1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Ron Ananians. Everybody thinks that this is such a glamorous 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: business that you're driven around in limousines and you know, 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: show for from here to there. Peck once your shows over. 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: If you're lucky, if you get a good boye what 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: they're given. Because I'm working for Live the Car Doctor. 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Looking how involved the automobile is in the economy, and 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: look at what it represents to the economy, and how 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: many people out there that own the Volkswagon will buy 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: another one. Again, Welcome to the radio home of ron 10 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: and Anian the Car Doctor. Since this is where car 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage to 14 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: orders are open, but I am here to take your 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: calls at eight five five and now he running. Hey, welcome, 16 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: start your engines. Want to eating in the Car Doctor 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: here at the helm at eight five five five six 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. That number again eight five 19 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero The Car 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: Doctor hot Line seven. 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It's 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,919 Speaker 1: a all hands on deck show this Labor Day weekend 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: here on the Car Doctor, and we're glad to have 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: everybody with us, and um, you know, just motoring on 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: along as we like to stay here at the Car 32 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: Doctor made some changes. We're not gonna have to get 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: into too much detail beyond podcasting at this point, but 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: just say that we can go to speaker dot com 35 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: now s p r E a k e R like 36 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Speaker with an R. Go to speaker dot com, new 37 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: website that is handling Car Doctor podcasting, also streaming their 38 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: law I've I think I want to bring Tom Ray up. Tom, 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: can I get you up to the microphone real quick? Um, 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: he's in the middle of seventy two different things, But 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: let me Tom. Is there anything the listeners need to 42 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: know if they want a podcast visa v uh speaker 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: Any changes from what we had. Well, uh, starting this week, 44 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a note up on our podcast page, 45 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: so the normal method will kind of be there, but 46 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: they'll be that they need to click on the link 47 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: and go to Speaker and pull it down and it's 48 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: real easy. They can play it right there, or they 49 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: can download it if they subscribe through uh through an 50 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: RSS reader, which will download the show automatically. They will 51 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: need to pull up the RSS feed off Speaker, but 52 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: I will have that included as our feed for this week. Okay, 53 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: so basically any questions they can go to speaker dot 54 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: com and sort it out from there. And and they're 55 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: also if they want to get out to My Heart 56 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: and look for Ron Andinny and or the car Doctor, 57 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: they'll find it there and that will send them over 58 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: to Speaker as well. Yes, and also the RSS feed 59 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: will also be a part of Google Play, so they 60 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: can still pull it up on Google Play. And what 61 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: about the people that are it tuners and you know, 62 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: for the folks that tune in, but I think Speaker 63 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: is going to send it over to them. Correct, Yes, iTunes, Uh, 64 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: the people who use iTunes can still use iTunes as 65 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: far as you know, the back door for us is 66 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: we tell speaker to send its iTunes and it's done 67 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: so for the for someone who's using that, it won't 68 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: shouldn't be a change. But it's almost like we're growing 69 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: not bad for a little radio show. Yeah yeah, yeah, 70 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, it's almost like we know what we're doing. Almost, 71 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: let's not get ahead of ourselves. Um, but anyway, thank 72 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: you tom So. Yeah, we made some changes, That's what 73 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: I was alluding to. And we're trying to we're trying 74 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: to streamline things and there's more changes to come, and 75 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: there's more things going on in the background. I was 76 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: thinking out loud, and I think that's the way I 77 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: started the comment up on Facebook running in of the 78 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: Car Doctor Facebook page, and and I think it's a 79 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: timely topic as we kick off this hour of the show, 80 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: in relation to what is the value of all to repair? 81 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: And I'm just concerned about it because goes I wonder, 82 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: how do you measure it? Do you the consumer measure 83 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: it by price? Do you measure it by speed? Do 84 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: you look at how clean the waiting room is and 85 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, are there shiny marble floors? And I guess too, 86 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: how determined you know? What is the value of what 87 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: to repair. It depends on. Are we talking about the 88 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: shop owner? Are we talking about the vehicle owner? Are 89 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: we talking about the people that ride in the vehicle? 