who did his 355 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: all rookie team and he had Brian Thomas as his 356 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: number one rookie receiver, and well he had three receivers. 357 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: You know you're you're because that's what most people play now, 358 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: right as eleven personnel. So Thomas McConkie neighbors, that's the 359 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: order you put it in. So Marvin Harrison, Junr, not 360 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: Roma Duns, but lad in that conversation with those guys 361 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: who had elite campaigns as well, and it's much easier 362 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: now to find a compliment than to find a leader. 363 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 364 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. So the other thing that you know, I think 365 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: we can probably spend I don't know how much more 366 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: you want to spend on the Texans game. I think 367 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: it's it's I'll say this though, you know, someone who's 368 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: embedded with the team and gets to travel with the team, 369 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: like I have not been around like a more. I 370 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: don't want to say like I don't I don't know 371 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: if confident and it's the right word, but just this 372 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: belief was permeating from this group at the hotel over 373 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: those two days. You could just see it the way 374 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: they walk, the bounce they had in their step, the energy. 375 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: I spent more time on the field before that game 376 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: than I have any other game I've been to, just 377 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: because it was infectious. You could see it on the 378 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: faces of the coaches, on the players, and you know, 379 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: I try to just keep it as straight as possible 380 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: just it helps me call the game where I don't 381 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: feel like I want to get too emotionally invested, like yeah, 382 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, I can see the positives from the Texans, 383 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: but it was you know, I caught it, like I 384 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: ended up catching it because of how much they believed 385 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: and even though it didn't work out. It's the first 386 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: time I felt that since I've been here, you know, 387 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: since twenty seventeen, where there was just this collective belief 388 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: pulling the rope in the same direction everyone truly, and 389 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: I know Coach said it earlier this week in the 390 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: press areas we went into this tournament believing that we 391 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: were as good as you know, the best teams in 392 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: the tournament, and that we had a chance to really 393 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: do something. And that's not lip service. I absolutely felt 394 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: that being around this team those two days. 395 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 2: And it's funny you say that because in twenty eighteen, 396 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: being a leader on the team at that time, that's 397 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: how we felt going into Foxborough against Tom Brady just 398 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: went to Baltimore and beat Lamar with seven DB's and 399 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: we literally, I mean, there was not one guy on 400 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: the team when guy in the locker room. I mean, 401 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: even the janitors knew that we had the confidence to 402 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 2: go into Foxborough and upset Brady at the time. And 403 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: guess what, it didn't happen. Right, We went in there 404 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: with a good game plan. We had all the confidence 405 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: in the world. Nobody was pointing fingers, nobody felt any 406 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: kind of way like it wasn't like it wasn't possible. 407 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: And like you said, I agree with you, though I 408 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: felt I wasn't around the team, but I can see, 409 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 2: I can feel, I know the guys. I talked to 410 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: the guys. They were confident. And guess what, it just 411 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 2: did not happen. It wasn't the Chargers day. That day, 412 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 2: the Texans played better football. Tip your hat to them. 413 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: They played a better game all three phases. And the 414 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: thing about the playoffs is you can't have it off night, 415 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: you can't have an off day, right, it's win or 416 00:18:58,680 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: go home. 417 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'd love to ask the question. I know 418 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: you probably don't want to get too deep into it, 419 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: but because look, it was a successful year, right, it 420 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: was a weird year. Twelve and four gets you what 421 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: a wild card birth? You know, it just so happened 422 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: that you know, the Chiefs end up winning a tiebreaker 423 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: in that that I think it was right, didn't they 424 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: have twelve? I think it was twelve and four two? Yeah, 425 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: they just happened to win the tiebreaker. But I don't know. 426 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure you remember this. So we're sitting in the 427 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: booth and coin toss, Patriots win, and it's Bill Belichick. 428 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: You know what they do. So I would assume you 429 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: see the Patriots win and you turn around and you 430 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: start walking to the bench because you know the offense 431 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: is going to be on the field. When they said 432 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: we'll receive DJ and I looked at each other and 433 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: we were like, oh no, it was disrespect. It's like, 434 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: I was like, what did they find? What did they see? 435 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: Like this is not this is not what we're used to. 436 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh, something's going on here, Like 437 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: they feel like they found something and I don't know 438 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: what it is because this is not how it works 439 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: with the Patriots. 