1 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome in. I'm Doug Gottlie. This is ball bomb man. 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: We've got a great couple of pods for you. With 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Stanley Johnson. Um, we'll get to the NBA playoffs. As 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: so far Brooklyn is qualified for the playoffs. I do 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: wonder if it's a bit of fool's gold. You know, 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: Kyrie played unbelievably, so did Kevin Durant, and they still 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: kind of struggle to put away the Calves. Now they 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: got the Boston Celtics, obviously a step up in weight class. 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: On the other hand, no Robert Williams. That changes the 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: Celtics dramatically. Um. You know. As for the Minnesota Timbers 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: beating the Boss, beating the l A Clippers, I mean, look, 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: the Timberwolves look dangerously close to becoming a big time team, 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: but they're still a massive step away. Right Beating the Clippers, 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: who have been depleted all year without Kauai Leonard is 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: a great win and a great home within And they 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: have every right to stick out their chest. And who 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: has any who cares about them celebrating a wain? I don't. 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't make fun of them for celebrating getting into 19 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: playoffs with with a franchise that's been that down for 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: that long. Um. But let's not act like they've arrived 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: just yet. There's there's several steps between making the playoffs 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: and having arrived, so all that bravado becomes forced and 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: becomes false if they fall flat once they get to 24 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs. All right, let's let's dive in. Stan Johnson, 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: of course, was the eighth pick of the NBA Draft 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: of the Detroit Pistons. But how do you get there? 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: A high school? What? I love the expression all Solar 28 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: system player, high school American one and done player at Arizona? 29 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: And did he want to leave right away? Did he 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: want to leave midway when they lost to Wisconsin? What 31 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: were the feelings like in terms of when he wanted 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: to part for the NBA? Why did he choose Sean Miller? 33 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: Did he get paid to go to Arizona? Let's dig 34 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: in with all of it, with our conversation with Stanley Johnson. Yeah, okay, 35 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: so I want to get to this year, you know, 36 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: solidifying yourself as a Laker, all that you've been through. Um, 37 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: But you know, I think your background, your upbringing, what 38 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: got you, what made you who you are, is super 39 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: super interesting. And I think a lot of people in 40 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: basketball and who have followed your career now some pieces 41 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: about your mom, but just your earliest memory of basketball 42 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: is where is where. I'm glad you asked you that. 43 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: Um Man. I can just remember um as a kid 44 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: having a hoop in the house. UM. And the thing 45 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't say it's my earliest memory, but 46 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: I would say the thing I remember a lot like 47 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: the most I think that. I think something that can 48 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: like bring it all together for everybody, UM is. So 49 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: we'll be in the car. When I was a kid, um, 50 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: and my mom, like, you know, she didn't have the 51 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: money to send me to work out people and stuff 52 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: like that. And she's from the South, so she's like 53 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: fundamentals like jewish your left hand, tie your right hand 54 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: behind your back to to let you learn how to 55 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: dribble with your left. Um. So you know, she trying 56 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: to teach me the game. She played it and she 57 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: was she was damn good at it. Um. So we'll 58 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: be in the car and she'd be like asking me 59 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: questions like we're down to um, there's five seconds left, 60 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: Like what are you supposed to do? What movie are 61 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: you gonna go? To you know, like stuff like that. 62 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: Uh what I mean? I mean if I was down 63 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: to with five seconds left and it was our ball, Um, 64 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: it is funny. It never happened to me in high school. Um, 65 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: get the ball, you shoot at three, you make it like, 66 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what. I don't know 67 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: what I was supposed to do at that point. But 68 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: so so, but so, I know she coached you. I 69 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: know she was hard on you. Okay, but so so 70 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: let's say you're in ten, eleven, twelve, like where where 71 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: where was your team? Where are you living at? Where 72 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: you guys live at time? We had just moved to 73 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, just moved to Orange County. Maybe a little 74 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: before that. Um I was playing for the so called 75 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: Tigers that was her a you team at the time. 76 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: Um I might have been playing for a high Wickenny 77 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: spent at this time only twenty five and it feels 78 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: like it feels like a long time ago. Um man, 79 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: So like your your Tigers team that she coached. Who 80 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: was on the team, uh Me Granting, Billips, Tommy Nelson, 81 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: Max Redfield. Um, I'm gonna forget so many names here. 82 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: Chris ras he went to Utah, remember him? He went, 83 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: he went to Utah, Like it's in Utah. Um who 84 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: else were they? Just like they are? Yeah, they're they're 85 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: actually really nice. I remember because uh we you know, 86 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: my mom did everything. So I would go with her 87 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: to get the jersey's name, I would go with her 88 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: to print the shirts out. I would go with her 89 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: to order the shoes. Like everything everything she did with 90 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: the with the with the with the team was out 91 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: of her doing, out of her own pocket. Um some 92 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, towards the end, I think about twelve thirt 93 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: team from me, we started getting stensorships from you know, 94 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: Adidas and Thesess and some shoes and stuff like that. Um, 95 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: but yeah, it was she used to go to to 96 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: just get them printed, and she ended figuring out who 97 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: makes whoever? You know, all these schools get Nike jerseys 98 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: and they send them into a certain company to find 99 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: it out who who does that? We see? I mean 100 