WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: The Last Chance 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:04.680 Hig and everybody. 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:08.600 I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast. 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:13.560 The This may be the last chance addition as the 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.760 Bengals get ready for their final preseason game on Thursday 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:21.360 night against Indianapolis. Coming up, I'll talk to my broadcast partner, 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.960 Dave Lapham about Tuesday's joint practice with the Colts, and 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.920 then I'll go one on one with one of the 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:31.480 last picks in this year's draft, who is making a 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:35.040 strong case for being on the Bengals fifty three man roster. 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.760 The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by pay Corps, 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:42.800 proud to be the Bengals official HR software provider, by 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:47.440 Alta Fiber future proof fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business, 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.680 and community to a new level, and by Kettering Health 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.880 the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health is 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.440 the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Now here's a 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.320 quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.680 this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:08.640 by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:13.520 thing since long shots. Getting a shot in the final 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:18.520 preseason game It's common among fans and media, especially media, 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:22.840 to make snarky comments about the final week of preseason games, 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:28.039 especially when starters don't play. But I like seeing the 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:32.280 long shots get their opportunity to shine in an NFL uniform. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.959 Every single guy out there on Thursday night is a 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.560 great player. Maybe not great enough to make a fifty 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.400 three man roster, but think of how hard it is 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.840 just to be on an NFL training camp roster. For 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:50.000 hundreds of guys who have been playing this sport for 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:54.000 most of their lives, the final preseason game is the 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:57.680 last time they will ever play football. So I look 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.840 forward to seeing all of them take the field don Thursday. 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.280 No matter what the record books say, they'll be able 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:10.360 to tell their kids and grandkids about playing in the NFL. Now, 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.040 let's get to football and an in depth look at 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:19.600 Tuesday's joint practice with my broadcast partner Dave lappham lapped. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.520 The joint practice with the Indianapolis Colts is over. It's 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:26.600 kind of the unofficial end of training camp. Joe Burrow 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.520 had a full training camp. It's happened for the first 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:30.600 time in his NFL career. 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.760 Yeah, it has happened. Zach announced that you know, maybe 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.320 a couple of starters will be sprinkled in, but the 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.840 starters won't be going on Thursday night. And as opposed 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.240 to the Indianapolis Colts, which we're talking about playing their 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.680 starters for a couple of quarters. But it is good 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:49.600 to have Joe Burrow upright, healthy, happy, got a lot 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:53.840 of reps in you look at joint practices for two 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.359 straight weeks, that's a lot of reps because the way 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.880 you know, it's ones against ones, twos against twos. It's 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.760 not you know, you like switching off. You're going every 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:06.760 single rep, as are the other groups. So it's it's 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.480 a lot of good work there, there's no question about that, 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.200 and I'm glad to see that he was able to 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:14.560 sustain all the way through it. 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.359 Here were Joe's numbers today. In the practice against the Colts. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.840 They opened up with a red zone seven on seven 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:22.760 period he was five or six with a pair of 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.400 touchdown passes, one to t Higgins, one to Micah Sicki. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.359 Then in the eleven on eleven periods had him twenty 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.839 one for twenty six. That's eighty one percent. He did 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.040 throw an interception which was kind of strange. I'd be 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:37.600 interested to hear what he had to say about it, 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.240 because he just kind of threw it up for grabs, 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.360 which is very Unburrow like. But overall, would you. 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.760 Think, Yeah, I thought he was efficient. I thought he 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:50.080 was smart with the football. A lot of intermediate short 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:53.960 passes used his screen game. Well, it didn't put the 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.080 ball on jeopardy, like you said, other than that that 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.800 one interception, and he knows what he's looking at. You know, 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.360 he's seeing it, seeing it and going where he needs 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.600 to go. And I think he started identifying weapons. You know, 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:07.360 he's sick he was a weapon on third down or 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.720 weapon in the red zone. I mean, I think his 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:14.440 screen game was was to all all position groups, you know, 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.080 went to running backs, went to tight ends, went to receivers. 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.000 And I think that screen game is going to be 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.680 a big part of the package on a you know, 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:22.800 I don't know if it's going to be a week 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:24.520 to week basis, but they can drop up on it 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:29.520 really at any any any time. But again, I thought 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:34.479 having back to back weeks of joint practices, as did 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.400 the Indianapolis Colts, they did the same thing they had 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.920 the Arizona Cardinals in in Indianapolis. So I thought that 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:46.640 the that the energy level, the performance, the juice was 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:47.320 pretty high. 