440 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 2: It probably was that we had seventy b's on the 441 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 2: field and base and me and Adrian Phillips were playing 442 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: linebacker at the time, and they felt like they can 443 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: they could run twenty one personnel against the personnel ran 444 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 2: it and then screened, ran it, screened, then ran it 445 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: play action over the top of grounk. So they kind 446 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 2: of they might have felt, you know, we were down, 447 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: and we were down players, we were injured on the 448 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 2: defensive side, were holding on by a tooth and a nail. 449 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: But we were confident, dude, We didn't care. We knew 450 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: they were coming out in twenty one twenty two. It's 451 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 2: just listen. Uh, you have a mic and a will linebacker. 452 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: The biggest guy was during at the at the strong 453 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: safety and he was about two twenty at the time. 454 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: So it just is what it is. It it worked 455 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: out how it worked out. But I remember that game, dude. 456 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: It was It was really intense. It was cold at 457 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: crap that. 458 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: It was very cool getting rid of the ball, Like, yeah, 459 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: it was quick. Getting there was a moment because you know, 460 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: the booth is running the fifty yard line and it's 461 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: just at the top of the first section, so it's 462 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: truly like the best perspective you could possibly have to 463 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: see everything. It's like it's almost like having all twenty 464 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: two one zoom right in front of you and you 465 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: could see in about like the mid second quarter. How frustrated. 466 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: Joey was I was just gonna. 467 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: Winning and he's winning his one on ones and he's 468 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: right there and the ball's just gone. 469 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. He came back to the sideline saying that I like, 470 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: I can't get home. It's impossibly soon as I make 471 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 2: a move, the balls out And that's what they were 472 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: hitting us with their run quick game screens, pops over 473 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: the top. He would not let our rush get home. 474 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: It was crazy, like if you were to you know, 475 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: PFF for you know, they have a tool called you know, 476 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 1: b D beats to beat defender, you know, and Joey's 477 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: would have been like it ninety percent. I mean, he 478 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: was wrecking that tackle and it just doesn't matter because 479 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: the ball was gone. You got good memory, ye, well, 480 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: you know some of those moments. And I also remember, 481 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: you know the Baltimore game the week before. Was it 482 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: was it Morning Wig? Who was their O C. I 483 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: think it was right. I'm pretty sure Marty was their 484 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: OC at that time. It wasn't Greg wrong, It was 485 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: wasn't really Rose zero. I guess it was. 486 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: I'm like, because I gave him some crap about it 487 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: when I see it summer, I did just a little bit. 488 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: They're not gonna run it, just gonna just keep throwing it. 489 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: Like really, they're just gonna They're just gonna keep throwing. 490 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: Over with sevn DB's on the food gone and they 491 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: and they just they did. 492 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: And it worked out. So hey, you know, ended on 493 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: a positive note there, you know, big victory in Baltimore. 494 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: And by the way, those people, all of their staff, 495 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: media people that work for the team, they were walking 496 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: around the press box with their chest puffed out like, 497 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: oh yeah, you remember what we did you on Saturday night. 498 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's a nice, nice season for you guys. 499 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: You know, good effort, really really some interesting wins out there, 500 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: and love to see Philip win, but maybe next year. 501 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: And then Philip the first down, yes, exact iconic exactly right, 502 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: Chenna and uh and during with huge plays and that 503 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: game is rookies. 504 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: It was. 505 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: It was a fun year and I think it's important 506 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: to went out that yes it's a one and done, 507 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: you're the first playoff game of the weekend, which makes 508 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: it sting even more. But I think it's important to 509 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: keep it in perspective kind of what was built and 510 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: so why don't we shift to that and I'll start 511 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: with with Georgie's and what's expected moving forward based on 512 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: what we've now seen in his first year, after you know, 513 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: two decades plus in a supporting role to now have 514 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: the keys to build it his own way. And when 515 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: you talk about showing up to a spot that is 516 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars over the cap, that has got 517 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: bloated contracts that you have to convince guys to restructure 518 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: if you're going to be able to keep them around 519 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: that you have some guys that are willing to do 520 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: that because you make your pitch and I feel like, 521 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: you know, it paid off that the fact that Khalil 522 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: and Joey took the pick cut and said, trust us, 523 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: we're going to get you in the tournament and see 524 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: if we can get you win here. That didn't work out, 525 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: but I'm sure they're happy with their decision and what 526 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: they were able to be part of this year. Are 527 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: the guys that weren't willing to do that, they move 528 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: on and then you have to plug holes. And with 529 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: what he had to work with, I mean, I don't 530 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: know how you give anything below an a plus to 531 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: what joe was able to put together with Chad, Alexander 532 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: and with his whole staff, with the limited resources they 533 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: have to find, Punaford and tier Tart and Elijah Molden 534 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: and Christian Fold. The list just goes on. And JK. 535 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: Dobbins like, I remember we said, you know, in the 536 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: preseason when we were out here for training camp. I know, 537 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: I remember we were sitting in front of the bolt 538 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: and we were talking about it, and I said, it 539 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: was one of us that brought it up, where we said, look, 540 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: if you can just hit on fifty percent of these guys, 541 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: if you just said I'm fifty percent of them, you 542 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: got a chance to get into the playoffs. 