WEBVTT - Drive Time: Julian Hill Interview and AFC East Preview

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<v Speaker 1>To on the Move, Golin, Deep Speedlins, Past Hell. From

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<v Speaker 1>the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. He's got my advans

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs. What is up Dolphins? And well done

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<v Speaker 1>to the Draft Time Podcast. I am your host, Travis Wingfield.

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<v Speaker 1>And on today's show, our final divisional preview of the summer.

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<v Speaker 1>That means that football is right around the corner and

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot wait. We're gonna talk about the Bills, the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Patriots very in depth. We'll sort of breeze

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<v Speaker 1>through your Miami Dolphins because we're gonna do two episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>one on the offense, one on the defense to finish

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<v Speaker 1>up the summer series. Plus my chat with Dolphins tight

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<v Speaker 1>end Julian Hill. From the Baptist Health Studios inside the

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<v Speaker 1>Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Drivetime Podcast. Hey Jaffir,

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<v Speaker 1>really quickly before we get going here. I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you probably listen to the show as well

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<v Speaker 1>that I did the show that kind of got me

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<v Speaker 1>into podcasting and football podcasting in general. Full transparency, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ashamed to admit this my first podcasts I ever

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<v Speaker 1>listened to was the Joe Rogan Experience back in twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is when it was twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I used to love the long form format of

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<v Speaker 1>those shows and just kind of bsing and shooting the

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<v Speaker 1>breeze with his friends and talking about random things. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he kind of became you know what he is now,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when the show to me was no longer

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<v Speaker 1>interesting putting Alex Jones in the podcast, like Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and get the hell away from this. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the jobs that I worked, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>many jobs I worked before football, I was in water

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<v Speaker 1>and fire restoration and smoke restoration, and I would drive

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<v Speaker 1>around the Yakamaw Valley in the state of Washington today

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<v Speaker 1>different sites, and I would estimate how much repairs would

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<v Speaker 1>cost for homes that were damaged by smoke, fire or water.

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<v Speaker 1>And so with all that driving, I needed something to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to that wasn't music, and I graduated towards podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bill Burr was one of the podcasts I first

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<v Speaker 1>started listening to. Two Bears, One Cave came in later

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<v Speaker 1>on down the line. I can't remember any of the

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<v Speaker 1>comedy podcast, but it was mostly football, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>really scouring for good national football podcasts, which you know

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<v Speaker 1>now it seems like they're kind of tough to get

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<v Speaker 1>because I just think it's really tough to cover three

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<v Speaker 1>to two teams on on a podcast every single day,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's hard to know enough about three two teams,

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<v Speaker 1>like I give you guys UDFA information, you can't know

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<v Speaker 1>that about thirty two teams. And there was like a

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<v Speaker 1>pro football weekly podcast that was inconsistent, and the one

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<v Speaker 1>that always stood out to me was the Around the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL podcast with Dan Hansis, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, and

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<v Speaker 1>the late Chris Westling, and it like annoyed me at first.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they talked about like their softball team, like

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<v Speaker 1>I found them in the summertime, so they were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doing what I'm doing right now, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>where's the football talk? And then the show continued on

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to know the hosts more and it

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<v Speaker 1>became like, you know, almost like Friends, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>Friends is a terrible show, quite frankly, but it became

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<v Speaker 1>like where you knew how Rachel was going to react,

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<v Speaker 1>you knew how Joy was going to react, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was what became the show, and there was so much

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<v Speaker 1>magic behind that, and in fact, they are the model

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<v Speaker 1>of what I tried to be as a podcaster in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of I want to be as informative as possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think there was two guys in the show

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<v Speaker 1>that could provide good football information, but they also had

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<v Speaker 1>the touch of mirth, and that's what the other two

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<v Speaker 1>guys came in, and that was what kind of brought

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<v Speaker 1>the whole show together. And it was in the top

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<v Speaker 1>ten and sports podcast downloads for a decade, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the reason behind it, but the NFL media

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<v Speaker 1>decided to cut it just cold turkey, like their last

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<v Speaker 1>episode was in May. It was six weeks ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>they just announced a new show that I just listened

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<v Speaker 1>to for the first time, NFL Daily, with only Rosenthal

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<v Speaker 1>as the host, and it just kind of has me

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<v Speaker 1>feeling melancholy, kind of having me reflective about my own

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<v Speaker 1>podcasting career and my media career. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm going with this, but it was a huge

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<v Speaker 1>inspiration to what you now hear, and it's now gone

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes me very, very sad. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to communicate that with you. And let you guys

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<v Speaker 1>know that one of my biggest inspirations behind podcasting is

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<v Speaker 1>no more. And that makes me like I have so

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<v Speaker 1>much nostalgia, Like I was in the Awkward Dad but

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<v Speaker 1>at the hospital listening to the Around the NFL podcast

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<v Speaker 1>when my daughter was born. I remember listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast on the flight to Hawaii for my wedding, the

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<v Speaker 1>entire trip down there, Like that podcast was a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of my life, my professional development, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>now no more. So very sad day. And speaking of sad,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the Buffalo Bills, and they're sad sex

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<v Speaker 1>So last year in the AFC East, they won the

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<v Speaker 1>division again because we couldn't take care of business down

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<v Speaker 1>the stretch with the same record as US at eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and six. They were a divisional round exit that year.

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<v Speaker 1>And I cannot forget my favorite moment in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>last year, probably above any Dolphins game, which and I've

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<v Speaker 1>always been like this, maybe you guys are too. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me know if you are or you are or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of like the suffering of our rivals even

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<v Speaker 1>more than our own success. Like as long as the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets exist, I think I'll be happy because they always

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<v Speaker 1>find ways to invent new ways to crush their fan base,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just really really like that with the Buffalo Bills.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of similar in terms of how they lose

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<v Speaker 1>games down the stretch, even though it's not as gratifying

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<v Speaker 1>because they make it further than us. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's right to be like, oh, you guys lost

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs, like, yeah, we were further than you though,

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<v Speaker 1>Like shut up, dude. So what I did like, though,

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<v Speaker 1>was that Broncos loss last year. That was probably the

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<v Speaker 1>best reaction I had. I woke up my kids. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not a good thing to do, but I woke up

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<v Speaker 1>my kids by yelling when they threw that flag and

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<v Speaker 1>the Broncos lined up again to run that kickback and

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<v Speaker 1>put it through the uprights to knock Buffalo to five

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<v Speaker 1>and five. We were six and three, knowing that they

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<v Speaker 1>had the Eagles, Chiefs and Cowboys coming up, and we

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<v Speaker 1>had the Raiders and the Jets and the Commanders and

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<v Speaker 1>Titans coming up. It just felt like a division clinching moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And I tweeted how the Dolphins hadn't lost to a

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<v Speaker 1>winning team or something to that effect. Because the Buffalo's

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<v Speaker 1>record had dropped to five and five, and the next

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<v Speaker 1>day in practice, walking back into the indoor, Mike White

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<v Speaker 1>calls me out and goes, hey, that was a great tweet.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was a really fun week for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>when the Bills in that game, the offense was sputtering

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<v Speaker 1>yet again, and I think it was it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the former quarterback content careaters. It was like Orlowski

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<v Speaker 1>or O'Sullivan or Chase Daniel. I forget who it is exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>but they said that the moment you have a player's

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<v Speaker 1>only meeting, you might as well call it a season

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<v Speaker 1>because it's done. It's over. But that wasn't the case

