Speaker 1: It's am in the Saharaitan and you're listening to Night Call. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Nightcall, a podcast to keep you company
Speaker 1: during those strange days and lonely nights. My name is
Speaker 1: Emily Oshida. I am in New York City, and with
Speaker 1: me on the other end of the line in California,
Speaker 1: I have Molly Lambert and tes Lynch in Los Angeles, California,
Speaker 1: in a creepy garage. You know, there's some ghost air
Speaker 1: going on over there's some ghost are We're in a
Speaker 1: podcast garage, a classic classic Mark Marin style, a tradition. Um.
Speaker 1: But Test warned me before we went in here. She
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, everything's fine, except there's like a fencing
Speaker 1: dummy in there that might scare you. Wait, is this
Speaker 1: a different garage than you guys are Usually we're usually
Speaker 1: in a house, and this week we're in a garage.
Speaker 1: It's my garage and it's not a podcast garage, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's it's a garage that I cannot get my car
Speaker 1: into because I have a long, narrow driveway and it's scary.
Speaker 1: So it became like a repository something room. It's abby hole,
Speaker 1: a hobby hole. At some point it was determined, not
Speaker 1: by me, that it needed a dummy for fencing practice,
Speaker 1: made out of like a coat rack covered with like
Speaker 1: a super scary sheet and some batting and it's just
Speaker 1: kind of right behind us. When test set a fencing dummy,
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what that means, but
Speaker 1: I was picturing like a crash test dummy, which would
Speaker 1: also be but this is literally it's just like a
Speaker 1: human form, like a dressmaker's form, just like covered in
Speaker 1: like a mummy sheet and wrapped so it looks like somebody.
Speaker 1: It looks like a dead body, dead body standing up.
Speaker 1: What who was Peter? I mean nex fencer is an
Speaker 1: ex fencer. Wow, I didn't know that. He parried his
Speaker 1: way into her heart. And then he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna do like an art project and
Speaker 1: create and I was just like, not in my house,
Speaker 1: not in the house, get it out of the house.
Speaker 1: He was like, garage it is. It's on a Christmas
Speaker 1: tree stand. I'm going to take a picture of it. Um.
Speaker 1: But even scarier maybe than the form of the body
Speaker 1: is there's like a hand sticking up behind it. That's
Speaker 1: a glove. I didn't notice. So it looks like there's
Speaker 1: like a hand reaching out of the couch a little bit,
Speaker 1: which adds to the spookiness. This would be very spooky
Speaker 1: at night if you were alone. Yeah, that's like a
Speaker 1: kind of form that seems benign during the day, and
Speaker 1: then when it's silhouetted at night, it just looks like
Speaker 1: a person the day. It's terrifying during the day. We're
Speaker 1: in here right now, and it's a little I'm not
Speaker 1: Joanna Gain, It's okay, I didn't not design this space. Well,
Speaker 1: where's the ship lab? Where's the ship? Honestly, it would
Speaker 1: be fun now that I'm in here for the first
Speaker 1: time in a long time. It is a long story
Speaker 1: why we're in the garage. It's very spacious, though, I
Speaker 1: was gonna you know, this isn't like full of stuff.
Speaker 1: There's like it's like a room, an empty room with
Speaker 1: a body, and you're welcome. I think it might be
Speaker 1: an escape room. It's yeah, come and leave for free
Speaker 1: unless you cross me, and then we'll see and we'll
Speaker 1: see where we are. So we test garage. So we
Speaker 1: wanted to follow up real quick um with some feedback
Speaker 1: that we got from a nightcall. A couple episodes ago
Speaker 1: at this point. The call that we got about the
Speaker 1: phone call, um a call about a call, the one
Speaker 1: that had the ice cream truck music and the little
Speaker 1: voice that said hello Hello, which sounded really um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that gave us all recent a recent episode,
Speaker 1: but already a classic A nightcall, classic ice cream truck wow. Um.
Speaker 1: When I was in New York, I heard so many
Speaker 1: ice cream trucks and I thought about it every time.
Speaker 1: Did you make any calls? Molly? Did? Know? I should?
Speaker 1: That was a ripe opportunity. Didn't occur to me to
Speaker 1: call any of you and ambiently leave terrifying ice cream
Speaker 1: truck music, because but if you picked up and you'd
Speaker 1: be like, why are you calling me? Molly? Molly? Um?
Speaker 1: So yeah. A lot of our listeners told us to
Speaker 1: check out a reply All episode that was pertinent to this.
Speaker 1: This particular scam Um summarized, Yeah, so the collar on
Speaker 1: reply All had had an issue that it sounded similar.
Speaker 1: I'd be interested to hear from all our collar if
Speaker 1: her story at all overlaps with this, because the main
Speaker 1: difference for the caller and reply All is that she
Speaker 1: was getting a bunch of calls and they were on
Speaker 1: a toll free line at her office, so it wasn't
Speaker 1: a cell phone, which I believe our listener had called
Speaker 1: had gotten the call on a cell phone, because I
Speaker 1: think she I remember her saying that she had been
Speaker 1: in the car with friends when she decided to answer it.
Speaker 1: But um so this person on reply all had gotten
Speaker 1: a series of calls that she started recording, um because
Speaker 1: they were these they just sounded like they were coming
Speaker 1: from all these different places. They almost sounded like field
Speaker 1: recordings of different spots, and they play them on the
Speaker 1: show and it is kind of eerie, Like there's one,
Speaker 1: there's a series of ones that are like at a
Speaker 1: basketball game with a kid talking. There's some stuff that's
Speaker 1: like seems to be out in a field and you
Speaker 1: can hear something that sounds like a um like us
Speaker 1: an arraid siren or something going off. It's just really
Speaker 1: kind of eerie stuff that feels kind of creepy pasta
Speaker 1: ish or something like just this sort of unexplainable uh
Speaker 1: kinda I don't know, like found art type or something.
Speaker 1: Um So, she she called and was asking about it.