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: the jerseys were nice. She had a girls team as well, 101 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: a lot of her girls are a lot of her 102 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: girls Uh ended up you know, playing soccer, playing volleyball, 103 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: going to college. Um yeah, because because what you learn 104 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: is I think what you learned, and like I have, 105 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: I kind of like restarted my dad's program and I'm 106 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: coaching teams. I'm coaching my Saturday. That's awesome is that? 107 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: And I have some multi sport kids? Is that the 108 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: things that you're going to teach him about sports and 109 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: about work ethic and about playing together like they carry 110 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: over to any sport. Yeah. And the kids that like 111 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: the kids that resonates with, like they're gonna use it. 112 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: And here's the other thing about your AU team. So 113 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: it's crazy. So my dad, uh, we started he got 114 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: fired in college like a eighty four and then he 115 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: kind of bounced around and started one with my brother. 116 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: But like my group that we played that I played 117 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: with in for like, so Miles Simon, who I know, 118 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: trained you and coach you. Obviously this year he was 119 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: the first year of NJB. And for people who are 120 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: outside Orange County, southern California and JB, it's like it's 121 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: like it's like high level rack, not yet club level basketball. 122 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: But I played in the first ever n JB game 123 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: and and I high school and then Miles, Miles and 124 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: I played against each other in the championship um in 125 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: fourth grade and then his dad like walked over to 126 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: my dad and they we like joined forces and so 127 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: we played together all growing up. Right, the guys are 128 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: on our team, like um Adam Jacobson is associate head 129 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: coach at at at CBU. At cal Baptist, he played, 130 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: He was a great player at Pacific Um. There's Cameron Soup, 131 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: he played with us. He's been an NBA coach. He 132 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: played it at St. Mary's. You know we had Charles 133 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: O'Bannon of course played it. U c. L A. Re 134 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: Turner started St. He moved to Virginia, he started St. John's. 135 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 1: Like you kind of go through this list of dudes 136 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: and everybody, and then we have other guys that played. 137 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: Jason Reynolds played me in high school. He played football 138 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: Arizona State. So it's it's interesting on how guys that 139 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: are sports, guys that play together on youth teams. There 140 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: is something to the the ones that are one there 141 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: a little bit athletically advanced, but also the ones that 142 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: buy into some of the work ethic things that takes 143 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: the mentality it takes. Now, she was the Tigers because 144 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: of Jackson State, right now, did you know that's why 145 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: she picked the team as the Tigers. Yeah, she was. 146 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: I knew that she Uh, so our first colors were yellow, yellow, black, 147 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: and then um she put um the royal blue in there. 148 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,359 Speaker 1: Um for the Tigers. I'm not I forget the conversation, 149 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: but I remember I remember talking about it a lot. 150 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: What are um because there was other teams in the 151 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: in the way? Um? Because I actually I used to 152 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: play football. I just play ODDB football. Um. I used 153 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: to have to like lose weight and stuff for that. 154 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: I couldn't play Pop Warner. Yeah, while while I was 155 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: playing football during the football season, she put me an 156 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: J and B at the same time because it was 157 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: a little like, you know, the club team just keep serious, um, 158 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of club teams doing a lot 159 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: of club teams. So she didn't want to copy anybody. 160 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: So that took a little a little while. Um, we 161 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: would have been the same colors as Jackson State, but 162 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: there's a team out of it's hear heels out of 163 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: I want to say, like in the Inland Empire at 164 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: the time. Um that we're Carolina coach. Um. So she 165 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: didn't want to go back with the Jackson States like 166 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: Navy and white and black. So yeah, just so, Um, 167 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: what was she like as a coach, Like you know, 168 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: what was her what was she like in the sideline? 169 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: What was she like in terms of how hard she 170 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: was on me? Like what what was what was her 171 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: style of coaching? Uh? Tim, she was awesome. Um, she 172 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: was awesome coach. Like I get people come up to 173 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: me now, Um that you know loves her. He's my 174 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 1: favorite coach for sure. She was super super emotional about it. Um. 175 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: We practice hard as hell, practice hard as how uh, 176 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: conditioning and all types of stuff we do. We'll be 177 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: like we'll be like nine years old and at three 178 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: hour practice like track before the practice and stuff like 179 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: that is like the crazy ship in the world. Like, uh, 180 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know what's interesting is and 181 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys see it with the w NBA, 182 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: but like when you see the youth basketbat, I feel 183 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: like the girls are kind of tougher. Love them are 184 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: tougher than the guys. Yeah, they're there and there and 185 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: the moms, the moms that are hardcore, like their kids 186 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: are wait like these moms, like the dads sometimes would 187 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: be like you know, he would be I just had 188 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: a bat like the moms like nah af that like 189 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: he was sorry. I feel like, damn, I love this mom. 190 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: She's amazing. She's amazing. So okay, so you're you're uh 191 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: like you going too high school and now you're not 192 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: playing for Yeah, what was that likely? Because some kids 193 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: get the where they're always kind of they make eye 194 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: contact with their mom like for approval of their dad 195 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: for approval because they played with them growing up. What 196 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: was it like to advance to where you weren't playing 197 