Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: I am Joe and I am Serena.
Speaker 1: It's nice. Nice that you're back.
Speaker 2: Nice to be back. I was sad to be away
Speaker 2: last week. There was so much good stuff to talk about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I missed you last week, but I was able
Speaker 1: to handle it on my own.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you will. You were.
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's actually difficult to recap by yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's more fun when you can
Speaker 3: have like a conversation about it with someone and like
Speaker 3: bounce off another person.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad that was you.
Speaker 1: And not me. I feel like when we watched the
Speaker 1: episode together, I stole a lot of your thoughts and.
Speaker 2: Did you that's okay.
Speaker 3: I feel like that makes me hear in spirit that
Speaker 3: you were using my thoughts.
Speaker 1: Okay. So she will recap Golden Batchel. We're going to
Speaker 1: recap Bachelor in Paradise this week. Coming up, we have
Speaker 1: two interviews. We have Susan, who we love, everyone loves.
Speaker 1: People are calling her Chris Jenner. And then we have
Speaker 1: hot Sean Hot Sean, who we we do we see him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: We have hot show for the podcasts, so h stay
Speaker 1: tuned for those interviews later this week, let's get into
Speaker 1: recapping the Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 2: Let's do it. I'm ready, okay.
Speaker 1: So first first thing we see is Trista.
Speaker 3: Trista's Trista was the first ever Bachelorette and we had
Speaker 3: her on the podcast a little while back. She made
Speaker 3: an appearance on Charity Season for her I think was
Speaker 3: it her finale or her tell all?
Speaker 1: For her tell all? Maybe?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was her tell all because we were at
Speaker 2: the finale and Trista wasn't.
Speaker 1: There, and I think she told Cherie the same thing.
Speaker 1: This is her line she's been using. It's the who
Speaker 1: can't you live without?
Speaker 3: I know Trista, I think used that line for Charity
Speaker 3: and she's using it again for Gary. But honestly, when
Speaker 3: you got something good, why try to change it? Like
Speaker 3: that's a good line, And it obviously has resonated with
Speaker 3: both leads.
Speaker 1: It really resonated with Gary because he brought it up
Speaker 1: multiple times in this in this episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I feel like it's really adjusted his mindset
Speaker 3: of like looking for you know what is it?
Speaker 2: Look for the woman.
Speaker 3: Don't look for the woman you could live with, look
Speaker 3: for the woman you can't live without. I feel like
Speaker 3: that's like a head versus heart thing, like, don't look
Speaker 3: for the woman that like fits your itinerary or like
Speaker 3: what you thought your life was going to be, like
Speaker 3: look for the woman that like would break your heart
Speaker 3: if you were with her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's follow your.
Speaker 2: Heart, follow your heart. Wow, so romantic.
Speaker 1: So the first thing I noticed is Teresa grabs Trista's
Speaker 1: arm into Trista just so you know I got the
Speaker 1: first one, not one.
Speaker 2: Oh that's my note.
Speaker 3: Also right now, I wrote, Teresa can't stop talking about
Speaker 3: her connection with Gary, and I feel like, on one hand,
Speaker 3: it's endearing because she's genuinely so excited about this guy.
Speaker 3: But on the other hand, I just feel like she
Speaker 3: can't read the room unfortunately. I feel I would be
Speaker 3: upset if I was in those women's shoes and Teresa
Speaker 3: like grab Trista to be like, guess how amazing my
Speaker 3: connection is with this guy.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, girlfriend, you got to reel it in.
Speaker 1: I feel like Teresa needs constant validation, like she needs
Speaker 1: to let everyone know about her relationship with Gary, and
Speaker 1: she wants them to be like, yes, you're right, he's
Speaker 1: really into you.
Speaker 3: You're probably right because I feel like it's so easy
Speaker 3: to feel insecure in this environment, even if you're not
Speaker 3: can if you don't consider yourself an insecure person, like
Speaker 3: these women seem very confident, like it's impossible to not
Speaker 3: get in your head. And I feel like her way
Speaker 3: of coping with that insecurity of like I got the
Speaker 3: first one on one day, I had a great connection,
Speaker 3: and now he's off making connections.
Speaker 2: With other women as well.
Speaker 3: Her way of like coping with that, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: like maybe it's not me, I don't know, is like
Speaker 3: constantly telling everyone else great her connection is to like
Speaker 3: almost reassure herself how great her connection is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, yeah, I think that's correct. But we
Speaker 1: could tell it it's it's obnoxious and it's annoying the
Speaker 1: other woman.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And we can see it's going to come
Speaker 3: to a head once again in this episode.
Speaker 1: So we're going to get a group date. We do
Speaker 1: see that Leslie is going to get the one on one.
Speaker 1: She's very excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who did you think was going to get that
Speaker 2: one on one?
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be between Leslie and
Speaker 1: I thought maybe like maybe Nancy, maybe Ellen.
Speaker 3: I was like, really, or go ahead? I was really confident.
Speaker 3: I don't know why it was going to be Faith.
