1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome to move the sticks DJ, Bucky 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: back here with you. We have got a fun show today. 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a chance to visit with one of 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: the top coaches in college football and Kalonni Sataki from 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: b y U, who's got a tremendous football background both 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: as a player there at b y U, is a 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: phenomenal coach and coordinator there at Utah and since taking 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: over the b y U program and has them rolling. Uh. 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: So we're gonna chance to visit with him, which I'm 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: very much looking forward to. Uh, and get a chance 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: to talk with Bucky here about the top of the 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: draft and what we could see happening there because it 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: could be a a little movement there. It could be 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: a lot of fun, little shake up there at the 16 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: top of the draft as we look at it a 17 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: few months out. UM. So that's where we're head today. 18 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun show. Buck. How you doing, man, Man, 19 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm good. I am good. Uh. Excited about the weekend 20 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: the championship games in college um. DJ. In the past 21 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: like that would here so much weight for me as 22 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: an evaluated because um, I've always been told I believe 23 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: in looking for matchups, and so I want to see 24 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: how the people play against the best. And I'm not 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: gonna lie. I would always give a little extra currency 26 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: to playoff games, division championship games, rivalries because the intensity 27 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: of those games are as close as you can get 28 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: to the NFL. And so as most people do, we 29 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: work backwards, so we work from your most recent games 30 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: all the way up. And I think these uh impressions 31 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: that are made in these championship games will really matter 32 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to find a grace for some of 33 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: these prospects. Yeah, I'm looking forward to him as well. 34 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: I've been uh really working through all these players, uh, 35 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: starting to really study on these guys getting ready for 36 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: the draft, and uh man, I know Waddle got hurt, 37 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: but dang that dudes fast, I mean, just explosive from 38 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: Alabama and then Davante Smith. Um, it's been fun to 39 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: kind of look at something going through some of these 40 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: wide receivers. But on the receiver front, buck um Man, 41 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know if we're ever gonna have 42 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: a law. You know, we talked about, you know, drafts 43 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: kind of go in the kind of flows at certain positions, 44 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: but because teams are thrown at so much at the 45 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: college level because of the development process with seven on 46 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: seven in high school. Checking it, it's another great year 47 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: of receivers this year, man, it is another great year 48 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: of receivers. Like they're always pass catches out there, there 49 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: are available in DJ like it's it's so funny. Part 50 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: of it is supplying the man um, you know, like 51 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: from a philosophical standpoint, um, you can find these wide receivers, 52 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: particularly in the second third round, just because there's so 53 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: many really good players and I just, man, I'm just 54 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: fascinated to watch these guys developed, to watch them emerged, 55 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: to watch these route runners because for so long we 56 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: heard guys um saying, oh, the spare system, they don't 57 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: teach these guys how to run routes, to just kind 58 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: of run into areas are not able to play. But 59 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: the more that we look at these young players coming 60 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: to the league and have immediate impacts on their teams, 61 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: I think we have to give the young generation, the 62 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: next generation credit for working on their game on and 63 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: off the field, like during the season and really in 64 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: the off season when they do their things with their 65 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: trainers or uh working out on their own. All right, 66 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: So I want to I'm gonna ask you a question here. 67 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: If we look at these teams that are picking right now, 68 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: if the season ended, picking three, four and five. Okay, 69 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: little draft primer here, Cincinnati three, Chargers four, Dallas five. 70 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: We assume, obviously with with Dallas the decks, that they 71 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: will figure things out with decks. All three of those 72 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: teams have quarterbacks, So Cincinnati, if we go Jets Jacksonville, 73 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: we assume quarterback quarterback, which would mean Cincinnati would have 74 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: the pick of whoever else in the field that they need. Now. 75 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: Cincinnati needs offensive line help, the Chargers need offensive line help. 76 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: Dallas needs offensive line help. So let's say Cincinnati takes 77 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: the best guy, and we you know, most believe that 78 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: a swell, right. I really like Rashaan Slater as well. 79 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: But then you get