1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: It's that time. Time time, time, Luck and load. The 2 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: Michael Verie Show is on the air. Luke, you will 3 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: see is our guest to discuss the end of the 4 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: legislative session. This was I think the eighty seventh. It's 5 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: every other year our constitution calls for a biennial one 6 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty day session, unless, of course, the governor 7 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: calls a special session. 8 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: Luke. 9 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: Do you see a special session in the offing? Michael, yeah, 10 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Do you see a special session in the offing? 11 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: I do. 12 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: The anticipation is that they might come to get in 13 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: August or September, definitely, not July. 14 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: The Trump administration. 15 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: This has now kind of gotten out there, but the 16 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 3: Trump administration has asked Governor Abbot to bring a special 17 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: session together to give Texas two more Republican congressional seats. 18 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: We have room to. 19 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: Do that, and as you can imagine, with the national 20 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: battle going on, it would be very helpful to have 21 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: one or two more Republicans from the state of Texas. 22 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 3: Almost all of our Republican seats are sixty seventy eighty 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: percent Republican seats that are, and so we have room 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: to squeeze in a couple more congressional seats and flip 25 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: one or two. 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: So the Trump administration is pushed for that. 27 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: And then Governor Abbott when he was at the Harris 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: County Republican Party Gala said that mentioned that a ban 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: on taxpayer funded lobbying might be part of his agenda. 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: That was another major bill that got killed in the 31 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: Texas House, never even got a hearing in the State 32 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: Affairs Committee. But the Texas Senate did pass about an 33 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: eighty percent ban is what they passed, and so they 34 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: got watered down by a number of moderate senators who 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 3: teamed up with Democrats to shape a portion of that out. 36 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: So I do anticipate at this point we are more 37 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: likely to end up in a special session than not. 38 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: It will probably be August or September. And at this point, 39 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: if redistricting and taxpayer funded lobbying are on it, then 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: we should all be pretty grateful to Governor Abbott because 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: those are those are some great policies. 42 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: If we could get two. 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: More Republican congressmen and a ban on taxpayer funded lobbying, 44 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 3: that would make for a strong finish to the session. 45 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: The two congressional seats will turn out to be incredibly 46 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: important very soon, and I hope we can accomplish that. 47 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: As for taxpayer funded lobbying, the history and I know 48 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: you know this, but for folks who don't know the 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: history on that, I don't think Abbott would have taken 50 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: this position as strongly as he has. But the school 51 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: voucher bill had opposition from the public schools, and public 52 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: schools were funding lobbying, and I think more than anything else, 53 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: that's what he is working against. But Greg Abbott has 54 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: had a tendency to say something and not follow through. 55 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't tell anybody to hold your breath on 56 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: that issue. Let's talk about Dan Patrick's Himp bill. Your 57 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: thoughts on that. 58 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I know a lot of people have very 59 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: strong opinions on this bill. I didn't start the session 60 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: would this being the legislative priority, and so it has 61 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: not been an issue that I have cared deeply about 62 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: throughout the session. I will just say that as a whole, 63 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: I lean more toward getting rid of a lot of 64 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: these stores than not. 65 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: I do think that what we really have is kind 66 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: of a lesson in self governance. 67 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: Ultimately, there was this kind of loophole that opens up 68 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, every retail strip center in 69 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 3: Texas has a CBD, you know, weed shop that people 70 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: are going in, and so I'm on the side of 71 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: thinking that that's that's not what we legalized in Texas. 