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<v Speaker 1>for Buffalo. They axed Ken Dorsey, they promoted Joe Brady,

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<v Speaker 1>installed a whole new offense, and they rolled the Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>They damn near pulled off that overtime win over the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 1>which after that one, you know, they're six and six,

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<v Speaker 1>they go into their buy. We improved the nine and

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<v Speaker 1>three by beating Washington, beating the absolute breaks off Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>But from there they beat the Chiefs by three, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was a game that I regret watching personally, rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for the Bills to win that game to help our

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<v Speaker 1>seating at the top of the AFC Conference. I probably

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<v Speaker 1>should have just taken the you know, the guaranteed division

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<v Speaker 1>title right there with a Buffalo win. Not that my

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<v Speaker 1>rooting had any impact on the game, but I recall

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about that very specifically. And then they roll the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a game we needed them to lose. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they escape East and stick and the Chargers. If they

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<v Speaker 1>just had lost that damn game, we would have clinch

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<v Speaker 1>the division on Christmas Eve. Then they beat the Patriots,

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<v Speaker 1>barely had to survive a late drive by the Patriots,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they beat us with the dam punt return

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the Steelers in the wild card round.

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<v Speaker 1>They roll up that team and then they lose to

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<v Speaker 1>Casey once again. Lots of turmoil, lots of perseverance. A

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<v Speaker 1>long article that I read that took me like a

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<v Speaker 1>full week to get through about Sean McDermott's ways, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think they kind of rallied around that article and

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<v Speaker 1>the galvanized the team. Lots of change in season, lots

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<v Speaker 1>of change offseason, which began with the trade of their

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<v Speaker 1>biggest star outside of their quarterback, quarterback in Stefon Diggs,

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<v Speaker 1>and that spawned a bunch of moves at wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>as they brought in Curtis Samuel, who I still think

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<v Speaker 1>can play ball if he's healthy. He's a really good player.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Collins, who's a special teams guy that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a fourth receiver, right Marquez Valdez Scantling has been

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<v Speaker 1>a fourth receiver's entire career, So that's who they brought

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<v Speaker 1>in to replace. Defon Diggs, no one's even closest Von

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<v Speaker 1>Diggs ability, especially not Keon Coleman, their second round draft pick, who,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, their entire draft strategy of let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and trade out of a spot where there's a

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<v Speaker 1>difference making player at a position we desperately need. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and give him to our biggest rival, a

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<v Speaker 1>team that we cannot be, and give Mahomes a vertical

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<v Speaker 1>threat that's probably going to be, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best in the NFL. Let's get out of that

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<v Speaker 1>and go get a guy that can't separate in Keon Coleman.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand it at all. This podcast might come

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<v Speaker 1>back to bite me when we if Keon Coleman goes

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<v Speaker 1>off against US. I don't get it from a process standpoint, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>another receiver that cannot separate. You already have like four

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<v Speaker 1>of those, so I didn't get that. Mitch Trubisky's the

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<v Speaker 1>new backup there, the old backup, and the new backup.

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<v Speaker 1>Will Clapp was brought in the center. They also brought

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<v Speaker 1>in Lyyl Collins, who I know Dolphins fans are going

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<v Speaker 1>to say, why can't we do that? Well, he hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been good in like four years. Just FYI defensive tackle

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Jackson. I like these defensive end moves. Casey two

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<v Speaker 1>Hill from Washington, Dwayne's moved from Jacksonville. Those guys are

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<v Speaker 1>both good players. To offset some losses they had there

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<v Speaker 1>as well, Linebacker Dion Jones has kind of had a

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<v Speaker 1>and down career, and then safety Mike Edwards's replacement for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of safeties they lost in both Micah Hyde

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<v Speaker 1>and Jordan Poyer, who I always thought were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that drove that defense. Mentioned Stefan Diggs's loss.

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<v Speaker 1>They also lose Mitch Morse, who was a stalwart, the

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<v Speaker 1>absolute anchor in the middle of their offensive line. Saran

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<v Speaker 1>Neil comes down here to join our special teams as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They lose Gabe Davis, who I thought was the same

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<v Speaker 1>issue they had with Keon Coleman, can't separate. They lose

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<v Speaker 1>poona Ford. Leonard Floyd is the loss that I'm most

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<v Speaker 1>excited about because he was a one on one winner.

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<v Speaker 1>He would beat one on ones anytime he gave it

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<v Speaker 1>to him, and the Bills find ways to create those

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<v Speaker 1>for him. He was a problem in their past rush plan.

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<v Speaker 1>He is no more in Buffalo. Dan Jackson has gone

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<v Speaker 1>to Carolina, Jordan Phillips goes to the Giants. Tim Settle

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<v Speaker 1>is also gone, and so is cornerback Trey Right Trey White.

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<v Speaker 1>What do they do well? I think they uncovered something

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<v Speaker 1>in the run game last year with James Cook, and

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<v Speaker 1>they do it with a lot of power lead trying

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<v Speaker 1>to lean on defensive lines to take them out of

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<v Speaker 1>their high octane rushes, which can of course be nega

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<v Speaker 1>by a quarterback that does so much to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>spoil good pass rush wins as well, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing I think they do the best is they put

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<v Speaker 1>a cape on the damn quarterback. I think the Bills

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<v Speaker 1>are a good football team, and they have been for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. But I think if you take Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 1>off of that team who I know. Dolphins fans love

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the giveaways and the interceptions, like Marino

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<v Speaker 1>threw a lot of picks to you guys, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was a great player, like Josh. Allen's a great freaking player.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, there is a I think Mahomes is in

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<v Speaker 1>his own class. I think Allen's in his own class.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a big drop off to the third

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<v Speaker 1>best quarterback in the NFL. I just think that's how

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<v Speaker 1>it is. He makes rushers miss unlike anybody we've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen before. And he's one of the most productive runners,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's designed runs or scrambles, and you just can't

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<v Speaker 1>hurt him, like you hit the guy and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get hurt. Last year, they made the OC change and

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<v Speaker 1>they went to this RPO read out the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the field attack, and it was very unnatural for Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>who's not a timing and rhythm thrower. He's not an

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<v Speaker 1>anticipatory thrower. He's not a spot thrower, like he does

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<v Speaker 1>not play that style of football. But he just keeps creating.

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<v Speaker 1>And when they go into those series long slim umps,

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<v Speaker 1>he was always the one with a scramble or a

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<v Speaker 1>scramble to a throw to pull them out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I talk a lot about how overrated creating as a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback is in this league. Josh Allen kind of transcends that,

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<v Speaker 1>like he is so good at it that you actually

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<v Speaker 1>can build an offense around it. But there's he's one

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<v Speaker 1>of one, so good luck trying to replicate that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I think it's so silly that so much quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>evaluation and scouting is based upon like, well, look at

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<v Speaker 1>what Josh Allen does. Okay, go, yeah, good, look at

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<v Speaker 1>what Michael Jordan did. Go find one of those. Go

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<v Speaker 1>look at what Lebron James did. Go find one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Those guys don't grow on trees. They are rare, rare breeds.

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<v Speaker 1>And to pat myself on the back, which is probably

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<v Speaker 1>annoying to you, like that's why I said he was

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of Wyoming. I remember watching that final year

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<v Speaker 1>at Wyoming and being like, this dude is a stud

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<v Speaker 1>and his stats sucked, and all my friends that were

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we were amateurs at the time, especially myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and those guys definitely not working in the NFL right now,

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<v Speaker 1>will always be like, well he was he was six

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<v Speaker 1>for fifteen and like, yeah, twelve of those not twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>eight of those misses were drop passes where with the

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<v Speaker 1>ball right in the money after escaping three pass rushers,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the tape was so good and that's who he's become.

