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Speaker 2: You want experience during your football season, well, buckle up,

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Speaker 2: sweet cheeks. We've got all the experience in the world.

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Speaker 3: This is I want your flex with Dan Bayer and

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Speaker 3: Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 2: Mike and Dan break down everything you need to set

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Speaker 2: your lineups, from position rankings to starts and sits. The

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Speaker 2: get your flexod Here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in. He is Mike Carmon, I'm Dan Byer Ian

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Speaker 1: Roddy as our executive producer hit Mike up at Swollen

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Speaker 1: Dom and Mike Carmen on Bluesky. I'm Ian at Ian

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Speaker 1: Roddy Underscore on X and on Blue Sky at ian

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Speaker 1: Ash Roddy. And you can find me Dan Bayer at

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Speaker 1: Dan Byer on Blueskuy and at Dan Byer on Fox.

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Speaker 1: They can seize in the National Football League, Mike Harmon,

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Speaker 1: We do three of them throughout the season. Gerrod Mayo

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Speaker 1: was the bit of a surprise on Sunday night. Doug

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Speaker 1: Peterson out of work on Monday for the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's that time of year for the coaches

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Speaker 1: to figure out who's gonna go where, who's gonna interview interviews.

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Speaker 1: You get an interview, you get an interview, you get

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Speaker 4: Yeah, seeing the laundry list of prospective interview subjects for

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Speaker 4: Come on in, let's talk about it. Let's glean some insights, right,

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Speaker 4: the Jets starting things off. Here's Rex Ryan gonna get

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Speaker 4: his talk. Ron Rivera was in there, Varibel in there,

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Speaker 3: He's got his.

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Speaker 4: make things happen. And that's where I come down. And

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Speaker 4: all of this is the curiosity, because none of these

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Speaker 4: You look at Jacksonville. You keep Trent Balkey, How does

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Speaker 4: that make any sense? But you fire Doug Peterson. You've

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Speaker 4: got Trevor Lawrence coming off another injury. Congratulations to he

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Speaker 4: and I talked about it on our show A Bunch.

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Speaker 4: He's talking about him being bounced and finding a new

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Speaker 4: You can find the podcast wherever you got this one,

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Speaker 4: But you know, the short of it from my end

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Speaker 4: looking at the landscape, what am I finding that's better?

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Speaker 4: And can I find a guy to come in? And

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Speaker 4: that's been the curiosity with a lot of the lists

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's gosh, there's a lot there with what you

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Speaker 1: that isn't great when your owner is saying that publicly,

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Speaker 1: but that's the reason why you move on. But I

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Chicago, which has been my whole point all

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Speaker 4: thirty two. It's in Chicago. Fans are great cities, great food,

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Speaker 4: On the Netflix broadcasts on Christmas Day to promote the

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Speaker 4: asked about his bears, my Bears, Chicago's Bears said, until

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Speaker 4: Poles is an empty suit. No matter how much Kevin

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Speaker 3: But when asked anything in.

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Speaker 4: You're supposed to be in figuring out the stadium and

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Speaker 4: why you had some people kind of stumping for Vrabel.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: You have Caleb Williams. If he didn't show you enough now,

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Speaker 4: there's plenty of deficiencies. We've talked about him at nauseum

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Speaker 3: It's like you had the keys to the car for

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 1: It all Well, I was gonna say, like, whether you

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Speaker 1: and all starts with Chargers and Texans on Saturday afternoon

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Speaker 4: Chargers two and a half point favorite forty two and

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Speaker 4: Anytime I can get the voices of SpongeBob and the

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Speaker 1: the Chargers are a better team.

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Speaker 4: Herbert with McConkey certainly has been a great connection through

440
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 4: the year. Curious to see Quinton Johnston the way he's

441
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 4: played thirteen catches in the last game. Drops have been

442
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 4: the identity through his first two seasons, but he's had

443
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Speaker 4: some big moments, some big games here for the Chargers.

444
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Speaker 3: They're gaining more confidence in him. And then you.

445
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Speaker 4: Mentioned the run game, but certainly on the other side,

446
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 4: Chargers being the best defense in all of football, giving

447
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 4: up just seventeen point seven per game, and that pass

448
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 4: rush against that beleaguered offensive line.

