WEBVTT - Jeff Gordon Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm John And this is cut

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Good do it, Good do it. They's getting

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<v Speaker 1>down to do it. Good do it. We asked the

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<v Speaker 1>questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked,

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<v Speaker 1>let's cut to it. You ain't heard am about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Then we're about to let you know. It's all that's hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>What up? What up? What up? Man? I got a

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<v Speaker 1>story for you. Oh so with chit chat and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to be a lot more not a lot more,

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more approachable. All right. So I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to my neighbor and he he was telling me the

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<v Speaker 1>story and like everybody else, you know, how you live

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<v Speaker 1>in neighborhoods and there's people you talk to that's really

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<v Speaker 1>like what they're either on your in your radius of

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<v Speaker 1>like a cross the street or to the right of

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<v Speaker 1>to the left of you, but very few people really

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<v Speaker 1>interact with depending on the size of your neighborhood, like

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that's in the front interest if you live in

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<v Speaker 1>the back, or maybe just like your next door name. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is like across the street. Like our kids

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<v Speaker 1>play together a lot, so we're you know, hey, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing, how's your week? Blah blah. So this

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<v Speaker 1>one of my neighbors. He is like a cyclist, like

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<v Speaker 1>mountain bike, has the outfits like he's he's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>like on Sunday when you maybe Saturday, or during the week,

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<v Speaker 1>or even in the afternoon if there's like a hot day,

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<v Speaker 1>he's outside like redoing his retooling his bike, washing the bike, golf.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. He about that life. He's about that life.

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<v Speaker 1>So he tells me about some folks in the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, Man, I rode my bike. I got invited

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<v Speaker 1>to ride with some guys in the neighborhood. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So I'm telling the story as my neighbor.

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<v Speaker 1>Just man, I'm riding a bike. And he said, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>we go and I don't know. But he says, riding

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<v Speaker 1>a bike with speed it's important. But also you have

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<v Speaker 1>to know your surroundings. So they're in a they're riding

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<v Speaker 1>a bike in the area he doesn't know. So this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, the neighbor in our neighborhood. He says, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I'll never ride bikes with this dude ever again.

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<v Speaker 1>I said it was that bad. He goes, let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you why it was bad. I said why. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>they're riding. So now he's riding his bike in a

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<v Speaker 1>unfamiliar trail. So he's ride and he says, every single

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<v Speaker 1>time he catches up with the guy, the guy takes off.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, he's trying not to be rude, but he's like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this dude needs to slow down. But every time he

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<v Speaker 1>catches up to him, the guy takes off. So he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and he doesn't want to be the guy's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>slow down, you're going too fast. Because he's a new

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<v Speaker 1>guy and if these guys are cool, he doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to lose the opportunity to ride bikes with some new guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this guy just moved. He moved to several months

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<v Speaker 1>ago from Detroit. There's a whole etiquette behind this. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but he said, this dude is really just he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's huffing and puffing like and guy's like you all right,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's he you know, his his breathing is no,

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<v Speaker 1>but he says, oh, yeah, I'm fine. But he says, Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>I am dying, like this dude is kicking my ass.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh, what's the problem. He said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the problem. This dude. Does it really look like

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that should be peddling consistently as fast as

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<v Speaker 1>he's peddling. I said, I don't get it, all right. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>the dude is a little bit. His weight and his

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<v Speaker 1>speed don't compute. Okay, big big bones, bones, But he said,

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<v Speaker 1>just pounding his ass off. And he said, bro. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a pretty good writer. You know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean to judge, but I understand why this dude it's

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<v Speaker 1>killing me, Like I'm killing me. So he said. This

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<v Speaker 1>goes on for the next hour, in twenty minutes, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's going, He's going, And then they finally finished with

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<v Speaker 1>the trail and he's like, man, he was like, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing? He's like, man, it was all right,

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<v Speaker 1>it was cool. You want to come next week? He's like, yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I gotta talk with the wife and see

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<v Speaker 1>how and things going. So it was three of them,

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<v Speaker 1>my neighboring and the other two guys, he says. The

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<v Speaker 1>friend spills the beans. The friend tells them the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that invited him over. This dude is riding guess what

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<v Speaker 1>an e bike? Mm hmm, he was riding electrical bike. Cold.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, if I had Superman heat seeking eyes, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have killed him on the spot. He said. It

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<v Speaker 1>was so the dude, you can still generate the pedals

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<v Speaker 1>even on an e bike. Bro, I guess the e

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<v Speaker 1>bike is doing all the work. You can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said, the dude, but here's the party, He said,

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<v Speaker 1>he was piste off about the guy who invited him

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even tell him. His body told on him. So

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time transmission, for the whole hour and a

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<v Speaker 1>half to do our fifty minutes just bike ride over

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<v Speaker 1>thirty forty miles fifty miles, this dude barely did anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, what are you gonna do? He said, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not riding with that dude ever again. And that

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like, it's so, why are you telling

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<v Speaker 1>the story. What's the whole point? The point is made.

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<v Speaker 1>People are doing things and just cutting short, capping and

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<v Speaker 1>snitching is what I got from that story. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine me you working out or something like in a

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<v Speaker 1>gym and I got I got forty five place, But

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<v Speaker 1>they really attend they just look like for yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>you keep them clean though yeah we we we max

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<v Speaker 1>and you maxing like to fifty times. But really yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like you got you got their weights from like say

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<v Speaker 1>a movie. Yeah right, they got him at like the

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<v Speaker 1>here in Charlotte is this little discovery place where they

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<v Speaker 1>look they look like they're heavy, but they're really not. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was just I was like, man and they

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<v Speaker 1>just told his story and I just thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>hilarious because really, how many times have you done something

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<v Speaker 1>or been with somebody and co and you comparing and

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<v Speaker 1>realize you're comparing the to a person who's really not

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<v Speaker 1>even putting it in that work. So I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was I thought it was a stop yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>leading people astrain? Yeah, yeah, and stopping for doughnuts after

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<v Speaker 1>the bike in the pacie didn't match up, not even close.

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<v Speaker 1>So who we got coming up on the Cut to

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<v Speaker 1>It podcast, We've got Jeff Gordon, the retired driver of

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<v Speaker 1>the number twenty four car. He's a four time NASCAR

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<v Speaker 1>Cup Series champion and he has there most wins in

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<v Speaker 1>NASCAR history. Right now, he's a Fox Sports analyst for

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<v Speaker 1>the NASCAR Cup Series. Jeff Gordon joined us in studio

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<v Speaker 1>for the Cut to It podcast. Jeff Gordon, thanks for coming,

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<v Speaker 1>my pleasure. Always been a fan of this guy over here, Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, I think we met a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't really hung out, but but but we've met,

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<v Speaker 1>and mad respect for for what you did on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think I've told you this. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a long time forty Niners fan. But I've lived in

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte for uh who many years, going back to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>early nineties when I came to NASCAR, and so uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know when when the Panthers came. I always always

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<v Speaker 1>had a special place there that as long as you

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<v Speaker 1>were playing my team and uh but huge, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fan of your work and and always always loved what

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<v Speaker 1>you brought on the field. Well he's fan of you