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<v Speaker 1>The NFL. They also on defense, vary their coverages and

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<v Speaker 1>their pre snap presentations and play a good one gap

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<v Speaker 1>style that generates early pressure that forces the quarterback to

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<v Speaker 1>throw into these well constructed zones. They seem to know

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<v Speaker 1>where the hots are. They know how to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>crowd that area where you want to spam the field.

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<v Speaker 1>As an offensive designer, play designer, and they can create

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<v Speaker 1>pressure that forces you into throws into coverage and it

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<v Speaker 1>creates takeaways. Like Tua doesn't usually play his best ball

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<v Speaker 1>against Buffalo outside of the two games in twenty twenty two, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the concern or fatal flaw against the Buffalo Bills?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they have enough of the skill spots? I say

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<v Speaker 1>vehemently no. And I like Curtis Samuel, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>very highly of Keon Coleman. I like Khalil Shakur, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's Dalton king k is a good player. Dawson Knox

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<v Speaker 1>is a good player, and James Cook is a good player,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's like twentieth in the league at best. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's it was a big problem for the Bills last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Go watch the Bills tape. There was long drought, so

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<v Speaker 1>they just did not do much as an offense. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>one of these days, one of these hits talking about

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<v Speaker 1>fatal flaws is going to finally impact Josh Allen. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about with Seahawks fans all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>like Russell Wilson, when he loses his legs, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a sharp decline. And I was I took the

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<v Speaker 1>bullet on that take for a long time because Russell

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson's one of the best quarterbacks to ever play this

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<v Speaker 1>damn game. But the decline happened fast and he is now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on his third team in four years. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's that's what happens for Josh Allen every week. I

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<v Speaker 1>watch this dude absorb these insane, huge level of contact

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<v Speaker 1>saying insane huge hits and he just plays through it

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<v Speaker 1>and he gets up. I thought he had a was

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<v Speaker 1>it two years ago? I thought we had he was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get Tommy John But he like played the next week,

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<v Speaker 1>cool man like this guy is indestructible. What else is

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<v Speaker 1>a big flaw is don't discount the loss of Mitch Morse.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have a single offensive line miss a snap

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<v Speaker 1>last year. If that happens again, then like, okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>tip your cap to the luck the football lut gods. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna happen again. I they have a brand

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<v Speaker 1>new secondary Poyer and Hyde, where the communicators the Sean

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<v Speaker 1>McDermott on the field. I almost made a joke there about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, his distasteful nine to eleven content. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do that. Not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. Trey White's also gone, which he was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a shadow of himself, but he's also coming

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<v Speaker 1>off into Achilles' injury. But it's a lot of change there.

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<v Speaker 1>Rasull Douglas. I wish the Packers hadn't just given him

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<v Speaker 1>away to Buffalo because he became a really good cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>for them. Christian Benford has beaten out their first round

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<v Speaker 1>pick kyer Elam when he was a sixth round pick

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<v Speaker 1>that same year, and he's been a pretty good player

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<v Speaker 1>for them on the perimeter. And then Tarren Johnson's the

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the slot that makes it all go. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a new day with Mike Edwards and then Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>Rap I think of the guys that are gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>back there, and that to me is a sharp decline

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<v Speaker 1>from what you had in Hide and Bloyer, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you consider the mental reps they had together and that

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<v Speaker 1>chemistry they had in the back end. So interesting things

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<v Speaker 1>about Buffalo and some big storylines the post Digs era. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of consternation between Alan and Diggs,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, Josh is not the choir boy that

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of folks think he might be,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was some stuff that he was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's got the hate Steinfeld relationship, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of maybe not being faithful to his previous

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend prior to that, and there was some stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>was on his mind. And that Bengals lost a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago when Stefon Diggs blew up on him

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<v Speaker 1>on the sideline, and the last year in the playoff game,

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<v Speaker 1>they went dead again, So I think there was a

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<v Speaker 1>big issue there. I'm curious. So they come out of

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<v Speaker 1>that better. Sometimes you do come out of that better,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't replace a player like Stefon Diggs. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's a very interesting dynamic there between those two guys

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<v Speaker 1>and that team. How do they cobble together an offense

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<v Speaker 1>with a full offseason after sort of doing it in

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<v Speaker 1>season last year? There's no way they come back with

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<v Speaker 1>the same RPO attack, right, No way or will they?

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<v Speaker 1>That's all kind of Joe Brady knows. So I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>to see that. And then Bobby Babbage the first time DC.

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<v Speaker 1>I like him a lot as a leader and a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that can speak, you know, and communicate to his players.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll see what he can bring as an actual

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<v Speaker 1>defensive corner and last of that position was unfulfilled after

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<v Speaker 1>Leslie Fraser left in twenty twenty two. Some final roster thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>We kind of covered this, but receiver turnover, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest question I have. You kind of need Keon Coleman

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<v Speaker 1>to be a number one right away. They have a

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<v Speaker 1>nice collection of tackles, Dion Dawkins as a beast, spencer

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<v Speaker 1>rounds a plus player, and whatever they get from Lyle

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<v Speaker 1>Collins to me as a bonus. Then Connor McGovern inside

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<v Speaker 1>is a good replacement for Mitch Morse. Not as good,

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<v Speaker 1>but it gets them by and their guard position. Like

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<v Speaker 1>people talk about Osirius Torrance, who was not good last year.

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<v Speaker 1>He struggled a lot. He's in line to get one

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<v Speaker 1>of the jobs, and otherwise I don't know who the

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<v Speaker 1>other guards are gonna be. That's a kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>training camp question. Getting Matt Mulano back is massive. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>stoked that Leonard Floyd is gone between Smoot Rossoue Rossue Rousseau.

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't I say that Casey two hill aj Epines.

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<v Speaker 1>So they kind of need somebody else'll step up. But

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<v Speaker 1>still very solid inside with Daikwan Jones and at Oliver,

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<v Speaker 1>but they did lose their depth behind those guys with

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<v Speaker 1>both Phillips and Settle departing. Otherwise, what can they tell

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<v Speaker 1>about Miami Dolphins. I think the Bills went through the

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<v Speaker 1>offseason that you were sort of led to believe the

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins would undergo this cap opalypse that I guess he's

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<v Speaker 1>saying that there one year deals prevented the cap opilipse,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're like, yeah, that's what we were saying the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time. Bro, Both teams lost a lot of players,

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<v Speaker 1>but Miami was able to get a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 1>in where Buffalo did not. I think Miami got better

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<v Speaker 1>at some key spots. I think Buffalo will sort of

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<v Speaker 1>count on some guys incumbently taking the next step. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that a word? But I think the quarterback allows him

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of liberties because he is a special talent.

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<v Speaker 1>And that brings us to your Miami Dolphin. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>through this quickly here before the first break and before

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<v Speaker 1>it gets to Julian Hill eleven and six second in

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<v Speaker 1>the AFC East Wildcard loss to Kansas City. You know

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<v Speaker 1>about that nine and three start crushing loss the Titans

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<v Speaker 1>that would have seen the division wrapped up on Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>Eve if we just survived the final three damn neance

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<v Speaker 1>of that football game, the destruction at the hands of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens. Have banged up offense that couldn't do enough

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<v Speaker 1>against Buffalo with their few opportunities after Bill's long drives,

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<v Speaker 1>which I see he praise about the defense in that game, Like, nah, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills just turned the ball over in the red zone.