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Speaker 3: I think they make it tough for Stroud.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the Chargers offensive line is better. He kind

451
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Speaker 1: of threw some shade at the Texans line in the

452
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Speaker 1: last segment.

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Speaker 3: All about Alton Rashaun Slater, who said about this?

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Speaker 1: How about this? The Texans went ten and seven, scored

455
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Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy two points this year, allowed three

456
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two points this year. They're differential was zero.

457
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Speaker 3: How about that boom.

458
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Speaker 1: Man the Nightcap Steelers Cravens. I really don't like this rivalry.

459
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Speaker 1: It's just kind of boring to me. I hated it

460
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Speaker 1: when it was in its heyday. It kind of got

461
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Speaker 1: fresh to me again and now it's the third time

462
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Speaker 1: seeing it, and I just I don't see a way

463
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Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh. They've they've Mike I believed in them for

464
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 1: a while. I was calling for Mike Tomlin Coach of

465
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Speaker 1: the Year, but the way they played down the stretch

466
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 1: against good opponents just wasn't there. And I don't see

467
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Speaker 1: it happening on center.

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Speaker 4: This one where they if they really get buried, that

469
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 4: we can finally have an honest conversation about.

470
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Speaker 3: What the Steelers had been. Sure you and I have

471
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Speaker 3: had that.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking nationally because folks, you know, the staunch defenders

473
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Speaker 4: of Hey, we're always in it.

474
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Speaker 3: It's like, are you really in it?

475
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Speaker 1: And I think I was a sucker for that they

476
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Speaker 1: were in it. I think I felt that their defense

477
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: was better than what it was and that the offense

478
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Speaker 1: didn't have to do as much. So you could get

479
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: shot plays, you could hit George Pickens, you could do

480
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: those sort of things. Russell Wilson could make a throw

481
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Speaker 1: here or there. Wouldn't have to do it for four quarters.

482
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Speaker 1: We'd just have to do it for four or five plays.

483
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Speaker 1: But it sure seems like they needed a little bit more.

484
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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's just it's it's been a tough goal,

485
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Speaker 1: both on the offensive and defensive sides. And then there

486
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Speaker 1: seems to even be some infighting.

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Speaker 4: Well that's the bigger thing, right Offensively, I mean, we're

488
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Speaker 4: looking at a number of games in a row thirteen

489
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 4: point scored, seventeen points scored, ten points seventeen go back

490
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 4: a lot in the teams to where the defense has

491
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Speaker 4: had to carry the day, we got the moon ball

492
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: from Wilson to a bit some really bad decision making

493
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Speaker 4: down the stretch, as we alluded to in the last episode.

494
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Speaker 4: But you know, the George Pickens thing is just fascinating

495
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 4: to me, just where he's at mentally and physically. You know,

496
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 4: just checked out quite often and disappeared. And as much

497
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Speaker 4: as I love Pat Fryermuth, there's only so much you

498
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 4: can do with him Stretching the field. Najee Harris, Jalen

499
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 4: Warren will give you some opportunities now and again, but

500
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Speaker 4: you're not seeing enough from Austin and these other guys

501
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Speaker 4: to think you're really going to be able to play in.

502
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Speaker 3: The score that you're gonna need to.

503
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Speaker 4: With Baltimore, I don't think they're a ten point favorite

504
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Speaker 4: in this one.

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Speaker 1: For those that missed that, George Pickens had six targets

506
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: in their season finale on Saturday, one catch for zero yards,

507
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: multiple passes going through his hands, just not bringing it in.

508
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: It was ugly against Cincinnati, all right. So that's the

509
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Speaker 1: Saturday slate. Sunday starts with Denver and Buffalo. I actually

510
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: think Buffalo could get a run for their money. I

511
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Speaker 1: think that Denver is going to bring it defensively. We

512
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: know they will. I think they can score against Buffalo.

513
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Speaker 1: Buffalo may ultimately win and make me look like a

514
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: fool and win by three touchdowns. But if I had

515
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Speaker 1: to pick any team that I think can hang in

516
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Speaker 1: Week one that is a lower seed, outside of picking

517
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Speaker 1: the Chargers to win, I think Denver actually has it,

518
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Speaker 1: has a shot to compete against Buffalo.

