1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Hey, folks, We're back for another the second episode of 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: Ask Kevin Almost Anything. This is our second one. I mean, 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: the idea is that people have written in and reached 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: out and said, you know, we got some questions that 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: we're wondering, and so we look through and we decide 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: what would be fun to respond to it, and we'll 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: see how this goes. I am joined now by the 8 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: executive director of six Degrees dot Org Stacy Houston, who 9 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: is awesome and I concur yeah, and who's a little 10 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: tired because she saw Madonna last night, but has decided 11 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: to rally today and coy and join me here in 12 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: Ask Kevin Almost Anything. 13 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: I stays, Hi, Yeah. 14 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: If Madonna can do it, I can do it. I'm inspired. 15 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: That's for sure. 16 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: Good idea, good idea. She's something amazing. It really is. 17 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: Talk about a show. 18 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen Madonna alive. I think 19 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: that it probably didn't quite line up with my age, 20 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: and then I don't know. For some reason, I just 21 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: that that's a show that I never saw, but it 22 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: must be incredible. 23 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: It was really incredible. 24 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: It was a pretty diverse audience for sure, But I 25 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: think that, yeah, she put on on one hell of 26 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: a show called the Celebration Tour. So it's kind of 27 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: like all all of her music throughout the year, so 28 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: something for everyone. 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: I think a lot of young people there, yeah, I. 30 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: Think so and not so young. I mean she's sixty five. 31 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Is my age, same age as Yeah. 32 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but she was definitely it was very theatrical, so 33 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: I think similarly to a lot of the you know, 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: the bigger pop stars of today, Like she's still moving 35 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 3: around that stage and telling a story and a lot 36 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: of actual social impact stuff, right, A lot of things 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 3: that she talked about through her music that she kind 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: of highlighted with the stage design and the sets and 39 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: those sorts of things, especially around like the LGBTQ community 40 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 3: and the HIV crisis of the eighties and things like that. 41 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: So it was powerful. It was really really cool. 42 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny you bring that up, because when you 43 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: really think about it, she was really there is an 44 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: element of UH pop female pop stars who you know, 45 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: have sort of empowered the various sometimes unrecognized factions of 46 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: their uh their audience and given them a voice and 47 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: support in ways. And I think she really was one 48 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: of the first. I mean, you know, followed certainly by 49 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: Gaga and now you know Tailor and Beyonce, and you know, 50 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: it's like you you you you go beyond just making 51 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: the music and and even beyond just having the adoration 52 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: of of your fans, but you actually are are trying 53 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: to support people to you know, kind of be who 54 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: they are, you know, Harry Styles and you know, it's 55 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: it's interesting, but but Donna was really sort of a 56 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, a pioneer in that way. I think that 57 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, in music, a lot of the early rock 58 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: stars and the idea was that you just you were 59 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: kind of trying to keep it distance. That was kind 60 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: of part of what rock and roll was that you 61 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: were this sort of distant, you know, kind of persona 62 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: and and not necessarily you were more kind of speaking 63 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: two people than speaking four people. So I think I 64 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: think it's interesting that she was early in that that movement. 65 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it definitely I think probably inspired those that 66 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 3: came after her, right for sure, Yeah, to not squander 67 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: that opportunity, Yeah, and definitely not shy away from it 68 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: because she's bold now. But I can only imagine when 69 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: she started, you know, forty years ago. Yeah, that was 70 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 3: like a moment. 71 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: So well, I first saw her in Uh, oh gosh, 72 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: whatlder that movie? I feel like maybe it was a 73 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: Jonathan Demi movie. I'm trying to she had a small part. 74 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: Oh boy, what was it? And but she was it 75 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: was you know, a lot of it was like her 76 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: kind of singular style and the look and her you know, 77 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: just she's attitude. You know, she was just kind of badass. Anyway, 78 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: this is the Madonna, So. 79 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, she deserves her own episode. 80 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: Thank you, Madonna for letting us just riff on you 81 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: for a little bit. 82 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: Well let me read the first question. How's that? Since 83 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: this is called ask Kevin almost anything? Uh, this is 84 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: from CHRISA And she says, Hi, Kevin, I'm from food Bank, 85 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: Victoria in Australia. Love what you do. I was wondering 86 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: if you have any budget type recipes that we can 87 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: share with our folks. I just thought it could be 88 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: a fun thing to do. Oh yeah, if you have 89 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: any other ideas. I know you help so many people already, 90 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: but I thought it was worth asking. Cheers Chris. Okay, 91 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: so when she's talking about budget type recipes, I can 92 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: tell you that one of our favorite things that we make, 93 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: when you know, a lot of times will be thinking, well, 94 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: what