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<v Speaker 1>They had like four hundred and fifty yards in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>And then playing in a freezer against Mahomes and just

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<v Speaker 1>like that, the most fun season you has a Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>fan twenty plus years is over to combat that, bringing

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<v Speaker 1>in Odell Beckham, John new Smith love those additions so

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<v Speaker 1>so much, as you guys know. We'll talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>more on the podcast tomorrow, Sorry Thursday, Jack Driscoll, Kalais Campbell,

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<v Speaker 1>Neville Galimore, t R Tart, Benito Jones. Among the big

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<v Speaker 1>additions there Shack Barrett off the edge, Jordan Brooks and

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Walker at linebacker, Kendall Fuller a big, big ad

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<v Speaker 1>at the cornerback spot, and then Jordan Poyer, Marcus May

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<v Speaker 1>with our first round pick being Chop Robinson on the

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<v Speaker 1>way out. Like the end list to me is impressive,

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<v Speaker 1>especially like there's a couple of names here that I

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<v Speaker 1>think are big losses, but there was a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>imports I think are bigger gets as well. Cedric Wilson Junior,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Hunt, that's a big one to meet. Connor Williams

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<v Speaker 1>will see what his knee injury winds up being for

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<v Speaker 1>wherever he goes this year. Christian Wilkins and ray Kwon Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those guys is a fantastic football player. One

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys I thought was replacement level of the

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<v Speaker 1>entire time he was here. Andrew Van Ginkel loved his game.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a nice talent that we definitely got the

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<v Speaker 1>most of in five years. Xavian Howard and Brandon Jones

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<v Speaker 1>two guys that I thought had really rough twenty twenty threes.

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<v Speaker 1>What do they do well? What do we do well?

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<v Speaker 1>We marry the run and pass and play on time

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<v Speaker 1>better than any offense in football. We mix our options

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<v Speaker 1>in the offense to create ultimate conflict and force you

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<v Speaker 1>to defend the entire field. We stretch the field and

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<v Speaker 1>run concepts that forces the defense into pick your poison situations.

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<v Speaker 1>We bring way wave of rushers off the edge. What's

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<v Speaker 1>a better combination of JP, Chubb, Barrett and Chopps a foursome?

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<v Speaker 1>There isn't one, although, of course their injury status is

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<v Speaker 1>going into the year is a bit of a question.

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<v Speaker 1>Multiplicity on the back end and your two best corners

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<v Speaker 1>that can play in the slot. That opens up a

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<v Speaker 1>whole different world that literally no other team in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL has that benefit of Ramsey and Fuller and their

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<v Speaker 1>ability to play inside. You're gonna love watching what they

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<v Speaker 1>can do with coach Anthony Weaver. What's the concern or

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<v Speaker 1>fatal flaw though, are the exact same things you guys

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<v Speaker 1>know about matching physicality late in the season. Can they

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<v Speaker 1>push the pile on third and one? Can they stop

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Pacheco running game winning on the row when the

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<v Speaker 1>offense has to communicate through more hand signals and verbal

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<v Speaker 1>communication and get into the land scrimmage ahead of the

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<v Speaker 1>play clock and getting the playoff that's been an issue

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<v Speaker 1>for two years. And then the interior offensive line concerns me,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's a kind of a team principle. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, if you've got a pinchpennies, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>it usually happens. But you know, Williams and hunt out

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<v Speaker 1>for Brewer and driscoll. Is a pretty significant downgrade, which

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<v Speaker 1>we are all aware of interesting things about this team.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we get over the playoff drout? Can we get

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<v Speaker 1>over the hump? That would be a nice start here

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. A third straight dominant year from Tua.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that two years of dominance would kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shift the narrative. It hasn't for some reason, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it has, I don't know. Can Tyreek threaten team records

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<v Speaker 1>in his third season already? Can he get two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>yards or get close to it again, and how do

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<v Speaker 1>they better distribute the football to play teams that take

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<v Speaker 1>away ten to seventeen. You can't take away Hill and

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<v Speaker 1>Wall for a whole game. But having there were so

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<v Speaker 1>many situations last year where we just could not separate

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<v Speaker 1>from anybody else and it kind of cost us, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>series in possessions. Final roster thoughts yet again, a loaded

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<v Speaker 1>roster with talent and depth at the positions that most

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<v Speaker 1>correlate with winning. I think there's an absolute direction about

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<v Speaker 1>what this program needs and the team has been built accordingly.

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<v Speaker 1>What can we learn from the Dolphins about the Dolphins? Everything? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go ahead and take our first break

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<v Speaker 1>right there, come back on the other side and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>in my guest tight end Julian Hill. He was great

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you. That's next Draft Time Podcast to

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<v Speaker 1>your host, Travis Wingfield, brought to you by AutoNation. Joining

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<v Speaker 1>me now is Dolphins tight end and Hill here on

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<v Speaker 1>the Drive Time podcast. Julian. Welcome in man year two.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's got to be way different today than it

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<v Speaker 1>was a year ago this time.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, definitely, definitely, I think less stressful now. The stress

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<v Speaker 2>stress is still there, but you know, you just know

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<v Speaker 2>your way around the park now, So that's how I

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<v Speaker 2>like to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you know, you know which road to get

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<v Speaker 1>off of, like which exits you take, and did you

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<v Speaker 1>get all settled in your first Like how long is

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<v Speaker 1>it take to get settled in for a rookie in

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<v Speaker 1>the first year in terms of like your apartment or

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you're staying and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it takes an entire year, yeah, because every

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<v Speaker 2>week is new, whether it's an away game, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>a different phase of O t as, whether it's finding

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<v Speaker 2>your apartment, standing in the hotel, getting the car. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think every every week is new. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>its it took me an entire year. Yeah, that's sure

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<v Speaker 2>what most wikies can say the same.

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<v Speaker 1>So I I go multiple places. I'm just my fifth

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<v Speaker 1>year here. I go multiple places where I still have

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<v Speaker 1>on my my apps. Is my map app on my phone?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know where I'm going still? It's so

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<v Speaker 1>confusing down here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, I still use my maps as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time I go somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess so proud of myself on my find something

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<v Speaker 1>without using it. It's like all right, unlocked an accomplishment there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I was telling you before you got on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the air here that me, like so many other

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sports writers and podcasters, like we're in this

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<v Speaker 1>industry because we failed as athletes. And so for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always so fascinating to me to learn what you

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<v Speaker 1>guys go through in so many different ways and the

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<v Speaker 1>player like yourself, for instance, u dfa small school, probably

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of pop and in publicy out there

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<v Speaker 1>for you, but you come in hearing you grind and

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<v Speaker 1>you make the team. I'm just so curious to hear

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about the stress being less that fine line

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<v Speaker 1>of as a UDFA trying to make a team where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, if I make the team, I get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a certain a certain level of pay right that first year,

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<v Speaker 1>Versus if I don't, I gotta try to find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to get on a squad next year. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear from your experience what that entire experience

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<v Speaker 1>was like last year from unknown UDFA to tied end

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<v Speaker 1>for the Miami Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I always say, first and foremost, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta I gotta give that particular the journey itself. I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta go I gotta go gone right. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>put me in a great position. And also I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>give credit to my head coach from college, Mike Mintor.

