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Speaker 2: Experience The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annik

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Speaker 2: and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love them.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of them.

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Speaker 5: You're that bus tonight.

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Speaker 6: Thanks.

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Speaker 7: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 4: You're your hosts.

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Speaker 2: John Annik and Kenny Florian's.

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Speaker 8: Live on a Monday, August fourth. The year is twenty

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Speaker 8: twenty five. At his episode five hundred and sixty one

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Speaker 8: of the anicin Florin Podcasts, brought to you by DraftKings. DraftKings,

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Speaker 8: the crown is yours, Kenny. It's great to see you.

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Speaker 8: So every week. In our pre show meeting, we talked

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Speaker 8: to our executive producer Cody Merrow, who is a man

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Speaker 8: who can dish it out and can also take it.

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Speaker 8: If you follow our producer Cody Merrow on X, you

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Speaker 8: know he can be a dick. He can also take

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Speaker 8: it if you give it back to him, and that's

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Speaker 8: all we're looking for. So hopefully he hasn't brought all

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Speaker 8: of his feelings today and he isn't super sensitive because

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Speaker 8: I would like to leave the show with his dog, Scuba,

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Speaker 8: a more attractive dog maybe I have not seen, but

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Speaker 8: every single week for about three hundred episodes, you know

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Speaker 8: where I'm going. You know exactly where the fuck I'm going.

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Speaker 8: Scuba snores intensely, really loudly, really loudly. The adverb is loudly.

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Speaker 8: That dog snores really fucking loudly. And if that was

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Speaker 8: my dog Mazie snoring like that, there would have to

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Speaker 8: be some sort of long term fix. So, Tody, I

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Speaker 8: don't know if your mic is hot, Kenny, I'd like

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Speaker 8: to get your thoughts on this before we get into

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Speaker 8: all of the mixed martial ts. But Dude, that dog

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Speaker 8: Cody like even for you at this point, like, I mean,

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Speaker 8: you might as well just get a woman that fucking

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Speaker 8: snores too.

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Speaker 4: That's like white noise, you know, just like the woman

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Speaker 4: would be Oh.

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Speaker 8: Gosh, that scuba right there, that's gotta be yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he needs to see an e nt that Marian specialists.

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Speaker 8: I'm telling you, you know across the room.

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Speaker 6: He's like halfway across my room, right wow, dude.

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Speaker 8: So I don't know what I would do if my

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Speaker 8: significant others snored. I mean, certainly I have children who

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Speaker 8: at times have snored. Not gonna throw you under the

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Speaker 8: bus here, Tatum, But what do I do in my

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Speaker 8: I shake the bed, I affect change. You know, my

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Speaker 8: best friend in the world used to snore when he

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Speaker 8: I'll fucking punch him square in the back to get

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Speaker 8: him to stop snore.

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Speaker 5: Man, ear plugs are a dad's best friend, John.

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Speaker 8: So what do you what do you do at anti

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Speaker 8: Florian pod? And I don't need a clip of this

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Speaker 8: Mike Jones necessarily, but like, what do you do, Kenny,

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Speaker 8: in all seriousness if your dog snores like that, Cody,

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Speaker 6: So my dog, my dog makes a lot of like

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Speaker 5: So he's not allowed to sleep in our bedroom, so

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I guess that's the only solution anyway.

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Speaker 8: It's just done on me that three hundred plus shows.

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Speaker 8: Now we just sort of grin and Barrett as Scuba

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Speaker 8: completely interrupts and disrupts our pre show meeting. Hope everybody

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Speaker 8: had a good weekend, very much looking forward to this

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Speaker 8: pay per view on August sixteenth. We will spend a

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Speaker 8: chunk of time today on UFC Fight Night tie to

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Speaker 8: Brian Petrie is coming up to give some predictions. We

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Speaker 8: be joined by former UFC Flyweight world title challenger Steve

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Speaker 8: astro boy ersteg He is in Las Vegas. Been a

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Speaker 8: Ray Longo coming up at the bottom of the hour,

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Speaker 8: by Quervo. Now is a good time to enjoy the

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Speaker 8: tequila that invented tequila. So tatsuro Tyra Kenny over Jung

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Speaker 8: or something to that ILK at one six mark of

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Speaker 6: I think that he came in with a whole lot

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Speaker 5: Really but he came back looking way sharper.

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Speaker 6: On the feet, his hand looked phenomenal. He was mixing

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Speaker 6: this is a fighter that seems very much committed to evolving.

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Speaker 6: He is going to be someone to watch, and I

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Speaker 6: But as we know John, to do that in the

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Speaker 8: It's so interesting, right, and DC thinks this is one

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Speaker 6: He has a ton of talent, There's no question about that.

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Speaker 6: So I think he can get there, There's no question

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Speaker 8: At att things can move expeditiously at one hundred and

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Speaker 5: The problem is Pantosa's beaten.

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Speaker 6: I think that Tyra needs to take some other fights

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Speaker 8: So yeah, yeah, So Manel Cop is interesting. It's interesting

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Speaker 8: He was supposed to fight Brandon Royball when Joshua Van

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Speaker 8: and said, hey, write down three to five fighters that

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Speaker 8: you'd like to see. Robert Whitaker would be all across

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Speaker 8: those lists. So I can understand if UFC Fight Night

436
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Speaker 8: Tyra Versus Park wasn't your cup of tea, right, no crowd,

437
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 8: the UFC EPEX wasn't necessarily my cup of tea. I

438
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Speaker 8: did not go out of my way to watch it live.

439
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Speaker 8: I watched it for purposes of the Anak and Florian podcast.

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Speaker 8: If we were dark this week, I would have maybe

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Speaker 8: gone back and washed Mattow's round, Betsky and Chris Duncan

442
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Speaker 8: because I could smell the blood from here. I understand

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Speaker 8: if you don't like that ship, right, But the notion

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Speaker 8: that you know fans in Abu Dhabi want anything other

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Speaker 8: than Robert Whittaker, right, I mean, you know hamzat Chimaya,

446
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Speaker 8: Blau Muhammad. Those guys have a following in Abu Dhabi,

447
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Speaker 8: but aren't necessarily local to that region. You know, I

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Speaker 8: can't speak to why fans left. I'm curious to get

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Speaker 8: your thoughts on all of this, but I can assure

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Speaker 8: you in my experiences, as much as the Assies love

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Speaker 8: Jack dellam Atlanta and Alexander Volkanovski, they love to see

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Speaker 8: the American stars, even a guy like Kevin Holland you know,

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Speaker 8: they would love to see down on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I wonder if my perspective is a little bit different

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Speaker 6: than maybe the casual MMA fan, But for me, I

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Speaker 6: just want to see the best fights possible. I want

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Speaker 6: to see the guys with the big names, and Whittaker

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Speaker 6: certainly fits that bill. If Whittaker's fighting, I'm gonna tune

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Speaker 6: in to watch that fight, And his last one was

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Speaker 6: an amazing against RDR. So, you know, I think that's

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Speaker 6: what the fans want at the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: because even.

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Speaker 3: If you have two big names, but they put on

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Speaker 3: a terrible fight and like.

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Speaker 5: Well, well that's gonna be a sticker too. So I

467
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Speaker 5: think it comes down to.

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Speaker 6: Delivering action packed fights, right and then getting and giving

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Speaker 6: the fans the best names that you have available. And

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Speaker 6: I think that's what the UFC is doing. Not everyone's

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Speaker 6: not every fight's gonna deliver, you know. Obviously there's no

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Speaker 6: control over that of how the fighters fight. But I

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Speaker 6: think with the roster that the UFC has, I think

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Speaker 6: they've done a pretty amazing job.

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Speaker 8: Probably good day for me to wear my Joe Lopez

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Speaker 8: shir when I'm having this conversations, right, But I'm curious

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Speaker 8: for the aussis. Right if you could have Jack Dela

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Speaker 8: Madelena defending his title there, or Marob defending against Corey

479
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Speaker 8: Sandhagen or Umar and Nmagametov, which fight do you want?

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Speaker 8: And I bring up Morob because the guy is fucking

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Speaker 8: Elvis Presley right now. I mean, maybe Elvis is not

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Speaker 8: a good example because Elvis didn't even wow me and

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Speaker 8: I was born in nineteen seventy eight, But uh, who's

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Speaker 8: the modern day equivalent of Elvis? Right? I mean? Marob

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Speaker 8: Kenny is a global superstar. The biggest cheers consistently follow him,

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Speaker 8: whether we show him on pay per view or out

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Speaker 8: and about, and I believe if the Aussies could probably

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Speaker 8: handpick a guy and isn't it funny? People thought he

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Speaker 8: was fucking boring.

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Speaker 6: I know, I was just gonna say here was a

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Speaker 6: guy that he was not getting any respect on his.

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Speaker 5: Way to the title. Everyone's like, Oh, come on, you're gonna.

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Speaker 6: Give this guy a shot, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 5: But now look at him.

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Speaker 6: Look how he's done it, and look how he's done

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Speaker 6: it by earning it and now showing that amazing personality

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Speaker 6: that he has in charisma.

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Speaker 5: So uh, it's great to see that turn around.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 8: If I ever somehow had financial freedom and wealth, right,

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Speaker 8: and maybe you know, just won the lottery or something,

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Speaker 8: you know what I would put the money towards. I mean,

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Speaker 8: I would try to feed kids who are hungry, of course,

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Speaker 8: first and foremost. But the other thing would be to

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Speaker 8: try to put on another UFC live event at Sphere, Right,

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Speaker 8: because when Dana talks about it being the one and

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Speaker 8: the only, I cry a little bit on the inside, right,

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Speaker 8: and it brings me to the fight that I would

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Speaker 8: headline the Sphere show with Kamza Chimaya versus anyone, Right,

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Speaker 8: and he's fighting for the belt in twelve days against

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Speaker 8: treec is due plus c oh we have Ray Longo

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Speaker 8: when ready, Well, let us not keep a good man waiting.

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Speaker 8: Let's get to the star of the program and the

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Speaker 8: Ray Longo minute.

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Speaker 11: Now, time for the Ray Longo minute long a minute

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Speaker 11: the John Nick and Kenny Flooryan podcast.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I was enjoying you guys conversation, such such good chemistry.

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Speaker 8: Well, thank you, buddy. We were going to talk about

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Speaker 8: that duplessy she maya fight, But of course, as soon

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Speaker 8: as I saw the chat populated with your name, we

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Speaker 8: certainly don't want to keep you waiting, and you always

522
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Speaker 8: elevate the room and the conversation. How is your weekend,

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Speaker 8: my good.

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Speaker 3: Man, very good yours. You enjoying the East Coast? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I mean we got to see the Naked Gun movie

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Speaker 8: in the theater now, and I got to take my

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Speaker 8: daughter to the premiere last week after the podcast, which

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Speaker 8: was very exciting, you know, just for her to you know,

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Speaker 8: experience that was pretty wild. Not that anybody cared what

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Speaker 8: I had to say, but just you know, for her.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, John, that's big, that's big. Yeah, that's really

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Speaker 12: good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Said. The movie was good.

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Speaker 8: So I'm telling you guys, like, yeah, more importantly than

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Speaker 8: the little cameo that we had the movie was fantastic. Right,

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Speaker 8: So you guys know like scat wright, scat singing or whatever.

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Speaker 8: Do you know what I mean? It's like, shoot, we

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Speaker 8: doo up whatever? Yeah right, Ray, you know we're talking

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Speaker 8: about you're born in the nineteen fifties, like to.

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Speaker 3: Sing a good.

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Speaker 8: Yeah? Well whatever? Right right right. So it's a skill

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Speaker 8: and I didn't know Pamela Anderson had it. I didn't

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Speaker 8: realize that until after watching the movie that having that

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Speaker 8: acquired skill helped her land the role. But I'm watching

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Speaker 8: this movie live in the theater with my daughter and

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Speaker 8: Ken Flohan. Ray, Pamela Anderson is like crushing it doing

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Speaker 8: this little scat scene, and I'm just like, what the fuck?

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Speaker 8: How she's so good at that? You know? And then

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Speaker 8: I come to find out that she had that as

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Speaker 8: an ability going in. She absolutely murdered that role, crushed

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Speaker 8: it in every way. Liam Neeson, who I had not

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Speaker 8: a great encounter with a couple of months after filming

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Speaker 8: in New York City, but he was outstanding it.

