Speaker 1: What's going on to boy Willie north Pole. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: You got to check me out right now. On the
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Speaker 1: Man Special guessing here my guy representing as maybe first
Speaker 1: time here but first time yes Z what up? Man represent? Okay,
Speaker 1: So we gott to.
Speaker 2: Talk about So this album you just dropped is your
Speaker 2: first album and how.
Speaker 1: Long fifteen years? Man? So this is the first album
Speaker 1: since to Connect Jesus fifteen years. I you know, I
Speaker 1: had to get inspired. Man. You know I never stopped recording, right,
Speaker 1: You're always recording, and I feel like never stopped being around.
Speaker 1: I'm a true you know, I write, you know, that's
Speaker 1: what I do. I've been recording since I was a kid.
Speaker 1: But as far as you know, just you know I needed,
Speaker 1: I didn't have nothing. It wasn't no motivation to you know,
Speaker 1: drop this. And you know the game is like double Dutch.
Speaker 1: You know, you got to know when to come in,
Speaker 1: no when to come out. You know there's new, you know,
Speaker 1: but what I'm representing right now, it's just basically bars right.
Speaker 1: So we're back.
Speaker 2: So for people who don't know man, obviously from my hometown,
Speaker 2: you're kind of like, Yo, there was this era of
Speaker 2: Arizona hip hop, which is was so crazy because it felt.
Speaker 1: Like we made it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was when you signed with DTP hot Rod,
Speaker 2: who's not necessarily from Arizona. It was more it was Sacramento. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but at the time he was kind of banging easy.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: He signed a G unit. You were a part of.
Speaker 2: I know you were kind of close with with with
Speaker 2: Rod and Juice signed with the Game. All these things
Speaker 2: happened kind of within the same I don't know year
Speaker 2: and a half or so.
Speaker 1: That was a crazy time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it felt like, oh shits got some sho
Speaker 2: But the.
Speaker 1: Whole hot Rod situation happened first.
Speaker 2: No, the hot Rod thing happened because I remember you
Speaker 2: were like I was, I was riding with you, were
Speaker 2: with him at fifty They started hating on Rod, who
Speaker 2: was hating man A lot of people in Arizona.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, I was like, no, were you his? Were
Speaker 1: you hot Rods? Arizona protection at that time, I was,
Speaker 1: I want to say protection, but I was becoming that
Speaker 1: because you know, we started off on rough terms. Remember
Speaker 1: I did the garbage disposal. Yes, I dissed everybody, right
Speaker 1: This was before I was my brother. At this time,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know Rod. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He did a disc record. He was the only one
Speaker 1: who responded. The niggas was scared, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Rod responded, Uh, he called me something in the record.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, the B word. I ended
Speaker 1: up At that time, I didn't. I didn't know that's
Speaker 1: how this record, you know whatever. So I was taking it,
Speaker 1: you know, a person, So I called him. I actually
Speaker 1: had a conversation with him, and you know, started off rough,
Speaker 1: but we ended up getting cool. Right, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: leave it at that. This was before all the hype,
Speaker 1: So this was this was when he was working at
Speaker 1: a call center. Was like, this is before fifty cent
Speaker 1: even existed in our lives. So hold on, let me yeah,
Speaker 1: this oh six, because I just dropped Garbag's Disposal, And
Speaker 1: for the record, Garbage Disposal was a record where I
Speaker 1: kind of aimed at every artists.
Speaker 2: Who all, did you disc from Arizona back then? Just
Speaker 2: so we I can age myself so I know who
Speaker 2: was relevant enough to be anybody who had at list?
Speaker 1: Did anybody who had anybody who had a name Hatlas
Speaker 1: and all these dudes is my brother, by the way,
Speaker 1: So I'm not trying to you know, did you just
Speaker 1: iraq Irock is the only one that didn't get it?
Speaker 1: I rock from my hood. Uh did Magic get it?
Speaker 1: EMC Magic got it? Uh ninety eight, ninety two point three,
Speaker 1: even got it? Bro survivalist, Survivalist got it. Bookie got it.
Speaker 1: And this Bookie my brother right book so this but
Speaker 1: but Bookie understood. Out of everybody, Bookie understood what was
Speaker 1: what you were doing? He understood because I had a
Speaker 1: cousin in the camp at the time to come on day.
Speaker 1: He was an R and B singer over there with them.
Speaker 1: So trying to think who was cracking back there? Everybody
Speaker 1: a poke poke Apollo, follow the white dude and that's
Speaker 1: my bro too. We all cool? What was up?
Speaker 2: What was the the ballheaded white boy?
Speaker 1: Mega? He was? He wasn't. I don't think the legend
Speaker 1: just coming up right under the next generation, even though
Speaker 1: we kind of the same age. He was kind of
Speaker 1: coming up. But what was uh shout to him? There
Speaker 1: was that whole like but those those were the main
Speaker 1: rappers that I dissed at the time, and at that time,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, full life records. They was killing it,
Speaker 1: you know what i mean, survivalist. So anyway, it's hot.
Speaker 1: Ride responded. I don't know why, but I ended up
Speaker 1: getting at him on some whatever ship and he pulled
Speaker 1: up to the studio actually, and he came to my studio.
Speaker 1: He came to salt my studio. He actually had on
Speaker 1: his call shiner clothes and everything fully dressed. Was it?
Speaker 1: He Tellcare? Was it? He Tellcare? He was working at
Speaker 1: I think it was, uh Tellcare was cracking everybody, and
Speaker 1: you're trying to you know what I'm saying. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: this was the real thing. You know, this was really
Speaker 1: like we was. We were just normal kids at this time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so he came to
Speaker 1: the studio. We met. This is after we we squashed
Speaker 1: our beef whatever. By the week lady. He called me.
Speaker 1: He's like, man, fifty called me. Man. I'm like what
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, man, he told me to quit my job.
Speaker 1: I'm like word, He's like yeah, man, I'm going out there.
Speaker 1: I'm like, get the fuck out of he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: he want to talk to you too. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here. Because you don't even
Speaker 1: know him, right, I don't even know Rod like that,
Speaker 1: But this is how the universe worked. You get what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, to get us together, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So he ended up getting signed to fifty. I ended
Speaker 1: up getting that call I was waiting for from fifty cent, right,
Speaker 1: and then you ended up hanging out in his mansion.
Speaker 1: And Yeah, fifty called me the next day like he
Speaker 1: said he would. We talked on the phone for We
Speaker 1: talked on the phone so long. I was like, Yo, bro,
Speaker 1: I want to keep you on the phone this long.
Speaker 1: I was. He was so goddamn cool when he was talking.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: want a new g unit you know, have you and
Speaker 1: Rob blah. But he had this whole plan for me
Speaker 1: riding Carnegie m You get what I'm saying. Carnegie, rest
Speaker 1: the piece Carnegie. That's who gave me the body marked
Speaker 1: up record Crazy Carnegie. Rest in peace to him, Carnegie
Speaker 1: because he didn't have no tattoos. Yeah, so RP Carnegie.
Speaker 1: So anyways, uh, rockets to fifty cent house. Fifty give
Speaker 1: me a call. He fled me out. I didn't believe it. Man,
Speaker 1: I get there first night in fifty cents house. Right,
Speaker 1: you can't fight in this house. You can't can't bring
Speaker 1: girls over there. You do know that type of shit
Speaker 1: which is no normal. Yeah, Yo, getting a fight. It's
Speaker 1: my first experience in fifties house. Yo, getting a fight.
Speaker 1: The first night I get there, he's fighting some dude
Speaker 1: in the house named Hove. Uh, they're fighting. I don't
Speaker 1: know what if. I don't know if it was over
Speaker 1: fifty center whatever. Well I'm not saying like that, but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they were fighting over something that had
Speaker 1: to do with fifty Hole was the babysitter of the house.
Speaker 1: So I see this situation kind of. I haven't met
Speaker 1: fifty when I got there, he wasn't there yet. Next
Speaker 1: morning he has an intercom and all he has a
Speaker 1: conference phone in all of the rooms. I was staying
Speaker 1: in his son's room. It's about fifteen rooms. Mike Tyson
Speaker 1: old match. Yeah, it's in what like Connecticut? Yeah, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I think it's Hartford, Hartford, by Hartford, Yes, by Harford.
Speaker 1: He called six o'clock in the morning, who's in my house?
Speaker 1: Whoever's in my house? Coming to the conference room. We all
Speaker 1: go to the conference room. Bro, I swear to God,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to I don't want to rush your
Speaker 1: story because it was I gotta be detailed. Of course,
Speaker 1: it gets fucking detailed. Bro. We're get in the conference
Speaker 1: and were sitting at the table just like, this is
Speaker 1: my first night at fifties house. Remember holing old boy
Speaker 1: getting fight? Yo. Were all sitting here. Fifty walks in.
Speaker 1: First time, he has on the hoodie. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: everybody's scared of him. So I'm not saying nothing, and
Speaker 1: they say, hey, what's up. I'm here, you know none
Speaker 1: of that. He looked at Yao Yo, he like, what's up?
Speaker 1: What happened? He looked at whole hole, didn't say nothing.
Speaker 1: He's like, what happened? Then? Yao was like, son called
Speaker 1: me a pussy or something. They had a fight in
Speaker 1: a swimming pool. It was they had fifty had a
Speaker 1: pool inside of his house. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Uh Hold threw a chair at ya Yo. Yao caught
Speaker 1: the fucking chair like superman. Yo had a cast on
Speaker 1: his arm because he stabbed his He stabbed himself the
Speaker 1: night before, cutting the hole in his Louisa Tom belt.
Speaker 1: So he caught. So it was all kind of shit
Speaker 1: going on in this nigga's house my first night. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So fifty in Yao's having to
Speaker 1: talk back and forth. He says, old boy calls him
Speaker 1: a pussy as fifties talking to Yao, I swear to God.
Speaker 1: He puts his hand on the big glass window like
Speaker 1: Tony Montana like this. He said, what's the rules of
Speaker 1: fighting in my house? Yao is like, there's no fighting
Speaker 1: in your house. He said, do you think you're exempted?