519
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Speaker 4: Eight and a half the line, forty seven and a

520
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 4: half the total bo Nicks in that offense making some

521
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Speaker 4: things happen. Courtland Sutton special. You're looking at the way

522
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Speaker 4: Knicks can make plays with his legs too, much like

523
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Speaker 4: his counterpart Allan does. And I think that's where we

524
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Speaker 4: get into it, right when we look at Denver, what

525
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 4: were they the third or fourth best scoring defense in

526
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Speaker 4: the game. Advance, Joseph. This is where we get into

527
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 4: those debates of you know, getting another shot. Do you

528
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 4: take a defensive coach in this day and age where

529
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 4: everybody wants the offensive wizard and all of that, But

530
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Speaker 4: who do you really fear in that Buffalo receiving corps?

531
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Speaker 3: Nobody? No one, right, nobody?

532
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 4: So Josh Allen making plays with his leg sure and

533
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 4: improvisational there'll be a guy that makes a play. But

534
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Speaker 4: in terms of hey, we have to design a defense

535
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Speaker 4: to take someone away. Just don't let Josh Allen get

536
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Speaker 4: off on thirty yard sprints right, and James Cook will

537
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Speaker 4: do some damage out of the backfield as a runner

538
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Speaker 4: and receiver.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, eight and a half the total. I'll certainly

540
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Speaker 3: take the points. Would not be surprised if Peyton and

541
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Speaker 3: Joseph have a script whereby they can go in and

542
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Speaker 3: steal this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Buffalo, I end up winning in the end, but

544
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Speaker 1: I think Denver puts up a fight the Fox Marquee

545
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: Window game, if you will, Packers and Eagles smack dab

546
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Speaker 1: As we start the NFC slate of things, Jalen hurts

547
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: a concussion protocol is a question Jordan Love and his scenario.

548
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: We mentioned Christian Watson earlier. I think the Eagles are

549
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: the better team, and I think that the Eagles win

550
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: this game. MIC. But it's funny because it was our

551
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: second game of the year. In Brazil, they play and

552
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: the Eagles and Packers put on a high scoring affair,

553
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Speaker 1: And there was probably from about weeks three through about

554
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Speaker 1: week thirteen that I felt if Green Bay played Philadelphia again,

555
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: that Green Bay would win that game, and from then

556
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Speaker 1: on I don't think that way anymore. I think Philadelphia

557
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: beats him again. Philadelphia is just better than they were

558
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: at the start of the year, and I'm not sure

559
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: Green Bay is better than they are at than the

560
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: start of the year.

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Speaker 4: And I asked this legitimately, because we're still very early

562
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Speaker 4: in this week. Is it possible we see Malik Willis

563
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 4: against Kenny Pickett? Sure, I mean legitimately, I mean we're

564
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 4: I mean we're three weeks into Jalen Hurt's concussion protocol.

565
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 6: Has Tanner McKee not proven enough.

566
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 4: To I'm all for the Tanner McKee. I did watch

567
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 4: the trading card market go insane with people bidding up Tanner.

568
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: McKee cards after each he flashed.

569
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Speaker 4: But all that to say that it doesn't just become

570
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Speaker 4: Barkley versus Josh Jacobs and the kicking games at play

571
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 4: here in the midst of blizzards and whatever the hell

572
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 4: else is going on weatherwise on the East Coast.

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Speaker 1: I thought this was going to be the Sunday night game,

574
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Speaker 1: and then I think actually Fox got first DIBs on

575
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Speaker 1: the game that they wanted.

576
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Speaker 4: Look at those markets yeah, no, sure, Yeah, all right,

577
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 4: Eagles four point favorites forty five and a half.

578
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Speaker 3: Give me Barkley and the kicker.

579
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, fair enough.

580
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 4: Well, I mean just talent, I guess talent. All Like,

581
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 4: even if Hurts doesn't play, you still have to defend

582
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: brown Smith Goddard's back and Barkley out of the back.

583
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

584
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take that contingency.

