1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: We're thinking about jetting of Begel A great choice, ah 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Bejels America's dodge. They're always on the joe, ready to 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: challenge you to a jam of touch of war. They 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: may be known for their happy joe lucky demeanor, but 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: these little joys have a. 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: Jiff for mischieff. 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: Did Jane jump the icebergs? 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: Let us in your jarden? Bejels? 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Does jet one already? 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: Good morning, swivel and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: on the Athletic Networks, Wednesday, January fourth, twenty twenty three. 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: I'm j Skis here in the Classic Factory, and alongside 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: me as always, that's Tessmellos. 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: Would you like to see my passwords? I feel like 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 3: everyone's always looking at my passwords. You just never know, 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: You just never know. My passwords are always everybody can 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: see passwords to test worried. I'm just worried. Everybody should 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: be worried. 19 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: Immediate left, it's the Bearded One, Matasha ho Boy, Trey. 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: Kirby, Hey, hey, hey, the Beagles got. 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: Me weird and last but not least, making the magic happen. 22 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: Super producer jd. Hello, there he is here, we are 23 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: I thought you were accusing us of like spying or 24 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 2: leaning over and looking at your laptop. 25 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: Well, no, I wouldn't care. You just mean I'll show you. Yeah, 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: we're always sharing our screens, presenting our screens. 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: Shout out to the stream team joining us live right 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: now on YouTube. Get those likes up, comment away and 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: subscribe if you haven't already, and sending your questions and 30 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: comments to no dunks at the Athletic dot com best 31 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 2: way to email them in or tweet ement at No 32 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: dunkzinc I n C. On the end, we're gonna hit 33 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: the beach today. Some great tweets sent in yesterday, so 34 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 2: we got four or five fun questions to tackle before 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: we get into last night's games. Could I do a 36 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: little errors and omissions from yesterday's podcast, let's go. I 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: know we were fact checking our ass off at the 38 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: end of yesterday. 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: More. 40 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's more. I got shooed hard, I said when 41 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: we were talking about Donovan Mitchell scoring seventy one yeah, 42 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: I said, wow. Actually, that Calves comeback was a twenty 43 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: one point comeback that was the largest of the NBA season. 44 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: I threw that out there. I had read that on 45 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: NBC Sports Chicago and so I thought it was true, 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: and I didn't fact check it myself. You know, Shoe 47 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: said hashtag. Well, actually, my man, no it's not. It's 48 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: not even the second or third biggest comeback in the 49 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: NBA this season. Shoe tweeted it all the Suns won 50 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: a game in which they trailed by twenty four this season. 51 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 2: It was in a game where Booker went off. 52 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: Opening Night, I think Phoenix versus Dallas else got up 53 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: huge and everybody's like, oh, Phoenix, you jokers, your season 54 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 4: is over already. Game one. They came back and won. 55 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: So do you remember that? So the Calves twenty one 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: point comeback thanks to Mitchell. There fourth biggest comeback. Okay, 57 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: this season, there's that, So thank you, Shoe. And the 58 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: other one, well yeah, people in the YouTube comments corrected 59 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: me on this one. I was saying Mitchell became the 60 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: sixth player in NBA history to score seventy plus points 61 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: in a game. I listed Wilt Kobe, David Thompson, Elgin Baylor, 62 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: and Devin Booker as the other seventy point club members. 63 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: I missed David Robinson, and I saw that in multiple 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: spots actually where people forgot David Robinson on this seventy 65 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: point club list. So yeah, he went for seventy one 66 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: in the final game of the ninety four regular season 67 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: in the sport style. Yes, yes, there you go. So 68 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: David Robinson and David. 69 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: Thompson, Okay, you want you want to keep fact checking it. 70 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: I said Luk at Doncips had two hundred and fifty 71 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: fifty and fifty. People came at me and said, no, 72 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: it's two twenty eight. It was just the wrong games. 73 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: He did have a two fifty to fifty to fifty, 74 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: but it was the five previous games minus that one game, 75 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 4: so it's still there. 76 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: Also, you're fact checking the fact checkers. 77 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm fact checking the fact checkers who fact checked me. 78 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: Also check the facts. The last two minute report came 79 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: out for Bulls versus CA, and you guessed that it's 80 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: a lane violation. H obvious lane violation. Donovan Mitchell scored 81 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: fifty six points. 82 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: So I'm glad though, I'm glad there was a lane 83 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: violation because if the refs called that, that would be 84 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: a violation on the refs they called. So you called 85 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: that at the last. 86 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 4: Woo on Alex's game. It did too miss the biggest 87 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: one of the game, though Tony Brothers too exciting. 88 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: I liked it. 89 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: He would have been close game if you want a 90 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 4: close game. 91 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: Something else we said on yesterday's podcast came true last night. 