72 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: I don't think that's what the legislature mental legalize. And 73 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: I think that people basically abusing the freedom they had 74 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: opened up this issue to be as big an issue 75 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: as it is. So I'm more toward in favor of 76 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: the bill than i am against it. 77 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: I think we will. 78 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: Of course you probably have been following this closely, but 79 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: we're days away from knowing whether the governor is going 80 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: to sign it, let it go into law without his signature, 81 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: or veto that bill, and he has made it clear 82 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 3: that he's heard concerns from both sides. There was an 83 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: expansion of the teacup program, which I'm sure you followed, 84 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 3: the Texas Compassionate Use program, and I think that doctor 85 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: Olivers and Tony Tinderholt, who is a veteran and has 86 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: a lot of people that are using this in a 87 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: good way, fought to have that program pretty significantly expanded 88 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 3: to make sure that veterans still had access to those services. 89 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: So that's I think where we're likely. I don't really 90 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: truly know where it's going to end up. 91 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: Go ahead, but let's let's talk about making sure that 92 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: veterans have uh access to What we're talking about is 93 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: access to the benefits of THHC. Now, the problem I 94 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: have with this is that Dan Patrick is speaking out 95 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: of both sides of his mouth. He says uh. He 96 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: starts by saying, marijuana's the devil. Everybody's going to die. 97 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: He holds it up with his handshaking and say would 98 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: you take this? Would you take this? You could die? No, 99 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: you couldn't die. But he said, he's he's shaking his 100 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: hands with the little marijuana treats and saying, would you 101 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: take this? And the reporters are going, yeah, we've all 102 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: taken it, is nothing wrong with you. Would you're crazy? 103 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: You would die? Okay, so marijuana, this is reefer madness. 104 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: We're all going to die. And then he comes back 105 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: and says, and then they go, but what about all 106 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: these veterans who are suffering and are finding relief with this. 107 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: It's a medical miracle. And they say, and he goes, oh, well, 108 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: we will preserve marijuana. Well, what aren't they going to die? 109 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: If we preserve. But we're gonna preserve that. But first, 110 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: the teacup exemption requires that you go through a series 111 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: of prescription medications. It requires that you do things that 112 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: are highly addictive, which marijuana is not, and highly disruptive 113 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: to the treatment people are already getting. So it's one 114 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: or the other. And the problem is he's trying to 115 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: have his cake and eat it too. He's trying to 116 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: win favor with the liquor industry, which is where this 117 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: whole thing came from. And look, I love those guys. 118 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: I know all those guys. I love them, I love 119 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: their products, I love their business. I want to see 120 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: them succeed. But let's be honest. I don't believe this 121 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: came from Luke Masius worried that at a strip center 122 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: there's a weed shop. This came from the liquor industry 123 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: that has said to every their lobbyists have admitted this. 124 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: The lobbyists have gone in and talked to state reps 125 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: and state senators and said, look, here's the deal. It's 126 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: killing liquor sales. That that's the problem. And so the 127 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: beer and wine and retailers don't want it because those 128 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: weed shops are it turns out that some number of 129 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: people I'm not one of them because it doesn't do 130 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: for me what alcohol does. But some number of people 131 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: just like me who spend a lot of money on 132 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: booze are instead going and buying weed, and the liquor 133 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: companies are seeing it on the bottom line. And that's 134 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: all this is about. And that look, Dan Patrick, do 135 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: whatever he wants, but to burn our coalition that we've 136 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: all worked hard to get to on behalf of something 137 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: that the base is not for. In fact, I saw 138 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: a poll last week of a majority of Republicans. Just 139 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: Republicans are against the bill. So why spend so much 140 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: capital on something that doesn't get us down the road? 141 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: That's frustrating to me. 142 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: I understand the frustration. There were a number of issues 143 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: that I think conservatives did not appreciate the Senate spending 144 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: the time on. 145 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: This was one of them. 146 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: The other one was the movie incentive industry expansion of 147 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: half a billion dollars. I think it ended up at 148 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: three hundred billion dollars for the next two years that 149 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: we're going to spend on paying Hollywood to make more 150 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: of their films here in Texas. 