Speaker 1: I swear to God here. I swear to God all
Speaker 1: my life. The niggas said you think you exempt Yeah?
Speaker 1: He was like no. He said Monday, I'm calling Jimmy.
Speaker 1: You're going to geffing and walked out. I swear to God. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm like, who the fuck is Jimmy? Who the fuck
Speaker 1: is geffing? That's what happened with the game, right, he
Speaker 1: ended up going toff So fifty walk out of the room.
Speaker 1: We have girls, we have all kinds of people at
Speaker 1: we we don't even know who's at this table. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there, so I'm not remember I'm the new guy.
Speaker 1: So now we're sitting here for about an hour. Everybody's
Speaker 1: scared to talk. It's about thirty minutes after fifty walk
Speaker 1: out exaggerated and I finally said something. I was like,
Speaker 1: it's the meeting over. I was like, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1: Then everybody got it. That shit crazy. That was like
Speaker 1: my first experience in fifty house. It was cool, though.
Speaker 2: So you end up because hot Rode ends up signing
Speaker 2: with g UNIT.
Speaker 1: Be Easy comes out with Mary J. Blige, which was
Speaker 1: pretty cool to have. I was in that video. Yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody from Azy have a song Mary J Blige. It
Speaker 1: was fucking pretty wild.
Speaker 2: But then you end up signing to DTP right around
Speaker 2: the time the Super bowls coming to Arizona. Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: And then yeah, so how did you because because I'm
Speaker 2: assuming fifty wanted to sign you, and then.
Speaker 1: It's a transition. I'm going, now you want to transit,
Speaker 1: I gotta give you more shit, Okay, go ahead. So
Speaker 1: at this time I'm fully g UNIT. You can't say no.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about no other labels. I'm
Speaker 1: dis in game. I'm excited, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying of really I'm riding for g on it,
Speaker 1: right I'm living in fifties house. I just had a manager,
Speaker 1: my manager, Tiffany, that's right now. She started one of
Speaker 1: the management things. So she started asking me to send
Speaker 1: me clothes and things like that to fifties house because
Speaker 1: I was getting free shit. So I just had to
Speaker 1: asked fifty I'm like, yo, can I get my manager
Speaker 1: wants to send you know, materials to the house or whatever?
Speaker 1: He said, Cool. Do I send it to the junior
Speaker 1: at office or do I send it to your house?
Speaker 1: He said, send it to the house. Cool. We're all
Speaker 1: in the studio, me us a guy named Maserati Fox.
Speaker 1: I actually talk about this song. It's called the Story
Speaker 1: on my Connect album. I actually talked it was a guy,
Speaker 1: Maserati Fox, Rest in peace. He passed away. By the way.
Speaker 1: Mazi was a fool. This was fifties number one. He
Speaker 1: just got a prison for murder, all kind of shit.
Speaker 1: So as soon as he got out, he came straight
Speaker 1: to the junior house, which we're all sharing the spot.
Speaker 1: We're just the Arizona dudes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So me and Mazzi click Maserati Fox clip. He was
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair. He was riding fifty rtvs hit his
Speaker 1: leg or something. So he's in a wheelchair. So at
Speaker 1: this time we're beefing with Fat Joe all these cats.
Speaker 1: So whenever shit was going on, I'm pushing Maserati Fox
Speaker 1: in a wheelchairs, you know what I mean. Like we
Speaker 1: were cool at this time, but one time we were
Speaker 1: all in the studio in New York or Connecticut. I
Speaker 1: get a call. My little brother needs a ride to work,
Speaker 1: just to ride to work from Phoenix. Right. I called
Speaker 1: one of my little side pieces, Yo, can you get
Speaker 1: my brother. He's gonna be downstairs. Da da da dah.
Speaker 1: I'm organizing his ride to work for my little brother.
Speaker 1: I get off the phone. Fox said, Yo, you're selling
Speaker 1: drugs in fifty house. I said what He's like, you're
Speaker 1: selling drugs in fifty house. I said, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? He said, I heard you blah blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: you know, saying go downstairs and shit. I said, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just He said, yo, if you try, I said.
Speaker 1: He said, if you're selling drugs out of fifty house,
Speaker 1: he'll send you past Arizona. That's what he said, right,
Speaker 1: I said, man, I was just trying to get my
Speaker 1: little brother a rod to work whatever. So I'm not
Speaker 1: even thinking about this conversation at all. Right, get a
Speaker 1: phone call. We got to go to Eminem's video shoot.
Speaker 1: It was the first time him and fifty did a song.
Speaker 1: Who Won It with cash Is? I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember that?
Speaker 2: Look, yeah that was that was on the Shady Records album.
Speaker 1: We flew out there Detroit two day video shoot.
Speaker 2: Not, by the way, not the first song made it.
Speaker 2: Not the first time fifty and Eminem did a song.
Speaker 1: This was the first time. For some reason, I think
Speaker 1: this was like the first collabo if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: because this was the first that be Et was there.
Speaker 2: No, No, this was where this was like patiently waiting and.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this was they were making a big deal
Speaker 1: out because MTV was there.
Speaker 2: Because by Bio six o seven, that's like, I mean,
Speaker 2: g Richard, get Richard, I try and came out in
Speaker 2: like two thousand and two.
Speaker 1: I think what was that two thousand and two? Yeah,
Speaker 1: covers back there. So we look, we get to Detroit
Speaker 1: for this video shoot, big deal two day video shoot.
Speaker 1: First day I meet Eminem, everything is good. Second day
Speaker 1: they leave me in the hotel. Was that album called
Speaker 1: the re up. By the way, yeah, I think the
Speaker 1: shady res I think the real Okay, go ahead. First
Speaker 1: day went smooth. Second day, they leave me in the hotel.
Speaker 1: I wake up. I'm like, where's everybody at? I get
Speaker 1: a call from High Rock. I'm like, right, you know
Speaker 1: where the fuck y'all at. He's like, yeah, I got
Speaker 1: to talk to you. When I get back to the hotel.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what for. He's like, I'm gonna talk to you.
Speaker 1: I'm like, cool. He came back this when Blackberries were out, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's like, I got somebody need to ask you. Man.
Speaker 1: He came to the hotel. He's like, what you're telling them?
Speaker 1: Drugs out of fifty cent? I said this, fucking nigga
Speaker 1: fox Man. So he's spreading that shit round man. So
Speaker 1: I told the whole story. So he's like, man, we
Speaker 1: got a call. We got to talk to fifty fifty
Speaker 1: got an airplane ticket for you to go back to Arizona.
Speaker 1: I was already gone, so shot Money had to come
Speaker 1: get me. Seat Money came to get us. I tell
Speaker 1: him the whole story on the way to this video shoot.
Speaker 1: So now he's convinced I'm telling the truth. So now
Speaker 1: we get there. He's like, there's a room stack Quo's
Speaker 1: in there. Lloyd Banks. I'm gonna tell you why fucking
Speaker 1: Lloyd Banks. Lloyd Banks? Ya yo, But everybody's in this
Speaker 1: one room, this little green room, right, it's import Sean
Speaker 1: Money is saying, you gotta talk to fifty cent. But
Speaker 1: how am I gonna talk to fifty with all the
Speaker 1: fucking MTV's here. You know, BT is here. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not thinking about my ass, My Arizona nigga about
Speaker 1: to send me back to Arizona. He's not. So Sean
Speaker 1: Money was like, tell them what happened, Tell them what happened.
Speaker 1: All the guys in, all the rappers in the room.
Speaker 1: So I tell them what happened. I'm like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: blah blah blahh you know he you know, Fox said this.
Speaker 1: Fox said that this is why fuck with Lloyd Banks.
Speaker 1: Banks was like, Man, why they gonna fuck with this nigga?
Speaker 1: Like that? Man, this nigga is out here trying to
Speaker 1: make music. Man, he from Arizona. He don't know none
Speaker 1: of this ship out here. Man. Man, Fox a bully
Speaker 1: man nigga always trying to you know, he just kind
Speaker 1: of takeing up for me, right, fuck with Lloyd Banks? Yeah. Yo.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, yea, Yo was like, son, you
Speaker 1: just got to talk to fifth. He said, you just
Speaker 1: may have to beg. We all had to. I said,
Speaker 1: that's funny, am I give them too much? Yeah? So
Speaker 1: he's like, you may have to beg. I said, y'all
Speaker 1: niggas begg because he buy y'all bileies and ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm just gonna tell him what happened.
Speaker 1: So now he's fifties, is lunchtime, fifties, sitting in his
Speaker 1: room with his publishers. He's eating a burrito and ship
Speaker 1: and now I'm like, fuck, I gotta talk to him.
Speaker 1: Playing about to leave, right, So I'm like, fuck it.
Speaker 1: I walked in the room, Yo, Can I talked to you? Doug?
Speaker 1: He looked at his publicist and the publishers, like do
Speaker 1: I need to leave? He's like, no, You're good. He's like,
Speaker 1: what's up. I was like, Bro, I would have to
Speaker 1: be a stupid motherfucker to be having drugs sent to
Speaker 1: your house to me, Yeah, for sure. Like I'm from Arizona,
Speaker 1: but I know you know what I mean? Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: can't explain to him, you know, the clothing situation on
Speaker 1: my manager and stuff, because you got to think. I
Speaker 1: just asked him could I get boxes sent to his house?
Speaker 1: So on his head drugs. So that really fucked up
Speaker 1: relationship at that time. So he was like he did
Speaker 1: that little laugh. He was like, Fox just want to rap,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: seeing you on Rod. I just got to get you
Speaker 1: all off the house. So he ended up seeing me,
Speaker 1: sending me and Rod to New York in a penthouse
Speaker 1: and he let Fox stand in the house. I was upset.
Speaker 1: I wanted to stay in the house. I wanted to work.
Speaker 1: Rob was happy. Rob wanted to have the girls, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I was like, no, man, I
Speaker 1: was like, I wanted to get back in fifty house.