92 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: I said, somebody's going for fifty again. Just look at 93 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: last night's schedule. Picked somebody in one of those games, 94 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: Pick a superstar and they're going for fifty. And that's 95 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: exactly what happened. Yeses Keiths A Dominis, Uh, you're honest, 96 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: dropped a career high, career high fifty five points as 97 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: the Bucks led by honest there stop the surging Wizards 98 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: snapped their five game win streak. We had a blast 99 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 2: watching this one on playback last night, thanks to everybody 100 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: that joined us. But wow, what a performance from this guy. 101 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: We watched you on score fifty five. Kind of surprising 102 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: that his career high was only fifty two. Maybe it's 103 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 3: because everybody dropped fifty these days. Maybe because he dropped 104 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: fifty to punctuate an NBA Finals championship in Game six, 105 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: So he think that in a regular season he dropped 106 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 3: more than fifty two is what he had prior to 107 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: this game. But it felt clear to me all this 108 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: love going around for Donovan, Mitchell and Luca and even 109 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: Jokic and n just wanted to say hello. He was 110 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 3: pretty demonstrative. He was in the end of the fourth 111 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: quarter there to get to fifty, to get to fifty five, 112 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 3: a lot of I think it was aware on my 113 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 3: flower situation. 114 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: Don't forget about me. 115 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, a bit point in Greek, n um, Jdy you 116 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: good with that. JD knows Greek. He knew exactly what 117 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 3: I was like, what I had to think about it 118 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: for a second, what luludia? I mean, what what flowers 119 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 3: are my flowers? Yeah? Bang in Greek? 120 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 5: Yes, got me anyway, So there are so many damn 121 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 5: people at the MVP table, and I think Yannis could 122 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 5: be a default pick for people because he's sort of 123 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 5: a default type of guy with. 124 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: Basically because if you got to split hairs, there's there's 125 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: so many guys who are just off the charts right now. 126 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: I think he could be a default pick when it 127 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: comes to the end of the season for voters because there's 128 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: just flaws in some other guy's cases, and there's guys 129 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: who are there for the first time, like Luca and Tatum, 130 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: and I think I think Yani's just could be a default. 131 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 3: But I think there's two defaults when it comes to 132 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: MVP picking. It's probably gonna be a one seed. I think. 133 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be somebody up high in 134 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 3: the standings after what Jokic did last year, and I 135 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: think you might just go, all right, there's so many 136 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: guys here, I'm gonna go with somebody who's won it before. 137 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: And you could say that Jokic is the default guy. 138 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, but that's way back then, and it's a 139 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: little okay, Durant's fine, but but yeah, no, but Yannis, 140 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 3: I think it's I think there's a difference. I think 141 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: there's difference between Jokic because he just won it. So 142 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: that's a listen, we're splitting gears. Yeah, so I think 143 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 3: that's a tiny little, you know, a notch against him 144 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: and Durant way back then. And yeah, it's just could 145 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: be this. It just could be the default pick for voters. 146 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: I'm saying he's tied with Luca in terms of forty 147 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: point games this season, which doesn't seem right. They both 148 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: have eight forty point games this season, just doesn't it 149 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: seems with all the hype, Yeah, it goes to Lucas. 150 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: So I'm just saying, there's the hype train is with 151 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: everybody up top, and I think when we're talking about MVPs, 152 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: I think Yannis could get it because he's just he's 153 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: just he's the horse that keeps coming. I know Jokic 154 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: loves horses, but Yannis is the horse that is there 155 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: every single night, and he's overlooked. So they might just 156 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: say any meaning mighty mo, that's the guy. But they 157 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: have to finish high in the standings and that ain't 158 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: happening right now. Maybe he's having to do a little 159 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: too much and we can get to that. 160 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty five points, twenty thirty three, shooting fifteen to 161 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: sixteen at the LIE ten boards, seven assists. It was 162 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: sort of laughable watching this one back. You know, we're 163 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: watching on playback, but there's a lot going on. We're 164 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: bringing people in talking to them. But man, like just 165 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: the pairing of athleticism with the physicality of this guy, 166 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 2: like just going sort of did he takes one step 167 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: around the guy and then just throws his body Kuzma Gafford, Porzingis. 168 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. I mean, really, anybody in the league 169 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: just goes bouncing back and you're forced to either foul 170 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: them or he's then doing like just a little finger 171 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: roll over the front of the rim, like time and 172 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: time again, eighteen to twenty four in the restricted area. 173 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: In this game, the Wizards are. 174 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: Just too skinny, That's what it is. 175 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: Like. 176 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: They didn't have anybody with enough bulk to handle Yannis 177 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 4: with the full head of steam, and that's kind of 178 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: what happened in the fourth quarter. It's like Janis was 179 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: doing the math of what I need to do to 180 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 4: get to fifty points here, So I'm just gonna grab 181 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 4: every rebound and bring the ball up the court every 182 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 4: single time. Maybe there will be somebody back there to 183 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 4: sort of challenge at the rim, try and slide under 184 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: for a charge. But it didn't matter because Gafford he's 185 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 4: like about as like half as wide as Giannis is, 186 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 4: Kristaps porzingis half as wide as Yanis is. It didn't matter. 