are we going to do tonight? What are we 95 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: going to get? You know, cures very big on like 96 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: finding new recipes. You know, she does searches and follows things, 97 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: and I'm a little bit more, you know, just kind 98 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: of improvisational. But you know, it's usually we have some 99 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: kind of big idea and every once in a while 100 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: we want to stay in but we're out of big 101 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: ideas and we've we have a short handle. We'd just 102 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: go pantry and she says yes, and I say pantry, yeah, 103 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: And it's really pantry pasta is what it is. So 104 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: you generally have lying around at least a couple of 105 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: clothes of garlic or an onion. And then that's always 106 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: like the basis for anything, right, any any any thing 107 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: that's worth eating, It starts with it, you know, some 108 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: garlic or some onion. So you you put that in 109 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: the pan and you start you like, so I tell 110 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: you that, and then you open up the pantry and 111 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: you see what's in there. And so it could be 112 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: a can of tomatoes, it could be a lot of ours. 113 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: Is like a can of tomatoes we get opened up, 114 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: a can of tuna we throw in some you know, 115 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: whatever kind of herbs you have, we're lying around and 116 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: even if they're dried, you know, some regular basically you 117 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: just make a sauce, add a little bit of wine, 118 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: something has to be, you know, make it liquid enough, 119 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: and then you make some pasta and you put it 120 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: on and that's pantry pasta. We've we've oftentimes have a 121 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: lot of people have some capers lying around, some olives 122 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: lying around, some you know. I mean, it sounds it 123 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: sounds like I'm just making something from garbage, but it 124 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: really is is these are all things that will keep forever. Yeah, 125 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: And that's that's what we do Petripasta. 126 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: So this kind of reminds me of this woman that 127 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: I met recently and feeling pretty bad right now that 128 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: her name is escaping me. But she has an Instagram 129 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: page and she I don't know if she's coined this, 130 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: but she does this thing called shelf Timber where it's 131 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: like in September she challenges everybody to only use fifty 132 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: dollars a week for groceries. I think she's a pretty 133 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: large family. I think she has like six or seven 134 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: kids something like that. Well, so I think this might 135 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 3: help Chris's community as well, you know, and they are 136 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: challenged to use only what's in the pantry on their 137 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: shelves for this whole month, and then they can buy like, 138 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: you know, chicken or some of those additive type things 139 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: to round out a meal with the fifty dollars. And 140 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: it's a way that they save up for the holidays 141 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: that are quickly approaching. Right, So it's like we're gonna 142 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: eat in, We're gonna just clear out our pantry because, 143 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: like you said, I mean, have you ever got I mean, 144 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: this is my experience. I'd go to my mom's house 145 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: and I would go into her pantry and I would 146 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: see something from like two thousand and and four, and 147 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 3: I'm like ah, and I'm like, like, you're what It's 148 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: like a can of olives and You're like, hey, I'm 149 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: pretty sure this is expired. And she's like it's fine. 150 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, Like, I don't think you should eat this. 151 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: Like there has to be some reason why we can't 152 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: just keep things forever, you know, But. 153 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: Can't you eat a two thousand and four tour Alli? 154 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I probably would. I'm embarrassed 155 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: to say I don't really check the labels that often 156 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: although my mother she uh, well, first off, she wasn't 157 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: a good cook. Nobody likes to say that about their 158 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: mother once. My mother was a bit, but my mother 159 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: was a terrible cook. Let's face it. She had six kids. Yeah, 160 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: And and she was kind of often doing what it 161 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: is that talking about just kind of you know, finding 162 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: some stuff and whipping something up. I mean, I think 163 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: that we're a lot better at making it taste good. 164 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: But she wasn't as good as improvising as you're saying. 165 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: No, And she would she would take things and she 166 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: didn't believe she's very much ahead of her time in 167 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: terms of this, but she didn't believe in like single 168 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: use plastic. And and so she would just take food 169 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: and just put it in a bowl and just stick 170 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: it in the refrigerator and sometimes it would sit there 171 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. And that that's the stuff 172 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: that I was like not not going near in a 173 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: case something that was actually vacuum fact or sealed. I'm 174 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: okay with it. And you know, I'll tell you something 175 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: interesting in terms of like, as we know, fresh food 176 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: often goes hand and often people who have food insecurity, 177 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: it becomes very hard for them to find fresh food. 178 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: There aren't places that actually have you know, fresh produce. 179 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: There are in food deserts often, yeah. 180 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: Food deserts. Yeah. But one thing that is true, and 181 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm not a nutritionist, but I can tell you that 182 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: I recently read an article which was had to do 183 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: with which was written by you know, smarter people that 184 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: me scientists saying these are the things that we wish 185 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: people would stop believing in terms of food nutrition, and 186 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: one of them was that canned fruits and vegetables are nutritionous, nutritional. 