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Um, I'm actually a four friends so that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. So yeah, so this is this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start off from the Bay Area. You know, my family's

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<v Speaker 1>for Monterey and then my my folks moved down to

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<v Speaker 1>l A. So grew up in l A. Um but

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<v Speaker 1>so cold man, beautiful place it sure he is, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no place like it. Traffic and all. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I don't live there. I'll be honest. I

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<v Speaker 1>like to drive. I do not like to sit. I

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<v Speaker 1>need to be moving. I just like going fishing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to just put a hook in the water.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to actually catch some fish. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>don't fish. You don't have the patience for it. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never something got to go with the right people. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>invited me to fish. I will not say the name,

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<v Speaker 1>because you hit me with the flex and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going fishing and you want to join. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we could do something else, but I don't fish.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to be yeah, you don't fish with the

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<v Speaker 1>right people. I used to be like that until until

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<v Speaker 1>I started finding the right experiences where I was like, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a whole another level fishing right here, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can get into So you're fishing up nor No. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean my parents have a pond that they stocked

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<v Speaker 1>and and I'll take my kids out there and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>do a little you know, kitching release. Yeah, just like

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<v Speaker 1>bass carp stuff like that. But I've been with with

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Hendrick on his his fishing boat and we actually

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<v Speaker 1>did a Trea. You didn't want to play, Yeah, those

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<v Speaker 1>arms are coming out of the head of that button

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<v Speaker 1>fish with that guy, it's it's the next level. So

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<v Speaker 1>a little little side side story. Uh, I purchased word

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<v Speaker 1>on the Lake Norman streets. I think I purchased your

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<v Speaker 1>old condom up in Lake Norman. It used to be

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<v Speaker 1>Queen's Landing across. Yes, I had that back in UM.

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually people used to think I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hold out when I told my hand Frakes and

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<v Speaker 1>I had said, if I wanted to hold out, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just go up to my lakehouse. And there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lakehouse right up there. I had a boat at the UM. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It wasn't flexed because here's why I learned

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly electricity and water equals a lot of expensive repairs.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had I had a I had a boat,

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<v Speaker 1>UM and then I had had that condo that was

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<v Speaker 1>up there that they said it was yours when you

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<v Speaker 1>first came here. Yeah, that was I first I lived

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<v Speaker 1>out near the speedway and that didn't last very long

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<v Speaker 1>and boom, I was I was up to the the lake.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's true. Huh man, I sold the change on

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<v Speaker 1>the which if our first segment is called get ice

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't even started. Yeah, we just we went straight

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<v Speaker 1>into it. But our first segment is called get ice Up.

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<v Speaker 1>Their random icebreakers developed by some many. You don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's coming up. There may be a follow up, there

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<v Speaker 1>may not be. It may be a about who's your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite me go. I have no idea, but Smithie go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and give him the first one and we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>your iced up. Are you ready? Uh no? But it

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<v Speaker 1>is a test about yourself. So if you fail, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm myself, got it all right? So automatic or stick shift? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Is paddle an option in there? Paddle is like, what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of paddle are you talking about? Well, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>that first. You know, I'm a technology guy, like I

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<v Speaker 1>love technology, and to me, these days, what's happening in

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<v Speaker 1>automobiles of I mean, you could even go electric. There's

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<v Speaker 1>there's no gears at all. Um. But but okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up racing with stick shift, so I love stick

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<v Speaker 1>But these days, you know, the fastest race cars on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane are all paddle So you know, you just

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<v Speaker 1>got the paddles on. I know someone I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>it was a paddle. I just knew it was the

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<v Speaker 1>thing on the back of the sterium wheel. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>just talk about something now, so it probably leaned more

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<v Speaker 1>towards believe it or not. Automatic. These days, these like

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<v Speaker 1>ten speed automatics are faster than than than you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just a manual stick shift. So I'm all about speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Favorite vacation spot. Oh so, I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if this is the top of my list, but but

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say that my wife playing this trip pre

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<v Speaker 1>COVID where we're going to go to someplace in in Alaska,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, man, Alaska. You know that's cold.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of snow and ice and and but

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<v Speaker 1>I love the mountains. And she didn't give me the

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<v Speaker 1>full low down on on how remote this place was.

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<v Speaker 1>So we finally technology guy, Yeah, we made we just

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<v Speaker 1>made up this trip. This place was spect accurate, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of those things where I got to

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<v Speaker 1>the airport and I was like, okay, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>what what? What's the plane? So I was in Phoenix

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<v Speaker 1>at the race, finished the broadcast, flew to Seattle, met

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<v Speaker 1>up with the kids and my wife, Ingrid, and the

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<v Speaker 1>next morning we're taken off to go to um to Anchorage, Alaska,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we get the Anchorage, Alaska. I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what's the plane here? What's going on? I like

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<v Speaker 1>to be surprised sometimes on on the my wife's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good at it. I never lose faith in her abilities

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<v Speaker 1>to uh to come up some pretty spectacular things. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of a sudden, it's it's like a blizzard outside,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, how are we gonna get there? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>where they're the only way you can get to this

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<v Speaker 1>place is either by a plane that can land on it,

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<v Speaker 1>like on the on the snow, or a helicopter. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way we can helicopter in this weather. So

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<v Speaker 1>they pick they get us out of the plane, and

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<v Speaker 1>they it gets over this hangar with a helicopter pilot.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, hey, you know I've flew in the military. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have anything to worry about. I wouldn't fly

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<v Speaker 1>if it was dangerous. We're all good. He's like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>clear five minutes from here. We just got to get

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<v Speaker 1>through the first five minutes of snow. I'm like, snow

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<v Speaker 1>in a helicopter, Like that doesn't that's that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say this guy was one of the most spectacular

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<v Speaker 1>pilots I've ever flown with, and and he was super confident.

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<v Speaker 1>We got out there and he was right. It was

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Skies five minutes away. And and we flew into

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<v Speaker 1>the Denali National Park. And I didn't, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know about Denali, heard of it and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but it never really knew a lot about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say it was just one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>spectacular places I've ever been. Just the beauty. Um you

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<v Speaker 1>know that I learned so much about, uh, the glaciers,

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<v Speaker 1>how how you know, how they melt and how the

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<v Speaker 1>snow builds up on hom of the winter. How tall

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<v Speaker 1>Denali is, you know, when the tallest mountains in in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, certainly tallest peak in North America. So I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say that on was fresh on my mind right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Prior to that, we did a trip a few summers ago.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to Indonesia. My son love uh Komodo Dragon

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<v Speaker 1>still does, and so every time, you know, we go

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<v Speaker 1>to a zoo or something, or he's watching the show

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<v Speaker 1>on TV's like Komodo Dragons, Comodo Dragons. So my wife

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, well, We're gonna take him to see Komodo

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<v Speaker 1>dragons on Komodo Island. So so we went, we went Indonesia,

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<v Speaker 1>not just not just ask bur Zoo Indonesia. Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel terrible. I'm like, I'm not trying to flex. Time

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<v Speaker 1>is a habitual flex. He flex effortlessly. Yes, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a vis I'm just living my life. Sorry, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just asking to answer the question. I said a favorite vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say my favorite vacation. I just asked the

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<v Speaker 1>man about it. So, I mean those are probably so

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<v Speaker 1>tell us about vacations I've been on. So you went

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<v Speaker 1>on the glaciers, and then you saw how they make,

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<v Speaker 1>how they make and invent dragons? What else? What else?