90 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: Are we talking about you know who? And I'll tell 91 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: you what triggered this. Someone came into the shop this week, 92 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: late model Honda with a Honda Odyssey and it was 93 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: a normal routine seasonal checklist inspection in order and just 94 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: about sixty three tho miles on it. And typically at 95 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: that mileage, it's it's it's due for the stuff, right, 96 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: It's due for the fluids and the filters and all 97 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: the typical things that you see on a vehicle that's 98 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: five six years old at that mileage. And it's comment 99 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: about when I explained that, you know, it's due for 100 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: a cabin filter, it made it sound like he just 101 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: wasn't a fan of cabin filters, uh, you know, for 102 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: um the sense that it it he didn't like the 103 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: way the dealer sold cabin filters was exact words. He 104 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: thinks the way the dealer shells cabin filters is a scam. 105 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: He doesn't see a value in them, he doesn't understand 106 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: why they're in a car. And I said to myself, 107 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: and I say this here in all seriousness, I want 108 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: to know what somebody like that does for a living, 109 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: because I want to critique their job without really knowing 110 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: the job. Because I absolutely guarantee you unless you're a mechanic, 111 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: unless you do this day in day out, and I 112 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: don't care where you work. I don't care if you're 113 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: a dealer tech. I don't care if you' an indie tech. 114 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: I don't care if you work for the chain stores. 115 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: Unless you do this business each and every day, there's 116 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: just no way you're gonna understand it to the level 117 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: that you're gonna be competent enough to do what we 118 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: have to do and deal with on a consistent basis. 119 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: Just doesn't happen. You may be sneaking by on seventy 120 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: two monty Carlos and sixty eight Camaros, and and maybe 121 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: even some late eighties stuff, and maybe some early nineties 122 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: Buicks and Gms and Toyotas and things like that, but 123 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: you get into a vehicle, there's no way in heck. 124 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: One of the posts I put up last week on 125 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: Facebook talked about a power window problem on a two 126 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: thousand Toyota. A two thousand. Toyota Avalon had data bus 127 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: information eighteen years ago. I had to use a lab 128 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: scope to determine a lab scope. You hurt me, right. 129 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: I had to use a lab scope to determine signals 130 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: in and out and data packets and to look at 131 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: what was going on to figure out what was wrong 132 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: with it. And for those of you that saying, well, 133 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: just throw a switch at it, the windows switch was 134 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: six dollars a power windows switch for an eighteen year 135 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: old car. And what's the value of WoT to repair? 136 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: You know, this is a rocket ship business, it really is, 137 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: and it's growing more and more and more and more. 138 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: You can't judge this industry by what you knew, never 139 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: mind twenty years ago, or what your mom or dad 140 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: told you. You You have to judge. You can't even judge 141 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: by what you learned two weeks ago. It's different already 142 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: by the time I get back to the shop on Tuesday, 143 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: Labor Day weekend and all, it's going to be different again. 144 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: Something else will have changed. I read an article last 145 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: night somebody is talking about that within eight years, and 146 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: I saw this up on Facebook to somebody commented on 147 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: our Facebook page that within eight years they want to 148 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: do away with the internal combustion engine entirely across the board. 149 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, could they do it? Are we capable 150 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: of it? And there's there's so many things wrong with 151 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: that statement in terms of could we pull it off? 152 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: You know, can we make it happen? No more gasoline engines? 153 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: What will we do with the gas companies? What we 154 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: do with all the oil? Where would the economy go? 155 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: Where would you know? So many questions. What I come 156 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: back to is who's gonna fix that electric car? I've 157 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: got guys around me now that can't spell O B 158 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: D two and O B D two has been out 159 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: since and we're now going to hand them an electric vehicle, 160 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: something more complicated than the lunar rover that went to 161 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: the moon. Now I expect them to fix it. I 162 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: don't think we got the skill set. Another vehicle came 163 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: into the shop Lincoln and and and here's here's here's 164 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: that skill set commentary. It was in for service. Well, 165 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: this is the first time we're seeing an hundred five 166 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: thousand miles. He's becoming a regular customer. And it needed 167 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: the usual stuff to set attire some fluids. The front 168 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: brakes had been replaced by the dealer about seven months ago, 169 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: and they had done some other service work. One of 170 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: the concerns Charles had was that the front brakes or 171 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: something creaked in the wheels as you you know, you 172 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: pull up to a stop sign, you hear or just 173 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: something kind of creaked. It didn't sound right. I'm always 174 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: concerned about safety. I don't get I'm not too much 175 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: into say sounds and noises, and it's just the way 176 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: I am. I always look at safety first. So let's 177 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: start with