Speaker 1: So they investigated and um the thing that they kind
Speaker 1: of figured it was, and they like went all the
Speaker 1: way to like talking to an FBI agent who had
Speaker 1: been assigned to this case, UM is that it's a
Speaker 1: form of phone fraud. But that only applies, I think
Speaker 1: with the UM the toll free number, because like these
Speaker 1: people will put all these calls into these UM like
Speaker 1: just kind of create a bot essentially that that sends
Speaker 1: all these calls to these toll free lines and then
Speaker 1: gets UM like has at one point along the chain
Speaker 1: of towers and carriers. They get a kick back for
Speaker 1: that call being sent through. So the longer you can
Speaker 1: keep the person on the line, which was the reason
Speaker 1: for like the weird recording, and have a longer call,
Speaker 1: even if it means just like making it a minute
Speaker 1: as opposed to thirty seconds. That all adds up to being,
Speaker 1: you know, quite a bit of money potentially. I want
Speaker 1: to know how much money that really is exactly? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they were they enough for the FBI to
Speaker 1: get involved, because I think the phone fraud is fairly common,
Speaker 1: but it's not something that's reported a lot because it's
Speaker 1: kind of opaque and boring. But I think a lot
Speaker 1: of UM like there's stuff where UM podcasts the phone
Speaker 1: fraud scam. They keep you on the line as long
Speaker 1: as like three hour podcasts. Yes, Um, I I think, well,
Speaker 1: there are some cases of um of people doing uh
Speaker 1: doing a phone fraud to fund terrorism because you can
Speaker 1: just like do all these junk calls, but if you
Speaker 1: get a kick back from the carrier, then it can
Speaker 1: like totally add up. So um yeah. So this was
Speaker 1: this was their theory about it, and they they more
Speaker 1: or less solved it on on the show, even though
Speaker 1: the lady still was getting calls, and one of the
Speaker 1: guys who was involved in figuring out what was going
Speaker 1: on said that there are so few people who would
Speaker 1: know how to do this or have the like time
Speaker 1: like He's like, this person has to be retired if
Speaker 1: they're doing this, and probably worked in the telecom industry
Speaker 1: because they know what you know, and yeah yeah, so
Speaker 1: so they're like he was like, there's like five people
Speaker 1: in the world and I've probably talked to them, like
Speaker 1: who do this? Um, it was a very interesting that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that is what this is part of
Speaker 1: or if it's its own thing, because my my immediate
Speaker 1: response to that was that if you're going to call
Speaker 1: somebody and you're trying to get them to stay on
Speaker 1: the line and you do something creepy, and then you
Speaker 1: keep calling back and it's like the same creepy thing
Speaker 1: over and over again, such as an ice cream truck. Uh,
Speaker 1: my response would be like hang up immediately the next
Speaker 1: time they called, I wouldn't be like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: stay on the line longer to see if like more
Speaker 1: context reveals itself. The thing about the field recordings makes
Speaker 1: more sense because it's like you would stay on the
Speaker 1: line to try to gather protext, you know, is that
Speaker 1: also why tell? I mean, this is maybe stupid, but
Speaker 1: is that why there you'll often receive like telemarketing phone
Speaker 1: calls with like such long lag. Yeah, definitely, that's why
Speaker 1: people in telemarketing take a really long time to like
Speaker 1: introduce themselves and say what they're doing. And sometimes I'll
Speaker 1: stay on the line with them because I'm like, I
Speaker 1: know you're getting paid longer than Yeah. Is that why
Speaker 1: they have the lag? I thought that was just because
Speaker 1: the calling machine had to have was taking time to
Speaker 1: connect them. I thought it was just to make the
Speaker 1: whole experience longer because because that lag is bad, because
Speaker 1: because most people hang up, just hang up. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: always talked to the telemarketers. I'm always trying to get
Speaker 1: them to break the break the facade and like tell
Speaker 1: me some personal detail about themselves. I do that occasionally,
Speaker 1: but I you have to really catch me in the
Speaker 1: right mood for me to stick around. I mean it's
Speaker 1: that I never begrudged the person who's calling. I always
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Speaker 1: guys call into any weird eight hundred numbers or anything?
Speaker 1: When like a kid like call a hotline? Oh, I
Speaker 1: called hotlines. I feel like I called love line. Probably really,
Speaker 1: I mean not, that's not yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 1: I did. Like you calls on the phone, Did you
Speaker 1: have a problem or you just wanted to call to
Speaker 1: see what happened? I just wanted to say what's up?
Speaker 1: I mean, I just have this memory of, like, you know,
Speaker 1: if there was a number to call, calling it kind
Speaker 1: of And I also tend to stay on with telemarketers.
Speaker 1: Although the Windows PC there's a virus on your Windows computer,
Speaker 1: it's gone. Every time I've had a real engagement, I
Speaker 1: get so sad about that scam. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: I have a landline, so I get like a lot
Speaker 1: of telemarketing calls. And there's this one scam where people's
Speaker 1: you know, you're called by a supposed technician who says
Speaker 1: that there's a problem that you have, like a virus
Speaker 1: on your Windows computer, which of course the likelihood of
Speaker 1: you having is not. You know, a lot of these
Speaker 1: are targeted, well, these are targeted at older people. And
Speaker 1: then they can kind of block you out of your
Speaker 1: computer remotely if you have you know. So yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: But also I feel like the people who get into
Speaker 1: those scams sometimes it's because they're lonely and they're like,
Speaker 1: somebody called me. Oh, I mean, I don't know it
Speaker 1: kind of praise on this boomer fear of like, you know,
Speaker 1: the like computer vibe. I growing up, my dad was
Speaker 1: so preoccupied with computer virus. Our listeners about your nightmare.
Speaker 1: Oh well, this is off topic because it's not related
Speaker 1: to fear and terror and nighttime. It's so over the weekend.
Speaker 1: I took a nap. I feel pretty guilty about it.
Speaker 1: I don't often you always feel really bad about it.