Speaker 1: But at that time he was already tired of her.
Speaker 1: So it was just like a weird relationship. I had him.
Speaker 1: Then Tiffany, she kept calling me like she was like,
Speaker 1: fucking from the beginning, get up out of there. I
Speaker 1: can get your own record deal, I get your own situation.
Speaker 1: We can do this, do that. But I was so
Speaker 1: gun home. Fifty g on it in all the situation. I'm,
Speaker 1: you know, fucking Academy Awards and he's the hottest artist
Speaker 1: in the fucking world at this time. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm not leaving this man's house. And then
Speaker 1: she ended up talking to me. She ended up talking
Speaker 1: me into asking him to leave pretty much if I
Speaker 1: got that story correctcause that's sounded about right, And she
Speaker 1: asked me to give her about six months, so I had.
Speaker 1: That was the hardest thing too. I had to go
Speaker 1: talk to Fifty about that, be like, hey, man, I'm out. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't say it like that. I said, can I
Speaker 1: talk to you man once again? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: He goes, I tell him my I told the situation.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I've been in New York
Speaker 1: because he remember, you send us to New York, and
Speaker 1: I was in my feelings about not being back at
Speaker 1: the house. So I was just like, you know, I
Speaker 1: just kind of want to go back. I have a situation,
Speaker 1: new management, you know, blah blah. He basically like you sure,
Speaker 1: you know he sent me back, man? And I got
Speaker 1: home and I put them all my faith into the
Speaker 1: Family Tree Entertainment situation, which was with Tiffany and Blue
Speaker 1: Michael Blue Williams. They used to manager out casting on them,
Speaker 1: Big Sean Gucci. I ended up trusting them. They ended
Speaker 1: up getting labels excited about me, had labels wanting to signing,
Speaker 1: you know. And you know, so this is this before
Speaker 1: Man Up Squad's the thing. This was Manham Squad was
Speaker 1: already going on. Okay, Man of Squad was no, uh no,
Speaker 1: I didn't meet Remember, I just met Rod. I didn't
Speaker 1: get with Man of Squad two thousand and seven. That'sh
Speaker 1: hot Rod happened in two thousand and six. So all
Speaker 1: this is formulating into Manhim Squad got it because a
Speaker 1: lot of because people were Man of Squad was grouping
Speaker 1: up at this time when me and Rock, when I
Speaker 1: got signed and when Rod got signed, people were really
Speaker 1: like people that knew me from Arizona was coming to
Speaker 1: me because of Rod's situation. So I was kind of
Speaker 1: like an Arizona right, you know what I'm saying. They
Speaker 1: were coming to me. So all these dudes were coming
Speaker 1: around me. So I'm formulating the Man of Squad. I
Speaker 1: knew phrase to phrase man Yeah or Peter Phrase man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that motherfucker was an alien. Yeah. He was the most
Speaker 1: one of the most talented dudes I ever worked with.
Speaker 1: You know, we brought Phrase to Atlanta, Tiffany and I.
Speaker 1: He was cold man. We ended up getting him to
Speaker 1: work with Bangladesh, who you know does records. Was that
Speaker 1: it was you saying q Emir Jiggelow? Yeah, jig yeah, man.
Speaker 1: Who wasn't in it all the all the top. Anybody
Speaker 1: who even j times three bro, anybody who had a
Speaker 1: name wanted to be a part of men up, that
Speaker 1: had any type of talent. Do you feel like.
Speaker 2: Because at that time it felt like there was like
Speaker 2: the g Unit Black Wall Street thing, what led over
Speaker 2: the Arizona. Was there like any any animosity towards Juice
Speaker 2: at that time?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the let me see what happened. And no,
Speaker 1: no disrespect to Richie because Richie is my brother, No
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: And I think also prior to that, wasn't he with
Speaker 2: a Mari or was that after? This was before came after?
Speaker 1: So when hot Rod and Juice mean excuse me, when
Speaker 1: how Rod and Juice first got with game? Game went
Speaker 1: fuck with Juice because of the hot Ross You this
Speaker 1: before really even existed on with GTP. I'm cool with Rod.
Speaker 1: I ended up me and Mike Rashid and Hot Rob
Speaker 1: were in the car. Richie just had said fuck hoig
Speaker 1: Rod on the song. You get what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: ended up seeing Richie at a barber shop. I'm in
Speaker 1: the car with hot Rod and Michael Sheet. You get
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, right. I ended up seeing Richie Mikerora Sheet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, Mikero Sheet, that's my brother. I ended up
Speaker 1: seeing this nigga like the world knows a miss micro
Speaker 1: Sheet just wor clear. So at the time that Richie
Speaker 1: seen a hot Rod And I'm gonna say this real
Speaker 1: vaguely because it ain't really know any really big of
Speaker 1: a situation. But I see Richie at this time, I'm
Speaker 1: hot because he just said fuck hot Roding and no,
Speaker 1: fuck that. This nigga's gonna represent Arizona. I don't care
Speaker 1: where you're from. Were gonna do this shit right. This
Speaker 1: is the only thing we got. You don't have no
Speaker 1: say sowing this shit. We're not doing this. That was
Speaker 1: my whole argument with Richie at the time. Don't say
Speaker 1: fuck him just because you're a game and he's with fifty.
Speaker 1: Fuck with game and fifty is going through. That was
Speaker 1: my argument. So it wasn't like I was trying to
Speaker 1: take up for Rod. It was more like it was
Speaker 1: moved together. Yeah, it was more like you're tripping, bro.
Speaker 1: So when I seen him, you know, it started off
Speaker 1: kind of confrontational. Whatever. He you know, try to shake
Speaker 1: our hand. In the car, I got out. We were
Speaker 1: talking and we kind of squared up a little bit.
Speaker 1: Rob was in the car. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you're a car. No, he was in Mica. We were
Speaker 1: all in micro SHOT's car. So I'm talking, I'm doing
Speaker 1: I'm doing mostly the talking for him. Rob. Window come down.
Speaker 1: He finally starts talking. There's a little story behind that.
Speaker 1: I don't know who rolled the window down. Somebody's telling
Speaker 1: me that, you know what I'm saying, Somebody said somebody
Speaker 1: needs to speak up for themselves. I don't know what happened,
Speaker 1: but all I know is Rod window came down, and
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, what's the problem, Bro, Because I'm outside
Speaker 1: talking for him too, you know what I mean. He's
Speaker 1: in the car, but his window comes down like he's
Speaker 1: fucking Donald Trump in the back set. We're in a
Speaker 1: magna mummy, you know what I'm saying. And so later
Speaker 1: on I kind of figured out how the window came down.
Speaker 1: But they're all talking and ship old boy, get out
Speaker 1: the car juice. I'm like, so if everybody cool, we
Speaker 1: all should be able to take pictures, right, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, We all take pictures. I never put
Speaker 1: him out. We never put him out. Never had a
Speaker 1: problem ever since. Right, we had some posters, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and things like that. So from there
Speaker 1: it was just kind of like me and Richie knew
Speaker 1: why I was upset at that time. So ever since then,
Speaker 1: me and Richie was cool, right, you know, Richie, Richie
Speaker 1: is probably the most one of the most humblest, sure
Speaker 1: real super amazing guy. Like I love that dude, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. At this time, he know, I
Speaker 1: was on some we was on some rap ego shit.
Speaker 1: This is the only reason I'm telling this story, Richie.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make it seem like a punk
Speaker 1: for sure, letting you know, I know, I'm telling the
Speaker 1: whole story of how it built up to what it was.
Speaker 2: Justice is the first guy who ever handed me money.
Speaker 2: I've never made it. I'd never made a reign in
Speaker 2: my life. And We're at Sonny's and Chandler and he
Speaker 2: just handed me like five hundred dollars and ones and
Speaker 2: he's like, you gotta throw it though, And I was like,
Speaker 2: at the time, I didn't have anything, so I.
Speaker 1: Was throwing it on and wasn't looking. Hey. I remember
Speaker 1: one time I was stuffing some money. We was partying
Speaker 1: a Luda and a JEZI was having a battle. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, this is my first time going
Speaker 1: out with him. Right now, I want some of them.
Speaker 1: I need the money right now, all kind of ones
Speaker 1: in my pocket. I had ship in my socks. It
Speaker 1: was falling out. That's funny. That was amazing.
Speaker 2: So, uh, fast forward, How does the Luther thing transpire?
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken? Uh? Tiffany uh knew someone down
Speaker 1: at DTP disturbed. She knew, No I was. I was
Speaker 1: getting shocked with Jazzy fade outcast all them. Luda was
Speaker 1: ready shocking them, were ready. Court Digger shout out to
Speaker 1: court Digger. He was working down there. Him and Tiffany,
Speaker 1: they were really cool. Even though she knew everybody in
Speaker 1: the office. I don't know how Court took play, but
Speaker 1: I think Court was actually playing the demo if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken inside of the uh the office, body marked Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. So look she's playing, he's playing
Speaker 1: Body Marked Up. Jeff Dixon walks by that Shaka's uh
Speaker 1: the other boss, Shaka's brother? Was it Shaka or Jeff one? Jeah?
Speaker 1: He stops and said, who the hell is that? What's
Speaker 1: this body? Body marked up? Whatever? Yeah, that was pretty
Speaker 1: much it. Man, It's like the old record label story.
Speaker 1: Somebody heard the demo? Yo was was body Marked Up?
Speaker 2: Because I remember Carly made it like the street Heat
Speaker 2: of the Week on Power was that prior to d
Speaker 2: t P.
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, shout that was that was an Arizona
Speaker 1: street record. Yeah, it was that.
Speaker 2: I remember. It's so crazy because we had so much
Speaker 2: like it was that and then Iraq had that record.
Speaker 2: What was the Irock record on his album class Fuss.
Speaker 1: Swell Swell Way? Yeah, no, that sh it was hard. No,
Speaker 1: it's crazy.
Speaker 2: So you end up signing with Ludas it's a it's
Speaker 2: a it's crazy because at that time, I remember you
Speaker 2: were on the cover was a dub magazine.