187 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: They You can have a frozen or canned or frozen 188 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: fruits and vegetables, if they contained a whole ton of 189 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: sugar like that's added, then possibly that's you know, going 190 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: to you're gonna have to kind of keep an eye 191 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: on that. But if you're talking about a can of 192 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: peas or or or a bag of spinach that's been frozen, 193 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: these are that you don't lose any nutritional value from 194 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: from vegetables when they're when they're frozen or can Apparently 195 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: it's some yeah, and in some cases it's actually they 196 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: actually have more vehements and minerals than they do if 197 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: you cook them down and cook them fresh. So when 198 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: I when I learned that, I said, well, that's really 199 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: that's interesting because it it means that if there are 200 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: things that are on shelves that people can get, you know, 201 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: some good nutritional value from those from those fruits and vegetables. Anyway, 202 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: good question. 203 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, all right. Question number two do you want 204 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 3: to read it? 205 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 4: Coup? 206 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: Okay? This is from Rebecca Graham. Kevin, you with your 207 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: wonderful family are so special? A question for you? Would 208 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: you do Footloose too? U? Footloose too has been done? 209 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 5: Has it? 210 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 4: Though? 211 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: I thought it was like a remake, you know, like, well, 212 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: what's your right? 213 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel your foot. 214 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 3: Loose two would be like a sequel like you are now, John, 215 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: let's go. 216 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: And I'm not banning dancing, not. 217 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: Your banning dancing. 218 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: But you know, like you're older, you've raised your own 219 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 3: your kids are are in high school, right, like I 220 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: feel like that's the sequel, right, like it's your son right. 221 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: Never say never. I think it would be a disaster. 222 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: It's funny because they they made countless Friday the thirteenth, 223 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, when I was in the very first Friday 224 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: the thirteenth. Then they remake Footlosts and they remade Flatliners, 225 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: and then I decided that they're just remaking all the 226 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: movies that I was in the beginning with F. So 227 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: if I do another movie that becaus with F will 228 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: probably probably, I don't know. 229 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: You know, a few good men, let's not. 230 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: Few good men? There you go, there you go? Well 231 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: that actually they're they're doing that too. No, yeah, I 232 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: think so that. 233 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: Just makes me angry. Just leave well enough alone. 234 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:21,359 Speaker 3: No, seriously, I have a couple things like Dirty Dancing, obviously, especially. 235 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: In my generation, that is like a classic. You watch it. 236 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: I watched it to death. 237 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: I watched it so many times I could quote most 238 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: lines from that movie. They remade it, right, they did 239 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: a kind of part two Dirty Dancing Havanah Knights or 240 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: something like oh yeah, right right right, no offense who 241 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: everyone was in it. But no, it was not Just 242 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: leave leave them alone. If they ever try to remake Breakfast. 243 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,119 Speaker 2: Club, oh, I will start. 244 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: A petition like, wow, is that one of your favorites? 245 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: That's my my yearbook quote? Was you know that closing 246 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: line of the movie, No, I doubt which of us 247 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: are a princess? A brain? The act of you know 248 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: a criminal and an outcast or. 249 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: Something like that. 250 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: Someone that loves that movie is actually really angry with 251 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: me right now. 252 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: They're like, you don't love that. 253 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: Movie this is the quote, but it shouldn't be remade. 254 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: But I feel like those are the types of movies 255 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: that are yeah, like on the chopping block, someone's going 256 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: to try to remake it. 257 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: M I may yeah, yeah, Yeah. It's a funny thing 258 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: with remakes because I kind of agree with you. There 259 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: is something about let's just leave well enough alone unless 260 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: there's really a really kind of fresh idea. But the 261 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: other piece of it is that in our business, everyone 262 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: wants intellectual property and wants to, you know, revisit intellectual property. 263 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: That being said, you know, I'm in Beverly Hills Cop four, 264 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: and I think that's actually going to be really fun movie. 265 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: I think I think it had Top Gun, you know, 266 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: when they redid Top Gun recently, you know, or I 267 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: mean so anyway, I don't know what the story would 268 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: be for Footloose. It would have to be you know. Actually, 269 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: they actually offered me a part in the second, you know, 270 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: in the remake of Yeah it was terrible. The part was, 271 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: and I was like, why would I be in this playing. 272 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. Like it doesn't. It just 273 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense here. I'm not I'm not really understanding. 274 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: So anyway, they I said, no, they didn't. They didn't 275 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: miss me. Actually I thought I thought the dancing was 276 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: incredible in that movie. Yet the second one was in 277 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: a lot of ways a lot better than what we did. 278 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: But anyway, thanks for that question. 