543 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all you got to do. 544 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: You don't have all of them, don't have to work. 545 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: But if you can get fifty percent of these one 546 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: year deals, then you got a chance to at least 547 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: get to that nine to ten win plateau. And I'll 548 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: be darned if not just those guys, but the guys 549 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: he ended up picking as he turned the roster throughout 550 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: the course of the season he did, it felt like 551 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: you hit. I mean you're talking about getting like at 552 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: least an a minus on what you hit with every 553 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: one of those deals. 554 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: And what's more impressive with that situation is a lot 555 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: of times general managers and coaches are not on the 556 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: same accord, right, Right, So a general manager must know 557 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 2: what kind of offensive scheme, defensive scheme and special team 558 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 2: schemes that the coaches run, so they can go and say, 559 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: you know what, yes, this guy might be the best 560 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: on the board, but he doesn't fit our system more 561 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: he does, right, And I think that's what Joe Ortiz 562 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: and Chad and his group has done a really good job. 563 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 2: Is they understand Jim Harbow's way, they understand the scheme 564 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: of Jesse Minner, they understand the scheme of zero, they 565 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: understand what they look for in players, right, so they 566 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: were able to go out fish those guys and be like, 567 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 2: you know what, just not because he's a big name, 568 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: it's because he fits our scheme and what they believe 569 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: in and what we're trying to do right, not only 570 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: physically mentally but as a person. Right, No cancers in 571 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: the locker room, good guys, upbeat, very positive. So I 572 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: tipped my hat to those guys. Yeah. 573 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: And I think the other piece of that is the draft, 574 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,959 Speaker 1: And think about the narrative surrounding the draft. How much pressure. 575 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: You let Mike Williams go, you trade Keenan Allen, and 576 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: you've got Justin Herbert back there on a two hundred 577 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: and sixty million dollar contract. And there was so much 578 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: outside external pressure from the national media about drafting a weapon. 579 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: You've got to get a weapon. You're sitting right there 580 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: at five, Marvin Harrison, jun your Molik neighbors. One of 581 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: those two is got and they stayed on point. They 582 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: stayed on message. They didn't care. They drafted Joe Alt. 583 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: Joe Alt's a Pro Bowl level tackle already after one year, 584 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: you saw what it happened, and we had to flipped 585 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: to the left side when when Rashaan went down in 586 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: warm ups and it was just like nothing once he 587 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: didn't allow a single pressure of the game. And then 588 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: you're you get the weapon in the second round. Like 589 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: the fact that you hit on your one and your 590 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: two to the level they did. Those guys will be 591 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: on the All Rookie team tackle. You know, Alt is 592 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: the tackle and Ladd as a wide receiver. And then 593 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: you find these gems later in the draft. You know 594 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: in those two fifth round corners, and not to mention, 595 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: you're able to maneuver and you move up to get 596 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: your guy, and you still get someone in the fifth 597 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: round after dropping twenty seven spots in Tarheed. Still, so 598 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: you have a full compliment of picks, and you would 599 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: assume you're building things toward that comp pick formula. That 600 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean, just look at what the Ravens did today 601 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: because they're so good at it, claiming freaking Deontay Johnson 602 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: just so they can get a comp pick and Casey 603 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: signs somewhere else for a solid deal. Like that's that's 604 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: chess man. You just said, that's what it is, and 605 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: that's I'm excited to see what Joe and his staff 606 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: can do with a second draft class. With now kind 607 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: of getting a better feeling having been in this in 608 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: the in the facility around the players, know what they have, 609 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: knowing what we have, knowing what works, what your coaches 610 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: are looking for and trades. It is like you now 611 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: have that year experience. I'm very excited about what they're 612 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: able to do in the draft. And obviously, on top 613 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: of that, instead of being thirty five million over, you're 614 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: seventy seven under. And that number can grow as well. 615 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: You can grow and it can grow based on releasing, trading, 616 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: or whatnot. Right, So, like you said, for them to 617 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: be successful and do what they did draft wise, free 618 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 2: agent wise, and like you said, even to the end 619 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: the last game of the