Speaker 3: I was like convinced. I was like, oh, it's definitely
Speaker 3: Faith sweet because she got the first impression Rose and
Speaker 3: we haven't really seen her time with Gary that much
Speaker 3: so anyway, but it wasn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't it was Leslie's turn that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder what happened there with Faith because they
Speaker 1: did she got the first impression Roles. It seemed like
Speaker 1: Gary was smitten that first night over Faith. We haven't
Speaker 1: really seen much.
Speaker 2: I think we're going to see more so in the companies.
Speaker 3: Well, in the teaser for next week, it does show
Speaker 3: what looks like a one on one date with her
Speaker 3: and Gary. Yea, So either that's going to go really
Speaker 3: well and we're going to realize their connection is really developed,
Speaker 3: or it's going to be the last date we see
Speaker 3: it with Faith. I feel like it's got to go
Speaker 3: one way or the other at this point because we're
Speaker 3: so deep into this process.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. All right, So let's hop to
Speaker 1: the pickleball game. First thing, we see Joey the Bachelor's there,
Speaker 1: you know, the nice apparents from him. These women are amped,
Speaker 1: They're ready to go this is a big this is
Speaker 1: their super Bowl.
Speaker 2: They're so excited. Ellen is so excited.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever seen anyone in this
Speaker 3: franchise this excited for a group date.
Speaker 2: Ellen is like I she wants to.
Speaker 1: Be on that cover of the pickleball magazine.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's her time to shine. And they put
Speaker 3: them in like Sherbert Colors.
Speaker 2: It's pretty fun. Look like they could have been in
Speaker 2: the Barbie movie a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean that's a that's a fun It's just a
Speaker 1: it's a fun game because everyone, everyone could play, everyone
Speaker 1: could compete. I think we see a lot of times
Speaker 1: on like The Bachelor Bachelorette, like there's like these football games,
Speaker 1: but like half the people really are like what, like
Speaker 1: I'm not into this, yeah, where pickleball is like yeah,
Speaker 1: and all these women know how to play pickleball. Gary
Speaker 1: loves pickleball. Like It's just it's much more fun because
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone could participate, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like an equal playing field.
Speaker 3: Even if it's you know, you have more experience, for least,
Speaker 3: you can probably figure it out.
Speaker 2: Or you could do it.
Speaker 3: April did and just fake a sprained ankle and hang
Speaker 3: out on the side of the carriy.
Speaker 1: That's one of the things I wrote down that was
Speaker 1: probably my favorite moment of the Pickleball In.
Speaker 3: Her interview when she I don't know what she said,
Speaker 3: she said, like my ankle's doing just fine, and like
Speaker 3: winged or something.
Speaker 2: You were hysterically laughing. It was so funny.
Speaker 1: April is so great.
Speaker 3: Her and Susan, in my opinion, are like the comedic
Speaker 3: relief of the show and have a very similar sense
Speaker 3: of humor that is just so enjoyable to watch.
Speaker 1: Where the show went wrong and I hope, I hope
Speaker 1: the execs are listening to this. Where the show went
Speaker 1: wrong with Golden Bachelor is they truly should have shown
Speaker 1: more of April, because oh yeah, the way she faked
Speaker 1: that injury and that that waked at the Carol is
Speaker 1: just just shamelessly that was an award winning right there.
Speaker 3: And then we've got the women battling it out to
Speaker 3: be on the cover of Pickleball magazine. We've got Sondra
Speaker 3: diving into the crowd.
Speaker 1: How about Sondra's seventy five years old.
Speaker 2: She looks incredible. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: She looks like they all look wonderful for their age.
Speaker 1: But Sondra like, she's seventy five.
Speaker 3: No, like if I didn't really she was seventy five.
Speaker 3: If you had asked me how old do you think
Speaker 3: Sondra was, I would have said sixty five.
Speaker 1: I would have said sixty sixty.
Speaker 2: You think she looks fifteen years younger? I mean she
Speaker 2: looks really good.
Speaker 1: The way she moves, the way she's playing pickleball, I
Speaker 1: mean she's flying around.
Speaker 2: I know, and she just she looks young.
Speaker 3: She's very like youthful energy, but like still mature.
Speaker 2: I cannot believe. I really can't believe.
Speaker 1: She said, Okay, so how do we feel about Sondra?
Speaker 1: So Sandra Gary Poles? After what the one team won, which.
Speaker 2: Was the Green it was Ellen and Kathy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which good for good on Ellen because she truly
Speaker 1: wanted to win. But the big thing was we see
Speaker 1: Gary Pulsandra and then mentions that she missed her daughter's wedding.
Speaker 1: I know, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the day, we talked
Speaker 3: about this a little bit because originally, I mean, we
Speaker 3: obviously just had our wedding and I was like, I
Speaker 3: could never imagine not having my mom at my wedding.