Speaker 1: With a dub Yes, sir.
Speaker 2: That was there a special edition Double XL that got
Speaker 2: passed up my tripping around Super Bowl and.
Speaker 1: I was on Double XCEL. I was in the double
Speaker 1: XEL was it was maybe Ozone Ozone with Julia Beverly exposed.
Speaker 1: I have to expose. Fuck, I had an exposed cover
Speaker 1: man exposed Man News I was, you know, the first
Speaker 1: first rapper from Arizona pretty much on the cover of
Speaker 1: News Times. Yeah, that's still big to get on the cover.
Speaker 1: It's hard to get on cover of News Times, not
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, I don't know. I can we do
Speaker 1: it again? It's time to do it again New Times.
Speaker 1: I mean, I obviously don't know about it now, but
Speaker 1: back in the day, that ship was that was a
Speaker 1: big deal. Easy yeh man, That's how I used to
Speaker 1: find out what concerts are coming. You get that motherfucking
Speaker 1: New Times and pools to go to the back and
Speaker 1: be like, what's coming as Marquee, that's just crazy. So
Speaker 1: it's so wild.
Speaker 2: I'm living in Boise doing radio when you drop the
Speaker 2: Connect and yeah, I think I bought like ten copies
Speaker 2: of that album.
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that. Man keV is a real Arizona vet. Y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all don't know keV is really don't forget what you're
Speaker 1: about to say, but keV, keV is a leg and
Speaker 1: the fact that he's on the platform that he is
Speaker 1: now and he's still being in on the block in
Speaker 1: Arizona as much as you wouldn't even know he left,
Speaker 1: he's tapped in with everything. Yeah, but much respect to
Speaker 1: you man for what you're doing. Man, But no, it's
Speaker 1: just crazy because it was such a big deal.
Speaker 2: I feel like a record like Hood Dreamer was about
Speaker 2: a year and a half or two early because Bob
Speaker 2: was cracking on the mixtape scene, but he hadn't had
Speaker 2: the record with Bruto yet. And I think if that
Speaker 2: record would have dropped like even like because what was that?
Speaker 1: That was? That was nine, right, So I think if
Speaker 1: that what record it came out like one year later,
Speaker 1: it would have been different because Hood Dreamer was crazy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you had Bob on the fucking South Side before
Speaker 1: he was fucking came too Broadway man on my Grandma
Speaker 1: Crazy Came to Grandma's House was on the album, Neil Man,
Speaker 1: it was it was it was really I have my
Speaker 1: favorite producer in the world. I was able to work
Speaker 1: with him. He's still one of my favorites. Bangladesh. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: shot to bangladeshsh was retarded. Still it's crazy. Like every
Speaker 1: time I say that, I'm like, yeah, I've worked with
Speaker 1: Bengli Desh.
Speaker 2: So I think that, like, I want to get your
Speaker 2: perspective on what went wrong with the Connect, why you
Speaker 2: think it didn't do as well as we had all
Speaker 2: hoped it to do, and why we had to wait
Speaker 2: fifteen years because you were who we had all the
Speaker 2: chips on the connect came and like the fact that
Speaker 2: as I always looked at it as a w the
Speaker 2: fact that we as at Arizona had a rapper drop
Speaker 2: something on depth jam so crazy, and.
Speaker 1: That's always the fact that that's always bro They came
Speaker 1: down play what happened.
Speaker 2: No, it was crazy, it was it was insane. I
Speaker 2: just I just think that, like, obviously it didn't do
Speaker 2: what we all wanted it to do. I think that
Speaker 2: your career didn't do what all we all wanted it
Speaker 2: to do. And I'm just curious You've had all these
Speaker 2: years to kind of sit back, kind of assess what
Speaker 2: do you think kind of went wrong with the Connect?
Speaker 1: What went wrong with the Connect? There was a few things.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things. Brother, I'm sure it's not
Speaker 1: just one thing. Let's start with body marked up. Just
Speaker 1: remember that that question, so I can. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: through minutes just fast as I can. Body marked Up.
Speaker 1: We had a sample clearance issue. That was number one,
Speaker 1: big big sample clearance. Yeah. Well, Wayne was cool with it. Wayne.
Speaker 1: Wayne was willing to do it again. Which record was
Speaker 1: he said it on Soldier Desney Child Soldier not. But look,
Speaker 1: Beyonce approved it, Matthew Knowles, Dark Child, everyone approved it.
Speaker 1: There's only one rapper that didn't approve it, t I
Speaker 1: t I didn't approve it. So we had fun. So
Speaker 1: that was a year of bullshit. I had to wait,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, ye, So that was
Speaker 1: a year I had to wait, and I was seeing
Speaker 1: TI here and there, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: he wouldn't clear it just because of the Yeah, he
Speaker 1: wouldn't because of the lutle beef. And by the time
Speaker 1: he finally cleared it, I think we're moving on to
Speaker 1: the next record. We was already on the next record.
Speaker 1: So look that happened, right. Everything I did was ahead
Speaker 1: of my time. G it was just moving too fast.
Speaker 1: I'm just too good. I'm just too fucking good. I
Speaker 1: guess that's what it was. My mom says, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No, but seriously, we we do that.
Speaker 1: Then we get number one Side Chick with Bobby Volentino.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This song is a song,
Speaker 1: a real song about a singer, a girl that I
Speaker 1: was actually you know, it was a real record. It
Speaker 1: wasn't a disrespectful record, you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: was kind of a love song if you listen to
Speaker 1: the words. The video was shot love style. We actually
Speaker 1: shot the video in La with Todd who does Rihanna
Speaker 1: videos and all that stuff, which was cool. But we
Speaker 1: do number one side Chick at this time, Little Wayne,
Speaker 1: if I can fuck every girl in the world is out,
Speaker 1: Pleasure Peed Boyfriend number two. All these songs are out.
Speaker 1: But when I dropped number one Side Chick b t
Speaker 1: get they banned me. Really because of that. You can
Speaker 1: google it now to this day. Yes, I guess I'm
Speaker 1: just what was the football guy? I guess he got
Speaker 1: killed by a side chick. Oh, Steve, so he just
Speaker 1: put the documentary out of it. Yeah, he got killed
Speaker 1: by his side chick and I'm calling the song, you know,
Speaker 1: number one side chick and it has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with no one killing, no violence, no disrespect of a
Speaker 1: woman or nothing, and they ban it. So that's another
Speaker 1: record we had to. You know, we we couldn't really
Speaker 1: get all the airplay and all the things that we
Speaker 1: needed to get forward.
Speaker 2: And I think I think y'all really should have put
Speaker 2: a bag a body marked up. Fuck yeah, but or
Speaker 2: had Wayne refucking.
Speaker 1: Know, Wayne wanted to re say, redo it. We even
Speaker 1: had slim Thug do it. Slim Thug did it, and
Speaker 1: just so you know, I got it right here if
Speaker 1: you ever want to hear it. Oh yeah, I got
Speaker 1: to hear that. I got a version with slim Thug
Speaker 1: body marked up. It was. It was. The actual remix
Speaker 1: has a whole new beat that I'm releasing in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. I haven't talked about it at all, but
Speaker 1: it's fucking ridiculous. Yeah, I mean like that song is
Speaker 1: like a new verse on it, and put a new
Speaker 1: verse on it. But it's fucking ridiculous. It's produced by
Speaker 1: Live Box, who's a platinum producer. Right.
Speaker 2: Well, also, I think well, first of all, that og
Speaker 2: beat those crazy. I also don't think it aged like
Speaker 2: you listen to that song now you're like, wait until
Speaker 2: you hear the new Body Marked Up version. Man, So
Speaker 2: so you guys move on from Body Marked Up? Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Bobby I remember.
Speaker 1: You guys like, oh so then that happened with Bobby
Speaker 1: Ontin though, right, yeah, it's okay, what else can happen? Right,
Speaker 1: what else can happen? And goes wrong? Right? We drop
Speaker 1: our album? Everybody's happy this nigga Michael Jackson decides to die. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I remember I was living in Idaho, w and it happened. Bro.
Speaker 1: I cried, Bro. We had billboards, interviews, radio set up.
Speaker 1: Everything was canceled. Jeez, everything top ten, nothing, everything is
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. I had no room, Bro, Michael Jackson died.
Speaker 1: That was the biggest artist in the United States something
Speaker 1: in the world, in the world, in the world, you
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. Ever, probably probably so that's bigger
Speaker 1: than the president. And so when he died, it's just like, okay,
Speaker 1: and Willie's albums out. Yeah, it's all around the same time.
Speaker 1: I remember, No, it wasn't the same time, my g
Speaker 1: the same day crazy within the day or two almost
Speaker 1: like it sucked the energy out of like well, hey
Speaker 1: no and bad it being bad taste for me to
Speaker 1: push my album while the world's morning. And you know
Speaker 1: what's funny is a lot of people say, oh, he
Speaker 1: always blaming it on Michael Jackson. I'm like, bro, it's
Speaker 1: fucking Michael Jackson brother. So why not.
Speaker 2: Try again and drop another album? Stick like what happened
Speaker 2: with like you ended up leaving DTP. You know what, man,
Speaker 2: did they end up dropping you? Like what happened where
Speaker 2: you were?
Speaker 1: Never got dropped, never got dropped. I don't know where
Speaker 1: that come from. I hear that. By the way, it's
Speaker 1: also not a bad thing to get dropped. Can I
Speaker 1: talk keV. I'm just saying it. I just sooner.
Speaker 2: But I'd like to point out, like in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: it's a good thing when you get dropped.
Speaker 1: Back in the day, when I used to say I
Speaker 1: never got dropped, I used to get offend it. But
Speaker 1: now I say, and if I dig it rock, look
Speaker 1: look at what they did for me. Now. They set
Speaker 1: my whole platform up. They made me a national star
Speaker 1: at one point to where all people need to do
Speaker 1: is hear that I'm back. You know how many people
Speaker 1: are saying you it's do I remember him from Hood
Speaker 1: Dreamer number once? They're picking their face.