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<v Speaker 1>Magic dragon? We're going to see you know, next week,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see you know where rock they pulled

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<v Speaker 1>the sword out of the stone. Right when my wife says,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got this, Uh, I got this idea of going

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere on a vacation. I get, I get worried. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh boy, I gotta work. Okay, So I think I

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<v Speaker 1>know by your face. What do you get worried about

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<v Speaker 1>the location? How much it's gonna There's only one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm an adventurer. I'll go anywhere. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes a lot to make me nervous. But but

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<v Speaker 1>paying for that's my first question. How much it cost? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we can go, how much it costs. I've actually had

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<v Speaker 1>to tell myself to last two or three times, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>don't let that be the first thing that comes out

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<v Speaker 1>of your mouth. I know you're thinking it, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have to have with yourself. With my I'm talking to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm don't do it, don't do it, don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it, don't do it. So I didn't realize how

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<v Speaker 1>hard it is. It is so hard for me not

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<v Speaker 1>to immediately just go, well, that sounds expensive. Same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We just we just booked our summer trip, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking that the whole time. Now you stay in

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<v Speaker 1>domestic with all the COVID stuff, I know it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>So we actually, my wife has been trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>me so long, and so we finally committed that first.

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<v Speaker 1>She'son was trying to get me to buy a sprinter

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<v Speaker 1>van and in the RV and I said, let's rent first.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's rent let's rent this first to see So we're

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<v Speaker 1>taking a So we're taking I think it's like twelve

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen days flying to l a driving to Orange County,

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<v Speaker 1>standing for a couple of days, then driving to Lake pal,

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<v Speaker 1>then from Lake pal going to Moab or Zion, glamping,

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<v Speaker 1>glamping under the lights, under the star. So inphasis on

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<v Speaker 1>glamping because his brother right here, I don't camp. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna glamp, I'm but it's got a little like

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<v Speaker 1>the No, it's called glamping, so it's it's open tent

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<v Speaker 1>with a shower, no technology, but we can have lunch

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<v Speaker 1>and breakfast in a low So everything's under a tent,

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<v Speaker 1>no open doors. So I'm a little worried about that,

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<v Speaker 1>though I'm a little bit nervous about something walking up

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<v Speaker 1>on me right a nothing. It is worse than having

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<v Speaker 1>to go pee and something sneak up on you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the whole point of camping. You suppose that your survivalist

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<v Speaker 1>does this ninja look like you want to camp. See,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't worry about I can't camp in Jordan's about bugs.

0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't like mosquito bites and stuff like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>but the like snakes and bears that don't bother me.

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw afraid a guy said, a grizzly bear

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<v Speaker 1>cound get up to thirty miles per hour. My peak

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<v Speaker 1>was good. The man, don't add up, man, get some

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<v Speaker 1>sparking me twenty five point seven. I'm still short. The

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<v Speaker 1>first thing is don't try to outrun the bear. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a brother, that's the first instinct. Yeah, I ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>the outrun the bear. He gotta catch me. I just

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<v Speaker 1>got the outrun. But the last guy can't be with

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<v Speaker 1>your kids. Yeah, so damn shame't what Steve didn't want this?

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<v Speaker 1>You left them home? Um, and then from there we're

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<v Speaker 1>driving to So I love that. I love hearing this

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<v Speaker 1>because to me, that that's that's that's my kind of vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not my wife's kind of vacation. That's my kind

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<v Speaker 1>of vacation because every year I run an airstream and

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<v Speaker 1>I go somewhere and I just but it's just me,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just kind of do my my zen solo

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<v Speaker 1>trip once a while. I just rent this. You get

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<v Speaker 1>a pass for that. I do. I do every year.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife said, you're gonna go to you can't get

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<v Speaker 1>an air stream to a campground by yourself. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, she's like hmm, She's like, gives me that look,

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<v Speaker 1>give me inspiration. Jeff I'm gonna try this. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just did that trip a few weeks ago and I

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<v Speaker 1>went to Santa Barbara, So I highly recommend I go

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<v Speaker 1>to some places like that with that, with that spiring. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna drive up and down the coach. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>going l A and finishing Utah. Hey man, we got

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<v Speaker 1>some of the most beautiful landscape national parks in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So you and it sounds like you're going to hit

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<v Speaker 1>a couple. Yeah, we're gonna say that. That's the whole

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<v Speaker 1>point of of seeing seeing some stuff we like to

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<v Speaker 1>travel around with before the pandemic, we all we had

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<v Speaker 1>a two week vacation for Israel, but that got canceled,

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<v Speaker 1>and sure it took me. Just imagine what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen when when things finally get back to real normal. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's gonna be a real normal. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's a new normal. We have to take a

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<v Speaker 1>break and the morning thing, we gotta pay some bills.

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<v Speaker 1>You got checks. I love cut to It, and I

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<v Speaker 1>us wherever you listen to podcast. I got all my

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<v Speaker 1>answers questions. Um, yeah, I got all my questions answered.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm here for, a brother, cut to a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast dot com. I always like to grill, like at

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<v Speaker 1>the racetrack, grill like grill out, steaks, chicken, just basic stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You put fish on the grill. I'll put like salmon

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<v Speaker 1>on the plank. That's the right way to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna do it, I know what. I know

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<v Speaker 1>what Steve's gonna go. Don't let him go. Don't let

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<v Speaker 1>him take you down. His bad. He doesn't believe that

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<v Speaker 1>fishould go on the grill. Well, I agree. I do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pan searing stuff. I like. I like

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<v Speaker 1>that a little no no pants on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the But that's what I was going to say

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<v Speaker 1>is that the cooking through covid has been holding next

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<v Speaker 1>level because it's like get on Instagram and you find

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the chefs that were doing stuff like doing

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<v Speaker 1>cooking lessons on Instagram. You're doing you know, all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of you created dishes and yeah, you just falls I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I can. I'm good at fallowing direction the gas exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So like my wife loves steak up, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>we we did that one night. But the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>is that like a ribby or no, what that be.

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<v Speaker 1>The other one you're gonna laugh at is d Jyne,

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<v Speaker 1>who way, don't just kind of hold up. Wait now

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<v Speaker 1>I know that Nelly rapped about you, and ea, I

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 1>know jay Z wrapped about you. So now we got

0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 1>DJ jazz Jams. That name was already it's already taking

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not qualified to have a DJ name that DJ.

