1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. Are you ready 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, January eighteenth, twenty twenty two, Season seventeen, 8 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: episode number one hundred. Welcome to the latest edition of 9 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: The Break Life nest WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Nick, 10 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: there is no one hundred, but we didn't get a 11 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: ninety nine yesterday because we had other things to talk about, 12 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: So why don't you give me a ninety nine day 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: antin woods. There we go. I can't think of it. 14 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: That's about it. Like the only ninety nine I think 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: of is like a guy named Hervin McCormick. I remember 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: the name nineties was in the nineties. Yeah, it's about it, though, 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, there's been others, but I'm sure 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: there's some good ones. I don't don't. Chris Canty nine nine, Yeah, 19 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: Chris not as fun now, it's not as fun it's 20 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: lost it it's lost its mojost. I think we're at 21 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: zero zero. That's where we are, one hundred zero. Good 22 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: to know, just throwing it out there. I'm still smiling. Well, 23 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: we do have This is the final regular season show. 24 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: We will be moving to our off season schedule starting 25 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: next week. Actually is the last show we're gonna do 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: this week. And just you guys know, here's the schedule. 27 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: We got all the normal shows today at their normal times. 28 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: Tomorrow there will be a joint show which Nick will 29 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: be hosting UM and then on Thursday there will be 30 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: another joint show that day will be on but not 31 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: hosting Thursday. Have you not gotten the I was I 32 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: was taking Thursday off. But okay, we'll figure it out. 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: I didn't schedule. We talked about it. I didn't see it. 34 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: I told you what it was. This is think we 35 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: all said, like, now, this is this is very us. 36 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: This is very us. Dave, you do have a calendar 37 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: on that one, buddy, I'll figure it out. I really 38 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: just wanted to give Derek a hard time, Okay, good, yeah, 39 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: well that's fair. I can accept that. I just wanted 40 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: to make sure people were talking, So that's good. At 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: least somebody talk to you. So, yes, we will have 42 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: a joint show on Thursday. We'll have media mash on Wedndsay. 43 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: I think Nick right, so there'll be a media mash 44 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: on Wedndesay as well. And then next week we will 45 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: be flipping to our offseason schedule. You guys can catch 46 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: us every Wednesday at eleven thirty. We will be doing 47 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: our show from eleven thirty twelve thirty every Wednesday. And 48 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: so Dave will also be starting up the Draft Show. 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's already got some good ideas rolling on 50 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 1: that one. He's going to be hosting that this year. 51 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: So mister Dave will be taking my spot on that show. 52 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: That'll be happening on Tuesdays and Thursdays, I think at 53 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: ten am. So makes you that I will have the 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: full schedule up on the app. I'm sure William had 55 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: that up for you later this week. You'll be able 56 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: to see what all these shows are and the schedule 57 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: for them starting next week. All right, let's jump in. 58 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: There were a few topics that we didn't get to 59 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: yesterday about the game that I still wanted to hit today. 60 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: I want to start first with the running game We 61 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: didn't get a lot of time on the running game yesterday, 62 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: although we kind of dabbled into it a little bit. 63 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: Yes Sunday, Zeke's twelve or thirty one yards. His long 64 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: was nine yards. He also had four targets and only 65 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: one catch for zero yards. Pollard, on the other hand, 66 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: had four carries for fourteen yards. His long was eight. 67 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: He had two targets and two catches for twelve yards. 68 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: My question is, why do you think they refused or 69 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: decided not to use Tony Pollard more in that game 70 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: than they did? Now? I don't know, it's a valid question. 71 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: Maybe we can one day ask a coach about it, 72 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: if they're ever available to talk to us after. Was 73 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: that ever discussed after the game? Was that a question 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: that ever got thrown out too? So, especially in COVID times, 75 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: Just to give you an idea, because it's fair, like 76 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: that's our job is to grill these guys, that's why 77 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: we're there. But like Nick spends the postgame talking to 78 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: anybody that's you know, Nick is the pool reporter for 79 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: anybody in the locker room that's not the coach or 80 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: a star. So they weren't playing along this week. Just 81 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: they were not case. You guys didn't notice Nick still 82 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: sore from all the stiff arms he took to the face, right, Um, 83 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: they should have used those in San Francisco. And then 84 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: Jerry's going simultaneously as so then there's a green room 85 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: where like your Zeke, you're a Marii Cooper, your big 86 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: name guys, they all go McCarthy, Dak and Mica get 87 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: the main podium. Jerry's talking in the middle of all 88 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: of all this. So the point is is like you're 89 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: kind of bouncing around. I did not get to talk 90 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: to Mike McCarthy this week. I honestly, I usually don't, 91 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: and so I didn't get to ask him about it. 92 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if he even was asked about it. Again, 93 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: with the way the game ended and all of the 94 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: other storylines, you kind of divvy that up and you're like, 95 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: okay that we can ask that Monday the wrap up. 96 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: There hasn't been a wrap up, and that is expected 97 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: sometime this week either tomorrow. They're expecting it. With the 98 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: amount of stuff that's in flux. You know, Kellen Morn 99 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: dan Quinn are both interviewing for other jobs. Like I 100 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: get I guess I get why they're doing that, But 101 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: it is just kind of frustrating to not have a 102 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: chance to follow up on that. I don't have a 103 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: wonderful answer for you. I will say in defense of them, 104 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: the offensive line got pancaked. They need I mean, Dak 105 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: was running for his life. He got sacked five times. 106 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: Zeke helped him out in pass protection quite a few times. 107 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: We've said that a lot. I know people get tired 108 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: of hearing it, but I do think that was a 109 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: big reason why he's on the field. Why he tripled 110 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: the number of carries as Tony Pollard, I don't know, 111 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 1: because you don't need to pass protect if you're running 112 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: the ball. Then Zeke comes out after the game and says, yeah, 113 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: I've had a torn PCL this whole time, partially torn. 114 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm just like, maybe the Tony's been hurt too, But 115 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm just like, maybe Tony ship touched the ball more often. 116 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: A lot of plays are run ass options, so you 117 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: know you have them out there, um, you know, and 118 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: Zeke's I mean they can't block. The offensive line couldn't block. 119 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: Zeke's gonna help more than Pollard will, obviously. Um, you know, 120 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: he blocked two guys on one play at one time, 121 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,119 Speaker 1: it was a great player. So I think that having 122 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: him out there, you know, it's like they can they 123 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: can actually do a little bit more things because they 124 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: feel comfortable if they needed to pass. They also can 125 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 1: can run the ball. You know, the results are about 126 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: the same. That's probably part of it. But yeah, I 127 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: mean Pollard could help when when you lose and you're 128 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: not running the ball, well, yeah, you want to get 129 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: your dynamic players out there. And you know, and that's 130 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: on Kellen too. I mean we've seen plays where they're 131 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: both out there, you know. I mean, why why is 132 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: it that they only are on the field together just 133 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: a couple of times. That's a that's a wrinkle that 134 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: we haven't seen in a while, I don't think. So 135 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: that's what I was about to mention, is the lack 136 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: of us seeing them use them both at the same time, 137 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: especially when we talk about the time position and how 138 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: you're missing someone that can actually help you block. When 139 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: you have a guy like Zike you can utilize in 140 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: that way, but also run the ball and keep him maybe, 141 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean you're not really as a defense, you're not 142 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: really going to expect Tony Pollard to the much blocking, 143 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: but it's another thing that you can at least try 144 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: and see how it goes. And that's an I don't know, 145 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: but to kind of what you hinted yesterday. And I 146 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: don't know if we were going to talk about that, 147 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: but is it time? Yeah, And I mean I'll set 148 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: it up for you. I mean what I was getting 149 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: to was, I think watching them this year, I think 150 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: there is a difference in how Tony Pollard runs the 151 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: ball and how Zeke runs the ball. I think he's 152 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: faster to the hole. I think he's quicker in and 153 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: out of the hole. I think he's more decisive. I 154 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: think he's more elusive. Obviously he's faster. I actually think 155 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: at this point he If I were making the decision, 156 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: I would actually have him taking the ball with the carries. 