down to the next pick there 80 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: with the Chargers, and let's say that they're maybe not 81 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: quite as high on Rashaans later as I am. So 82 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: let's just to make that simple. Let's say they feel 83 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: like there's B B level offensive lineman there, but you've 84 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: got a level receiving talent that's there, So you've got, 85 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: however you like him with Jamaar Chase and Davante Smith 86 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: and Waddle, what however you order those three guys? Right? So, 87 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: if you're the Chargers and the Cowboys, would you take 88 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: a B level offensive lineman to help uh major major 89 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: position of need? Or do you say, we've got quarterbacks 90 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: in the way the game is going, let's just get 91 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: them premiere premiere weapon there with that pick? What would 92 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: you do? So I'm not I know you haven't. We 93 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: haven't done an. I'm just saying so I'm thinking, I'm 94 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: thinking about Dallas because that was next up. So here's 95 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: the thing about Dallas in premium position. You have a 96 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: Mari Cooper in the contract you just took, Cede lamb Um, 97 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: Michael Gallant will come up in a year or so, 98 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: and then you have two tight ends and Blake Darwin 99 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: and Dalton Shots. I think if you think about premiere talent, 100 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: playmaker whatever, this would job Dallas Cowboys fans crazy. But we' 101 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: in a video game like a playmaker like Cole Pitts. 102 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying cow Pits is the top five talent. 103 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: But if you think, really good, if you think about 104 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: lining up like putting Kyle Pitts there. So now you're saying, 105 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: and we've always said this, build up one side of 106 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: your football team and then you can work on the 107 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: other side. You know, build it up. So I know 108 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: that we can get the eight and eight because of 109 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: the strength of our offense. And we saw what that 110 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: looked like with this offense without the offensive line. They 111 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: were two and three or whatever they were when he 112 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: went out, So you build it up. So I would 113 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: consider that the thing about like the B level alignement. Um, 114 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: I like Rashaan Slater, Um, I don't know if he's 115 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: he's kind of like that a B because he's he's 116 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: close pinas what to me is is clear. But then 117 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: you have other guys like I look at Christian derry Shaw. 118 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: Yeah he's a good he's a good player, but he 119 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: falls into that B category. So how far back are 120 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: we going? Are we going to the teams where we 121 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: still feel like we can get him? Because looking at 122 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: last year, you saw but my guy backed and Tristan 123 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: Worst was third team back. There was eleven. And you 124 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: get too far, Jig Wheels, you get too far out 125 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: to mix, you may not be able to get one 126 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: of those offensive tacks that you like. So here here, 127 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: here's like the perfect scenario to me. So we've got 128 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: if we say Jets Jags one too. Right, if you 129 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 1: are in Cincinnati, probably has to go a premier offensive linemen. 130 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: So I think those first three picks you wouldn't see 131 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: trades because I think Cincinnati passes stick and pick they 132 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: have to the quarterback at killed last year. Um So, 133 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: to me, the draft would then start at four or five. 134 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: So Chargers Cowboys, and I believe they're gonna have to 135 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: flip a coin. But because their strength of schedules identical 136 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: as well as their records, so they'll flip a coin 137 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: to see who goes first there. Um So, Chargers Cowboys 138 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: there at four five. To me, if you look at it, 139 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: the first two quarterbacks are gone, but we think there's 140 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: three four potential quarterbacks. You have Carolina potential quarterback team 141 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: at six and you have Atlanta potential quarterback team at seven. 142 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: So that's that's like a perfect dream world if you're 143 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: the charge of the Cowboys. Because as if we're saying, well, 144 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: I can get I can get Slater, I can still 145 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: take the offense line, but maybe I get a little 146 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: extra just to slide back a few spots. Um, then 147 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: you can do that. So to me, then it becomes 148 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: all right, Caroline, Atlanta, you guys are in the same division. 