WEBVTT - Ep 127: Brian Eno 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:02.080 The other one I'm doing. 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.200 It's a song I wrote with David Bowie about thirty 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:08.480 years ago. I think the only release it had was 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:12.960 as a B side. Actually it's a great song and 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:21.520 so I'm taking that apart and rebuilding it with some hyaenas. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:27.400 Good evening and welcome to a special bonus episode of 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.560 Midnight Chats. First time we've ever done this, but we 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:32.800 do have an extra episode this week which we wanted 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.440 to bring you. Tonight's guest is Brian Eno, and whilst 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.120 we normally put out an episode of Midnight Chats every 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:43.320 Monday night at midnight, this is a little extra special 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:44.920 episode that we've been working on. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:45.360 Greg. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:47.680 I'm going to let you introduce this because this is 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:48.720 very much your baby. 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.160 Let's call it our Earth Day Special because that's coming 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.160 up and I'll explain that in a second. But yeah, 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:56.080 we wanted to bring you this because it's hot off 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.680 the press, it's straight out in the oven stew, it's 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:02.600 still scolding hot. This couldn't wait till our normal Monday 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.000 midnight drop. That's because, like you say, earlier today there 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.200 was an announcement about a super innovative music initiative led 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.280 by Earth percent who Are an organization co founded by 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:17.559 Brian Eno, our trailblazing guest on the podcast Tonight. Lots 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.559 of amazing artists involve, and lots of new music being 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:24.000 released today. So what you're about to hear, you can 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.240 actually go out and listen to those songs on streaming services, etc. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:31.520 Today because this is all about Earth Day and that's 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.600 coming up this Monday, April to twenty second, and as 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.600 many people know who will be listening, that's the day 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:41.160 that's marks all around the world by people and communities 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.680 and others sharing their support for the protection of our 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.559 environment and the planet. And so Brian and Earth Percent 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.080 they have this initiative it's called Sounds Right, which is 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:53.960 all about crediting the sounds of nature in songwriting. It's 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:57.480 absolute genius, or I think it is, and it's explained 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.640 in the chat you're about to hear, and I should 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:02.720 say also post some links into the show notes so 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:04.840 that people can go and read and listen to the 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:06.760 next everything else more about it. 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:13.480 Basically earlier this week on episode with MGMT, I made 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.639 a joke at the beginning that you were best friends 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.440 with them because I was being annoying and I'm going 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.040 to make the same joke now, but it's not so 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.360 much a joke this time. Because you've met Brian Eno 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.600 a few times through different things. We've recorded a podcast 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.240 with him, another podcast that we did a while ago. 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:35.800 But he does sound like he really genuinely. 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:36.040 Likes you in this. 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.200 Am I that difficult to like? I can? 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.360 I mean, I can see why. There's something about someone 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:46.120 that you revere, that's that's you know, like a legendary figure. 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:47.680 When they say your name back to you, do you 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.799 find this like he says Greg back to you, Yeah, 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.000 which I'm pretty sure some of the some of the 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.360 episodes I've recorded I've left and they've not known my 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.840 name by the Whereas the way he talks about it, 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:00.639 he says Greg back to it. I think it's really 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:04.280 sweet and it's really lovely, and he clearly enjoyed talking 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.080 to you about it. As I said, you've spoken before. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.840 We've been to his studio. It's not like a normal studio, though, 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.920 is it? You recorded this there? But it's not like 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.040 you expect recording studios to be, with a big mixing 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.800 desk and a wall of glass where you've got a 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:22.280 booth inside. It's it's like an empty room it is. 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:23.960 I mean, just to speak to that first point that 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.239 you make, just to clear up, I'm not Besti's with Brianino, 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:33.440 have met him before. He's an incredibly amiable guy, very humble, 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:39.280 very sweet, very down to earth basically. But you're right, 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.360 it is the stuff of dreams to go to Brianino's studio, 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.560 drink some mint tea with him and you're hearing this, 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.440 he plays me some new music. We went into the 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.160 little side room and he played me some new music, 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.440 which was just like I was playing it cool obviously. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.160 I was just like, oh sure, yeah, Brian just playing 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:54.840 a bit of new music. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:55.440 Totally fine. 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:56.200 But you're right. 