157 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean or at the very least, I 158 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: would be splitting carries between them. It seems as though 159 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: they're still in the mind frame that Zeke is the 160 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: lead back on this team. I would shift away from that. 161 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: I'd loved your opinions from you guys on whether you 162 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: think that what you saw this year makes you think 163 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: it's time to maybe start shifting that a little bit more. Well, 164 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: I mean, let's see what's up with Is he gonna 165 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: have knee surgery? I mean, that's that's what I want 166 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: to know, because before the season, you know, early in 167 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: the season, before I guess the injury, you know, I 168 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: thought what they were doing is fine. If you know, 169 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: if he legitimately has a partially torn PCL or whatever, 170 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: it's something that might need a little you know, either 171 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: surgery or or something, or even a lot of rest. 172 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm okay with maybe going back and seeing how this 173 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: thing plays out, because I think together both of them 174 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: were really good. And if I can get Zeke healthy again, 175 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: then I think it'd be better both of them healthy again. 176 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: You know, but didn't he say that supposedly he won't 177 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: need any kind of Yeah, but I don't believe damn 178 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: near anything I heard after that. I mean, first of all, 179 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: do you know for sure? Second of all, like maybe 180 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: you get an opinion on it later, Like the number 181 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: of guys that are just like, yeah, I know, it'll 182 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: be fine, it'll be good. And then I'll be, uh, 183 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'll be getting my oil changed in mid February, 184 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: and Adam Schefter will tweet that Zeke's having a Nisco 185 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: like cool, let me call Nick all right, I thought 186 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: he didn't be out. Yeah, I thought he didn't need 187 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: to do this also though, I mean like I'm fixing 188 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: the old line. I mean like a thousand percent. I mean, 189 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: I'm retooling all of that. I'm I probably have three 190 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: different starters across the board next year, some somehow, some way. 191 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: So I three three. I'm with you on that, Like, 192 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: I think that's your biggest problem. Where who's the third? 193 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: I think I think Lyle's probably or or or Lyell 194 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: is playing left guard for him right all year, I'm 195 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: doing something with those three positions. I gotta have a 196 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: new center for sure, and I got to have a 197 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: new left guard now, whether that left guard is moving 198 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: over from right tackle and and steel comes in whatever. 199 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: But you gotta be careful with that because you can't 200 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: trust timing right now. So you gotta you gotta almost 201 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: need the three. Um. I don't know if if Lyell's 202 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: is agile anymore as he as he was. I don't. 203 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: I don't think he is. I think he might be 204 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: a guard. He's mean, he's nasty, he's not as maybe 205 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: quick on his feet as he was. You know, maybe 206 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: maybe some push in the middle, and I think he 207 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: is physical enough where he might be able to give 208 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: me some pushing. Yeah, and I don't have that right now. 209 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: And if he's the enforcer like they say, and he is, 210 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he showed that role, but I think he 211 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: needs they But I got I'm fixing the offensive line 212 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: and you don't think because I think that's one thing, 213 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: and I think that's the biggest thing. I do think 214 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: from at least from what I saw, and it might 215 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: have everything to do with that PCL. It absolutely may 216 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: have everything to do with the PCL. It just didn't 217 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: look like Zeke at the same burst that I was 218 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: used to sing from Zeke and Polots looked like Polo 219 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: looked like he did have it. And that's where I'm like, 220 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: if if it's not the PCL, if we find out 221 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: that after this year, you go into next year and 222 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: it's the same thing. To me, I think you get 223 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: more out of it. That means that you can get 224 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: to the whole faster than what I think Zeke's going. 225 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: That matters. The offensive line needs to be worked on, 226 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: but I would like to see more of a fifty 227 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: fifty split. I think I still think the Cowboys still 228 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: seem to have this attitude that, like, Tony Pollard is 229 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: a nice backup instead of a weapon who needs to 230 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: be touching the ball more often. I'm looking at his 231 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: game logs right now. He had double digit carries one, two, three, four, five, six, 232 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: seven eight times, and six of those eight were blowout wins. 233 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: Like he's getting double digit carries in the second half 234 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: of games that are way out of hand. I think 235 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: the only time where he got double digit carries in 236 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: a game that was really in doubt, it happened three 237 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: times Vegas Patriots Chargers, and he played well. He had 238 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: a hundred yards against the Chargers, had average four yards 239 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: per carry against the Pats, and not so great against 240 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: Vegas ten for thirty six. But even still, like I 241 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: just feel like they still view him as a backup 242 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: instead of a guy who can really help them. I 243 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: would like to see it closer to fifty percent. Do 244 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: you think this is a nature of just NFL coaches, 245 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: NFL locker rooms. I was trying to think of a 246 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: situation across the NFL where you have a running back 247 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: that has been the man for you and he's still 248 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: on a team, but his role diminishes most of the time. 249 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: In that instance, you see the guy go on, the 250 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: team says, Okay, we're gonna let him walk, we're gonna 251 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a free agent, or we're gonna cut him, 252 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: or he's gonna get traded or something. It. I couldn't 253 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: really think of a lot of situations where a guy 254 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: has been the man, like he was the man here. 255 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: A guy has been the man, and it's just like now, 256 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: we think, right now there's a back that's better than you, 257 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: so we're going to decrease your role and increase their role. 258 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: Do you guys see that the same way or do 259 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: you think this is just kind of a just the 260 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: situation or more of a thing that just happens in 261 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: the NFL, they just don't necessarily do that when it 262 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: comes to lead running backs. Well, Tony Pollard hasn't come 263 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: in and just been like considerably better than z You know, 264 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: if he was, then that would be easier. I mean, 265 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: I think he's faster, he's quicker, and he's more explosive. 266 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: But I think that when you look at it, it's 267 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: like still close because Zeke can do some things, you know, 268 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: better than Pollard, and so it hasn't been heading shoulders 269 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: above and that's probably why it hasn't just been a 270 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: quick like we're switching this out, you know, I think, 271 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: but we don't know if he can be as successful 272 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: if given basically a bigger amount of snaps on the field. 