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<v Speaker 1>But um So I went to a Bisa or a

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<v Speaker 1>the a few years ago, several years ago and had

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<v Speaker 1>had had a good vacation there, went to Burning Man,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just mind blowing experience. And ever since those

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<v Speaker 1>two experiences, I've just you know, like I was like

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<v Speaker 1>partying and having fun you know, with my wife with friends,

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<v Speaker 1>but all the club music that don't don't don't was

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<v Speaker 1>never my thing until I went to these two places.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm like, okay, it's funny even people that

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<v Speaker 1>know me for years, like they're like, damn, Jeff, I've

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<v Speaker 1>known you for a long time. You surprised the hell

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<v Speaker 1>every time. And I've always loved music, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of music from growing up as a kid

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<v Speaker 1>in California. My sister hadn't influence on me four years

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<v Speaker 1>older than me, and so it was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Jones and the Beatles and stuff like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I was like, okay, that's not necessarily me and

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<v Speaker 1>then okay, okay, I was like, how didn't usual? No? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like right, and so him like okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>then then I got into more like, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pop and in some rock and roll and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a C d C. And then I started breakdancing and

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<v Speaker 1>getting into you were no, did you have a jacket?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have a jacket? Oh yeah, I was baby Smurf.

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<v Speaker 1>That was that I had the jacket. Baby. I was

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<v Speaker 1>in a group. He was he was a cruel So

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<v Speaker 1>he was like doing. He was on the ground, like

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<v Speaker 1>doing all. I just did stuff on the ground. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you got it. You were like electric boogaloo. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do any popping. It was just he stayed

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<v Speaker 1>within his his genetics, Jeff break break dancing, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you do a little smurf are you? Are you DJ Smurf? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I try, but that's what backstage things. So my music

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<v Speaker 1>like has gone all over the place. And and so

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<v Speaker 1>right now what I'm what I'm like, and what's been

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<v Speaker 1>fast about this whole um conversation, But this whole journey

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<v Speaker 1>is I didn't know. I always is fascinating in the

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<v Speaker 1>club watching the DJM, like that's cool, that's cool. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I could do that. Yeah, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about a race car driver with a

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<v Speaker 1>helmet on inside a race car that's loud. But I

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>still wanted to be on the stage. You know. I

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 1>like to entertain, but I didn't. I couldn't play an instrument.

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't sing or you want to party? Yeah, I

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>like that. I like entertaining people, and so so um,

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>what's been fascinating through this is learning how all this

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>DJ equipment equipment and the software and the computer and

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff plays a role, and you know, and

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 1>how it sinks the music and and and you know,

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 1>then you've got all these different platforms SoundCloud title of

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>where you're getting all your music from and and so yeah,

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's I mean, should to build your library up. God,

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 1>it takes so much of your effort and time. So

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I have a whole new appreciation. And I've got a

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:13.400
<v Speaker 1>few friends there DJs I know, Dip Blow and Change,

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Smokers and some of these guys. So I just met

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 1>him over the years, and so we're gonna I expect

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 1>to see Jeff Gordon now like DJ Coachella, is that

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 1>next not entertained? I got good, but I'm not gonna

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like I'm not gonna be fancy, like the

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>verse of DJs are always the best ones. Well, you

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>can take me from genre to genre. Definitely, dude, I

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of different music. But anyway, so it's

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>it's super cool. Brother in laws getting married. I'm gonna

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 1>reach out to my wife was here, She'd say, yeah,

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>he's gone a little crazy with this DJ stuff like

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I have in my garage. I was actually moving before

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I came over here. I've got I've got to eighteens

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and two fifteen. Its first, what kind of amp you

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>running with it? So these are all powered subs, so

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't need you don't need the amp because I'm like,

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not all into to that. I just

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>want plug and play. But I've got this this den

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>and um DJ controller that It's like, what the hell

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 1>am I doing with this thing? I mean, I could

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>play four different things at one time and it's lit up.

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, I'm like that guy that shows up

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the golf course with the set of brand new pings,

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 1>like he looks like he knows what he's doing. But

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 1>but and then to wait until I hit the ball.

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea where it's gonna go. We're gonna

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>have a DJ bad You and Chet because DJ's now too,

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>so we got this cross over. Well well yeah, and

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>then what I've learned about all that, right is is

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, you go hire somebody to help you kind

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 1>of produce your your your show. So I'm not that

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>another level. We're gonna we're gonna get Jeff Gooden new

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>DJ Jeff alright, last one. I just got schooled. Man.

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>This is damn. I we weren't prepared for this. Was like, yeah,

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>when in the research stop it, you're a little smurf

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Frien sur when he on the ones in two it's rocky,

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>do get it? Twisted, no cats, Hey, your head out

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>on his airstream, But we go fishing playing dj D S.

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm so screwed. I like it though, I like it. Yeah,

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>all right, So last one, uh, you know, being from California,

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>which I knew, UM, and we do it as well,

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Um a fellow California, California rolling stop or a full

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>complete stop? Does anybody come to complete stop these days? Uh?

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm yeah, I'm I'm probably. I like to follow the rules,

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm muna say I follow the rules. But yeah, no,

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't think my tires have ever just come to

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>full stuff. The rule we say in our family in

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the neighborhoods no cop, no stop. Yeah, that's what I

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, is if I see something out of

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>the corner of my eye that I need to stop

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>full absolutely, Yeah, all right, let's go. Let listen. That

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>that was the best ice thing we had. We always

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>get something interesting that I guess, but that that's about

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 1>far the most interesting. Probably I probably this is you

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>know what I learned the TV is you don't want

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>to empty the bucket too early. I think I just

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>said no, but we appreciate you it on our platform

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>all right, So where are you from in a place

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>you call your hometown? So man, I'm like, I'm like somebody,

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 1>it's all from all over the place, right, Because my

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>birthplace Valeo, California, that I lived and tell us about

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>fourteen took me then racing two Indiana to a place

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 1>called Pittsburgh, Indiana. So for the longest time I always

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>called Pittsburgh my my hometown. Um, but but then moved

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>to North Carolina. So I'm I'm in Charlotte, you know. Now,

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>that's where I spent most of my time. And my

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 1>my business is obviously racing in NASCAR, and and whether

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>it be working for Fox Sports or Hendrick Motorsports. I've

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>got a couple of dealerships in North Carolina. So this

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>is where my kids are in school here. So this

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Charlotte is my my home. But we would love to travel,

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned earlier, so I don't I don't know

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>if we can be locked down any one place for

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 1>too long. I challenge people all the time, you know,

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>even my wife. You know, my wife's from Belgium and

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>we met in New York. I brought her to Charlotte

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, you know, I'm used to New York.

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>She's a little spic so so. But you know, I

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>challenge anybody of find a better place to bring up

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>your kids. Um, you know, better place to the There's

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>lots of opportunities here, whether you know, if you look

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>at it and you've got the seasons, but nice weather.

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>My my family all followed me here. My my mom,

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>my stepdad, my sister, my stepbrother all came here because

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>they loved None of them wanted to go to Indiana,

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>but they all came here. That's cool, it's a it's

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>a it's a great place not to age you. But

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>growing up in Vallejo, growing up Indiana, you know, growing

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>up in those places. How did this shape your view

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>on the world as you see it today? Yeah, probably

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>growing up in Valeo more than anything else, right, I

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 1>mean very diverse school, um public school. Didn't go to

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>private school. Um, you know, from getting in fights at

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 1>school to um the type of education you know that

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I got probably more life less in education than than

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:59.239
<v Speaker 1>anything else. I didn't think my my education I got

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>at school was very good, like it just I wasn't

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that interested. I was more of an average student anyway,

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>because I wanted to race my parents introduced me to

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>racing very young at five. So school was like I

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>just think something I felt like I needed to do.