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:47.560 You know. 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:51.040 I think I think the Bengals ran the exact same 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.440 script in this joint practice as they did in Chicago, 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.240 So the players knew exactly what they were looking at, 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.839 and you know, you have that kind of you know 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.320 and said, well, I know what's coming up next, I'm prepared. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.840 I think it just enhances the opportunity for good performances, 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:10.360 and I you know, honestly, in my mind, I think 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.880 eventually national football is going to go to one exhibition 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.720 game and they're going to have joint practices and start 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:22.120 charging for him and have multiple joint practices, let players, 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.360 you know, and coaches get ready that way and in 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:29.760 maybe just one preseason game to really evaluate the guys 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.760 that you want to decide on the final you know, 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:34.760 back end of your roster. Who are you going to 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:36.800 keep on your practice squad, who you're not kind of thing. 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:38.080 I think it's evolved in that way. 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.520 You mentioned Mike Kasiki. I had him for four catches 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.600 during the eleven on eleven periods, two for first downs, 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:48.039 plus an incredible one handed catch on a back shoulder 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:52.839 throw did we see today what Mike Kasiki is going 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:54.839 to mean to this Beangals offense, because I think by 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.520 and large in camp he's been fine, but he hasn't 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.400 had breakout days very often. 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:03.239 Yeah, he's kind of just been lurking, you know. And 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.960 the thing about him and Zach mentioned it, I mean, 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.960 he is a quick study. He understands football, you know, 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.360 he sees it. I get a kick out of watching 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:16.520 him lineup and when he when he basically flexes into 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.400 the slot and he starts looking around, It's like, oh boy, 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.839 now you know defense is in trouble. He's he's getting 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.240 a pre snap look, getting on the same page with 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.200 that quarterback. And I think he's got the confidence of 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:30.320 all the quarterbacks, particularly number nine, which is which is big. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.440 You know, as as the regular season approaches here, he's 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.520 been around the block. You know, this is his third 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:40.520 organization and he's had to learn and unlearned offenses and 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.600 relearn other ones, and and he can handle it. He's 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.680 got a mental capacity for the game of football. There's 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:46.159 no question. 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:50.200 Under rainy conditions last week in Chicago, Joe had trouble 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:53.280 throwing deep and throwing outside the numbers down the field. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.760 He was victimized by a ton of drops by his teammates. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.719 No such problems today. As you noted, most of his 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:04.600 throat were me intermediate or short, but they were accurate. 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.720 And he threw a couple to T. Higgins who was 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.120 blanketed and they were still. 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:13.160 Caught absolutely, And that was you know, faith and trust 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.880 in tea because T, I mean he high pointed that 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:19.320 first one. It was like six born up. He climbed 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.800 the ladder. Man. It's like, oh my gosh, he would 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:23.720 have been doing a behind the head dunk on that 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:27.160 bad boy. He got up and yeah, you know T 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.600 T obviously is uh is gifted and they're on the 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.800 same page. There's no no question about another guy that 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.160 I thought showed up early and showed his speed with 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.880 you know, check downs and screened Chase brown Man, he's 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:42.600 gonna he's he's got that home run hitting speed, and 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.000 you know you add him to the mix, particularly if 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.160 you know when Jamar comes back. You know, you know, 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.680 Jamar and T. Higgins and Yosi made some plays again 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.120 today like he's been doing you know, all a camp. 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:58.080 It's it's like it's gonna be an embarrassment of riches there, 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.840 and I think that with the what they're going to 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.040 have to do defensively to control the receivers, that I mean, 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:06.680 the middle of the football field is going to be 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.240 there for the taken and I think Kasiki is a 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:10.080 guy that can take it. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.720 In a joint practice, it's hard to watch the offense 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.560 and the defense because it's going on on separate fields. 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:20.280 At the same time, I was watching every snap that 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.640 Burrow took today, so I didn't see a ton of defense. 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.000 But when I did watch and when I talked to people, 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.600 it sounded like the number one defense was pretty dominant. 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.400 When Anthony Richardson was in a quarterback for the Colts. 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.000 Yeah, I think I think I would agree with that. 