273 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: I can only recall one game, was it last year 274 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: or maybe two years? I think it might have been 275 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: last year at where he was a starter and Zeke 276 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: was out. He didn't play again San Francisco, And now 277 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: he played, He played pretty good to the point where 278 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: everyone asking Zeke to sit. Yeah, for Tony Pollard to 279 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: take over that role. But it does make me wonder 280 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: on a weekly basis, is he the type of guy 281 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: that can be as successful being so much on the field. 282 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: Maybe right now we see him have those explosive plays 283 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: because of the way that they're handling, and that allows 284 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: him to be that effective on the field, But once 285 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: you give him a bigger role, can he keep up 286 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: with that? And I'll throw this in too, I think 287 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: he's a much better pass catcher at this point. I mean, 288 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: how many times we see Zeke out in the flat 289 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: and just ball hits his hands, he drops it or 290 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: for whatever reason it seems like he's not in the 291 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: right spot or I can't think. I can't go along 292 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: with that. And I think Tony Pollard deserves a larger role. 293 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: And I'm not asking him to carry the ball twenty times. 294 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm asking him to inch toward double digits. I don't 295 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: think he's done that his entire career. It's hovered between 296 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: six and eight. But Zeke, for whatever we want to 297 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: say about Zeke, he has been good as a receiver 298 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: this season in my opinion, and I'm not I am 299 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: not talking about like being explosive and all these big plays. 300 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: He's bailed Dak out a lot as like the holy crap, 301 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm about to get sacked. Let me get this out 302 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: of here. He did it on Sunday. I know he 303 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: bobbled the one on the last drive and didn't catch it, 304 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: but Dak, that was a good play. By the way, 305 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: it was gonna be a one yard loss, which one 306 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: maybe I'm thinking of a different play. There was like 307 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: a little screen that they threw to him that he 308 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: kind of one handed. It's been and that's what he's 309 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: been doing that all year. But what I was about 310 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: to say is Dak basically lateral to him on an 311 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: obvious sack and he turned it into like a small game. 312 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: He's done stuff like that all year, where he's just 313 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: had the wherewithal to catch a holy crap outlet pass 314 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: and turn a bad play into at least a neutral play, 315 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: if not a good one. So I think, and let's 316 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: not just give Tony all the flowers. Like Tony's had 317 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: some drops this year. I can't give you an an 318 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: obvious example, but I know there's at least been three 319 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: or four occasions where, especially like over the middle of 320 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: the field, he let it bounce off his hands. So 321 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: I think Tony Pollard deserves a bigger role. I think 322 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is a more explosive runner. I'm not convinced 323 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: he's like this outright better receiver. I do think if 324 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: you can get the ball in his hands, he's a 325 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: more explosive player. That's what I will say. You want 326 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: to talk about the elephant that's sitting over there, let's 327 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: go for it. I mean, it's about a thirty million 328 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: dollar elephant. I mean it's it's money is important in 329 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: this conversation. It's why you can't really move on. I mean, 330 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: you have you're stuck with Zeke, and I don't say 331 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: that in a way that like that is what it is, 332 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: but I mean, you're not moving him. So what I 333 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: think the best way to handle this situation is is 334 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: figure out a better role for Tony Pollard that both 335 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: of them can play. And I'm drafting a running back 336 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: as well in the fourth or fifth round, a bigger back, 337 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: not a little scat back, but a bigger back. And 338 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: if this guy comes in here with this retooled offensive line, 339 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: like I just said, and he may be better, then 340 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: that's what happens. I mean, maybe, I mean, I know, 341 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm going back of several years, but you know, they 342 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: drafted Marian Barber and they had Julius Jones already and 343 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: Maryan Barber after a few years turned out to be 344 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: after one year, it turned out to be we gotta 345 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: get this guy on the field, and maybe that happens. 346 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: Maybe you can strike gold, as we found out San 347 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: Francisco has, but it's because their offensive line knows how 348 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: to block in the running game. If I were the 349 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys offensive coordinator, whoever that is, maybe it's Kellen Moore, 350 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: maybe it's somebody new, but I would go to Tony 351 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: the minute that all that's finalized, and I would be like, 352 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: contract to your bud. You want a bigger role, you 353 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: want a chance to maximize your earnings this time next year, 354 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: get in there, get great at pass protection like arn, 355 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: learn this scheme, Learn where you're supposed to be all 356 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: the time. Get to where Dak trusts you implicitly on 357 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: third and nine, and make yourself interchangeable. Don't like, don't 358 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: make us have to feel like we need to take 359 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: you off the field in certain situations. And that's I 360 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: would love to see a true split between him and 361 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: Zeke next year. And I do think guy that I mean, 362 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: if if they draft a new guy, that's fine. He 363 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: bought a fourth rounder from me or whatever. And by 364 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: the way, keep him coming. Hey every couple years, bring 365 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: me a new one. I mean, but again, that's the same, 366 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: it'll be the same story, Like he can be the 367 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: kick return specialist. Speaking of missing the state, I think 368 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: the Packers drafted Kylin Hill late last year just like 369 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: great college running back. He was like their kickoff guy, 370 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, because it takes time, like Zeke is. Zeke 371 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: is a rare guy who came in and like had 372 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: all of that stuff and like I get it, it's 373 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: boring to talk about pass protection, but like, there aren't 374 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: that many running backs who teams trust to come in 375 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: and do everything right away. So Tony needs to take 376 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: a step in that regard. And then yeah, you can 377 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: have a rookie come in and handle kickoffs and playing 378 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: some blowouts or goal line packages whatever. But that's what 379 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: I would like to see. I'll say this, and I 380 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: went back and I looked it up, and here's why 381 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: I think what I think of him, and I agree 382 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: with you, Dave. If you look at the entire season, 383 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: Zeke's been a pretty good pass catcher. It's really been 384 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: the final six games of the season. Checked this out. 385 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: He had twenty targets in those final six games, he 386 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: only had eight catches. Of those twenty targets, most of 387 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: the games he had all except for one of those 388 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: games he only had one catch, and a lot of 389 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: those games he had And so when you start looking 390 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: at just how he's performed over the last six weeks, 391 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: that's been where I was like, he just hasn't given 392 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: them anything in the passing game. This last game he 393 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: had four targets and one catch for zero yards. Like 394 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 1: that's not helping Dak. That's not helping anybody in this offense. 