279 00:16:54,920 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: And awesome, so we have a the special next question. Actually, 280 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 3: I received a note from Sharon Sawyer and Sharon was 281 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 3: writing in about her niece and her niece Kelsey, who 282 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 3: will hear about it because we have some audio clips 283 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: to play. But in short, Kelsey has had a really 284 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: has gone through some pretty hard circumstances. Right, So she 285 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: lost her brother to cancer when she was a kid 286 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: and he was a kid, and then in her early 287 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: twenties she lost her mother. 288 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: And she was one of. 289 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: These people who basically stared at grief and decided to 290 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: use it to fuel her to create pretty incredible impact 291 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: through starting a nonprofit. And so I read this note 292 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 3: that we had submitted and I just thought, I. 293 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 2: Need to call Sharon. I want to talk to her. 294 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 3: I want to, you know, hear her voice and hear 295 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 3: her talk about Kelsey and then following up with Kelsey 296 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: as well. So I want to share a clip from 297 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: that conversation with Sharon Sawyer where she really talks about 298 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: her niece, Kelsey's story and what she's done over the 299 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 3: last few years. So we're going to play that clip now. 300 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 4: My niece Kelsey took tragedy, you know a lot of 301 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 4: tragedy in her life and turned it into something really 302 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 4: really good. Kelsey and her brother went to camp when 303 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 4: they were children. And when they went to camp, he 304 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 4: was eleven and she was thirteen, and it was a 305 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 4: pediatric cancer camp that. 306 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 6: Is held locally. 307 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 4: It was what everyone came to say Cole, her brother, 308 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 4: Cole's best week of his life. And she loved it 309 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 4: there too because they had siblings of children with cancer 310 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 4: there as well, and it was just a place you 311 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 4: could be yourself and you could be around other people 312 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 4: that had cancer. 313 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 7: And her mother, Stacy was very, very. 314 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 4: Involved with this camp after Cole passed away, and Stacey 315 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 4: became president of the local. 316 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 7: Foundation that runs his camp and just had a huge 317 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 7: passion for it. 318 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 4: Kelsey, as well as my children and a lot of 319 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 4: people in our family, all worked at. 320 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 7: This camp retreat, you know, every year when it would come. 321 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 8: But the biggest need they had was a facility or 322 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 8: a place that they could hold it that was safe, 323 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 8: that was like ADH eighty eight approved, close to the 324 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 8: local hospital. It just there was not a facility or 325 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 8: a place to do this locally, and so they were 326 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 8: taking children to the upstate and it was just a 327 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 8: long distance if someone got happened to get sick, you know, 328 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 8: the week of the thing. But Kelsey and all my 329 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 8: Kelsey became just very passionate as every counselor for Camp 330 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 8: Chemo ends up getting for the children. 331 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 7: And that's where kind of it, that's kind of. 332 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: What drove her to try to help build this retreat 333 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 4: center that her mother dreamed of years ago. 334 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 7: After her mother had passed away. 335 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 4: You know, when her mother passed away, they immediately, I 336 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 4: mean it was very suddenly when her mother passed away, 337 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 4: they immediately started a foundation named after Kelsey and I 338 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 4: mean named after Cole and Stacy and then with the 339 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 4: idea that they would possibly donate it to a camp 340 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 4: or build a camp. And the next thing you knew, 341 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 4: they were flying with it, and Kelsey and others in 342 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 4: the community decided to support this idea and build Camp Coal. 343 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 6: And how much did they end up raising to build 344 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 6: Camp Coal. 345 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 7: The initial. 346 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 4: The initial capital campaign was nine million dollars and they 347 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 4: achieved that in under two years. When you're starting from 348 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 4: grassroots and nothing thing, it takes a lot to get 349 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 4: to that place. And there's a local family that was 350 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 4: just very instrumental in this. 351 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 7: They bought the Fawcett family bought. 352 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 4: The land that was donated to Camp Cole, which is 353 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 4: forty acres and they donated it to Camp Cole and 354 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 4: they bought it for this purpose. Their daughter too, was 355 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: a counselor at Camp Chemo and understood what it meant 356 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 4: for these children to be at camp for a. 357 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 7: Week, and so you know, it started rolling from there. 358 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 4: Those were friends of the family and friends at Kelsey 359 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 4: and her Dad's got new and they believed in the 360 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 4: dream and helped them a long way to get it 361 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 4: rolling on. 362 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: You know, Kevin, when you first started six Degrees, did 363 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 3: you ever think about, like how difficult that fundraising piece is, 364 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 3: Because like when I hear that nine million dollars, that 365 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: is a ton two days in two years, amazing, It's incredible. 