149 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: You guys both need quarterbacks. And if you're if you're 150 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: the charge of the Cowboys, you're trying to pit them 151 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: against each other and say, hey, come on up, it's 152 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: a few spots, come up and get the guy you want. 153 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: Well out of the scenario. One thing that stands up 154 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: to me, we can pretty much guarantee their four quarterbacks 155 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: and we go in to top ten. Yes, I think 156 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: it's pretty much a guarantee that four quarterbacks we go 157 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: on the top ten and whatever order that is. But 158 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: the four guys that we will hear their name called 159 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: by the time we get to the tenth pick will 160 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: be Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Zach Wilson, Trede Lance and 161 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: whatever order and so um. Yeah, if you're Atlanta and Carolina, 162 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: and I think both teams probably need to pour the 163 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: trigger on the quarterback this year before it gets too late. 164 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: Because Teddy Bridge ordered still has two years left on 165 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: his deal. Matt Ryan has time on his deal. You 166 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 1: have to keep him at least another year just based 167 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: on the number. Get the quarterback now, so you're not 168 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: under pressure to have to go next year. When you're 169 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 1: go to the grocery store, when you when you've eaten, 170 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: so you don't don't go hungry, because then you you 171 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: fell up your card if you spent dollars and you 172 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: don't have anything that set stuffs and so um. I 173 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: think that's I think it's really important. And because that 174 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: is the mindset. I think if you are the Chargers 175 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys, what you have to do is you 176 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: really have to take inventory of what's going on in 177 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: the room, meaning what is going on around us, what's 178 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: the conversations that we're hearing coming out of Carolina and Atlanta. 179 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: How far back can we go? And how desperate are 180 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: those teams to get a quarterback? So and we're gonna 181 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: have this is this is just like the kickoff of 182 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: when we like to scrimmage these things back and forth. 183 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: I love these conversations. Well, you talked about derrissov from 184 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: from Virginia Tech. I also like Tevin Jenkins from Oklahoma State. 185 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: I think there's some good like middle first round type 186 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: value offensive linements. So another scenario that you could be 187 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: placed facing, which would be I think it's good options. 188 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: So if you're the Chargers and the Cowboys, we're saying, okay, 189 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: maybe Carolina Atlanta, you know, you get them to move up. 190 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't know you'll get a ton for that, but 191 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: you'll get you're gonna get something to slide back from 192 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: four or five down to six or seven. Or you 193 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: could get on the hornet with Detroit at eleven or 194 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: maybe even Chicago at fifty. You guys gotta pay a 195 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: premium to come all the way up here from that, 196 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: and I think because the depth is offensive line class, 197 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna get an upgrade there at eleven or fifteen 198 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: with what you're playing with if you're the Cowboys or 199 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: the Chargers, and then you might get a haul of pis. Okay. 200 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: So now here's the team that I believe of the 201 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: two teams has the most leverage the Charges in the Cowboys. 202 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: I would say the Cowboys, because here's what the Cowboys 203 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: can do, and here's what they should start doing from now. 204 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: They should start himming and hawing on the Dak Prescott 205 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: conversation to create the illusion that they were seriously with 206 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: entertain taking a quarterback at four or five. So that 207 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: means Stephen Jones can't get on air and talk about 208 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: a we love our guy, we want to bring them back. 209 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: Is you know it's gonna go station. I don't know 210 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: this and that because you want to create a legitimate 211 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: feel that, you know what I mean. The Cowboys they 212 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: may legitimately take a quarterback, so we need to offer 213 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: them something that knocks their socks off. And everything has 214 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: to be about creating that. And the Charges can't do 215 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: that because everyone is like you just have justin heard it. Yeah, 216 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: but it depends. It depends who's who wins the coin toss, right, 217 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,119 Speaker 1: So if the Chargers end up picking ahead of the Cowboys, 218 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: the Charges to be sitting there like, hey, yeah, Dallas, 219 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: go ahead and pretend like that's not your guy, because 220 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: now my picks. The price of my pictures went way 221 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: up because you've got to get in front of Dallas 222 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: or you're gonna miss out on the third quarterback. Man, 223 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,119 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun. Anytime you have this many quarterbacks. 224 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: It makes the draft fun because that's what moves moves 225 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: the needle is because that's what trades happen. Teams go 226 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: up for quarterbacks. Yeah, and you and you have so 227 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: many teams they need to address the quarterback situation. If 228 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: we just look at it just off the top of 229 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: the head, think about the teams that we've said for 230 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: the last two or three years they need to do 231 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: something at quarterback. Is always the guys with the older quarterbacks. 