395 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: Like I think that you get a little bit more, 396 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: and especially if you're talking about getting him out on 397 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: the outside catching passes, I think Pollard is more dangerous 398 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: in those situations and Zeke. Zeke isn't a guy that 399 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: necessarily makes people miss anymore. I want to be clear, 400 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: I don't view Zeke as a dangerous weapon in the 401 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: passing game. I would like to know. I would like 402 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: to go back and look at those games and see 403 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: how many of them are desperation passes to keep a 404 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: play alive, where Zeke's up here just trying to bobble 405 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: it and keep it in play like that. And that's 406 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: what he's been this year's He's been a last resort 407 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: in the passing game, like, oh god, they blitzed, this 408 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: is a hot read. Zeke, just just get two yards whatever, 409 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: We'll live to fight another day. Like that's been his 410 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: role in the passing game more often than not. And 411 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: I just feel like, like I want to say, I 412 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: want to say it happened against I feel like it 413 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 1: happened against either the Cardinals or somebody, Like I just 414 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: have these like mental images of Tony over the middle, 415 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: like dropping passes. And I'm not saying it happened a lot, 416 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: but it definitely happened. It was during a game where 417 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: a lot of them dropped the packs. Was gonna say, 418 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean the whole team dropped balls against Denver. That 419 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: might have been the one, because I mean I do 420 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 1: remember he over the middle dropping the pass, and like 421 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,239 Speaker 1: everyone dropped one that day. Tony no doubt would be 422 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: more dangerous in the passing game in terms of like 423 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: just get the ball in his hands and he'll do something. 424 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: And that's really my only point. It's not and that's 425 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: the hard pot about having these kinds of conversations. You 426 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: can quickly get painted as oh, you're against Zeke. It's 427 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: not that. It's that I think right now Pollard provides 428 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: more in the way of if he has. There was 429 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: a play this last week. It was a sweep where 430 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: where Zeke got the ball, he was running to the right. 431 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: They had it all blocked up. There was only one 432 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: guy out there that was unblocked. It was a defensive back. 433 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: There was a time when Zeke either runs that guy over, 434 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: he makes that guy missed. He didn't. And that's not 435 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: Zeke's game anymore, Like he if he has that one guy, 436 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: it's rare that we see him make that guy miss 437 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: at this point in his career. I do think poloit 438 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: makes that got missed. And that's my point. I think 439 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: Polo is more dangerous because he can do those kinds 440 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: of things that I'm just not saying regularly from Zeu 441 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: fun Live question here from our friend Jack, I appreciate it. 442 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: He says, what about Shiwo Illana Lua would he get 443 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: a chance next year? I I just want to bring 444 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: it up because I do want to say I really 445 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: think he makes the team if he stays healthy this 446 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: year and maybe like he's a running back fullback hybrid, 447 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: maybe Kellen could have done some fun stuff with him, 448 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: But he is in a big category of guys where 449 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's cool and you can come to training camp, 450 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: but like I'm not carving out a role for you. 451 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: In February of this year, you know, like like the 452 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: first thing Kyle Shanahan did when he signed in San Francisco, 453 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: his first signing was Kyle Juice Check. He was like, 454 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna do some fun stuff with you. This 455 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: ain't that well I mean, I also you got to 456 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: remember too, is you know all the running backs that 457 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: come back from neck injuries. I mean, good point. Yeah, 458 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: I'm pulling for him. That is a fair point. And 459 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: I have just learned how to say his name, so 460 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm I was excited about him. But um, we'll see, 461 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 1: We'll see how he comes back. But those are you know, 462 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: those are missed minor little storylines like do they win 463 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: the super Bowl because he's on the team. No, but 464 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: he was a fun player who could have done some 465 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: unique stuff that that might have unlocked some things for 466 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: Kellen's offense for sure. All right, let's take our first break. 467 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna talk a little bit 468 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: more about the about some of those jobs. I want 469 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: to talk about these wide receivers and how they've performed 470 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: in particularly Ceedee Lamb and what he's done, oh the 471 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 1: last few weeks. We'll talk about that we come back. 472 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio at ATNC. 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If 510 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: you're listening, you are the ultimate cowboy fan for sure. 511 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: Joined Dallas Cowboys United, presented by Global Life, starting at 512 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: just twenty dollars. Joined today. That was I'm sorry, I 513 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: just like Nick's read there like I just can't imagine 514 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: you listen to this show if you like kind of 515 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: like the Cowboys, right, you know, there's no way we 516 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: appreciate it a little bit, especially on a day like 517 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: today Tuesday, following a playoff loss. I got the funniest 518 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: tweet yesterday after you know, my little, my little speech 519 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: I tried to give. I do it the same thing 520 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: every year, This guy on Twitter wrote, he said, and 521 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: some people said thank you for saying that. I kind 522 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: of needed that, and some people are like probably like fo. 523 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: But anyways, this guy says, after time reflecting and speaking 524 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: with my family, my wife who hates when the Cowboys 525 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: are on, that's his family, he says, I have decided 526 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: to return for my senior season as a Cowboys fan. 527 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: I would like to thank Cowboys Break Nick Eatman for 528 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: talk taking me off the ledge with his speech. We 529 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: go Nino is the name there, so I love it. 530 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: Got like a like all these concerned for the season years, 531 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: all these college kids with the transfer pro I've decided 532 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: to I'm exit the transfer port roll. I'll stay here. 533 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: I believe in this team. Maybe a little bit like 534 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: that's funny, No, I mean it's but I also want 535 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: to reiterate too, like I understand. I mean it's oh yeah, 536 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: I I wasn't ready for it. I just I mean, 537 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: I got nothing for these guys, Like what are we 538 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: doing this week? I'm like, I don't know, preparing for 539 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: the Bucks? I mean, yeah, I thought we'd be writing yeah, rematch, Yeah, 540 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: rematch from week one? What's different this time around? Five 541 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: things that are different between the Bucks game? You know? Yeah, 542 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: but Nick, you were talking about you and I were 543 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: talking about that this this morning. They're really for us. 544 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: We've never played longer than this, like usually because the 545 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: NFL is going. But it's true, like when you say 546 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: when you say one week pass, like this is as 547 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: long as we've been in it. This is a this 548 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: is what our bodies know, Like our bodies know about 549 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: this time is when we're usually heading home at the 550 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: very best case scenarios. Wasn't I just wasn't prepared. I mean, 551 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: I honestly, I thought they'd beat San Francisco. I was 552 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: rooting for San Francisco. Feel bad about that, m especially 553 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: after watching them. Yeah but yeah, but like like I got, 554 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: I got a lot of messages last night that were like, 555 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: we we played this Cardinals team. I was like, you 556 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen if they play, Like 557 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: don't you don't but Cowboys three points, Cowboys don't have 558 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: Donald last time I checked. Yeah, well that's I mean 559 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: Shannon upstairs. Today, Shannon was like, looking at the schedule, 560 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: he goes some pretty good games next week. Too soon, 561 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: I would say. I we talked about that after the show. 562 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: You I don't. I mean, yeah, I wish the Cowboys 563 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: were still playing, but like if it's on, I'm watching. 564 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: I watched. I couldn't even watch most of that game. 565 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 1: I watched the whole thing. I just watched Eli and Peyton. 