the obvious. We we pulled apart the brakes 178 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: and the caliper slide pins. A caliper slide pin is 179 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: just what it says it's. It's a metal pin and 180 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: it's usually ensconced and rubber to protect it from the 181 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: elements or to support it. And it allows the brake 182 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: caliper the piece that grips the brake pad. Think of 183 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: your thumb and your four fingers, you know, grabbing the 184 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: brake pad against the rotor. That it keeps your your 185 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: hand moving, that it keeps the caliper sliding nice and easy. Well, 186 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: the tech that did it, and I have to say 187 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: it what it was, it was a dealer tech there's 188 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: four long rubber bushings are about a half inch long. 189 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: I guess the one rubber bushing was worn out because 190 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: he took a razor blade. He cut one bushing and 191 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: a half and he put one on each pin and 192 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: he used that and he kind of made rubber parts 193 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: and pieces car. You're in a dealership. You can't get 194 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: a caliper hardware kit. You can't get a caliper, you 195 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: can't get pin bushings. The same tech must have done 196 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: the spark plugs, because I was in the process of 197 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: doing spark plugs. The customer didn't think they were done, 198 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: and four of the six plugs came out by hand, 199 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: no ratchet, just you know, spark plug socket extension. And 200 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: I looked at Danny and I went, when I got 201 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: to the first two in the front bank, which are 202 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: easy to do, I looked at Danny and I went, 203 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: something's not right here. And I said, these plugs look 204 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,119 Speaker 1: like maybe they were done. They're not. They're not yesterday, 205 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: and they're not more than two years old. But how 206 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: do I trust the three plugs that are in the back. 207 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: I've got to take those out. To take those out, 208 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: I've got to take the intake planum off. If I'm 209 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: taking the intake planum off, I'm changing the plugs because 210 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how old they are, but four the 211 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: six plugs ended up being loose. The problem is, you know, 212 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: I can sit here and I can tell you all 213 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: the things that I see wrong and all the things 214 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: that I think of vehicle needs and the cost. You know, 215 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: workmanship is steering the repair industry in the wrong direction. 216 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: And I think before we make it any more complicated, 217 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: we've got to sort out what we wanted to be. 218 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: I just found out yesterday I'm gonna have to go 219 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: back to school again. And I say it like that 220 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna have to get hybrid certification to do 221 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: state inspections and repairs. So and and somebody I was 222 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: talking to yesterday explained to me that the hybrid test 223 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: for a s C L three is very vehicle specific, 224 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: to the point that are the batteries in the car 225 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: around or square? Now I don't know about you, but 226 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I need to know if the batteries 227 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: are around or square in order to plug in a 228 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: diagnostic connector and let the machine read codes or no 229 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: codes and tell me if the vehicle is ready for 230 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: inspection and put a sticker on the windshield maybe to 231 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: repair it. But I think that's got to be left 232 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: up to the individual shop owner. Based on how many 233 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: you see. Nobody seems to know what they want the 234 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: repair industry to bid accept cheap, fast, and accurate, and 235 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can do that. I don't 236 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: know if you can have that when you're working on 237 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: rocket ships, because sometimes when your rush, rocket ships go boom, 238 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: and sometimes when you when you put things out to 239 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: the lowest bidder, all you do is get cheap work 240 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: and poor workmanship and problems down the road. I'm just 241 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: thinking out loud. I'm just thinking that at the rate 242 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: we're going, technology is really pushing our buttons and driving 243 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: cars maybe in the wrong direction. But as I pointed 244 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: out last week, and I'll point it out again this week, 245 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's so much that good mechanics 246 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless, But understanding customers sure make the 247 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: trip that much easier. And I think you've got to 248 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: be more of an understanding customer and not assume you 249 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: know more than the mechanic. Sometimes you probably do. I've 250 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: seen what's out there, but if you find a good one, 251 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: hang onto him. Listen to what he or she has 252 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: to say. It's very important. Eight five five five zero 253 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: zero zero. Running the car doctor pulling over to the side. 254 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this flucom back. Weren't eating 255 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: the car doctor here A five five zero zero zero. 256 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: More information at car doctor show dot com. Let's get 257 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: over and talk to Jerry in New York two thousand 258 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: five Dodged Grand Caravan. Jerry, you're up first. How can 259 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: I help your Yes? Thank you? Ron. I called you 260 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: number weeks ago about an extended crank problem with an 261 