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<v Speaker 2>He played in the NFL for ten years for one team.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hard to do. He played his entire career, and

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<v Speaker 2>the things he taught me. Being from a small school,

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<v Speaker 2>being from uh, like you said, there's there's not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of pop. It created a certain type of tenacity

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<v Speaker 2>within myself and a drive self motivating. So when I

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<v Speaker 2>got here last year, you know, I already knew I

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<v Speaker 2>was at the bottom of the depth chart.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was already proven, and they also drafted another tight

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<v Speaker 2>end as well, rookie, so I knew I had to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, look look within and find that that that

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<v Speaker 2>courage and that that bravery. I like to say, you

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<v Speaker 2>know a lot of people don't like to admit is

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<v Speaker 2>you got to be brave a lot of scenarios. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was not afraid to take that on. I made

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<v Speaker 2>it a goal of mine to whatever team took a

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<v Speaker 2>chance on me, if I'm not walking down the body

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<v Speaker 2>bag or getting carried off, I'm not coming out the

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<v Speaker 2>door literally on the field right right right. And that

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<v Speaker 2>was my mindset, and it propelled me to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm by where I was at by the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the season. And again I gotta give credit to

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<v Speaker 2>my position room Durham Smite. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>He led me very well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's another guy that's been on one team,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been here for so I'll be a fool not

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<v Speaker 2>to pick up game and pick up insight from him

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<v Speaker 2>and ask him questions and opposition coach coach Embo Man,

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<v Speaker 2>he coached some of the greatest.

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<v Speaker 3>Tight ends have ever played the game. It's crazy, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was always a sponge And again, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I was coming in as the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>the depth rock guy, but that never that never scared me.

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<v Speaker 2>It almost made me. I want to challenge myself for

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<v Speaker 2>you more. The competition. You know, I'm a big believer

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<v Speaker 2>that competition is a breather. Either gonna run or you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna You're gonna you know what I'm saying, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>stay in there.

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<v Speaker 3>So and it's totality.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, It definitely wasn't experienced and I'm grateful for it

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm still hungry.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still chasing a lot more.

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<v Speaker 1>So, absolutely Yeah, that's that's uh. I always that almost

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like it's like it's final, right, like you did it,

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<v Speaker 1>you made it, but like there's so much more left

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<v Speaker 1>in you football career. So I don't want to make

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<v Speaker 1>that sound like that. But I want to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to Durham smite because he is like a north Star, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like you go to that guy. He just knows everything,

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<v Speaker 1>like for a media guy like myself, Like I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Durham because he knows exactly what happened on

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<v Speaker 1>that play that I want to know about. Like we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about his experience and how valuable it's been to.

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<v Speaker 3>Here for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I said, man, he's been here is a

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<v Speaker 2>tire career.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't stress that enough. Like I saw last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, guys they come and they go and for a

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<v Speaker 2>guy to go through multiple coaching changes, for a guy

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<v Speaker 2>to uh, you know, come in and not be the

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<v Speaker 2>profound starter immediately and work his way up. Man, he's

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<v Speaker 2>he's a he's an open book. He's he's always willing

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<v Speaker 2>to put me on game as as we say, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think mostly man in his his work ethic,

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<v Speaker 2>it's little as you can't compare how he gets down

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<v Speaker 2>to a lot of people. So I see why, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's still in his building. I see why he's still

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<v Speaker 2>making plays. I see why he takes his job seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just grateful that, you know, he's one of my

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<v Speaker 2>leaders in that position room. He must be, he must

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<v Speaker 2>be pretty thrilled.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's getting in the same offense for the third

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<v Speaker 1>straight year because when early in his career he was

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<v Speaker 1>it was different oc every year, and that speaks to

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<v Speaker 1>his ability to be able to jump scheme like that

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<v Speaker 1>and be just as effective as he's been his entire career.

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<v Speaker 1>You also talked a little bit in that opening answer

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<v Speaker 1>just about you know, the process. I'm curious, was there

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<v Speaker 1>a moment where you were like, all right, I can

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<v Speaker 1>do this, or were you always of that mindset, or

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<v Speaker 1>was like a certain moment where it clicked for you

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<v Speaker 1>of just curious that entire rookie year. Was it like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, or there was just a moment where

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<v Speaker 1>you were like, I can do this, I can play it,

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<v Speaker 1>I can make this team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when we got the camp, once we got

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<v Speaker 2>the camp and how the playbooks started to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>make here. But it rapped up. But at the same

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<v Speaker 2>time it started to make a little bit more sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And as the season and the speed of the game

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<v Speaker 2>started to go, you know, in camp and we're playing

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<v Speaker 2>against other teams that will practice against other teams the

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<v Speaker 2>preseason games, after all those things started to granp up.

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<v Speaker 2>It put me in a mind state like, man, you

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<v Speaker 2>you can, because first, there's no way you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>able to step in that hood or if you don't

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 2>have confidence in yourself. Because if you don't have confidency yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you're gonna think the coaches or the players looking

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<v Speaker 2>at you're gonna have confidence there. So I realized that,

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:12.919
<v Speaker 2>and I realized, like, I have to take that on.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to believe in myself. And once I did, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it shot me up.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the cool things about your job last year

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<v Speaker 1>was all the jet motion going in Roussill formation and

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<v Speaker 1>picking off those those edge the force defender in the

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<v Speaker 1>running game. Was that something like pretty new to you,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't imagine you're doing a lot of that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, anywhere much less Campbell. But and then and

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<v Speaker 1>just like what was that fun? That's like a fun

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<v Speaker 1>role to to fulfill, isn't it definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Again I talked about my mindset, right, my mindset was

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they want me to I'm doing it as cliche

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<v Speaker 2>as that sound like, it was real for me, so

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't tell me, Yo, it's line up in the

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<v Speaker 2>backfield and just stand there. I'm gonna smile up in

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 2>the backfield and stand there. But it definitely was a

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 2>fun role. I love I love the physicality of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something that one of my favorite parts of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, like I said, I'm going to just do

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<v Speaker 2>my two said, that's all.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all this is.

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 2>It's a team game and I'm here to be available,

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<v Speaker 2>give my two cents, put my two sets in whenever

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<v Speaker 2>they need me, whatever they want me to do, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm gonna go hard at it.

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<v Speaker 1>What's fun to watch? Like I said, man, I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go ahead and jump forward to the season. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>get one more question for you. And it's just something

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that you focused on, particularly the soft season, because I know,

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<v Speaker 1>like rookie year, like coach talks about all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>like the rookie year is you go from All Star

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<v Speaker 1>Games to training for the Combiner for your Pro day.

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>It's it's you're working out for track events, and then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden you got to pull back to

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>football and it's prety many camps and that's OTAs and

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:32.120
<v Speaker 1>you get six weeks off and then it's training camp

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>and then like you just never get a breather. Right now,

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>you've had a chance to kind of step back and maybe,

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 1>like I compare a football to golf a lot like

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>work on your swing, right, Like you have a chance

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 1>to go back to the lab and kind of work

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>on your swing. What are some things you did this

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 1>off season to kind of get better?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the biggest statement was the details of

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 2>my position, whether that's in the run game, my footwork

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>in the run game, how I fail up on a defender,

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 2>not trying to you know, kill them all the time.