585
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm good with that. Sunday Night is Commanders at Buccaneers.

586
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: That's coming up next. I know this could be a

587
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: fun game, but this is just a game that I'm

588
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: not locked into. I don't know why. I think it's

589
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: because I don't believe in the Commanders, and the Commanders

590
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: are fun for everybody else unless your team was like

591
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: competing kind of indirectly for a wild card. You know.

592
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: I had my eye as a Seahawks fan on them.

593
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: It was like, come on, can you can you lose

594
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: at least at some point? They're they're fun for for

595
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: everyone that's not tied to the NFC East or in

596
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: the playoff wise, but I I don't know how much

597
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: I'd be dying to drive home and be like, Okay,

598
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: I got to be there for the command or Buccaneers

599
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: Sunday night game. But it should at least be fun,

600
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: It should be entertaining and can provide some fireworks on

601
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: Sunday night.

602
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Speaker 4: Bucks three point favorites. This is the highest total of

603
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 4: the weekend. Fifty and a half is you're over under

604
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Speaker 4: and look at what Baker Mayfield has been. You know,

605
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 4: we got wrapped up in the Mike Evans Quest for

606
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: a thousand and everything. But McMillan's been fantastic, Bucky Irving

607
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 4: one of the great stories from a fantasy perspective, and

608
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 4: certainly overall Washington, Jaden Daniels and company. I just don't

609
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 4: do I just say I don't trust Cliff Kingsbury in

610
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Speaker 4: a big spot.

611
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Speaker 1: I don't trust their defense either. Yeah, I don't. I'm

612
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: with you there, Yeah, I gosh, it sounds like the Bucketeer.

613
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: I feel I feel a little like my money going

614
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Speaker 1: into Tampa Bay. I'm like, I don't know, but I

615
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: guess it probably ultimately side with them.

616
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Speaker 4: I do know that I'll be having many convert stations

617
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 4: about this towards the end of the week with my dad,

618
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: so I'm really gonna have to bone up on how

619
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 4: the individual it's this enlightening hockey.

620
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Speaker 1: Kah Man, all right, let's let's wrap it up. I

621
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: do want to recap with that convo Vikings Rams Monday

622
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: Night football to wrap up the wild card weekend.

623
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Speaker 4: Vikings on a letdown after a massive end of season game.

624
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 4: Now they do get the the extra day and it's

625
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: a Monday night game, the Rams coming off or resting everybody.

626
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 4: I just fear that the letdown for Donald and that

627
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 4: offense off of that red zone inefficiency, because everybody's good.

628
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 3: I mean, you've got both of you. I'm sure have

629
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: gone back through.

630
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Speaker 4: And seen the Wow, that was open?

631
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: That was open? How did he miss that? Read? What

632
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: is it? And it's all accelerated. Obviously Glenn did a

633
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: good job.

634
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 4: Of speeding up everything in Donald's head to where he

635
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: may have seen ghosts again old reference, but just wondering

636
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 4: if that kind of physicality, that kind of violence doesn't

637
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 4: have carryover effect into this game.

638
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: When I've counted them out, they've proved me wrong. I

639
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: do think that Sean McVay is onto something, and I

640
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: feel like he feels that if he puts his best

641
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: team out there that they will have a chance to

642
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: win fully healthy. I'm gonna go with Minnesota on this one,

643
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna buy into it. I know it's a

644
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: funky week you're on the road, but I'm gonna take

645
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,239
Speaker 1: Minnesota and believe in those fourteen wins and not just

646
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: what we saw on Sunday night.

647
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I also have to push in on Sam Donald

648
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: because otherwise the conversation that I'll have to have with

649
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 3: Smith on Monday night will not be one I want

650
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: to have on Fox Sports Radio.

651
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, as a man who's still scarred from Sam Donald,

652
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 4: whether he wants to admit it or not, from those

653
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: days as it Yet you want to comment on, no, thanks,

654
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: just leave it in the past.

655
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: Do you root for Sam Donold?

656
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 6: I actually do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do, And I think I'm probably rooting for

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Speaker 5: the Vikings in this game, But I don't know. Like

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Speaker 5: O'Connell used to work under McVeigh, he was his offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 5: I wonder if McVeigh is gonna be ready for a

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Speaker 5: few things he has to throw at him.