232 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: So looking right now, Indianapolis needs to figure out what 233 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: they're going to do going for because Jacoby Brissette and 234 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers are both free agents. The Pittsburgh still has 235 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: been Roethlisberger's thirty eight years old. He's fading fast down 236 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: the stretch. And the New England Patriots, regardless of whatever 237 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: like Cam Newton, what like, they have to do something 238 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: at quarterback Cam Newton, jerristidem or whatever like, they have 239 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: to eventually take a swing. New England right now is 240 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: picking sixteen. So Chicago and New England are fifteen sixteen. 241 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: You can make a case that like, man, it's probably 242 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: time for a book, could be time for a bowl 243 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: boat both those two. Yeah, Chicago. So we're talking four 244 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: other teams that aren't even in that conversation immediately that 245 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: you talked about with Carolina and Atlanta. So what is 246 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: is six to get to uh. And let's just say 247 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: those two quarterbacks are the two remaining outside of the 248 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: top two, Trevor Lawrence and whoever. I mean, now you have, 249 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: you have what you want, leverage, you have the opportunity 250 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, let's see what you got. We got 251 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: six teams that I know need quarterbacks. Dang Man. The 252 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: more I'm looking at this, I'm telling you, BUCK like 253 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: the two teams and we work with them. But the 254 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: Chargers and the Cowboys that could end up it could 255 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: end up pretty nice for them because they if if 256 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, you assume that, if they if they got 257 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: a good ship, if they play it right, it absolutely 258 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: can work out in their favor. And then the thing 259 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: is in these scenarios when it comes to trading, you 260 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: have to be able to assess how far back am 261 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: I willing to drop in the first round, how and 262 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: still get a blue chip player, still get a player 263 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: that's gonna come in and do it. And we won't 264 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: fully know that until we assess the full landscape. Because 265 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: I do think this draft, unlike some d I think 266 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of more offensive heavy. I think I probably 267 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: feel better right now, just loosely observing did I feel 268 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: better about the offensive lineman industry afterwhile we're sus in 269 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: the drafts and the quarterback uh, cornerbacks are pretty good. 270 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: But I don't feeling I don't feel not. I mean, 271 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: I don't feel I really like Caleb Farley. I should 272 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: say that, but I don't think after him. I don't 273 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: think there's like big time, big time dudes and edge 274 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: rusher wise, it's it's I mean, I've got a lot 275 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: more guys to watch, but I've not been blown. So 276 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: because of that, your Dallas, You're you're thinking, um m hmm. 277 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: It's going to test their willingness to say, Okay, the 278 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: better player is that offensive line. Everyone is going to 279 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: scream at us that we need to upgrade our defense, 280 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: but the offensive line, the need matches the talent that 281 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: could be available if we move back into the middle 282 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: of the first round. But we all we always say 283 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: to remember that free agency and the draft are married. 284 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: So if we're saying the draft, excuse more offense man, 285 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: good good year to be a defensive free agent, I 286 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: don't know who those markets defensive free agents are like 287 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: was Bud Dupree was one of them until he got hurt, 288 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, that was. Yeah, so looking at those guys, 289 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: the corners always tend to get overpaid um in free agency, 290 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: so it I mean, it's interesting because we can see 291 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: the money flow off the board in free as like 292 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: what the Yeah, but part of it is you gotta secure, 293 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: you gotta secure the need. I think Matt Judahon's up 294 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: to right franchise ranch, you know. And it made me 295 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: when the Ravens made the move for Yanniking got Way, 296 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: it made me believe that they may be okay with 297 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: Matt Juno walking out the door. Yeah, because Yannis up 298 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: to right. Yeah, he is up. But I mean you 299 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: gave up a pick to bring him in. I think 300 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: when you do that, you kind of have a little motivation. 301 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it was just a to one year 302 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: run to try and make it, but it seems like 303 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: they had him targeted and he was in their plan. 304 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: And I know they also tried to make the move 305 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,119 Speaker 1: early in the off season to get him directly from Jacksonville. 