Speaker 3: I honestly don't know if I would be okay with
Speaker 3: her going on the show and missing my wedding. But
Speaker 3: at the same time, one we don't know what Sondra
Speaker 3: and her daughter's relationship is. But two, even if they
Speaker 3: are super close, like you put it, you some perspective
Speaker 3: on it where you were like, this is such a
Speaker 3: once in a live lifetime opportunity. And let's say she
Speaker 3: goes on the show and she finds love, like that
Speaker 3: would really be worth it. Like if it was my
Speaker 3: mom and you know, she had been single for however
Speaker 3: many years and she goes on the show and she
Speaker 3: finds like her second live.
Speaker 1: You would be a little mad if she missed your.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be mad. I would be sad. I would
Speaker 2: literally just think I want my mom.
Speaker 1: Being sad is fair? I I yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would have how I am. I would have been
Speaker 1: okay with her missing it. I'd say, you know what,
Speaker 1: you go do that, because yes, that's something that could
Speaker 1: be great for you.
Speaker 3: But I also think those two things, One you're older
Speaker 3: than I am, and two you are a boy.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like my mom was with me the whole day,
Speaker 2: you know, like it.
Speaker 1: Could be different, like like you like your your mother
Speaker 1: was a was a huge part of your wedding.
Speaker 2: Ex Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: But I commend her daughter for putting her mom's journey
Speaker 3: first ahead of her own special day. I think that
Speaker 3: is very admirable and very selfless, and I.
Speaker 2: Hope it works out.
Speaker 3: And you had to FaceTime her and see her and
Speaker 3: her new husband, which was a very sweet moment with
Speaker 3: her and Gary. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know, I just for me. The
Speaker 1: more incredible thing is that Santo seventy five years old.
Speaker 3: Joe can believe that she missed he darsway, but she can.
Speaker 3: He can not believe that she's seventy five.
Speaker 1: And then we have a conversation with Teresa and Kathy,
Speaker 1: which Kathy pulled too.
Speaker 2: Here I was trying to remember this.
Speaker 1: I think Teresa pulled Kathy.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I think you're right, And.
Speaker 1: Listen, I think Teresa's being a little over the top.
Speaker 1: I think she's she's being annoying with it. But in
Speaker 1: the same breath, it's kind of like Kathy, like you
Speaker 1: don't like you don't. I mean, it's not that big
Speaker 1: of a deal, like you don't have to get that,
Speaker 1: Like she almost like didn't even let Teresa speak this
Speaker 1: time round.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was hard because I've very much been kind
Speaker 3: of on Kathy's side. I've been able to put myself
Speaker 3: in her shoes having been the contestant on The Bachelor
Speaker 3: and been like, yeah, I would feel similarly to Kathy
Speaker 3: in the situation, especially at the Rose ceremony when you know,
Speaker 3: Teresa started talking to Kathy about her time with Gary
Speaker 3: and then started talking about her own time with Gary,
Speaker 3: and Kathy was kind of like, I literally just told you,
Speaker 3: please don't do this, like what is going on? But
Speaker 3: on the pickleball court, you can tell that Kathy kind
Speaker 3: of takes it one step too far with the way
Speaker 3: she's talking to Teresa, Like she kind of snaps, and
Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, you have a right to be frustrated
Speaker 3: and upset, but you've taken this too far now with
Speaker 3: the way you're speaking to her and how mad you
Speaker 3: are at her. And I went from feeling bad for
Speaker 3: Kathy to now feeling bad for Tree.
Speaker 1: And I feel like Kathy's almost making is she's making
Speaker 1: this out to be a bigger issue than it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at the end of the day, Like, how much
Speaker 3: is this girl talking about Gary? Like she following you
Speaker 3: around twenty four to seven, just like talking about her
Speaker 3: connection with Gary, Like it's probably a couple comments here
Speaker 3: and there, it's getting under her skin. I think Kathy
Speaker 3: maybe has a little bit of insecurity about her relationship
Speaker 3: with Gary, because you know, Teresa's got a one on
Speaker 3: one and she hasn't, which is possible. Like it's a
Speaker 3: hard environment to be in, and I just think Teresa
Speaker 3: and Kathy needs to just not hang out. They just
Speaker 3: need to stay away from each other. I don't think that,
Speaker 3: like getting this heated was the solution.
Speaker 1: All this ends up, This ends up backfiring on Kathy
Speaker 1: because then Teresa tells Gary. Gary talks to Kathy and
Speaker 1: he's just like nah, Like.
Speaker 3: Like Gary seems pissed at Kathy. He seemed like actually mad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the first time. I think this is
Speaker 1: the first time all season we've seen Gary mad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he looked like he was like I'm mad.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, he looked mad.
Speaker 1: He looked mad, and then with some about like a
Speaker 1: seventy year old man. When you see him mad, you're
Speaker 1: kind of like, all right, you're you're just like the
Speaker 1: rest of us.
Speaker 3: I've seen this situation play out on The Bachelor before.
Speaker 3: It's all looking and feeling very familiar. You know, no
Speaker 3: matter what.
Speaker 1: Age this, you're no longer the sweet guy Gary. Now
Speaker 1: we're starting to see other sides of you.