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Speaker 3: And we don't even care about the movie. We want

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Speaker 3: to know about to that.

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Speaker 8: I'll circle back that. I'll tell you that did I

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Speaker 8: not tell you? All Right? So I guess we're doing that.

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Speaker 8: So but Leslie Nielsen and The Naked Gun, if you

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Speaker 8: haven't seen the originals, right right, I mean comedic genius, right,

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Speaker 8: there's gonna be you might be able to do as

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Speaker 8: good as that guy. But there's no way that Liam

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Speaker 8: Neeson on his best day could have been better than

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Speaker 8: Leslie Nielsen. There's just no way. Liam was outstanding. But

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Speaker 8: Leslie Nielsen put that role in a different stratosphere, all right,

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Speaker 8: So real quickly, So when we were filming The Naked Gun,

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Speaker 8: we had great interactions with Liam Neeson the whole time.

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Speaker 8: He's like in the octagon in Boxers, right, like half

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Speaker 8: naked because of what the scene entailed. And you know,

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Speaker 8: we got to meet him through the cage, which was

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Speaker 8: pretty cool. So a couple months after filming and he

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Speaker 8: had this one line and it got cut from the movie.

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Speaker 8: But Liam Neeson comes sort of down from the ceilings

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Speaker 8: half naked, and he had this line like your whole

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Speaker 8: generation is pathetic, right, and he kept saying it. I

575
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Speaker 8: must have heard him say this line a hundred times,

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Speaker 8: like your whole generation is pathetic.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 8: People close to me are so fucking sick to hear

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Speaker 8: me say this, Michael Bisbeck, Your whole generation is pathetic. Right.

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Speaker 8: So anyway, it was great filming with the guy. But

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Speaker 8: a couple months later, I'm with Daniel Cormier in New

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Speaker 8: York City at a voiceover studio and Liam Neeson's there,

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Speaker 8: and I had just seen his film Absolution in the theaters, right,

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Speaker 8: And so I walked up to Liam and I said, Hi,

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Speaker 8: nice to see you. I didn't say I was in

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Speaker 8: the Naked Gun with you. I said, hey, I just

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Speaker 8: saw Absolution in the theaters like a week ago. And

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Speaker 8: he says, you know, my late wife would always say

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Speaker 8: you should never walk up to an actor and say

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Speaker 8: you just saw his movie. You should say congratulations on

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Speaker 8: your movie.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 8: So I said to him, I said, go congratulations.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 8: I held back the fact that his bosson accent was

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Speaker 8: really not good, and I left the theater early. But anyway,

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Speaker 8: so I didn't know what to do. DC saw the

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Speaker 8: whole goddamn thing. You can ask him, right, So I

599
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Speaker 8: was like, oh, congratulations on Absolution. I actually was in

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Speaker 8: the Naked Gun with you. And then I sort of

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Speaker 8: dropped a your whole generation is pathetic on him in

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Speaker 8: his fucking accent and then he didn't know what to do,

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Speaker 8: you know what I mean. So I was hoping to

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Speaker 8: run into him at the premiere, so I give him

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Speaker 8: a piece of my goddamn mind. But uh, that's all true.

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Speaker 5: Actors.

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Speaker 12: Actors are a little funny, right right, Wait a minute,

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Speaker 12: he was too big for the premiere, is that what

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Speaker 12: you're saying.

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Speaker 8: No, he was at the premiere, but they certainly weren't

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Speaker 8: going to put me and him together. You know. It's

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Speaker 8: like they got people like me and others out of

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Speaker 8: the way before the real stars came to the Blue corpet,

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Speaker 8: you know. But no, I mean he was nice after

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Speaker 8: the fact, but yeah, it was disappointing that that's the

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Speaker 8: way our interaction went down.

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Speaker 12: So that's what they say, don't meet your want to

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Speaker 12: meet you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, but you you know what I'm saying,

620
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Speaker 3: he's somebody's hero in.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that Schmoke's gonna run into him someday and get

622
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Speaker 12: the same treatment.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be man, he's gonna be score life.

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Speaker 8: So I have a lot of things to get to.

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Speaker 8: UFC three nineteen is part of it, you know. But

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Speaker 8: I just had in my notes for Ray today and

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Speaker 8: can I want to get your thoughts on this. I

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Speaker 8: love Sean O'Malley, right, but when I read that he

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Speaker 8: called the UFC and asked for Cory san Hagen on

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Speaker 8: short notice in New Orleans when they needed a comain

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Speaker 8: event and left a bad taste in right, because in

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Speaker 8: a championship world, right, how does a fight between the

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Speaker 8: former champion O'Malley, who just came off the loss to

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Speaker 8: Morob and the number one contender Sanhagen make any sense?

635
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Speaker 8: Right now? You know, I understand sometimes stars are thrusted

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Speaker 8: into big spots ray because the US he needs. But

637
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Speaker 8: but yeah, yeah, if O'Malley and Sanhagan are ever gonna fight,

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Speaker 8: let's not do it hastily on three weeks notice, right,

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Speaker 8: because Sean's trying to sort of, you know, get a

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Speaker 8: bad taste out of his mouth, like thankfully, Like you know,

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Speaker 8: there was no sort of motion to do that. I mean,

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Speaker 8: Sanagan would only laugh if that call came in. But

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Speaker 8: you know, like I don't know, I just wanted to

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Speaker 8: bring that to your attention because that just left the

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Speaker 8: bad taste in my mouths, like what are we doing?

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Speaker 8: What are we doing?

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Speaker 3: You know, Well, you get to see a guy's true

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Speaker 3: colors when things are going as planned. And I think

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Speaker 3: that's part of what you see.

650
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 8: And you know what, like Kenny like that Aljamain Sterling

651
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 8: Sean O'Malley fight and the timeline that happened is always

652
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 8: going to leave a weird sort of taste in mouths

653
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 8: of a lot of people. And this is just like

654
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 8: what like you can try to fight Corey on like

655
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 8: he's fighting for the title, what are we doing?

656
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 5: Well?

657
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think you know who knows how realistic

658
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 6: it was in Shaan O'Malley's mind when he proposed that,

659
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 6: but I think he knew that Sanagan at a certain

660
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 6: point wanted to fight him, and he was just kind

661
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 6: of throwing something at the wall to see if it's stuck.

662
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 6: But obviously does not make sense for Sanhagen at this point.

663
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 6: It definitely doesn't make sense for Corey. He was asking

664
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 6: for this fight a little while ago. Sean O'Malley didn't

665
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 6: want to have it. Now O'Malley wants to have it

666
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 6: on his terms. Well, doesn't always work that way.

667
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 8: So, I mean, Ray Sanhagen is expecting that he's going

668
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 8: to get the championship opportunity waiting on a date, you know,

669
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 8: it's like, yeah, yeah, looks like Corey Way, he has

670
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 8: no training camp. Right. The fight that so many fans

671
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 8: have going to see a thirty five for a long

672
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 8: time is O'Malley versus Sanhagan looks like hastily doing on

673
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 8: three weeks notice because there needs to be a comin

674
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 8: event that isn't Plo Costa versus Roman Kapolov.

675
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: Like no, no, I definitely agree with you.

676
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 12: Whether you know, whether it leaves a bad taste in

677
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 12: my mouth, I don't know. It's just, you know, some

678
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 12: guys get weird, you know, I don't know.

679
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 8: I think Sean Omla should fight Umar and her Maga Metov.

680
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 8: They should have a full training camp and they on

681
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 8: the day.

682
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 12: Which that's why he's cooling now san Hagan. But he's

683
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 12: the way he's thinking. If I get San Diagan, I'll

684
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 12: avoid Uma.

685
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: Is a really shitty fight for him.

686
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 8: Man, just fight any of those guys on a full

687
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 8: camp by Pyotr Jan fight Umar, fight any of those

688
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 8: guys on a full training camp on the same night

689
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 8: upon which Morob's defending his title. It isn't hard, simple,

690
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 8: you know, it really isn't hard. You know, Umar and

691
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 8: Sean fight fight the same day that Morob and Corey fight.

692
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 8: You know, what am I missing? What are we doing?

693
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: My my my first, my gut reaction, which he does.

694
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 12: He doesn't want UMA's name coming up, So let's just

695
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 12: grab somebody quickly and you know, making a mess and

696
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 12: matchmaking wise and that's it. But you know, I think

697
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 12: the fight to make is O'Malley and Umar.

698
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I do too, I do too.

699
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: I think that's the fight to make, period.

700
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 5: It's the fight to make for the fans. I'm not

701
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 5: sure it's the fight to make for shot.

702
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a tough one.

703
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 5: Again.

704
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 6: You know, it's like there's got to be a little

705
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 6: bit of PTSD after fighting someone like Marob duwalas Vili

706
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 6: and just thinking about normangha Madoff on top of you,

707
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 6: you know.

708
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 5: Doing ground yeah, bleeding and sweating on your face.

709
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 8: Hey yeah, Well, if Marob beats Corey, Sanhagen and Ray,

710
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 8: you probably didn't hear our conversation. We always seem to

711
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 8: talk about Marab before you come on. I was just

712
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 8: sort of talking about you know, there was a time

713
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 8: when maybe people were suggested that his fighting style is boring,

714
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 8: and now literally every country would die to have him

715
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 8: headline a pay per view in their nation, he would

716
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 8: be probably the top choice for everybody right now.

717
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: Oh but I didn't know who you were talking about.

718
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: It was that's well.

719
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 8: I mean, if you're in Australia, right if you're an

720
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 8: Australian fan, you want Tom aspinall. Yeah, I can understand that,

721
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 8: or maybe a local like Jack. But I do believe

722
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 8: if you were to poll ten rabid Australian fight fans

723
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 8: and ask them who would you like to headline the

724
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 8: next pay per view over here, I think seven out

725
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 8: of ten say fucking Morob dwalliswil.

726
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: That's a man.

727
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 12: He's a unique individual. I think his uh, his personality,

728
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 12: his humility is gonna is gonna uh, you know, bounce

729
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 12: off for everybody, you know what I mean. And that's

730
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 12: that's the who the guy is. He's just an authentic

731
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 12: article man, he really is, a lot of people aren't

732
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 12: even used to that. But well, look at he's doing

733
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 12: a quick turnaround fight. Think I'll just keep fighting. I mean,

734
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 12: they gotta they really have exactly what you would think

735
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 12: they want. And you know they had the problem because

736
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 12: he didn't want to fight out you. But I think

737
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 12: they're coming around to that this guy's a workhorse and

738
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 12: he's going to be there for a while.

739
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 3: It's a phenomenal that's a phenomenal story.

740
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 8: It really is unbelievable. It's why we sort of don't

741
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 8: even programmatically plan to talk about it and we circle back

742
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 8: to it. Kenny, Yeah, yeah, no, Ray, I.

743
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 6: Was gonna ask, So I don't think it's an issue

744
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 6: right now at all with Moro. However, moving forward, you know,

745
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 6: it's like we see all these guys, whether it's the

746
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 6: Donald Serons or Magnes or some of these other guys,

747
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 6: and not to say that they're in the same classifighter

748
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 6: as However, once they kind of keep up this schedule,

749
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 6: even Israelnosania Volkanovsky, they keep this busy schedule and then

750
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 6: all of a sudden things start going downhill.

751
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 5: What what time frame is is that a concern for you?

752
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 6: For Morob where it's like he and again he hasn't

753
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 6: had four fights in a year, right, right, But do

754
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 6: these quick turnarounds concern you at all? When do they

755
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 6: start to become a concern against Uh.

756
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 3: That's a good question.

757
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 12: I think he's different than the other guys that you mentioned,

758
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 12: you know what I mean? Like you know who's in

759
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 12: between fights, who's going off and doing mushrooms because they

760
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 12: want to center themselves, or who's doing top You know,

761
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 12: he's just not that guy, Kenny. He's in the gym

762
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 12: every day. It's a it's definitely a different animal. I'm saying,

763
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 12: even adisana crazy schedule he put together, but I'm sure

764
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 12: on his downtime he was totally down. I don't think

765
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 12: I've never seen this guy. No matter where he goes,

766
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 12: he's fined in the gym, he's rolling with somebody, whether

767
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 12: it's a guy in the street, whatever it is, it's

768
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 12: still he's still moving towards his craft.