366 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. It's that is a that is a 367 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: lot of money. Yeah, and and and it's something that 368 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: I honestly I still you know, I still kind of 369 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: struggle with a little bit. You know, obviously if you 370 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: if you're if you're doing well, you're going to be 371 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: on the other end of people asking for money, you know, 372 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: a lot. And I think that, uh, you know, what 373 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: people do with their money and how much of it 374 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: they give away or or don't. You know, it's a 375 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: very private, very personal kind of decision. I mean I 376 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: think that uh, you know sometimes you know when when 377 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: people I'm sure there's people that like this family, that 378 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: that go out and just say, okay, I'm just gonna 379 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: buy this this, you know, forty acres for for these people, 380 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: and they probably do it quietly and aren't really you know, 381 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: looking for a big pad on the back. And that 382 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: there's people that publicly, you know, will donate you'll hear 383 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: about it, you know, donate millions of dollars to something. 384 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: And and I think those are both really really super 385 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: valid ways in order to to uh to you know, 386 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: spend your money or or or donate. I don't I 387 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 1: don't pass a judgment on either one. Of those things, 388 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: either saying privately or being public about it. But I 389 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: do know that it's it's not in my nature to 390 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: ask people for money. It's just for some reason, it's 391 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: it's not I've always found a little bit uncomfortable. We've 392 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: talked about the fact that, you know, I never really 393 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: wanted to do sort of typical fundraisers, you know, uh, 394 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: rubber chicken dinners and you know, auctions and that whole 395 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: that whole way of you know, working with with charity. 396 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: But it is a it's that's just the way it 397 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's there. There's no way around it. So 398 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: to answer your question, I didn't know how difficult it 399 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: was going to be, and but I did know that 400 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: it was going to be something that I was not 401 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: going to, you know, feel all that you know, comfortable 402 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: with in my situation. Also, there's this other piece of 403 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: it I think if you know too truthfully, which is 404 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: people can look at something like asking for a donation 405 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: and I'll say, well, why don't you just you know, 406 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: why don't you just pay for it? You know? But 407 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: I think this is really this is impressive that in 408 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: that amount of time that they're nowhere, where is this. 409 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: Camp by the way, it's in South Carolina. 410 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: South Carolina m H And yeah, no, it's incredible, And 411 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 3: she touched on a couple of things in there that 412 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: I think were really powerful, and it actually ties back 413 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 3: to your point that you just made. I think sometimes 414 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: when there's a celebrity that's like a founder of an organization, 415 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: it can be even more difficult because of that very reason. 416 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 3: People are like, well, why don't you just like solve 417 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: world hunger yourself? 418 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: Right? 419 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: But the key that makes I think Kelsey's organization Camp 420 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: Coal and Sharing story so powerful is that all these 421 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: people were touched by the work of Camp Chemo, which 422 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 3: was this earlier camp that they experienced as kids, and 423 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 3: they were so touched by it because they saw the 424 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: way it impacted their loved ones and their niece and 425 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: nephew that attended it, and then family members got engaged 426 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 3: and other community members got engaged. And I think that 427 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 3: that's the key. It's like, if there was just one 428 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 3: source of throw money at it, it actually doesn't do 429 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 3: anything right. You actually need people to be inspired, yeah, 430 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: to have skin in the game and to roll up 431 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 3: their sleeves and want to stand like shoulder shoulder with 432 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: you on this work right, because it's not just money 433 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: to build something like to operate something like this, which 434 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: they'll get into. It's an immense undertaking and I just 435 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 3: think it's is so incredible to think that, especially a 436 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: young woman that was, you know, facing that type of heartache, 437 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: was able to turn that into something so inspiring. I 438 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: want to play a little bit more from my conversation 439 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: with Kelsey, because I got a chance to reach out 440 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 3: to Kelsey, who is a dolt, just as Sharon braved 441 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 3: about her niece, I'm just so so so kind, and 442 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: she shared a little bit about you know who she 443 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 3: is and who Camp Cole was named after, and you 444 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 3: know why she started it. So let's play that clip now. 445 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 5: My name is Kelsey Sawyer Cole and Camp Cole is 446 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 5: a camp for children, teams, and adults with illnesses, disabilities. 447 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 6: And life changes. 448 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 5: Camp Cole really started and was birthed out of a 449 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 5: place of pure love, joy and excitement. 