Speaker 1: I took a nap, and of course I don't know
Speaker 1: why I should have been doing other stuff. I took
Speaker 1: a nap um and of course because it was a nap,
Speaker 1: I had a nightmare, like a terrible nightmare, and I
Speaker 1: only it was so brief that I only really remember
Speaker 1: the point just before I woke up, where I had
Speaker 1: my computer in my lab and blood just started gushing
Speaker 1: out of all of the courts. It was the most
Speaker 1: terrifying nightmare I've ever had. Like it was a very
Speaker 1: it was awful. I was like, you saved that for
Speaker 1: your Stephen King novels. Yeah, BE'TI ful? Scary image it was,
Speaker 1: and I like I woke up and I was like,
Speaker 1: what would I do if that happened? Like would I
Speaker 1: take it to the Genius Bar? Like I know it
Speaker 1: would be somehow my fault, Like the blood was like
Speaker 1: my fault. I just was watching the original it the
Speaker 1: TV movie one was so good. It is not good.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We were talking about the Harry Anderson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god. I watched it semi recently. I found
Speaker 1: it to be like all borderline unwatchable, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's so good, you're crazy. I also liked the stand
Speaker 1: TV movie. Um, yeah, me too. I love all the
Speaker 1: Stephen King TV movies. Team Stephen King TV movies on
Speaker 1: the West Coast over here, all right, But I was
Speaker 1: just gonna say the part in it when Beverly is
Speaker 1: in the bathroom and the like balloon starts just like
Speaker 1: a balloon starts inflating out of the sink and then
Speaker 1: it just like pops and it's full of blood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: super scary. Also, we were watching it and my boyfriend
Speaker 1: was like, wait, is this about puberty could be? Did
Speaker 1: you see the new It? Uh? No, I did not.
Speaker 1: Actually they do that scene. The version of that scene
Speaker 1: that's in the new one, I think is pretty great.
Speaker 1: Uh it's you like the new It more than the
Speaker 1: original It. It's a more competent movie. I would say, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't love it, but it's like there's
Speaker 1: some scary stuff in it. Yeah, what I said, Oh man,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm riding for the original. Emily. How old
Speaker 1: were you when you saw the original It? Oh? I
Speaker 1: didn't see it until I was at an adult. I
Speaker 1: mean there's the thing. Yeah, um, that would be it.
Speaker 1: I saw it as an adult and a person who
Speaker 1: writes about movies. So yeah, Like, all I'm saying is
Speaker 1: if you saw Tim Curry as that clown, if you like,
Speaker 1: turn the corner out of the Audio Boom office in
Speaker 1: a moment and you see Tim Curry at that clown
Speaker 1: in Times Square. Oh yeah, no, he's he's great, and
Speaker 1: he's he's better than um, what's his face? The Scars
Speaker 1: guard brother? Who's who's um Pennywise Elizabethan Rough? Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: fancy clown. That's how you do. That's what I thought
Speaker 1: was so funny. I was like, for the gritty reboot,
Speaker 1: they gave him like an old timey, doesn't he have?
Speaker 1: He had like a frilly thing going on in the
Speaker 1: made it more Victorians. It's like one of those stiff collars.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, so it's more baroque, say a little
Speaker 1: a tad steampunk, speaking of things that belonged to a
Speaker 1: certain time. Emily wrote a really, really, really great piece
Speaker 1: on Vulture about E d M music and the recession.
Speaker 1: I highly recommend you check it out. So, Emily, did
Speaker 1: you want to talk about more about that? Yeah, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: VICI passed away. I think it was a Thursday. It
Speaker 1: was Thursday night and he was twenty eight years old.
Speaker 1: But um, I think I that was when I saw
Speaker 1: that that had happened. That was there are very few
Speaker 1: deaths now, and it feels like there's another death every
Speaker 1: every week. But that was one where I like, I
Speaker 1: like like held out my computer like it was on fire.
Speaker 1: It was like what, because I mean, yes, he's very young,
Speaker 1: but it also just felt like, um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: There it kind of felt like, uh, an end of
Speaker 1: an era in a way. And I texted you guys
Speaker 1: and Molly sent back the picture of from from Boogie
Speaker 1: Nights where they have the Goodbye to the seventies Welcome
Speaker 1: eighties banner. Um, and that is definitely what this feels like. Um.
Speaker 1: And I and morbidly I was telling Sam, my coworker
Speaker 1: on Slacker, was just like I was like, just for
Speaker 1: writerally purposes, because I've always just been interested in writing
Speaker 1: and thinking about a d M. Uh, and it feels
Speaker 1: very much like it felt like it's on the downswing
Speaker 1: for many years now, and I was always kind of
Speaker 1: having my antenna out for the thing that would make
Speaker 1: it feel like it was over, like you know, some
Speaker 1: big club closing in Vegas, or or you know, some
Speaker 1: drastic change to the lineup at Coachella or something like that.
Speaker 1: And uh, and this, you know, kind of undoubtedly felt
Speaker 1: like it was it. But it was certainly not what
Speaker 1: I ever would have wanted to have happened or or
Speaker 1: predicted or anything. So it was really shocking. Um. I
Speaker 1: thought maybe the early I thought the first end of
Speaker 1: d M was when people died on the hard Fest boat,
Speaker 1: when that girl disappeared, you know, And then you realize
Speaker 1: it happens that every festival, all one of the big
Speaker 1: things was when they moved Electric Daisy Carnival from a
Speaker 1: late of Vegas. Um. And part of the reason they
Speaker 1: moved it was because they were like, too many underaged
Speaker 1: kids are going right at the colasum huh. And some
Speaker 1: of these raves that they do in like these giant
Speaker 1: indoor arenas. I find that like that seems like the
Speaker 1: worst possible to go to a raven. Uh. But yeah,
Speaker 1: this obviously retired from performing a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: He had he had such bad issues with I think
Speaker 1: drinking mostly. He said he had UM, he had his
Speaker 1: like pancreas removed or something, and pink he had pancreatitis.
Speaker 1: He was just having really really bad health problems and
Speaker 1: he yeah, he was like maybe we'll come back when
Speaker 1: I'm sixty. Yeah. People, somebody was saying, like, now this
Speaker 1: turns uh. I took a pill and abisa into like
Speaker 1: Hotel California that J Brooks. Yeah, No, it was it
Speaker 1: was it was candle in the wind. It was candle
Speaker 1: in the wind. Yeah. I know, but we respect you know,
Speaker 1: we can just transpose it onto music that you like.
Speaker 1: You can transpose it. Um. I was always trying to
Speaker 1: get you to do a column called Eat Emily. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I always wanted it was one of these things
Speaker 1: I always wanted to write about, and it was kind
Speaker 1: of hard to like pitch in a convincing way like
Speaker 1: why I thought it was interesting and like a handful
Speaker 1: of us that like like the d M and we
Speaker 1: talk about it, um. But you know, it's very much
Speaker 1: like the way that it was talked about. I feel
Speaker 1: like it was always like hair metal where ye um.