187 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: Brook Lopez had a huge game one twelve, Bobby Portis 188 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 4: seventeen and thirteen. The Wizards are pretty softy inside, and 189 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 4: that's not good if you're playing against the Bucks, especially 190 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 4: when they're missing Chris Middleton and Drew Holliday. They're gonna 191 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: try and score inside primarily to begin with, But on 192 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: a night like last night, when they didn't have their 193 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: perimeter stars out there, it was on Giannis to keep 194 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 4: scoring and scoring and scoring in the lane. He went 195 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 4: oh for three from three point line. He did bank 196 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 4: in one. He had forty seven points, took a three 197 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: because he wanted the fifty, banked it in, but a 198 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 4: timeout had been called so it did not count. So 199 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 4: the jumper wasn't there, the free throws were, and obviously 200 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 4: nobody on the Wizards could handle that guy. 201 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: So the taunt of this season has been too small, right, 202 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: tell everybody they're just too small, even if they're bigger 203 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: than you, because you took them into the block and 204 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: you scored over them. Do you think, Trey, we could 205 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: start seeing guys maybe, like the Bucks, start going too thin. 206 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: You're too skinny, you're not fat enough. You ain't got 207 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: the weight. 208 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 4: We at the very least, I think weight room should 209 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: come back. Yeah, for for the Bucks specifically, like in 210 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: the muscles. Yeah, be honest, that guy's jacked more than any. 211 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. Gianness is averaging forty seven point 212 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: seven points per game. Seventeen point three rebounds per game 213 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: and six point three assists per game over his last three. Now, 214 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: he didn't miss that one game, the last one against 215 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: the Wizards, sat that one out. But yeah, he's putting up. 216 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: He had like forty five and twenties going, and then 217 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: last night he thought he'd switch it up a bit 218 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: and make it a fifty five to ten, and like, 219 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: the numbers are just unreal, Like it's they're starting to 220 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: wash over me, it'll admit, Like with these sixty point 221 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: triple doubles and guys scoring seventy one and stuff like 222 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: this from him. 223 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why it was surprising to me that 224 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: he's got as many forty point games as Lucas, because 225 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: every single number that he throws out there is does 226 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: wash over you. He's got the size. You can't complain 227 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 3: if you're if you're an old the NBA player and say, oh, 228 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: there's no physicality in the game anymore. This guy just throws, 229 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: like you said, his shoulder into guys. There was even 230 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: a play where he spinned around dennyev Dia and Avidia 231 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: was lost. He was like two steps behind, not because 232 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: of his size but because of his speed. So the 233 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 3: combination is ridiculous. I did bring up whether or not 234 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: Yannis is doing a little too much, and I know 235 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: you've talked about whether they could just use a guy 236 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: to create a little bit more help. I think, yeah, 237 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: just to score more. Obviously Middleton hasn't been around eight 238 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: straight games he's out. Is that worrisome for the Bucks? 239 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: Where because he didn't start the season. Obviously he was 240 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: out for the playoffs, he came back, he's out. I 241 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 3: guess if you're looking rose colored glasses, the same similar thing, 242 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: I should say happened to Brook Lopez last year, where 243 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: he missed almost seventy games to start the season and 244 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: then came back in the playoffs and was fine. So 245 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: hopefully Middleton can come back and then they are totally fine. 246 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 3: But Drew Holiday coming off the bench and this one 247 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: wasn't awesome, So it just feels like he's doing a 248 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: little too much. It does feel like it's sustainable because 249 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: it's Sianstetkompo and he fought through an injury to win 250 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: a title. But at the same time, he could use 251 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: some help, and the guys around him are older, and 252 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: that's that's the worry. Someome part to some degree. I'm 253 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: banking on Joe Ingles being good. He's thirty five, so 254 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: Middleton is is huge, huge for them. 255 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: Bradley Bial he did return to this game last night 256 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: from the Wizard side of the things. He had missed 257 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 2: the three games prior with the hamstring and then he 258 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: left because of the hamstring issue. And this one had 259 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 2: eight points before. He didn't play in the rest of 260 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: the second half, and so that's a lingering thing here, 261 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: and he sounded frustrated. He even dropped the usually, one 262 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: of my best abilities is availability. 263 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 3: And he said that. 264 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: He said that, and you know he's he's struggling with 265 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: that because he's he's trying to play through this injury 266 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: and then it flares up and you know, we'll get 267 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: to Zion a little bit later in this show with 268 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: his hamstring. 269 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: I did, I did a control left. I see it 270 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: on the athletic It's frustrating. I always preach your best 271 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: ability is availability. Your best ability is your availability. Bradley 272 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: Bial misses his games at lot. 273 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, but no answer for the Greek freak. 274 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: No did what about the dunk? 275 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: What about the the mist dunk? 276 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: The mist dunk was phenomenal. 277 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, who's on Gafford right? It was he was about 278 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: to uh put him in the coffin here. I think 279 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: Yannis said that he and I agree with him that 280 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 2: he jumped almost too high because he just joinks it 281 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: off the back of the rim. He's look off where 282 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: he takes off for stuff. 283 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, and it went in and out. Yeah, yeah, 284 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: he took off from the Oh. 285 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: He was like, I would have been a good one. 286 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: I would have been on House of Highlights. You talked 287 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: about that too, he said his wife. His wife told him, 288 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: you're never on House of Highlights anymore. You don't have 289 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: any cool dunks. 