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: for her anymore? I would never like when I left 198 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: when I left, when when my mom left the program 199 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: for me, For us as a family, it was just 200 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: me and my mom. Um, that was the way we 201 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: paid our bills, like you know, so you know, me 202 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: not playing for the program was more of a decision 203 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: for me to get to a better place in my 204 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: career where it was for me to uh like actually 205 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: like you know, go to program the program, Like I 206 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: end up going to Aim High. Um, I did double 207 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: I did double time Aim High. I would Kennie Smith 208 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: for a while, um and then he, he and my 209 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: mom came together and ended up sending me to like 210 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: the Oakland Soldiers and Council Prema at the time, which 211 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: is like two and Nikes teams. Um, and I end 212 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: up playing for Dino uh Trigonis, which is like, you know, 213 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: everybody knows what Dio is, it's other California. UM, So 214 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't never never. Like my mom like 215 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: she still coached me, Like like I said before, like 216 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: we'd be in the car, she asked me about this 217 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: play and this playing, this playing that stuff. And she's 218 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: worked at door at the gym's UM where I play 219 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: at UM, so we're able to figure it out. But 220 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: it was definitely hard not playing for it was kind 221 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: of like the first thing UM and definitely helped me 222 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: because in that same year I was going through USA 223 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: Trials and all these other things where I was getting 224 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: coached by other people, and my mom was really hard 225 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: on me, and she really like, you know, some people 226 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: are I'm one of those kids who needed hard coaching. UM. 227 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: If it was you know, easy coaching and stuff I 228 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: get away with stuff, I would I would, like, you know, 229 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: mess around too much. So I think it was a 230 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: perfect time for me to start branching out. So I 231 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: think it was about twelve years old. Twelve thirteen always 232 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: played up. So the thing about twelve years old when 233 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: I started playing that was twelve eleven and twelve years 234 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: old when I started playing. Um uh the council preum 235 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: at first, we're playing fourteen you um under under under 236 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: like you know the under the u f b L 237 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: kind of like umbrella. Fox Sports Radio has the best 238 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 239 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the 240 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app. Search f s R to listen live. 241 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: So now you're in now, you're in high school, you're 242 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: at Mutter Day. You know, you're traveling all around the country, 243 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: you're playing high level au basketball. Um what what what's 244 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: that experience? What's that experience like in terms of like, 245 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: now you're a pro and you've made it right, so 246 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: like you have kind of the perfect perspective. What what 247 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: is the thing that that that helps you the most now? 248 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: And what was something maybe that um like, like I 249 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: feel like there's we make lots of comments as people 250 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: on my side of the industry, and we kind of 251 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: because we're older and we're like, well, they play so 252 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: many games now they don't matter as much. And but 253 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: but again this is commentary from people that aren't going 254 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: through the process. You've been through all this process Okay, 255 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: let's start with the positive. One thing that in those 256 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: tournaments and travel and different coaches and whatever helped helped 257 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: you get ready for what you do today. Mm hmmm 258 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: mm hmm. I just think like for me, it was 259 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: just like the love of basketball, Like like I learned 260 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: how to love basketball through all that stuff. Like through everything, UM, 261 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: I played a lot. Like I remember one summer, Um, 262 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: I was so mad that they thought I was like 263 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: bad at basketball or something like that. Um. I played 264 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: in every f and tournament I could. I'm talking. I 265 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: was playing every weekend. I played like from spring this summer. 266 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: I think it was like going into my junior year, 267 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: I was at Pain Goes, I was this, I was 268 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: doing everything. Um. And then, by the way, like you 269 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: meet all the people that I'm playing against now, like 270 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: like you know, it's like a big a circle in 271 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: the NBA. People always joke about it in the locker room. UM. 272 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: So it was like funding that set in that fashion, UM, 273 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: and you kind of learned how to compete. I feel 274 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: like because in the NBA, obviously these are the best kids, 275 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: and these are the best guys in the world, and 276 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: at some point in time, like obviously these are Jake, 277 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: these are four year windows, but you're gonna catch some 278 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: of the best guys in the world. Like I played 279 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: against Devin Booker, I played against Daniel Lot, I played 280 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: against Carl Town's Um, you know all like you know, 281 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: those are guys like come come first in my head. 282 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: Kelly uber As like one of my best friends, and 283 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: Justice Ones, all these guys I played against like every day, 284 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: every weekend um growing up and now you know, playing 285 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: against him in the league. It's crazy. They do the 286 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: same stuff, but there's really a lot better at it now. 287 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: And he's been doing that for ten Yeah, you've been 288 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: doing like books like if you're always surprised, like the 289 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: books been't doing that stuff for a long time, a 290 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: long time. And he's similar to right, his dad was 291 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: a great player. Your mom was a great player him. 292 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: My dad and his mom actually like went to the 293 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: same high junior high thing, senior higher high school. Crazy enough, 294 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: crazy enough show. Okay, So what's what's a negative? If 295 