151 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: Things like that, It uh it is going to be interesting. 152 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: Hold with me for just a moment, Luke, to see 153 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: us as us. 154 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 4: They like like a Berry shop. 155 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: And the lone Darby. You can see this as our guest. 156 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: We're talking about the Texas legislative session that just concluded, Luke. 157 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how else to ask this. A number 158 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: of people feel that Dan Patrick may not be intending 159 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: to run for reelection. There's some thought as to whether 160 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: this HMP bill was something you would have that one 161 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: would take up because it was so unpopular with base 162 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: give in fact, you were there was an event where 163 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: he had Brandon Crayton and he introduced him as the 164 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: guy he would want to replace him. There have been 165 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: some very odd things to happen. Dan and I are 166 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: not best friends by any measure, but I would consider 167 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: as having been friendly. I hate the HMP bill and 168 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: he knows that. But do you since you know he's 169 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: in his seventies, which not just so is Trump, but 170 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: do you sense that he's coming back for another session 171 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: for another time. 172 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: I believe he is. 173 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe he is. 174 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: There have been a lot of different people that have 175 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 3: rumored about his decision and where he will end up. 176 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: But Ultimately, I think he is going. 177 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: To come back. 178 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: He was just talking about this a couple of days ago. 179 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: I remember the media said, are you going to be 180 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 3: back next session? 181 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: He said yes. 182 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: I would just say the things that he's doing he's 183 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: already endorsing. He went and worked hard to get Dennis 184 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: Paul into that feet, replacing Mace Middleton, to try to 185 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: make sure some of the more moderate people thinking about 186 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 3: running didn't jump in. He's acting as somebody who intends 187 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: to continue to try to govern this state. And I 188 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: will say this about Dan Patrick because yes, I disagree 189 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: with them on the film incentives. I understand a lot 190 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: of people's frustration with them on the THHC Bill, even 191 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: though something that I lean. 192 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: More towards supporting. 193 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 3: But as a whole, when we talk about the things 194 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: that we got out of this session, whether it's the 195 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: China land ban, whether it's getting all this stuff out 196 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: of our schools and the filth that ban on taxpayer 197 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: funded lobbing, the pass even the election integrity stuff. The 198 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: House killed a lot of bills, but those were the 199 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: same bills that passed the Senate. Dan Patrick still delivers 200 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: eighty to ninety percent of the Conservative policy wins we 201 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: want every single session, and so there are policies that 202 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: people disagree with them on, but he has been a 203 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: force that has moved our state pretty significantly to the 204 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: right over the last ten years. It is going to 205 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 3: be interesting to see kind of what happens over the 206 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: next coming sessions. I anticipate him and Governor Abbitt both 207 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: running for reelection and serving for another four years, which 208 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: will make them the longest serving governor. 209 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: And lieutenant governor in Texas history. 210 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: So we will be under this very unique window in 211 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: time with having the same lieutenant governor and governor for 212 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: many people, like their entire political careers have been under 213 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 3: just these two men. 214 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: Yep, No, and I would concur with all of that. 215 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: I think that if he had not been the lieutenant governor, 216 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: the Paxton trial would have ended differently. I think there 217 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: are a number of issues like that, and I don't 218 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: believe what's interesting Unlike Bullock, who was an or hobby, 219 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: but particularly Bullock, I think he gets things done because 220 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: his fellow senators trust him and respect him, and not 221 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: by bullying them. And and that's that's a unique leadership trait, 222 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: you know, because you got a lot of egos in 223 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: the In the Texas. 