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: O five Grand Caravan three eight, and you you suggested 262 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: that I checked the crank center and the throwal position 263 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: center to see if they're synchronized. I don't know if 264 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: that's if they're synchronized or not, but I eventually replaced 265 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: the fuel injectors. I solved the problem. Okay, um, you 266 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: replaced all six just on a whim or what leg 267 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: you in that direction? Jerry? Well, I was. I was 268 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: sure that the engine was running rich. When it did 269 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: fire up, it would misfire, especially on the cylinder number one. 270 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: He came up with multiple misfires, and I ordered that 271 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: I ordered to set on an eBay of rebuilt Simon's 272 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: and I put them in and I have not had 273 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: any extended prank since then, and that was this past Monday. Now, 274 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: let me let me point something out just for your 275 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: benefit for everyone else's or unless you did that. I 276 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: kind of remember this conversation. Had you checked fuel pressure 277 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: at any one particular point, yes, yes, And I could 278 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: not see any leakage, but that was I've been working 279 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: on this vehicle for a year. I've been driving and 280 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: working only for a year trying to solve the problem. 281 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: And I thought several times I had the problem solved. 282 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: But this time I'm quite sure that it's correct because 283 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: in theory, if you had a leaking injector, it would 284 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: not have held residual pressure when you if you left 285 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: the gauge on there after you shut it down. I understand, 286 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: I understand. I am probably check the pressure. You know, 287 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: those skill roils you have to spice into them. There's 288 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: no trader valve, and uh, I did not see any leakage, 289 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: but possibly there was a small amount. Right well, you 290 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: won't see it externally. If that injector is leaking. What 291 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: usually happens is the pintle that the injector itself leaks 292 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: internally and causes the fuel to bleed off and dump 293 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: into the cylinder, so you won't see it internally. All 294 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: I was trying to point out was just that, you know, 295 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: it's always good to look at at. Here's the bad, 296 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: here's the good. You know what it looks like on 297 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: both ends. The worst, the hardest thing in the world 298 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: and the worst thing we do is try to diagnose 299 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: a broken car we've never seen. And you know what's 300 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: good and what's bad, what looks right, what doesn't. And 301 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: that's why, you know, maybe next time just think about 302 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, put a fuel pressure gauge on there, turn 303 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: the key off after the engines running. How long does 304 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: it hold residual pressure? Yes? I did that, That's what 305 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: I meant that I did not noticed that the pressure 306 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: was falling. That's interesting, So then why would why would 307 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: go ahead? I'm sorry it could have the pressure could 308 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: have been lost overnight. The engine always fired up when 309 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: the when the temperature was cold here in New York, 310 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: the cold are outside, the faster it started. Okay, U 311 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: has the weather changed where you are in New York? 312 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: We've been uh, I've seen some ice already, some frost 313 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: one chilly morning. It fired up beautiful, right, but it 314 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: starts easier and cold weather. Correct, that was the symptom. 315 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: That was a part of the symptoms. Correct. And after 316 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: the engine was warm, and maybe I went inside the 317 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: store and came back out or stopped the McDonald's in 318 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: it crank crank, crank right under a hot subject is 319 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: when it right under a hot soak Because when it 320 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: had the problem and refreshment me and I knew, good ahead, 321 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, pardon me, that's all right, sir, good ahead, 322 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: No finish your thoughts, Jerry, And I knew, like I said, 323 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: I knew the engine was getting too much fuel for 324 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: some reason. I could smell it an exhaust. The exhaust 325 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: smelled rented. So just kind of a process of elimination. 326 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: After replacing this thing and that thing and lots of things, 327 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: I decided to go for a set of fuel injectors. 328 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: And she's been starting perfectly. Um. I'd be curious, just 329 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: again just being just trying to diagnose it. Um, had 330 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: you hooked a fuel pressure gage up to it to 331 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: drive around with to see what the fuel pressure would 332 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: have been when it went into the no start. No, 333 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: I did not know, and I did not leave it 334 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: on overnight. I was working on it an afternoon. I 335 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: mean left it on for a few hours, but every everything, 336 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: and I tried recycling the key as well, various times, 337 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: and that didn't solve the problem. Recycling the key never 338 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: solved the problem. Interesting. Hey, Jerry right. I appreciate the 339 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: update as well as everyone else. I'm sure they do too. 340 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: And thanks for being part of the car Doctor family. 