Speaker 2: I think it's good. I want to see more emotions to.
Speaker 1: Gary, of course, and then we go, let's talk to
Speaker 1: the Leslie Gary day they go on ATV's. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think they're I think I think she really likes him,
Speaker 1: which is kind of shocking because it really doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like Gary is Leslie's tight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with it.
Speaker 1: I say that we were watching it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not surprised that they have a connection. They're
Speaker 3: both nice, genuine cool people. I liked the day. I
Speaker 3: thought ATVing was really fun. I thought it was cute
Speaker 3: that Gary was like making her go first. We could like,
Speaker 3: but I didn't expect them to be this into each other.
Speaker 3: And I just didn't expect him to be her type.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I think her type is, but
Speaker 3: it seems like he's not her type based on what
Speaker 3: she's say because she's saying, like, I have a bad picker,
Speaker 3: and I've gone for bad guys in the past.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like her typees like a motorcycle biker guy.
Speaker 1: But I think Gary also rides a motorcycle or used
Speaker 1: to ride a motorcycle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Faith does, but I don't know about Gary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, And then we have and then another big
Speaker 1: thing and this is the first time we saw this
Speaker 1: so far. Allen tells Gary she's falling in love with him. Yeah.
Speaker 3: They are doing daytime cocktail parties. Now have you noticed that?
Speaker 3: For a little older I like it. Yeah, it's cute.
Speaker 3: They get tired quicker.
Speaker 1: You know, I would say they're they're They're probably like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not. We're not saying enough for a cocktail.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm jealous. I would have loved a daytime
Speaker 2: cocktail party.
Speaker 1: What did you think about Ellen saying that?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I thought it was beautiful. I mean, like you could
Speaker 3: tell it was really emotional for both of them. I
Speaker 3: can't imagine grab oh yeah, which is basically like fall
Speaker 3: in love with you too without saying it.
Speaker 2: He didn't say it back, did he.
Speaker 1: No, he didn't say it back, Okay, which I'm sure
Speaker 1: he knows that. He probably shouldn't. There's multiple women there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 3: We haven't really seen him like fully open up about
Speaker 3: that to anyone yet. But I thought she did a
Speaker 3: great job saying it. I thought it was a really
Speaker 3: sweet moment. I can't imagine how scary that would feel
Speaker 3: like after being married to someone for so long, to
Speaker 3: like hear or tell someone else you're falling in love
Speaker 3: with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because then you probably you know, you're probably internally
Speaker 1: feeling it, and then once once you say it, you're like, ah, no,
Speaker 1: now I'm there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: Our girl Nancy. She calls Gary all so, I don't
Speaker 1: think you're that into me, and he's like, you're not wrong,
Speaker 1: I'm not I know.
Speaker 2: I know that was crazy.
Speaker 3: I wasn't the way that got shown to it, like
Speaker 3: it was in like a montage situation, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, we're on Nancy.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, Nancy, we love Nancy, like her and
Speaker 2: Gary are so cute.
Speaker 3: And she's like, I think you've narrowed it down and
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm in that group. And he was like,
Speaker 3: I cannot disagree with you. That is true.
Speaker 1: And I was like looking away when it happened because
Speaker 1: like you said it was like in a montage and
Speaker 1: I hear you go, oh, Nancy, I'm like, did Nancy
Speaker 1: just go home?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she goes home and that's it.
Speaker 3: She's gone, which sucks because I really liked Nancy and
Speaker 3: I was hoping that they were gonna fall in love
Speaker 3: with each other but didn't work out. It's interesting because
Speaker 3: some seasons of the show cast members say we all
Speaker 3: knew who the leads either favorite was or like top
Speaker 3: few favorites were, and then some seasons of the show
Speaker 3: cast members like, we actually had no idea who they
Speaker 3: were that into or not. And Nancy has just given
Speaker 3: in a way that Gary definitely has selected and shown
Speaker 3: to the group his favorites, which I think we could
Speaker 3: probably guess as well as viewers.
Speaker 2: Basically Teresa, yeah.
Speaker 3: Leslie potentially faith her to tell because we really haven't
Speaker 3: seen them.
Speaker 2: But I still think they had a really good connection
Speaker 2: and Ellen.
Speaker 3: And I think they've been obvious kind of front runners
Speaker 3: for a lot of the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that's it, and then oh.
Speaker 2: Wait, we have to quickly talk about our girl Susan.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, yeah, talk about Susan.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about it more when we interview her obviously,
Speaker 3: but Gary gave her a gift.
Speaker 2: He gave her the Rose Courts, which I was.
Speaker 1: Kind of out of nowhere, the gift for Susan. I
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting that. And he said that she reminds him.
Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be like a meatball
Speaker 3: or something of his wife. Yeah, he said, rose Quartz
Speaker 3: signifies empathy and like represents empathy and strength, and he
Speaker 3: feels she embodies those qualities and those are qualities that
Speaker 3: his wife also embodied, and she reminds him of his wife,
Speaker 3: which is like if someone said that to me, I'm like, I,
Speaker 3: you're obsessed with me, You're in love with me? Like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, this is really serious, sious. But I
Speaker 3: don't think they have that strawberry romantic connection. I think
Speaker 3: it's more of like a respect and friendship if I'm
Speaker 3: being honest.