Speaker 2: It's funny because anytime I ever tell anybody like I'm
Speaker 2: from Azy either, I was like, oh, yeah, that's a
Speaker 2: what's it Walley.
Speaker 1: North Post from there? Right? Who else? Did they say? Juice?
Speaker 1: That's it? That's it. It's really those two. Like I
Speaker 1: was saying, hats all to my boy Richie. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: really all too. I'm telling you if you talked like
Speaker 1: hip hop dudes like they always say, you were juice
Speaker 1: because we move, we're futuristic, we move around man or
Speaker 1: fucking who else. I'm talking about from Arizona, Bro the future.
Speaker 1: He's from Illinois, obviously, I'm talking about from Arizona Lanes,
Speaker 1: where your grandma's from. I'm talking about Arizona. And you
Speaker 1: be letting that little dude, what's the little MTV dude
Speaker 1: that be coming up here and whatever talking about Arizona music?
Speaker 1: What the fuck is his name? Oh? You mean the
Speaker 1: guy who interviewed me here? Yeah, that guy. Him and
Speaker 1: I had an interesting conversation. Let me say something about
Speaker 1: this dude. I don't know. I'm j TV MJ. Shout
Speaker 1: out to MJ. He reached out to me in my DM.
Speaker 1: I'm cool with MJ, but these fucking artists he's bringing
Speaker 1: up to your platform. Never he's I've never heard of these,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't brought a single artist here well wherever
Speaker 1: he's from, what he's doing is looking like it's looking
Speaker 1: like Adam is involved. It looks like he's bringing these
Speaker 1: his homies. I don't know who he's bringing. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You didn't bring anybody here that I don't know, none
Speaker 1: of these artists. So when when they're representing Arizona on
Speaker 1: the platform and I'm not seeing names like Judge the Bass,
Speaker 1: duf Fago, Dan g Uh, you know, just you know,
Speaker 1: just artists that really Chris Kokesfire, Chris Coba, God, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's just like be the ruler,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when you're saying when
Speaker 1: these people, when I'm not seeing these artists and they're
Speaker 1: only these type of platforms and I'm not hearing those now,
Speaker 1: I just want to be clear. He didn't offend it.
Speaker 1: He hasked to interview me.
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, because I want to support up and coming,
Speaker 2: you know, media personalities from Eazy.
Speaker 1: He didn't bring any artists here. He just he has
Speaker 1: to do an interview. I'm gona blame that shit on
Speaker 1: I DOAM don't know though, Yeah he doesn't know. Yeah
Speaker 1: he has to do an interview. And uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: think dude bringing his homies up there. I mean I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just know. Uh yeah. With that being said,
Speaker 1: we're gonna rep this shit right as you gonna do
Speaker 1: it right. And keV you know, I rep this shit
Speaker 1: right for sure. And I don't play about where we're from.
Speaker 1: But but let me know, man, like, at what point
Speaker 1: in time do you get knocked off the rails where
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't know if I'm going to put
Speaker 1: any like like you know, fifteen years to drop an
Speaker 1: album is a long time, yeah, man, Like I said, Man,
Speaker 1: I really I never stopped recording. The game would have
Speaker 1: to accept me when they were ready, Like I had
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know, I still went to QT.
Speaker 1: I still went to these stores. I have to go
Speaker 1: grocery shopping, right, these people know me. You know, I
Speaker 1: can't get a regular job in areas. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's just like they're like, so with
Speaker 1: the music, man, what's going on? Man? You know, and
Speaker 1: the people that really knew me, and I'll let them
Speaker 1: hear stuff, and like, man, you need to drop that.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Right? Did you start to like
Speaker 1: psych yourself out using I think I think it was.
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was psyching myself. I think I
Speaker 1: just wasn't into the whole industry, the smoking mirror situation.
Speaker 1: When I'm an artist, brother, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm a real artist, like Beethoven, concept artists. I like music,
Speaker 1: I like violins, I like music. So it's like I
Speaker 1: wanted to I was working on my autographs when I
Speaker 1: was twelve years old. I wanted that life, that Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I wanted that, and when I finally got a taste
Speaker 1: of it, it was just kind of like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know if this for me. It ain't that. It's
Speaker 1: that the people that do good, they don't treat them right,
Speaker 1: the Lauren Hills, the people that just want to really
Speaker 1: make music. You get what I'm saying. There's people that
Speaker 1: really I'm really a real MC right, you know, And
Speaker 1: my mother think that My manager even said this, you
Speaker 1: were just too normal. My mother said, you're a golden child.
Speaker 1: You were, you know it. Just the way I'm shaping
Speaker 1: myself to be now is perfect. If we were to
Speaker 1: go back into the industry, I don't know, if you know,
Speaker 1: I would love that opportunity to getting there again, but doing.
Speaker 2: Anything like making sure on top of the reels and
Speaker 2: the tiktoks and yeah, trying to you know that, at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, you can't compete in today's
Speaker 2: landscape if you're not doing all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And a lot of the younger artists refuse to do
Speaker 1: that kind of shit. Bro, I'm getting more hate from
Speaker 1: young artists, which is dope. I love that whatever. No no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: listen what I'm just saying. When I know that I'm back,
Speaker 1: the people that used to hate it in our generation,
Speaker 1: they love us. They love that I'm back. They you know,
Speaker 1: they feel bad, like really, you know we should have
Speaker 1: that's we're getting full Arizona support with this new Wally way. Bro.
Speaker 1: It's just some people that didn't know the younger generation.
Speaker 1: They're like, how do you just come back and just
Speaker 1: grab this ship? Because that's my that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: my state. I don't know if you went back yet
Speaker 1: that's really my ship now well respectfully, sure you you,
Speaker 1: but we're taking it to another level.
Speaker 2: I'm curious though, so the connect comes and goes, right,
Speaker 2: what is do you have? What are the conversations like
Speaker 2: with Shaka and Luda in terms of like I'm assuming
Speaker 2: you you owe them more music? Not a lot of
Speaker 2: times back then people were signing one offs.
Speaker 1: No I was. I was. I signed a five record deal,
Speaker 1: but I have the option to get out of the
Speaker 1: deal after every album. So I was cleaning. So you
Speaker 1: were able to have the same deal too. Chains at
Speaker 1: Nice correct, So so when two Chains left after Play
Speaker 1: a Circle, I was there. I remember when I was
Speaker 1: in that video Don't for Bad. Yeah.
Speaker 2: By the way, that song you had on what was
Speaker 2: the song called.
Speaker 1: Up the Homies? Called Up the Homies with Jane Classic
Speaker 1: with the game, so you know, I introduced little Chris
Speaker 1: to his wife. Oh nice? Yeah, So how that worked? Damn?
Speaker 1: I went to the whole story by the end, okay,
Speaker 1: Y said, don't tell that. Yeah, So yeah, like it
Speaker 1: was that's how I ended up getting a great song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was at Jaggal. It was that Pan terrorists. By
Speaker 1: the way, you're a pan Terra veteran, aren't you. We Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're good. Willie North pulled a pan Terra's vet. It
Speaker 1: wasn't nothing bad, but yeah, so it's it's all love
Speaker 1: from that camp. Yeah, for sure, shout out to disturbing
Speaker 1: the piece.
Speaker 2: It's crazy too because if you look at like where
Speaker 2: everyone's kind of careers went during that era, it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously Juice has been active. Richie Evans uh
Speaker 2: a hot rod, I think stopped making music. I think,
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's a fucking great guy. Obviously a
Speaker 2: very funny follow on Instagram, but like I always had
Speaker 2: a humor ship, Mike Rashid is fucking he's supposed.
Speaker 1: To be here. He's gonna come fucking cracking. He's about
Speaker 1: to come up here right now.
Speaker 2: It was so funny because when I interviewed him, I
Speaker 2: almost wanted to talk to him more about like, yo,
Speaker 2: so what was it like back in the day when
Speaker 2: you were saying cue and and more than I give
Speaker 2: a fuck about his fitness.
Speaker 1: Stuff and him have the best comeback stories ever and
Speaker 1: you guys just you guys just put some shit out together, right,
Speaker 1: But that's my best friend.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, His story is insane, the way he was
Speaker 2: on the run and ship, Yeah, because he was, he
Speaker 2: was buzzing in the city and then it's like he
Speaker 2: just went away and then you realize, oh, he was
Speaker 2: on the run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had to switch his name and everything he
Speaker 1: had to he went through it to get to the
Speaker 1: point he he was becoming famous on the run. He
Speaker 1: became a millionaire on the run. But okay, so he
Speaker 1: finally cleared his head.
Speaker 2: Are you guys, do you feel like you might have
Speaker 2: inspired him to make music again?
Speaker 1: You know what's funny, I don't know about him personally.
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope I am. I mean, I hope
Speaker 1: I help with his help with a lot of his music.
Speaker 1: I think I think I can say yesterday, I think
Speaker 1: he'll would be fair to say that I helped inspire
Speaker 1: him because he came up to Phoenix to work with
Speaker 1: me in the studio, to actually work with me. But
Speaker 1: I'm getting a lot of calls. Even Rocket Dologist called
Speaker 1: me and said that I inspired, that inspired. You know,
Speaker 1: that's big, like a lot of ogs. A lot of
Speaker 1: people that are saying that. I'm you know, so a
Speaker 1: lot of people are saying that Willie thank you for
Speaker 1: getting me excited to get back into the studio. And
Speaker 1: I'm hearing that from a lot of people, and I
Speaker 1: really wish that y'all can believe me when I say that, Man,
Speaker 1: that is not bragging. That's and it's crazy because I
Speaker 1: was getting these calls and these people I respect on
Speaker 1: the street level, these are people that I respect on
Speaker 1: a business level, and they're calling me to thank me
Speaker 1: for what I'm doing right now. Shot to Iraq many. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rocke Dollar did a freestyle on my ear for like
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes two days ago. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Dog, he's one of my closest friends in the game.