290 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 4: That was on House of Highlights. I literally was. 291 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: And he had a sick windmill too. He threw that 292 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: one down, hot take. 293 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 4: I prefer a maid dunks. I think I think the 294 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 4: window was better than the mist dunk. 295 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: Mmm. He made anythink Yeah, I agree, I agree. 296 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: But he was he was like a he's not usually 297 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: a showboater, that type of guy to play up to 298 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: the crowd a lot. And there was more of that 299 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: last night. 300 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, I agree one hundred percent with you. 301 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: He wanted to let the league remind remind the league 302 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 2: that I can go for fifty two. Yeah, I can 303 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 2: do fifty. He was doing like he was doing a 304 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 2: lot of this. 305 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: We're prancing. 306 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: He was prancing like a deer move or something. The 307 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: buck Yeah, he was a point in at Milwaukee and 308 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: all that on the chest. Yeah he was. He was 309 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: fired up last night. He had a night off the 310 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: game before. 311 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: I guess Mariah's his wife's words got to him. Yeah, 312 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: he wanted it. He wanted it bad. That was that 313 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: was fun to watch. 314 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: Let's move to the other game last night, Deer and 315 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: Fox scored thirty seven points huge in the fourth bucket 316 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: after Bucket lifted the Kings past the Jazz one seventeen 317 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: one fifteen uh Lowry Markinen hit a long jumper. You 318 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: know it wasn't a two? Was it a three? 319 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: Or where the home cooking? Where's the home cooking? Start 320 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: the clock late? 321 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: They started it on time, They counted it. Then they 322 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: looked at it and it was reversed upon replay that 323 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: it was still on the finger to an incredible shot. 324 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: But you know, with the circumstances there and how much 325 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: time was left. But the Jazz dropped their fifth straight game, 326 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: with the five losses by a combined fifteen points. It's tough. Well, 327 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: it's tough. Tough. That is tough. They've lost by one point, 328 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: two points, three points, four points, and five points. Not 329 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: in chronological order like that, but nice. Ooh, but yeah, 330 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to start with Fox 331 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: and the Kings win lighting the beam and them continuing to, 332 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: you know, pull some of these out. He was awesome 333 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: twenty two of his thirty seven in the fourth quarter. 334 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was helped out I think by being 335 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: guarded by Jordan Clarkson might have been. 336 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: He just left him a couple of times. 337 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 4: The dunk was crazy. 338 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: That was. 339 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: Maybe the worst gamble you'll see on the perimeter in 340 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 4: the NBA this season, just going for a steal, not 341 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 4: even close cleared the lane for Fox to go up 342 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: for a dunk. But then it was like the same 343 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 4: thing kept happening. Next time it was he blew Clarkson again, 344 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 4: finished at the hoop. Then he blew by marking and 345 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 4: hit the jumper to win it there. So Fox was 346 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 4: just they didn't have anybody to stay in front of them. 347 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: The Jazz really don't play defense. They were pretty good 348 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 4: with regards to attention to detail early in the season. 349 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 4: They're just losing it a little bit here. I think 350 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 4: Will Hardy said that there's one possession in each of 351 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: these last five games that if it flips the other way, 352 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: they're on a five game winning streak. That's how close 353 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 4: these games are for the Jazz right now. But great 354 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 4: performance for Fox and then another great performance for Demanta 355 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: sabonas as well. This guy's unstoppable right now. Walker Kessler, 356 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: great shot blocker, and he just ate him up. He 357 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 4: was inside his body the entire time, looking like a 358 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 4: man versus a boy out there. He's also playing through 359 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 4: a broken thumb, right, Yes, yes, pretty impressive. At one 360 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 4: point he made seventeen straight shots. 361 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, the broken thumb, Yeah, pretty good. 362 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he dominated inside. The Jazz couldn't deal with him 363 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: that That was probably the biggest factor. They just have 364 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: such a slim margin of era. Like you said, one 365 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: play goes the other way. They get one rebound on 366 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: Friday night where they gave three chances to the opposing 367 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: team to hit a shot Kings. The same thing happened 368 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 3: to them here last night, and they had the hero 369 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: game winner. So on the weekend, and it was wild. 370 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: Those three percent in the last minute the Aaron Fox 371 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: just went off the dunk, the mid ranger and then 372 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: the layup when he went right past market and Marketing 373 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: did everything he could. Who was I a seven footer 374 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: isoed on one, one of the fastest guys. Yeah, market 375 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 3: In was there at the rim. He tracked him from 376 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 3: the three point line to the rim. This was four 377 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: seconds left for the game winner. He was there. I 378 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 3: was surprised Kelly Olinick didn't come over to help, but 379 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 3: I guess he wanted to stick with Demanta Sabonis. That's 380 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: the plan. But you just can't. You just can't do that. 381 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 3: Although this is interesting between these two teams, it may 382 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: come down to one of these two guys not getting 383 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 3: to the All Star Game, whether it's Fox, whoever they 384 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 3: came representative. 