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Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, I.

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Speaker 5: Think I'm with you, Dan, I think I think I

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Speaker 5: have the Vikings just because both offenses you expect to

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Speaker 5: be great. And then I'll definitely take the Vikings defense

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Speaker 5: over the Rams.

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Speaker 4: So because that was the thing this last week, I

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Speaker 4: mean against the Lions, the Vikings move the ball, they

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Speaker 4: just got greedy in the red zone afield.

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Speaker 6: They just couldn't finish it in the end in the

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Speaker 6: red zone.

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Speaker 3: Kick a field goal. It's okay, take the three.

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Speaker 4: Your defense plays well, and then if Van Ginkle again

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Speaker 4: doesn't drop the ball, maybe we have a tie game

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Speaker 4: and it plays out differently in those final seventeen minutes

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Speaker 4: or whatever the hell that would have been. But all

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Speaker 4: of that to say, I mean, fourteen and three is

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Speaker 4: fourteen and three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, eighteen of forty one is tough to cover up.

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Speaker 1: I think that was the final line for this. This

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Speaker 1: is true on Sunday night. But still, yeah, to your point,

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Speaker 1: you make a couple of plays here, a couple of

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Speaker 1: plays there, and Donald too, a couple of throws Jefferson

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Speaker 1: in the end zone and whatnot could have could have

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Speaker 1: been a different story. When you get in that avalanche

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Speaker 1: in Detroit and it just starts coming, you know, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That snowballed quickly and Jamior Gibbs suddenly was running free

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Speaker 4: without a lot of real contact on him, yes, right,

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Speaker 4: and bouncing off of guys where and running through guys

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Speaker 4: who at some point it seemed like they'd had their

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Speaker 4: spirit knocked out of them as well.

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Speaker 1: Well, what a way to end on to seventy two

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Speaker 1: with that. And now we've got the playoff, the playoffs

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Speaker 1: that actually think are underrated because we don't even look

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Speaker 1: at them. We always say, oh, Stanley Cup playoffs are

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Speaker 1: the best baseball in October, NBA playoffs, it's we don't

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Speaker 1: care about the regular season, but the NFL playoffs quick,

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Speaker 1: great games, great matchups, and then ultimately leading up to

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, which I think overshadows everything but should be fun.

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Speaker 1: The fun the next two two and a half weeks

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Speaker 1: or so in diving into all of this as we

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Speaker 1: we get closer and closer to the end.

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Speaker 4: But think about it, we get wild Card weekend, we

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Speaker 4: get the total of six games, and then we get

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Speaker 4: the two nights before, we get a couple of college games.

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Speaker 4: I think we're doing okay. Yes, one of the finest

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Speaker 4: weekends the year.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like, I don't know, we should be back

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Speaker 3: on holiday holiday.

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Speaker 1: You get Orange Bowl. I think we're going to get

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Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl on Friday. Weather in Texas. Could this

712
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Speaker 1: is true, some havoc with that. Playoffs on Saturday, playoffs

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, playoffs on Monday. And don't forget Mike the TGL, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Tiger Woods making Let's go, Yes, the new televised Golf League.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually looking forward to that, but that will be

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Speaker 1: for another day.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 4: We always love when our stars and superstars are still

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Speaker 4: out there and playing. And like I always say, at

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Speaker 4: fifty one, I need these guys to keep participating.

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Speaker 3: Yes, him and Rogers needs.

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Speaker 4: To sign somewhere, whether he's back with the Jets or

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Speaker 4: somewhere else. I need these guys to extend these careers.

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Speaker 4: Lebron Cyborg or whatever the hell you're doing, play another

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Speaker 4: five to seven years like you threatened to last week.

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Speaker 3: All of these things make me feel young.

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Speaker 1: Ian just coming off of his birthday twenty five. My

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Speaker 1: birthday will be coming up next week, so we don't

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Speaker 1: have to mention the number for that. So anyway, all right, Ian,

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Speaker 1: got anything before we wrap this up?