224 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: Centate you mentioned Brandon Creighton, people do mention him often 225 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: as a potential replacement of the Patrick. I think as 226 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 3: somebody who's carried the school choice bill, apprenabile of rights, 227 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: A lot of this substantive conservative policy is carried by 228 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 3: Senator Creighton. People from Houston definitely see him as somebody 229 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 3: who could be a conservative replacement for Dan Patrick. 230 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: No doubt. So the elephant in the room is that 231 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: we didn't get any real property tax reform. And that's 232 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: what I hear about more than anything else. And it 233 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: felt like Republicans didn't even want to talk about it 234 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: because they didn't that all they wanted was school vouchers, 235 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: and so it was as if property tax reform just 236 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: wasn't going to happen. I find that very frustrating, and 237 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a swing and a miss with 238 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: the legislative session. 239 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 3: Your thoughts, So this next week on Wednesday, I'll release 240 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: my podcast Will to Be the Bad, right, the good, 241 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: the bad, and the ugly. And for me, the bad 242 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: is fiscal policy. It's all fiscal Our budget significantly grew. 243 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: It's not just that we only provided seven or eight 244 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: billion dollars of new property tax relief. 245 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: It's actually that we spent so much money. 246 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: If we came in with an eight billion dollar surplus 247 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 3: and returned all eight billion dollars to property tax payers, 248 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: then there would be maybe some level of understanding that 249 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 3: the average taxpayer could have to say, hey, you know what, 250 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: you gave it all back. In this case, they came 251 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: in with a neyear twenty four billion dollar surplus, they 252 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: returned eight billion. The rest of it went to growing 253 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: government pretty substantially, not only within our state budget, but 254 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: they created. 255 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: All these new funds. 256 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: And the reason they create all these new dedicated funds 257 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: is that those don't apply to the spending limit cap, 258 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: and so they get to spend billions of dollars in 259 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: all these projects without actually applying it to what they're 260 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: limited to spending growth wise. And then the campaign on 261 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: we have a conservative budget, but the reality is we're 262 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: growing by leaps and bounds state spending across the board. 263 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: I think that's the biggest missed opportunity and something that 264 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: I think needs to be a focus the grassroots. When 265 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: we pick an issue or two to focus on, we 266 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: can really help shape the conversation going into a session. 267 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 3: The issues for conservatives for so long has been that 268 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 3: the House has killed so much that everything's on the list. 269 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: And I know you know this, but you're talking to 270 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 3: your listeners saying, they killed the stuff that's going to 271 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: protect your kids from the trainees. They killed the China 272 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 3: land band, they killed all the election integrity, they killed 273 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: tax payer funded lobbying, they killed property tax reform. So 274 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: the benefit to having a session where we got maybe 275 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: fifty percent of what we asked to get done is 276 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: that it takes those things off the table and we 277 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: don't have to spend the next few years talking about 278 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: China landownership. Instead, we can shift to honing and focusing. 279 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: To me, the message on a number of issues, and 280 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: one of those top issues has to be properties ex Really, 281 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: if that way, when they come back, they know there 282 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: is no way they can leave without having done something real, 283 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: substantive to lower the average person's tax bill. 284 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: Fair enough, Luke Messius, thank you for your time. Keep 285 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: up the great work. I love your stuff. I read 286 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: it regularly. Many is the time I intend to write 287 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: you a note and say it was a very good 288 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: perspective in my opinion on an issue of the day. 289 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: I think you and I, in fairness probably disagree on 290 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: the extent to which social policy should be pushed pushed 291 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: versus fiscal Uh. But I think you are a very 292 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: You are a force for good out there, and I 293 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: appreciate your work, my man. 294 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, Michael, God bless you. 295 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: Luke Matthias m A c I A. S. You can 296 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: find him online. He has, as I mentioned, a blog, 297 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: and he has a podcast, and he speaks a lot 298 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: on issues related to Texas government. 