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: you could change something about the circuit about AU basketball 296 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: that would help guys like you, what would it be? 297 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: It was it's kind of like what you said before, 298 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: you said, like, oh you got and you know you're 299 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: in the league now like you made it, like making 300 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: it is not getting to the NBA. That's not making 301 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: it like it is making it. You get to feed 302 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: your family. And I'm but less out of this world 303 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: that I was able to. You know, I got picked 304 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: eighth and all that stuff like that. But making into 305 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 1: stain in the NBA and finishing the course, finish your 306 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: career here, um, that's making it in my opinion. And 307 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: I think with the AU and this you know, popcorn 308 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: microwave society we live in now with social media, especially 309 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: now with n I L deals and people are getting 310 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: paid out the young gang, um just get into the 311 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: league and having the cash being an NBA player and 312 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: being in you know what what we would call a 313 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: certain fraternity, um is like what what kids want and 314 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: they think they get here and it's all about you know, 315 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: it's all good, it's all good, Like at that point 316 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: in time, it's just goal a goos um and it's 317 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: far from it. Like it's far from it. And I 318 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: had the pleasure of this year obviously a plan with 319 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: these Hall of Fame guys all over the place, um, 320 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: and it's really refreshing to be around like that old 321 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: school basketball field that like you know that like really 322 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: put in the work and really like understand what's going on. 323 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: And it was no like popcorn anything this year. Even 324 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: though we sucked and we lost, um, like that's what 325 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: it is. But it was really good to have that 326 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: type of energy around. Like we we kept it as 327 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: much as we could. We try to keep it, um 328 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: as positive as possible. Why did you Why did you 329 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: choose Arizona? What was it about Arizona that spoke to you? UM? 330 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: Sean Miller? Honestly, UM, me and Sean just had a 331 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: really good relationship. UM. He recruited me hard at Hard 332 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: at Hell. We Uh, I remember I went on official visit. 333 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: It was just a guy I could trust. Like even 334 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad I made it because you have to end, 335 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: like I wanted to stay in college. UM, and we 336 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: were talking about it and he was just like, man, 337 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: if you're my son, and obviously like you know, you 338 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: have this opportunity, Like you know, honestly, I can't as 339 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: a coach, I can't tell you to to stay. You know, 340 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what coach would how many coaches would 341 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: say if sure, some coaches would. I know there's some 342 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: coaches that would say for sure, Um, but I'm not 343 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: sure how many coaches would, especially you know, I was. 344 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't like the first or second pick. I was like, 345 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, between whatever I was at the time. Um, 346 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: but he was always super super honest with me. Um, 347 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: really really cool with me. UM my family as well, 348 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: my mom as well. He My mom trusted him as well, 349 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: and I was like really big with me. Okay he was, 350 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: but but but help me, help me understand, because I 351 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: think what happens is, here's what happens. I do a 352 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: pod with you. I asked you about Sean who just 353 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: got the savior job right and every time? And your 354 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: first team All America. So the assumption is from people 355 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: who don't know. Okay, well, Sean just paid you. That's 356 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: what happened, right that. That's again I'm not making any commentary. 357 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm telling you what what a the average basketball fan 358 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: and maybe even some that we have lots of coaches 359 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: that listen to this thing and other players like Ah, 360 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: of course he was gonna get good with him. He 361 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: just he game. He you know, it was a round paperbag. 362 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: What actually how how I actually did it work? Like? 363 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: What what was the establishment of the relationship. How did 364 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: it work? I'm glad you asked that. And and the 365 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: thing is is it's funny enough. Is so when I'm 366 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: me and him, how do he came to visit me? Um, 367 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. At some point in time my senior year, 368 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean him, had a real conversation that I, you know, 369 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: I probably didn't feel comfortable happening with anybody else, any 370 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: other coach, I would say. So he brought this file, 371 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: like this big file from compliance right and every coach 372 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: anybody who says I got paid with the who what compliances? Um? 373 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: And it's basically every time he came to visit me, 374 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: or every time he came to see a game. That 375 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: joint was dating from the day I could be seen 376 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: until the day I to the day I didn't you know, 377 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: until I was done. And it was like file on 378 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: file on file on file on file. I'm talking about 379 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: every fight he took, every dinner he ate with Joe 380 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: and Book and all these guys, like all that was 381 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: in there. It was it was like it was like 382 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: two and a half year file. Um. I never tried 383 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: another coach and say like, yo, let me see your 384 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: compliance file, Like you know, what that What does that 385 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: look like? But if any coach ever had it like 386 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: he did, they probably would have showed it because he 387 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: put the work in for it, like he he made 388 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: the relationship. He especially jo Joke. Now me and Joe 389 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: p still talk, Me and Sean still talk. Um, Like 390 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: I really like like those dudes, those are you know, 391 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: those are like my guys. David Miller, Me and Dave 392 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: Miller still talk. UM. So it was way different, Like 393 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: especially being him being in the West Coast, it was 394 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: just a little different between um, myself and him and 395 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: the staff at the time. Um, it was a lot different. 