385 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 2: Is yeah, one is going to be there. But it 386 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: is a tough question. Is it Sabonis or Fox or 387 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: or maybe both of them? 388 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? Or or Marketing it like it was some Marketing 389 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: could lose out because because I came goes there. Marketing 390 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: through this five game win streak thirty points per game. 391 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 3: He has not stopped this season. He ain't. Andrea Barniani 392 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: Andrea Barniani's All Star case stopped. I believe at like. 393 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: Twenty we started talking about it. I remember, so. 394 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 3: It's still going. It's still going. It would be it 395 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: would suck if he doesn't make it. And this five 396 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 3: game losing streak, even though it's this slim could play 397 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: a part because it's tough. It's tough in the West, 398 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 3: and the King's guys are are very deserving. 399 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, this is the Kings here too. This is 400 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: their twentieth win of the season. What game do you 401 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: think it took last season for them to get to 402 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: their twentieth victory? 403 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 4: Sixty nine? 404 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 2: Nice? Fifty five? Yeah, so not too bad, I guess 405 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: when you put it in that perspective. But yeah, so 406 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: they're already twenty and sixteen here and pulling some of 407 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: these out. And this was on a night where like 408 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: their bench did nothing, Like Malik Monk had a rough, 409 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: rough night. Shawn Holmes gave them a couple turnovers and 410 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: a couple of fowls in very limited minutes, but it 411 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: didn't matter when when Fox took over and so Bonis. 412 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it feels like both of those guys are deserving, 413 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: but you got to go start going through and you're like, 414 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, does somebody get squeezed and do they 415 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: cannibalize each other? Votes a little bit from some of 416 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: the coaches. I mean, they're not starting either of them, 417 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: it'd be a selection, but yeah, they're they're both playing 418 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: it obviously at all star level, and it helps that 419 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 2: they're at least one of the you know, they're a 420 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: top what sixteen in the Western Conference right now? For sure, 421 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: it's amazing anything else on that one. They've played some 422 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: entertaining games the Kings and Jazz. This is the second 423 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: one in a row that was like basically down to 424 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: the wire, fun fun matchup. Next game, This one won't 425 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 2: take long. The Thunder blew out the Celtics one fifty 426 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: to one seventeen with no SGA. Everybody scored for the Thunder. 427 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 2: I mean everybody was scoring over twenty points and shooting 428 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: over fifty percent from the floor, and it was and 429 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: you know, Marcus Smart eventually gets tossed. He's tired of 430 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: getting his ass handed to him by this. You know, 431 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 2: this is a scrappy little Thunder team here. Just couldn't 432 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: miss last night. What what'd you see from this one? Well, 433 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 2: and maybe rewatching it this morning or the game whatever. 434 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, before I watched it, I wanted to harp on 435 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: the Celtics for sure. I wanted to say, what is 436 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: going on after that performance on New Year's Day against 437 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: the Denver Nuggets where they didn't hit the Nuggets, they 438 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: didn't come out physically, and Jalen Brown said, maybe it 439 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: was the New Year's celebrations. We didn't We just weren't 440 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 3: physical on the perimeter and they got to the rim Championship. 441 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: Teams just don't lose two games in a row like that. 442 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 3: Like that. But even though I started with the Celtics, 443 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 3: I want to start with a thunder. I thought maybe 444 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: maybe the Celtics thought, looking on the other side, that 445 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: team is tiny. They started basically six five guys across 446 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 3: the front line. See yeah, other than Jalen Williams Jay 447 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: Dubb's hair as they call him, which you know makes 448 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 3: him six nine six ten, I mean they're they're really 449 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 3: The front line was like six five six six. The 450 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 3: biggest players point guard and Josh Giddy. So maybe they thought, 451 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: we don't have to be physical, we don't have to 452 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: protect the rim. But that's exactly what happened. Okaysee was 453 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 3: so athletic at getting to the rim. Over and over 454 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 3: and over again. Boston just didn't help. They just did 455 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 3: not help whatsoever, And there just wasn't anything at the rim. 456 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 3: That second quarter was where it got blown open. It 457 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 3: was a forty point okay See second quarter and then 458 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 3: forty eight in the third quarter. As they continued on, 459 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 3: I mentioned j Dubb. So fun to watch this guy, 460 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: great personality. Yeah, so much bounce. Trey Mann's got the 461 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 3: wiggle to get to the rim as their six man. 462 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: Last night, Isaia, Joe can't miss a three right now. Yes, 463 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: he's on fire. He's fifty of his sixty eight field 464 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: goals this year a three pointer. 465 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 4: Sixers just let him go. 466 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 2: What where did you come from? Where did you go? 467 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 3: That's a good call. Yeah, the Sixers did let him go. 468 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: Let him go, and he. 469 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 4: Needed shooters for like six seasons straight. 