Speaker 1: You know, there's obviously a lot of problems with the
Speaker 1: d UM in terms of like what kinds of DJ
Speaker 1: has become the biggest DJs in the world, and the
Speaker 1: fact that they were all straight white guys, um, you know,
Speaker 1: especially because dance music culture comes so much out of
Speaker 1: queerness and uh non whiteness, and the fact that all
Speaker 1: these big DJs were like Calvin Harris, you know, a
Speaker 1: VICI diplo, Like all these guys are the same kind
Speaker 1: of guy. Um. And you know, just sort of the
Speaker 1: advent of like brow step and dance music becoming just
Speaker 1: browy in a certain way. Um. Yeah, it became this
Speaker 1: thing where it was like fat guys wanted to go
Speaker 1: essentially to the disco, which felt like an interest in
Speaker 1: her ecstasy. Yeah yeah, I mean that's what I like
Speaker 1: about the movie Saturday Night Fever is it's about like
Speaker 1: the end of disco when it is like meatheads in
Speaker 1: the suburbs, you know, just using it to pick up women.
Speaker 1: Going off of that, like, I was looking at some
Speaker 1: old blog posts I had written, and like it's and
Speaker 1: I was pointing this out at the time, and in
Speaker 1: retrospect it feels even more soon that like Jersey Shore
Speaker 1: was a great harbinger of e M because of yeah,
Speaker 1: it was about house music in in the Bridge and
Speaker 1: tunnel house music. Yeah yeah. I mean I argue with
Speaker 1: my boyfriend a lot about Saturday Night Fever because I'm
Speaker 1: always like, it's such a great movie and he's like,
Speaker 1: it's a bad disco movie, which is true, you know,
Speaker 1: and the person who wrote it was actually writing about
Speaker 1: up the mod scene and just like transposible to details
Speaker 1: to be about disco. And I'm like, that's what's good
Speaker 1: about it. It It doesn't matter what the scene. But he's
Speaker 1: he's very firm of like, yeah, but there are no
Speaker 1: good disco movies. There's no movie about like Paradise Garage.
Speaker 1: There's like fifty four and and just like why it's
Speaker 1: so hard for people to make a good artifact about
Speaker 1: uh dance music culture. And a lot of the best
Speaker 1: things are documentaries, right, I mean down for any old
Speaker 1: a d M documentary, not the one there was one
Speaker 1: that was about like everyone going to a festival uh
Speaker 1: and I can't remember even what the festival was, but
Speaker 1: it was like just like a infomercial for the festival.
Speaker 1: But it was actually really interesting. There is one wa um,
Speaker 1: there's one people from all over the world going to
Speaker 1: a festival and like following their stories. Well they did
Speaker 1: do it. Um. They did an e d C documentary
Speaker 1: a few years ago that was like because they do
Speaker 1: like a kind of big like Victory lap clip every
Speaker 1: year for a d C in Vegas where they show everything.
Speaker 1: But then they did an actual feature length I think
Speaker 1: I think it was because I think it was the
Speaker 1: year that I was out there. Um and yeah, and
Speaker 1: it is just an ad for I mean like the
Speaker 1: Swedish House Mafia documentary, which I always recommend to anybody
Speaker 1: because it's like so it really especially in light of
Speaker 1: of Vici's death, like I think really sheds of pretty
Speaker 1: uh like unflattering light not on them, accidental spinal tap yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's like the people around them, you know, like
Speaker 1: when you see what it's like, it's a lot actually,
Speaker 1: like have you guys ever seen Cocksucker Blues the Rolling
Speaker 1: Stones documentary. You're like, I'm not supposed to see it's
Speaker 1: so good because it's just like really depressing. It's like
Speaker 1: the height of the Rolling Stones, like Glamour and Coke Years,
Speaker 1: and it's just like these super sad hangers on and
Speaker 1: all these junkies following Keith Richards round, and it just
Speaker 1: like makes being backstage and like just anyone who's not
Speaker 1: the Rolling Stones and even the Rolling Stones because you're
Speaker 1: like everyone's trying to get something from them. It just
Speaker 1: feels so gross and like really demathologizes it because you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this would be like a horrible environment to be in
Speaker 1: every day of your life. And with these DJs, especially
Speaker 1: like a lot of them, you know, end up getting
Speaker 1: sober because like to just be in the club every night,
Speaker 1: you cannot be getting sucked up every night. And even
Speaker 1: though that's like what the crowd might be there for,
Speaker 1: you know, is to like have their party their brains out,
Speaker 1: it's like it's you're at work, Yeah, you're in your office.
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing. Like they all are like
Speaker 1: we don't drink or like we don't do drugs or anything.
Speaker 1: And like first you're like, yeah, right, you're saying that
Speaker 1: because you're in this documentary and you want to look
Speaker 1: at But then you watch it and you're like, actually, no,
Speaker 1: I believe you, and I understand why you wouldn't. Like
Speaker 1: it just makes a lot of sense. Yeah. I profiled
Speaker 1: Martin Garrick's when I was at MTV, who's like a
Speaker 1: young Dutch super world star world Star or superstar dj
Speaker 1: UM and yeah, I mean his just his schedule was
Speaker 1: like so incredibly regimented, and he had just like a
Speaker 1: lot of handlers who were like, you know whose job
Speaker 1: it is to like wake him up and making sure
Speaker 1: he goes to the next place. But it's also like
Speaker 1: like I ended up feeling a weird kind of empathy
Speaker 1: for him because I was like, even though this is
Speaker 1: like the greatest life and he's living his dream, he
Speaker 1: has like all these people on his payroll where like
Speaker 1: he can't get sick or funk up or like their
Speaker 1: you know, their days fucked, and he like has to
Speaker 1: just be in like a different he has to be
Speaker 1: like Vegas and then like you know, Antwerp the next
Speaker 1: day and like Tokyo. I think that Martin Garrix's career
Speaker 1: also it's like totally um follows the model of the
Speaker 1: Vichy career where it's like he had the one song.