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>But you know, the kids that I interacted with, UM

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>taught me a lot, you know about about life. Just

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>just things happened fast. Man, just being introduced and seeing

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>things that that I didn't see anywhere else. Um, kids

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>bringing guns and knives to school in in in you know, uh,

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:40.760
<v Speaker 1>seventh and eighth grade. Um. You know, just clothing, music,

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, just different cultures, different um you know, um,

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, lifestyles, just a little bit of everything. And

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 1>it was very you know, you know, Invaleto, it's a

0:34:54.360 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>big Filipino population, Mexican population, African American population, white population,

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 1>and just kind of all congregating in one place. And

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I went from that to go in to Indiana and

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>it was people with tractors and not on farms and

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, milk and cows and things like that. Um,

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and I just wanted to race, so but but I

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 1>always fell back when I came to Indiana and I'm

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, talking to the kids, they're like, man, you're

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.800
<v Speaker 1>from Mars. Where are you from? Like where did you

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 1>learn all these things? And men, you grow up fast,

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, in in a place in California, didn't I

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:36.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't grow up in a in a fluent, you know,

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 1>wealthy family. My parents worked hard, but but they you know,

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>they got me into racing too. So it wasn't like

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>we're poor or anything. But um, you know, I got

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I got to see them have to work, you know,

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>as hard as they did to have the things that

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>that that we had and and and what that created

0:35:56.560 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>also in uh, in racing. For me, that's interesting now

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>that you say that, how does that with everything you

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>experience at such a young age growing up, how does

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that play into your parenting here in Charlotte, Because Charlotte

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>is Charlotte has this places, but it's not the way

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about. In the eighties and nineties, California was

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 1>just a different place, right. You have Reginald Denny Rodney King.

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh you up in northern California a little bit where

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you have the Black Panther movement as well. Uh. The

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:48.320
<v Speaker 1>influence of that Oakland, California, San Francisco, all of that

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 1>in the eighties and nineties was the It was a

0:36:52.560 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>hotbed for whether it was racial injustice, equality of justice.

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>You have gay rights as epidemic. H m hm um,

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 1>poor folks, people getting beat by the police, a myriad issue.

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>And then you got l A the l A riots

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>down you know, five hours down the street, which I experienced,

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and going through all of that and seeing that and

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 1>witnessing that, and now you're a dad, and you know

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 1>what you were taught and learned in the seventh grade,

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>what you experienced, it has to at least play. I'll

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>just said that. I want to say it is I

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 1>find myself at times parenting out of fear because I

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 1>know what I experienced. And how does that? How does that?

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever think about that? Or do you look

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 1>at yourself and say, man, and my parenting for the

0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:00.080
<v Speaker 1>best way on my parenting out of fear because I

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 1>know what I experienced and what I didn't need to

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:07.320
<v Speaker 1>know at twelve years old that I know my kids

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 1>just can't handle it or or I just desire for

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 1>them not to be exposed to it at such a

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>young age. Yeah, I mean, gosh, this is this. We

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 1>could do a podcast or just this subject alone, right,

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 1>because you know, parenting, I think it's the toughest job

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 1>there is on the plans, and and I thought my

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>parents did of course, it's like I told you, my

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 1>mom my stepdad. I thought they did an amazing job.

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 1>But I think most of what they did was kind

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 1>of out of necessity of that's how our lives just worked.

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 1>And and you know, I think now I won't let

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 1>my kids leave my driveway. When I was living in Valeo,

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd get on my bike and I'd go ten miles,

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, and you're just going for the afternoon. Just

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 1>be home before the streetlights Colt. That was it and uh.

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>And it was seldom when I got home before the

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>street Maybe that was just our room, but you had

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 1>to be back home if if I yelled Steve on

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>one mode, damn time right. That just made me think

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 1>of one story I was probably I think I was

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:28.799
<v Speaker 1>six or seventh grade, six or seventh grade still remember well,

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody has got a whooping. I should have got whooped. Um.

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>But but I was. I was always pushing the limits

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>right of being home by dinner time or light you

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 1>know when when when when um it got dark? Lights

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>come on? Uh. And so I was across the neighborhood

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>like a mile or two, and I was like, Okay,

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go to my other buddy's house that's just

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.879
<v Speaker 1>around the corner, and then that way. I'm close to home,

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:56.720
<v Speaker 1>so I only have a five minute you know spring.

0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I was either a bike or skateboard. That was that

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 1>how I got around, and always on wheels, man, and

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:08.319
<v Speaker 1>these wheels unlike those wheels you gotta wheels didn't take

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 1>me far. But but so this guy he had they

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>had a pool in the back of their house. That

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:18.359
<v Speaker 1>was a big deal, right, absolutely pool. And so I'm

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>at his house and I'm watching the clock, and right

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 1>as I was getting ready to leave, I stepped off

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 1>into the pool. Actually, like we were messed around the

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:33.240
<v Speaker 1>backyard and I run around. Oh, I wouldn't even supposed

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 1>to be at his house? How are you going to

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 1>explain this? And then now I'm I'm soaking wet from

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the waist end. So I I did one of those

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 1>walk in the front door. Hey, They're like, whoaa, come

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 1>in here? And my it was literally like they're like,

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 1>what happened. I'm like, I don't remember what. I'm like,

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 1>stepped in a puddle or something. You know, they hadn't

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 1>rained in Damn, My month came out better just saying

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 1>that urinated almost well, I don't mean this to make

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>this a bad joke. But what kind of puddle. I

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know, you're not tall, but you ain't They even

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>sent me to tall. I don't think they knew that

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I hold steps in the puddles. He's went from the

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>waist down. I stepped in the puddle. Hey, I didn't

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 1>say it was the sharpest night. But anyway, I don't

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>know what made me think about that. But going back

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>to the parenting, you know my parents, I don't. And

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I asked him this every once in a while, and

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've gotten a straight answer. But

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I worry so much about my kids now, right of

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>thinking all the things that I did, thinking about the

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:51.439
<v Speaker 1>things that are happening in the world, and I want,

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I want them to experience all these things. But I

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>just have such a hard time letting go. And and

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't, you know, I don't know if it's who

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:02.879
<v Speaker 1>I've become them through racing, but I definitely I want

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 1>to control them more than I should. And and that's

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>when I when I'm you know, battling with my own demons,

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.359
<v Speaker 1>and and you know, me and my wife are trying

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:13.800
<v Speaker 1>to talk about parenting. It's how you know, how you

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 1>let go. My daughter's thirteen now, so I have no

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>choice but to let go. She's she's like on her

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 1>own path and care about what I did, who I am.

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>She barely cares that I'm her dad right now some days.

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.759
<v Speaker 1>But but we we gotta. We got a cool relationship too,

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.359
<v Speaker 1>so I want to keep and maintain that. So it's tough,

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 1>but I do want to, you know, bring up on

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 1>one thing. You know, when I lived in Valo and

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I left Valleo and I moved to Indiana, and then

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, if racism or something would get brought up,

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what, I don't see people

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:48.720
<v Speaker 1>for for the color of their skin. I I judge

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 1>each person individually, and and you know, I want to

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to know who they are. I don't care

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:57.399
<v Speaker 1>about anything else that's influencing that. But as I've gotten holder,

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I realized that I actually want to see person for

0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:03.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, who they are, the color of their skin.