306 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: So they got him from Jacksonville by way of the 307 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. So I wonder, all right, Yeah, it's fascinating 308 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: to uh to see what could happen there at the 309 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: top of the draft, and look, we'll put it. We'll 310 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: put a pen in this one. We'll revisit this one 311 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: down the road. But something to keep an eye on 312 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: as we kind of just scrimmage that one out. But 313 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: right now, let's let's bring in our special guests. Excited 314 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: to have b YU head coach Klannie Sataki joined the show. 315 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: All right, Buck, let's bring him in here. Coach Sataki 316 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: joining us and uh and coach. First thing, I want 317 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: to congratulate you on a wonderful season that you guys 318 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: have had. But I also want to congratulate you. It's 319 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: two former scouts. They've been in just about every facility 320 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: in the country. Uh. The b y U sandwich while 321 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: you're while you finished tape and you're getting ready from practice, 322 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: and that little the sandwich shop downstairs is the best 323 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: in the country. Listen. Not one thing I do know 324 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: is that when when whenever my wife and my family 325 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: want to go on vacation, the first thing I do 326 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: is look at the eating spots. Uh, you know, the vacation. 327 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: When we talk about going to different places and vacation 328 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: and people ask me, hey, how was it, I'm like 329 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: it was all right, The food was awesome. Though, you're 330 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: all going to get that type of reaction for me, 331 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: and I feel like, you know, the Scouts are always 332 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: traveling and anything we can do to help comedy. And 333 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: I know that other other schools do it too, but 334 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: I think they have one of the toughest jobs out 335 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: there and and whatever we can do to help help 336 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: them make their life a little bit more at ease 337 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: when they're doing their jobs. So looking forward to having 338 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: more Scouts when things get back to normal. Hey, Coach, 339 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: as DJ and I talked about, we've always come through 340 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: by us, always a must see it must stop destination 341 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: And the thing that I'm most impressed with when I 342 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: look at your team, you guys are so physical, um 343 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: and fundamentally sound. Where does that come from? Because it 344 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: seems like there's been an uptick in physicality and toughness 345 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: since you've taken over the program. Wow. I believe that 346 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: you have to recruit big, strong guys first, you know, 347 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: And when we look at recruiting, I mean, for me, 348 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: it's recruiting. When I played here, we always had monsters 349 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: up front and we had length and size. So if 350 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: I feel like if you recruit frame and recruit some toughness, 351 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: and some some strength. Um, it's hard to take a 352 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: guy that you think is is a great athlete but 353 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: has no strength. And to me, that's work ethic. And 354 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: so we're gonna live in the weight room. We're gonna 355 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: get these guys stronger, and then we're gonna try to 356 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: have that show and make sure that it is a 357 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: reflection on the field. And so but I honestly think 358 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: that the things here we kind of relish from an 359 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: idea that things are tough here at b y U. 360 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to live the lifestyle here, the 361 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: honor code, that's difficult. That's a sacrifice that a lot 362 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: of college kids aren't aren't wanting to do during their 363 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: college years. And academics is really tough, and so football 364 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: is gonna be tough as well, and I think that 365 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: carries over into their approach to the game. And you know, whenever, 366 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: whenever we play the game, I don't know if we're 367 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: gonna win or lose, but I don't know if the 368 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: result will be. But I hope that people can feel 369 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: us by the end of the game and that we 370 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: make an impact on them when they say, man, those 371 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: guys are worth some tough guys to play against and 372 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we were still working on all 373 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: of it. So there's a lot of room to grow 374 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: and and but I think you have to develop them 375 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: that way, and you have to recruit them that way. Coach, 376 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: I had some of the things I want to ask 377 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: you about. But I'm putting the timeline together in my head. 378 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: And I grew up in San Diego. I used to 379 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: throw with some some receivers down there and going off 380 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: as they were going out to school, and one of 381 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: them was, ko, were you were you there? Were you 382 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: there with ko at b y U? So I wasn't here, 383 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 1: So here's our work I played in. And then I 384 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: I think I take the credit for recruiting a lot 385 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: of the guys, like uh, Steve Sarkisian if so, I 386 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: was here to help post those guys, you know, when 387 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: I played with the true freshman and then I went 388 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: on my mission after that and those guys played that 389 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: I came home and was able to see them in 390 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: the bowl game. But I know Kale Calla Louis really well, 391 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: and I know Steve Sarkasian well. I mean Sarka and 392 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: I are really close friends, you know, even to this day. 393 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: So UM, those guys when you're in the b I UH. 394 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: You know, if you're a b I alum, you'r you 395 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: had this brotherhood, this connection. It doesn't matter when you played, 396 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: when you played under Lavell uh and you played under 397 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: all the other coaches, you kind of have this understanding 398 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: of each other and the brotherhood that happens here and 399 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: the long tradition. So we really take care of each 400 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: other and we know what what what it takes to 401 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: be a football player here. So that's that automatically connection. 402 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: But those guys individually, I do know them to on 403 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: the Ukulele coach now, yeah, we all got our soft 404 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: side to you know, it comes to pandemic presented. UH 405 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: football programs were unique challenges in terms of preparing and 406 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: getting ready for the season. UM. I thought it was 407 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: interesting your first game against Navy. There's a stark contrast 408 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: and the way that you guys approached it in the 409 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: way the Navy approached it. You guys don't the field. 410 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: We're very physical and very ready to play. How did 411 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: your approach um the changing circumstances and getting your team 412 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: ready to play. I think we were kind of figuring 413 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: things out too, you know, during that whole transition and 414 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: when things were changing and we didn't know if we 415 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: had a schedule, but once we knew we had Navy 416 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: on there, we had to kind of hone in on 417 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: prepping for that type of offense. And UM, I gotta 418 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: be honest with you, we got the players back in June. 419 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: I think June one, we're allowed to have them back 420 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: here and we started testing it did our our off 421 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: off season conditioning. But before that time, from the pandemic 422 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: in March, the quarantine marched all the way until June. 423 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: We relied heavily on our players to do their their 424 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: jobs and we met on zoom and everything. But um, 425 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: that was a moment for our guys to actually focus 426 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: on doing it themselves as being intrinsically motivated, motivated, And 427 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: what we saw is that we have guys that can 428 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: be trusted. And when they went out there and they 429 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: came back from March to June and we saw body changes, 430 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: that was awesome, and then we were able to kind 431 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: of roll with that in June. It just made me 432 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: a lot more um confident that these guys love football 433 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: and they want to be at their best, and so 434 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: that's a great foundation to have when it's different when 435 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: you're forced to do it compared to when you do 436 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: it on your own. And then I think that that 437 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 1: takes over your mindset a little bit and helps your 438 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: psyche become a little bit more confident when you enter 439 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: the field. Talk about making improvements. Coach, Your quarterback spent 440 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: off the charts this year. UH, somebody that's definitely got 441 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: the attention of the National Football League. We go back 442 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: to UH high school with him. What was What was 443 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: it about him that gets you excited about him to 444 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: bring him into the program. Well, what got me excited 445 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: That he's a multi sport athlete. He plays a lot 446 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: of different sports, starting point guard on his basketball team. UH, 447 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 1: loves competing. So to me, it's like he wasn't just 448 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: a specialized guy that just threw the ball and that's 449 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: all he did. He could do a lot of different things. 450 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: And he had the toughness that he could play safety. 451 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: You could do whatever he wanted, you know, And and 452 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 1: for for me, it was like, Okay, this guy's got it. 453 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: He's got a high level of competition, and I liked 454 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: this leadership and so I think he just I feel 455 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: like the personality that he had kind of made sense, 456 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: and he wasn't as this guy to go out and 457 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: get recruited or try to gain attention through all the 458 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: different nothing against that. I know people while people were 459 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: doing that, he was playing basketball, he was doing other things. 