450 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 6: So Camp Quoe really came. 451 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 5: About because at the age of eleven and I was 452 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 5: thirteen at the time, I had a younger brother who 453 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 5: was diagnosed with a really rare form of cancer, rapdomyasar coma, 454 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 5: and so with that diagnosis, we really saw our normalcy 455 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 5: in our daily lives kind of be flipped upside down. 456 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 6: And so for. 457 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 5: Us, you know, days were packed in the hospital. Cool 458 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 5: had multiple shots in the evening times. It was pretty 459 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 5: ill the bit I watched his entire kind of physical 460 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 5: physical stature shift and change, and so it was just 461 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 5: really difficult for my family and I to kind of 462 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 5: navigate this new sense of life in the way that 463 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 5: it looked. Fortunately for us, we were introduced to a 464 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 5: camp program that provides the camp experience for children who 465 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 5: have cancer in their siblings, and so that's really where 466 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 5: Cole and I were able to be with other people 467 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 5: who understood what it was like to be walking in 468 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 5: the shoes that we were walking in. For Cole to 469 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 5: be able to open up the doors and see other 470 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 5: kids with bald heads and other kids with ports, and 471 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 5: to have discussions over chemotherapy, treatment and oral medication, and 472 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 5: to talk about the realities in a safe space. For us, 473 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 5: it was just something I'll never forget. And then selfishly 474 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 5: for me to be around other siblings who knew what 475 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 5: it was like for mom and Dad not to be 476 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 5: able to make soccer practice or not be there to 477 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 5: pick you up after school. It was just this community 478 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 5: that could feel all the way that we felt a 479 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 5: lot of times, we found this an intense sense of 480 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 5: empathy at a time where our community was so incredible 481 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 5: to us, but they showed us so much sympathy, and 482 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 5: so for us, it just was it was a It 483 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 5: created these memories, It created these experiences at a time 484 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 5: where I felt like cancer took so much from us. 485 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 6: It took my family away. 486 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,239 Speaker 5: From me, it took Cole being able to participate in 487 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 5: soccer and skateboarding and swimming and surfing. But camp, for us, 488 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 5: it gave us something. It gave us friendships, it gave 489 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 5: us so much more. And so we came back after 490 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 5: that week long overnight camp and would not be quiet. 491 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 6: So Cole and I talked about it NonStop. 492 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 5: And that's really where my family saw the benefit that 493 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 5: camp can make in a child's life. 494 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 6: So my whole family got really involved. 495 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, about four months after that camp experience, Cole passed away. 496 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 5: But for us, once again, we were surrounded by this community, 497 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 5: this group, this family who knew what it was like 498 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 5: to be walking in the shoes that we were walking in. 499 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 5: And so that for us, maybe just an incredible impact 500 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 5: in our lives. Those counselors, those other campers are still 501 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 5: my best friends are still We're still in my wedding, 502 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 5: We're there through my child's first birthday. So it's just 503 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 5: been incredible to see the way that lifelong friendships can 504 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 5: really be birthed out of some pretty intense obstacles that 505 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 5: we have. 506 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 6: To go overcome. 507 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: Wow, that is some some story. What a uh I 508 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: mean talk about taking something so painful and so difficult 509 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: to even bear and you know, turning it into something 510 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: uh just kind of beautiful. And you know the thing 511 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: that I'm struck with. And when we talk about this 512 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: a lot with six degrees dot orger these kind of 513 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: grassroots movements because and I'm not I'm not you know, 514 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: saying this is not also this this would also be 515 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: something great to do. But you could also find have found, 516 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,239 Speaker 1: you know, an organization pediatric cancer research or whatever it is, 517 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: and started to do you know, fundraising in your own community. 518 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: But in this case, you know, she took something that 519 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: was so important, so experiential to her and really really 520 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: personal and built something that is really really super personal, 521 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, to her, And that's what was really kind 522 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: of so impressive about this. 523 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that a lot of what she talked 524 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 3: about was connection, which we often talk about at six 525 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 3: degrees as well, and that need that we all have 526 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 3: for human connection. Yeah, and I think that when you're 527 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 3: in that like kind of coming of age time period 528 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: of your life, especially like eleven, twelve, thirteen years old, 529 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 3: a week it can't can feel like one of the 530 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: most life changing things that you've experienced to date. 531 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: Right, you're away from. 532 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 3: Your parents, you have some autonomy, you're with your peers, 533 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 3: you are learning to kind of navigate in the world 534 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 3: without that adult in your life being there telling you, you. 535 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: Know nature, Yeah, sometimes it's your first yeah, disposure to nature. 536 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, absolutely, So yeah, a lot of friendships are 537 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 3: formed that way because they're experiencing that together. So yeah, 538 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 3: I think what they're doing is incredible. The other thing 539 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: that this camp does really well is how they structure 540 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 3: their camps so that kids that have similar lived experience 541 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: or similar disabilities are actually at camp at the same time, 542 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: so that they're around more children that they have like 543 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: this very unique experience with right, creating just more belonging. 