Speaker 2: And you know, his son was signing me for a
Speaker 2: little bit Markel.
Speaker 1: But just picture me going south to Markel. But just
Speaker 1: picture Yeah, he's an alien. A picture I Rock coming
Speaker 1: up to me to show me his new ship that
Speaker 1: he's been wrapping. I'm like, letting me record it. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I don't like the camera, but
Speaker 1: he's doing that for me.
Speaker 2: I remember how big of a deal was he put
Speaker 2: out his album Die Rock Is a Classic, and he
Speaker 2: he had a signing at Virgin Megastore at Arizona Mills
Speaker 2: and I was on the street Team at the radio station.
Speaker 1: I thought it was so cool that somebody from Arizona
Speaker 1: had a signing. I got something for you. This is
Speaker 1: something that I wanted to bring. Just when you just
Speaker 1: said that, it just popped up something in my head.
Speaker 1: I remember my first rap when I was eleven years
Speaker 1: old that I wrote, you want to hear it? Sure,
Speaker 1: isn't that cool? Eleven? Yeah? Eleven. I don't even think
Speaker 1: Tiffany heard this. I was seven years old, right, These guys,
Speaker 1: these old grown men were always having freestyles. I said,
Speaker 1: one day, I'm a jump in that freestyle. So that
Speaker 1: night I knew what time they're going to do with
Speaker 1: the next day. And to get in you gotta like, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: they gotta know you're coming. So the next day I
Speaker 1: wrote my shit and all these grown men are rapping.
Speaker 1: I come in with the hey hey. They go crazy,
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, he's about to rap eleven year old Willie.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm friggingy fresh, I'm chaking it, fiking and
Speaker 1: taking too all the money that I'm making. And now
Speaker 1: I will put you on the fry and pan just
Speaker 1: like you, Bacon, I'm flybing the show. You know that
Speaker 1: I will take you toe to toe and now I'm
Speaker 1: a little crazy ass nigga now, you know, and people
Speaker 1: say I'm living up. Oh wait, that's the way I
Speaker 1: was raised on Broadway. Who first verse, I don't claim
Speaker 1: that is where I was raised. The little nigga with
Speaker 1: a flat top. You know, you can't fade because I'm
Speaker 1: the type of kid that drops a caddy and when
Speaker 1: I get loose, make a move. All these girls call
Speaker 1: me daddy. And when I was young, I was the
Speaker 1: hip hop bit. I said, I was a hip hop
Speaker 1: TikTok girl. I said, curls are my girls? Knocked the
Speaker 1: ass in the sandbox? Yo. That was my first bar
Speaker 1: bro that I ever wrote. You grew up on twenty
Speaker 1: fourth and Broadway. That crazy never wrote a white verse.
Speaker 1: You were on twenty fourth Street and Broadway all my life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my grandma's from there.
Speaker 2: My best friend Ramses grew up on baseline of twenty
Speaker 2: fourth Street.
Speaker 1: Jah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we used to always fucking be be running
Speaker 2: around that whole fucking hood, my whole childhood, just getting
Speaker 2: in it. Bullshit, it's crazy driving through the south Side now, yeah,
Speaker 2: so nice, just nice now, I mean it's not I mean,
Speaker 2: but dude, like dude, this is nice.
Speaker 1: It's nice for the tourist have that targeted. It's no
Speaker 1: different from Burdbank though. No, but it's but it's crazy
Speaker 1: to think like how like now there's like all these
Speaker 1: new business brad shit used to be depressing over there.
Speaker 1: It was I'm not gonna lie, it's crazy. It was bad. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, city councils doing. My uncle Mike Johnson, he
Speaker 1: was a city council. He had a lot to do
Speaker 1: cleaning it up over there to shut out Mike Johnson,
Speaker 1: you know, was kid. It's crazy the south side. You
Speaker 1: drive to the South Vice Mayor. I remember when this
Speaker 1: ship was a field right here. The fuck Yeah? They
Speaker 1: cleaning houses and Levine and ship. Yeah, man, Levine. I
Speaker 1: always tell everybody everybody went and got a house in
Speaker 1: Levine like Levine. Yeah, it's nice, but it ain't because
Speaker 1: you run into some ship at that gas station that
Speaker 1: quick trip. But have you fucked up in Levine? Yeah? QT,
Speaker 1: have you fucked up? Talk to me? Uh. You have
Speaker 1: a new record, the Chocolate Trollo MMMM, which is an
Speaker 1: interesting title breakdown because you kind of broke it down
Speaker 1: on the song. But just break down, like because we're
Speaker 1: from Arizona, which is you know, fucking by all I
Speaker 1: mean lots of Latinos. Check it out, man. So there's
Speaker 1: a few reasons. Well I can officially say that he
Speaker 1: let's start with Let's start with me. In my blood,
Speaker 1: my mother has an accent. My mother is half Mexican,
Speaker 1: excuse me, half looked out where I know where La
Speaker 1: I say one front, you know what I'm saying. My
Speaker 1: mother is half lo you know you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: My grandmother is full so senior Loda Sonora actually no
Speaker 1: Cinema Cinel. She's from Sinola, but she been here a
Speaker 1: whole life. She Your mom's half Mexican. Yeah, my mom
Speaker 1: is half Mexican. My grandfather is black. Yeah. Grandmother had
Speaker 1: twenty three kids or having many kids. Right. Her whole
Speaker 1: family lives in Arizona, right in California from fres and
Speaker 1: Oda all Hispanics. You know what I'm saying. Cousin Papa's
Speaker 1: alex alldemn So we got her whole side of the family,
Speaker 1: including my grandmother. So now she my grandma has eighteen kids,
Speaker 1: but my grandfather they're all half black, half Mexican. Right,
Speaker 1: we're the chocolate Ccholos, got it. Everybody knows us on
Speaker 1: Broadway as the chocolate Ccholos, pretty much everybody. My grandma
Speaker 1: was the Broadway grandmother. Everyone loves my grandmother. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I grew up to chodiso, tortillas and butter. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's how I grew up, Dotys. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna se it that way. But you know, and but
Speaker 1: all that shit, man, So just like when I and
Speaker 1: so that's that part of chocolate clo. Yeah. And then
Speaker 1: you got my best friends growing up Broadway. You know,
Speaker 1: Broadway was a mixture of Hispanic and blacks. For sure.
Speaker 1: They're not trying to act black. They were just Broadway gangsters.
Speaker 1: Real ones went harder than a lot of us, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And they were real about it.
Speaker 1: Find sisters. We used to like their sisters. These are
Speaker 1: people we grew up with. That's from the neighborhood. Never
Speaker 1: is no separation type. I don't know what goes on
Speaker 1: in different cities and states, but out there that was
Speaker 1: always a good blend. So moving forward my flow, I've
Speaker 1: always said something, I've always included the Hispanic Chicano Chicano Latina, Mexicane,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say into my music. I was
Speaker 1: saying chocolate Colo fifteen years ago in my old demos,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I was saying that. So
Speaker 1: my manager, Tiffany, she's from Arizona, she was always saying
Speaker 1: from when I first got signed. She was like, we
Speaker 1: got to include them with everything we do, and that's
Speaker 1: what we do. You have a deal with Philiberto's. We're
Speaker 1: about to get into all that. It's Philiberto, Philip, but
Speaker 1: Phillies Man, Phillies, Yes, Philipbertho's. Shout out to Philip. My boys,
Speaker 1: Caesar Man family owned chain down there. They can't. That's
Speaker 1: the McDonald's. You know.
Speaker 2: I try to tell people, I'm listen, you consider joining
Speaker 2: about Phillies Food.
Speaker 1: It's always there, it's always open, and it's always there
Speaker 1: when you know it's Carnie inside up man. Man, I
Speaker 1: love that California burrito over there. But it's it's at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. That's why I was trying
Speaker 1: to say. If I've done something that no one has
Speaker 1: ever done, I've bridged the gap with the Hispanic community
Speaker 1: and what I'm I don't know. You know, my state,
Speaker 1: my areas responding to a beautiful right. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Love, They see what I'm doing. All my
Speaker 1: work is coming from the Hispanic community. They you know
Speaker 1: I'm doing to live and Die, to Live and Die
Speaker 1: La tour, that's always out here. They're comeing to Phoenix.
Speaker 1: Oh nice to shout out to live in down La.
Speaker 1: You know they be running it out here sometimes. You know,
Speaker 1: explain to me the last fifteen years from the Okay,
Speaker 1: let's say, like give me a rundown on kind of
Speaker 1: what you've been up to outside of recording. You know,
Speaker 1: I know you be on some entrepreneurship. I know you
Speaker 1: be hustling, Like, what have you been up to? Me
Speaker 1: being nosy? No, I'm just asking, bro. I feel like
Speaker 1: people want to know. It's like hiatus talk. Yeah you've
Speaker 1: been on this hiatus. Bro, the fuck you've been up to? No,
Speaker 1: you gotta pay the bills. Man? Oh man, do I
Speaker 1: go there? No? I can't go there. I mean it
Speaker 1: was real life, bro. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I represent your generation of hip hop kV. I can't
Speaker 1: talk about what these kids are talking about. So I
Speaker 1: had to go through stuff to get to this level,
Speaker 1: to even want to come back to rap. You know,
Speaker 1: we're at the age like what the fuck I want
Speaker 1: to wrap for Like it ain't because of its old thing.
Speaker 1: It's because it's just like I'm not drilling, I'm not
Speaker 1: painting my hair purple, I'm not none of that. I'm
Speaker 1: not getting no tattoos on my face. I'm too clean
Speaker 1: for these dudes, you know what I'm saying. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, there's a lane that we need a
Speaker 1: voice in our generation. And that's because hip hop is
Speaker 1: young at all, fifty one, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's fifty years. You know, they haven't had any grandpas
Speaker 1: or any of that, so there's no gap. You can't
Speaker 1: put a gap on something that was just burst into
Speaker 1: the world that's running the whole. By the way, tis
Speaker 1: a grandpa. Now. I just found that out.