396 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: It was a lot different, Like we put the time 397 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: in and obviously like I know a lot of people 398 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: who went to Arizona Mouth, Simon Derrick Williams, Nick Johnson, 399 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: like you know Aaron Gordon. Um, for me, it was 400 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: I had their relationships already. It was already easy for 401 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: us UM to walk around and especially after going to 402 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: campus in my first unofficial and seeing everybody like face 403 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: to face and you know, not just talking about Aaron 404 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: Gordon talking about myself. Um, it was a little easier, 405 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: like any relationship was at it was a little easier 406 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: than it than it was everywhere else. I say that 407 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: I believe. I believe if I went somewhere else, um, 408 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: other than Kentucky, um, other than Kentucky, I would not 409 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: be talking to them at this point. Everybody. I know 410 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: a lot of guys like Gonna saying no names. I 411 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: know a lot of guys who don't even talk to 412 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: their college, don't talk to their college coach, don't talk 413 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: to anybody around anymore. They were there for you know, 414 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: a year of transactional they left and went home. Um, 415 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: A lot of kids don't understand, like you know, obviously 416 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: it works out for me. It works out for a 417 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: lot of guys, but there's a lot of guys who 418 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: doesn't work. It does not work out for it. And 419 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: those guys in the transfer portal, those guys are um 420 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: going there four years and hardly playing and you know, 421 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: their dream of going to the NBA or playing overseas, 422 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: like year by year it goes away because you know 423 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: the relationship and the opportunities in there anymore. Um. So 424 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: it's a great it's a great point you make that. 425 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: I don't think I think people think that when I 426 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: say it, Dude, you're you're old man, You're old school, 427 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: it's like not not that way. Things are different now, 428 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: But the truth is, you do need a place to 429 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: call home. You do need a base for when you're 430 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: done playing right and uh, you know obviously you know 431 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: you go to Arizona, you're one and done and they 432 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: do a great job. When Sean was there and I 433 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: still and you guys are all super tight. There's a 434 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: true basketball family. But when you bounce school to school, like, 435 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: there's no real basketball family. It's going to claim you 436 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: when you've been you know, when you've been to three 437 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: or four schools. Yeah, it's just like loyalty in general. 438 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: Like who would like if you had a girlfriend and 439 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: you bounced around three times, she wouldn't claim it, you 440 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, like I know what you 441 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: expect from especially in college. You know, it's like one 442 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: of those things like I remember my mom and telling 443 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: me one time, Um, she you know, I had the 444 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: three schools and we had road stuff written down and 445 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: all this stuff. She's like, listen, like, you know, there's 446 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: three important decisions. You know, you already made one of them, 447 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, obviously choosing choosing Christ she was in God. 448 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: The next two will be getting married, and picking college. 449 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: Those are only those are only three two other decision 450 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: you have to make in your life right now. They 451 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: are like in your like you know, next thirty to 452 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: forty year future. These are important decisions like these are 453 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: very very important decisions, Like what your major is important. 454 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: So you need to sit down and like, you know, 455 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: do this stuff and like really commit to this stuff, 456 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: because there's only one time you get to do this 457 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: like this is there's only one go at the after 458 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: that when you get married to and where you go 459 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: to college at as one go after that, it's all 460 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: messed up. I want to ask you, I want to 461 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: ask you what your senior year? Okay, because you guys 462 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: went undefeated, perfect season, But there were some there were 463 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: some crazy games, right the Chino Hills game, UM Deep 464 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: played uh uh. There was the edawandah was like a 465 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: double overtime, right and that was the uh like like 466 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: a playoff game. And then of course you went when 467 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: if you close your eyes right now and you and 468 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 1: you think of eight years ago playing at modern day 469 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: on a on a for a perfect season, what do 470 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: you remember the most? Um? What I remember the most 471 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: about that season is there's been four of the guys. 472 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: There's a guy who there's a guy who, uh he 473 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: would go nameless today. There was a guy who ended 474 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: up quinting. I walked into modern day with what a 475 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: what a what a five five person freshman class that 476 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: we're all, um, you know good players at the time, 477 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: you know ranked or whatever, you know whatever they do 478 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: um for you know, creating players at the time. Um. 479 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: I left there by myself, and that was like to me, 480 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: I remember that the most, Like it was hard, like 481 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, winning and winning all those games and stuff 482 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: like that. But like how what we have at Mother Dame, 483 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: what we had and what they have over there now 484 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: still they're still winning a lot of games. Is just 485 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: like a family, so like you know, there's a system 486 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: over there, like we get you know, we get stuff done. Um. 487 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: But to me, like it was never really about like 488 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: I never really it was always about basketball, but it 489 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: was never really about basketball. Like it was really about 490 