470 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: Just let him go. Yeah. 471 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And we know going into okay See, is not 472 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: an easy win. We as basketball sickos. We know that 473 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 3: they're sixteen to twenty one. They got a record at home, 474 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 3: they're really really solid at home. I probably shouldn't said 475 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: yesterday on playback, I said, we were talking about relegation 476 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 3: and teams like, Okay, see, who are are solid? And 477 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: you know, I said, they're, you know, one of the 478 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: the worst teams in the NBA, and they're just they're 479 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: really good in a way. You know, they can't win games, 480 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: but they have so much talent across the board. They 481 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 3: are so fun to watch. And the Celtics, I'm just 482 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 3: I'm surprised they took them lightly. I know Shaye wasn't 483 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: in the lineup, but I'm surprised two games in a 484 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: row that would happen. Yeah. 485 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: I saw Adam Taylor NBA tweeting that the Celtics have 486 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: played eight road games against Western Conference teams this year 487 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: and they're they're five hundred, so not too bad, right, 488 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 2: four and four on the road against the West, which 489 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: is pretty loaded. They started with two wins in November 490 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 2: against Memphis and New Orleans, great wins. Then they won 491 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: in Phoenix. But then they lost their next two of 492 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 2: three in California. But it was a tough part of 493 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: their schedule. It was one of those three games in 494 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: four nights. They lost to the Warriors, they lost to 495 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: the Clippers. They did beat the Lakers. But now you said, 496 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: here in twenty three tests where They've lost to the 497 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets and then this like spank job here from 498 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: ok See, which is the surprising one, giving up one 499 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty points. So again four and four in 500 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: those eight road games against the West. But they're in 501 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 2: a little strange, little funk. Part of that happens to 502 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: all the good teams, and I don't think anyone's gonna overreact. 503 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: I'm not going to overreact. But this is more than 504 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: just two straight losses. This is three losing streaks in 505 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: the last month, a two game losing streak, then a 506 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 3: three game losing streaking out another two game losing streak. 507 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 2: Oh, that's a losing streak, losing to it, Yeah. 508 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: Tough, Yeah, I think it is. I think it's just 509 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 3: they've never been the favorite in a regular season and 510 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 3: maybe that's affecting them to some degree, like they've never 511 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: been a number one seed this way, I think it 512 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 3: is something to worry about to some degree. I don't 513 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 3: think Champs don't do this this often. 514 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 2: Any other thoughts on this game or the Celtics or 515 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: the thunder. 516 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 4: What have I got thoughts? 517 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: Wise? 518 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: I'm personally not worried at all for the Celtics. I 519 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 4: think they're just totally board right now. They blew the 520 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 4: doors off the league for the first month and a 521 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 4: half of the season started. What twenty two to five 522 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 4: could not miss a three. Now they're struggling to miss threes. 523 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: I think it was Malcolm Brogden said, we saw that 524 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 4: Shaye wasn't gonna play and took a big, deep breath 525 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 4: and relaxed, and we shouldn't have done that. It looked 526 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 4: like the Celtics to at the start of last season 527 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 4: where they thought they could just get by on talent, 528 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 4: and obviously you can't just get by on talent. You 529 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 4: got to play out there, and the thunder came out 530 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 4: and took it to them. The losses against like the 531 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: Clippers and the Warriors, the close game against the Lakers 532 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 4: that was without all of their starting front court right 533 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 4: like Horford was missing, Robert Williams hadn't come back yet. 534 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 4: There were reasons for that, like they went as far 535 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 4: as they could go with h Grant Williams and Blake 536 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: Griffin playing huge minutes. So I don't know. To me, 537 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 4: it's just this is kind of one of the down 538 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 4: times of the season. December into January, things start getting 539 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 4: really weird. You see a lot of weird blowouts when 540 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 4: we're trying when it still seems like it's early in 541 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 4: the season. But some teams have actually gotten bad. So 542 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 4: some teams are slacking. I think that's what is up 543 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 4: to the Celtics right now. They think we are a 544 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 4: team that went to the finals last year. We've proven 545 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 4: ourselves as one of the best teams in the league, 546 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 4: so we should be able to come in and just 547 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: push over a team like the Thunder. You still got 548 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 4: to play. Every team is good now. 549 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, okay, see it is now sixteen and 550 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: twenty one, which is the exact same record as our 551 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: Bulls and our Raptors, same as the Lakers, probably one 552 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: game behind the Wolves. I mean, they have sort of 553 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: proven at least this season. Okay, se has that they're 554 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: not one of the worst teams. You know, they're not 555 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: those teams with ten or eleven wins. They're a tiny 556 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 2: step up and you know, are knocking on a play 557 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 2: in trying to chase Utah for a potential ten seeds. 558 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 2: So yeah, they've been really fun watch too, and a 559 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: tough team to play. Like you said in the old 560 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: what is it pe Com Center is that what it is? 561 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: A big ass logo on the floor. 562 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 3: I think it's pey comya the chesapeak to. 563 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: Me, it's pay com. It's huge. Those the biggest logos 564 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 2: on the floor. I'm telling you, I'm massive. 565 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 4: U saw guy made a half court shot though, Yeah, 566 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: twenty k you got he knew he was gonna make it. 567 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 4: Look it was like looking dead in the eyes of it, 568 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: like let's go, let's give me the shot already. 569 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 2: And that was smooth man. Respect to that guy. Teaches 570 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: your ways. Man, he's wearing a hat too, was wearing 571 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 2: a hat. 572 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 4: Pretty impresivet didn't even go backwards. 