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Speaker 1: your twenty four seventh home of the Black and Gold

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive. I am

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Speaker 1: Dale Walling, he is Matt Williamson, and we are the

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Speaker 1: tag team champions here on Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt,

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Speaker 1: there's a bunch of posts combine mock drafts coming out,

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Speaker 1: and what I wanted to talk about today is one

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Speaker 1: Lance zero Line did on the NFL dot Com. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Lance is also the main guy who who does a

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Speaker 1: lot of the write ups. He and Dan Hansis do

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Speaker 1: a lot of the write ups on the on the

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Speaker 1: NFL Combine, and so, um, I wanted to go through

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Speaker 1: what Lance saw and thought coming out. He put this

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Speaker 1: out mark. This is actually marked two point one because

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Speaker 1: he did he did one on Tuesday where he had

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Speaker 1: Atlanta trading number eight to Baltimore in exchange for Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson and the Ravens taking Will Levis. Well, now we

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Speaker 1: know he's got the non exclusive tag on him, so

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Speaker 1: now they can just signed him. So right, Yeah, Lands

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Speaker 1: just changed things up here a little bit, and so

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Speaker 1: at number one he's got Will Anderson, the edge rusher,

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Speaker 1: out of out of Alabama going to the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 1: He still has Yeah, are the Bears happy with all

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Speaker 1: this because maybe there's less action to get to one

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Speaker 1: if you can get Lamar kind of like you said

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Speaker 1: last segment, perhaps, I mean, I still think there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be teams want to do it. They'll be quarterback need

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Speaker 1: like O, the Houston Texans is going to really be

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Speaker 1: in the market to go get Lamar. No, I don't

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Speaker 1: think so either. I don't think so either, And only

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Speaker 1: one can land him. I mean, if he goes to Carolina, Atlanta, Washington, whatever,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean indies out of the market or the

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Speaker 1: other teams are out of the market to get the one.

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Speaker 1: In fact, what might happen here is if Lamar signs

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Speaker 1: somewhere else before the draft, Now, it drives up the

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Speaker 1: price for number one. I guess, I guess, Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense because there's you know, you're you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be in a situation where you're like, hey, we don't

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback for next year. So yeah, right at two,

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Speaker 1: as the Texans taking Bryce Young, sure three he has

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Speaker 1: the Raiders trading up with the Cardinals to get CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 1: do CJ. Stroud. No one's talking about Stroud, but I

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Speaker 1: think his stock's moving up a little bit too. He

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Speaker 1: threw the ball very very well, very well, extremely well.

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Speaker 1: I think he's the best. He's the best of the

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Speaker 1: passers to come out of Ohio State. And everybody looks

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Speaker 1: at those Ohio State quarterbacks as well, there, they're this,

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Speaker 1: They're that. A lot of them relied a lot on

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Speaker 1: their running ability. Obviously Dwayne Haskins did not. But I

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Speaker 1: think Stroud, just in terms of of of pure pocket passer,

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Speaker 1: is way better as a prospect in the other Ohio

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Speaker 1: State quarterbacks that have come out in recent years. I'm

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Speaker 1: very guilty of this, but I consistently cite as a

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Speaker 1: negative for Stroud the Ohio States never had a good

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. Basically, that's not his fault. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's put this way, Matt. People used to say that

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Speaker 1: now Pat Mahomes is there and it's like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: well everybody's bad except for this guy. Yeah, somebody's going

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Speaker 1: to break that mold. I would probably say Stroud is

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Speaker 1: I think he's solid and he's got he's got everything

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Speaker 1: he's big enough. He checks a lot of boxes. He

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Speaker 1: and this is something that you always have with those

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Speaker 1: made it easy for him. It is, it's much easier

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Speaker 1: for him than others than Levis. Yeah, right, if Levis

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Speaker 1: better for him this year, right, Yeah? So the Raiders

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Speaker 1: make that trade up the Coltsten take Anthony Richardson. So

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Speaker 1: people are saying Will Levis had a bad year this year.

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Speaker 1: Numbers were better than Anthony Richardson's. Oh yeah, growing the football.

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Speaker 1: they sign Lamar? Well, that's certainly good. Yeah, if so,

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Speaker 1: I really thought the top four had a lot more

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Speaker 1: take Devin Witherspoon, the cornerback out of Illinois, so I

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Speaker 1: chalky yeah. At nine, the Panthers end take Will Levis. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Panthers jerseys? Would you sell? A gazillion? A gazillion? Absolutely

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Speaker 1: um attend. The Eagles in take Christian Gonzale. It's the

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Speaker 1: shocker here from Lance. At fourteen, the Titans take Darnell Right,

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Speaker 1: It's certainly a need for them. I mean, I get it.

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Speaker 1: As sixteen. The Commanders then take Paris Johnson Junior, the

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Speaker 1: number one rated offensive tackle. Yeah, me too. I mean

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Speaker 1: he's got classic size, just everything that you want there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: workout was good. He's young, right, super long arms, so'll

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