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Head has a story about who they are, and and

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's that's been I think more of a

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 1>change of since I've become a parent, and how I

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 1>want to teach, you know, those things to my kids

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>about that you know, it's not just you know the

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 1>way a person looks, it's you've got to go deeper

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and find out, you know, really why they're who they are,

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:31.919
<v Speaker 1>good or bad, because because you know, we've all we've

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 1>all had some major influence, whether it be our parents,

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 1>life's experiences, um that that like you were mentioning to me,

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what what I mean. I you know, I

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:46.439
<v Speaker 1>got in a fight in school one day, and I'll

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 1>never forget that. I'll never forget that moment. I'll tell

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>you a quick story on this one. So me and

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 1>this kid we didn't get along and and I can't remember.

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 1>He was calling me out on something in one of

0:43:56.680 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 1>our classes and and I was like, man, I'm you

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 1>after school and he's like, all right. So now I

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:07.360
<v Speaker 1>usually wouldn't mess with somebody that I didn't think that

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I had a shot at right. So he was a

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>little taller me, but I was like and I wasn't

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 1>a big kid, so it wasn't like I was messing.

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 1>But I was like, I'm like, all right, I think

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I got and I was a pretty good like grappler

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 1>wrestler type, like I get him on the ground that

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 1>but I never punched anybody. So so that's that's been

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>That's that's kind of needed. Yeah, maybe the chest or

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:38.920
<v Speaker 1>something like that, but never like wham. And so so

0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I get after school, he meets up with me, and man,

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I take him down and I'm on top of him.

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, what am I going to do? And

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, like lights, you know, and and

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 1>and cops come by and I'm like whom We all

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:56.960
<v Speaker 1>scattered and and so the next day show up at

0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 1>school and he walks up to me and he's like,

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 1>he's like, hey, man, where'd you run off to? Oh no,

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 1>he sucker punch you ain't. That's that's that that's the

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>that's the lesson I should I should I should have

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 1>known that was coming. Yes, absolutely, the police stopped it.

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 1>The police stopped it. You said a fight, not a

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 1>wrestling match. That's right now. You're right. You don't want

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 1>to three game over right now. Here's so I learned

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 1>to less Where he hit you in the face. Oh yeah,

0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have a black eye, but I definitely am

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.759
<v Speaker 1>say whoa? And he knocked me back, and as I

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>came for him, then everybody pulled us apart and we

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 1>both got suspended. He saved you. No, no, oh, I wasn't.

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:43.839
<v Speaker 1>I had this guy. I meany times, you're gonna take

0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 1>him down. But but he he was smarter than me, though, Jeff, Joe,

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 1>hold on, you can't get hit and can't win a

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 1>smart photo. You can't hit him in the face and

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 1>then take him down and put him in a peaky grappler, right, say, uncle,

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 1>say uncle, Jeff, Alright, you can't just put someone in

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:07.799
<v Speaker 1>the curt ankle an it's gonna be at that point,

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I was ready to hit them, Okay, so I did

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:18.879
<v Speaker 1>the police. Jim got street crab man. So my point

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:21.319
<v Speaker 1>is that you know I learned that day man. Never

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>let your guard down. Never never, never think you're in

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a safe place environment and you know, unless you know

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 1>what the other person is thinking, and you never can

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 1>know what There's what I love what you said that

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes a lot of us right now and

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:39.320
<v Speaker 1>this time we try to skirt over and try to

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 1>avoid the word you use with the j judge. You

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 1>know you said you judge people for who they are.

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>A lot of times we don't want to say, well,

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:51.760
<v Speaker 1>we're judging people we are. We judge everything. We we judge,

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:56.040
<v Speaker 1>is that flavor good or not. I love what you

0:46:56.160 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 1>said because I think that is important. It's nothing wrong

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 1>with judging someone, it's when you start to judge them

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and put them down or on a preconceived notion. Like

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 1>what I love that Jeff said is that I went

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>from saying I don't see color, just saying I see

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 1>color because that's who God made your. God God made

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you with your with your color. So being able to

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:21.480
<v Speaker 1>see ray says I see that person for who they are,

0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 1>completely who they are, and that one is a testament

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 1>to growth and to it is a testament to everything.

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 1>That Steve saying is that yeah, you you you build

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 1>an opinion off someone, but based off of their whole self,

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:38.319
<v Speaker 1>and you allow that individual to represent themselves whether it's

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 1>good or bad. Because there are times we represent ourselves

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 1>very poor depending on the day. Like I mean, there's

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 1>some days you get up on the wrong side of

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:53.440
<v Speaker 1>bed and you just are not as outgoing, You're not

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:58.320
<v Speaker 1>as nice, you feel groggy to day, or you just

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:02.800
<v Speaker 1>feel like, look, I'm being sweatpain. It's t shirt, shoes,

0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>no socks, and that that day you woke up saying, hey,

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>this is who I am, and there are some people

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:10.360
<v Speaker 1>who will see that and go, I don't want to

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 1>be next to that person or that person seems like

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:16.400
<v Speaker 1>you're feeling. Yeah, some days I don't want to be

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 1>next to myself, and that's great. I just I just

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:22.359
<v Speaker 1>thought that I wanted to point that out because there

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:27.520
<v Speaker 1>are times people just try so hard. I don't judge.

0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>We all do. We all do we whether we want

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 1>to or not. I won't to admit it. We do.

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think in the right context, judging is okay.

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Whether it's okay or not, it it's happening. And so

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:47.399
<v Speaker 1>you've you've got to get thick skin yourself and then

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and then you've got to you get I I always

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:52.360
<v Speaker 1>like to give people the benefit of the doubt, you know,

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 1>and and I like second chances, and I like, you know,

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:58.760
<v Speaker 1>to to try to be more thorough in my judging.

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Like if I only had a quick interaction with somebody,

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I didn't like the interaction, I'll go, well,

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what it was to your point, Like was

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:11.399
<v Speaker 1>it something that happened to them in their life that day?

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Whatever you say, Okay, I'm not gonna let that you

0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:18.600
<v Speaker 1>get to me. Now if I get to know that person,

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and I realized that person is a real jackass, and

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and every interaction I've had, I'm gonna judge him as

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:30.120
<v Speaker 1>a jackass. I think it's about that time, just so

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll take a little breathering, good, good, good, getting down

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 1>to do it good. Hey Gerard, why did you get

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:42.239
<v Speaker 1>that T shirt? You mean this thing? Oh yes, I

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:44.399
<v Speaker 1>got it from cut to a podcast dot com where

0:49:44.440 --> 0:49:47.400
<v Speaker 1>we have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to our guys at

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:49.000
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0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:51.759
<v Speaker 1>buy you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:56.560
<v Speaker 1>listen to podcasts. You talked about you getting into racing

0:49:56.960 --> 0:50:00.880
<v Speaker 1>at such a young age, at six years old. I

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>don't even remember what I was doing a six year old,

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:07.919
<v Speaker 1>But you know, the closest thing I had to any

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:11.919
<v Speaker 1>vehicle was I had a Duke's a hazard set, which

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:14.400
<v Speaker 1>was the big wheel, and then the card that was

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 1>a pedal. I was not thinking about six years old,

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:26.479
<v Speaker 1>clutch reverse neutral. There was no clutch on the big wheel, wasn't. Yeah,

0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:29.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean I I think I think my dad brought

0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 1>home a race car before I ever brought home a

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:34.440
<v Speaker 1>big wheel. I mean, it's just I did race bicycles.