299 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: Uh. 300 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: And I think I think he's a he's a good dude. 301 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: He's a good dude. 302 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 303 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: I think we got everything accomplished in that conversation that 304 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: we needed to. I will be talking to two other 305 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: folks about this state legislative session, Brandon Walton's at uh 306 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: Texas Scorecard and also Michael quinn Sullivan at Texas Corecard. 307 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: I think they both do a fantastic job of covering 308 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: the session and they're there all day every day. When 309 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: I on City Council, I used to find it interesting 310 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: that there would be people who would write about what 311 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: was happening at City Hall, but they weren't there and 312 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: they didn't know what deal was being cut by you 313 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: really have to stay on things day in and day 314 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: out to catch a lot of the nuances. And these 315 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: folks do that. 316 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: The Interiol, the butterflies with the Michael Berry. They're all Duncans, 317 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: and you know Duncan means yo yo, you can. 318 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: You know, there's Grumpy ramon Dan Pastorini. A guy sent 319 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: me an email and said, hey, we went to this 320 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: place and this woman was singing. Her name was June. 321 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: She was married to Dan Pastorini. So I forwarded it 322 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: to him and he sends back anybody who gets an 323 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: email from me or Emily. At the bottom, it says, hey, 324 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: follow our Facebook. 325 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: Here. 326 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: We got a new Facebook page because Facebook shut us down, 327 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: so we had to start over. And here's our page 328 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: where you can buy merch or see our sponsor list 329 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: and all this. And he sends me an email, I 330 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: already know all your sponsors, I already own all your 331 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: merch and I already follow you on Facebook. I know 332 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: that's my signature line. Email of the day Mike Rethmeier. 333 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: We were talking about concepts we would like to see 334 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: brought back, or that we would like to see. He 335 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: says Steak and Ale should be resurrected. He's not the 336 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: only one by of them. He says. I'm late to 337 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: the party as usual. I worked for Snake and Tail 338 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine. Great place to work. Every lunch 339 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: and dinner was busy. Our four night a week house 340 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: band was trout fishing in America. We had some very 341 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: hot cocktail waitresses. I attended bar for them from seventy 342 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: nine to eighty one. I started at age seventeen. It 343 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: was glorious. Sna invented the salad bar. Maybe some other 344 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: people want to quibble on that, but that's what he says. 345 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: They had very good food at a reasonable price, plus 346 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: a great bar and lounge setups. Parenthesis aside, I got 347 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: robbed at gunpoint twice the same store south of Bisonette 348 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: on Southwest Freeway. I lost my friend Bob Reid to 349 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: a robbery gombat at the store in Terrance County. His 350 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: murderer is still on death row up by Livingston. My 351 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: sister married my friend Craig Kerrey. We all three worked 352 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: there together. I do not hold these incidents, Jermaine to 353 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: the conversation as it is. I got history in parenthesis. 354 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: Claire Close, Princess honorable mention to Shakey's Pizza. That's our 355 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: email of the day. Then my private investigators sent me 356 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: a picture of him singing The Wonder of You by Elvis. 357 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: Then we've got somebody needed a show sponsor referral. We 358 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: were talking about concepts we'd like to see brought to 359 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: Houston or brought back, and ramones were street food. Number 360 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: two was a modern cafe, which we have. Also in 361 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: number three was what oh dinner? 362 00:18:58,880 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: In the show? 363 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: Yes, say it like it's obvious. If I had remembered, 364 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have asked you, Jackie, why don't you dan 365 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: Passrien and just go sit together and just go. Y'all 366 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: just grumble. You can say hey, number seven and he 367 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: can go, and that'll be y'all's conversation, like like Peanuts 368 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: that the teacher wan hu, y'all, y'all can just do 369 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: that for a while, that'll be That'll be y'all's grunt, 370 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: your your form of communication. Uh, let's see benefit of 371 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: camp hope. Let's see great diners. What we what we 372 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: need to see back great diners, the pig stand and 373 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: Triple A diner. Triple A used to be over there 374 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: in kind of in the heights, like on North Shepherd. 