544 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 5: Camp Cole is actually located in Columbia, South Carolina. In 545 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 5: so we love our location. It's able to serve thousands 546 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 5: of children that really range from a very wide variety 547 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 5: of different critical illnesses and disabilities. So we get the opportunity, 548 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 5: and I say, we have the privilege to serve campers 549 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 5: who have real genetic disorders, part and kidney disease, children 550 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 5: experiencing homelessness, children who've experienced severe burns. 551 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 6: So it is. 552 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 5: Very incredible to be able to see the diversity that 553 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 5: we have the opportunity to give those those transformative experiences 554 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 5: that spark the joy year at camp. And so we 555 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 5: really at the nucleus of Camp Coal were really focused 556 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 5: on providing an experience that otherwise would not exist for 557 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 5: these populations. And so for us being able to give 558 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 5: a child with a very severe critical illness an opportunity 559 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 5: to catch a fish, or to play basketball, or to 560 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 5: get on the back of a horse to hold a chicken, 561 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 5: these are all little things that I feel like so much. 562 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 5: So we are so blessed with a good, clean health, 563 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 5: and so when. 564 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 6: Something like this. 565 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 5: Happens in your family or to a loved one, you're 566 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 5: really challenged to think about wait a minute, you know, 567 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 5: health is such so important to us and being healthy 568 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 5: and living healthy, active lifestyles. And so for us, Cole 569 00:34:53,760 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 5: was very active, loved being outdoors, loved team building activity, 570 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 5: and loved his peers and being social and that was 571 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 5: something that with the critical illness all his things, for us, 572 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 5: it became a lot harder. 573 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 6: And so I really think back to. 574 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 5: Being at a young age, at the age of thirteen 575 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 5: and when Cole was eleven, just really seeing the little 576 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 5: things in life that we take for granted and how 577 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 5: do you remember, and showed a great gratitude and appreciation 578 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 5: for them. 579 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: That's beautiful. I mean, it's interesting because again this is 580 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: this isn't an example of someone that is taking something 581 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 1: super personal, like a super personal experience, and even taking 582 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: the details of that experience and shaping the the you know, 583 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: the foundation, the movement, the idea around those those very 584 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: very specific personal ideas. And you know, it is true that, 585 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: I mean, camp experience is not everybody get as the 586 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: luxury of having them, but can be you know, very profound, 587 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 1: even as you pointed out Stacey in a week and 588 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's also a lot of great impact 589 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: for the families surrounding the people that are the kids 590 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: that are going and you know, not just the not 591 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: just the kids, but the families that get a chance 592 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: to witness that or experienced that, or be able to 593 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: offer some kind of i don't know, respite from what 594 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: must be a really very challenging and difficult time. 595 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely. 596 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 3: It had me reflecting a lot in my conversation with 597 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 3: Kelsey about what we take for granted all the time 598 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 3: when you have a kind of quote unquote clean bill 599 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 3: of health. And you know, I've talked about this a 600 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 3: little bit before, but my mom was legally blind and 601 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 3: she was in a car accident when I was eight, 602 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 3: and so it was, you know, just kind of a 603 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 3: cute accident. Then when she came out of the hospital, 604 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 3: you know, she everything changed about you know, she couldn't 605 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 3: you know, be a nurse anymore. And she wasn't able 606 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 3: just to jump in a car and drive to the 607 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 3: beach if she wanted to drive in the beach. I 608 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 3: mean little things like you know, being able to catch 609 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 3: something on your periphery right and being. 610 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 2: Like, oh, there's a there's a dolphin over there, did 611 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,479 Speaker 2: you see that? Just jump? 612 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 3: It's like, there's no way she was ever going to 613 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 3: see things like that again. And I think when although 614 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 3: she wasn't a sibling, as a daughter, it had a 615 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 3: similar impact when you are growing up having to be 616 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 3: more aware of this person and create more space for 617 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 3: them and their needs. And it can be it can 618 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 3: be a lot, but it also can really help shape 619 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 3: you and make you passionate about you know, equal access 620 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 3: and accessibility and inclusion for those that are disabled and 621 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 3: are you know, do have ailments that we don't talk 622 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 3: about a lot in society, and so yeah, it's it's 623 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 3: just it sounds like a really beautiful space, camp Coal, 624 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 3: and I can only imagine that these kids are and 625 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 3: their siblings are having some of the best times of 626 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: their lives. 