769
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 3: He's still getting better.

770
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 12: It's it's i'd have to know the other guys, but

771
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 12: I know this guy, he's just on stop.

772
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: So I don't know. Look, it eventually has to catch up.

773
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: And the question that you're raised is is you know

774
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 3: is a great question. But I'm trying to think with him.

775
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: You know, he's I still think he's got a.

776
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 12: Couple of years that he could get away with some

777
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 12: crazy shit. Yeah, because right now he looks like nothing's

778
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 12: remotely bothering and like his.

779
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 5: Body's always ready to go. He's always in shape.

780
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 6: So you're saying it's yeah, maybe some of the other

781
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 6: guys would take time off their body's not ready to go,

782
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 6: and now they have to get in the camp and

783
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 6: cramp for the test.

784
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: Where yeah, right now, No, he's not doing that, That's

785
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. He's always he's always two weeks away

786
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: from I think, going and he's like, again, I don't

787
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 3: see him as much as I used to, so I

788
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: don't really know.

789
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 12: But even a month ago when he was in the gym, Telly,

790
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 12: I don't think. I think you wanted to just chill out,

791
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 12: and he ended up torturing like three or four guys

792
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 12: in the gym. It's just the way it's gonna And

793
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 12: he almost went from a complete sleep to a complete

794
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 12: madman inside of like twenty seconds, you know.

795
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: So that's it's like, uh, you want to move around

796
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: all right, you know what I mean?

797
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 12: And then it's just his body takes over. And it

798
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 12: wasn't like he was even you know what I was

799
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 12: looking at. He was just like again he was chilling,

800
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 12: and he was chilling. Yeah, So it's just it's a

801
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 12: different mentality. He leads a clean life. He's not drinking,

802
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 12: he's not smoking. I think for his style and all

803
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 12: he does, that's a that's a huge thing because he Yeah,

804
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 12: I do think John like you know, will work and

805
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 12: no play makes Jack a dull boy.

806
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: So I like, I like a play hardy. You know,

807
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 3: he's just work hard. You know, his play hard is

808
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 3: different than what other people's play hard is.

809
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 8: I mean, he's he's he's laughing the division and these

810
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 8: are all elite guys. Like if he beats Corny sand

811
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 8: Hagen right, and it's like, oh, Maley's gotten it twice,

812
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 8: Umar got it, wants Pielder Jan got it once. Right.

813
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 8: That's why I just feel like these guys need to

814
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 8: fight each other in title eliminators right underneath him. I mean,

815
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 8: you don't think they would do Umar O'Malley underneath my

816
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 8: Robin Corey and a fuck.

817
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 12: I mean that that's a great fight. That would be

818
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 12: a great card right there. What you just said, So

819
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 12: that's a great gun.

820
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 5: You have a backup plan if something goes wrong.

821
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think all the people, all the different cultures

822
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 12: and stuff that are involved in that fight, you know, like.

823
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: That fight should sell.

824
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 12: That card should be enough for you could put on

825
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 12: eight fights. Nobody even heard Yeah, I think those two

826
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 12: fights would everybody would love to see.

827
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 8: Yeah. So, uh, immediately after we finished that broadcast at

828
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 8: Sphere last year, Ray, all Joe DC and I were

829
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 8: talking about was somehow, some way can we get in

830
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 8: here and do this just once more? Because you sort

831
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 8: of felt like maybe it would be the one and

832
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 8: the only time, and yet the fight card maybe wasn't

833
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 8: built to be the most entertaining fight card in USC history.

834
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 8: Was built as a celebration of Mexico, and so I

835
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 8: found myself thinking that I would headline a spear show

836
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 8: with Hamzat Chimayev. And here we are now on the

837
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 8: cusp of this man fighting for the world title. He

838
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 8: is an electrifying force unlike anything I've seen in the

839
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 8: fight game in my you know, two decades of being here,

840
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 8: and he's fighting another guy in Triacus Dupless that always

841
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 8: entertains and always brings the heat. Uh, what are your

842
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 8: thoughts on what we're going to see? And uh, ultimately

843
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 8: who do you like? UFC three one nine du plus

844
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 8: ce the Shemaiah?

845
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, really really excited for this fight.

846
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I think the build up kind of

847
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 12: ended up being perfect too, even with all the misfights

848
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 12: and this and that. I think it actually added towards

849
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 12: the excitement of the fight. But uh, man, I tell you,

850
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 12: I like again Dricus has really grown on me to

851
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 12: where I really really starting to love the guy. Like

852
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 12: I just I like the tenacity. I don't feel like

853
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 12: and again that doesn't mean anything. I'm just saying optically

854
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 12: doesn't look like the best guy around. He's awkward, But man,

855
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 12: the guys that are just tough and gritty and got

856
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 12: the gas tank and belief in themselves sometimes man, it

857
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 12: just goes such a long way. And I think that's

858
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 12: what I'm seeing it do pluses. And plus he's a

859
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 12: you know, he's a big, strong kid, So that that's

860
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 12: the game to me? Can you know it looks like

861
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 12: can Shemaya get it done within two rounds? And can

862
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 12: Drick has weathered the storm and get it done in

863
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 12: the fourth and fifth round? And I'm leaning towards Drick

864
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 12: as Greg and that fight into the fourth and fifth round.

865
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 12: I don't think that other game has anything to do

866
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 12: with rounds four and five.

867
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 8: Kenny, I haven't heard a single person handicapped this fight

868
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 8: without bringing up the cardio have even Normago Matdov has

869
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 8: suggested that maybe striking early would be of interest for

870
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 8: Chimayav because the wrestling is just more exhausting. What are

871
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 8: your thoughts on what we're gonna see come August sixteenth.

872
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that chamaya Have has that explosive, very

873
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 6: powerful style of wrestling where you need that conditioning, and

874
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 6: it's hard to tell a guy like that to like

875
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 6: pace yourself. That's not how he fights, so he wants

876
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 6: to bring his athleticism to bear. So I think that

877
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 6: that might be some good advice there from Habib to

878
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 6: maybe try to use the striking. Now, Dricus is extremely durable,

879
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 6: you know, can he be knocked out?

880
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

881
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 6: Any man can be knocked out, especially when you have

882
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 6: power like Chimayav. But you also have to pace yourself

883
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 6: with the striking as well. So I'm curious to see

884
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 6: how it all goes down. But I think that's the

885
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 6: general consensus here. It's like it's early Chimayav, right, Dricus

886
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 6: needs to be able to weather that storm, and he's

887
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 6: got to be careful the first ten minutes. After that,

888
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 6: I think that's where he can maybe take over in

889
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 6: rounds four and five and moving around a body that

890
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 6: big when it comes to the wrestling and that strong John, Yeah,

891
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 6: that's gonna gow on you. And I know that Dricus

892
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 6: has brought in some high level wrestlers from that area

893
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 6: to prepare for Chimayev and he's running to.

894
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 8: Go Kenny in a word, who do you think is

895
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 8: the betting favorite? Ray, I'll let you get right back in.

896
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, i'd say Chimayav.

897
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 8: You'd be accurate.

898
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 3: Ray, go ahead. Wow, what that's got to be? That?

899
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: That can't be a big line. What's the odds on that?

900
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 8: It's not? I mean, it ain't small minus five drinking wow?

901
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 5: Wow?

902
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 8: That's was nodding like yep, not wow not wow.

903
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it seems about right.

904
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 8: Well you look at I mean, who does I'm surprised, but.

905
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you look at the last fight where Chamaya

906
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 6: have just made Whittaker look like he was making his

907
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 6: ufcdpu yah, you know, and you're just like gosh, you know,

908
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 6: so that the book he's got to be looking at

909
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 6: that book maker's got to be looking at that and

910
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 6: be like, man, uh that's insane. So I can see

911
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 6: why are they right? I don't know, but I could

912
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 6: see why.

913
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 12: I tell you, but they had the differences. I mean,

914
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 12: Whittaker was a one seventy pounder coming up, and you

915
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 12: maybe could say the same thing about Jamiah. But he's

916
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 12: a big dude. But I don't think he gets I

917
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 12: think like you said, I don't think he gets away

918
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 12: with that with dricis you know. And and the other

919
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 12: thing with the striking is most of the wrestlers that

920
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 12: you try to convert the striking, they get tired with

921
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 12: the striking more than they get tied with the wrestling.

922
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 12: So that's another thing. If that's not his wheelhouse and

923
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 12: that's what he wants to go back to the wrestling,

924
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 12: and then now he's tired to doue either Jremias. I look,

925
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 12: he thinks he could kill everybody in the first round.

926
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 12: I don't think that's gonna change, you know what I'm saying.

927
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: I think you alluded to. That's that's who the guys

928
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 3: had change. It's hard to change. And who's talking to

929
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: that guy. He's crushing everybody. So that's why it's important

930
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 3: to see what a guy's like in the fourth and

931
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 3: fifth round like that, because you have no idea. Because

932
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 3: those guys get people out of there early.

933
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 8: So time permitting, will circle back to UFC three to nineteen.

934
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 8: But we had a great lightweight fight over the weekend,

935
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 8: Ray Mataus round Betski versus Chris Duncan, and I think

936
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 8: bigger picture, right, it just speaks to this lightweight division,

937
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 8: you know in Nazim Sadakov and everybody else, just everybody

938
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 8: chasing nele Atopuria and you just have to have such

939
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 8: resolve I think as an elite lightweight because it's just

940
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 8: such a track from number forty to number ten.

941
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I think it took sometimes. I think, you know,

942
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 12: the hardest part is getting there. A lot of times.

943
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 12: Everybody has a different path to get there, but those

944
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 12: matchups become critical when you're heading into that sort of

945
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 12: like again, I want to circle back to Marab, but

946
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 12: that's what I love about Marob. He had no he

947
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 12: had no saying anything like. That's why what he did

948
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 12: is unbelievable because they, I'm making a case, they didn't

949
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 12: want him getting to where he got to, and they

950
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 12: tried to line everybody up to make that possible. And

951
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 12: like again, whatever, it doesn't kill your mins, you're stronger.

952
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 12: This guy, this guy did it. So like with the

953
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 12: lightweights coming up. Yes, some of those fights, you know,

954
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 12: were critical. That's a that was a crazy man, that

955
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 12: was a really crazy fub But I mean, moving forward,

956
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 12: I'm sure that that fight probably took something out of

957
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 12: each other. Yeah, going for that, that's the problem, like, uh,

958
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 12: you don't have two more of those in you, I

959
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 12: don't think. And then I don't think those are young

960
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 12: guys either. Duncan I met in France. Great guy, what

961
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 12: a nice guy.

962
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: So I was really happy to see them.

963
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, but uh man, that was but yeah, I

964
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 12: think that's you know, I'm sure Nas was licking his

965
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 12: chops when I saw he was at the fight, and

966
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 12: I saw him on TV, so and I think he

967
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 12: might have uh he called out Rebeccy a while ago,

968
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 12: but I guess that right.

969
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 8: But no, I mean it's just like round Betsky. Kenny

970
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 8: at this time last year was nineteen and one as

971
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 8: a pro, and now he's lost two of his last

972
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 8: three or whatever, And I don't know the extent of

973
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 8: which he's gonna have financial freedom after this career, right, Yeah,

974
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 8: this wasn't sort of a fight that's gonna lend itself

975
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 8: to like career longevity. But no, just sort of just

976
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 8: tough being a top forty lightweight man.

977
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

978
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 6: The first thing I was thinking about is invest that

979
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 6: fight bonus money man.

980
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 12: Yeah, No, I think that's another thing that you have

981
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 12: to know. You have to be smart with your money

982
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 12: at this point. But I think you look at the

983
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 12: other fight, even Ribavis against uh fucking crazy high valume,

984
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 12: you know, and you could probably.

985
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 3: Rex is on a tear. He's on a freaking tear,

986
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 3: and that was.

987
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 4: Just wars.

988
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know how

989
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 3: many how many more of those? That's what I'm trying

990
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: to say.