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: like relationships and friendships and building stuff like you know, 491 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: going my mom my mom kept at school, kept it friendly, 492 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: like you know, I went to prom, I went to 493 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: all these things, um, and I was just really like 494 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: I remember, like at the end of my time, like 495 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 1: I was in the hotel after you know, after the season, 496 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: and there was no senior there to celebrate with. There's 497 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: nobody there who had four rings with me. Um, there 498 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: was nobody there. It was like everybody like all the 499 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: win and all the stuff that we had did and 500 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: kind of deteriorated the family that I thought we had 501 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: my first year. It was it was it was it jealousy, 502 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,719 Speaker 1: was it was it guys just they wanted the ball more. Honestly, 503 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like go into all that, um, Like, 504 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: I don't you know, I really don't know for a 505 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 1: hundred per cent fact um as in any situation, like 506 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: there's a maturing process. When I started as as a 507 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 1: freshman at Modern Day, I did not start. I hardly played. 508 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: There's a freshman who played over me. I came in 509 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: and I played the five like I'm playing now funny enough, right, Um, 510 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: Like I played post, I didn't shoot, I didn't touch 511 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: the ball like you know, and eventually, like over time, 512 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: you just chip at the block, um and you get there. 513 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: You know what, you know what that's about. You had 514 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: a mom that understood it, that got the process. Whereas 515 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: there are a lot of parents or a lot of kids. Obviously, 516 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: kids sometimes don't understand the process, right, But that's it's 517 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: very it's very understandable when you have a not everybody 518 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: whose parents played, but parents that played. Again, it's like, look, 519 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: this is where you start and this is where you end. 520 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: You know, like you know, I mean, that's that's just 521 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: kind of how it. I mean, we talked about Miles 522 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: a lot, like he didn't play definitely his junior year. 523 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: He played varsity Diller's junior year, you know, so um 524 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: uh but and and his dad was a great player, 525 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: so he got it like they're good players ahead of them, 526 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: and he had to get better and he did and 527 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: he kept getting better. Um. Okay, so you you go 528 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: to you go to Arizona, you show up at Arizona 529 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: UM and you know Parker Jackson Cartwright another so cow 530 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: guy shows up. T J McConnell is there. Um, you 531 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: guys have a you know, you got a good, good 532 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: little squad. What are your what what what were your 533 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: first memories of going to the University of Arizona, being 534 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: away from home on your own? It was it was 535 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: a blast. Man. Um remember my first practice Sean like 536 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: he woke me up, man, was I was so funny. 537 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,239 Speaker 1: He just like I don't know, he just did this 538 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: thing and like it was so funny. He just he 539 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: just he started yelling at me, um, and I was like, 540 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: now I thinking about it, Like obviously it woke the 541 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: whole gym up, because like, I what are yelling at 542 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: me for? Like all I do was coming to the 543 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 1: gym and work out all day and you know, go 544 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: home and come back again. And I'm like, you know, 545 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm preparing for practice, like I'm 546 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: preparing for a game. Like I was there like an 547 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: hour before shooting getting ready for practice. I was already 548 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: swept before practice even started. So we're doing this like 549 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: two line drill going around the court um and everybody's like, 550 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, he says, all you gotta is all you 551 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: gotta three dribbles. I can get there if I get 552 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: a outlet pass I really need is one. So you know, 553 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: I throw the ball out, take my two steps dunking, 554 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: do it again, and then he stops the drill. He's like, 555 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: ste what do you think this is? They say't no 556 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: modern day anymore. This is Arizona. This is Arizona. We 557 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: get that, we get the bart you said it, let 558 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: me try to kick your ass. You need to you 559 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 1: need to boom boom boom dump the ball run out again. 560 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying stuff like that, Like it was. 561 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: It was. It was like one of my ricky moments. 562 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: I guess, um going to Arizona and I was like, 563 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: oh wow, Like I was like blustered for a second. 564 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: But me TJ. TJ was the best to me at Arizona, 565 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: Like he he was like there to help me all 566 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: the time, like anywhere I was anything I needed, like 567 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: I was obviously his fifth year as a senior. Um 568 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: he he was old as hell. Um so he was. 569 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: He always helped me like he always he was the 570 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: best leader ever. But if I would have told you 571 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: Alan told you, okay, when you show up and you guys, 572 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: you're playing like pick up, all right, that he would 573 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: still be in the league and Brandon Ashley would not, right, 574 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: Like what would you say? Like now, now, I wouldn't 575 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: be able to tell you that Brandon Ashley would not 576 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: be in the league. I would not be able to 577 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: tell you that. But I would be able to tell 578 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: you that t J McConnell. Would I mean, my friend 579 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: Adrian Stally. We have we have. We we had like 580 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: a little running like a little running joker running bet 581 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: um and I bet on him because I can just 582 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: you can just tell. You can just tell, like what 583 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: he was doing and how he played and everything he 584 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: was doing. Like if he has an opportunity to play 585 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: in the NBA, just get on the court. There's a 586 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: lot of optics and stuff that go in. But if 587 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: he's an opportunity to play, he's gonna stick. He does 588 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 