341 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: And I'm happy your vehicle is fixed. Keep us posted 342 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: if anything else comes along, and we'll be glad to 343 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: reach out and do what we can for you. I'm 344 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: run a nating the Car Doctor. We'll be back right 345 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back. We're on a nating of the 346 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Eight five zero nine zero zero Car Doctor 347 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: seven number. Give us a call, let's talk about it. 348 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 1: If you're podcasting you want to talk about a car problem. Uh, 349 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: if you're within, if you're within the sound of my voice, 350 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: which if you're podcasting, obviously you are, eight zero zero works. 351 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: Even if we're not you know, we're not in your 352 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: market at that time, or you're not in a part 353 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: of the country that takes the affiliate. UM. If you're podcasting, 354 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: you can call that number Saturday afternoons to to four 355 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: pm Eastern time. We're good to go. Recent article this 356 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: came to me from Anthony Amelia Or, a retired police 357 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: officer out of Chicago. This is in the Chicago Tribune 358 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: over the summer July seventeen uh In a growing industry, 359 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: mobile work is diagnosed and fixed cars and owners homes. 360 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: I want to have been wanting to read this for 361 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: a while, and I've got the opportunity here. When Peter Shamplin, 362 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: an auto mechanic for nearly fifteen years, popped hun on 363 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: a two thousand three GEP Liberty fixed the leak with 364 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: a new clamp on the lower radiator hose and installed 365 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: a new ignition coil, and the bill was a nine 366 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: dollars and thirty three cents. The problem I have with 367 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: mobile mechanics and I think they've got their place, and 368 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: I actually think in certain parts of the country where 369 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: it's a little bit more remote and a little bit 370 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: more spread out and repair shops aren't as abundant. I 371 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: get it. I can understand why you're going to do that, 372 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: but I want to know how a mechanic in Chicago 373 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: known as the Windy City is going to be doing 374 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: these same repairs December, January, February and March. That's the 375 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: part I don't get. And how do you build a 376 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: relationship with that and how do you sit there and 377 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: you know, deal with it, both as a consumer and 378 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: both as the mechanic. I think about some of the 379 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: repairs I do on a day to day basis in 380 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: the shop. There are some things I really like doing outside. 381 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: I like doing dashboard work outside. It's easier, you can 382 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: have the doors open, it's warm, it's you know, you're 383 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: climbing it out of the car, you're not twisting between 384 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: lifts and toolboxes and carts, and it just makes it easier. 385 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: But to do that in somebody's driveway, And if the 386 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: answer is going to be, well, we limit the service 387 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: work of what we're going to do to X, Y 388 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: or z, and then we're not going to go beyond 389 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: a certain point, are you short changing yourself because you're 390 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: not developing a relationship, Because as we've all established here, 391 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: it's not about price. Well, maybe it is about price. 392 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't think it's about price. I think it's about 393 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: the relationship. I think it's about walking in and saying, hey, Ron, 394 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: I need this and this. Remember we talked about it 395 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: the last time, and you know it's gonna get it done. 396 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: The article continues routine stuff fro an experienced mechanic like 397 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: shamp List who was certified by National Institute Forutomotive Service 398 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: Excellence as a Master technician. And there's the bull and end. All. Um, 399 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm kind of down on a s c to, especially 400 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: with some of the things they've been doing, but I 401 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: get it. You've got to start somewhere. The repairs were 402 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: done in the overs drive owners driveway in the Chicago 403 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: suburb of stream Wood, not in a repair shop or 404 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: dealership service department. At a time when few medical doctors 405 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: still make house calls, a growing number of are you 406 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: guys ready for this line? A growing number of car doctors. 407 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: I guess I've created a whole other cottage industry are 408 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: driving to customers houses or places of business to perform 409 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: repairs and maintenance while the customers continue their usual daily routines. 410 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: You know this is another problem, all right, And I've 411 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: been meaning to talk about this too. So we've got 412 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: to structure ourselves around the customer. We can't disrupt the customer. 413 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: We can't disrupt the routine. We've got to make sure 414 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: that they get the problem is you're dealing with a 415 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: rocket ship and sometimes you've got it this up somebody's 416 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: routine because it's not all about them. It's about getting 417 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: the car fixed properly and giving the mechanic proper time 418 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: to do just that. And that's where you know, I 419 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: have to say JD Powers. You know, the the JD 420 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: Powers survey that all the car dealers go through. I 421 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: think JD Powers gives people, in a sense too much 422 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: power in their head. They tend to think that, well, 423 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: if I complain about this, I'll get some attention. If 424 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: I complain about that, I might get something knocked off 425 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: the bill. You know, as I've told you in the past, 426 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: I have friends who work at dealers, and one of 427 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: them her job is to make sure there's enough chips 428 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: in the chocolate chip cookies, not how good is the repair. 