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.360 And you know, I mean Anthony Richardson, by the way, 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.800 six four, two sixty, he came on the field, It's like, 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.119 is this an edge rush guy? Is this an outside linebacker? 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.720 Oh my gosh, man, you know, because I like, it's 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:48.800 in the two forties or whatever. Last year and he 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:52.040 just bulked up, but he still got use man, he 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:56.080 still got quickness, short space quickness, and you know, a 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:58.480 lot of times and then Joe Flacco started doing the 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.040 same thing. Tucket and run. I mean, they got the 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.160 jersey on where they can't be hit. You know, it's 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.600 not like you're game planning to basically hit the quarterback. 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.880 So but I'm telling you, Richardson is a guy that's 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.280 going to make a lot of offscript players with his legs, 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.840 you know, and then using those legs to you know, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.800 create for his throwing opportunities for his arm as well. 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.560 He's going to be an off schedule guy to deal 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.200 with around the league because when he gets going, he 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.120 gets going quickly. I mean he gets he can accelerate quickly, 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.360 and he's got that two hundred and sixty pound body. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.280 Man that's really moving. He's a he's a rare breed. 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:34.600 He's kind of like one of one right now. I 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:38.000 Mean I was saying, you know, he's a he's a 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:42.080 mix of Cam Newton, you know, and and Lamar Jackson. 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.120 I don't know, I think he's in a different category. 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.360 I mean, he's he almost looks like a Martian man. 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.440 He's almost an Ailien out there. So the thing the 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.240 thing that struck me though, when I'm thinking about him, 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.720 you know, and I'm thinking about you know, DeForest Buckner 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.560 and other players in that football team. Everybody's got giants. 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.199 I mean this league is like, man, everybody's got studs. 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:05.800 They can walk it out in the field. I mean, 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.280 the Indianapolis Cults are a big football team. They've got 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:13.440 they've got size. Everywhere the NFL is it's just it's crazy. 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:17.760 Everybody's ah, everybody's got talent, and everybody's going to be 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.720 a challenge. And that's that's nature of the beasts in 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:20.600 this league for sure. 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.880 What about the on script plays for Anthony Richardson because 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:28.480 I overheard somebody say at times he appeared reluctant to 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:32.680 let it rip, you know, when trying to execute the offense. 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.680 Yeah, I think he was like and I really see 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.360 what I'm saying, Am I seeing it right? 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:37.480 You know? 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:41.520 I think there was some hesitancy there Flacco, you know, 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:45.040 I mean I thought he operated as an NFL quarterback 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:49.720 much more proficiently. And how about that guy you know 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.000 last week it was Mercedes Lewis nineteenth year in the 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.599 NFL at tight end, Joe Flacco seventeenth year in the 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:59.080 NFL at the quarterback position. And to me, I mean, 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:02.200 he's moving is well or better than he ever has really, 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.520 you know, and he's he still can spin it. Man. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.000 He throws a pretty ball, and he throws it accurately, 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:10.559 So you know, they've got a nice insurance policy there. 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.120 And if he ends up playing quite a bit, you 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.400 know though, I mean for a five million bucks, that's 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:15.920 a pretty good deal to get a guy who's played 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.440 seventeen years in the NFL. If he plays more, he 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.920 earns more. But that's that's not a bad deal for 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:22.600 both sides. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.560 I wasn't able to pay too much attention to the 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.440 one on one pass rushing drills. I did see Joseph 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.520 Osai beat a left tackle who didn't even lay a 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.200 finger on him. It was a very impressive rush. Were 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:35.520 you able to watch much of that? 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.720 Yeah, I watched. I watched some of that, and like 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.160 you said, Dan, I was trying to watch both and 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.800 from a long distance, because you get halfway and you 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:44.880 you know, you're swinging your. 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:45.720 Head back and forth. 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.360 You feel like the Exorcist almost, you know, trying to 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.120 spin your head around and follow everything that you want 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:54.959 to follow. Trent Brown had a difficult first rep. He 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.200 got beaten quickly. I'm not sure how many fingers were 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:02.119 laid on you on the pass rush. Are there but overall, 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:06.320 I mean I thought that it was it was good work. Again, 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.840 havn't been in that drill. If you're locked onto somebody 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.920 and and they're you know, taking it an edge eventually 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:16.200 and you're widing them, it's so unrealistic because there's just 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.400 so much real estate there. It's you know, it's like 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:20.880 the only thing you don't want to do in that 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.520 situation is with you know, if you if you get 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.160 a piece and they and they don't have a definite 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.720 edge on you. I mean they're maybe they're on your shoulder, 