460 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: And and I like multi sport athletes, and I feel 461 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: like that kind of you know, we're kind of losing 462 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: that a little bit, and and and people are becoming 463 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: so specialized. And I think that's why I think it's 464 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: a for young young people that when they're playing football 465 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: to play all different positions, you know, and I think 466 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 1: you get labeled and and literally sometimes you get labeled 467 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: at X men. You know, you're the guy that never 468 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: gets to carry the ball, that sucks man. You know. 469 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: So they should play flight football and learn how to 470 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: throw and and then you know, I think it's important 471 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: for guys to learn how to play football but also 472 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: learn how to play basketball. I think basketball is a 473 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: great sport for football players, great agility. I mean, Lebron 474 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: James can play football. You know, Allen Iverson was a 475 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: great football player. So I think it correlates to to 476 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: to being a great athlete on the field. And I 477 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: think even in basketball, you get labeled. I mean, if 478 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: you're six four you're gonna be a post player. That's 479 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: not even fair. You know that broad guys should be 480 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: a point guard or working in a two guard spot. 481 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: And so to me, it's like keeping our guys ability 482 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: to play a lot of different positions. And when we 483 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: get little kids kids here that come to our camps, 484 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: we allowed to play every position possible and that's like 485 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: a huge relief to them. And you actually get to 486 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: see these big guys run and and you never know 487 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: how someone grows from twelve to eighteen, you know. And 488 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: so you look at some of these basketball players and 489 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden grew six inches and there used 490 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: to be in a point guard. Now they're you know, 491 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: six state point guard. That's how it works. And so 492 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: football is the same way. You want guys to be 493 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: able to to run the ball, throw the ball, you know, 494 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: catch and all those things not just be labeled to alignment. 495 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: Not not that there's anything wrong with that, but uh, 496 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: athletic climate is what the NFL looks for, you know. 497 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: And and thinking about Wilson, he is growing so much 498 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: over three years as a starter. You always talk about 499 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: toughness when it comes to your program. What kind of 500 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: toughness does he exhibit when we're able to identify the 501 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: toughness that you feel like it's necessary to be the 502 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: starting quarterback for your program. I think toughness is a 503 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: relative term, so it's using so many different ways. And 504 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: I think sometimes the people think tough is beating your 505 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: chest and and uh and and trying to fight, you know, 506 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: And I think the toughest man in the fight is 507 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: the one willing to walk away. And so I'm trying 508 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: to talk about mental toughness and things like that that 509 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: that I think really matter the most for these young 510 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: men and that this time and in their life. And 511 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: for for me, it's toughness is showing up on time, 512 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: being responsible and accountable for what you say, you know, 513 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: holding onto your word when you tell someone you're gonna 514 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: be there, um, Letting know people that they can count 515 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: on you when when times are rough for them, being 516 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: a good friend. That's what toughness is to me. And 517 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: I've seen him do all those things. I've seen him 518 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: when he's struggling with his own injuries, look out to 519 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: serve others. And so you know, we do a lot 520 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: of service here as a team. But it's awesome when 521 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: you see guys that are reaching out to to other 522 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: people even when they're hurting um And so to me, 523 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: I think it's important that we define toughness for these 524 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: young men, and in the way that I see it, 525 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: in the way that I think could be the most beneficial, 526 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: in the way they can roll. He is a tough 527 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: man because he does all the things that you you 528 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: ask of him, and then more and and sometimes you 529 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: don't even have to remind guys, you know, when you're 530 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: think it's than as a coach and you're about to 531 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: say and then you hear your leaders say it like 532 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: your quarterback, and you're like, all right, well, I don't 533 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: have to say anymore. That's to me, that's toughness because 534 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: you're being aware of what's going on and they're not 535 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: just all about you, it's about everyone else that's included. 