429 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: And the problem is to tech can knock his brains 430 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: against the wall, make that car absolutely perfect, and then 431 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: find out that there was only twenty two chocolate chips 432 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: in the cookie and not enough and there wasn't twenty four, 433 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: and he loses his ratings. According to JD Power, JD 434 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: Powers is making everybody a cry baby for the customers. 435 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: The article continues on, there's no waiting around that a 436 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: repair shop or shuttling back and forth to drop off. 437 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: I don't have anybody waiting at my repair shop. I 438 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: don't know a lot of repair shops that have people 439 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: waiting at the repair shops, except mostly for emergencies, maybe 440 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: in dealerships where we're trying to do some service work 441 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: for things that I get that that's there. But we're 442 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: approaching an age where auto repair isn't gonna be a 443 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: while you wait business. Auto repair is going to become 444 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: lead you know, beyond normal service fluids and filters. It's 445 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: going to become leave the car for a week and 446 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: we'll we'll talk about it. We'll we'll see where we're going. 447 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: Because of how complicated it is. Independent Mechanics began advertising 448 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: mobile services several years ago on Craigslist in similar sites 449 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: which I've seen, and I gotta tell you the way 450 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: they were written. You know, you look at some of 451 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: the way these ads are written on Craigslist, and these 452 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: guys cannot spell, They have improper English, their grammar is 453 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: very poor. I don't know that I would trust them 454 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: to workout a bicycle. It's less an honoramobile that goes 455 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: down the road at sixty hour, always two to three tons. 456 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: Now through startup companies say there's there's always, there's always 457 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: the money side of it. They're now offering mobile repair services, 458 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: rosters of experienced mechanics available seven days a week, instant 459 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: online price quotes for a variety of repairs, and twelve 460 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: months twelve thousand mile guarantees. I. UM, I don't know 461 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: that that's that's all that important. UM. I mean it is, 462 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: but it isn't because a lot of repair shops are 463 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: for twelve thousand mile twelve month warranties. The article then 464 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: goes on to talk about how Shamplain, for instance, UM 465 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: work for a company in Oakbrook, Illinois that has mobile 466 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: mechanics in Illinois, California, and Texas and plans to expand 467 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: into several more states and more established and much larger competitor. 468 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: Your Mechanic, based in Mountain View, California, operates in most 469 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: major metro areas, most major metro areas and thirty three states, 470 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: with plans to add more areas in the near future. 471 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: Both claimed to perform maintenance and repair at lower cost 472 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: than a dealership or repair shop. So again we're back 473 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: to let's fix the rocket ship as cheap as possible. 474 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: But what happens when he shows up and it's a 475 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: repair that's not in his wheelhouse? I want to see 476 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: the guy take the transmission out in somebody's driveway. I 477 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: want to see him do breaks in somebody's driveway. I 478 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: want to see him do breaks in somebody's driveway and 479 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: he needs a wheel bearing that now he's gotta run 480 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: and go get or the bolt snaps and he's got 481 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: a drill and tap it. I mean, there's a whole 482 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: slew of potential problems here, And the most important thing, 483 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: I think is using a service such as this, you 484 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: the consumer, are robbing yourself of the opportunity to build 485 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: a relationship, because all to repair is about the relationship. 486 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: It's about when you walk in the door. They know 487 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: who you are, they ask how you are, They remember 488 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: the car, and they're already writing up the ticket and 489 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: they're talking about the things that were recommended the last 490 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: time it was there, because they know you like to 491 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: the car, not a phantom mobile mechanics. The biggest problem 492 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: we're solving, Uh, Simon said, who is Who's Simon Siam 493 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: is something here? Oh? He's the CEO of Oktobots and 494 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: co founder of the company. The biggest problem we're solving 495 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: here is the actual inconvenience that is associated with the 496 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: hours of waiting at a repair shop. Again, the actual 497 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: inconvenience does Does anybody have any idea what we're trying 498 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: to fix? How inconvenience gonna be when the guy shows 499 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: up and something breaks in the driveway and you gotta 500 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: get a toad somewhere because oops, we couldn't do that. 501 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: I was reading a review this morning just to show 502 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: you the mindset of people out there about smoking in 503 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: the Bandit. Who remembers smoking in the Bandit? Right? Burt Reynolds, 504 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: Sally Fields Cherry read this. This author was beaten up 505 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: Smoking in the Bandit for its technical inaccuracies, for the 506 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: fact that people would have to pull over to let 507 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: the police just go by. For for the fact that 508 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: how many times they passed, you know, or did things 509 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: incorrectly that they wouldn't have been able to outrun the cops, 510 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: and on and on and miss the whole point of 511 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: the movie that it was just a good old fun movie. 