Speaker 1: Well, Susan's the only one left that asking because Askin
Speaker 1: is now down to one woman.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, April, April, Nancy.
Speaker 1: Nancy, and Kathy. I'll go home.
Speaker 2: I know Susan's the last gal stand in.
Speaker 1: I can't believe April left. Well, we'll see, uh, we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. Arah can't wait time.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: You know it's crazy is all three of them went
Speaker 3: home this episode? He wiped out asking basically in one
Speaker 3: foul swoop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Suck.
Speaker 3: No, I know, I just I didn't connect that they
Speaker 3: all went home in this episode for some reason.
Speaker 1: Well that's because Nancy didn't go home with the Rows ceremony.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, Jumping a Bachelor in Paradise batter in Paradise is
Speaker 1: now getting good.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: I feel like the first episode we were kind of
Speaker 3: like okay, second, okay, third, starting to pick up Now
Speaker 3: episode four, I'm in it.
Speaker 1: You know why. It's because all the contestants are came
Speaker 1: down this year and they're playing it super safe. They're
Speaker 1: very cautious in how they act, what they say. Everybody's
Speaker 1: being very mindful of other people. And now we're starting
Speaker 1: to see the castmates lose their shit and it's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's got to be what's happening here.
Speaker 1: So first thing we see is Sam.
Speaker 3: Sam walks down the steps from the bedroom to the beach.
Speaker 3: It is five twenty seven am. First question, Sam, why
Speaker 3: the heck are you up so early? Second question? She
Speaker 3: looks in insanely ripped, like I eat a cheeseburger and
Speaker 3: I look like I'm three months pregnant. This girl is
Speaker 3: like going on a lot of days no movement and
Speaker 3: her abs are popping. I don't know if she's still
Speaker 3: doing like a workout every single day, or like what
Speaker 3: her secret is or if it's like anti bloat pills,
Speaker 3: but like I want to know her secret.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I hope she's okay, because eleven days without going to
Speaker 1: the bathroom is a long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 1: Like, what is the record.
Speaker 2: For longest survived no bathroom situation? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that would even be something that
Speaker 3: people would disclose in order for it to be accurately recorded.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a record. I'm sure it's like Guinness
Speaker 1: Book a record somewhere.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: But she so she pulls it Aarons and she's like
Speaker 1: I and she pulls the group and she's sad and
Speaker 1: everyone seems to really like her. She seems to be
Speaker 1: very nice.
Speaker 3: I know she's definitely well liked, and I really felt
Speaker 3: bad for her. I did not think she was going
Speaker 3: to go home over this, Like I thought they were
Speaker 3: gonna be like, and you know, her situation changed and
Speaker 3: now her stomach issues are resolved and she's staying on
Speaker 3: the beach.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it sounds like it's it's funny, right,
Speaker 1: it's like a joke. It's like she can't take a
Speaker 1: shit like ha ha, But it's a medical condition, and
Speaker 1: clearly it's it's it's serious, like it's an issue. I
Speaker 1: would be if I was on day ten IULD, I
Speaker 1: would be freaking out. I'd be like, yeah, I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't stay here and try to make a connection
Speaker 1: with somebody. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, one hand, she probably is physically super uncomfortable. She
Speaker 3: probably just emotionally uncomfortable because everyone on the beach is
Speaker 3: talking about it.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: If I was in her position, I'd be like, I
Speaker 3: don't feel sexy, I feel really distracted.
Speaker 2: This is a stressful environment.
Speaker 3: Now for me, it's Mexico, so I'm not like I'm
Speaker 3: not eating my normal diet. Like I would also be
Speaker 3: like I need to go home. Like I don't blame
Speaker 3: her for her decision, Oh, I would do the same thing.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for it because, like I said, I
Speaker 1: just feel like it's I think some people watch it like, oh,
Speaker 1: can't poop poop baby Haha, funny, but realistically it's like
Speaker 1: the socks. Yeah, it's really just.
Speaker 2: And I feel bad for aaron S too.
Speaker 3: I thought Aarons might have left with her, but he's
Speaker 3: also probably like, I'm.
Speaker 2: Just gonna give her her space and her privacy.
Speaker 1: Right that though.
Speaker 3: Is it too early to leave with someone? Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean they've been together since day one. We're at the
Speaker 3: beginning of what week two when she leaves.
Speaker 2: That's pretty so now it's too early. They they haven't.
Speaker 2: They haven't been hanging out that long to where he's
Speaker 2: gonna like leave.
Speaker 1: With her because you got to figure two.
Speaker 2: Like there's still so much time one.
Speaker 1: They might not even have really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, no I don't. I don't. Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 2: too student to leave with her for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, So now we got a guy comes down. He's
Speaker 1: a nervous wreck, but all the girls are are really
Speaker 1: excited to see him. Is John Henry from Charity season
Speaker 1: and yeah, all the girls are are kind of going crazy.