Speaker 1: He had the one really just like kind of culture
Speaker 1: not to the degree of levels, but like the song
Speaker 1: that was a lot of places. Yeah, animals, and like
Speaker 1: my argument for like why that was great also was
Speaker 1: I was just like, how often do you hear install
Speaker 1: metals become like a big song, you know, even though
Speaker 1: instrumentals are so much a part of like d M,
Speaker 1: it's like very rare for an instrumental song to become
Speaker 1: a radio hit for whatever dumb reason. Um. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: you know, I definitely have a weakness for like d
Speaker 1: M and big room techno and super clubs and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah, I've talked about like when I went
Speaker 1: to see Martin Garrix. We went to like Caesar's Palace
Speaker 1: to the super club and went in through the back entrance,
Speaker 1: you know, and it was awesome. And then you know,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is this is good, Like
Speaker 1: I am not too jaded for this ever. Um, well,
Speaker 1: I mean I think that it's it's a weird um.
Speaker 1: I mean I I wrote about this somewhat in the article,
Speaker 1: but like I think that I think the levels was
Speaker 1: sort of the one that broke it. But this whole
Speaker 1: kind of um post recession. Uh, like people like us,
Speaker 1: who I don't think that maybe prior to that, I
Speaker 1: don't think either of us would have necessarily been like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna like Lee, you know, be glamorized by Vegas
Speaker 1: superclubs and like think that that's the coolest thing, and
Speaker 1: actually like forget about it. Tell me something. We bonded
Speaker 1: over it greatly. Yeah, we're the ones who we both
Speaker 1: like Las Vegas and like glitter. Yeah. But I feel
Speaker 1: like the whole Vegas boom around that and the whole
Speaker 1: culture and how it the way it just became the
Speaker 1: part of the fabric of just like capitalist culture, just
Speaker 1: like that there's a dubstep drop in like a Macy's
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day sale ad or something like that. You know,
Speaker 1: it just became the texture of everything and came to
Speaker 1: signify like party, yeah, or like yeah, just some I
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like I could spend the
Speaker 1: next five years just trying to dissect what what it's signified.
Speaker 1: But it didn't feel so processional. Music has changed. I
Speaker 1: was just listening to Jonesy's jukebox on the way over,
Speaker 1: as I often am, and like sometimes when I'm listening
Speaker 1: to Jonesy's jukebox and I'm like, you know, they're playing
Speaker 1: all the classic rock, I'm just like rock music is
Speaker 1: kind of over, like it's been over for play some
Speaker 1: weird stuff. He does give a lot of weird stuff,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I like this music, but also like,
Speaker 1: does it sound like ragtime? Well, it's like jazz, dusty
Speaker 1: dusty music. Yeah, it is like jazz. It's like a
Speaker 1: specialty form. Uh. And it does feel like in order
Speaker 1: for a band to like the next really big band,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we're going back to like DJs
Speaker 1: and bands going back to rap rock. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: now Ben just shook his head. Um, I mean a
Speaker 1: nightcall band. We like rap rock and E d M.
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Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your podcasts now. They're are like parents,
Speaker 1: especially like Brooklyn parents will send their kids to go
Speaker 1: to rock school in the way that I feel like
Speaker 1: we like our parents would encourage us to do jazz,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't do jazz, but like I know a
Speaker 1: lot of kids that I went high school with. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you like play the trombone and then you joining the
Speaker 1: jaz as like group at school or something. It's like
Speaker 1: became a part of your formalized education instead of something
Speaker 1: cool that you did when you weren't at school. And
Speaker 1: I feel like that's sort of where because rock still
Speaker 1: has that, like that theme of rock is that it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, for the kids, like breaking away, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, although I've been arguing with people
Speaker 1: online about the band Greta van Fleet. Have you guys
Speaker 1: heard them? They're like a bunch of twenty year olds
Speaker 1: and they just sound exactly like led Zeppelin. And then
Speaker 1: there was a something with Robert Plant where he's like,
Speaker 1: I know where we got that voice. He took it
Speaker 1: from me. Yeah, But Justin Bieber's been posting about them
Speaker 1: a lot like Greta Van Fleet, but it's like it
Speaker 1: does feel almost like it's like rock seventies rock cosplay
Speaker 1: rather than like and it does feel like the last
Speaker 1: iteration of rock that we even really got, which was
Speaker 1: the you know, the New York uh meet me in
Speaker 1: the Bathroom stuff, was also very like cosplay e reference
Speaker 1: to end in like you know, we're a shitty gang
Speaker 1: of four bands. I appreciated that E d M because
Speaker 1: so much of that I was so like not into
Speaker 1: the Strokes Wave stuff, I think because so much of
Speaker 1: it was about like rich people posturing that they have
Speaker 1: no money. Um, and E d M is like the opposite,
Speaker 1: because it's like not rich people posturing that they're incredibly
Speaker 1: wealthy for like one night. You know. It's like you
Speaker 1: save up all your money and you go to the
Speaker 1: club and get bottle service. Um. Although we did a
Speaker 1: little bit see the dark side of it at Hakkasan recently. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the the completely mobbed version of it. I mean I
Speaker 1: didn't actually go to a club at in Vegas until
Speaker 1: I was there to like, right, I never went um
Speaker 1: for fun. When I went with you guys, that was
Speaker 1: the first time I actually went, you know, on my
Speaker 1: own accord. Um. I mostly preferred like going to festivals
Speaker 1: and stuff for that kind of thing, because you could
Speaker 1: just sort of wander and you're not all cramped in
Speaker 1: this place where you have to spend some money on
Speaker 1: alcohol or whatever. Um. And yeah, I mean I have
Speaker 1: very I have great memories going to hard Fress with you,
Speaker 1: great of going to Coachella a few times. Uh, I
Speaker 1: was saying, like the night of the Avici's death was
Speaker 1: announced that it was like, I want to be in
Speaker 1: the Saharitant right now, just just like because it feels
Speaker 1: like this day E d M died thing and I
Speaker 1: just want to see what's going out, like what the
Speaker 1: vibe is. If any if any night call listeners were
Speaker 1: in the Saharitant on Friday, Uh what was that? Um?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah it was four twenty then please um yeah,
Speaker 1: give us a report from on the ground. I'm very interested. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you had a if you had an Avici emotional breakdown,
Speaker 1: we would like to hear from you, because we are
Speaker 1: we are our listeners, we are your friends, we are
Speaker 1: your friends. We care about your d M feelings. I
Speaker 1: thought one of the best things, Emily, that you kind
Speaker 1: of talked about and described was that the kind of
Speaker 1: like adrenaline that went on, you know, around the recession.