512 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't meant to be technically accurate. Heck, I don't 513 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: think any movie made today is technically accurate, or any 514 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: movie made thirty or forty years ago it was technically accurate. 515 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: We've lost our point of logic and now it's starting 516 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: to affect us and come into the automobile. So I 517 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: don't know mobile mechanics. I'd be curious to get your thoughts. 518 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: I just don't see. I just don't see how it's 519 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: gonna work long term. I don't I don't think it can. 520 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 1: And um, I think it does more harm than good. 521 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: And I think it hurts you and your relationship with 522 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: a real mechanic, and that's a concern. That's a big concern. Zero, 523 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: run on any of the car doctor. I'll be back 524 00:27:51,080 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away. Welcome back, Roding in 525 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: the car document your service. Zero. Let's go over and 526 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: talk to Jason in Colorado. Jason, you're out with the 527 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: car office or how I help? How you doing good, sir? 528 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: What's going on? I called me a couple of weeks ago. Um, 529 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: I had a six gen Grand Cherokee Laredo that had 530 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: an intermittent no start and it was throwing a code. 531 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: I believe it was a P zero seven zero six, 532 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: which was the transmission range circuit. And in my mind, 533 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: this is what's wrong with the vehicle. You know, I 534 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: believed it was UM transmission related and I took it 535 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: to my main mechanic. UM. He totally you know my understanding. 536 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: He totally gutted it like he had everything taken apart. 537 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: He was testing modules. He didn't figure out what was 538 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: wrong with it, gave it back to me, didn't charge 539 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: me anything. Was like, sorry, I can't figure out what's 540 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: wrong with it. Had my brother looked at it, who 541 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: has mechanical background, UM say thing. He couldn't figure out 542 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: what was wrong with it. Um he wanted to pull 543 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: the training out of it, and I told him no, 544 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: and so UM A couple of days ago, I pulled 545 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: the battery. I pulled the plastic UM just I guess 546 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: framed that the battery sits on. I traced the ground 547 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: below the block and the bolt for the ground was 548 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: literally just coming right out of the block, and so 549 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: I tightened it all up with it all back to 550 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: other started it. It's fine, isn't that interesting and and 551 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: and there's a case. I guess that's proof positive that 552 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, how one module in an unrelated area, or 553 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: what could appear to be unrelated, can affect the actual 554 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: operation of the vehicle. Yeah, exactly, When I I rancode 555 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: again and the P zero seven zero six doesn't come 556 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: up anymore, it's gone right. And you know, part of 557 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: the problem is a two thousand six is a pretty 558 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: simple vehicle by today's standards. Wait till the wait till 559 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: the start doing this stuff. And that's and this is 560 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: my argument. You know, the article I was just reading 561 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: talking about tech and mechanics. I get it. Mobile mechanics 562 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: have their place, and I'm not trying to knock anybody 563 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: or take away any business. But I just don't see 564 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: how they're going to be able to get that deep 565 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: into a problem. And you know, are they doing a 566 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: disservice because they're making you, the vehicle owner, think well, 567 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: I can just take my car and I can just 568 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: leave it in the driveway and somebody'll show up and 569 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: fix it. And don't I don't know what that works. 570 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: Um you know, just yeah, I I don't. I don't 571 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: think that would work either. No, Um, you know, it 572 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: just it just doesn't make any sense to me. So 573 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: it's all good now. Any idea on how the bolt 574 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: got loose that I don't know? It was so weird, 575 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: I mean, because I've seen bolts come loose before just 576 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: from vibration, but this was hand loose where I believe 577 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: when I you know, you can't see the bolt. It's 578 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: underneath the block like, so I had to kind of 579 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: follow the grounds with my hand until I found the bolt. 580 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: I believe I turned it twice and the bolt came 581 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: out in my hand, right, So I don't know if 582 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: somebody loosened it, like, you know before I got the 583 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: via goal and that's kind of what it sounds like. 584 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: Likely vibration is what did it. Okay, So it just 585 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: kind of over the years had just kind of vibrated 586 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: itself loose to the point where it just didn't have 587 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: a good ground anymore, right, unless unless you've got reason 588 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: to believe somebody was working on the vehicle in that 589 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: area and they loosened it up. Listen, things things loosen up. 590 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: I was talking a couple of weeks ago on the 591 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: hot rod, the five Chevy that I was. I was, um, 592 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: I kind of had my foot in it, and AROUNDPM 593 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: it started to break up and miss and it just 594 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't go. Turns out the ground lead coming off the 595 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: distributor had vibrated loose, tightened it up and problems fixed. 