991
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 12: Like, so there's a point, like if you're a lightweight,

992
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 12: where there's a point where you want to get Ribavix, right.

993
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, is it now three fights?

994
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 12: If he's another three wars, But it's very critical to

995
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 12: really analyze that stuff if that's what you want to do,

996
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 12: or you have the mentality if I'm going to beat

997
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 12: the champ, I got to beat everybody, which I love,

998
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 12: But but I think there's times when guys get other

999
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 12: guys to fight, you know, when that matches up, which

1000
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 12: is just a disadvantage to one.

1001
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 3: Of the guys.

1002
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, before we get to some fun items on the

1003
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 8: way out. When's your next travel by the way, Raymond,

1004
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 8: pleasure business, We'll take both.

1005
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: I got Turks and Caicos coming up with the family.

1006
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 8: When are you going to miss an episode?

1007
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't think so we got a business.

1008
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 8: When do you go to Turks and Cacos? You don't

1009
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 8: have to tell us if you don't.

1010
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 3: Want to, I'll let you know next week. Well, but

1011
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: it's coming up.

1012
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 8: Just when you thought long ago couldn't get browner? And

1013
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 8: for business? When is your next business trip?

1014
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 3: Uh? That one looks right now. It looks like October.

1015
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 8: Wow, two months off? Not really so you the wife,

1016
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 8: the daughter's Turks and Caicos and then business trip until

1017
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 8: October my brother and his kids.

1018
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh Turks is awesome. Man, I had a great.

1019
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 8: Time, is it?

1020
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 3: Oh nice? Maybe I'll call you give me some Uh.

1021
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, maybe I'll go to Turks and Caicos before

1022
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 8: I fucking die. You rich focks. So, ray where's Lucky

1023
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 8: the dog go When you go to Turks and Caicos?

1024
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: She goes off to a veterinarian.

1025
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 8: Wow, like a cann just in a fucking cage all day.

1026
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: Huh.

1027
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 8: I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we just moved to Connecticut.

1028
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 8: So now my dog like goes to a residence, which

1029
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 8: is kind of nice, you know, nice. All right, So yeah, anyway,

1030
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 8: before we get to uh, would you rather one of

1031
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 8: the ones that I found today is unaskable by the way,

1032
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 8: so I don't want an answer, but I am going

1033
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 8: to bring it to the masses. So I'm looking at

1034
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 8: this Chicago fight card, right, how about this for an

1035
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 8: early prelim, ready Edson Barbosa versus dracar close happening like

1036
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 8: in the middle of the afternoon. You got Chase Hooper

1037
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 8: versus Alexander Hernandez. Late prelim, you got King Green and

1038
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 8: Diego Fajita is the featured prelim. Among the highlights on

1039
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 8: pay per view, Jared Cannonier versus Michael Venim, page Kayasakor

1040
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 8: will see what he can do against Tim Elliott, Carlos protests,

1041
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 8: and Jeff Neil has been rebooked. And then the Featherwaight

1042
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 8: comine event, Aaron Peko's UFC debut against Labaron Murphy. Chicago's

1043
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 8: getting a pretty good card, can flow, pretty good.

1044
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 5: Card for sure, man, a lot of great fights.

1045
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, Ray, I think he just froze, Oh.

1046
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got got got me. I think Jordan froze.

1047
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think John throws.

1048
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that was good.

1049
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 8: We're back. We're fucking back.

1050
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 3: He he it's a movie stor he just played a

1051
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 3: frozen guy on a podcast.

1052
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 5: Where's it go?

1053
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: Really good?

1054
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 8: I can't believe how good the Naked Gun was. Danny

1055
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 8: Houston at the end of the movie, you know, I mean,

1056
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 8: hopefully we'll go see it. This isn't really a spoiler,

1057
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 8: but like Liam Neeson like kicks him in the body

1058
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 8: or something. You know, He's like, oh you hurt my stomach,

1059
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 8: It really hurt. I'm fucking crying. My daughter thought it

1060
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 8: was absolutely hilarious. She's going to be fourteen tomorrow. So

1061
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 8: thanke that for what it's worth. All Right, you were

1062
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 8: you guys talking about anything I said on UFC three

1063
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 8: nineteen when everything went sideways or no? I mean that's

1064
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 8: a deep fight card.

1065
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think the featherweight matchup is really interesting.

1066
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 6: I'm curious to see how Laro Murphy takes on someone

1067
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 6: like Aaron Pico, who is extremely aggressive, who has the

1068
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 6: ability to lure people into some crazy scraps, you know,

1069
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 6: multifaceted fighter and Lara Murphy a little bit more conservaive

1070
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 6: but very well rounded in dangers in his own right.

1071
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 6: So I think it's a fantastic main event and a

1072
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 6: lot of interesting matchups that are they're going to have

1073
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 6: an impact on each division for sure.

1074
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think just I hope I didn't have Pico's

1075
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 12: a great guy. I hope he does really well. But

1076
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Speaker 12: you've seen those first fight UFC jid is man, I

1077
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 12: hope he doesn't succumb to that because this is a

1078
00:51:59,280 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 12: tough kid.

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00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 3: So he's got he's got a tough fight.

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00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Uh, you know, it's almost like what happened with a pitbull,

1082
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 12: but he did kind of bounce back.

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Speaker 3: I think it takes a fight to get used to

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00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 3: the whole thing. Man.

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Speaker 12: It's it's a big it's a big iss, especially especially

1086
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 12: when you've been around for a while.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: It's It's a good point because I was thinking, like,

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Speaker 6: you know, Aaron Pico, He's had thousands of wrestling matches,

1090
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 6: you know, competed at high level belitory, that's probably not

1091
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 6: gonna be issue.

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Speaker 5: Then you brought up the pit bull.

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00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 6: U fight, you know, and he had a ton of

1094
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 6: experience outside of the uf Yeah, but it still didn't matter. Yeah,

1095
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 6: the UFC jitters can affect people no matter what level

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00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 6: of experience you have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the uds in that fight?

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00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 8: Yet I got I got a lot of fights, but

1100
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 8: nothing on DraftKings Sports Book as yet. And Aaron Pico Okay, okay,

1101
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 8: that's good. All right. So Ray, Steve r. Seg is

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Speaker 8: waiting in the wings, so I'm not going to spend

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Speaker 8: too much time on would you rather? You can bring

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Speaker 8: Steve astro Boyer or sagain if he wants to say

1105
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 8: hello to Ray Longo.

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Speaker 3: You know, hey on the is there he is.

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Speaker 8: We are now joined live by the former UFC flyweight

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00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 8: world title challenger, Steve astro Boyer Seg live from Las Vegas.

1109
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 8: It's good to see my man, Steve ver Seg.

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00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 3: Ray.

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00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 8: I was gonna retire the would you rather? Segment because

1112
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 8: I'm trying to bring creative questions to the masses. Steve.

1113
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 8: You might have seen some of this on social media,

1114
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 8: like would you rather wrestle a bear or an alligator?

1115
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 7: Right?

1116
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 8: But I came across a question today and I'm trying

1117
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 8: to be thoughtful about these, but it says would you

1118
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 8: rather have a child made of pee or a p

1119
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 8: made of child? And I'm like, what the fuck are

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Speaker 8: we doing? So yeah, so, I mean.

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00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: But you never gave up your sourceer who's giving you

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00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 3: these questions? Who's responsible today?

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Speaker 8: Ray? With respect to Steve's time, what's your biggest fear? Ray?

1124
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 8: What is your biggest fear?

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00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 5: Uh?

1126
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 8: Kenny and I don't like heights phobic? So would you

1127
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 8: rather face your biggest fear or spend one night in

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Speaker 8: a landfill like in the actual dumpster.

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00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 3: I'd mean, I think I'm going to spend a night

1130
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 3: in the dumpster, all right, see Steve that, Steve.

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Speaker 12: I hope you don't expect anything serious out of this podcast,

1132
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 12: you know. I'm just gonna warn you now you you

1133
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 12: might want to like make like you have like internet

1134
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 12: trouble and just.

1135
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 3: Get the.

1136
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 8: Hey right, thank you, We love you. Steve's fighting this weekend,

1137
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 8: so you can wish them all the best and then

1138
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 8: you can.

1139
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 3: I wish you all the best of luck.

1140
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 12: Love your boxing buddy, Keep it up, you.

1141
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 8: Guys, Love you, Raymond Ray long co met it every

1142
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 8: week live on the Anakymplorian podcast. Steve, It's great to

1143
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 8: see you, my man. I know you're in Vegas. I

1144
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 8: know it's been crazy. Yeah, these would you rathers are

1145
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,959
Speaker 8: really something that have taken on a life of their own,

1146
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 8: and uh, sometime we go down a little bit too

1147
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 8: hard there. But it's good to see you, my man.

1148
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 8: So crazy times to be Steve ver Saig. It's crazy

1149
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 8: every time I go through your body of work and

1150
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 8: everything that the last couple of years have has sort

1151
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 8: of held for you. But it's been a crazy year.

1152
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 8: Just I look at your topology page right and it's

1153
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 8: all these cancelations and rebookings. None of them have to

1154
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 8: do with your issues. So what have the last few

1155
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 8: months been like? Is you sort of navigate these UFC waters?

1156
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just been like I guess, learning to take

1157
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,959
Speaker 7: everything in my stride. I guess it's just I've had

1158
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 7: some yeah, really exciting opportunities, and especially the last three

1159
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 7: haven't gone my way. So it's like gone from man,

1160
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 7: I'm the I'm the man, to oh shit, like yeah

1161
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 7: fine for my for my spot in the UFC now.

1162
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Speaker 7: So it's just trying to make sure that I realized

1163
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Speaker 7: that I can only do everything I can do, and

1164
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Speaker 7: like not dwelling all all that sort of stuff too

1165
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 7: much and remembering even though it's not gone so well

1166
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 7: at the moment, I'm still the man and that's what

1167
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 7: I'm gonna bring it back to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's interesting, man, Like, it's odd that you

1170
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Speaker 6: see a fighter of your quality on a three fight

1171
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 6: losing streak right now, Does that add any pressure?

1172
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Speaker 5: Is does this feel different in this fight leading up

1173
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Speaker 5: to Osborne?

1174
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Speaker 7: Of course, extra pressure on a losing street like it's

1175
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 7: hard for them not to be. But like I've always

1176
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 7: felt like I've done well under pressure. And yeah, just

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Speaker 7: I'm going in there and I'm gonna trying to, I guess,

1178
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Speaker 7: as I said, remind myself that I'm the man. Like

1179
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Speaker 7: I've been going into these fights recently, I'm like, oh wow,

1180
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 7: I'm fighting Moreno and that sort of thing. It's like,

1181
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 7: I'm gonna kind of cut that shit out, like, no,

1182
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 7: that guy's fighting Steve Ursig, and yeah, I'm going to

1183
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 7: treat the fight like that.

1184
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Speaker 5: I think that's a good approach man.

1185
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Speaker 6: And Steve, like, you don't have to reveal details or

1186
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 6: anything like that, but is there anything that you kind

1187
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 6: of looked back on maybe the last few fights you said,

1188
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 6: you know, what I got improve here or there or whatever.

1189
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Speaker 6: What are some of those changes that maybe you've been making.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think one of the biggest things

1191
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 7: that I well, before I was in the UFC was

1192
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 7: I was really dangerous. Like I was good at hunting

1193
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 7: for submissions, and people were worried about that, like and

1194
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 7: because of the competition and because just my own development

1195
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 7: I've been working. I was working really hard and just

1196
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 7: like positional control and like all these different things like

1197
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 7: one percentage that mean I'm going to be harder to submit, harder,

1198
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 7: to knock out, harder or whatever. And that's been great

1199
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Speaker 7: because I think I'm a better martial arts for it.

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00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 7: But I also lost a little bit of that, like

1201
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 7: that danger factor. So I'm trying to really focus in,

1202
00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 7: especially in my grappling and like submitting people and dangerous again,

1203
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 7: that's the biggest thing.