Speaker 3: He's an underwater welder with Jesse says is the most
Speaker 3: dangerous profession.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel for him because he's a nervous racking,
Speaker 1: and see when he gets a day card and he's
Speaker 1: shaken when he opens it. He pulls a few women.
Speaker 1: He pulls Kat, who we could talk a lot about Kat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she seems to she seems open to it, at
Speaker 1: least from what we're seeing of potentially going on a
Speaker 1: date with John Henry watching that conversation, but I think
Speaker 1: she would still say yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have been interested because she had just.
Speaker 3: Gone on a date with Tanner, right, Yeah, So I'm
Speaker 3: curious to see if she would have gone on the
Speaker 3: date with John Henry if he had asked her or not.
Speaker 1: Kylie said she was open to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I was surprised about.
Speaker 3: But then I guess, you know, I feel like as
Speaker 3: much as we see these couples were like, oh, like
Speaker 3: they're so good, they're so locked in, Like I think
Speaker 3: her and Even are in a really good place. But
Speaker 3: I just don't think they're in the place yet where
Speaker 3: they're like work where shutting it down, we're not dating
Speaker 3: other people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess it is it is earlier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Even didn't come down right away, remember.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then we uh, and then he pulls Olivia.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: He then he takes Olivia on the date.
Speaker 3: I know, I was surprised about that, but at the
Speaker 3: same time, I feel like I've having seen Olivia talk
Speaker 3: to him. She does have like a confidence to her
Speaker 3: where I feel like he is very nervous. He had
Speaker 3: a lot of nervous energy, like compared it to you,
Speaker 3: and I like, you had such nervous energy on the
Speaker 3: first day because you were freaking out, and I feel
Speaker 3: like I was pretty like calm and was we were
Speaker 3: able to have like good conversation like through you freaking out.
Speaker 3: And I feel like that's kind of what happened with
Speaker 3: Olivia and John Henry. And she's pretty, she's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, But do you think John Henry's decision was
Speaker 1: was was influenced at all by the fact that the
Speaker 1: other two women, one was dating Evan and the other
Speaker 1: one was dating Tanner. And he looks at those guys.
Speaker 2: And thinks, I don't want to stir the pot.
Speaker 1: I don't want to stir the pot, and maybe I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm friends with Tanner, I don't really want to compete
Speaker 1: with Avan, but will in pilot Pete why not?
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe I honestly didn't think about that at all.
Speaker 3: I just thought, Oh, they have the best connection. That
Speaker 3: was that.
Speaker 1: That's what I think is going on in Paradise.
Speaker 3: You think there's a lot of people that are super
Speaker 3: afraid to step on each other's toes just across the board.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of situations that have been
Speaker 3: caused because the guys and the girls. More so, the
Speaker 3: guys are like, that's my bro, Like I'm not going
Speaker 3: for his girl.
Speaker 1: And I and I think a lot of people are
Speaker 1: just insecure and scared, scared to do it, and I
Speaker 1: just I feel like that. I feel like that's what's
Speaker 1: starting to crumble, and that's why the show is now
Speaker 1: getting more interesting.
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that theory.
Speaker 3: But I also liked that John Ray took Olivia on
Speaker 3: this date because I feel like Olivia in the beginning
Speaker 3: of Paradise, with the whole will Kylie thing, was a
Speaker 3: lot like it was like you got to bring it
Speaker 3: down a few not's girlfriend, like we just got here,
Speaker 3: this is too much.
Speaker 2: But she's now turned into like this very hilarious narrator
Speaker 2: for the show, and she's like very entertaining to watch
Speaker 2: and listen to. So watching her and John Henry on
Speaker 2: this date was great because he was so freaked out,
Speaker 2: and I feel like she was a good person to
Speaker 2: like almost balance him out to make the date fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And how about what was I gonna
Speaker 1: say about? How about Olivia and Pete haven't even kissed?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was shocking to me.
Speaker 1: So they have been, They're not that serious friends at
Speaker 1: this point.
Speaker 2: That could maybe go.
Speaker 3: I think Olivia going on the date made Peter realize,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe I actually have romantic feelings for her
Speaker 3: because I missed her a lot, or maybe.
Speaker 1: It just made Peter like, hey, now you have competition.
Speaker 1: You have to step up if you want to continuously
Speaker 1: get a rose.
Speaker 3: Maybe, or like I feel like a little competition, a
Speaker 3: little jealousy sometimes like brings out those feelings.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So then we get another drop. John b arrives
Speaker 1: and he grabs Eliza and just notice Eliza called. She goes,
Speaker 1: but she goes to talk to him. She calls Aaron babe,
Speaker 1: Yeah him babe?
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, she not.
Speaker 3: When he pulled her when she got asked on the date,
Speaker 3: he said, yeah, can I just talk to Aaron first?
Speaker 3: And she said, like, let's go talk over here. Babe
Speaker 3: or something like that. If I'm Aaron Gee, I'm like,
Speaker 3: do not.