0:03:56.240 --> 0:04:00.160 The studio itself, it's not what you'd expect, probably not 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:04.120 full of instruments and huge sound desks and sort of 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:09.200 memorials and memories to the legendary albums and music that 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.800 have been recorded there. It's pretty sparse, like it's a 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.800 table and some chairs and some of like Brian's artwork 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:20.640 sort of around the place, and a humble kitchen and it's. Yeah, 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.400 I think every time an artist comes there, they really do. 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:25.760 They bring their own thing to it, do you know 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:27.520 what I mean? It's like a blank canvas for them 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:28.719 to go and explore. 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.039 Do you think we need to tell our listeners, not 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:36.440 tell our listeners, remind our listeners who Brian Peter Georgio. 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.960 Is, Well, you go for it. Shoot. 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.240 I think most people you know are aware of who 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.119 you know is. But in case you don't, hear is 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:49.040 a seventy five year old man from Melton, Suffolk, as 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.840 we all know, are you reading it doesn't matter where 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.800 I'm getting my facts. He's got three children. He was 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.520 born in nineteen Stop. 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.440 Right there, tell us about his contribution to music history. 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.760 Please fifteenth of Mace got birthday coming up? You know, is, 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.280 of course the godfather of ambient music. That's one of 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:13.120 his things. He worked with Bowie a lot, especially on 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.800 his Berlin trilogy. A member of Roxy Music early on, 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.599 a visual artist, a sound designer. He's produced so many 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:25.839 other people as well. You two, Coldplay, talking Heads, Bowie, etc. 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:26.599 Et cetera. 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.520 There's so much to get into, but this, as Greg 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:35.159 says is, it's focused on a particular new project that 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.440 he's got coming up. It's really fascinating stuff. We put 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.440 loads of links in the description of this podcast so 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.520 you can check out all the things that they're talking about. 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:45.679 What if I missed out Greg before we go. 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.120 What I would say is that there's a lot of 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.200 chat about music and climate in here, which as you 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.680 can tell, I love talking to Brian about. But there's 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.320 also the release of what's been called the definitive documentary 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.680 of Brian Nay's life. He could have made this at 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.080 any point probably in the life like three decades, but 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.440 has chosen to do something now. So we talk about that. 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.720 It's called Eno, but of course this is Brian Eno, 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.520 and so there's a twist. So this film is a 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:13.480 generative film, so it's different every time it's screened. That's 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.000 because it's using AI and it's being premiered in London 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.880 at the Barbercane Cinema tomorrow night, Saturday the twentieth. And 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.360 there's also a soundtrack that goes with the album that's 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.200 got some unreleased music on it, and that's out now, 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.159 so if people are interested in that, they can go 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.000 and listen to that and check it out right now. 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.720 Okay, that's probably enough from us. Thank you for downloading 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.400 this episode of Midnight Chats. If you're new to us, 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.640 this is the Late Night Music Interview podcast. Please do 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.480 give us a follow wherever you're listening. We're also on 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:47.120 social media at Midnight Chats pod. Instagram is your best 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.200 bet there. Stay in touch dm US, let us know 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:54.000 what you're thinking of these shows. There's some video clips 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.520 from some of our interviews, including this one with Brian Eno, 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.680 a special one this week. We'll all be back next Monday, 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.440 but here is an extra episode for this week. Greg 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.960 Cochran talking to the legendary Brian Eno. 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:16.800 Brian, welcome to Midnight Chats and thank you for inviting 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.000 us to do this in your studio, which is a 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:24.760 place steeped in creativity and myth and legend and can 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:26.920 I add very nice mint tea. 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:29.600 Thanks thanks for inviting us here to have a chat 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:30.080 with you today. 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.040 Thank you, Greg. It's a pleasure to suit you again. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.160 You two, and we're sharing this episode of the podcast 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.119 around Earth Day. So I want to start by talking 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.960 to you about your work in climate change, in the 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.200 climate space and your passion for that, your kind of 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.160 activism in that area, and how you've brought that together 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:50.160 with your music and the music community more broadly. Some 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.200 people listening to this will be familiar with Earth percent 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.160 the organization that you co founded, so maybe four years 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:01.760 ago now perhaps for you. Yeah, the tagline of Earth 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.080 Ascent is unleashing the power of music in service of 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.200 the planet. So I wonder if you could start by 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:10.440 briefly telling us a bit about what earth percent is 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.600 and what are you doing when you say you're unleashing 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.640 the power of music in service of the planet. 