375 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: Did you ever go there? It was black owned and 376 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: primarily old white people with some black people. 377 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: B W. 378 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: Says, I used to like eat S's on Post Oak 379 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: and sam Phillippi. Everything was served to go style from 380 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: the counter. The food was always fresh and there was 381 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: tons to choose from. Log Cabin Restaurant off fifty nine 382 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: North and Old Humble Road, Humble Road, Humble Buffet, fried chicken, 383 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: chicken and dumplings, vegetables served to you at the table. 384 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: See people miss the cafeteria. There's a restaurant with a 385 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: steam table called Mom's Country Kitchen on Aldan Bender at 386 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: Aldan Westfield. They have several meats to choose and a 387 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: bunch of sides. Pick a meat, three sides, a roll 388 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 1: in a dessert sixteen dollars. This place is old school 389 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: and has a big following. That's from Lawrence Paget Ramon. 390 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Stephen Arnold says, you've probably been there. But Shandy's in 391 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: the Heights. She used to be at Cafe Express and 392 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: eighty percent of her menu will remind you of Cafe Express, 393 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: but better not sure about the black Kurant tea. She 394 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: used to be at Westcott and Memorial small business owner 395 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: just asked Johnny Carraba. Yeah, I know exactly where she 396 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: used to be. She used to tell old people and 397 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but we used to live at 398 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: a house at one Crestwood, which was my dream home. 399 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: And it was an all glass house with steel. Well 400 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: it was a glasshouse like it looked like a glass 401 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: pyramid and it was not a pyramid. It was it 402 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: was a glass. Everywhere was glass, and it was steel beams. 403 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: And the reason it was steel beams is because it 404 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: was owned by a guy named Oh, I just forgot 405 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: his name, Andre, No, shut up, stop Andre, Andre Crispin. 406 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: Andre Crispin was his name. And Andre was a steel 407 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: importer from Belgium. Fascinating guy. And he had built this 408 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:52,239 Speaker 1: house using his he built, he supplied steel. And the 409 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: architect who used the most steel was a guy named 410 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: Talbot Wilson. Talbot Wilson's famous because he was in his 411 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: mid twenties when he was one of the architects of 412 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: record on the Astrodome. And Talbot Wilson's claim to fame 413 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: was the span of the Astrodome, which had never been 414 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: seen before. The reason you'd never had an indoor stadium 415 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: like that is, because you couldn't span the roof without 416 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: having I still don't know how they did it, and 417 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: I've been told by engineers and architects, and I still 418 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: don't understand it, even after I'm told. Anyway, that was 419 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: our dream home and it was all glass and it flooded. 420 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: It wasn't supposed to flood. We were sixty one feet 421 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: above the Bayu. It's right on the bayou, and we 422 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: were not supposed to flood. And we were sixty one 423 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: feet above the bayu. And the line, it was the 424 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: highest it could ever go up, was supposedly fifty eight feet. Well, 425 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: lo and behold, it came up sixty four and everything 426 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: from my children's childhood, from my wife's childhood, everything, all 427 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: our old documents, everything finished washed away. Anyway, so we moved. 428 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: We moved way out west after that. But Shandy used 429 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: to tell people that, yeah, Michael Berry. They'd say, you 430 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: ought to have Michael Berry come in here and talk, 431 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: eat here and talk about it. He would love this. 432 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: And she would say, yeah, he lives right around the corner. 433 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: I was trying to buy his house when he bought it, 434 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: and I don't under the house was on the Market. 435 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: It was always like I had done something wrong and 436 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: people would tell me that story. I never understood it. Oh, 437 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: the great Caruso at West Timer near the Beltway was 438 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: great for dinner and a show. Singers would come out 439 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: to the tables and walk around and sing. I love 440 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: that place. I loved the duck with being cherry sauce. 