Speaker 2: Babe me right now? Do not babe me right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't care. Like whatever. If if
Speaker 1: Eliza wants to go on to the date, fine, but
Speaker 1: it's for Eliza. It's kind of like you're saying you
Speaker 1: didn't give yourself this chance last time. But that's exactly
Speaker 1: what you did. And also the reason you went on
Speaker 1: a date with Justin was because Rodney didn't tell Your
Speaker 1: reasoning was Rodney didn't tell you not to go, and
Speaker 1: then you seem to be more into Aaron b. He
Speaker 1: tells you not to go and you still go. Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, Like I was on the edge of my seat
Speaker 3: from the moment John b pulled Eliza to the moment
Speaker 3: she left for that date. I was on the edge
Speaker 3: of my seat because for those who watched last season,
Speaker 3: you know, for those who didn't, Eliza was in a
Speaker 3: love triangle. She was dating Rodney. Justin came down wanted
Speaker 3: to take her on a date. She did the same
Speaker 3: thing where she like was like, I want to explore
Speaker 3: talk to Rodney about it, and Rodney was.
Speaker 2: Like, do what you want?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I don't like, I'll be sad, but like,
Speaker 3: I respect your decision. And she was basically like, I
Speaker 3: wanted him to tell me not to go, and if
Speaker 3: he told me don't go on this date, I would
Speaker 3: have stayed. But because he didn't fight for me, I
Speaker 3: went on the date and it created the messiest situation
Speaker 3: I've ever seen. She comes down, she's bawling on day
Speaker 3: two because Aaron B kissed Mercedes on day one and
Speaker 3: now he's talking to Eliza and she's like freaking out.
Speaker 3: She sent me a full panic attack, which we sympathized with.
Speaker 3: We were like, poor Eliza. She's in a love triangle again.
Speaker 3: Poor Eliza. She gets out of it real quick, and
Speaker 3: now she's putting herself back in another potential love triangle.
Speaker 3: I was like, what is going on? She literally came
Speaker 3: down her whole thing. I just want to meet one person.
Speaker 3: I want to focus on one person. And that changed
Speaker 3: within a matter of days and she's off on this
Speaker 3: date with John B. Like I literally am shocked.
Speaker 1: And her reasoning too, is like like I look, that's
Speaker 1: what I didn't get. It's like, yeah, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't give myself this chance last last time. It's like
Speaker 1: this is exactly what you.
Speaker 2: Did, Like yeah, like what do you mean you didn't
Speaker 2: give yourself this chance?
Speaker 3: Like this chance is what you took and you ruined
Speaker 3: your whole experience like Aaron B.
Speaker 2: And Aaron B was like, I don't want you to go,
Speaker 2: Like I hope you don't go.
Speaker 1: And she goes and she has She seems to have
Speaker 1: a good time with John B. They're making out, they're
Speaker 1: having fun.
Speaker 3: Crazy move, just shocking, like across the board for so
Speaker 3: many reasons.
Speaker 1: But whatever, Hot Sean, you know he's still trying to
Speaker 1: go for Jess. Well he's still he's still taking his chance.
Speaker 1: Right when he does that, everything falls apart for Sean because.
Speaker 2: Then wait, can we just go back for a second?
Speaker 3: Hot shod shot is shot with Jess the first day, Okay,
Speaker 3: she wasn't into it. He tried again in the true circle. No,
Speaker 3: nothing came of that, and now he's trying for his
Speaker 3: third time. I mean, you gotta respect the persisted.
Speaker 1: Well, what he needs is he needs a hard yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he needs a hard yes or a hard note
Speaker 3: because for him, it's like he's like I'm trying and
Speaker 3: she's not shutting it down.
Speaker 1: Or maybe something's there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe she just like doesn't want to hurt Blake's
Speaker 3: feelings or like yeah, So then.
Speaker 1: We see Braiden is like, Okay, well if he doesn't
Speaker 1: care about Rachel, I'm going to go I'm going to
Speaker 1: talk to Rachel. M H.
Speaker 3: And I mean, at this point, I don't think anyone
Speaker 3: really thinks that hot Sean and Rachel are endgame. I
Speaker 3: think they seem to just have like a good connection
Speaker 3: going for the time being. But like after the Truth Circle,
Speaker 3: like we saw them have a convo where they were
Speaker 3: like we're open and he was she was like you
Speaker 3: should kiss Jess, like you should explore her all that sho.
Speaker 1: We feel about how getting mad at Braiden for doing that,
Speaker 1: because essentially that's what Hotean just did the Blake with Jess.
Speaker 3: What do you mean, No, I don't think. I don't
Speaker 3: think he was mad at Braiden for going for Rachel.