1204
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Speaker 8: Steve ver seg with us Live. I'm on the Anak

1205
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 8: and Florian podcast. I love where your head is at

1206
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 8: because you are still the man. Like I feel like

1207
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 8: in terms of the three fight losing streak, like never

1208
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 8: has an athlete been safer, right, Like you can probably

1209
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 8: lose six in a row and you know, I'm one

1210
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 8: of your biggest fans. You know, I did believe you

1211
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 8: didn't come close to beating Pantos. I actually did think

1212
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 8: you beat the man on the scorecards. But there are

1213
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 8: a lot of circumstances, and if I could outline them

1214
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 8: for people very quickly. You were supposed to face a

1215
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 8: Sue amabay Eve earlier this year. You end of fighting

1216
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 8: Brandon Moreno about a month later, right, Not that I'm

1217
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 8: making the excuse for you. This weekend, it was going

1218
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 8: to be Alex Perez, then Hung Soong Park, who has

1219
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 8: just pulled for the main event against tatsu Rotira. Now

1220
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 8: it's gonna be Ode Osbourne at one hundred and thirty

1221
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 8: five pounds. So I guess let's stop down on the

1222
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 8: wait for a second, right. I mean that's a little

1223
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 8: bit different, isn't it.

1224
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's awesome.

1225
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 6: I get the food.

1226
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 3: I'm having coffee.

1227
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Speaker 7: It's yeah, it's hard to try to stay as disciplined

1228
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 7: because obviously I know I've got some slack now, and

1229
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 7: so uh, I can't get too excited and like blow

1230
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 7: my weight out and then have to have a hard

1231
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 7: cut anyway, So it is I'm a lot. If you

1232
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 7: ask people around me. I'm in a much better mood now.

1233
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's interesting that you mentioned coffee because I did

1234
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 8: read recently as I see a lot of fighters drink

1235
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 8: coffee during their weight cut, that that's not a good thing, right,

1236
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 8: Whether it's the what is it, I don't know. Do

1237
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 8: you just not drink it when you're cutting.

1238
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 7: Or I don't know how bad it is or anything

1239
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 7: like that. I usually fight week tend to have black coffee. Yeah,

1240
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 7: but I was told that I'm allowed to have mook

1241
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 7: coffee today, so.

1242
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, last little treat.

1243
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 8: Yeah. So gosh, there's so many things that I have

1244
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 8: written down here in terms of the Brandon Marino film,

1245
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 8: Like when you go back and watch that, is there

1246
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 8: anything you know in terms of that level where you

1247
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 8: feel like you know your performance was at.

1248
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 7: The biggest thing? I mean, I was guinely disgusted with

1249
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 7: myself after that one, mostly because not my skill or

1250
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 7: anything like that. I just didn't fight, like there was

1251
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 7: no dog in me, Like I just almost thought not

1252
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 7: to lose that one.

1253
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 3: It was real weird.

1254
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 7: I thought I was over the knockout from Kai and

1255
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 7: all that sort of stuff, and then he hit me

1256
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 7: with one shot and I went, oh, imagine how embarrassing

1257
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 7: it would be if I got knocked out again, and

1258
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 7: then like from then on, I literally just played like

1259
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 7: not completely defensive or anything, but I just I didn't

1260
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 7: fight like i'd usually fight, and I just felt physically

1261
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 7: sick watching the fight back. So I have basically looked

1262
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 7: at it like I'd prefer lose and get knocked out

1263
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 7: trying to win a fight, then like lose like that again.

1264
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 7: So yeah, I'm to come in and I'm going to

1265
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 7: make sure I do everything I would everything I can

1266
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 7: to win this fight.

1267
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 8: I do want to get some thoughts on the actual

1268
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 8: matchup with ode Osbourne, but we've spent a lot of

1269
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 8: time talking about Morob Dwallash Willie and not to suggest

1270
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 8: that your UFC future eventually will be at one hundred

1271
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 8: and thirty five pounds or not, but when we asked

1272
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 8: the current champion Pantosia about it, it's just not at

1273
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 8: all something that's in the cards for the current champions.

1274
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 8: So I'm just curious when you look at Morab that

1275
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 8: would be a pretty unique challenge for somebody like yourself.

1276
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 8: Do you see him as beatable, because a lot of

1277
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 8: people do until they get in there.

1278
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he's obviously beatable. He's he's lost fights before,

1279
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 7: so it's just like, obviously the cardio is like an

1280
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 7: X factor that he has, and because he's wrestling is

1281
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 7: quite good even against people who have good wrestling, he

1282
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 7: can sort of span takedowns and it's hard for people

1283
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 7: to deal with. But of course, like you can always

1284
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 7: catch him, Like even in the first short of Mali fight,

1285
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 7: I know he like AMALLEI got pumped, but right at

1286
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 7: the end he heard him to the body and stuff

1287
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 7: like that. It's just, yeah, it's always opening. He's like

1288
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 7: everybody's beatable. It's just it's harder to see when people

1289
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Speaker 7: are on a big win streak.

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Speaker 8: So you're gonna ply your trade at twenty five. Obviously

1291
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 8: this weekend it's gonna be Bannham weight. But Max Holloway

1292
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 8: once said to me that he wants to take a

1293
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 8: UFC fight at eighty five before he retires, right, So

1294
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 8: are you expecting that at some point, you know, beyond

1295
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 8: this Oday Osbourne one off that that you would be

1296
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 8: like consistently competing bandam weight at some point before your

1297
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Speaker 8: UFC careers done, or.

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Speaker 7: I don't think I ever would unless obviously I win

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Speaker 7: a title because I've always wanted to be a two

1300
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 7: division world champion. Yeah for a long time, So I

1301
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Speaker 7: love I'd love to yet to move up and do that,

1302
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 7: but yeah, Flyway for the time being is definitely my

1303
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 7: weight class.

1304
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Speaker 5: He's bandamwat.

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Speaker 7: He's a scary dudes, man, Yeah, big scary dudes.

1306
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 8: No, it just really people don't realize, especially to the

1308
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Speaker 8: percentage of the weight at that level. You know, from

1309
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Speaker 8: twenty five to thirty five, it's a big deal, all right.

1310
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Speaker 8: So Oday Osborne is the man who shows up in

1311
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Speaker 8: your bracket this weekend, and I would imagine for you

1312
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 8: it didn't really matter. You know, you're just trying to

1313
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 8: beat a man. But what are your thoughts on the

1314
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 8: challenge in front of you before we let you go?

1315
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Speaker 7: H Yeah, he's a good striker. He's South Forest, so

1316
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 7: that makes it a little bit tricky, and he has

1317
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 7: good kick catches, so if I go out there and

1318
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 7: throw I guess naked kicks. He punishes people really well

1319
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 7: off it. But I do think that I managed the

1320
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 7: range pretty well, and I luckily have a south where

1321
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 7: I get to train with all the time in my gym,

1322
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 7: so I'm pretty I feel pretty confident going in there

1323
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 7: against the south Wall, and I do feel like the

1324
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 7: biggest opening is the grappling for this one. I think

1325
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 7: not that he is a bum or anything like that,

1326
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 7: but I just think the difference in the danger I

1327
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 7: guess on the ground between us and the Cardio as

1328
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 7: a result of grappling exchanges are like significantly in my favor.

1329
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 7: So I think mixing up the wrestling, even if I

1330
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 7: don't take him down, just making him wrestle, I think

1331
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 7: it's very important.

1332
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Speaker 8: So when the UFC goes back to Perf later this year,

1333
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,959
Speaker 8: you think maybe you'll be there like as a guest

1334
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 8: fighter to just sort of feel all that out, or

1335
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Speaker 8: do you think it actually could aligned that you would compete.

1336
01:03:58,560 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 8: What are your thoughts on that?

1337
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 7: If they can find me an opponent, I would fight

1338
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 7: on that. Yeah, on Perth, but just yeah, when they

1339
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 7: come to Sydney, it seemed like they struggle to get

1340
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 7: people over right. Fine, me there, so we'll see what happens.

1341
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 7: But yeah, obviously you have to get through this without

1342
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 7: any injuries. But yeah, J mean I do I'd love

1343
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 7: to fight on Perth.

1344
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 8: Because I do think either way, you know, there's so

1345
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 8: much upside for you being there, especially uh to compete,

1346
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 8: but even as a guest fighter, I think it would

1347
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 8: be fun for you to just experience that as a fan.

1348
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 8: All right, Steve verse seg live this weekend from the

1349
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 8: Apex against Oday Osborne. My man, get it done. We

1350
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 8: appreciate a few minutes, and uh, enjoy the rest of

1351
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 8: your your fight week. We look forward to that scale

1352
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 8: at one hundred and thirty six pounds on Friday.

1353
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 7: Brother, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on a

1354
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 7: much still enjoy it.

1355
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Speaker 8: Steve ver Saig with us live on the Aneic Imploring Podcast.

1356
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Speaker 8: He's a really good dude, man, he really is. He

1357
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 8: came so close to resting the title away from Ala

1358
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 8: Chandre Pantosia, and you know, talks like a guy, as

1359
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 8: he said at the outset, who is fighting for his

1360
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 8: job this weekend as a big favorite against Odai Osbourne.

1361
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Speaker 8: But I don't know necessarily see it that way, right,

1362
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 8: I mean, like there have been a lot of circumstances,

1363
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 8: even the way he stepped up to fight for the

1364
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 8: title right on relatively short notice. The Moreno fight was

1365
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 8: short notice, you know, and now he's fighting a third

1366
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 8: opponent in a different way. You know, it's been a

1367
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 8: crazy two years for Steve ver Segnis family.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 6: And I always look at like what he says and

1370
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Speaker 6: how he responds, what's his mindset like? And he's saying

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01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 6: all the right things. You know, I don't think he's

1372
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Speaker 6: going to have a problem coming back and putting out

1373
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 6: a good performance on Saturday night.

1374
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Speaker 8: And you heard long ago talking about his boxing but

1375
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Speaker 8: getting back to the dangerous scrappler that sort of led

1376
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Speaker 8: him to the dance. Thanks to Steve ver seg for

1377
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,440
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Speaker 8: to nineteen, no betting line as yet, Jeff Neil and

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Speaker 8: Carlos protests fight that was rebook from Miami, and then

1413
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Speaker 8: Michael Venim page at middleweight against Jared cannoneer. Who do

1414
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 8: you believe is the betting favorite in that fight? It's

1415
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 8: a crazy fight at eighty five? And every time you

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01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 8: question Jared cannon here because the tail of tape says

1417
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 8: he's forty or whatever he is, you know, he proves

1418
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 8: doubters wrong. Who do you think is the betting favorite

1419
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 8: in that fight? MVP or Jared Cannander. I'll say MVP, Yeah,

1420
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 8: MVP minus one eighty. You're a hard got a fool

1421
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 8: with the what's the odd game? Very fascinated to see

1422
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 8: Michael Venam page at eighty five. I say, but it's

1423
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 8: a great fight there against Jared Cannadier. All Right, Kenny,

1424
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 8: would you rather wrestle a bear or an alligator?

1425
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh, an alligator.

1426
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 6: I'd rather wrestle an alligator, I can get around to

1427
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 6: its back a bear, I probably don't have much of

1428
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 6: a chance.

1429
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Speaker 8: All right, before we get to Brian Petrie, would you

1430
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 8: rather be locked for a week in a room that's

1431
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 8: overly bright or a room that's totally dark? Ooh, and

1432
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 8: you're not getting like an eye shield or like sunglasses

1433
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 8: right right? You close your.

1434
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 5: Eyes though totally dark?

1435
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 8: See, I would go overly bright and just close my

1436
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 8: eyes because you know, I'm no prince of darkness, and

1437
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 8: being in there for a week I think would be

1438
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 8: the end. All right, let's go three wide. If he's here,

1439
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 8: If Brian Petrie is with us, as we transition forward

1440
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 8: to our next live event coming up this weekend, it's

1441
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 8: UFC Fight Nights, Old Say versus Hernandez. Nice shirt, Bride,

1442
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 8: It's nice to see.

1443
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 4: It, Bully, Bully be what's up? Boys?

1444
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 8: So do you bet on any other sports other than

1445
01:08:58,520 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 8: mixed martial arts?

1446
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 4: I'll dabble in maybe some NFL overs, but I haven't

1447
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 4: done that in a while. I'm solely focused on MMA.