1: everything right. He's the best. He's the best dude. Like 589 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: the dude has pure he's like pure as pure as hell. 590 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: He's the best dude um, and he can hope. So 591 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: it's like he running team and he can hope. So 592 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: it's like one of those things where you know he's 593 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: not gonna jump the high, he's not gonna run the fastest, 594 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: Like he's not gonna whire you in a in a combine, 595 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: especially in a workout. You know, he's just what he is, 596 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, but someone who cares about winning, like really 597 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: like goes home like I was in the room with him, 598 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: like I used to ruin with him on the road, 599 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: like Stu would be like distraught and like we like 600 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, get even close to losing or he played 601 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: like you know, have a turnover. He'd be distraught like 602 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: about it like like that, and I'd be like, you know, TJ, relaxed, 603 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: chill man, like we're good, we just won, like you know, 604 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna win again like whatever, like, but he'd be 605 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: like on it all the time. Um, so I kind 606 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: of like I always. I mean, t don't tell you this. 607 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: I told him all the time. I said, Bro, don't 608 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: worry about that, Like, don't worry about that. Just worry 609 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: about what we're doing here, and like you're gonna make 610 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: the league, like obviously you're gonna make we come on, Um, 611 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: he's done well for himself. So I'm not surprised, like 612 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, out of all of us, like ship me me, 613 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: Randa gave gave me, do you see, gave just may 614 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: He just he scored seven last night. He got the 615 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: game ball. He finally finally made it. Oh, I mean 616 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: I did not see that. And he gave York uh 617 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: the Pacers game the game ball. He was the first 618 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: NBA game, scored his first NBA points. Oh God, bless him. 619 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm happy for him. Man, he works hard at it. 620 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: He's that's been obviously all of our James, but that's 621 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: definitely been a dream for him. I know for a while. UM, 622 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: all right, I'm a fast forward because I know you 623 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta go to this was this is part 624 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: of it. Um, you guys had an unbelievable year for 625 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: people who forgot right. You won fourteen a row, You 626 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: won the PAC ten, PAC twelve, you won the PAC 627 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: twelve tournament, and you're you're playing in the Elite eight 628 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: at Staples. You're so Cow with a bunch of so 629 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: cow dudes with the hottest team, and you look down 630 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: the other end and there's Wisconsin. What happened? I got 631 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: poked in the eye? Was it? I don't REMEMBERHO poked me? 632 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: I remember poked me. I got poked in the eye. 633 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't care anybody thinks I 634 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: as long as I go once I live, I don't 635 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: get poked in the eye. That game changes for sure. 636 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: I got poked in the eye. You know, say I 637 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: don't make a shot. Sam Decker hits like four or 638 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: five threes while I'm in the lot in the back. 639 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: I actually end up coming out because I keep hearing 640 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: the crowd, and I know it's not our crowd. Um 641 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: we're up. I'm not sure how much you were up 642 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: or down or whatever. Um I got poked in it 643 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: always that's how basketball goes. Like, I'm not gonna be 644 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: don't excuse They're a good team. Frankimisky was playing awesome, 645 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: they had the left handed kid, the point guard was 646 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: playing awesome. Nagel Hayes is playing awesome. Um they're you know, 647 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: they're a good team. Who says we win the whole thing? 648 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: But in that game on that day, UM, I believe 649 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: if I can finish the game and play all all 650 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: the minutes. U at some point in time, we cracked him. 651 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: Um we beat him. That's just the type of game 652 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be. I kind of felt it. 653 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't playing great that game, but I was kind 654 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: of catching, like I was like I remember, I remember 655 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: feeling myself kind of catching a catching it, like kind 656 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: of catching like catching the ride. Because at that point 657 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: in time, I was so young, I didn't really like 658 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: understand like how to really like attack defenses and all 659 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: you know stuff like that. But I kind of like, 660 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, one thing I do remember, especially like versus Utah. 661 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: They had the same game plan versus Utah, which is 662 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: like boxing elbows when Stanley gets it, and eventually, like 663 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: I saw them start not to believe in it, and 664 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: it it was like at the top. It was the 665 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: top of the second half. I got poked probably like 666 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: mit first four first or second war. Every war was 667 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: four minutes, every like everywhere was four minutes. So like 668 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: probably like like around the twelve or fourteen minute mark, 669 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: I got poked um. And I wasn't the same for 670 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: the next two weeks. Damn sure, damn shore the same 671 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: in the game um. And as soon as I felt 672 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: like they were kind of ease off the gap just 673 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: enough to start cracking them gaps, I got poked um 674 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: and that was that. That was that wars are wars 675 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: are the four minute segments, right, and that's a big 676 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: Sean thing. Ye gotta gotta win each war when you're 677 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: when you're last thing before you go okay, when you're 678 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: sitting around the locker room, I think a lot of 679 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: people and again if this is the case, like this 680 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: is your forum, a lot of people think, well, you're 681 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: a one and done. You want everything in high school. 