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Speaker 5: Just excited for some playoff football. I've missed it and

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Speaker 5: this is the It's nice to not have to worry

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Speaker 5: about the Jets anymore.

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Speaker 3: You know, I missed it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm free I don't have to worry about the

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Speaker 5: Jets every Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 6: It's just straight up good football from here on out.

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Speaker 1: Well, at least you guys have a top ten pick

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Speaker 1: to do with a mock draft. Like all my mock

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Speaker 1: drafts are eighteen, and it's just like, all right, there's

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Speaker 1: no fun in that because you have no idea at

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Speaker 1: least at seven or ten. When you're doing mock draft,

744
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: she's like, Okay, this realistic chance this guy could be here.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, you get down to.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen, it's just kind of like a crap. Shoot, all right,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm big into the draft, Dan, and it's

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Speaker 5: like this, this is the year though, to where like

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Speaker 5: if there was any year to where it just doesn't

751
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Speaker 5: really matter how high you're picking, it's probably this year

752
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Speaker 5: because the yeah, there aren't the quarterbacks. The consensus top player,

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Speaker 5: Travis Hunter is you know, kind of a tweeterer. We

754
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Speaker 5: don't really know what he's going to be playing. It's

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Speaker 5: you know, it's all up in the air.

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Speaker 1: Well, I saw Matt Miller tweet. He says that the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven draft could be the greatest draft that

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Speaker 1: he's ever seen, and that the twenty twenty six draft

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Speaker 1: of players is going to be really good. Not as

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Speaker 1: good as twenty twenty seven, but also not as good

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Speaker 1: as twenty twenty three. Here at twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Did Matt just tell us not to read any of

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Speaker 3: his stuff for the.

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Speaker 6: Next two years? Basically, twenty twenty seven is going to

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Speaker 6: be just wait for it.

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Speaker 4: Once we get into that, the draft, the nitty gritty

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Speaker 4: for that, it's gonna be great.

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Speaker 5: I know it's it's like comical, but like it really,

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Speaker 5: there were the true freshmen in college football this year.

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Speaker 6: We're on another level. It's gonna be insane in a

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Speaker 6: couple of years.

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Speaker 1: But well you could start searching. Hey in good news, Ian,

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Speaker 1: your Jets will probably be picking high in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 6: It's a safe bet. It's a safe bet.

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Speaker 3: All right, Let's get back to those petitions like Orlando

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Speaker 3: Pace and all those guys. Let's go to the pros

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Speaker 3: early baby.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Walter Football, I believe, yeah raft is

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Speaker 1: it draft countdown dot Com?

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Speaker 3: I yeah, Draft countdown dot count Sure.

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Speaker 1: They're twenty seven mock draft has Julian Sayan, the quarterback

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Speaker 1: at Ohio State, to transfer from Alabama last year. He

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Speaker 1: goes one to the Panthers. Wow, And Jeremiah Smith wide

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Speaker 1: receiver Ohio State goes two to the Commanders. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: they've had. Listen. Good news, Ian, your Jets take a

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Speaker 1: quarterback and DJ Lagway at number ten. Beast, Mike, you

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Speaker 1: get Colin Simmons rusher out of Texas.

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Speaker 3: Oh great at.

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Speaker 1: Number nine, and good news for me. The Seahawks don't

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs as they pick sixteen, and everybody always

791
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Speaker 1: mocks a tight end to them. Caleb Odom is their

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Speaker 1: tight end. That would be that's in this twenty twenty

793
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Speaker 1: seven mock draft right now. That is on Shane Hallum.

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Speaker 1: Let's give them credit if you're doing this work. Shane,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on the work at draftcountdown dot com.

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Speaker 4: Because if I go buy that jersey now, I have

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Speaker 4: it for three years before the gets to the podium.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Dylan Reyola sixth to the Giants, saying there it

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Speaker 1: is all right. Let's yeah, we'll wrap up with that.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with a review of the wild card weekend,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll look ahead to the divisional preview and

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Speaker 1: again our episodes will drop down to one time a

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Speaker 1: week starting next week. So for Mike Carbon and Ian Roddy,

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Speaker 1: I'm Dan Byer. We'll talk to you next time. Right

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Speaker 1: here on I want your flex