Speaker 1: Being of an age where you don't like you're kind
Speaker 1: of scraping your way into a career and needing to
Speaker 1: like almost give yourself. It was almost just like kicking
Speaker 1: your body and being like, you know, just keep going,
Speaker 1: and I E d M is not like I'm not
Speaker 1: like anti E d M. It's just not like it
Speaker 1: doesn't get give me the feelings, like you know, I
Speaker 1: know we like but I mean, but I connected to
Speaker 1: everything like when you you know, we're writing about like
Speaker 1: couch surfing and then just having to like you just
Speaker 1: watch everything kind of collapse in an age where you
Speaker 1: can't really handle seeing that. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I just thought that was like just what everyone's twenties were, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, oh, I was so excited
Speaker 1: for my twenties always because I like watched too many
Speaker 1: Sonic Youth videos and then they're like pretty to pressing
Speaker 1: and suck, especially if you like can't you know, find
Speaker 1: a steady job. It's like, well, I I can be rough.
Speaker 1: But I just I conflated that with the recession because
Speaker 1: I didn't it didn't occur to me that there was
Speaker 1: ever a time when you could like get out of
Speaker 1: college and get a job. Yeah, And I mean I
Speaker 1: think also there's a key difference between like growing up
Speaker 1: and being in your early twenties and having somebody like
Speaker 1: Sonic Youth, like a kind of disaffected like uh and
Speaker 1: and too cool for school and like you know, too
Speaker 1: cool for your corporate culture or whatever, like for a
Speaker 1: while anyway, uh, like band versus something that's just so
Speaker 1: nakedly capitalist as dam, which I think is maybe kind
Speaker 1: of the generational split on that, because maybe it was
Speaker 1: just hard for some people to see why you could
Speaker 1: ever like that the same reason people that just stay
Speaker 1: in here metal, which is just like it's about fucking
Speaker 1: party and yeah, and it's like not about it felt
Speaker 1: so refreshing, I think because we were all poor and
Speaker 1: like unable to imagine ever having ever being gamefully employed
Speaker 1: or having any money, and so something that was just
Speaker 1: so like yeah that felt such the opposite of reality,
Speaker 1: but also wasn't trying. Like the last thing you would
Speaker 1: want to listen to is like yeah, like like something
Speaker 1: like like garage rock or like you know, people like
Speaker 1: rich people pretending to be poor or something that's like
Speaker 1: the furthest from like where you wanted to go with music.
Speaker 1: I feel like at that time, you wanted to escape
Speaker 1: to like the computer generated fantasy. Uh, and that is
Speaker 1: what that is what Levels offered. Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I was totally not like a pure rockist, but I
Speaker 1: was definitely like an indie rock person throughout my life,
Speaker 1: and then like after college was probably the first time
Speaker 1: I started really like getting into dance music because it
Speaker 1: just also felt so vast to me. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even know where the entry point is, and
Speaker 1: like warehouse parties are great, it's great. Uh, it's awesome
Speaker 1: to be in a weird, sweaty church with a bunch
Speaker 1: of people that are all just bonding over music. That's
Speaker 1: the other thing I could talk about for a zillion
Speaker 1: years is like the way it just all feels like
Speaker 1: Hillsong after a certain point it's really hill Song. Well,
Speaker 1: I think about that a lot because I'm really interested in, like,
Speaker 1: you know, group dynamics, and weirdly these things cover just
Speaker 1: all the things I'm interested in, from you know, E
Speaker 1: d M to the Olympics. Yeah, you know, like there's
Speaker 1: something scary about the power of crowds. We should I
Speaker 1: should also say that hill Song is like justin Bieber's
Speaker 1: church and like the big mega super church from Austria.
Speaker 1: It's a mega church. There's something really comforting and amazing
Speaker 1: about like losing yourself in a group that is also
Speaker 1: really scary and the back and feeling like experiencing the
Speaker 1: same feeling as a huge group of people and with E. D. M.
Speaker 1: It's so based around the drop. It's like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it is like they revs up your serotonin, you know,
Speaker 1: and like a really good I feel like a really
Speaker 1: good DJ. You know, some of those super DJs are
Speaker 1: not that good, and some of them are great. You know,
Speaker 1: it really depends on who you're talking about. And I
Speaker 1: won't name and shame, but you can feel free to
Speaker 1: ask me all my real opinions. But yeah, a really
Speaker 1: good DJ can like manipulate your brain waves in a
Speaker 1: way that is so pleasurable and does take control, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the ideal is like something where
Speaker 1: you have like some control, but like you're giving up
Speaker 1: some control. Yeah, yeah, you're not totally just being manipulated.
Speaker 1: You're like part of the manipulation of yourself. Yeah with
Speaker 1: ru Yeah. Well. One of my favorite like recordings of
Speaker 1: any A d M ever is UM an Above and
Speaker 1: Beyond live recording. UM. I think it's like at Wimbley
Speaker 1: or something like that, and UM and so you can
Speaker 1: hear the crowd noise and it's like this remix of
Speaker 1: like one of their really big songs and like as
Speaker 1: it's building, something about the way the crowd is recorded
Speaker 1: makes you just envision everybody being inside like a big
Speaker 1: tilt world and everybody's like screaming and stuff and like
Speaker 1: because they know the big thing is going to happen,
Speaker 1: and it's like so joyous to listen to um yeah,
Speaker 1: and like you know, and I remember being like going
Speaker 1: to whatever, like a modest mouse show or something and
Speaker 1: like two thousand two or two do three or whatever
Speaker 1: and being and were probably there. Yeah, it was it
Speaker 1: was all Tomorrow's parties, UM and being so irritated by
Speaker 1: everybody around me who liked the band that I liked,
Speaker 1: because I was like, fuck you, this is my band.
Speaker 1: Like there's also there's like a thing in indie rock
Speaker 1: that is the arms folded at the show thing. You know.