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 2>It's not a kill immediately, you have to you have

0:28:57.840 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 2>to block them before you kill them, right. Sure, So

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm up in the past game, just working on my

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>I coordination a little bit better and my focus and

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 2>being able to run routes a little bit better and

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 2>get more fluid in my mobility. So it's all every

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>part of the of a Titian's game. You know, I

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 2>really I really holed in on the details and at

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 2>the same time learning. You know, I played a lot

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 2>of time in the in the film room on the mistakes.

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 2>I watched Durham a lot last year. Again, he's a

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 2>top rated run blocker in the in the NFL. I'll

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>be a fool not too. And now we got John Knu,

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>one of the best yachting runners in the So you know,

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 2>I watched a lot of film on Kittle. You know,

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 2>he's one who's pristine in this particular offense. So yeah, man,

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 2>just the details of the game, details of my position,

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 2>and I'm ready to, you know, do what I need

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 2>to do for this team this year.

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Illed you one more question because you mentioned johnn It

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been working been like working with Johnny Smith.

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:44.479
<v Speaker 3>It's amazing.

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 2>He's he's a he's next to nine, you know what

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean. He's a great guy off the field. Me

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 2>he's a guy that you can come up to. And

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 2>he's again he's like Durham, he's an open book. So

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 2>I know, I heard a lot of the horror stories

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 2>of these vets that you know, don't really like the

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 2>young guys. But I've blessed and lucky enough to have

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 2>two great guys who put a lot of things on tape,

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 2>did a lot of stuff in this game for a

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 2>long time. And I'm just awesome and glad that I

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 2>get to see you to learn from them guys.

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>That kind of seems to be the case throughout the

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>whole building, right, Like they're so like they're nice, Like

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>everyone's nice to meet, Like you don't have to be

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>like you don't, but everyone's just so great.

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 3>I think it's because you're in Miami. Yeah. Nice.

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a little happily with the sunset, that's

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>for sure. Julian Hill, appreciate you, tied Ben, thank you,

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and away he goes. I love those stories about u

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>DFAs and like, to me, the stress of training camp

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 1>and trying to get your way up to cut down

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:36.479
<v Speaker 1>day and make the roster because of what it can

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 1>do in terms of your pocketbook for your futures, Like

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>if you don't make the team, you don't have guaranteed money,

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>but if you do, you're like guaranteed to be able

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>to continue playing professional football or pursuing it for a

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>few more years, because, like you know, a half million

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>dollars whatever it is can get you by it for

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>quite a while so that stuff fascinates me, and Julian

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>worked his butt off to earn that right to be

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>that player. Let's go ahead and take our last break

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>right there, come back on the other side and tell

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you how bad the Juts and Patriot. Sorry. That's next

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Draftime podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by

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<v Speaker 1>I don'tation. Two teams left to discuss on the All

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>thirty two summer preview series, and that the two teams

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 1>that I hate the most. Let's just be honest about it.

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I hate these teams. I especially hate this next one. Now,

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the latter team, the New England Patriots. Are you like me?

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Does that ever happen to you? The turboat team? Does

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>the success that was just so perpetual? Did it make

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>your hatred sort of regress a little bit? Like it's

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>almost like when you get to a point to where

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you realize, like this is never gonna happen for me,

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not good enough at this thing, or this

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>is like a too tough in an industry, Like rooting

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>against the Patriots to no avail every year just kind

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>of became futile and like my hatred almost turned to respect,

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>or like acceptance, maybe that certain stage of grief of acceptance,

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and now they're so bad. I don't really revel in

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>them bottoming out last year, did you. I don't know,

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>because this next team is the one that I love

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>to hate the most. I love that we beat him

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>by sixty four to thirteen aggregate last year. I hate

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 1>that we lost that game in New York on our

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>third string quarterback two years ago. I even hate in

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen and they got a free pass interference on

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Nick Needham that was not a pass interference to win

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>that game for him, even though we needed losses of

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the time. I just hate losing to the Jets. I

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>love when they have misery. And let's just go ahead

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and get into this. Snoll interjects some thoughts throughout this

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. So they're twenty twenty three recaps seven to ten,

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>third place in the AFC East, and it's like, have

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.959
<v Speaker 1>a normal season challenge for the New York Jets, right,

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>because the fact that they're getting these win totals with

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback production they've gotten the last couple of years

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>is honestly nothing short of a miracle for them. Four

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>snaps into the season and the guy they built a

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>shrine around, the guy that they gave full autonomy and

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>full power over every single decision in the organization, the

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>guy that they buckled out the knee for, the guy

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>that it was picked up on hard knocks. When Sala

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 1>had a point in the in the headset during a

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>preseason game, Rogers disagreed, and Slaw immediately was like, yeah,

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you're right. Like the whole construction of this idea of

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>getting Aaron Rodgers and their defensive coordinator showing them a

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.719
<v Speaker 1>clip of a not a routine throw, but not a

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 1>crazy throw in practice and being like, that's our guy,

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>that's our quarterback, that's our quarterback. Like we talked about

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots and Bill Belichick getting after Tom Brady even

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>when he was a you know, six time world champion.

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think this style of approach works. It didn't work,

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>And in fact, we need to cut the bs out

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>of the building, right, all that stuff, and then you're

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>like running a freaking campaign with brainworm guy, you know,

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Like I just I think that there's when you look

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 1>at this roster, I'm so all over the place right now.

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>There are so many things where you can look at

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>it and be like, this all makes sense, this all

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>tracks for a team that's gonna win games. But every

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>year you have to try to find the unique circumstances

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>to take you to the uncertained, uncertain, uncertain outcomes that

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get every single year in the national football Like,

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 1>take what you think you know right now? Half of

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>those things are going to be wrong. So when you

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.279
<v Speaker 1>look at the Jets on paper, everyone's gonna say ten

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>win team at least, but you have to try to

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 1>find the situations that will lead to the surprise outcome,

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>which is a surprise on paper, even though every year

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>we get sixteen surprise outcomes, right, like sixteen teams are

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 1>not who we thought they were going to be. And

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>with the Jets and the retention of Nathaniel Hackett, like,

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>did you guys watch that offensive structure last year? It

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>was awful with Rogers and everything that he puts the

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 1>team through. I don't know, man, I just I don't know.

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I do not know. Let's get back into the actual

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 1>meat and bones of this. You know, he's back and

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.839
<v Speaker 1>the guy that had to replace him four snaps into

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the season was the number two overall pick draft where

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 1>they blew that by not losing enough games to get

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence, and then they took the worst guy of

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>that entire draft class and his year last year goes

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>like he would have thought it was. I mean, he

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 1>can't play the position. And the reason why we don't

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 1>get excited about Pro day throws or a couple of

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>games here and there with some scramble, you know, offscript

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>throws like you have to see the field to play quarterback.

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 1>They do get that surprise opening day win over Buffalo,

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>lose the next three, win three straight, then lose five

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:29.320
<v Speaker 1>straight before destroying c. J. Stroud in the Houston Texans

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 1>only to get ran out of hard Rock Stadium, despite

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.359
<v Speaker 1>the fact that we were down to Ron Armstead, by

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the fact that we were down Tyreek Hill, despite the

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>fact that we were down Devon h Chan, despite the

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>fact that we were down Javon Holland and Xavier Howard

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 1>and our whole damn team was out, and we still

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>won that game by thirty points. And then they win

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>two of the final three games to finish seven to ten.

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>The tough part for them is how often do defenses

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 1>stay great. I've had this discussion on the podcast many times.