0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:38.200
<v Speaker 1>We had a BMX bicycle track up the street. Uh

0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:42.640
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was a cool track. It was like

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:46.440
<v Speaker 1>like you had you had the baseball little league fields,

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and then not too far away from that you had

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:53.400
<v Speaker 1>a drive in movie theater and and then on the

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 1>corner was this this BMX bicycle track. And that's just

0:50:56.560 --> 0:50:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the kids in my neighborhood, that's that's what they did.

0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:01.719
<v Speaker 1>And so I was again little kid. I was the

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 1>youngest kid. I was always hanging out with older kids,

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:07.400
<v Speaker 1>and my sister was older, so I hung out hang

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:09.800
<v Speaker 1>out with her friends too, And so I learned to

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 1>ride a bike really young, but racing the whole different thing.

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 1>In kindergarten I learned. I learned how to ride a

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 1>bike in kindergarten on a beach cruiser. See that that's

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:30.720
<v Speaker 1>l a right. There never one beach cruiser that definitely

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:36.360
<v Speaker 1>weren't a beach cruisers in Valeto here. But there were

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:39.080
<v Speaker 1>some low rider bikes. So there's some of those cool bikes.

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:42.480
<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, so I was so I my my

0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 1>stepdad this, Yeah, you have to understand him to understand

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:49.799
<v Speaker 1>my whole story, because one he met my mom very young,

0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:52.400
<v Speaker 1>my mom and my dad, uh split up when I

0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:55.680
<v Speaker 1>was just a baby, and then she met through work,

0:51:56.120 --> 0:51:57.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, my stepdad, and then they got married. So

0:51:57.880 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I was I don't know, maybe one or something like

0:51:59.840 --> 0:52:02.400
<v Speaker 1>that at the time they got married, and he just

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 1>took to his step kids of man, I want to

0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to give them, you know, opportunities and present

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:13.240
<v Speaker 1>some things to them. And so I don't know, somehow

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:15.719
<v Speaker 1>he saw right away I had good hand eye coordination,

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and boom, by the time I'm three, I'm riding a bicycle.

0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 1>And by the time I'm four, I was racing bicycles

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.600
<v Speaker 1>at you know, at this track. And I mean I

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:29.920
<v Speaker 1>was okay, you know, because I because you were four, right,

0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 1>how does how does it? Four year okay? But there

0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 1>weren't a whole lot of four year olds, that's my boy,

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:41.960
<v Speaker 1>you So you were pretty good without even being there.

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:44.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean that I'm not trying to knock you, but

0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:48.439
<v Speaker 1>there's a high problem. You still had at least pull

0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:53.719
<v Speaker 1>up on that night ridings in day. But I was okay.

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Just the fact that you were riding about four years old,

0:52:57.120 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you were probably okay going to get six year olds. Well,

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how old out the kids were, but

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean I was holding my own. And then there

0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 1>was one kid. I remember anytime he showed up, it's like,

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:09.839
<v Speaker 1>oh man, and so so you'd hope he'd go down

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:13.080
<v Speaker 1>or something in the first turn. But there was There

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:15.360
<v Speaker 1>was a couple of recks of some other kids, and

0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I got into a small one and my mom was

0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:20.960
<v Speaker 1>telling my My dad's like, she's like, I don't know

0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:24.000
<v Speaker 1>about this. You know, I see him getting hurt. And

0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:28.600
<v Speaker 1>so he had some friends that race cars. So you know,

0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 1>six months later, the next thing I know, he's bringing

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:38.080
<v Speaker 1>home this this little car. So my little Jeffy, he's

0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:41.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna get hurt Baden bikes. So let's go get this.

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:45.879
<v Speaker 1>Let's go get this because he ain't gonna get hurt

0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:48.840
<v Speaker 1>going faster in this car. This is how good of

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:51.440
<v Speaker 1>a salesman my state that is because he convinced my

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 1>mom he's like, no, no, he's got a helmet, seat belt.

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<v Speaker 1>He does kind of sound like an upgrade when you

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 1>think about it. He made her believe that, so up

0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:00.800
<v Speaker 1>to the mom it does kind of sound Gona. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a non African American conversation because I ain't no ninja,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, cannot stop from BMX to car. There

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<v Speaker 1>were still some there's six people in neighborhoods who couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>drive four year old driving a car. I like at

0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:27.520
<v Speaker 1>grandma whose sixty still ain't got My grandmother her first

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:30.840
<v Speaker 1>car she got when she was I would say fifty.

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Grandmother she got it because unfortunately my aunt got inhering

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<v Speaker 1>some money and so she bought my grandmother. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a Dodge Colt. It was four I remember four Dodge Colton.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we was in there. Uh we were still driving

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:52.799
<v Speaker 1>that cold when I was in high school. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>another story. So the fact that you go from more

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<v Speaker 1>efty to a bike to a car again you still

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<v Speaker 1>probably and pull ups that night and it dries behind

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<v Speaker 1>the wheel, behind the wheel. As long as I got

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<v Speaker 1>four wheels as a car, I don't care what Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now this it was crazy. Man's still a car. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean now, I'll be honest. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>know people, but I don't know back there what you

0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:35.640
<v Speaker 1>are doing for the we can help hield driving driving

0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:39.080
<v Speaker 1>what a car? Hey? You would there's a track out

0:55:39.120 --> 0:55:42.440
<v Speaker 1>in Connapolis. Uh, you would not believe the number of

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:46.320
<v Speaker 1>kids out there racing. So that that does lead. So

0:55:46.480 --> 0:55:49.040
<v Speaker 1>that that like it opened up my eyes to this,

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<v Speaker 1>like you think of of of your Pop Warner or

0:55:52.960 --> 0:55:59.800
<v Speaker 1>literally whatever whatever you were being not I mean, yeah, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe be a little bit and I was probably a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit on the young side for most of you.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna tell you what, right now, you go

0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:08.160
<v Speaker 1>out there, there are six and seven year old kids,

0:56:08.440 --> 0:56:10.759
<v Speaker 1>and there's some four year olds out there that can't race,

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:13.080
<v Speaker 1>but they'll let them drive. I'm telling you it's crazy.