566 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: It's probably not in that order, but uh yeah. When 567 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: I saw Eli wearing that death Row Records chain, like 568 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: that was pretty funny. And I'll be out, I will 569 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: be front and center. This is this isn't gonna be 570 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: a fun weekend. Oh by the weekend, I'll be Okay. 571 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: Yesterday it was too soon. I couldn't do it. Man. 572 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: I was just because the whole quarter I sat there 573 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: and watched it. I'm thinking, man like, but Dallas at 574 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: their best, they could play with these teams. I just 575 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: they just can't always show up and play at there 576 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: but they don't. But here's here's the thing, though, anything 577 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: that happens in the NFC or even the AFC, because 578 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: they played one of those teams, Like, I don't think 579 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: you can watch any game next weekend and be like 580 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: Dallas could have beat them. They didn't show that they could. 581 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: They really didn't. They showed they could beat and they 582 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: could whip the Eagles and the Giants more than this 583 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: team beat them. But when it came to like good 584 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: on good, they didn't. They didn't show they could do that. Yeah, 585 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: maybe I'm just more forgiving, and I get it is 586 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: a results driven business and I mean moral victories all 587 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: that good stuff. But like they played the Bucks to 588 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: the final snap, They played the Niners to the final snap. 589 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: They could they played a they were competitive against the Chiefs. 590 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: They didn't look great doing it, but like they didn't 591 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: look like they didn't belong on that field. But you 592 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: know that. I think that's the point though, Dave, the 593 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: way I look at it is and they did with 594 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: with Arizona. They played to the last snap. And guess 595 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 1: what in the playoffs in that first round against San 596 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: Francisco they played to the final snap. Well, it wasn't 597 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: quite a snap, but they played to the final snap 598 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: like they're good enough. They are good enough to play 599 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: with any team in the league. They're not necessarily good 600 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: enough to beat those Yea, I think different. I think 601 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: we're saying the same thing. Yeah, no way, since yesterday. Oh, 602 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: trust me, I haven't. I haven't. I'm well, your mood 603 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: is completely different than yesterday. Yesterday we should have had 604 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: a camera just recording Dave all day long. Yesterday. I 605 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: I was, I'm I'm still, I'm still pretty bitter, to 606 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I'm just yeah, you know, it's 607 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: most interesting about that. I remember when Day first got here, 608 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: he was so emotionally detached from this team, Like it 609 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: was just kind of like you were very much. I'm 610 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: a media guy, Like, I don't. I don't get here 611 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: in the thing, and if we want to do this, 612 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: we can't. Like I'm not, I'm really not upset that 613 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: they lost a playoff game. I'm I'm upset and I 614 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: feel like I this is I feel like this is 615 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: how a lot of Cowboy fans feel. It's just it's 616 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: the hamster wheel of it all. It's like, I get you. 617 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: We did all of this, and like you know, it's like, uh, 618 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: you got, you got. You didn't get near the mountaintop. 619 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: But like, and that's even more frustrating, Like you got 620 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: back to the same mile marker on the mountain, then 621 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: you tumbled back down and you look around and we're like, 622 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: we gotta do this whole thing again. You literally look 623 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: back up at that mountain again and you're like, wow, 624 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: I came along, I've tumbled a long way. I went 625 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: up a long way. I tumbled a long way and 626 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't even at the top, and now I gotta 627 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: start climbing all over. Yeah, it's I mean, it sucks 628 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: that they lost, but like for me, it's not. It's 629 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: not the pain of the cowboys losing. It's the pain 630 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: of thinking, like I gotta start walking up the stam 631 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: mountain again. I don't really want right now, show here 632 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: we go. Yeah, all right, so let's talk about the 633 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: wide receivers again. It wasn't a great day for them 634 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: yesterday either, I guess holistically, if you think about it, 635 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: um ceedee Lamb only had one catch. My question for 636 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: you guys is do you think the challenges with the 637 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: wide receivers was more about what was happening with the 638 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: offensive line in the quarterback or do you think that 639 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: just they weren't getting open, they weren't creating opportunities for 640 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Yeah, I had to answer that. Somebody. Somebody 641 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: asked that question on Twitter he had one catch. Is 642 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: it Dax fault or is it Kellen's fault? And I 643 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: was like, I would put three people in that. UM. 644 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: I like him as a player a lot. I do. 645 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: I think he could be really good. I would probably 646 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: put CD as my most disappointing player of this team 647 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: this year if they Yeah, I know, Kean O'Neil's of 648 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: trendy picked there, but CD is probably the most disappointing 649 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: for me. Explaining that for me, ox Nardi was Randy Moss. 650 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: Randy Moss, and he was beating the guy that turned 651 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: out to be really good this year, Treyvon Diggs. He 652 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: was making play after play after play after play, and 653 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: he didn't do that this year. He really didn't. He 654 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: had he had some nice a thousand yards it's take 655 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: such sounds, I believe, but he didn't make those. I 656 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: don't have anywhere. I don't know where to throw it, 657 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna throw it up here and let 658 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: him go get it, and I thought he would be 659 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: even more dynamic going into the season. I think it was. 660 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: It was a close battle between Justin Jefferson and cd 661 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: On who's the better It's not right now, Yeah, and 662 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,479 Speaker 1: it's not like the Vikings were in the playoffs. You know, 663 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: I just don't think he took the next step that 664 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: I thought he was going to take. He still took 665 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: a step, but not as big as I thought he 666 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: would take. I don't know if I don't know if 667 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm willing to say he's the most disappointing player on 668 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: this team. But I'm glad you said it because I 669 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: was going to like what we saw in training camp. 670 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: Looked like a guy who was about to take over 671 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: the NFL. And yeah, and again he wasn't drumming on scrubs. 672 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: Raypon Digs led the league in interceptions. I don't get 673 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: that's cool that he gave up yards. I get it, 674 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: but like he was doing it against pretty solid cornerback play, 675 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: and he just looked different. And he had some nice games. 676 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: I mean, his game against New England was fantastic. Both 677 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: of his touchdowns in that game were huge. But yeah, 678 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: it's I was expecting more. To be honest, he had. 679 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: He had five more catches and two hundred more yards 680 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: than he did as a rookie, and that was playing 681 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: without Dak for most of the year. I just I thought, yeah, 682 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: I thought we were going to see a Justin Jefferson 683 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: like season. I think I said that yesterday, like all 684 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, we joked for a solid year, 685 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: like I can't believe the league let us have this guy, 686 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: and the guy taken five or six picks later is 687 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: better than him by a pretty significant margin. Right now, 688 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 1: that's just facts. I think that's all. You think a 689 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: lot of that is on him, or do you think again, 690 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: this is this goes back to the quarterback and him 691 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: not having and even him not having time, so it 692 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: still goes back to our original conversation the offensive line. 693 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: I think there's a big chunk that's on him because 694 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: I keep trying to make sense of it all, and 695 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: I keep thinking, I want to keep bringing myself to Okay, 696 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: the first half of the season, boat, when you look 697 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: at how they started the year, you were able to say, Okay, wow, 698 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: look at all the different weapons that they have, all 699 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: the talent that they have. I was wont to say 700 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: each position had one of the best ones in the NFL. 701 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: I would say that back then, and then looking at 702 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: it