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Most great defenses give you two or three years. Sometimes

0:35:57.080 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 1>they give you a fourth. If that third year year

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:01.360
<v Speaker 1>is the most you're gonna get out of it, that

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>means this is the last ride. And in fact, their

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>entire offseason has been structured around the idea like this is,

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>we have to win this year, and of course they do.

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 1>For Joe Douglas, for Robert solid to be back, they

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>have to go to the playoffs this year. They just

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>have to make that happen. Here's the big moves. I

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>like what they did at tackle. They brought in Tyron Smith,

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>who is basically Toron Armstead in terms of his ability

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and his availability. Morgan Moses not as good, also has

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>some availability issues. He was there previously went to Baltimore,

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 1>played better now he's back. We'll see how that works out.

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 1>But their first round pick oloof for Shann who was

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>an absolute monster, an absolute stud, and they hit that

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>out of the park. They also brought in John Simpson

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>on the offensive line to play guard. They brought in

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Mike Williams, who's coming off was it an acl last year.

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I think late in the year that took his the

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>rest of his season a way. He's old and he

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 1>wasn't an explosive player as it was. He can win

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 1>a fifty to fifty ball, but we'll see about his availability.

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Quarterback Tyrod Taylor. That's the best WOAE they made all

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>off season was getting a good backup quarterback because I

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>think that Tyrod can take them to you know, eight

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>or nine wins. Leaky Foto the defensive tackle from Utah

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 1>that I liked a few years back. Javon kin Law,

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the former first round pick of the Niners that has

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>not worked out so far. Hassan Reddick was the big

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 1>addition on defense, but he doesn't want to be there

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>apparently like he hasn't showed up yet. Isaiah Oliver was

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>a big addition at the cornerback spot. On the way out.

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought this loss was bigger than any of the

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>additions they made this offseason, and maybe not Tyron Smith

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.879
<v Speaker 1>included in that. But Bryce Huff gave Austin Jackson more

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:24.839
<v Speaker 1>issues than anybody else he faced last year. Bryce Huff

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 1>is a hell of a football player. Why they let

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>him go is beyond me, although it's not because you

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 1>overpaid for other guys at the position, like drafting Will

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>McDonald the first round. You could us that pick somewhere

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>else and kept Bryce Huff. That was a big mistake

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion. They also lost John Frankly Myers is

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:41.919
<v Speaker 1>a good player. They also lost Karl Lawson, who didn't

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 1>play good for them, but he had success previously. Quentin

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Jefferson's a big loss. Jordan Whitehead was an up and

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 1>down player. He's gone, Zach Wilson and then Lake and

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Tomlinson the guard or they signed. It was kind of

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 1>a buzz of a freezer for them. What do they

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>do well? They have a number one receiver and a

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>bell cow back that allows them to find and isolate

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 1>matchups when they can, and a quarterback when he plays,

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 1>who sees the field as well as any quarterback to

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 1>ever do it. And that's more than they've had offensively

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>in a long long time. Right. This offense has been

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the Seattle Mariners to bring you, guys into my world,

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 1>the Mimy Dolphins of two thousand and nine, if they've

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>been that team for a long long time. I think

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line might be a strength after years of

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the converse. The tackle spot is almost impervious to attrition now, right,

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:22.879
<v Speaker 1>which is gonna have to be And you know because

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Smith and Moses are so banged up so often. But

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Olufashanu is he gonna like? I would play him opening

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 1>day personally, but we'll see what happens with that. But

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>he's a great third tackle, my god. I like Joel Tipman,

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I like Elijah Vera Tucker, but he misses more time

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 1>than he plays. So if they get all five of

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 1>those guys playing like, that's a good offensive line. But

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens come you know, October. I'm glad

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>we play this team in December with all the injury

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 1>player like the injury prone players, they have two games

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 1>in December. Is nice for them for that reason, although

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>we also get banged up a lot too. What else

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 1>they do well? They disrupt, impress, but they can also

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 1>get over aggressive and missed. Like think about two deep

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 1>balls to Waddle last year and won the Tyreege. That

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 1>was three game changing plays on their top two cornerbacks

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 1>last year. I mean, that's what happens. You have the

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:05.880
<v Speaker 1>best receivers in the league, but they get after most

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 1>other teams in that way, and that pairs so well

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:10.879
<v Speaker 1>with a one gap play on fire, get uphill and

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>go after the quarterback. In the running game, which is

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 1>also leads to a concern or fatal flaw, is they

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>don't defend the edges very well. And that's why an

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:19.880
<v Speaker 1>offense like ours, we always get big rips in the

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>running game off the edge. They have to find a

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 1>way to defend the entire field with that aggressive style.

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I think Miami gets them out of that better than

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>any other team in the National Football League. What's the

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>other concern, Oh, I don't know. A forty year old

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 1>quarterback who is the biggest distraction in the NFL, the

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 1>biggest sociopath in the NFL coming off an Achilles injury

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and the entire thing hinges on him. I wouldn't want

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 1>to count on that guy for all of that. I mean,

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 1>they told us as much in Hard Knocks. That's also

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of pieces on the team that fall into

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 1>that category. Tyron Smith, Mike Williams, Like, if all three

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:48.279
<v Speaker 1>of those guys are down, this team is back to

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.720
<v Speaker 1>winning five games again. Did they get better up front?

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they did. Franklin Myers and Jefferson and

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:55.879
<v Speaker 1>Huff is a massive part of what they've done. And

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Reddick is a no show. He didn't show up to

0:39:57.719 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Ota said, Will McDonald last year their first round pick

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 1>a healthy scratch at one point, so I think they

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 1>regress in that regard to some inariking things about their

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>biggest storylines. One of the more fascinating teams to me,

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 1>outside of my hatred for them, I could see him

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>winning eleven games if it all goes right, I could

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>see him winning five games. And a big reason for

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.800
<v Speaker 1>that floor is they didn't make a change in offensive

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 1>cornator despite the fact that there was absolutely no rhyme

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>or reason to the offense. If you say, well, Aaron

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Rodgers runs the offense, that's a problem, get it. We

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 1>got that right. It's a big problem for them. He's

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>been not good for a long time now, especially with

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Denver and now with the Jets, And how does this

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>team handle a slow star. If that happens, they have

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 1>a pretty easy schedule. I expect him to get blown

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>out and opening Day against the Niners, but then it's

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>like Titans and Patriots. So if they get off to

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 1>a two to one start, maybe it's gonna be okay.

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 1>But what if they lose one of those games and

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 1>things snowball? Because this team has not handled adversity. Will

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:46.880
<v Speaker 1>in the past. I don't think they will this year either.

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 1>And then Robert Sala, I think is a good coach.

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I think the minute he is let go, if that happens,

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 1>he'll be snatched up as a top DC. But the

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>results have not been there. So what happens to him

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 1>if they don't win this year, He's going to be gone.

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Final roster thoughts. If you get twenty twenty one Rogers,

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you are golden. Anything else? Who the hell knows? Man

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Garrett Wilson's a baller, but he's not been able to

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>carry the offense. Jalen Ramsey blanked him in the game

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>down here, and beyond Mike Williams, it gets thin very fast.