0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:18.160
<v Speaker 1>They can't. They'll let him practice. They'll let him practice

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:20.520
<v Speaker 1>until they get to five. You gotta be five. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you kind of walked into the question right

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<v Speaker 1>into it. I know the pathway. If I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>play football, I know I can play Little League or

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Pop Warner football. If I want to play basketball, I

0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:32.880
<v Speaker 1>can go to a y m c. A or or

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 1>rexent or or AU team. What is the pathway of

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<v Speaker 1>entry into NASCAR? Because it seems like we've had young

0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:44.560
<v Speaker 1>drivers on we've We've mentioned Chase Elliott or William Byron

0:56:44.600 --> 0:56:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and they've had very different entry points into NASCAR. But

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<v Speaker 1>from from your standpoint, what what is that pathway to

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<v Speaker 1>take in order to become a NASCAR driver or a

0:56:54.800 --> 0:56:58.080
<v Speaker 1>race car driver overall. Yeah, I mean somebody is going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to introduce you to it. Somebody is going

0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:04.040
<v Speaker 1>to have to um have the initial cost of it

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:07.120
<v Speaker 1>because it's not cheap, right, there are less expensive ways

0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:10.400
<v Speaker 1>to just get introduced to it, um and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the less expensive ways like well, I mean,

0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, you you could have somebody that says, hey,

0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I got a car here, you want to you know,

0:57:19.000 --> 0:57:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you want to drive it? I mean no, it could

0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:23.440
<v Speaker 1>be no cost, right, but somebody else who has to

0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:26.080
<v Speaker 1>give you that opportunity if you wanted to just go

0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:28.760
<v Speaker 1>out by your own stuff. You're talking about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>top notch quarter midget engine, chassis, trailer and all. I

0:57:33.680 --> 0:57:36.560
<v Speaker 1>mean you probably eight ten dollars just to get that car,

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, on the track. So it's not cheap. You

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:43.360
<v Speaker 1>have that the Sporting good Store. Yeah exactly. So, I

0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:47.320
<v Speaker 1>mean this is this is something that basketball shop. I

0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 1>would love to see more of an initiative to introduce

0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:54.600
<v Speaker 1>kids to it. You know that they can't afford it,

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 1>that maybe our interests racing, maybe they watch racing or

0:57:58.160 --> 0:58:00.720
<v Speaker 1>or whatever like cars that they like a little a

0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:03.680
<v Speaker 1>little slot car video game and say, okay, how do

0:58:03.800 --> 0:58:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I how do I go racing and have whether it

0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:08.600
<v Speaker 1>be a scholarship, whatever it may be. UM And I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's some opportunities out there for that, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>very very few. So it is it is, you know,

0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:18.440
<v Speaker 1>an a sport that I would say, compared to other sports,

0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:21.920
<v Speaker 1>is expensive to get into even at I definitely see

0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:26.840
<v Speaker 1>even from the expense standpoint, but even are their initiatives

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:30.360
<v Speaker 1>that potentially happen even to just um create just that,

0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I said that that barrier of entry to to

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:35.440
<v Speaker 1>be able to create a pipeline for people to know

0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:38.720
<v Speaker 1>if I going through particularly this program or this initiative,

0:58:39.040 --> 0:58:41.720
<v Speaker 1>that it puts me on the pathway to become to

0:58:41.880 --> 0:58:45.160
<v Speaker 1>becoming a driver. Yeah, I mean, because I think that's

0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:49.400
<v Speaker 1>great because you look at all the other sports they

0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:53.720
<v Speaker 1>have some sort of developmental they or some of them

0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:59.120
<v Speaker 1>are using ethnicity as an opportunity, like first Tea for golf,

0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:04.440
<v Speaker 1>yeah right, and um Arthur Ashe program for tennis. That's

0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:06.120
<v Speaker 1>how I was introduced to tennis when I was a

0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:09.440
<v Speaker 1>young boy, right, it was all about Arthur Ashe and

0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:13.440
<v Speaker 1>then you know Venus and Serena, you know those uh,

0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:18.280
<v Speaker 1>young women seeing people that look like them be able

0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:20.280
<v Speaker 1>to even though it wasn't as many being able to

0:59:20.320 --> 0:59:24.040
<v Speaker 1>see that. You have basketball obviously, basketball is what it is.

0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:28.600
<v Speaker 1>You have football what it is. Um you know, Soccer

0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:34.160
<v Speaker 1>and I believe racing are the last two sports where

0:59:34.840 --> 0:59:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the developmentally or easy accessibility it doesn't really exist, like

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you said, and I don't think people really know how,

0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I have no idea how to get involved, like

0:59:47.600 --> 0:59:51.200
<v Speaker 1>you're telling me. Like Chase was different because he's third

0:59:51.320 --> 0:59:55.160
<v Speaker 1>generation of racing, right, he has this whole little world

0:59:55.480 --> 0:59:59.720
<v Speaker 1>out there in Georgia, right William Biden with the technology

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<v Speaker 1>right and what he the technology aspect, but then also

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<v Speaker 1>he had been racing. But you are so unique because

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<v Speaker 1>it has been ingrained from you since such a young age,

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<v Speaker 1>racing and speed and then a success we haven't had.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, I know, I know Dale and

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<v Speaker 1>what he's experienced with second and third generation, but no

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<v Speaker 1>one ever it's getting more and more rare. Yeah that

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<v Speaker 1>that h And by the way, in Valleto, California, there

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<v Speaker 1>was nobody racing. I was the only kid in that

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<v Speaker 1>that was racing. NASCAR really hadn't made it out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to understand this goes way beyond. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even know what NASCAR was back then. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what NASCAR was until I was in my teens.

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<v Speaker 1>But but there's there's dirt track racing, sprint cars. Um

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's indy car I knew with me too, but

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know what NASCAR was till I was older.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, when you grow up in the open

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<v Speaker 1>wheel because of quartermages I'm talking about, that's what they're called,

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<v Speaker 1>and and go carts, that really leads more to the

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<v Speaker 1>path of open wheel racing and not necessarily stock cars.

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<v Speaker 1>Stock cars didn't really become big out in California until

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<v Speaker 1>much later that they are now. I mean we've had

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<v Speaker 1>do you think about Jimmy Johnson, myself and Kevin Harvick

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<v Speaker 1>all champions of NASCAR from California. That very very rare. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So now it's opened up more opportunities in doors. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>to try to answer your question right now, for a

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<v Speaker 1>five six seven year old kid, somebody's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>take them to the racetrack and show them these types

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<v Speaker 1>of race cars and and then figure out, Okay, how

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<v Speaker 1>could we do this? Is there is there a way?

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<v Speaker 1>But once you get older, there are some some paths

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<v Speaker 1>there that young. Um, NASCAR has some some different initiatives.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you want to be a pit crew member? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>NASCAR official and engineer? Um? You know. I think also though,

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<v Speaker 1>I think of of somebody like maybe dani Ka Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>or a Hailey Deagan right now as a female racer

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<v Speaker 1>who's who's young and up and coming, Bubba Wallace. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is some of their long term opportunities, Like

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<v Speaker 1>they're changing how people view the sport and and they

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<v Speaker 1>have a long term impact totally and so so I

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<v Speaker 1>think that I could see them playing a bigger role

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<v Speaker 1>in this. But we all got to play a role

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<v Speaker 1>in it, um And because to me, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see a NASCAR that everybody goes. Man, this is for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>This is for anybody. If you have talent and you

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<v Speaker 1>have interest, you can excel at this and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter where you came from. Well, we got to stop

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