now, you start looking around the roster and you're like, okay, 703 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: you could argue Zeke with the injury. You could argue 704 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: Dak got injured and came back. There was the mental 705 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: aspect of things and things like that. Michael Gallup injured, 706 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: but then ceedee lamb. He stayed pretty healthy and he 707 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: didn't show talking about the abilities that you were mentioning, 708 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: those kind of abilities that you've seen him do even 709 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: last year when he started. So I don't know what 710 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: exactly to pinpoint there too, Okay, this is what happened 711 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: to him, and that's why he wasn't as successful. And yes, 712 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: obviously the old line is gonna have an effect, Dak 713 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: Prescott is gonna have an effect. But at the end 714 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: of the day, there were many plays too that the 715 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: ball could have been caught by him he didn't. And 716 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: that's the thing that you saw last year, how many 717 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: crazy plays and balls that he would catch. I don't 718 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: know where You're like, whoa And that made one of 719 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: the biggest highlights for his career. And then that was 720 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: all gone, So what do you give the blame to 721 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: other than just him and whatever? We might not know 722 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: that he's struggling with, but for sure we haven't heard 723 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: of any kind of injury that might have been affected him. Yeah, 724 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: you know. I was also trying to think too, like 725 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: we didn't see those plays that we saw on camp. 726 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: Did they even attempt it? Though? Good question? I mean, like, well, 727 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: but I think it's also I don't know if it's 728 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: it's I don't even I don't look at it open though. Yeah, 729 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: I have to be open for that. It's just first thing, 730 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: the goal in the floor thrown up. I get that, 731 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: but I would even ask the question further than that, 732 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 1: like that play it was a touchdown last year where 733 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: he contorted his body Minnesota, and the question becomes was 734 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: there as has there been a single catch like that 735 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: even this year. I'm not talking just to throw it up. 736 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking just to where he does something that's so remarkable, 737 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: where it's like his athleticism is so much better than 738 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: the guys that are out there trying to cover him. 739 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: I don't care about this conversation, to be very blunt 740 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: about it. No, no, no, I mean I'm taking it 741 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: in a different direction because I've been thinking about this 742 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: and I I don't know, maybe maybe I'm feeling a 743 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: little bit of a philosophy change or something like that. 744 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I still I still don't believe in 745 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: the idea of like being stubborn. But is the play 746 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: caller doing enough to force the issue to get the 747 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: ball into the hands of his good players? How many 748 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: times dolle targeted this last game, I'd barely remember. I 749 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: think I think he was close to I think he 750 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: was targeted five times, um, which is insane. Yeah, five 751 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: targets one catch. But like you look at you look 752 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: at the numbers. CD was targeted one hundred and twenty 753 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: times on the year. Uh, second best after that was 754 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz one hundred and four times, which, like, Dalton's great, 755 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: but should he be second on your team in targets, 756 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: like in terms of like trying to get the ball 757 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: to that guy? Then you go, then you go look 758 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 1: at Cooper. Do you know how many times Cooper Cup 759 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: got targeted this year? Probably one hundred and ninety one times, 760 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: Like they always threw the ball him and by the way, 761 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 1: he made something of it and all and like these 762 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: are on teams where there are other weapons, Like I 763 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: know he got hurt. If you extrapolate his numbers for 764 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: a full season, Robert Woods was on pace for eighty 765 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: five targets. Odell Beckham's only been there for half a season, 766 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 1: but if you extrapolate, he's on pace for sixty five. 767 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: They've got an athletic tight end as well. Tampa. Um, 768 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Chris Godwin and Mike Evans were both 769 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: targeted north of a hundred times. I'm just not convinced 770 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are making enough of an effort, like we're 771 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 1: getting the ball to our studs instead of go through 772 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: your progressions and if they're not open, then find the 773 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 1: other guy. Yeah, that's useful, don't get me wrong, But 774 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: there is an element of this thing where like you 775 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: gotta be like we are. We have guys that we 776 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: have brought here tell you that saybody, no, no, go ahead. 777 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I was just thinking, let's be careful now 778 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: because we did have that situation a couple of years ago. 779 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: I know, you know it can't be either, or I 780 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: know it can't be either, or you know we talked 781 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 1: about earlier in the year, Like the thing that's making 782 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: this thing work is that these receivers are mentioned together 783 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: and Dak doesn't care. He's gonna get it to whoever. 784 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: If it's nor Brown, it's nor Brown, which it probably 785 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: shouldn't be, but you know, so it's a great but 786 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: they staffs not doing that, and Stafford's like, I'm getting 787 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: the ball to Cooper Cup. They did it on Sunday. 788 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: I don't remember the exact moment in the game, but 789 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: like Cedric and Noah checked in in twelve personnel and 790 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: that was when Dak through probably his only truly deep 791 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 1: pass of the day. Well, I mean, the Amari touchdown 792 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: was only twenty yards I'm talking he threw it forty 793 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: yards down field. I think it was even in double coverage. 794 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, why are we doing this way? 795 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: Why are we doing this when Lamb and Cooper aren't 796 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: on the field, Like what why? Like it's great to 797 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: say we're gonna take what we're given, We're not gonna 798 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: change what we do based on what they're do, but 799 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: like you don't have to be willfully ignorant of it either, Like, hey, 800 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: maybe maybe our pro bowler in our first round pick 801 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: should be the guys that we're testing double coverage with 802 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,439 Speaker 1: or whatever. I just I think you got to find 803 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: a better balance there, Like you can't just be completely 804 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: stubborn and just be bound and determined all the time. 805 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: But I think you gotta make more of a concerted 806 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: effort to put the ball in your playmaker's hands. Yeah, 807 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it's real quick. I think that 808 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: we talk about it, and actually they talked about this 809 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: earlier in the season a lot. They were going to 810 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: aggressively take what the defense gave them. I think the 811 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: difference in that philosophy is you spend more passive recent Yeah. 812 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: I know, but but I would even say even from 813 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: that standpoint, you look at a team like we were 814 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: just talking about Cooper Cup, I think the difference is 815 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: what they do with the Rams, is they say not, 816 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: we're just not going to take aggressive of what you 817 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: give us. We're going to create ways that we can 818 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: get the ball into cups hands. The same thing with 819 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: San Francisco. We're going to create ways to get the 820 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 1: ball in Deebo's hands. By the way, everybody knows who's 821 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: playing San Francisco. Deebo at Samuels gonna get the ball. 822 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: We gotta stop Deebo Samuel. They still find ways, creative 823 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: ways to get the ball in his hands, and that 824 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 1: I think maybe the difference here is that Dallas is saying, hey, 825 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: we'll get it in Cedric Wilson's hands if he's the 826 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: guy that's open and we expect him to do the 827 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: things that Amari can do, instead of saying, no, Amar's 828 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: our best player or CD's our best player. We're gonna 829 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: find ways and create ways we can get them open 830 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: and get the ball in your hands and let them 831 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: do things right, which and I wanted to talk. I'm 832 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: glad you brought that up because I do think that's 833 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: a point worth talking about. And my friend Seth Kalina 834 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: for Pro Football Focus actually wrote a really great story 835 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: yesterday about Kellen's offense. You can go read it if 836 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: you want to. It's really interesting, just about like it 837 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: relies a lot on Dak to do everything and like 838 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: go through his progressions, whereas a lot of other coaches 839 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: scheme easy looks for their quarterback to get balls to guys, 840 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 1: and like there's this weird toxic attitude to where it's 841 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: like you can only be a good quarterback if like 842 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: you don't have a line and you make all the 843 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: progressions yourself, you know what I mean. It's like, well, 844 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: if Dak was great, he could overcome this off defensive 845 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: line killing him every down. It's like, why can you 846 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: only be good if life is really difficult? Like why, Like, 847 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: it's not it's not a bad thing for your coach 848 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: to scheme up easy throws to Amari Cooper for you, 849 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: and I just that hasn't been a thing enough for 850 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: this offense. I think I don't like comparing anybody to 851 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,959 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. I don't think that's fair. 852 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: They're never gonna He's never gonna be that, you know. 853 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 1: But you can see, especially for Brady, you can see 854 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: why he has played for so long. He is not 855 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: worried about the stats at all. He's he is not 856 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: worried about making all the best throws. There was that 857 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 1: one play we saw with Dak where all all season 858 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: he keeps saying, yeah, I got a little greedy there. 859 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: You don't have to get greedy. You take what's there 860 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: and keep going. It's first and twenty and Cooper is 861 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: gonna give you seven eight yards maybe if you break 862 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: a tackle and make more than that. But you trying 863 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: to throw the ball to blank Jarwin down the field. 864 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,919 Speaker 1: That's not your strength, and that's not his strength right 865 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: now in the middle of you know, in the middle 866 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: of him coming back and all that. I just don't 867 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: think that was a smart play. And now it's second 868 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: and twenty you're trying to get in field goal range. 869 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: And I just thought that was an example of somebody 870 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: like a Brady who's just like, Okay, you're gonna give 871 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: me that boom. I got it because I'm gonna do 872 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: another seven, and I'm gonna do another seven and I'm 873 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: gonna get a first down. And I just I think 874 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: that the greedy part of is is something we don't 875 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: talk about as much. And I wonder do you remember 876 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: from week from Week two against the Chargers, which was 877 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: a very penalty heavy game if you remember, not on 878 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: the level that we've seen in the second half of 879 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: the season, but there were a lot of flags in 880 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: that game. From there going to New England, they kept 881 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: getting out of those first and twenty situations, like they 882 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: would get a hold and then they would get it 883 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: back like instantly, and they did it pretty reliably for 884 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: like a month. Maybe that just gave him an inflated 885 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 1: sense of confident. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, yeah, we're getting 886 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: this back right here. Don't worry about we're getting twenty two. 887 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's first and twenty and that's 888 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: not a way to live. You get the feeling that 889 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: Dak is going to say something like in It won't 890 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: be the US, It'll be some like CBS Radio, a 891 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: serious interview or something where he'd be like, I was 892 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 1: never the same after the calf injury. It hurt me 893 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,479 Speaker 1: all year long. I was playing with you know, something 894 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: like that where you're like, honest. I don't think he'll 895 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: say that now. I think once he retires and he 896 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: looked back on his career, I think he will talk 897 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 1: about this season and say I wasn't right, because we 898 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: all see it. Like some of the things we see 899 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: from him, I've never we haven't seen Dak be, in 900 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: my opinion, be as inaccurate as he as he was 901 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: this year. So many times he doesn't talk about this season. 902 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope this isn't the season that he 903 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: talks well, he'll talk about it from a standpoint of 904 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: the question will be like, what was the season that 905 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: was most disappointing you, and I think, get you know, 906 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: Danny'll get into it. I honestly don't think. I don't think. 907 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't think Dak was himself this year for whatever reason. 908 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't know the reason. Only he knows the reason. 909 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: I don't think Dak was the same. I don't get 910 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: why he would be so defensive about it if that 911 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: was the case. You know, like he just refused to 912 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: eat because of his personality. He's that type of personality 913 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: where when you have those people that are extremely optimistic 914 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: and always thinking the positive, they will never let the 915 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: negative ever get into their mind, even if it might 916 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: be true. They never let it get into their mind 917 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: because it takes them away from their optimism. Yeah, well, 918 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: I was thinking of that, and like the injury aspect, 919 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, it would have been so much easier if 920 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: that was really the case, to just say, Okay, he 921 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: is struggling with because then you get people that are 922 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: like us or other people from the media looking at 923 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: it like, well, makes sense, he's struggling with this injury, 924 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: but he's out there battling through it and blah blah blah. 925 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: So because yesterday I was thinking of that random I'm like, Okay, 926 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: is this something that in the next few weeks we're 927 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: gonna hear like kind of like Zeke but we knew 928 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: about Zeke and we knew he was I don't but 929 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: something that came about with Dak. Oh yeah, he was 930 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: still dealing with that, and that's kind of what led 931 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: to his inaccuracy or the way that he was playing 932 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: and all that. But then at the same time, like 933 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: that would have been if that's the case, it would 934 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: have been great to be mentioned all throughout the season 935 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: because then you get a lot less heat for it. No, 936 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: but that's it's and I've been around the block enough 937 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 1: times and I don't want to put words in Dak's mouth, 938 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: but I could see that happening, or even if it doesn't. 939 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: That's it drives me crazy because like, and it doesn't 940 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: have to be Dak. So and so is struggling and struggling, 941 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: and we come on the show and we're like, he 942 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: looks like crap, he's struggling, And then so and so 943 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 1: is like a holes, like, hey, I've got a high 944 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: grade ankle sprain that nobody knows about, and this that 945 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,919 Speaker 1: and the other. I'm like, can you say it? Then 946 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 1: because otherwise, like I got nothing to go on, I 947 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: gotta just I'm I'm just watching the game and trying 948 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: to analyze it based on what I see. You hiding 949 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: it from me isn't helping anybody, yourself included, because people 950 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: will go easier on you if they know that you're 951 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,479 Speaker 1: banged up. But I want to be clear, I don't 952 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: know that I think that it was an injury or 953 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: he wasn't right physically from the standpoint if he was 954 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: still hurting, I know, I think it actually is, and 955 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you guys have 956 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: ever experienced this, but sometimes when you get an injury, 957 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: what tends to happen is you start you start overcompensating 958 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: for the area that was injured. Even once you're healthy, 959 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 1: you still overcompensate because you don't quite use it the 960 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: same way. You don't quite trust that muscle, that ligament, 961 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: You don't quite want to put the same torque on it, 962 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: and so it changes your mechanics a little bit on 963 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: how you do things. It happens when me