season, they were turning the 620 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: bottom of that roster and he was going to get 621 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: guys you know, they tell you that you know, not 622 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: guys that you know who was this signing or who 623 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: was this signing and just to fill the bubble. No, 624 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 2: he was going to get guys that are they have 625 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: names and can really really get up there and put 626 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: a good foot forward to help the team win. So 627 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: I was impressed. I was truly impressed by Georitis in 628 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: his group. They did a really good job all season long, 629 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: pre draft, post draft, throughout the season shuffling guys and 630 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 2: making things work and being on one to one cord. 631 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 2: I keep saying it with the coaching staff and the 632 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: front office because a lot of times it can go 633 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 2: this way, they can go opposite, and they were together 634 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: and you've seen it work. 635 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you as you look at the draft, 636 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, and we'll be out at the combine doing 637 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: Chargers weekly out there, very excited about that, just like 638 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: we were last year dropping daily shows. I think three 639 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: four days of conversations down there, but it's it's you know, 640 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: you never know, right, they have no idea what the 641 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: draft is going to produce. But based on how these 642 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: guys evaluate, finding you know, players that fit what they 643 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: want to do that can be productive. So Coach Harbaugh 644 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: and his staff this year, you know, I do the 645 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: games with Daniel Jeremiah. He's the best in the business, 646 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: I think in terms of that what he does at 647 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: NFL Network as their lead scout and their lead draft analyst. 648 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: It's a defensive end year, it's a tight end year, 649 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: it's a corner year. Like it's it lays out really 650 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: well for the Bolts and maybe just kind of the 651 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: way they need to create depth and build this roster. 652 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: So that's a positive. And I thought something, I do 653 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: want to acknowledge the players that are on the roster 654 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: because I don't think it was lip service and I 655 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: don't think it was just a you know, unicorns and 656 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: confetti answer. I think it's accurate. 657 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: You know. 658 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: Coach talked about what's this roster going to look like 659 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: next year, and he said, I hope it looks almost 660 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: identical to what we had because every guy got better. 661 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: And I think that's the absolute truth. And we often, 662 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, Julia, we only do that typically in college. 663 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, can this guy develop talent? Can you 664 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: bring in the five stars and tournament too first round 665 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: draft picks? Or do you bring in five stars and 666 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: they turn into two stars by the time they leave. 667 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: But that's the case in the NFL as well. Can 668 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: you take Dane Henley who couldn't find the field last 669 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 1: year for whatever reason with that staff and turn him 670 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: into a pro bowler? And the answers, yes. Can you 671 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: take Elijah Molden who was a discard from Tennessee and 672 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: turn them into a legitimate bona fide top half off 673 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: maybe top ten in the league, high safety in the entry. Yes, 674 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: Like this team got better week after week, especially with 675 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: the young players. The younger players and how they developed. 676 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: Man, you heard coach say that he didn't he didn't 677 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: really think that there would be much changing in the 678 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 2: coaching staff as well, so he's trying to keep everything 679 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: in house. The coaches did a really good job of 680 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: establishing the players and getting these players better, right to teach, 681 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: to educate, to motivate, and to have them get out 682 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 2: there and understand the system. In the first year, and 683 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: the assistant coaches did a really good job. The position 684 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: coaches did a really good job. Just everybody under this 685 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: building is really just tied in one and they understand 686 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: the vision of Coach Harball. They understand the vision, they 687 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: understand what he expects. And it's hard to get certain 688 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: people that come in from outside in to do that 689 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 2: each and every year. So when you find coaches, when 690 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: you find players who have bought into what you're selling, 691 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: bought into what you're telling them, it's you don't want 692 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: to let him out the building because you're building a coach. 693 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: Every time. People always say the Belichick way or the 694 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: Patriot way. Right, that's a certain thing, right, it's the 695 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: here and he loves how the guys are accepting him, 696 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: how they're accepting his coaching, players and coaches. 