573 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: That's awesome. Twenty k. Well, the pig com living up 574 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: to its name. 575 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: Was there a five k in Utah last night? Or 576 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 3: am I just imagining this? 577 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 4: They said something about it on the broadcast, That's what 578 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 4: I heard. 579 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, oh, if. 580 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 4: You're wondering why the fans are celebrating somebody just won 581 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 4: five thousand dollars. 582 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: It must have been not a half court then maybe 583 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: it was one of those Yeah, maybe I don't know. 584 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: Somebody tell us in the stream team I got some 585 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: injury news talk about test you're not gonna like this. 586 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: No Pelican stars. Zion Williamson. He's gonna miss at least 587 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: at least three weeks with a right hamstring strain sustained 588 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: in Monday's loss to the seventy six ers. That's the 589 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: one where he like you know, no contact, pulls up, 590 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: starts limping off, didn't return to that game. We thought, Oh, 591 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 2: hopefully nothing serious. This is serious enough, especially with a 592 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: guy like Zion on. Yeah, what do you think here? 593 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 3: Oh, I think that my NBA watching is it's it's 594 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: hurt right now because I think he was my favorite 595 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 3: player to watch over the first couple of months, because 596 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: I just since we started this show a very long 597 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: time ago. Anniversary coming up though for for the. 598 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: Seventeenth anniversary Corner Boys get the cakes in the sham. 599 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: I don't think and this isn't just hyperble. I've never 600 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 3: seen his ion since we started the show or even before. 601 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: I know, we've we've had a Shacker, we've had barkleyar, 602 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 3: but we haven't had we haven't had a Zion is different. 603 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: This dude in the last month twenty nine and a 604 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 3: half seven boards, five assists. That's Barkley assisted. But this 605 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: this guy's five assists. He's a point guard out there. 606 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: He's been my favorite player to watch, So it sucks, 607 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: uh and you can't rush him back. We just saw 608 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: what happened with Bradley Beal, and what's gonna happen if 609 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 3: during this rehab, I mean, he's it's going to take 610 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 3: a while. He's can't I suppose on hamstring. So I 611 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: think this just hurts their postseason chances as well. They 612 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: haven't played a lot together with their starting lineups at all, 613 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 3: and so I've thought of them as a potential bubble 614 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 3: team to be able to get to the finals. Maybe 615 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 3: he can sneak in if things really fall right for them, 616 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 3: But if you have another month here in January leading 617 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 3: up to the trade deadline, which is another thing we 618 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: can talk about, I think it hurts their playoff chances. 619 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 3: I think that's where they just won't have any chemistry, 620 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: really any chemistry. They've only played ten games. 621 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: Together they're projected starting line up. Yeah, McCollum, Herb, Jones, Ingram, 622 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: Zion and JV only ten games together. No good news 623 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: is there's six and two without Zion this year. This 624 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: is like now his fourth different injury this season. Now, 625 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: he played a lot. He's played twenty nine to thirty 626 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: seven games, but he missed a couple with that lower 627 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: back like hip contusion after that hard fall against the 628 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: Jazz I think it was. And then he missed three 629 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: games with a right foot contusion. Then he got sick. 630 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: I mean health and safety protocol, so not really an injury. 631 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: And then now this one here with the hamstring TK. 632 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: Can the Pelicans, hopefully getting Ingram back somewhat soon, Can 633 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: they stay around the top of the Western Conference sands 634 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: or we're going to see them have a bad week 635 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: two or three here and start to slide down. 636 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 4: Doesn't take much, Yeah, it doesn't take much, and the 637 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 4: standings are super tight, but I think they can at 638 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 4: the very least stay in like the seven to eight 639 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 4: range at the absolute worst, especially if Brandon Ingram comes back. 640 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: There were reports over. 641 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 4: The weekend that he could be coming back tonight. I 642 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 4: guess we'll figure that out as the day goes on. 643 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 4: But the Pelicans are a really, really deep team. Yeah, 644 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 4: so you know, as long as they're able to get 645 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 4: one of one of these two back in Zion and Ingram, 646 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 4: I think they can. 647 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: Probably tread water play at about. 648 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 4: Five hundred, maybe win some cool clutch games or something 649 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 4: like that as the season goes on and stay in 650 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 4: the mix. But the problem is they're not going to 651 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: be the team we want to see in the playoffs 652 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 4: because I agree with tasks like you need to have 653 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 4: Ingram and Zion on the court together to figure out 654 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 4: who's handling the ball, especially when you consider CJ. McCollum 655 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 4: a high usage guy as well. They you just need 656 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 4: to figure out how the three of them are gonna 657 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: fit together and make each other better rather than it 658 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 4: being your turn, my turn, your turn, my turn, which 659 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 4: is probably what it's gonna have to end up being 660 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 4: for this season because they just won't have a chance 661 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 4: really to build the chemistry. Not to mention it's three 662 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 4: weeks then reevaluate like this could get pushed longer and longer, 663 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 4: and they're gonna be obviously very careful with Zion because 664 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 4: you don't want them to come back and then have 665 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 4: to leave, come back, then have to leave. So, yeah, 666 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 4: it takes a little wind out of the sales for 667 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 4: the Pelicans, no doubt. 