536 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: I've been really impressed with that from him, coach. Last 537 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: question from me, You've been uh, very very generous with 538 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: your time today. But well, I feel like nationally, maybe 539 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: on the you know, on a broader scale, I don't 540 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: know that Lavell Edwards gets the credit that's due him 541 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: for how great of a coach he was for the 542 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: length of time he was, having played from him and 543 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: having a successful coaching career yourself. Now, is there is 544 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: there one or two things that that you really pull 545 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: from him, that you drawn from from what you learned 546 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: during that time. Oh yeah, I mean I miss him. 547 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: I miss him so much. And I enjoy staying in 548 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: contact with with his wife, Patty, and his his grandchildren 549 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: and children. Um. But you know, it was an honor 550 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: for me to coach, for to be a head coach 551 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: when he was here from the first year, and then 552 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: to play under him. But I think that the lessons 553 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: that he taught me weren't just football, you know. I 554 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: think he's quite spent more time as the head coach 555 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: talking to me about life, you know, and and really 556 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: really concerned about me as a person and and what's 557 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: going on in my college life more than um, what 558 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing on the field. He he let Norm Chow 559 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: and the other coach, Lance Reynolds and the other coach 560 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: just handled that. But the most part he was he 561 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: was interested in me, how I'm thinking, how I'm feeling, 562 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: and and he did that, and you know, I thought 563 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: I was special because, you know, in his funeral services. 564 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: I thought I was his favorite, you know. I thought 565 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: that that's what he did for me. And then you 566 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: get around all the other coaches like that played for him, 567 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: like Andy Reid and and all these Brian Billick and 568 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: Steve Young, and I mean, I'm gonna forget about all 569 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: these great people. You start talking to him that man, 570 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: they felt the same way, you know. And so you 571 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: had these thousands of men that felt like we were 572 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: his favorite. And how awesome that was that we all 573 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: felt the same way. And I think that's a huge 574 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: indicator of how much that man loved us. That is awesome. Coach. Hey, 575 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: we appreciate your time. Man. This has been a treat 576 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: for us. Like I said, we've we've followed you for 577 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: a long time, and uh, it's been fun to watch 578 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: the success that you've had your programs had because you 579 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: do it the right way. We appreciate you. Thank you 580 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: so much. And they were gonna try to get more 581 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: NFL guys here, Matthew, more BUYU players, so uh, keep 582 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: us on the map, man. We got a lot of 583 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: players are up and coming too, so keep keep keep 584 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 1: your rolling. We'll keep feeding you guys when you come over. Well, 585 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: I want to know how many more, how many more 586 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: family mes Fred Warners got there. I feel like I've 587 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: been watching a warner at b YU for the last 588 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: ten years. I don't know, but they should have twenty more. 589 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: That's a great job, coach. I appreciate you man, best 590 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: of luck. Thanks, guys, appreciate it alright. But coach the talk, 591 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: he was awesome. Man, that was fantastic. And I think 592 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: we just we were just touching on it how he's 593 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: been able to take a traditional passing program add the 594 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: physicality and it works. You look at Alabama traditional physical 595 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: program at the passing game and it works. It's kind 596 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: of there's a similarity there between Alabama and b y U. Yeah. Look, 597 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't think b YU gets enough credit. And I 598 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: know their schedule was uh topsy turvy in terms of 599 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: like the cancelations them have re supplies, So we didn't 600 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: fully give them the respect that they deserved in terms 601 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: of how well they were playing. But this is a 602 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: physical football team. It's not the old school by you 603 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: that you used to see throw the ball all over 604 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: the yard. They get after they run it. But they 605 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: have a mix of past that makes them fun. I 606 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: think this is a very fun team to watch, but 607 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: I think old school traditionalists they would love to see 608 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: them because of how physical they are. No doubt. Well, 609 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: this has been a it's been a fun episode today. Man, 610 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: It's always a treat to get to talk to guys 611 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: like coach Staki. We appreciate his time. Hold you. Hope 612 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed it as much as we did. Um. 613 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us today though, and uh, 614 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: hopefully you guys will keep joining us here. We a 615 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: lot to talk about as we marched towards the end 616 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: of the season, as well as the u NFL Draft. 617 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: Right on the horizon, he's Blucky Brooks. I'm Daniel Jeremiah. 618 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: We'll catch you next time. Right here on, move the sticks.