596 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, yeah, and I just I can't 597 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: believe how sensitive all that is. Where all you need 598 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: is a bad ground in the whole system goes down 599 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: well and and and this is the problem, you know, 600 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: carpenter Bob says, if you knew how a house was built, 601 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: you wouldn't live in one. The car doctor says, if 602 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: you knew how cars were really made, you wouldn't drive 603 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: when you'd be afraid too. And it's it's the truth. 604 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: They're just they're so fragile, and you know, the least 605 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: little and the silliest thing can leave them disabled and 606 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: on the side of the road. So but in any event, Jason, 607 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad it worked out for you, babe. And um, 608 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: you keep on motor and you keep on listening, and uh, 609 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: we're happy to have you here. Eight five zero nine 610 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: zero zero run any of the car doctor coming back 611 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:30,479 Speaker 1: right after this, Hey, welcome back, run the car doctor. Um, 612 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: A little bit of a lull here. We can kind 613 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: of wind it out this hour, but um, I want 614 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: to finish this letter from Steve rosen Fall. I love Steve. 615 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: He's a funny guy and he definitely wears his emotions 616 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: on his sleeve. And uh, he sent me a nice 617 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: long letter back over the summer and I'm still reading it. 618 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: So we left out the part we're talking about tires, 619 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: Steve writes Michelin tires Bota said at Sam's Club some 620 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago for the Green Civic. Four years later, 621 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: the right front tire developed the bulbs that around seventy 622 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: thousand miles went to the local Firestone have used Firestone 623 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: bridge Stone since last spring. A wheel on Blue Honda 624 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 1: through a weight, causing the vibration from seventy problem resolving 625 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: the weight was replaced driverless cars. Who's gonna work on them? 626 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: You'll be ready if you choose to. But what about 627 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: the guy who just throw parts of cars? I guess 628 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: I don't think about that, And I guess there are 629 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: guys out there to throw parts of cars. It just happens, um, 630 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: you know, and and and sometimes you know. I talked 631 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: about it this week on Facebook regarding the power windows 632 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: switch on the two thousand avalon where Yeah, you know, 633 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: I got down to the last centile. But to diagnose 634 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: it to pinpoint, diagnose it right to the exact cause, 635 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: would cost so much because of how complicated it was. 636 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: Because it was a pre scanned data bus vehicle. You 637 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: couldn't get body, computer module information on scan tool. We 638 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: were in the last fifteen percentile. You threw a module 639 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: at or switch at and to fix the car. But yeah, 640 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: there are guys that throw parts of cars. I can't 641 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: I can't deny that. Paying unemployment for this is what 642 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to get through, Paying unemployment for those displaced 643 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: by driverless cars. Now at the government will just print 644 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: more money, count on it. We're only twenty trillion in debt. 645 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: So what's the problem. That's true, And the problem is 646 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: everybody's talking about driverless cars and we're gonna have you know, 647 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: less vehicles on the road, which we will, But what's 648 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: that going to do to the economy. Has anybody looked 649 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: at the number of cars that have been ruined by 650 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: Harvey in Houston? I read the number this morning. It's 651 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: something on the order of six hundred thousand cars a 652 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: half a million cars. Is it accurate? I hope so 653 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: it was in the newspaper. It has to be right. 654 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: But you know, six hundred thousand cars. They're saying that 655 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: if the people from Harvey get their insurance checks and 656 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: start going out to buy cars in the beginning of 657 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 1: September this month, go out now, begin to they won't 658 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: be able to fill all the orders until late October 659 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: early November because of the demand that they expect to 660 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: be there. So, yes, Steve's right. You know, we're so 661 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: dependent upon the animal deal. We're just gonna be a 662 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,959 Speaker 1: little bit more in debt. What's the big deal, Steve. 663 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: I'll finish your letter maybe next week, but if not, 664 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: keep them coming. I always enjoy them. I'm runningnading the 665 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: card doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive. They're place Let's see 666 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: you