1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Are you one of those people who thinks it's okay 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: to drives down? I mean, what's the worst that can happen? 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: You end up driving below the speed limit, It's no 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: big deal, right wrong? The truth is your reaction times 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: slow way down. When you're high, you not only put 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: yourself in danger, but everyone around you. Talk about it. Buzzkill, 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Stop kidding. It's not okay to drive high. If you've 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: been using marijuana in any form, do not get behind 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: the wheel. If you feel different, you drive different. Drive high. 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: Get a DUI paid for by NITZA. Now here's a 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeart Radio and 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norry with you. 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: As I mentioned at the top of the program, United 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: States troops are going to be withdrawn from Syria. President 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: Trump said the Islamic State ISIS group has been defeated there. 16 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: I've got some questions about that. Some two thousand troops 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: have been there. Ground troops will probably still keep some 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: air troops up there, planes and things like that. But 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: the troops, they say the ground troops will be coming 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: out of Syria. We still have them in Afghanistan and 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: Iraq as well for the next couple hours. Craig Hewlett 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: back with us. He was the speechwriter and special assistant 23 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: for special Projects to Congressman Jack Medcalf at the time. 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: He has been a consultant to Federal Law Enforcement, DA 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: Homeland Security for more than twenty five plus years. He 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: remains a paid analyst and consultant in various areas of 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: geopolitical business and security issues, terrorism, military affairs. We've got 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 1: a whole list of things to talk with Craig about today. 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: We'll start with the Syrian situation. Craig, welcome back. I 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: hope you are ready for Christmas, my friend. Not really. 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: We don't really celebrate Christmas around here. By some presents 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: for the grandkids, but we don't. We really don't do 33 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: much celebration around here. I guess that's why I have 34 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: that reputation of being every part. I was going to say, 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: you probably jump Santa if he comes down the chimney, right, Well, 36 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: I would ask him to politely leave. Well, it's good 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: to talk to you and good to have you back. 38 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: I want to get your reaction for a little bit 39 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: about US pulling out these two thousand troops in Syria. 40 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: And what also confuses me on this story, Craig is 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: the President said that the Islamic state ISIS has been 42 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: defeated in Syria. Weren't they the ones we were supporting 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: to fight Assad? Yes, so, yeah, there was way too 44 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: much evidence to ever deny that. Now we even know 45 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: where we trained, and we'd trade them in the southern 46 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: part of Jordan where Dick Cheney discovered oil in Jordan 47 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 1: and handed it off to Israel rather than Jordan. That 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: area has been used for training these people we call 49 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: ISIS for a very long time. But unbeknownst to most 50 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: people in the United States at least, there's a group 51 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: out there called Isis Hunters, and I've researched them in 52 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: depth for the past couple of months. They do have 53 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: an odd, strange blog kind of tweet thing they're doing, 54 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: but they are a fearsome bunch. And the people that 55 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: are the fundamentalists that are part of those groups, like DASH, 56 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: which I believe is the correct terminology IIS, doesn't make 57 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: any sense in either language. But if you just go 58 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: ahead and understand them as militant fundamentalist Islamists that want 59 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: to overthrow secular regimes, then I don't really care what 60 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: we call them. But the ices hunters are the ones 61 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: that are actually making a great deal of headway. And 62 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: they are in large part mercenaries, and they come from 63 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: all different parts of the Middle East and North Africa, 64 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: and they're extremely active. But they don't get much press, 65 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: they don't want much press. But I've looked at some 66 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: of the backgrounds and they are a fearsome bunch and 67 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: they are taking them on head on the way you 68 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: would expect mercenaries to do. They get paid to do it, 69 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: and believe it or not ices is being aid to 70 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: do what they're doing. So we're kind of getting a 71 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: little bit Middle Ages here. We're using fewer and fewer 72 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: government sponsored troops actual military personnel. In fact, we have 73 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: more state security contractors deployed than US actor of duty 74 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: military right now. Well, now, didn't the Russians, the Iranians, 75 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: and the Syrians go after the same group that we 76 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: were trying to defend and protect. Yeah, Putin's reason for 77 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: going into Syria was the same reason I argued in 78 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety when Bush Senior went into Iraq and threatened 79 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: the other not very stable regimes in the area. They 80 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: decided what the Soviet Union's collapse of the Berlin Wall 81 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: coming down, that we could go in. Western powers could 82 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: go in and take over the Middle East, eliminating seven 83 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: nation state leaders, secular leaders leaders predominantly, and including their 84 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: conventional warfare making capability. We chose in nineteen ninety to 85 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: remake the Middle East. Now, I never believe that was 86 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: a smart thing to do. But you know, I have 87 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: no say. Nobody listens to me. I know, but I think, 88 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: you know if some people in Congress used to. But 89 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't think so anymore. I think we've gone off 90 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: the rails because I warned in nineteen ninety go ahead 91 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: and do what you're talking about doing. But you're talking 92 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: about libya'st Theriat, Irraq, Afghanistan, and those are on the 93 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: borders of Russian interests in Chinese interest and those two 94 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: countries are not afraid to go to war. They're more 95 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: prepared to go to war conventionally than any other nations 96 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: on Earth. And a recent study prepared by the RAND 97 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: Corporation asked by the Congress last year, it in fact, 98 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: I heard one of the admirals that was part of 99 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: the study itself that held right part of it he 100 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: was on a radio show, very short interview, and he 101 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: described the US military is not by even a whistleblow 102 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: chance of defeating Russia or China in a conventional war. 103 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: And then the argument goes from there, well can we 104 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: win a conventional war without using nuclear weapons? And he 105 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: said no, yeah, that's probably right. So so what did 106 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: the president mean when he said the Islamic state has 107 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: been defeated. That's just nonsense. Trump's not the only one 108 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,119 Speaker 1: that does nonsense. I want to be really clear before 109 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: we go any further. I don't believe Trump is any 110 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: more of a legitimate president than George Bush, Junior Obama, 111 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: or Bill Clinton or ridiculous as it would have been, 112 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. These people are not actually what you think 113 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: the president ought to be according to our constitution. You're 114 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: just wrong that the power isn't there any longer, and 115 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: it hasn't been for decades. So you know, I used 116 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: to argue twenty five years ago, it doesn't matter who's 117 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: in the white out, the thing we flippantly referred to 118 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: as a deep state, or some people refer to his right, 119 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: of course, it exists. Do you actually think people like 120 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: David Rockefeller or Dick Cheney or or George Sorrows all 121 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: those people. Yeah, you actually think that they stop being 122 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: political when they leave office and go into the corporate world. Again, No, 123 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: that's where that's where they build the power of the 124 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: corporate empire, and that's what controls everything that matters at 125 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: the White House level. So when Trump says, you know, 126 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to pull the troops out, he just is 127 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: likely in three days to redeploy five thousand troops. Oh 128 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: my god, we're still not his decisions. We you know, 129 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: we went into Afghanistan in two thousand and one in October. 130 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: We're still there. U seventeen years now, My god. We 131 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: went into Iraq the second time in two thousand and three. 132 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: We're still there. I mean, we never had any plans 133 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: to leave. Didn't. No, No, there's no exit strategy. No 134 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: nobody that looks at military affairs. And and believe me, 135 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, I don't read I don't read the daily newspapers. 136 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't listen to CNN or Fox News. I don't 137 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: listen to any of those people. If I want to 138 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: understand what's going on politically, economically, and militarily, I go 139 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: to the sources that report to the government and the 140 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: people who are interested at that level. I don't really 141 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: care what an opinion maker has to say, like Sean 142 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: Hannity doesn't interest me. In fact, it depresses me. And 143 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: I don't get depressed ever. But you know, Sean Hannity 144 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: and Rachel Maddow, I'm just I have to close my 145 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: eyes and just say, oh my god, what's happened here? 146 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: This is not right. I can't listen to this because 147 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: what's really going on it's got nothing to do with 148 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: what they'll ever tell you. They don't need to tell you, 149 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: the American people, anything that's true any longer. It's not 150 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: nobody even thinks that way any longer. It's gone so 151 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: far past it that they could fire seymour Hersh from 152 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: The New Yorker and no other newspaper even cared to 153 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: look at it or question it. He said, America's only 154 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: living great investigative reporter still breathing, And what was he 155 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: working on Russia? And he got fired because they didn't 156 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: want him reporting what they knew they were going to 157 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: report about Russia under the Trump administration, so they just 158 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: simply fired him. And if they could fire seymour Hersh 159 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: or Dan rather over George Bush Junior's National Guard record. 160 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: Then how vulnerable is free press in this country? Good 161 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: to good point, good points. Listen to more Coast to 162 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: Coast AM every weeknight at one am Eastern, and go 163 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: to Coast to Coast am dot com for more