627 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, that's I'm so glad you reached out 628 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: to them. 629 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was let's tell you, it was a hard call. 630 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 3: I was like, I could not do this all the time. 631 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 3: It was very emotional, right, and I think, well. 632 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: Kids of your own, no, I mean, you know, that's 633 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: that's that's when this kind of thing really starts to 634 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: really starts to hit you. 635 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. And I've had friends that have lost their 636 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 3: their children as well from pediatric cancer, and so yeah, 637 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 3: I think about Abigail and Eloise and I think about 638 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 3: what you would do as a parent. But such an 639 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 3: inspiring story, and we're going to make sure that people 640 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 3: know exactly where they can learn and help Camp Coal 641 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 3: and Kelsey's work further with a great call to action. 642 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 5: Our call to action for Camp Coal would be for 643 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 5: people to get involved be a part of our team. 644 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 5: Follow us on social media. Camp Coal at Camp Cole, 645 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 5: South Carolina. Our website is campcol dot org. It is 646 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 5: not inexpensive to send these campers to camp. While they're 647 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 5: out here, we don't get to just say, wait a minute, 648 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 5: let's stop treatment for a week. Let's stop your medical 649 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 5: treatment plan for a week. 650 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 6: We have to do We rock on. 651 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 5: Even at camp, so we're really quickly administering the medication 652 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 5: and getting them back out to having fun. And so 653 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 5: that cost is something that prohibits some of our campers 654 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 5: to have this experience. So financial donations means such a 655 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 5: great deal to us. We're big on Amazon wish List 656 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 5: and getting those you know, the band aids, the bug spray, 657 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 5: all the fun different sports falls out here to Camp Goal. 658 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 5: So those are all different ways that you can really 659 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 5: help and be a part. 660 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 6: Of our team. 661 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: Stacy like I said, I'm so happy that you reach 662 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: out to Kelsey and shared, and Kelsey and shared. Thank 663 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: you so much for coming on and sharing your story 664 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 1: and telling us about the camp. Uh, it's it's it's incredible. 665 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 1: What's what what you guys are doing there and you 666 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: should be very proud of this work. And as everybody heard, uh, 667 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: those are there's ways that you could help. There's ways 668 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: that you can reach out and things that you can do. 669 00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: I can tell you. Let me just tell you a 670 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 1: funny camp story. Well you can decide if it's funny 671 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: or not. When I was in camp what it has 672 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: to do with things of a charitable nature. When I 673 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: was in camp, every year at this camp, they would 674 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:18,720 Speaker 1: do this thing called the fund and campers would either 675 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: pick blueberries or strawberries. It was kind of like a 676 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: work camp, and or they would forego a meal. They 677 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: would do different things that would raise money for a 678 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: specific fund that the money that these campers, either from 679 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: giving up or from working, we're going to donate each year. 680 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: And then campers would pick a particular fund and do 681 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: a little research on it to the extent that you 682 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: could I don't even know how you could research something 683 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: where we were out. There was no computers. Obviously, this 684 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about the I don't know, probably late sixties 685 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: or seventies, and and and then they would make a 686 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: presentation for this fund to the camp body and everybody 687 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: in the camp would vote, and then the winner of 688 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 1: that vote would get the money that the campers raised 689 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: that year. So the year that I was there, and 690 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: let me just say generally, it was you know, Save 691 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: the Whales, Save in the Redwoods Unise, you know, charities 692 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: like that. I decided that we should raise money for 693 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: the Black Panthers, and so I I stood up in 694 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: front of the camp body because at that time, you know, 695 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: the Panthers were doing you know, they had this breakfast 696 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: program that was you know, very popular. They were doing 697 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: a lot of you know stuff. And I stood up 698 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: in front of the camp body and then, you know, 699 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: I said, okay, folks, this is this is why I 700 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: think that the money should go to the Black Panthers. 701 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: And we won the vot vote. But here's the hilarious thing, 702 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: and this taught me a lot about the world. All 703 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the people that ran the camp just 704 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: freaked out. They were like, we can't give the money 705 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: to the Black Bess. I said, you have to. We 706 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: won the vote, and it went back and forth, and 707 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: this this big argument. They had no problem with me 708 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: presenting it, but once it actually won, all of a 709 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: sudden they went, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, this can't happen. 710 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 1: And so the compromise, which I was very unhappy with. 711 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: But you know what was I going to do I 712 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: was eleven years old, was that the money would be 713 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: divided between for the four charities that were presented. So 714 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: in the summer of whatever this was in nineteen seventy 715 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: one or this is in nineteen seventy there was probably 716 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: a check for about twelve dollars and thirty five cents 717 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: that presumably came from Camp Tree Tops to the Black Panthers. 718 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 3: I love it. 719 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: Well, there you go. That's that's my camp story and listen. 720 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: Thanks thanks for checking this out. See you next time. 721 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: Hey send us some questions and we will hopefully respond 722 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: to ask Kevin almost anything. 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