running all 964 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: the time, like you, you just change up what you 965 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: do because you're trying to overcompensate for the pain that 966 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: you were feeling before, even though that pain may not 967 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: be there anymore. And I just wonder if some of 968 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: that stuff happened for Dak where he just wasn't the same, 969 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: It wasn't quite perfect the way it was before because 970 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: he was still overcompensating for my bone was sticking out 971 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: of my leg months ago, right, And I just I 972 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 1: just wonder, I don't know this, I just wonder if 973 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: maybe that was a situation hopefully not, because and that 974 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: makes me think of a guy like late in Vanderesh 975 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: and him with the times that he got injured. I mean, 976 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: every time he came back, he just seemed like worse 977 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 1: and worse. And I don't think that it was necessarily 978 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: a physical thing. It was more well, yeah, a combination 979 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 1: of it. But at the same time maybe mentally where 980 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: he's like not playing or hard throwing himself to tackle 981 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,399 Speaker 1: as hard because of his mind he's gonna get hurt 982 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: again in his neck and this and that. So I 983 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: don't know, hopefully it's not that, because it could lean 984 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 1: melt into like next year and the years to come. 985 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: I don't know. I would I would probably think this year, 986 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: I would guess Dak is probably going to spend a 987 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: lot of time in the off season just work on 988 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: his fundamentals. That's what I would guess. Because we saw 989 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,959 Speaker 1: him a lot of times this year kind of throwing 990 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 1: off his back foot, I would probably guess this offseason 991 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna spend a lot of time working on footwork, 992 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: working on his fundamentals, the things he couldn't do last 993 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: year because he was rehabbing. He couldn't really work on 994 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: those things that you have to keep up on as 995 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 1: a quarterback. 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We don't have a few more minutes here. 1042 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: We're life from s WBC Morgage Studios at the start, 1043 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: So we're gonna take a phone call. We got a 1044 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: call from Lance and Shyene. Lance, what up, ladies, lady 1045 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, how y'all doing? God good good? Hey, we 1046 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 1: were talking about Kellen Moore and the way he directed 1047 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: the offense this year. Kellen Moore is the problem when 1048 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 1: you got Maury Cooper, which is the best route one 1049 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 1: on this team, and you don't even attempt to get 1050 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: to him. That's the first problem. CD is the next. 1051 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 1: I can't blame CD for not catching balls because we 1052 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: don't know how Kellen Moore is calling up the plates. 1053 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: So I'm leaving all this on basically Kellen Moore. What 1054 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: Garry Jones needs to do and step in. I'm not 1055 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: sure when McCartney was hired, if he was limited to 1056 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: what he could do, what could he not do with 1057 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 1: the coordinator? But I blame a lot of this on 1058 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: McCartney too, because he used to have stepped in when 1059 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 1: we stopped running. We need to run to set up 1060 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,280 Speaker 1: the path, and yes, our offensive line needs to be fixed. 1061 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,840 Speaker 1: But Kellen Moore is the problem, all right. We appreciate 1062 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 1: the problem too, that is the problem too, But Kellen 1063 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 1: Moore is the problem. All right. We appreciate the call, 1064 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 1: and I actually do think there is some truth to that. 1065 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,720 Speaker 1: I do think that it didn't seem like, at least 1066 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,800 Speaker 1: it didn't seem like they had a lot of answers 1067 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 1: for the issues that they had faced since the Denver game. 1068 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 1: Offensively didn't seem like they could quite find their groove 1069 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 1: find their way out of that. And that has to 1070 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,320 Speaker 1: be you have to give a lot of that to 1071 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator of having to figure that out. I 1072 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 1: don't like, and I'm not going to I don't like 1073 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: calling for people to be fired, and I'm not going 1074 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 1: to sit here and like call for Kellen More to 1075 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:21,320 Speaker 1: be fired. But it's two months of really mediocre offense 1076 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 1: and not getting results against quality opponents. And there's not 1077 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: a very long list of excuses. I mean, the offensive 1078 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 1: line wasn't good, but like everybody was available. They tried 1079 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 1: McGovern that didn't work. They put Connor Williams back in there, 1080 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: that didn't really work. You know, maybe they could have 1081 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: moved Lyle to guard like break glass in case of 1082 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 1: emergency whatever. I don't know, But there's not a long 1083 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: list of excuses. When you're like, well, why didn't this work? 1084 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: I mean, who am I wrong for thinking that? So, 1085 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm not calling for somebody to lose their job. 1086 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 1: But that is something that the Cowboys should look at 1087 00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: and consider, and it's concerning. Like I'm not as confident 1088 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,439 Speaker 1: in Kellen Moore as I was before the bye week 1089 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,479 Speaker 1: this season. I thought the call, I mean I thought 1090 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 1: I thought the caller was a tad bit hypocritical and 1091 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,839 Speaker 1: some of the things that he said of saying I'm 1092 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: not going to put it on Ceedee Lamb because I 1093 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,399 Speaker 1: don't know how the play calls are with Kellen Moore. 1094 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: But if you don't know how the play calls are, 1095 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: that you're you're also calling him the problem. I mean, 1096 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things we don't know. But as 1097 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: Davis pointed out, and then the caller pointed out to 1098 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: offensive line, Dak calling Moore, yeah, it's it's a big 1099 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 1: problem all the way around. Everybody has a say in this. 1100 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: I just know this. If you fix that offensive line, 1101 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 1: guys can run behind it and Dak can throw behind it. 1102 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 1: A rookie quarterback in the fourth round who shouldn't be 1103 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: starting is starting and succeeding and wins Rookie of the 1104 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 1: Year because the offensive line is awesome. This offensive line 1105 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 1: needs to get better. And then I think that's where 1106 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: it first started is because you can't change DAK and 1107 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 1: you can't change the not right now, So fix that 1108 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 1: and I will, and if Kellen Moore is here next year, 1109 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: I agree with Nick. I mean that that's just the 1110 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 1: easiest fix, because I don't agree with that part about 1111 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 1: like they needed to keep running it wasn't working, Like 1112 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 1: who what game did you see them play after the 1113 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 1: buye where you had confidence that they could run the 1114 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 1: ball when they needed to. I don't think. I don't 1115 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: think there was a game this year that pissed me 1116 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: off more than the Saints game, just in terms of 1117 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,840 Speaker 1: having to watch it, because they just kept stubbornly running 1118 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 1: and it didn't work. And ironically Tony scored on a 1119 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: sweep when they finally decided to go outside, but like 1120 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:43,359 Speaker 1: their bread and butter in between, the tackles sucked and 1121 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,360 Speaker 1: they wouldn't go away from it, and I wanted to scream. 1122 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: I hated that game plan so much, so I don't 1123 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,800 Speaker 1: think that is the right idea either. I think either 1124 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: either change the scheme or fix the offensive line so 1125 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: that this scheme can get back to work in the 1126 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 1: way that we saw it. All right, we appreciate you 1127 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: guys joining us. That's a rap. That's the final regular 1128 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 1: season show for the twenty twenty one season. We will 1129 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,879 Speaker 1: start next week on our offseason shows. We'll start talking 1130 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 1: about some big picture things like what's going to happen 1131 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 1: with these coaches, who are going to stick around, who 1132 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,800 Speaker 1: may be gone? Tot them for Nickiepan, Dave Helm and 1133 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: Amber Garcia. I am Derek Eagelton. This has been The 1134 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 1: Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has 1135 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,360 Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 1136 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.