Speaker 2: He's got three grandkids, which is fucking crazy. I heard
Speaker 2: that yesterday and I was like, what, I'm old anyway.
Speaker 1: So you got you got it. You got people like
Speaker 1: TI that's still hot, little One, you got Drake, these
Speaker 1: people are still hot, and Kanye's and all these other
Speaker 1: people that are still hot and that can still make
Speaker 1: great music. And you got other people that's trying to
Speaker 1: put cap on what they do. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's not how it works. We are the forefathers, the lyricists,
Speaker 1: all these people, and I just happened to still be
Speaker 1: handsome as fucked look good. Drop some shit can rap
Speaker 1: better than all these niggas, And I'm coming back because
Speaker 1: it's not about age. It's about talent at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah right around, No for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if it's about that, I think hip hop
Speaker 2: has been kind of ageless for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The Change was kind of the first guy to show
Speaker 2: everybody like.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. Two Changs was the first for sure,
Speaker 1: like where you could be like, yo, I'm post thirty
Speaker 1: and popping the two chains. Come back story is what
Speaker 1: Willie north Poe was doing right now. I like attention,
Speaker 1: just pay attention. That's my bro. Yeah when I say
Speaker 1: we was on the tour bus roasting each other and
Speaker 1: playing circle days all that ship. Yeah that's my dude. Man,
Speaker 1: I need to do a song with him.
Speaker 2: Actually, do you after this out? Are you going to
Speaker 2: continue to drop music or you? Like I mean you
Speaker 2: said that you you just tease The body Marked Up
Speaker 2: Part two that was that was.
Speaker 1: That was I don't know why I brought that up.
Speaker 1: That was like so relevant to the other ship we
Speaker 1: got planned.
Speaker 2: You know for sure what I'm saying. But you have
Speaker 2: a bunch of other Like it's not like you're going
Speaker 2: to go away for fifteen years never again.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't, right, you gotta think, bro, Yeah she's here.
Speaker 1: But I got three other people. I got a whole team,
Speaker 1: three or four other people, because you have another company,
Speaker 1: what was it called dark Star, dark Nation, dark Nation?
Speaker 1: But that was me. That was just that was me
Speaker 1: playing the double Dutch game, trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, worked because it was me
Speaker 1: coming back. So it caught a little buzz. I sold
Speaker 1: out hoodies and everything. But I didn't have a team
Speaker 1: behind me, right, you know. I was just doing all
Speaker 1: this shit, like, yo, the fuck. I didn't know what
Speaker 1: to do. I'm thinking, you just dropped music. I didn't
Speaker 1: have no plan what I do with the music. I
Speaker 1: wasn't had to have no video plans, right you know.
Speaker 1: So it just kind of like now I'm not throwing
Speaker 1: shit against the wall. Everything I got right now is
Speaker 1: strategic and we're never going to stop. I can't stop
Speaker 1: because I'm running. I'm running an engine for other people now.
Speaker 2: So after your guys' era and asy hip hop, there's
Speaker 2: the era that I had a lot to do with,
Speaker 2: and that was like the VI the rule of futuristic
Speaker 2: sincerely Collins wave that popped off right, Like I remember
Speaker 2: that I managed Collins for a few years and I
Speaker 2: hosted V's one of his first mixtapes, and Zach was
Speaker 2: you know, fuck he was a regular on our show
Speaker 2: and we did music together and I took him.
Speaker 1: Around to running.
Speaker 2: But what were your thoughts just from like being one
Speaker 2: of the guys from the city to watch kind of
Speaker 2: what those guys did, because that was like twenty twelve, thirteen,
Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen. It was definitely a different era. But all
Speaker 2: three of those guys, you know, fucking V signed a
Speaker 2: kid Ink, which was a big deal. Colin's at number
Speaker 2: one records at radio. Yeah, I could tell you juristics
Speaker 2: fucking got it. I think he's got an independent platinum record,
Speaker 2: at least a gold record.
Speaker 1: I gotta go to Bute Shots of Magic too. Way
Speaker 1: we talk, by the way I'll be talking. We can't
Speaker 1: forget about AMC Magic to Shot to Magic but shout
Speaker 1: out to Magic.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious, like, what what were your thoughts on
Speaker 2: that next era of asy hip hop that came.
Speaker 1: I felt like I felt like I wasn't like an
Speaker 1: Ol Bundy nigga dude walking around. J Rob shot to
Speaker 1: J Rob. I wasn't like the Ol Bundy dude with
Speaker 1: the football saying you know, this is what I could
Speaker 1: have done, I should have done, you know, anything like that.
Speaker 1: So I was always proud of Futuristic Colin this and
Speaker 1: all them. But I remember coming up, you know, Futuristic
Speaker 1: you know, he opened up for me a couples or
Speaker 1: whatever he always talked about that. I've done free versus
Speaker 1: for him just before you know, to take off and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And I've done things for him that,
Speaker 1: you know, even as I was declining down and he
Speaker 1: was coming up, you know what I mean, I've done things.
Speaker 1: But I think as people were coming up, not him,
Speaker 1: but just a lot of everyone else, a lot a
Speaker 1: lot of people including him, actually, I felt like they
Speaker 1: just started forgetting do you get what I'm saying? And
Speaker 1: so when I was watching a lot of that ship
Speaker 1: going on, I was proud of him. I didn't want
Speaker 1: them beef I didn't want Collins and Futuristic beef and
Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of corny, but I did.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I never considered them in my lane lane se.
Speaker 1: I just you know, they were definitely like but I
Speaker 1: didn't the next era. They were the next asy era.
Speaker 1: And I really respected Zach and Jacob Owens movement. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like the videos. That was like a flawless, like Futuristic
Speaker 1: is the best at that. That's why I'd be telling
Speaker 1: people when they compare us, they always compare us. It
Speaker 1: was just two different things. He can't do anything done.
Speaker 1: You know the thing about it, he's as far as
Speaker 1: what he's done, he's I would I would love to
Speaker 1: have his whole blueprint, you get what I'm saying figured
Speaker 1: out right. Yeah, So that's what we're doing. And I
Speaker 1: know he just got off.
Speaker 2: He was just on a tour, you know, Zach still
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he's pivoting a little bit more. He's
Speaker 2: still doing he's doing more Christian rap now and sign
Speaker 2: an artist and ship. But yeah, but that was that
Speaker 2: was just a pretty exciting pocket.
Speaker 1: He was hard. I told v what he was before
Speaker 1: you even messed with him. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: V kingam on studio. A lot of these j Rob
Speaker 1: Kanamo studio. A lot of these dudes came across me, brother,
Speaker 1: and I mean, I mean, I feel like it'd be
Speaker 1: hard to think what I'm saying, think about what I'm saying. Though.
Speaker 1: A lot of these dudes came across you know, and
Speaker 1: it's either you know, they don't, They're not gonna It's
Speaker 1: kind of like I always offered my service to people,
Speaker 1: but they only I feel like a lot of people
Speaker 1: only want my service if it's gonna value them. Now,
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody will want a song with Willie North,
Speaker 1: which I respect that, but that's not how it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because that's how the game goes sometimes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody want to work on me four months ago.
Speaker 2: But you got to notate those type of people though
Speaker 2: cheers we talk about, like I see that ship all
Speaker 2: the time. It's like people when they're not quote unquote hot,
Speaker 2: you know, first forget, but that they catch your record's out.
Speaker 1: The phone starts to get picked out. That's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's cool, that's cool, but I've never I've never people
Speaker 1: You can't sleep on these Listen, there's fame. And then
Speaker 1: there's egotistical talent when you you know, knowing that what
Speaker 1: I'm good at what I do, I've been doing it
Speaker 1: since I was eleven. Bro, So when I hear the
Speaker 1: flaws and these dudes, and when I hear the ship
Speaker 1: and when I hear how they can easily, they'll try
Speaker 1: to write me out. There's a reason I got to
Speaker 1: a point of what I was because of the talent. Correct.
Speaker 1: So if they can keep that talent confined and you know,
Speaker 1: locked up with something they'll keep. No one is gonna
Speaker 1: come out and help Willy. Willy had to come out
Speaker 1: of the gutter by himself, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's that's where I stand. But now it's personal.
Speaker 1: So and I'm gonna keep making you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep making these bangers after bangers, story good great songs
Speaker 1: after great songs. The wheelchair is gonna come under my butt.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be pushing it. I'm still be making great
Speaker 1: fucking music. We're just gonna keep going, bro, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I'm gonna show them how to
Speaker 1: do this where I'm from for real, CAF Who who
Speaker 1: do you like? That's uh coming up right now. Out
Speaker 1: of Ez, out of a Z. The dude that went
Speaker 1: against V what's his name, ohs from New York. I
Speaker 1: know he's from New York, but he lives in Arizona
Speaker 1: right now. But he's an alien, one of the great
Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of the greatest rappers on the planet.
Speaker 1: Low key like when he's on his ship. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I fuck with dude. I would do another. I would
Speaker 1: do a real record with I want to do a
Speaker 1: record them Magic. I think it's about time for that.
Speaker 1: Think about that. I think it's about time to do
Speaker 1: a record with Magic. Magic. Me and Magic got the
Speaker 1: I did a song called Back to Mexico when I
Speaker 1: was taking up for the SB ten. Uh. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we're going through that stuff. I stood up for the
Speaker 1: Latino community and they all came out and I did
Speaker 1: a video and MC Magic actually got on that remix.
Speaker 1: So that was dope. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Magic's doing sixty sold out shows a year right now.
Speaker 2: It's crazy him bashing Uh little rob are just murdering
Speaker 2: it right now.
Speaker 1: Fucking so I would do one, you know, as far
Speaker 1: as who else, I want to do one with Alexus
Speaker 1: Bro alexis that's easy. We can do it tomorrow. We
Speaker 1: do it today, Bro, Alexus, don't be man ninety seconds away.
Speaker 1: But I told Alexus man my studios. I don't think
Speaker 1: cav we can talk or we don't. I try to
Speaker 1: give it. I try to get Alexus on the album. Bro.