Speaker 3: I think he was mad at Braiden for outing him
Speaker 3: for what he was saying about Rachel, because basically what
Speaker 3: happened was Sean was going, I guess to the guys
Speaker 3: or the group and saying, Rachel's super into me. And
Speaker 3: I just don't know how I feel about her, which
Speaker 3: I don't buy for one second based on what we've seen,
Speaker 3: and Braiden went and basically I don't know if Braiden
Speaker 3: was intentionally bringing this up. He kind of played it
Speaker 3: off like he didn't mean to, but it kind of
Speaker 3: feels like he did mean to, oh for sure, because
Speaker 3: I think he was trying to test the watter to
Speaker 3: be like, well, Seawan says, you're into him, so I
Speaker 3: don't want to, like, you know, get shut down.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I really think had.
Speaker 1: To do that, though. I think Rachel would have been
Speaker 1: open to talking to Branden regardless of what hot Shawn
Speaker 1: was saying or not.
Speaker 2: I think so too.
Speaker 3: I think if you just went over and was like, hey,
Speaker 3: Shawn's talking to Jess and I see my end, would
Speaker 3: you be open to going and having a chat, like
Speaker 3: I'd love to get to know you better. I don't
Speaker 3: think he needed to like bring that up. But at
Speaker 3: the same time, it made for a very entertaining moment
Speaker 3: between Rachel and Shawn on the beach where she kind
Speaker 3: of breams him out, which I feel like was a
Speaker 3: little bit well deserved.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we see that the truth Box another
Speaker 1: truth truth Box, Truth circle, everyone's telling the truth on
Speaker 1: the show, Aaron B.
Speaker 3: SMAs, Oh wait, can we go back to the kava
Speaker 3: with Sean and Rachel for one more second?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, So Sean.
Speaker 3: Says to Rachel he's not into Jess right after, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's lying.
Speaker 2: She hit on Jazz.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's well, he knows now he stands no chance
Speaker 1: with Jess. So what's the point of even admitting it.
Speaker 2: How do you think Jess handled the kava between her
Speaker 2: and Sean thought?
Speaker 1: I thought she handled it well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could tell she was super nervous and uncomfortable,
Speaker 3: but I think she she did a good job.
Speaker 1: She seems sweet where she doesn't and this is probably
Speaker 1: not going to work in her favor. But I think
Speaker 1: Jess has a very hard time hurting other people, of
Speaker 1: hurting other people and just kind of going after what
Speaker 1: she wants.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. She yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: I think that is that kava with her and Sean
Speaker 3: is like some foreshadowing of how her journey might go,
Speaker 3: because I feel like when you're in Paradise, the people
Speaker 3: that struggle the most are the people that are trying
Speaker 3: to appease everyone around them, like not step on their
Speaker 3: friends toes, you know, not hurt any of the guys.
Speaker 3: Whereas the people that are like, look, I'm not into
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, Like I like you, but I'm really
Speaker 3: into Blake or whatever.
Speaker 2: Like a little more direct tend to get what they
Speaker 2: want more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, so the truth box gets broken. Truth Box
Speaker 1: the Walls was very funny with it. I thought it
Speaker 1: was a little underwhelming. I think the main the biggest
Speaker 1: things we saw was Branden. You know, well the Brandon
Speaker 1: Braiden pulled. That's when Brandon pulled Rachel.
Speaker 2: I thought that was cute the way he did it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just put a bunch of truths being like
Speaker 3: Braiden and Rachel should make out.
Speaker 2: And I was like, that is a great move. That's
Speaker 2: actually very smooth.
Speaker 1: That was smart. And then we see Cat screaming in
Speaker 1: her interviews, and like half the beach hairs her and
Speaker 1: she's screaming that she's she's charismatic.
Speaker 2: She's always screaming that she's charismatic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cat cats, she.
Speaker 2: Flips it on errands.
Speaker 3: Yeah, us, she just from what we see of Kat,
Speaker 3: she struggles to regulate her negative emotions. Once they're out,
Speaker 3: they're flying everywhere and she's going off in her itms
Speaker 3: like just absolutely.
Speaker 1: Great to watch freaking out.
Speaker 3: I've become much more into the show since Kat has
Speaker 3: started freaking out in her IM.
Speaker 2: So that's all I'll say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's really uh, she's really making the show entertaining
Speaker 1: right now, Okay, and then we're we're gonna get a
Speaker 1: row ceremony. But we do see a teaser for next
Speaker 1: week where a girl does come down, which would potentially
Speaker 1: save someone like Aaron B. Hotchew. You see hot Schean
Speaker 1: praying for someone to come.
Speaker 2: Down, John B.
Speaker 3: Aaron asked, we've got a couple guys that were not
Speaker 3: one hundred percent share, not one hundred percent sure where
Speaker 3: some of the guys rose are coming down?
Speaker 2: Who do you think it is? I actually have no idea.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. But we'll see that.
Speaker 1: That wraps it. That wraps the recap. Later this week,
Speaker 1: stay tuned. We got Susan, we got hot Sewan, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna ask him about everything that went down with
Speaker 1: him and Braden him and Rachel him and Jess what
Speaker 1: you know he quit his job?
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 1: Is he unemployed? Is he working? We're gonna find all
Speaker 1: that out, Make sure you guys stay tuned. Subscribe. If
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