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.960 So Earth Percent is really a way of connecting the 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:24.840 music business to the problem of climate change. So a 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.720 lot of money flows through the music business, and most 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:32.559 of the people I know, artists and business people in 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:38.920 the industry as they like to call it, are concerned 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.920 about climate change, and many of them don't quite know 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:47.440 how to address it. So it's not for lack of 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:53.320 goodwill or generosity. It's out of confusion really that they're thinking, 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.600 there are so many things to do, it's such an emergency. 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.760 What can I do? And so we wanted to see 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:01.800 if we can answer that question and set up a 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.960 simple way for people to be sure that any contribution 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:05.839 they made. 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:10.920 Was being used well. So our initial idea. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:15.679 Was to say to people, give us one percent of 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:19.160 your income from say your next tour or your next 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:24.400 album or a song or a show, and we will 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.440 make sure that that goes to people who are really 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:31.520 being effective in terms of dealing with climate change. And 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.440 this is very often the smaller organizations that you wouldn't 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:38.920 normally hear about. We don't support green Peace or Friends 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:40.960 of the Earth or things like that, not because we 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:42.960 don't like them, but because. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:44.200 They already have a high profile. 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:48.959 So we're looking for smaller organizations who are doing really 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:53.200 critical work. And some of those organizations are as small 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:57.720 as two or three or five people. We have had 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:02.760 some help. Some companies have been very generous with us. 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:07.280 Most of them haven't really yet caught on, so they 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:09.880 they're kind of leaving it to their artists to do 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:13.040 the work. But there are, you know, lots of other 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:23.440 people making money out of music, like promoters or agents, managers, lawyers. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.800 There's a whole structure behind the music business, and we 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.520 want to persuade them that really, if their artists are 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.600 willing to contribute, so should they be. And one of 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.640 the reasons I want to start this thing was that 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:41.679 I wanted to say, let's not be pessimistic. 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:42.520 It won't help. 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:49.839 It's very easy to be pessimistic, and it's actually an 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.760 overstated case in a way. You know, bad news sells, 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.319 so we see a lot of that, and there is 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.200 a lot of bad news, There's no doubt there's a 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.640 lot of bad news, but there's also a lot of 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.640 good news, and we don't hear much about that. I 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.720 would really like to redress the balance and say there 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.920 is a fight going on. You know, people tend to 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:15.040 cast the climate fight as we're either going to win 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:20.320 or lose. It isn't as simple as that we will 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.679 never win. We're going to have to do a lot 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:28.760 of adapting and we can lose in many different ways. 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:35.440 If we manage to restrict climate temperature rise to something 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:40.400 like two percent, there's a chance two point one percent 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.000 is quite a lot worse than two percent. Two point 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:47.199 two percent is quite a lot worse, and it gets 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:51.120 exponentially more catastrophic as you go up. So it's worth 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.760 every little bit that you can do to stop that 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:56.240 change happening. 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:58.520 Anyway, that's enough from me for a moment. 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:04.160 It's a fantastic summary of where the idea of earth 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.600 percent has come from and why and how you've tried 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.960 to galvanize the music community so far, and there is 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.200 I agree with you a lot more engagement that could 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:14.000 be coming. 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.240 From the music community. 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.480 You've done an incredible amount of work in quite a 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:23.000 short period of time. Earlier this year I saw you speak. 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.080 I've seen you speak a couple of times this year, 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.040 but earlier this year I saw you speak alongside Jervis 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:32.520 Cocker from POULT who's created a project called Biophobia, and 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.280 he's kind of collaborating with Earth percent and appearing at 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.480 Earth percent kind of affiliated and partnered events to deliver 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.600 this new project. I wonder if you'd talk to us 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.079 a little bit about that, what it is, your interpretation 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.280 of what it is, what you've made of it, and 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:49.160 how you engage Javis to talk about climate and storytelling. 