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:33.000 but you're still controlling them. I mean that's that's difficult 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.760 for them to hit a gap that tightly and you 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.040 know they don't have the edge on you, they're not 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.280 going to necessarily win that pass rush. So I thought 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.480 both I thought both units, uh handle that part of 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.200 it pretty well. I do think the Bengals offensive line 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:51.040 projects to be pretty darn good pass protectors now, you know, 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.319 get the pad level down and all that sort of 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.520 thing for the running game. But I do think and 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.840 Willie Anderson what was here today? And uh, you know, 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.000 I asked Willie about I said, you've seen these guys 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:02.600 now A couple of times a training camp. What do 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.200 you think about them as Pat He goes, yeah, Man, 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.200 I like them too, Shaid. I think they're good pass protectors. 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.200 It was a little bit of a day for Royalty. 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:13.199 Ken Anderson was here today, Paul Alexander, Tim Crumwright, Jim Anderson, 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.520 Willie Anderson. It was kind of a role call of 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.360 a form of Bengals coaches and players or both like 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:20.160 Kenny Anderson. 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.600 I will add Dave Lapham to that list in Bengals Royalty. 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.200 Jamar Chase was standing in between the two fields watching today, 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.240 as has typically been the case during most of training camp. 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:34.000 It's not all he's doing. He is getting workouts on 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.320 the side. We saw him come in from the practice 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:40.000 field before the activities got started today. Are we getting 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.360 close to the point or are we at the point 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.560 where he needs to be out there practicing if he's 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.120 going to be the player we're accustomed to seeing. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.920 Yeah, it's getting there, Dan and he has. He's been 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.920 going in the bubble and when he and Tea early on, 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.320 when t was not working very much at the beginning, 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.320 they were really running hard at the bubble. I mean 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.760 they were hundred yard striders running forties and all that 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.319 sort of thing, and that's great, and then running routes, 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.640 but on air, you know, and it's like it's it's 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.360 it's different when you know, you get equipment on and 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.480 somebody's putting their hands on you, and now you got 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.680 to you know, it's not like you're free and clear 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:17.520 to run easily. It's like, now you've got to run 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.480 football plays and football routes where you're stopping and starting 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.000 and you're pushing and pulling with other bodies all you know, 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.040 trying to do the same thing to you. It's it's 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:30.920 just a different dynamic. So, yeah, he's got he's got 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:34.720 to get in in camp, get through that period. There's 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.440 going to be some soreness there along with that, and 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:40.440 and just and just get ready to roll and cardiovasculi 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:44.040 and everything else. And conditioning wise, I have no qualms about, 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.840 you know, what he's going to be doing. Although you know, 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:51.320 missing these joint practices and when the twelve play drive 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.440 that they went on, there's conditioning there. There's conditioning in 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.040 these joint practices. They take a good number of reps 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.200 and you're losing the football conditioning there's different. You know, 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.800 it's not track and field. You know, the cardiovasco part 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.080 of it is one part of it. We always talked 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:09.520 about the football conditioning being another and you know, totally 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.680 different and I can attest to it, you know, as alignment. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.440 It's totally different, but it is for skilled players as well. 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.560 Charlie Jones made several catches today, so he is fully back. 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:22.040 Sam Hubbard didn't participate, but he was in uniform. He 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.960 started doing some stuff at practice yesterday. So two key 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.040 players will clearly be good to go when the regular 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:28.800 season begins. 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:33.640 Absolutely, I think they're being you know, careful and wisely careful. 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.640 With Sam Hubbard, he did individual, some individual stuff today, 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.120 but that was it. He didn't do anything more, and 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:41.960 you know you're not going to see him do anything more, 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.280 I don't think until it gets closer to the to 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.960 the regular season. So you know, I have no problem 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:52.960 with that. I know that. You know Sam, you talk 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.640 about a guy that's ready every day of his life 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.480 for any kind of physical activity that you wanted to perform. 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:05.120 It's Sam Hubbard. So you know it's this just comes 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.360 to mind too. I mean, you know, we're watching these kickers. 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.760 When we were talking to Money Mack about you know 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.000 the distances, and you know he said he hit one 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.640 from sixty eight in the off season and his off 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.880 season workouts and everything. Sixty two yard was hit today 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.760 by Gay like Mike, it was a chip shot. Yeah, 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.600 I mean, it really is crazy the range that these 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:29.400 guys have. I mean, you know, they're not only bigger, stronger, 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.680 faster in terms of you know, at the line of scrimmage, 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.640 but these kickers man there, I don't know if they 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.160 have dynamite caps in their shoes or what, because man, 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.840 that ball is just blown off of their toe. It 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:42.560 is absolutely nuts. It really is. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.840 And there is video of the sixty eight yarder by 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:51.000 Evan McPherson on Twitter Cole's kicking camp Kohl. If you 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.480 look up that their Twitter account, you can see footage 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.600 of that sixty eight yard field goal. Final thing. The 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.600 preseason finale is coming up Thursday night at eight o'clock. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.640 As you mentioned earlier, the Colts are expected to play 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.800 their starters for a half. The Bengals are not going 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.320 to play their starters. Is there anything in particular you'd 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:13.880 like to see or are looking for on Thursday night? 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:18.320 Yeah, I mean, the the number twos and threes, that 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.240 played in particularly last week's game in Chicago. Just clean 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.320 it up, you know, hold on to the football, don't 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:29.080 turn the football over. Eleven penalties for you know, over 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.359 one hundred and twenty yards. I mean, you're just given 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:35.119 the football game away. So I'd like to see, you know, 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:39.960 those those young players, you know, take themselves off their schedule. 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:42.280 The Colts number ones are going to be a load. 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:44.399 It's gonna they're going to be you know, they'll be 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:46.920 working against a Pro Bowl center and a Pro Bowl 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.159 left guard. The interior defensive players that that's going to 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:54.840 be good work for those guys. The number one offensive 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.439 line and skilled players are going to be going against 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:02.680 two good defensive tacks, a really good inside linebacker who 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.520 the defensive tackles keep clean so he makes a million tackles. 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:07.720 And then you go to the state position. They got 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.600 a great player there. It's like we talk about in baseball, 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.639 catch a shortstop center field. The interior the middle of 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.600 that Colts defense is pretty darn good. And you know, 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.000 and then they go and they get a you know, 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.199 a rookie out of UCLA and edge guy. This dude, 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.720 he was a lot bigger than I thought, a lot too, uh, 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.120 six five to sixty five, and he looks every bit 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.040 of that. I mean, he looked good on the edge. 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:32.200 So it's like man, like we said before, everybody's got players, 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:33.400 everybody's good. 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.240 It's the big show. It's the NFL. 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.600 Good way to wrap it up. Look forward to being 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.280 in the booth with you on Thursday. 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:41.600 Night, Same here, Dan as always. 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.840 Thursday's game kicks off at eight o'clock with the Amazon 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:50.000 Prime crew in town, including Al Michaels, Kirk krb Street, 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:54.639 and former Bengals great Andrew Whitworth. The Bengals Booth Podcast 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.560 is brought to you by pay Corps, proud to be 0:18:56.680 --> 0:19:01.560 the Bengals official hr software provider, Alta Fiber future proof 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:05.200 fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business, and community 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.919 to a new level, and by Kettering Health the best 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:12.240 care for the best fans. Kettering Health is the official 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:16.760 healthcare provider of the Bengals. For the second straight preseason game, 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:21.520 the Bengals offensive starters are not expected to play. That 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:26.400 means extensive playing time for backups, including rookie center Matt Lee. 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.760 The seventh round pick out of the University of Miami, 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:34.600 took every offensive snap in Saturday's game in Chicago and 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:38.960 did well. In fact, according to Pro Football Focus, Lee 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:42.920 has been on the field for fifty pass blocking snaps 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:47.160 in the first two preseason games without giving up a sack, hit, 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:52.000 or hurry. Lee was chosen number two thirty seven overall 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:55.960 in this year's draft. There were only twenty picks after him, 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.720 but right now he stands a very good chance of 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.880 being ted. Carris is back up. I talked to him 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:08.159 this week. Matt, you are from Oviedo, Florida, which is 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:10.880 close to Orlando, and went to college at two schools 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:13.520 in Florida. Is this the first time you have spent 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.800 a big chunk of time outside of the Sunshine State? 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:18.159 Yes. Absolutely. 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:20.240 I've been to a bunch of different states to play 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.840 football games and here and there for vacation or whatever 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:26.960 growing up, but for longer than probably a week max, 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:28.760 or maybe a little longer, depend on the vacation. This 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.600 has been far and away the longest siven out of Florida. 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:33.280 What if anything, do you miss about home? 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.119 You know, family and friends, and you know there's a 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.280 level of comfort being around where you're from, you know 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:43.600 what I mean, whether that's in Orlando or the past 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.720