682 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 1: You lose a game in college. All right, I'm going 683 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: on the league au mentality, There's always another game. What 684 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: what emotionally was it like, uh in that Elite eight 685 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: locker room when you lost, bro Um? I don't know, 686 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: Like for me, I lost in so long, like even 687 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,479 Speaker 1: even high school, like a you like, I ain't lost. 688 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm not losing games in general. Um. You know we 689 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: won the Pac twel we did everything right. And for me, 690 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: I just felt like when I came to Arizona to 691 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: do I didn't do um and I felt like I 692 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: was a pro obviously I wasn't thinking about this stuff. 693 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: Like right in the locker roo, I was just crying 694 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: um and just really you know, my eye was I 695 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: feel like I got gouged, like I was crying and 696 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: you know my mom my, mom my dad, just like 697 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: talking about you know, also a lot of stuff going 698 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: on at the point in time. Um. But for me, 699 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: it was just like almost like like I told Sean 700 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 1: I would come here at least get at least get 701 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,479 Speaker 1: to the final four, like damn um and I didn't 702 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: do it. We didn't do it. So I was I 703 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: was just like I'm coming back, Like there's no way 704 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm leaving Arizona like this, like there's no way, there's 705 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: no way, no way, no how Like I was just 706 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: like you know almost like more like high school, Like 707 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 1: you know, I lost this double c IF in high 708 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: school and it was like okay, you know, bring your 709 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: stuff back together and you know, get on the horse 710 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: and come back. Yeah, I do it again. Um. So 711 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: that was my mentality, Like I didn't never I didn't 712 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: start thinking about the NBA for like three or four 713 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: weeks after the season was over, like I was working 714 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: out in college, like I was going to class, like 715 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: I didn't. Like, obviously, the NBA's on my mind, and 716 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: you know that's that's my aspiration. Um. But I had 717 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of jet leg from how 718 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: that thing went. Um in l A in elite it 719 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: was unfulfilling, Like I it was super unfulfilling m all 720 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: over for us. Um. I wish I could have that 721 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: one back. But obviously, like man, like what can you do? 722 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: Like it wasn't like a misshot, it was I got 723 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: poked in. I can't do no, no, like you know, 724 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 1: like yeah no no, but it's like I don't believe, 725 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: I don't But I never saw that honestly, I've I've 726 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: never watched the play over back again, i haven't watched 727 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: a game like I'm watching a highlight from the game 728 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: like ever in my whole life. Probably one of the 729 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: things I'm still mad about or something like that. Um, 730 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: but yeah, that you know, it's like I I don't 731 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,439 Speaker 1: know what. I didn't even know how to really even 732 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: to this day, I don't even know how to really 733 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: bring it in. Um. I think we were the better team. Um, 734 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 1: I believe that. I believed that then. I knew it then. 735 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: The only thing I wish we'd have done differently is 736 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: is not bring what happened the year before to the 737 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: game to our game, Like you know, Frank Kaminsky, like 738 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: he's like, by the way, Like Frank, I think he 739 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: was a player of the Year that year, by the way, Um, 740 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 1: he was a he was a motherfucker, Like Sam Decker 741 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: was a motherfucker. Nigel Hayes was a mother. Like you 742 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. These kids were good. Yeah, they 743 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: got that's front line. That's that's kind of good. Yeah, 744 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they're you know, they're good. And 745 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: Frank was like, you know, Frank was that boy was 746 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,959 Speaker 1: talking his talking and oh he was doing a lot. 747 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: But you know, this is not like at that point 748 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: in time, like I never believed like I'm who I 749 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: am and the guys who you had then this is 750 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: who you are, So like, you know, we watched like 751 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: a lot of film from the year prior and stuff, 752 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,439 Speaker 1: and they had like a game plan like for them, 753 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: like you know, weeks in advance, and I'm just like 754 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: more it was like, you know, to me, especially now 755 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: with my knowledge I have now, it's like, you know, 756 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: what if we get to Wisconsin, we get to Wisconsin. 757 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: If we don't, we don't, um, but right now we 758 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: should just focus on the team that we have and 759 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: what we could do. And we didn't, and that's why 760 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: he ended up losing. Like you need you can't just 761 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: be like he can't be five guys it has to 762 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: be like eight or nine guys together. And that's what 763 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: they had. People don't talk about Bronson, Koenick Bronson, number 764 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: twenty four on their team. He had like two or 765 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: three big shots in that game, probably had like eight points, 766 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: probably all the points he had, but like that was 767 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: the sixth man. We had nobody to cover him, like nobody, 768 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: so it was like one of those things that I 769 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 1: think we all learned from all of us in general. Um, 770 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: because how would be a year? Listen, you gotta you 771 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: gotta go to your meeting. This given me Part one. 772 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: We're do some more. Can you do it? I really 773 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. I'm not I'm not gonna be the 774 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:22,879 Speaker 1: guy's making you late. Okay, thanks many, Yeah, that was great. 775 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: That was part one. Um. In part two, we'll get 776 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: into a deep dive into the l a Lakers. Um, 777 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: how he actually made the Lakers this year? What was 778 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: wrong with the Lakers? How fixable are the Lakers? And 779 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook? Good teammate, bad teammate. We talked about all 780 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: of it. By the way, The Doug out The Show 781 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: is daily three to six Eastern cul three Pacific on 782 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: your I Heart Radio app, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports 783 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: Radio dot comps your Sex to seventeen and two oh 784 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: three in the meantime. Thanks so much for listening. I'm 785 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieben. This is all