Speaker 1: I guess I sent him the record. Man, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying he might not like the bunch of work scratch. Hey,
Speaker 1: if he didn't like it, then you got communicated, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But on top of that, yeah,
Speaker 1: he did reach out to work again. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: The boys ten feet away is the studio he lives
Speaker 2: five seconds.
Speaker 1: That's only that's probably one of the that's in the
Speaker 1: studio right now. That's the only singer right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think he's got talent. Talent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my favorite rapper in Arizona right now that's on
Speaker 2: the come up.
Speaker 1: As Chris Coke. Yeah, Chris Coke's a fucking alien. And
Speaker 1: then I was watching Chris Coke Battles the other day. Man,
Speaker 1: he's he's good.
Speaker 2: There's there's a dude that's really I just got put
Speaker 2: on kid friendly. He's a Christian rapper though, but he's
Speaker 2: actually and I'm an atheist, so I don't relate to
Speaker 2: none of that ship. But he's not really like a
Speaker 2: Christian rapper like preaching. He just don't cuss in his bars.
Speaker 2: But he's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is this is I'm really trying to
Speaker 1: get out of the Arizona talk though. Man, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to we bigger than this. Calf in fifteen years we
Speaker 1: got a cover a lot. Bro Listen, I get you know,
Speaker 1: me stepping out. That's your fault, man, that is that
Speaker 1: my fault. That's your fucking fault. That's all y'all thought.
Speaker 1: Fucking you did hack your fucking laptop. No you did,
Speaker 1: by ten Calf, you did. And I bought album job
Speaker 1: and I gave them out at the radio play the
Speaker 1: record I had, like, I think I saw three.
Speaker 2: In the plastic in storage because I gave the other
Speaker 2: ones out, Thank you man.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was.
Speaker 2: I was living in Idaho. I went to some where
Speaker 2: did I go, Oh, there was a store out there called.
Speaker 1: Hastings. That's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, well listen, man, the new album is.
Speaker 1: Out broad with theater. People can go support it. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you got more visuals coming, uh, we just I
Speaker 1: just shot the chocolatelo video and I just shot my
Speaker 1: cook video.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're putting up tons of content, which is
Speaker 2: we shot the official videos. You know what I'm saying though,
Speaker 2: But even just like the content you're putting out is
Speaker 2: dope and it's consistent.
Speaker 1: We hit a million views and then I had a
Speaker 1: what seven thousand followers? I hit a million views with
Speaker 1: seven thousand followers? Do you know how good you have
Speaker 1: to be? Am I bragging? Do y'all think I'm being caught?
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of myself. Man, that's a big deal. Brother.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I got married off of
Speaker 1: this type of stuff. I'm happy off of this. You know,
Speaker 1: everything just came together. Like the way people are receiving
Speaker 1: my music right now is just the way I've always
Speaker 1: pictured it. M hm. So whatever happens from this point on,
Speaker 1: it is just gonna just be better for me. But
Speaker 1: right now I'm happy as fuck because the energy is crazy.
Speaker 1: That's good man. Anybody from back in the day reaching
Speaker 1: out like on the on the DTP side or on
Speaker 1: all of them g UNIT side, I ain't gonna say
Speaker 1: gun A couple of people from gun it reached out,
Speaker 1: but most of the camp from DTP reached out. I
Speaker 1: got a real call from DTP. One of the dudes,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say who, but he's like, man, they're watching,
Speaker 1: everybody's watching. That's dope. So that's dope. I mean, Tiffany's back.
Speaker 1: That's big. That's that's all I want. That's all she
Speaker 1: got to put you a hit maker. That's all I
Speaker 1: cared about. You have the hit maker Willie's song coming soon.
Speaker 1: Once I knew she came back. Because she can't manage
Speaker 1: something if it ain't if it don't want to be managed,
Speaker 1: I can ask her to manage me all day. Tiffany,
Speaker 1: what was the name of that weird promotionals company that
Speaker 1: was on you? You were a part of it, weren't
Speaker 1: You were passing out flyers and shipped some street team
Speaker 1: company back in the day. What was it? What was
Speaker 1: the name of it?
Speaker 2: Were you like hiring interns and ship I was an
Speaker 2: intern passing out flyers. I had a double bag of
Speaker 2: flyers that I was on. I was on Mason fucking
Speaker 2: Fiestam all passing out Yes. Wow, I just it's so
Speaker 2: funny because that light I didn't even I've never even
Speaker 2: thought of that until this very second. I was taking
Speaker 2: the motherfucking forty five the Broadway bus from fucking the
Speaker 2: South Side to Mesa, and I don't Yeah, that's crazy,
Speaker 2: because I think I heard about it on the radio.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout to Tiffany Jay Arizona. Goat Tiffany.
Speaker 1: Oh man, man, come on man, rocking with the best.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Willie the new albums out, everyone goes support it, man,
Speaker 2: go buy it too. You gotta go onnes and put
Speaker 2: some money in your merchers out.
Speaker 1: Yep, the merchers out. We got the album is The
Speaker 1: album is is something that from what I'm hearing, there's
Speaker 1: no Skippers on it, you know, there's no Phillers. They
Speaker 1: calling it a classic. You got to get a menu
Speaker 1: item at Phillies. Yeah, get the pole chocolate kind of shit.
Speaker 1: We were talking about it, Yeah, we was talking about it.
Speaker 1: We're trying to get it, man, I'm fucking philibertos Many.
Speaker 2: They just sent me on slides in the mail. You said, what,
Speaker 2: They just sent me a bunch of ship in the
Speaker 2: mail because I shouted them out in the MC magic interview,
Speaker 2: so they said hello ship. I was like Hey, I
Speaker 2: guess I'll wear these filiberto swim trunks next time I'm
Speaker 2: on vacation.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm gonna give a couple of shots out if
Speaker 1: you go ahead. I want to give a shout out
Speaker 1: to Donnie or JEWELR who got me looking nice. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We don't get none of this back.
Speaker 1: And like, hey, my ship, what happened to your old chain?
Speaker 2: What was the story of someone snatched it out of
Speaker 2: your car while you were inside of a store, some
Speaker 2: Blockbuster you were in. I was gonna say Blockbuster, Blockbuster,
Speaker 2: you were in a Blockbuster and someone.
Speaker 1: Listen, somebody threw a spark plug to my fucking wing.
Speaker 1: I remember you told me they just bought the Kanye
Speaker 1: CD and you just about a brand new gun. Because
Speaker 1: this was like you had to ate the first time. Jim,
Speaker 1: I had a gym bag. Yes, I had a gym
Speaker 1: but I just got my disturbing the piece and my
Speaker 1: AZ piece. It was connecting diamonds. I had it in
Speaker 1: my gym back American Me was returning the movie. Bro,
Speaker 1: I walked there for five fucking minutes, five minutes. This
Speaker 1: chip just I don't know everybody, I don't know if
Speaker 1: she set it up. I don't know what. I don't
Speaker 1: think she did, but I had to cut her off
Speaker 1: after that, just just in case. I felt she was crying.
Speaker 1: But I went inside of the American. We dropped off
Speaker 1: the movie American. Me came out someone through a spark
Speaker 1: plug through my window. Whole gym bag was gone. Bro.
Speaker 1: I fucking then I had a shoulder next day after Celebrity,
Speaker 1: so I'm doing this whole show with no jewelry, and
Speaker 1: I felt like the people that took my shit was
Speaker 1: in there hunted. So I'm whoever the fuck No, I'm
Speaker 1: talking shit on the mic and shit and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, but that shit happened to me. I was.
Speaker 1: I was inside of a store for maybe not, but
Speaker 1: I never got robbed though, Man, no, no, no, I
Speaker 1: seeing happened to me.
Speaker 2: I fucking went to the bank. I had probably like
Speaker 2: twenty now, I had like sixteen bands on me and
Speaker 2: it was during COVID. Yeah, so you remember the bank
Speaker 2: lines during COVID were crazy. So I went to go
Speaker 2: deposit this cash. I was like, man, fuck this line.
Speaker 2: Someone that saw me with the blue deposit bag and
Speaker 2: it was fat fuck. So someone followed me. I went
Speaker 2: to a Kinkos to fucking get something notarized, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: legit in the kinkos for maybe a minute and a
Speaker 2: half and Alexis is with me, and I'm like, hey, yo,
Speaker 2: my window rolled down, go roll that ship up? Becomes
Speaker 2: bass like bro, shit's busted off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, damn, got you to sixteen at my
Speaker 1: laptop and I bro was I wanted.
Speaker 2: I never wanted to take someone's life so badly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I had money out there.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, you know by you know Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan's stamped body marked up he did in My lion T.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan had that happened, Man, I was on stage.
Speaker 1: I performed it. Uh, we're at it was a disturbing
Speaker 1: the peace party, Okay, Jordan's just there. Jordan was there.
Speaker 1: He actually pushed us to the side. Me and Chinky
Speaker 1: pushed us to the side. He had like forty women
Speaker 1: with him and they at our party. Michael Jordan had
Speaker 1: forty women. I say fifteen. Shout out to Jordan. Man
Speaker 1: pushed us to the side. Judge, Mathes run like that
Speaker 1: too at My lion T. I don't doubt it. Judge
Speaker 1: Matthes run like that Judge. Time met Judge Matthes, he
Speaker 1: pulled up in a van with fifteen females. Facts good
Speaker 1: for him. And he was with Metapeace with old boy
Speaker 1: around our test. That's my nig too shot at that time.
Speaker 1: That's big man. We'll support the album. Yeah, come by man.
Speaker 1: But Michael Jordan, just real quick, Michael Jordan said that
Speaker 1: body he was he was sitting behind me when I
Speaker 1: was rapping. Uh. They put him on the stage behind
Speaker 1: us and he tapped me on the shoulder and he's
Speaker 1: like that body marked up. But the body marked that
Speaker 1: their body. That's how he said. The m J stamp
Speaker 1: Much love, sir,