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:53.160 Javis has been such a treasure. I have to say, 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:57.440 he's been really, really helpful. So we kind of first 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:01.560 spoke to him about a year ago and said, would 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.440 be very nice if you join us because you're a 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:09.439 good front man. People like Jarvis quite rightly. He's a 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.840 very nice person and he's a thoughtful person as well, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.400 so he's exactly the kind of person you want to 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.360 be a face in a campaign like this. So we 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:27.320 talked to him probably about a year ago and he said, yeah, 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.160 I think I'd be interested to help, and then didn't 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.880 hear from him for quite a long time, and I thought, oh, well, 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:37.480 perhaps it's not for him. And then he came back 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.200 to us and said, I think I've got an idea 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.319 and okay, fine, love to look at it when you're ready, 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.520 And he turned up at my studio here and he 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.800 performed this piece is really a piece of performance art, 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:57.480 and he performed it for three of us here, and 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:02.000 it's about a thirty minute piece and it's so clever. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.400 I think it's one of the most brilliant things I've 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:08.240 seen done in this area. And I'll tell you why. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:12.240 Without going into details of exactly what it is, I 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.800 can tell you that it's a sort of PowerPoint presentation 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:18.080 with a difference. The difference being, of course, Javis Cocker, 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:20.920 who doesn't do a PowerPoint. 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.560 Presentation like anybody else would do it. 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:29.800 But it's very powerful and it's very moving, and I 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:34.520 think the reason it's moving is because he's done it 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:38.880 as himself. It's not Javis suddenly dropping his day job 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.960 to come and talk about climate change as though he's 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:47.120 a scientist. It's Javis being Javis and applying his mind 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:51.320 to this issue, his mind and his abilities as an artist. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.680 That's what I think is really brilliant about it. What 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.120 so often happens is that artists or celebrities, you know, 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:02.640 sports people, whatever, are sort of invited to talk just 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:09.040 because they're famous. Their actual experience is not called upon. 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.960 People don't know how to use it, So you get 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.080 people like me just sort of stuck in front of 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:19.280 a microphone saying something about a subject that really isn't ours. 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.040 You know, you should be talking to climate scientists or 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.280 moral philosophers or other people if you want that kind 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:34.040 of information. But to take one person's reaction to this subject, 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.920 a person who's thought about it deeply and has thought 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:42.240 about how to express his feelings about it deeply, that's 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:46.520 really quite revolutionary. So the reason I'm so excited about 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.840 Javis's contribution is because I think that's the way we 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:54.480 artists have to tackle this. It's not take off the 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:58.240 overcoat or the smark or whatever you use as an 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:02.240 artist and stop being an artist and talk seriously about 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.920 something that We've had a. 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.480 Lot of that and we want something different now. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.520 I think, yeah, definitely onto this year for Earth Day, 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.040 Earth percent are launching a project called Sounds Right, and 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.160 the idea and correct me if I'm wrong here is 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:22.040 that nature, the sounds of nature were obviously artistic expressions. 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:24.600 Original muse. 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.200 Being that like the first songs, the first stories, the 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:32.640 first paintings, would have been inspired by our natural surroundings 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:36.120 and our environments. And that obviously happens all the time 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:40.080 to this day. But somewhere along the line, we've forgotten 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.440 that nature was important than that always very much taken 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.240 it for granted. So this is about this is a 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:50.280 project about giving nature the credit that she deserves for 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:56.640 her contribution to our artistic expressions. And so Earth percent 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.120 have got around sort of a number of artists, fifteen 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.320 or so artists are all sharing unreleased or unheard to 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:06.680 this point music that feature an artist, and the artist 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:08.840 is Nature, so she features. 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:09.440 On these tracks. 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:11.879 What happens then, is when these songs get listened to, 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.720 when the time comes for the royalties to be distributed, 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.159 Nature gets her credit. She receives a royalty and that 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:22.760 goes back into one percent, and it's distributed to the 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:27.879 protection and the elevation and the restoration of nature. Is 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.359 that a neat summary of where the ideas sort of 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.879 come from and how you're trying to approach this. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.639 That's a brilliant summary, and I wish i'd said it. 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:43.280 It's really it's exactly exactly right. Yes, First of all, 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.520 the attraction of it is that it does, hopefully if 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.000 it works, and I think it will work, it provides 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.000 a very long term income stream. 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.200 You are one of the artists that are participating as well, 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.760 and so you're sharing the reimagining of a song for this, 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.200 and you've been working on it the past days, I understand. 