441 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a memory. That dude's got a memory 442 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: right there. Bonanza peanut butter whiskey. Guy, let's see, Eric 443 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: says olive oil belly dancing. There's a great authentic Greek 444 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: restaurant in the Woodlands, just all Sawdust in forty five. 445 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: They do belly dancing every Friday night with the plate 446 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: breaking to really good food, and the dancers do not 447 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: look anything trans Eric from Spring no trans there. Steven said, 448 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: I had to thrill o my life listening to Don 449 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: Williams at the Old ten Hall, and it wasn't so 450 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: loud that you couldn't hear yourself think. Several people emailing 451 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: that the Dinner Bell Diner is still open, but the 452 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: MEM's brothers don't own it anymore, so the food's not 453 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: as good. Pacific Yardhouse in Conroe, Music and Dinner great 454 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: little place, lots of character. So there are still some 455 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: dinner in a lots of folks, say in the spaghetti warehouse, 456 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: which is different than spaghetti Western. I want to go 457 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: back to one of these women, are chief Michaelberry. I 458 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: think that there might be, because. 459 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 2: I got nothing going on down there. 460 00:24:47,400 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 4: Probably skip the light fad than go. 461 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 5: Churned corn wheels across the ball. 462 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: I was feeling kind of seasick. 463 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 4: The crowd called out the brow. The room was homing harder. 464 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 2: As a seiling. 465 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: Wait when we call it on that dream. 466 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 5: The wage bron trade has a mento his chair, not 467 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 5: a vicious mass. 468 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 4: Just go Steve. 469 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: It is believed that record company owner Shape Guy Stevens, 470 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: who was close friends with the band, came up with 471 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: the name pro call Harem, which he said was a 472 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: misspelling of the Latin phrase pro cool haroun or harun, 473 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: which roughly means far beyond these things. It was also 474 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: the pedigree name of his Siamese cat, who he actually 475 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: marked as pro call his which there's a whole history 476 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: behind why he named the cat there, but you get 477 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: the point. That is the most credible version of how 478 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: the uh how the name came about? Ramon hold on, 479 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: I want to read you some of these concepts, because 480 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: there were good ones. Just one second, can you play 481 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: something nice while I'm doing that? All right, here we 482 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: go the Boston Sea Party on West Timer. I think 483 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: that was owned by by Borcock. Next check and see, 484 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: but I believe he Uh, I think that was by Borcock. 485 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: I loved two roads in Rice Village on the second story. 486 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: I remember that. I just have an office right next 487 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: to that spaghetti warehouse. Uh Monell's in Nashville Southern. Oh, Man, 488 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: you know it's Confederate house. Man, don't get me talking 489 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: about the Confederate house. Bring it back. Grandi's Black Eyed 490 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: Pea and showbiz. I can't believe anybody would actually, with 491 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: a straight face say they wanted Grandy used to come back. 492 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: Farrell's ice cream parlor. Oh, they had one in North Mentiuval. 493 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: I always forget y'all had a Farrell's over here, because 494 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: we had a Farrel's at Parkdale Mall. It was a 495 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: big deal village in pizza at Westbury Square in West 496 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: Timriine or at Westbury Square wind swept In on airlines 497 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: south of West Road. Family Diner Triple A was the 498 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: south end of the Farmer's Market on Airline. Yeah, no, 499 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: I remember Dinner Bell Cafeteria, Dean Goss Theater, Dinner Bell 500 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: Belly Dancers. That again, is that place called olive Oil. 501 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: Joe said, bring back der Wiener Stinsel. I agree, Although 502 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: we had James Coney Island, which was our very own 503 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: der Winier Stinzel that was based here. You get people 504 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: talking about James Coney Island. There's a lot of memories 505 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 1: to James Coney Island. Funny thing, small world. We were 506 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: talking about benjie Leavitt earlier. Benji Levitt is the grandson 507 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: of mort Levitt. I believe it's Morton, Milton, Morton, and 508 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: I forget their first name. But the Levitt's and the 509 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: Levitts owned Grocer's Supply. You know the orange it looks 510 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: like a like a traffic sign. They owned grocery supply 511 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of things came out of But they 512 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: the grocery Supply family owned James Coney Island. I think 513 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: they're I think they're slowly but surely closing or selling 514 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: those locations, the ones that they owned. My friend Darren 515 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: used to be there, used to be their their CEO. 516 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: That's why they were always parked out at the RCC 517 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: went first open. We didn't have a kitchen yet, and 518 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: they were kind of enough to send the Coney Cruiser 519 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: out every night. Let's see, there's one in Ginado called 520 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: Rear Window, Rear window listening room. Mucky Duck. Yep, Munkey 521 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: Duck is nice and Munkey Duck is a listening room. 522 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: So if you're actually there to hear the music. Oh, 523 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: I got a I got Blancos. The owner of Blancos 524 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: used to come to the RCC and tell us that 525 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: we were better than Blancos, which I don't believe was true, 526 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: but that was like the ultimate compliment. Victoria Station. Let's 527 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: see restaurants we miss Old Santa Cino Inn near the 528 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: Battleship Texas. Corville's Restaurant. I got an email from Donnie Corville, 529 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: and I have never been there, but he said, come 530 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: be our guest at Hayes Carl's show in Beaumont at Corville's. 531 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: We've been doing this for over twenty years, dinner and 532 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: a show. You never hear anybody talk about the place, 533 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: but Tracy Bird told me it's one of his favorite 534 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: places to play because the folks are because there's dinner, 535 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: there's less drunkenness, and people really listen to the show. 536 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: Robert says, bring back Ponchos, the Loubies and Tomball is 537 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: still open, very crowded at three point thirty. Phil Subaru, 538 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: Phil the Oil Check, the gas, old San Francisco Steakhouse. 539 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what that one was. The Red Lion 540 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: on South Maine, old English home with the British taxi 541 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: out front, Trader Vicks. Right down the street at the 542 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: Shamrock Hilton, there's still a Red Lion and it's on Shepherd. 543 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: And this sounds crazy because the guy's an Englishman. But 544 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: the Red Lion on Shepherd in between Westheimer and say 545 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: West Gray, on the west side of the street. My 546 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: wife will tell you if it's not. It's some of 547 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: the best Indian food in all of Houston. And it's 548 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: a British pub, which is not really out of character 549 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: if you know anything about that. We need to bring 550 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: back Luby's and Wyatt's. Barber says dinner. Dean Goss. Stanless 551 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: says Windmill Dinner Theater. A bunch of people said Windmill 552 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: Dinner Theater. I guess that went away. But that one 553 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: came up a lot dinner and a show Today is 554 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: going to watch the uncut live drama unfold at waffles 555 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: at waffle house Chef's Kiss, that's actually true. Mighty BikeE 556 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: Burgers on South Shepherd and a Hogi Shop also on Shephard. 557 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: Dean Goss Dinner Theater, Dean Goss Dinner Theater, Windmill Dinner Theater. 558 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: That one came up a lot Modern Diner. There's a 559 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: Cafe Express on West Gray near Marshall's. I think that's 560 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: the last one left. We used to wear Cafe Express 561 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: out Magic Island. Magic Island came up a few times. 562 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: Wind Mill Dinner Theater, the Great Caruso. Did you ever 563 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: go to the Great Caruso O? Vermon? 564 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: Oh? 565 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: Apparently? I thought Ramon was joking earlier about scallops just 566 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: being shaved pieces of stingrays. I got an email from 567 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: a fellow says Ramone is partially correct. Reputable restaurants use 568 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: genuine scallops, which are mussels or bivalves similar to clams 569 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: and oysters. Some restaurants do use stingray or other skate 570 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: wings cut in circles to replicate scallops at a much 571 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: lower cost. My grandparents were in the seafood whole cell 572 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: industry for many years, and my grandma taught me this 573 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: when I was young. You know what else people do 574 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: they use instead of crab meat? They use uh, well, 575 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: what is that? Filler? Fish? Ramon? The Chinese do it 576 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: and they raise it in farms you're talking about. It 577 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: starts with a C. 578 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 5: God. 579 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: I can't remember it, but they're apparently a lot of 580 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: times when you think you're eating crab, you're not eating crab. 581 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: I guess if you don't know any better, it doesn't 582 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: really matter. Christopher says, bring back pof folks. Did y'all 583 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: have po folks over here? We had a po folks 584 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: in Beaumont, and I loved PO folks. I thought that 585 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: was the coolest thing ever. My parents and I would 586 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: go over to Po folks. That's good eating right there. 587 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: You can keep sending your emails. By the way, if 588 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: you have not heard back from us on Palm Beach three, 589 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: you can send another request. I think we've sent all 590 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: our responses now.