1448
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 4: Uh So it's just been kind of taking over my

1449
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 4: life for the past two years. So the answer is no, no, And.

1450
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 8: Do you have like far more tickets for UFC three

1451
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 8: nineteen as opposed to just your regular fight night or what.

1452
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 4: Well, three nineteen, I'll be in the building, so yeah,

1453
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 4: I'll have I'll have way.

1454
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 8: More a hundred tickets.

1455
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll have way more tickets because you know I'll

1456
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 4: be there and it's like on the good luck charm,

1457
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 4: you know whatever. But typically, yeah, I mean I try

1458
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 4: to find something on every fight. I've been really playing

1459
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 4: the over under on strikes on fighters. You know, they

1460
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 4: usually pretty good lines on that. So some some fights

1461
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 4: I will lay off if I just if I don't

1462
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 4: have it, I'm laying off. I'm not, I'm not that desperate.

1463
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 4: But most of the time I'm finding a bet, I

1464
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 4: like on every fight.

1465
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, it's UFC Fight Night. D'lidza versus Hernandez

1466
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 8: Anthony Fluffy Hernandez. It's crazy what he's accomplished, right, Like,

1467
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 8: we were all wearing masks and rubbing down our fucking

1468
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 8: groceries the last time he lost the foot, you know,

1469
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 8: you know, I mean, did we do that exercise on

1470
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 8: this show? We did, raise your hand if you wipe

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Speaker 8: down the groceries with the fucking disimpected my wife did.

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Speaker 4: I didn't personally, but yeah, my wife did.

1473
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Speaker 5: That's great.

1474
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean yeah, the COVID tough guys, I guess

1475
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 8: uh yeah, I wiped down groceries a coble times. All right,

1476
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 8: We will eventually get to Anthony Fluffy Hernandez and his

1477
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 8: elongated winning streak. We begin though, Brian Petrie in the

1478
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 8: Middleway Division, c LD, Christian Leroy Duncan Sean Sheen's favorite fighter,

1479
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 8: minus five thirty five. Your boy Eric Anders is a

1480
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 8: big underdog. He's plus four hundred. He's thirty eight, twilight

1481
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 8: of his career perhaps, but he is doing good work

1482
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 8: to get over five hundred. In the UFC nine to

1483
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 8: eight with a no contest for Anders as he makes

1484
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 8: his nineteenth UFC appearance. He has won two in a row.

1485
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 8: Jamie Pickett, Chris Wyman. Much different test here, Brian and CLD.

1486
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Speaker 4: Your thoughts, Yeah, Cold, I like his movement, right. I

1487
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 4: feel like there's a lot of things he can do

1488
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 4: a little bit better. So obviously young in the game,

1489
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 4: get used to the UFC grind. There's some things where

1490
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 4: I think his movement could really open up a lot

1491
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 4: of things for him. In the striking realm. I think

1492
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 4: his movement can slow down guys like Eric. And there's

1493
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 4: your boy with the grappling, with the clinching, with the

1494
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 4: putting on against the cage. Because Eric Ganders is really

1495
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 4: tough to look good against. You can hit him, you

1496
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 4: can kick him. He's not going anywhere, right Like, the

1497
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 4: guy's tough and he'll like to clinch you. He'll fight

1498
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 4: for takedown, so he'll slow down the pace a lot.

1499
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 4: So your boy is definitely tough to look good against.

1500
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 4: And this number is really high. There's a lot of

1501
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 4: really high numbers on this card. Minus five thirty five,

1502
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 4: I mean my pick will be cold. I do think

1503
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 4: he'll get a decision to win here, maybe twenty nine

1504
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 4: to twenty eight. I don't know if he'll do a

1505
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 4: clean sweep, but I like CLD. I just don't like

1506
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 4: that number. I think that's too too high for me.

1507
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, that is a prohibitive number. I would think he

1508
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 8: just turned thirty to CLD. On July twenty fourth, four

1509
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 8: and two in the UFC after win over Andre Pulaie.

1510
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 8: He's won three or four sandwich around the lost to

1511
01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 8: RoboCop Gregory Rodriguez. You know, we talk about lightweights. Kenny

1512
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 8: sick of me saying right like best of luck trying

1513
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 8: to get to the top fifteen. But if Duncan is

1514
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 8: going to make a run of the rankings, you gotta

1515
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 8: win as a near six to one favorite against Eric Anders.

1516
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 8: Kenn of your thoughts on the middle waighte kid.

1517
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 5: Well, I'm with Brian here.

1518
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 6: I think this is a really interesting fight because of

1519
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 6: the odds. I think Brian is spot on. It's tough

1520
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 6: to be in an Anders fight and it be something

1521
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 6: that went exactly as you thought it was gonna go like.

1522
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 6: He can make it very chaotic and it can make

1523
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 6: it an ugly fight, which favors his style. I think

1524
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 6: if he has an answer to get to the clinch repeatedly,

1525
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 6: that's when this fight gets interesting. It gets even more

1526
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 6: interesting if he has answers for the takedown game right.

1527
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 6: So if he can put Christian Leroy Duncan on his

1528
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 6: back right, he can steal this fight. At a plus

1529
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 6: four hundred, I think that Ucy, is it enticing enough

1530
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 6: for me?

1531
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 5: No, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with Christian Leroy

1532
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 5: Duncan CLD.

1533
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 6: I think that his talent is phenomenal still waiting for

1534
01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 6: him to fulfill all of that potential.

1535
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 5: But not an easy fight here against Anders all right.

1536
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 8: Next up in the pandamweight division, Jean Matsumoto minus three

1537
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 8: zero five taken on Miles Johns, who is plus two

1538
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 8: point fifty South Pelo's Matsumoto sixteen to one as an

1539
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 8: MMA pro bro coming off his first pro loss though,

1540
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 8: the split decision against Rob Font back in February, stepped

1541
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 8: in there for Dominic cruz jiu jitsu black belt finishing

1542
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 8: ability championship experience outside the UFC, of course, the valuable

1543
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 8: minutes a crued against Rob Font. What are your thoughts

1544
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 8: on Matsumoto north of three to one here against Miles Johns.

1545
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I had any balls whatsoever, I would pick

1546
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 4: Miles Johnson because Masumoto, like listen, he fought the Rob

1547
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 4: Von fight like it's nineteen ninety eight. He landed five takedowns.

1548
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 4: He wonted that w but you did nothing on the feet,

1549
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,600
Speaker 4: you did nothing of consequences, you did no damage, And

1550
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 4: that's kind of his path of victory. But Miles Johns

1551
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 4: can wrestle too. Miles Johnson slump on the wrestling and

1552
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 4: he's got some good power striking his hands. So if

1553
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 4: I was had that encourage it all. If I was

1554
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 4: up a million dollars at Kenny Florida and I go

1555
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 4: Miles Johnson. But since I'm not, I'm going to pick Masimoto.

1556
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 4: I just think he's gonna be a little bit kind

1557
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 4: of better everywhere. I think this fight's gonna be a

1558
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 4: little bit dry. I think we're going to see a

1559
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 4: decision victory here, and I think Masmoto is probably gonna

1560
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 4: win a decision.

1561
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 8: So Miles John's formerly a Fordist MMA can flow trains

1562
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 8: under Trey Ogden Marathon MMA in the Kansas City area.

1563
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 8: Always a guy long on potential, you know, looks the

1564
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 8: part eleventh UFC appearance for him. He's six and three

1565
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 8: with a no contest coming off the loss to Jungle

1566
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 8: Boy Felipe Lima that ended a four fight unbeaten streak.

1567
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 8: I like the matchup. I think it's juicy Kenny here

1568
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 8: in the bandamweight division we'll need a selection at any time.

1569
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 6: I think it's juicy as well, and I think it

1570
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 6: shows that the USC sees a lot of promise in

1571
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 6: someone like Matsumoto who doesn't have the experience of someone

1572
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 6: like Miles John's. But I think that Matsumotos certainly is

1573
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 6: a very talented striker.

1574
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 5: I definitely want to see more volume. I want to

1575
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 5: see more aggression from him.

1576
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 6: He's gonna have to stop the takedowns if he wants

1577
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 6: to win this fight. Miles Johns may take the route

1578
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 6: of the grappler here, but you also also have to

1579
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 6: mind his power. He's got a nasty the overhand, right

1580
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 6: you gotta watch out for. But I'm gonna lead the

1581
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 6: way of Matsumoto. I think that it's it's not gonna

1582
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 6: be easy for Johns to just take him down repeatedly.

1583
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 6: Matsumoto a black belt in jiu jitsu as well, so

1584
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 6: he's got some good chokes in a variety submissions.

1585
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 5: That his user of the course of his career, six

1586
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 5: submissions on his record. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Brazilian.

1587
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 8: This main card pretty deep ball things considered for an

1588
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 8: APEX show. We move on now to the featherweight division.

1589
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 8: Christian Rodriguez manus to sixty five Andre Pheles plus two fifteen.

1590
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 8: So yeah, Philly's a five hundred fighter, Brian. I mean

1591
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,600
Speaker 8: I would think a hard got a sort of handicap.

1592
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 8: He has come up short in a lot of big spots.

1593
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,759
Speaker 8: He's twelve and eleven with a no contest in the UFC,

1594
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 8: hasn't won two straight in six years. Puts on good fights,

1595
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 8: keeps his job. Could use a big signature win as

1596
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 8: an underdog. That's sort of in front of him this

1597
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 8: weekend as he takes on c Rod. Who do you

1598
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 8: like here at one hundred and forty five pounds PP.

1599
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to apologize to see Right. At first

1600
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 4: I said that he was not gonna be much at

1601
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 4: forty five. I thought he's a thirty five. But he's

1602
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 4: well built, thick kid, you know, Den's kid for forty five.

1603
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 4: And he's out there just smashing the young dudes. Smash

1604
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 4: Chiwie Weis, Cat, smash camera Simon, smash Austin Bashi, right,

1605
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 4: like he's the young killer. Right, you match him up

1606
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 4: with these young guys, are gonna be big. You know,

1607
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna smash him. Now, he's gonna vet.

1608
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 4: He's gonna Van Philly Who Andre Fhilly can wrestle a

1609
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 4: little bit, He's got good striking, he's long, but he's

1610
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 4: just the inconsistency in there. There's times in there where

1611
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 4: I feel like he might not want to be there.

1612
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 4: It's kind of like, you know, he's had some of

1613
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 4: the UFC fights. He knows the rhythms and he knows

1614
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 4: like I'm down or whatever. But there's also times where

1615
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 4: hobiden his mouthpiece and he'll throw. I just think Sea

1616
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 4: rod probably has the advantage everywhere when it comes to

1617
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 4: the grappling. I think Philly has good offensive wrestling. He's

1618
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 4: defensive wrestling, I think is a little bit of a question.

1619
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 4: I like Sea rout here. I think Christian Rodriguez is

1620
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 4: a guy to look out for Nest Division. He's gonna

1621
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,759
Speaker 4: be really tough out. He's got good chokes as well.

1622
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 4: His stand up's coming a long way, you know, especially

1623
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 4: with the right camp that he's in. His stand up

1624
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 4: is always gonna improve. But give me Christian Rodriguez here

1625
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 4: for sure.

1626
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 8: Nicely done, Brian can't flow both men coming off a

1627
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 8: loss to melcaziel A Costa, Sea rod Here making his

1628
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 8: third star already of twenty twenty five, twenty seven year

1629
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 8: old is five and three in the UFC REP and

1630
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 8: RUFUS Sport there in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Who do you like

1631
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:12,440
Speaker 8: at featherweight Kent Flow.

1632
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 6: Very interesting fight and another one that's very intriguing from

1633
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 6: an underdog standpoint, because I think that Christian Rodriguez, while

1634
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 6: I think filling into that role at one hundred and

1635
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 6: forty five pounds isn't still isn't the biggest one hundred

1636
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 6: and forty five pounder, and he's going against a guy

1637
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 6: in Phelly who.

1638
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 5: Is tall and lanky.