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:05.679 So there's two songs I'm working on. One is with 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:11.919 the Norwegian singer Aurora, who's one of the most extraordinary 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:17.119 people I've ever met, absolutely original human being. You just 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.000 think who designed her? 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:20.800 Yeah, she's a lot of fun tog out. 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:28.000 She's such a one off, wonderful person. So we took 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:32.760 one of her songs. I think, yes, I am remembering 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.800 the title because it had another title which I'm getting 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.879 mixed up with. But it's called now a Soul with 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:43.840 No King. It's a beautiful song. And so what we've 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:45.680 done with that song is we've made a. 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:46.080 Sort of. 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.720 It's as though she's walking through a forest and then 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:54.600 we've made a clearing, a kind of sonic clearing in 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:59.480 the forest, and we've inhabited that with Norwegian birds and 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:03.480 her voice and it's I think it's. 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.399 Really a lovely result. I'll play you a little bit 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:06.000 of it later. 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.399 The other one i'm doing, it's a song I wrote 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:14.200 with David Bowie about thirty years ago, and we recorded 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:18.120 a version of it. I think the only release it had. 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:21.640 Was as a B side. Actually, it's a great song, 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:22.680 and so. 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:31.000 I'm taking that apart and rebuilding it with some hyenas. 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:35.320 I was not expecting you to say. 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:38.920 That, Well, I've got a number of recordings of different 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:43.920 animals here. I just wanted I wanted big, slightly menacing 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:48.280 animals in the song, not birds and wind and things 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:52.840 like that. So I tried a Siberian tiger. 0:19:53.359 --> 0:20:00.359 That was a bit too overwhelming. I tried some rooks. 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:03.600 I've always loved rooks, but they sounded like ducks in 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:08.520 that context, which is not quite the same message. And 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.119 the two I've settled on and I'm working with at 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:15.159 the moment. I haven't finished this piece yet. Hyenas and 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:21.119 wild pigs. The wild pigs sound really good. They're in 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.800 a kind of frequency range, which is quite hard to 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:24.840 fit into the music. 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:26.440 But I'm working on that. 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:32.840 But so so, yes, we'll have We'll have David Brye 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:34.240 and some wild pigs. 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.520 There's something so perfect about that, because obviously you enjoyed 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:44.040 such a sort of warm and surreal, humor filled relationship 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:44.600 with David. 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:45.680 He would love it. 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:47.919 I was going to say, you think you'd approve of 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.440 wild wild pigs and hyenas. 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:54.280 He'd say, Oh, it sounds good to Babra. I think 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:58.119 we should go ahead with that. It's one of the 0:20:58.200 --> 0:20:59.919 voices he used a lot in the studio. 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.200 Yeah, what was it that the song is called? 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:04.480 Get Real? Is that right? 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:05.040 Get Real? 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:05.600 Get Real? 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:09.600 What? Why did you want to revisit that particular song? 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:11.280 Has that been sort of nagging away at you? 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:12.040 Or you? Yes? 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:14.080 So i'd completely forgotten the song. 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:15.200 I don't. 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.760 I still don't even really remember making it. It was 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:23.160 pretty quickly done, I think. But I liked the title 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:27.840 get Real, especially for this, because what we're talking about 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:31.560 is using real sounds of the earth in a piece 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:35.560 of music. And I think it's a really good song too. 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:39.399 I love the song, and it was kind of unfinished. 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:41.480 I think we had. 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:42.960 A bit of a surplus of material. 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:47.040 And I've found other things that we did that that 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:51.639 never got released, which are also really good. So you know, 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:55.960 we were working fast and with great excitement and whatever 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:59.600 got finished when it went out onto records, but that 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:03.280 piece didn't really get finished. The B side version of it, 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:06.240 which I think was I don't even know that it 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:07.840 was a B side. I think it was an extra 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:11.680 track on a on an album released somewhere something like that. 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:17.120 But it's a it's a powerful song and with this 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:21.320 and very good lyrics by the way, it's really a 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.160 good lyric in it. 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:26.240 And with this new. 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:31.879 Kind of container that we're putting it in of being 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:36.080 a song about relationship with the earth, I think it 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:39.560 really works. I haven't finished it yet, so this is all. 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.200 I think it will really work, I should be saying. 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:46.320 I'm positively well, it's I mean, the original song is 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:48.560