Speaker 1: Like so much of gen X stuff was about like
Speaker 1: not yeah, not selling out, but like not really experiencing
Speaker 1: pleasure in anything that should give you a fun time,
Speaker 1: being cooler than everybody, just punishing yourself, like punishing other
Speaker 1: people withholding information and you know, and the way information
Speaker 1: was dispersed was so different, Like mixtape culture did so
Speaker 1: much come out of like you need someone to turn
Speaker 1: you onto stuff you can't just find it yourself. And
Speaker 1: then we were totally the kids from the LCD sound
Speaker 1: System song who were like, Hey, I learned about all
Speaker 1: this stuff on the internet and I know just as
Speaker 1: much as you, And it didn't take me like any
Speaker 1: money to create dig because that was the big thing
Speaker 1: I always resented, was like, if you wanted to have
Speaker 1: a great record collection, you had to have money to
Speaker 1: spend so much money and have the time also to
Speaker 1: like you, like, you know, go out and search for
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Speaker 1: com slash Start. So trans issitioning from the end of
Speaker 1: one era to another end of an era that feels
Speaker 1: kind of connected to to this, Uh, we wanted to
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the end of Craigslist, personals
Speaker 1: and back Page and what that means for the Internet
Speaker 1: in the future. Well, we were talking last week about
Speaker 1: UM right bell and kind of message board radio and
Speaker 1: and the kind of equivalent on the Internet of of
Speaker 1: places where really genuinely felt um not necessarily unmoderated, but
Speaker 1: definitely not there for UM, like making people a ton
Speaker 1: of money is more just like an open town square
Speaker 1: where people could wave their respective free freak flags. UM.
Speaker 1: And yeah, this so this was I think it was
Speaker 1: at the end of March that this act uh basically
Speaker 1: made it made uh it rendered Craigslist personals and back
Speaker 1: Page more culpable in the case in cases of um
Speaker 1: uh human trafficking and and and sex abuse and that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. UM, so that they would be considered
Speaker 1: accessories to a crime if something was to pass through there.
Speaker 1: So that is why, um those places had to shut
Speaker 1: down their their services basically, which also made it so
Speaker 1: that a lot of sex workers who were not trafficked
Speaker 1: are out of a very vital part of how they
Speaker 1: make their money, UM, which is obviously very bad. And UM,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where the activism is as far as
Speaker 1: like or not where it is, but like you know
Speaker 1: what the status is on trying to get it reverse
Speaker 1: because I know that there's a big movement around that
Speaker 1: right now. UM. Yeah, it seems crazy. It definitely feels
Speaker 1: like trying to litigate the Internet and privacy in the
Speaker 1: way that they're trying to do now is crazy because
Speaker 1: you can't put it all back in the box. And
Speaker 1: that's just what they are trying to do well. It's
Speaker 1: so wild that you can do that. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not wild. I guess it's very predictable. But you can
Speaker 1: do that for something like Craigslos personals because it's so
Speaker 1: small and really not that much of a um economic force,
Speaker 1: Whereas I think something like Facebook, which if you want
Speaker 1: to talk about stuff on the Internet that has led
Speaker 1: to a documentable harm uh is definitely more, has way
Speaker 1: more going on there, including I'm sure some if you,
Speaker 1: if you are are that concerned about sex trafficking, I'm
Speaker 1: sure that you could probably tie some cases to Facebook.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's like, you can't you know, they're
Speaker 1: not like litigating people's private messages on like Instagram, on Twitter,
Speaker 1: where you know, you could use all these things exactly
Speaker 1: the same way. The fact that it's just Craigslist personals
Speaker 1: and back Page, which yeah, are totally resources that sex
Speaker 1: workers need to work safely, just feels like just part
Speaker 1: of the part of the garbage time that we're in.
Speaker 1: And Craigulous personal especially, I feel like that was just
Speaker 1: one of the first things on the Internet. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: feels like so early. It feels like this first flag
Speaker 1: plant planted down or something like our missed encounters gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a good question. Miss connections are still there. I believe
Speaker 1: that is the one remaining part of um, of the
Speaker 1: personals there. That's so fucking weird. Maybe there's a way
Speaker 1: to migrate everybody who used personals onto andectioning right now,
Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't looked, That's what I would do.
Speaker 1: That's the thing without like the way you know, with
Speaker 1: Sesta Fosta, which was a really evil bill that really
Speaker 1: targeted sex workers, um, you know, and it's all these
Speaker 1: horrible right wing idiots who are advocating for this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. Um, And it's so weird in the Trump
Speaker 1: era obviously, where we have like sex workers who have
Speaker 1: encountered Trump, you know, and just that those are the people,
Speaker 1: the people that pay sex workers are also the people
Speaker 1: that are like, this shouldn't exist, and if it exists,
Speaker 1: it should be dangerous for the you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know the way that this This just seems like such
Speaker 1: a bad fix for any you know, I don't even
Speaker 1: know how much of a real problem this is. And
Speaker 1: in the meantime, it takes away this whole community, and
Speaker 1: I think especially for LGPT people who are trying like
Speaker 1: there's still that's still like a pretty vital place for
Speaker 1: people to meet each other and um and to you know,
Speaker 1: explore their needs and everything, and that it's like the
Speaker 1: Internet that we talked about a lot of, like oh
Speaker 1: the Internet where like people can meet that like need
Speaker 1: to meet each other. You know that, Like wouldn't the
Speaker 1: Innerne the Internet in North Inner North? That's like the
Speaker 1: lame Internet after after the Inner North. Yeah, that the
Speaker 1: promise of the Internet was like I'll be able to
Speaker 1: find the other people that share my interest especially if
Speaker 1: those interests are like things I need to keep secret
Speaker 1: for like safety reasons. Yeah, you know. Yeah, and just
Speaker 1: this idea that you're making it that much harder for
Speaker 1: people because it's not like sex work is ever going
Speaker 1: to stop or go away. You're just making these people's
Speaker 1: lives like much more dangerous. And there's no there's no
Speaker 1: real re um like replacement for any of those forums.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was curious because I saw that this
Speaker 1: had happened, and I went to go check on this
Speaker 1: um this app, I guess you could call it that.