1639
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 6: Now, Christian's gonna have to get on the inside, whether

1640
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 6: it's looking for takedowns and putting Philly on his back,

1641
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 6: which could be his route to victory, but also getting

1642
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 6: on the inside and landing shots, being able to counter

1643
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 6: Philly repeatedly and finding a way to neutralize or get

1644
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 6: on the inside of that job. So if he's able

1645
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 6: to do that, he wins his fight and probably does

1646
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 6: it very comfortably.

1647
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 5: However, Philly's not an easy guy to get a beat on.

1648
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 6: If he's moving well, if he's establishing that job and

1649
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 6: not sticking that chin up in the air, I think

1650
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 6: Philly might be an ink spoiler here. So I'm actually

1651
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 6: gonna go with Phelly here. Hey, yeah, I think, uh

1652
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 6: you know, am I gonna put money on it? We'll

1653
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 6: find out later, But I like Philly here in this

1654
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 6: underdog rule.

1655
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 5: I think it's an interesting fight.

1656
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's interesting stuff there. Kenny flory In, a former

1657
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 8: three time UFC world title challenger. We like it, all right,

1658
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 8: big things In the women's drawweight division, twenty three year

1659
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:23,799
Speaker 8: old Brazilian Yasmin Lucindo out of Fort d Laza minus

1660
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 8: one ninety two Angela Hill plus one sixty all right?

1661
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 8: So how does Lucindo respond to the lost to Amando

1662
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 8: Lamos That was back in March at UFC three thirteen.

1663
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 8: She had one four straight going in Brian. Now she

1664
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 8: draws the veteran Angela Hill. I know you gotta love

1665
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 8: a lot of love for Angebry. It'll be her twenty

1666
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 8: eighth UFC appearance. Hill is a woman. She is forty

1667
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 8: thirteen and fourteen in the UFC, right, but could easily

1668
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 8: read seventeen and ten in the UFC if you have

1669
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 8: a few balls. It bounced her way. What do you

1670
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 8: make of the strawwets here, Brian.

1671
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm gonna declare something I'm not saying it, Okay,

1672
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 4: I'm declaring it. Angela Hill's my new crush. Aaron Blanche Shield,

1673
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 4: I love it. You're off to the side. I got Angela.

1674
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,440
Speaker 8: Shields out well.

1675
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 4: She's married, so respectful. She's married. I'm married as well.

1676
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 4: The crush will stay, you know, amongst you in her.

1677
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 4: But she's hilarious, she's very funny. She's very good at

1678
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 4: everything she does, and she's really good at fighting, and

1679
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 4: she's really coming into her own later in her career.

1680
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 4: Her biggest thing. I mean, she has so many split

1681
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 4: decisions and acision and losses which could have went her way.

1682
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 4: But you know, grappling was a big, big thorn in

1683
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 4: her side early in her career. She's fixed that right.

1684
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 4: And Lucindo against Lamos had nothing off her back, I

1685
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 4: mean nothing off her back, like she got put down

1686
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 4: and did nothing. Angela Hill can do that. But Angela

1687
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,640
Speaker 4: Hill also just turns that volume up to eleven. It

1688
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 4: lands over one hundred strikes pretty much every fight.

1689
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 3: Right.

1690
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 4: She is the epitome of what you want to see

1691
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 4: in a woman's fight. She she doesn't get finished. She

1692
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 4: goes out there and tries to finish you, sharp elbows,

1693
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 4: sharp clinches, doesn't get tired, and has fixed holes in

1694
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 4: her game even at such a late stage. In her career,

1695
01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 4: which I absolutely love him, A huge fan favored of her.

1696
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 4: And you're giving me plus one sixty to a guy

1697
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 4: that knows chicks, Broy, that knows chicks. Give me the

1698
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 4: dog all day, plus one sixty.

1699
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, I figured you would go in that direction.

1700
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 8: And if she can take Lucendo's number eight ranking here, Henny,

1701
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 8: you just never know. She's talking title fight potentially made

1702
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 8: her debut December twenty fourteen at the Ultimate Fighter Season

1703
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 8: twenty finale, and really has had a lot of respects,

1704
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 8: an illustrious career when you think about everyone she's fought,

1705
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,839
Speaker 8: the longevity, the consistency working her way back to the UFC.

1706
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 8: Question is can she beat Yasmin and Lucindo this weekend?

1707
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Speaker 6: Josh, I am overwhelmed with everything that was just right there.

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Speaker 5: You guys are nailing it. I mean, gosh, have you

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Speaker 5: got Brian Peter he knows chicks. He's giving me Jego

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Speaker 5: Sanchez chance.

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Speaker 6: I mean, what the hell am I supposed to do here?

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Speaker 6: My goodness, go on intimidated over here? Okay, Well, I

1713
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 6: think it's a really interesting fight. I love Angela Hill.

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Speaker 6: She's just very likable. She's a great fighter. You know

1715
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Speaker 6: exactly what she's gonna give for each and every fight.

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Speaker 6: She always shows up. She's well rounded, and we have Lucindo,

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Speaker 6: who you know, has shown to have some vulnerable vulnerabilities

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01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 6: for sure. I do think though that she might be

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Speaker 6: the better athlete in that maybe not in conditioning wise

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01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 6: like Angela Hill is, but as far as her power,

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Speaker 6: you know, she does move really well. Angela Hill, though,

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Speaker 6: does have a very unorthodox approach together and that can

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Speaker 6: throw a lot of people off. So and the way

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01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 6: she mixes it all together, I think she's a legit

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01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 6: underdog pick here. But I think Lucindo's power. I think

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Speaker 6: if this might stays on the feet where I think

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Speaker 6: you know where I think it will be. I think

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01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 6: Lucindo can land the harder shots here, and for that reason,

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01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Lucindo. But and it may come

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01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 6: down to who the better wrestler is, you know, So

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01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 6: I think Angela Hill is a live dog for sure,

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Speaker 6: but I'm gonna go with the Brazilian here.

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Speaker 8: about three hundred people in Boston and then another twelve

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Speaker 5: But I love the clip when they asked you about Holloway, Dude.

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Speaker 8: That was like yeah, so right after the chat, yeah,

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Speaker 8: And maybe that's something that actually we could do on

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Speaker 8: the Anakin Florian podcast. Right, I name a fighter and

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Speaker 8: then you guys have to be quiet until I name

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Speaker 8: a fighter or show a fighter that is better than

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Speaker 8: that fighter. So one clip, maybe you guys didn't see

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Speaker 8: real quick. So they show Daniel Cormier, right, a fucking

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Speaker 8: broadcast part right, And then they're showing other guys and

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Speaker 8: you have to keep your mouth closed until they So

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Speaker 8: first they show beast Boy Chris Barnett, right, yeah, so

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01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 8: not better than DC. But then they show Kane VELAs

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Speaker 8: Kiss early on, and you know, d C is on

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Speaker 8: the record repeatedly as having said Kane's the greatest heavyweight

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Speaker 8: of all time. So that one threw me for a loop,

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Speaker 8: you know, but some people give me ship like stepe

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Speaker 8: A and Randy Cotour. I do not consider those guys

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Speaker 8: to be better than d C all time. Now, I

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Speaker 8: respect that if you do based upon certain accomplishments or whatever,

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Speaker 8: but I feel like d C is sort of criminally

1789
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Speaker 8: underappreciated in terms of his all time greatness. And so

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Speaker 8: I know people scoffed when maybe I said that, even

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Speaker 8: though stepe beat him twice, that he's better than steep A.

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Speaker 8: I'll take that to the grave or the cremation chamber.

1793
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 8: But I think Kane Velaska's prime Kane may be better DC,

1794
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 8: So that one sort of threw me for a little

1795
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 8: early on. But anyway, great day in Boston with all

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Speaker 8: the team from DraftKings. Really good people up there in

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Speaker 8: the hub of the universe. All right, comin event at

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Speaker 8: bandam Wait Steve ver Seg you just heard from him

1799
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,719
Speaker 8: here on the Anakin Florian podcast. Minus five hundred oda

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01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 8: Osbourne plus three seventy five so circumstances having this fight

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01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 8: at one hundred and thirty five pounds. Osbourne at times

1802
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 8: has been fighting for his job. He has risen like

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01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,839
Speaker 8: Christ to the occasion the Jamaican American still just thirty

1804
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 8: three actually twelveth UFC appearance here Saturday night. Steve Verseeg,

1805
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 8: the big favorite, Brian Petrie. Who do you like in

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01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 8: the comin Event?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I like seeing Steve Verseeg on the on the

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01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 4: on the program today. He lets him inside on his

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01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 4: men because his mental excuse me, because I kind of

1810
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 4: felt that way when he fought Moreno, he kind of

1811
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 4: fought safe. He was maybe a little scared to get

1812
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 4: knocked out. He wasn't the action pack guy that he

1813
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 4: was against Pantosian let it hang out, you know, he

1814
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 4: was a little more reserved obviously being a fighter. Getting

1815
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 4: knocked out, that's gonna that's gonna happen. That's gonna do

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01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:57,560
Speaker 4: that too, and I like where he's at now. No,

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01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 4: I like this at the one thirty five as well.

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01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 4: I mean one twenty five cut for a guy like him,

1819
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 4: who he fights and seems a lot taller than five eight.

1820
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 4: I thought he was five to eleven when I looked

1821
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 4: him up. When I take something, he's five minutes. He

1822
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 4: seems a little bit taller than that. But either way,

1823
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 4: I'm glad he seems happy in here, and props Ody

1824
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 4: Osborne for stepping up. That dude does not turn down fights.

1825
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 4: Problem is he's run into in the Steve Erseg, who

1826
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 4: I think is extremely motivated and who I think is

1827
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 4: better everywhere than Odia Osborne. I think Odia Osborne does

1828
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:25,839
Speaker 4: have some clean striking. I think he not got anybody

1829
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 4: in the vision on any given night. He's got some

1830
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,919
Speaker 4: solid wins in the division. But I think the grappling

1831
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 4: and the overall striking in game of Ersek is going

1832
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 4: to be a problem for Oda. I think ode when

1833
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 4: he gets to the ground, you know that he's gotten

1834
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 4: out of a lot of submissions, but eventually he'll he'll

1835
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 4: sircume to one and I think erse is not playing

1836
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 4: any games man. I think he's gonna take a back.

1837
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a really naked choke.

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01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 7: Uh.

1839
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 4: And I think it's gonna happen early within one or

1840
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 4: two rounds. So give me Steve Verzag for a nice

1841
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:50,679
Speaker 4: little bounce back. Whin here, Kenny.

1842
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 8: Mma is a crazy sport, right, I mean you sort

1843
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:56,560
Speaker 8: of outline the pressure that awaits Steve Sag when we

1844
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 8: just spoke to him about a quarter of an hour ago.

1845
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 8: And this sport is crazy, Like crazier things have happened

1846
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 8: than oday Osbourne finding a weapon here against Steve Verse

1847
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:06,719
Speaker 8: but or Seig about five to one for a reason,

1848
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 8: who do you like?

1849
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, first of all, but both these guys

1850
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 6: one and three in their last four fights, which is interesting. Obviously,

1851
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 6: the level of competition is vastly different, and I think

1852
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 6: this is a great fight for Steve Versik to come

1853
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 6: back and get a win and also look really good

1854
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,560
Speaker 6: in the process. I agree with Brian that he's better everywhere,

1855
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 6: you know. As far as all the odds, I think

1856
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 6: this one is probably the most that I'm line with

1857
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 6: at minus five hundred for Steve ver Sig. I'm not

1858
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 6: sure it's a number you can really bet on, but

1859
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 6: I do, like Steve Versik here in this spot.

1860
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 8: Now we get to my guy in the middleweight division,

1861
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 8: Anthony fucking Hernandez minus three forty. Roman delidze is plus

1862
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,839
Speaker 8: two seventy, so Fluffy eight and two in the UFC

1863
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 8: seven straight wins, yet still number ten in the middleweight division,

1864
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 8: Like what does a guy have to do? Some of

1865
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 8: that has to do with some big names and things

1866
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 8: like that. But Dalidzey incidentally is number nine in the world, right,

1867
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 8: so he's got the red corner. But the last four

1868
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 8: wins for Hernandez Edmund Schabazi and Roman Koppolo Michelle Puday

1869
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 8: to Brendan Allen, and now he gets the hard nosed

1870
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 8: George and romandalidze in his bracket. Ken Flow leads us

1871
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 8: off on the main event, Romandalidzey the underdog or Anthony

1872
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 8: Fluffy Hernandez the favorite.