697 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: And look, money'll talk and it could change, but it's 698 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: a two way street. You know, when they did open 699 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: locker room on Sunday, and I'd encourage all you if 700 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: you're watching this at Chargers dot com, just click on 701 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: that video tab and go through all those conversations from 702 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: all those different players. I mean, you're talking about Elijah Molden, 703 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: who's probably going to have a market out there. I 704 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: want to come back. This is this the most fun 705 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: I have had playing football professionally. You've got Rashaan Slater 706 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: talking about Justin Herbert. That's my That's that's it. That's who. 707 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: That's the only quarterback I want to block four. And 708 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: that's that goes a long way because if you're trying 709 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: to structure something and say, listen, we're gonna make you 710 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: a whole, but can we do it this way instead 711 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: and that way? Because then we can bring this piece 712 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: and drop it it. That's that's how you can get 713 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: sort of next level roster building. If you build a 714 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: culture that players and agents say, yeah, this is the 715 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: best for my client, this is this is the best 716 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: for me hometown discount exactly. And it's and I think 717 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: the key nowadays with the way that you can get 718 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: creative is it you don't even have to give a discount. 719 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: It's just hey, can we give you less here and 720 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: more here? And I'll make you good here so I 721 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: can because I can go out and get this guy 722 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: that they're not going to franchise again, and we're gonna 723 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: PLoP him in. 724 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,239 Speaker 2: And that's and you want to win yes, and that's 725 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: the biggest thing being a former player. Yes, obviously I've 726 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: signed four different contracts. Money is what it is in 727 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: the NFL. But at the end of the day, when 728 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: you lose week in and week out, it is not fun, right. 729 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: What makes this job fun is obviously you be able 730 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: to take care of your family, your loved ones, but 731 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: winning with your brothers, winning with your coaches, those those 732 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: plane rides, those flights the locker room. That's what makes 733 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: the NFL and this experience so special is when you 734 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: get out there for one common goal. It's so hard 735 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 2: to win in this league with the best players in 736 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 2: the world, and you go out there and you get 737 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: a win. That's what makes everything worth it. 738 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: We'll finish with this when you say those plane rides, 739 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: will kind of go back to your plane. When I 740 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: say the name Mike Win, Mike, what do you think 741 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: about those plane rides. 742 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: He's legendary, He's the goat man, He's he gets everybody excited. Obviously, 743 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: a good spirited guy, one of my favorite, really good 744 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: spirit man. You brought a smile to my face with 745 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: Mike went Man. I hope he's doing well. Absolutely him 746 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 2: In a while, Philly chees steak too. Man. Phil was 747 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: a character on those rides Watch the Best. He was 748 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: a character on those flights back. 749 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: Man. 750 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: He would give you crap about a good play a 751 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 2: bad play, but when it's a win, Man, it doesn't 752 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: matter the film session the next day or the next 753 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: two days, you get beat. It's slap on the wrist. 754 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: Some of my uh feel was cool because he would 755 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: he would roll up and down. You know, it's a 756 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: weird that that I don't want to get too into it, 757 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: but like just the way the plane was configured is 758 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: it sort of led to a little bit more interaction. 759 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: And so I would always find myself in the galley 760 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: with him, typically on the flight home, and it. 761 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: Was it was the best. 762 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: It was such a great culture. And that's what you're 763 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: talking to when you have a good group of dudes. 764 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: And that's what this group feels like, people that really 765 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: like being around each other, playing for each other. And 766 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: I think that's what maybe people forget when you think, oh, 767 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: it's just money and stuff. That may be the case 768 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: in baseball and maybe the case in basketball. Football's too 769 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: punishing a sport. It takes too much of a toll 770 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: on your physical well being to just say, oh, I'm 771 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: going to go here and I'm going to go four 772 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: and thirteen and that's fine with me because I'm going 773 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: to make an extra three hundred grand a year. 774 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 2: It doesn't. 775 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way. It doesn't in the NFL. 776 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: It's it's been like I said, because you have if 777 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: you have a good general manager and a good assistant 778 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: GM like we have here, and somebody like Ed maguire 779 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: that knows how to make these things work so tractually 780 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: you can make somebody whole while still keeping the team 781 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, in a good spot to build. So we're 782 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: looking forward to it again. If you haven't checked it out, 783 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: hit that video tab at Chargers dot com see all 784 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: the open locker room interviews. Get a vibe of how everybody, 785 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: how the players felt about this season, how they feel 786 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: about moving forward. It'd be sure to suck back the 787 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: forty five minutes of Coach Harbaugh and Joe Ortiz. It's 788 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: kind of the end of the season. It's our season rap, 789 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's also I think there 790 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: should be excitement about what's happening with this team moving forward. 791 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 2: Julie, I agree with you. Mine, I appreciate you. 792 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. All right, everybody Bolt Up. Will be 793 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: back next week. Yes, we will continue to Charlee's Weekly 794 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: every single week throughout the offseason, so stay tuned for 795 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: our next episode.