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I like the linebackers and Quincy Williams and CJ. Moseley

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 1>probably the best off ball combo in the conference. It

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>all looks good on paper, but we know teams don't

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:23.800
<v Speaker 1>win games on paper, and there's just seemingly always something

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 1>there with this team. And I think that quarterback distraction

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 1>potential is a very real thing. What can they tell

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 1>us about the Miami Dolphins, Well, they're a good study

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.799
<v Speaker 1>on the all in philosophy, because while it might be

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 1>great this year, what the hell does twenty twenty five

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>look like for the New York Jets. It's gonna be

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>right back to where they always are, in the basement

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 1>in the AFC East. The Patriots four and thirteen and

0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>fourth place last year. How weird is it to have

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 1>them in the cellar? They played us in Philly tight early,

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and I guess that was impressive. I guess. Then they

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>get a win over the Jets, and then the Wheels

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 1>came off three straight losses, two blowouts. They get that

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 1>surprise win over Buffaloe of my favorite games of the

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.080
<v Speaker 1>year as well, where the offense came to life, and

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 1>then it was right back to the same ole lose

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 1>the next five games. It was so weird to see

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.879
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots at two and ten and they win two

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:08.240
<v Speaker 1>of the final five to finish their lowest win total

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 1>in thirty one years. Pretty crazy. Plenty of change here.

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Brady left in twenty twenty, now it's Belichick in twenty

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty four. They have the replacement for both of those guys,

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.839
<v Speaker 1>albeit take two at quarterback with Mac Jones not working out,

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and they are now here for the rookie seasons in

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Drake may and Gerrod Mayo. The big moves for them

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 1>at tackle. Chakuma okafor is going to replace Trent Brown.

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I suppose Antonio Gibson's in. They replay Zeke Elliott, Austin

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Hooper's there, Jacoby Brissette, Jake Briskett Big Slops is the

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback, or maybe he starts. I don't know what

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the plan is gonna be there. Hopefully he starts Week

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 1>four under they see him and Drake may kJ Osborne.

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I love his game. He's a nice number three receiver.

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Sioni Taki Takei a good linebacker for the Browns. And

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 1>then O'Shane Ximinez, a big addition off the edge on

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the way out. Staples Lawrence Guy was there forever, Adrian Phillips,

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:56.839
<v Speaker 1>Mac Jones, Trent Brown, Miles, Bryant Gasicki's on his third

0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>team in three years. Zeke Elliott and Mack Wilson exits

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>when they do well. This was a thing from the

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 1>old Guard, but I doubt it changes under Mayo. They

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.440
<v Speaker 1>play fundamentally sound, with a macro view on the situation.

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Defensively and force you into long drives. They tackle well,

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 1>they limit big plays, you know, force a twelve thirteen

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 1>play drive to score on them. This is all spearheaded

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 1>by talented defensive backs like Kyle Dugger, one of the

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 1>best safeties in the game. Christian Gonzalez is going to

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>be an absolute stud and then Jonathan Jones is very

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>good and for some reason does a great job on

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Cheetah every time he sees him. And then they know

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:28.839
<v Speaker 1>who they are. In the running game. They are a big,

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:31.880
<v Speaker 1>powerful offensive line. Although Trent Brown is gone Okafoor he

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.800
<v Speaker 1>places him Michael Unwino, one of the biggest people movers

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.479
<v Speaker 1>in the entire National Football League, and Cole Strange offers

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of everything alongside David Andrews has been

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 1>a great player for a long time for them. What's

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:45.399
<v Speaker 1>the concern or the fatal flaw for the New England Patriots. Well,

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:48.399
<v Speaker 1>they're not a good team yet. The obligatory quarterback rookie

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.000
<v Speaker 1>quarterback mentioned here, provided he starts the season. They had

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a long, long, long way to go at the skills spots.

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I like Javon Baker. I thought Pop Douglas was a

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:58.800
<v Speaker 1>great distion last year. I like kg Osborne, I like

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Polk, but measure this against other teams. They are

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 1>still a bottom five skill group. The calling card for

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 1>years was the ability to two gap and play light

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 1>boxes with lots of defensive backs in the field that

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:10.759
<v Speaker 1>could be versatile and mix and match. But a lot

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 1>of those guys have left, you know. I thought that

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 1>losing so many guys in the like and Adrian Phillips

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Frants this was a big part of that, and then

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence guy ap promtin is a big part of that,

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 1>though Christian Barmore and Devon Godshaw do a great job

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:24.760
<v Speaker 1>of this one gapping and helping or two gaping helping

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:27.760
<v Speaker 1>keep their linebackers clean. And then, like most teams, beyond

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:30.759
<v Speaker 1>the secondary starters, the depth is very very thin, and

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.319
<v Speaker 1>we saw that ravage them a season ago, especially in

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the games against US. Some interesting things about them, biggest storylines.

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Drake May had great junior tape, a bad senior tape,

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes those guys can be early hits. Josh Allen

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>and Justin Herbert are good examples of that, and Drake

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 1>May had the same issues with his surrounding cast in

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina completely going away that final year. He should

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 1>have come out two years ago. I guess he was

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>a third pick of the draft, so he made the

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>right decision Gerard Mayo first season post Belichick era. That

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 1>fascinates me. And then will it be personnel or will

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 1>it be secondary driven? How how close will this team

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 1>resemble the Belichick Patriots? I cannot wait to find out

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the answer to that this season. Some final roster thoughts.

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I liked their draft class a lot and thought they

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 1>were smart to make some value additions in free agency.

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:14.319
<v Speaker 1>So many teams that are this far away will take

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the big swings and it might get them another win

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>or too early on, but a handcuffs them in the

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 1>long haul. I thought they were frugal and smart to

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 1>get bargain buys this offseason that can help their football team.

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 1>It's better at the skill spots. Has a long way

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to go. They have a quarterback to be excited about.

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:30.400
<v Speaker 1>He's got to learn and develop. He's got a lot

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 1>of physical traits, but it's tough that I like is

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 1>not there yet. The offensive line is good, not great,

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:37.879
<v Speaker 1>and the secondary looks prett damn good with a pass

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.719
<v Speaker 1>rush that should still be good. Judon back j Beck.

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Gonzalez's back had a lot of big pieces out last

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 1>year with injuries, and what can they tell USBOU the

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Miami Dolphins. We use this a lot lately. Totally different

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 1>team cycles, so not much my predictions on July fifteenth

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 1>right now, and these can change. I'm going Dolphins twelve

0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to thirteen wins. I think we're right back in the

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:01.000
<v Speaker 1>same mix we were last year. Buffalo going ten or eleven,

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>although I could convince myself to get to twelve. I

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>think they're still a very good football team. The Jets

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:07.800
<v Speaker 1>eight to nine wins and the Patriots six or seven

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 1>wins should be a competitive fun division. My division superlatives.

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen's the best quarterback. I know you don't want

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to hear that, but it's the truth. Best non quarterback

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 1>on offense is Tyreek Hill. I'm taking Jialen Ramsey as

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the best player on defense in the division over anybody

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:22.920
<v Speaker 1>on the Jets. I just think that Ramsey is a

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 1>different beast. The best coach to me is Mike McDaniel Olufashan,

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:27.920
<v Speaker 1>who is the top rookie. It was kind of an

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 1>easy choice there. It's pretty much the only guy that

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I you know, Drake May. I don't think it's gonna

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.480
<v Speaker 1>be as productive as a rookie. And my fantasy sleeper

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>is Malik Washington. Keep an eye out for him. All Right,

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>there you go. That's the end of the entire NFL

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 1>landscape starting on Thursday. It's back to all Dolphins Thursday

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 1>of the offense, Monday the defense, and then we're gonna

0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 1>have a Wednesday practice recap. Podcast. Training camp kicks off

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:53.400
<v Speaker 1>in just over a week. Make sure you're tuned in

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