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Speaker 5: Gehit let's go.

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Speaker 6: You know, sometimes I'll look at a fight and I'll

1875
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 6: be like, I already know who I'm gonna pick, But

1876
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 6: then I still need to go through my notes, I

1877
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 6: need to look at the bios, and I need to

1878
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 6: watch video.

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01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 5: And this was one of those that I kind of

1880
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 5: switched around.

1881
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 6: I went against what I twoly thought was going to

1882
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 6: be the winner, and just seeing the way that these

1883
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 6: guys match.

1884
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 5: Up, it's gonna be a really interesting fight.

1885
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:45,600
Speaker 6: Now, Delitze is coming in here with a lot of momentum,

1886
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 6: and I do think that he has found his groove.

1887
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 5: I think his striking is improved and his overall.

1888
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 6: MMA game is improved, and I think he's figured out

1889
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 6: how to either deal with this conditioning and be prepared

1890
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 6: for five round fights or you know, be more efficient

1891
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 6: and be more relaxed when he fights, which I think

1892
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 6: he definitely needed. So, but he's going against an absolute

1893
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 6: savage and Anthony fluffy Hernandez, who seems like he doesn't

1894
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 6: have an off button. He keeps a very fast paced fight,

1895
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 6: He gets in your face, and he tries to make

1896
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:24,799
Speaker 6: it a brutal grappling fight. Now, how successful that style

1897
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 6: can be against someone like Rumor Dalite, I'm not so sure.

1898
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 6: And I'm such a huge fan of Hernandez, but his

1899
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 6: style really thrives against guys that are, you know, basically strikers,

1900
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 6: dangerous strikers who can usually keep it standing.

1901
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 5: Dalite is a grappler in.

1902
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 6: My opinion, first and foremost has improved a striking great deal.

1903
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 6: But the size difference, the physicality difference, is what worries me,

1904
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 6: and I'm not sure Hernandez's takedowns are gonna be good

1905
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 6: enough over the course of five rounds to consistently take

1906
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 6: someone down as big and as strong as Delite.

1907
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 5: Would that level of grappling experience. I think Delitze has

1908
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 5: found himself.

1909
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 6: I like him in this underdog spot, and you guys

1910
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 6: know how much of a fan I am of Fluffy Hernandez,

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01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 6: but I don't think this fight vibes well with him.

1912
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 6: If Fluffy is able to win this fight, I think

1913
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 6: this would be one of his most impressive performances, just

1914
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 6: based on the fact that this is a very difficult

1915
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 6: stylistic matchup for him. So big fan of Hernandez, I

1916
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Speaker 6: thought I was gonna pick him heading into this. After

1917
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Speaker 6: watching tape, I switched things around, went with Dalitz. I

1918
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,600
Speaker 6: need some points, guys, I lost big last week, So

1919
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 6: I liked Alitia in this spot.

1920
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Speaker 8: That was enjoyable for me to listen to and sounds

1921
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 8: like a harbinger of things to come, with Kenny perhaps

1922
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 8: putting some cake down on Roma de Lindza at plus

1923
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 8: two seventy one time I called an Anthony Fluffy Hernandez fight. Brian,

1924
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 8: you know this well And I got off the air

1925
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:50,719
Speaker 8: and everybody on X was telling me that I said

1926
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 8: Anthony fucking Hernandez, when all I screamed was Anthony Fluffy Hernandez.

1927
01:30:56,320 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 8: But it was hard to differentiate three hundred tweets and

1928
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 8: like the clip and I'm like, oh my god, and no,

1929
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 8: thankfully we said Fluffy. But yeah, Dalidze right, he's thirty seven,

1930
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 8: but he looks like a guy who can realize success

1931
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 8: for some time. He's not. At three in the UFC,

1932
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 8: three fights have been wanted to row Anthony Smith, Kevin Holland,

1933
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 8: the five rounder versus Marvin Vittori. Last man it beat

1934
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 8: Fluffy Hernandez Kevin Holland back during the global pandemic, Brian Petrie,

1935
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 8: who do you like in the main event?

1936
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Kenny, I did the same thing Kenny did

1937
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 4: I when this first gut announced, I'm like, oh, it's

1938
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 4: Fluffy all day. Then I really went back and watched.

1939
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 4: I said, well, what, Dalitze's fucking a monster. This guy's huge,

1940
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 4: he can grapple, he's got leg locks like he's a

1941
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 4: probably not to mention, he's powerful on the feet and

1942
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 4: he went five hard rounds of a Tory landing over

1943
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 4: hunter strikes, so the cardial kind of checks out. But

1944
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 4: then I went back and watched Hernandez, and man, this

1945
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 4: guy special, right. I think speed beats power any day

1946
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 4: of the week. I'm a firm believer in that. And

1947
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 4: I think Hernandez, what he does really well is he

1948
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 4: you know, he gets described as like a Dagas Dandian guy,

1949
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,719
Speaker 4: you know, but he puts his punches together really well

1950
01:31:58,080 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 4: when he mixes in his takedowns. I think that's set

1951
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 4: everything up there. And I think he's really crafty on

1952
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 4: the ground. You know, if he goes, he goes for it, right.

1953
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 4: And then Michelle Pi had to fight, you know, he

1954
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 4: went for submissions but couldn't get it, so he just

1955
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 4: beat the fuck out of him. Pieda could have quit

1956
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 4: any time he won it, but he did, and his

1957
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 4: face is mangled. Hernana's lay on hundred fifty two significant

1958
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 4: strikes on him, like this dude's a beast. And then

1959
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 4: Brandon Allen just completely shut down a high level Brandon Allen.

1960
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 4: Brandon Alla started second, thinking of his fucking career choices,

1961
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 4: like I can't. I couldn't get anything on this guy,

1962
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 4: like I think Fluffy's special. The only time Chris Curtis

1963
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 4: has ever messaged me, he's messaged me every time a

1964
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 4: fight's about to get announced, he message me, I'm thinking

1965
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 4: they offered me so and so, they offered me so

1966
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 4: and so. Twice was he's got offered Fluff Fernandez and

1967
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 4: both times before I responded back, I said, boy, I

1968
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 4: don't know, like that's that's a tough one for you, Chris.

1969
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:45,640
Speaker 4: That's not a fucking easy fight. And I would never

1970
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 4: say the Chris guy love him and uh and Chris

1971
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 4: has good taking on offense, but Fluffy's just a different

1972
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 4: kind of level. I think his striking is always improving,

1973
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 4: his cardio is NonStop here. I think that's ultimately what's

1974
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 4: gonna do it. I think this could be competitive. I

1975
01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 4: think the lead is Goulda have moments on the ground,

1976
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 4: moments on the feet. But I think Hernandez eventually when

1977
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 4: he gets into a groove where Dalite is going to

1978
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 4: slow down with five hard rounds of grappling, no doubt

1979
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 4: about it, Hernandez is gonna take over and probably win

1980
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 4: a decision. If he gets a finish, put him in

1981
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 4: the fucking top five already, right, if he finishes, delite

1982
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 4: TKO submission whenever. Yeah, he's top five, he's to five.

1983
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:19,640
Speaker 4: Fuck fuck the rankings. He's top five. Yeah, but I

1984
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 4: like Fluffy.

1985
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, it got to be an eliminator, right, even more

1986
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 8: so than the ranking if he's able to do that.

1987
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 8: All right, one final act, of course, you know UFC

1988
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 8: three nineteen is coming up in less than two weeks.

1989
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,839
Speaker 8: Those guys get three thousand dollars to spend on that offering.

1990
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 8: Just one thousand dollars in place your bets this week

1991
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 8: quickly we update the standings. Nice job by Brian Peachey

1992
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 8: last week. By the way, if you tailed thousand bucks

1993
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:42,680
Speaker 8: on Neil Magne, put the whole stack on Neil at

1994
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 8: plus one seventy plus seventeen hundred there. Now, the week

1995
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 8: prior it was something three leg parlay.

1996
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:50,679
Speaker 4: Correct, we dropped it, We missed, we missed Charma knockout yet.

1997
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:54,560
Speaker 8: So you're you know you're you're coming back though, I

1998
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 8: mean plus seventeen hundred and Kent philp put his whole

1999
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 8: stack on the Tows round Betski, So he's you know,

2000
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 8: still got by, you know, fourteen thousand or so. But George,

2001
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 8: but and Kenny, by the way, nice week for you

2002
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 8: on the Abu Dhabi show. We didn't update those standings,

2003
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 8: but you had the straight wager hit on Bryce Mitchell,

2004
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 8: UH and RDR. You did give four hundred back on

2005
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 8: the flyer on Marcus McGee. But anyway, the lead ist

2006
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 8: Ken flows, but the floor is Brian Petries one thousand

2007
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:21,440
Speaker 8: dollars to spend UFC Fight Night Delize versus Hernandez.

2008
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 4: Go ahead, John, you know John always you know, in

2009
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:26,720
Speaker 4: the chaft for people don't know, sometimes it's bad anic, right.

2010
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 4: You know, Jason's a nice one. John's the mean one, right,

2011
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 4: But he was just being so nice right there. Yeah,

2012
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 4: you're coming back down fourteen k I appreciate the niceness there,

2013
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 4: John Listen. I told you someone who's getting Magni last week,

2014
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 4: and they did Neil Magne Neil Magni.

2015
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 8: I mean that's what he does, guys. Uh.

2016
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 4: And this week I'm going on the same train. I

2017
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 4: know you guys hate when I do it. Put parlays together.

2018
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 4: I'm a straight wager guy. I'm also a guy that

2019
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 4: knows chicks one thousand bucks Angela Hill.

2020
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 8: This is the way you do it. This is how

2021
01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 8: you do it, right. The only thing that you could

2022
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 8: make be due differently? Sure, right, all yours nine hundred

2023
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 8: bucks on Angela Hill or even nine hundred and fifty

2024
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 8: on Angela Hill and then do a fucking seven leg

2025
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 8: parlay fifty bucks? Are you trying to catch him or not?

2026
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:11,720
Speaker 8: You know?

2027
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 4: Right, You're right, I'm gonna mix. I'm gonna do something

2028
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 4: exotic next week. I literally thought about that, but I'm like,

2029
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 4: the lines on the main.

2030
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 8: Card, no, I get it, didn't have to lie out. Yeah,

2031
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 8: I'm plucking the Miles John's line from like best fight

2032
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 8: odds dot com. Right, And I also think I'm asking

2033
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 8: you guys to handicap the fight cards six days out.

2034
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, which my hole was gonna be Julius Walker. You

2035
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 4: know he's on the he's on the prelims.

2036
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2037
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:36,719
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm gonna if he's like minus two hundred,

2038
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna fucking thought. You know, he's minus like six fifty.

2039
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 4: I can't catch a break.

2040
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 8: So yeah, all right, kem flow, no bitcoin, you got

2041
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 8: a thousand American dollars to spend who do you like?

2042
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, well things are about to get more interesting. God,

2043
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 6: some of my bets here. So I'm gonna put five

2044
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:59,799
Speaker 6: n on Lis Sindo. Here we go, big yeah, Yeah, ahead,

2045
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 6: and then the other five hundred dollars I'm gonna put

2046
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Speaker 6: on deletes hate man.

2047
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 5: So we're splitting it up, splending it up.

2048
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 4: This guy, he's not trying to protect a lead, but

2049
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 4: he's trying to go over the throat.

2050
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 5: I'm going I love it, Jill.

2051
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Speaker 8: It's a plus two seventy right now in DraftKings Sportsbook.

2052
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2053
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2058
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Speaker 4: That's right, boys, I appreciate having me on as always.

2059
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Speaker 4: Have a good week. I'll see you.

2060
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Speaker 8: All right, we gotta get on out of here. Our

2062
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Speaker 8: executive producer is Cody Marrow. His dog is Scuba. Thanks

2063
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2064
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 8: say thank you, so much to the flyweight contender for

2065
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Speaker 8: joining us here during his fight week of course, Brian Petrie,

2066
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:53,479
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2068
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