Speaker 1: I did a story on a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: called Olallah that's like a paid dating app um that
Speaker 1: is based in Germany and they were trying to roll
Speaker 1: out in the States, and I think that there was
Speaker 1: a lot of legal problems with it obviously because of
Speaker 1: the way that I heard they're like doing stings on
Speaker 1: seeking arrangement and stuff like that. Yeah, just all of
Speaker 1: these sites which I totally feel like should be allowed
Speaker 1: to exist because who fucking cares if somebody is paying
Speaker 1: for sex as long as everybody is getting paid, you know,
Speaker 1: and can be safe. Well, the women who have started
Speaker 1: OLAH like originally had a site or had an app
Speaker 1: that was for that was four sex Workers where they
Speaker 1: could advertise themselves and contact people and like you know,
Speaker 1: have it be this sort of moderated messaging service, um.
Speaker 1: And you could also report people and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But that you know does in in Berlin and um,
Speaker 1: where you know, it's legal. Um, so it's it's very
Speaker 1: different here. But that that didn't even last because people
Speaker 1: were I think didn't want to have their names attached
Speaker 1: to it, like the Johns didn't um. And Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it just came such a thing where it was like
Speaker 1: you know that for a while, when it was when
Speaker 1: it was working, and when when people were using it
Speaker 1: was like, Oh cool, I don't have to like stand
Speaker 1: outside in the cold anymore or like potentially you know,
Speaker 1: being an unsafe area. Yeah, that's the thing, is like
Speaker 1: what we need is regulation and legalization, not like not
Speaker 1: just shutting things down that you know, might be flawed
Speaker 1: but serve a crucial purpose. And it does just seem
Speaker 1: like they made it about trafficking in order to sort
Speaker 1: of shove all this other stuff in, you know. And
Speaker 1: a lot of people were calling out Bernie Sanders because
Speaker 1: he voted for SASA fasta um, and then like retweeted
Speaker 1: a Cardi B thing recently, and everybody was like, hey,
Speaker 1: Cardi B was a stripper and a sex worker, and
Speaker 1: like she just gave a whole speech about how like
Speaker 1: sex workers at her level and like the strip club
Speaker 1: don't get the same attention for like me too, stuff
Speaker 1: that like Hollywood actresses might get. Uh And yeah, so
Speaker 1: you know, fucking were trying to co opt that sucks. Um,
Speaker 1: Cardi B for prez obviously, no no celebrities for president,
Speaker 1: No celebrities for president. Miranda legalize it. Yeah that's Randa
Speaker 1: fix the subway. That's as far as I guess. She
Speaker 1: just wants to be governor. I you know, I was
Speaker 1: suspicious until she started putting her money where her mouth
Speaker 1: is and already, like even her presence is. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: everything Cardi B has done so far has been unprecedented,
Speaker 1: so you know, and she loves FDR, So I am
Speaker 1: will never rule out a Cardi B presidency. I have
Speaker 1: to say I was a little shocked in that article.
Speaker 1: I forget who wrote it now, but just the person
Speaker 1: who who reported it didn't know that that FDR like
Speaker 1: started Social Security. I was like, come on, guys, oh man,
Speaker 1: like we need to know this. Maybe they were just
Speaker 1: leading her to talk about it. Who who is that?
Speaker 1: Franklin Delano Roosevelt? Tell me more? Um, yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: mean she's great whatever. I mean, I don't need her
Speaker 1: to run for president, but she's great and she should
Speaker 1: continue talking about the New Deal. Um. I think she
Speaker 1: deserves way better than to be president. To be honest, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it turns out being president kind of sucks. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: like being in a rock band or being an e
Speaker 1: d M. There are all these glamorous jobs are actually
Speaker 1: not that glamorous. But podcasting from a garage. Podcasting from
Speaker 1: a garage, it keeps on two million, living the recession dream?
Speaker 1: Did you say you're gonna flip it for two million?
Speaker 1: Because you know that's how much Mark Marian is. I
Speaker 1: haven't checked Redfish, and I haven't checked red did it close.
Speaker 1: Everyone's just been posting about it because it's like the
Speaker 1: famous podcasting garage, the podcast this is also a famous
Speaker 1: podcasting garage. One day, one day it will be we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a picture with the scary fencing Tommy to
Speaker 1: show you all, and then take a picture here and
Speaker 1: in the shiny audio boom studios, just to take a
Speaker 1: picture with leather jackets so we can see what it
Speaker 1: sounds like. It's some members only jacket. Also you should
Speaker 1: know it's a leather members only jacket. Oh I say
Speaker 1: members only jackets make a lot of noise. Dial can
Speaker 1: hear them? Okay, let's get some nightcall members only jacket yea,
Speaker 1: and then we'll wear them to the super Club together.
Speaker 1: I'll drive you guys there and back and then we'll
Speaker 1: do a choreographed answer team looking girls trip that we've
Speaker 1: been practicing. Please, if anybody, if any of our listeners
Speaker 1: have any ideas for merch that they'd like that they
Speaker 1: would purchase from Nightcall. They should let us know because
Speaker 1: that's a very real possibility on the Good Nightcall tinfoil hat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if we can have such a good idea, we have
Speaker 1: a talent baseball hats and oh that's a great idea. Actually,
Speaker 1: I saw a picture of art Bell. I was looking
Speaker 1: at Art bell pictures for sourcing the art for last
Speaker 1: week's podcast. There's really cute one of him. Also, like
Speaker 1: one of him holding his cat. That's really good. Um.
Speaker 1: I felt a real kinship to him because there are
Speaker 1: a lot of pictures of him in a weird podcast
Speaker 1: garage with a cat like us. So yeah, us millennials
Speaker 1: reveal our nakedly capitalistic ambitions to sell you merchandise for
Speaker 1: our podcast. That's what that's what the millennial dream is
Speaker 1: all about. Like selling out and being genuine about it.
Speaker 1: Good luck, there's a good bumper stick or two. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, give us a call at two four oh
Speaker 1: for six night. Um, give us your merch ideas. UM,
Speaker 1: share your e d M memories ask for um, I
Speaker 1: don't have emories. E d emories Yeah, um yeah, just
Speaker 1: share your You can keep sending us ghost stories ghost
Speaker 1: stories too. They've been drying if you have any alien stories,
Speaker 1: I would have really transition to alien stories as one
Speaker 1: advice advice. We love advice wants to give more advice,
Speaker 1: not just me. You said you did too, so yeah,
Speaker 1: give us a call or you can also send us
Speaker 1: an email at Nightcall Podcast at gmail dot com and
Speaker 1: our advice to you keep watching the guys never stop.
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