668 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, how many games have Zion Williamson and Brandon Ingram 669 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: even played together and they're not a career. It's not 670 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: a ton obviously with Zion missing all of last season, 671 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: and I'm sure there was some the year before that, 672 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: but not a ton this year. Yeah, I'm with you, guys. 673 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: That's a concern when you get to the playoffs, those 674 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: reps like those regular season reps with your sort of squad. 675 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: But they are a deep team. There's sort of if 676 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: any team can sort of handle these unfortunate injuries, it's them, 677 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: just because they have a lot of good guys on 678 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: that bench. 679 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 3: They're more opportunity four and one without Zion and yeah, yeah, 680 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 3: which is surprising, but they are really deep and maybe 681 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: they can still achieve just having some playoff experience. Trade 682 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 3: doesn't really think that they can go deep into the 683 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: postseason because they'd never been there before. So at least 684 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 3: if they, you know, take their time with Zion, they 685 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 3: can at least do that. You know, they can at 686 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: least go get reps with the healthy Zion. I Zion's 687 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: really angry. Will Gillory of the Athletic as their beat writer, 688 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: continuously says Zion just wants to be on the floor. 689 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: He said, I miss so much time last year. I 690 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 3: want to go out there. I want to go out there, 691 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: but I think they're gonna have to hold him back, 692 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: and I think they're gonna have to hold President Basketball 693 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: Operations David Griffin back from making a trade because David 694 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: Griffin and he likes to wheel a deal, and I 695 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: think I don't think really anything would stop him from 696 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: trading anybody. But I think with the trade deadline five 697 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: weeks away, even with a hurt Zion, I still think 698 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 3: he wants to make a deal, still still go for it, 699 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: and they have so many parts. Maybe you don't have 700 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: to hold him back. Maybe you can trade everything. He's 701 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: gonna trade whatever he wants. But I don't nothing is 702 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: held down with the Pelicans. I think you can. They 703 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 3: He could deal so many players from that roster, and 704 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 3: I think he might. I think he might still see 705 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 3: an opportunity to go for it. Here five weeks five weeks? 706 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: Boys, what does this mean for Zion Wimson in the 707 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: All Star Game? Going to hold him out of that 708 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: if he is either voted in or selected probably deserving, 709 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: Maybe it opens up a spot for a I mean 710 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: it's enough time away, it's like five or six weeks away. Yeah, six, yeah, 711 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: But then again reassessed after three weeks and like, do 712 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: they really want him? I mean, he might get selected 713 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: and then just not playing the game. That could happen. 714 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: Sure disappointing, but well we'll see. It's it's enough time away. 715 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: All right, let's take our first break. When we come back, 716 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: we'll hit the beach and read some of your tweets. 717 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: All right, back in the Classic Factory. I'm taking Cooper's 718 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: word here in the stream team, but apparently that five 719 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: K that was won at the Jazz game last night 720 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 2: was a putting game. Ah yeah, not a half court 721 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: shot or even like a layup, free throw, three pointer 722 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: type thing. 723 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: Putting, like what a ten footer? Cooper too short? 724 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: Let's cop yeah, or my guess because I've seen these before, 725 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: these like little games like the on the floor, right yeah, 726 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: like the whole thing, give it on the floor. Yeah, 727 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: I know, they get very lucky. 728 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: Like the length of the floor you're saying. 729 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: Possibly, wow, twenty plus twenty plus feet? Okay, so that's 730 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: the pot to the floor. It's a putt. It's a 731 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: put on hardwood. Not easy. Steph curR con do it 732 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 2: in sleep. 733 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Steph probably does a pregame. He doesn't get ripped 734 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 3: like DeAndre Ayton does pre game. 735 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 4: No. 736 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 3: Uh, but you know those ones where you like usually 737 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 3: I think it's usually a hockey stick where you shoot 738 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 3: it the length of the floor into a small little 739 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 3: hole type thing. Those are fun. Can't wait for the 740 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: NHL All Star Game Challenge, Skills Challenge, whatever it's called 741 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 3: on Saturday. Remember last year they did it in the Bolagio. 742 00:33:51,560 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a blast. It's rivaling NBA Saturday Night out here. 743 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 3: You yep, it's good. You should watch it. It's so good. 744 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: I love it. 745 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: All right, enough, enough ice talk. Let's get to the beach, Janie. 746 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 3: We're watching it on playback, the NHL Skills we are. 747 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: I want to watch the World Rumble with you guys 748 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: on play all right, Yeah, I want to take a 749 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 2: picture with a bunch of Montreal Canadians moms guys on playback. 750 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 2: Shut Alex. We were looking up the ages last night 751 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: of a Vegkin only thirty seven. I thought he was 752 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 2: way older. And then uh, y yager army or yogurt 753 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: ye fifty still playing in a check league, scord getting buckets. 754 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: All right, we're on the beach. Yeah, that's what we're 755 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 2: doing here. We are answering your questions and comments. A 756 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: lot of these came through on Twitter yesterday, so thanks 757 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 2: for sending them all in. First, one from the Hoop 758 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 2: Troop wants to know which team is under the most 759 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: pressure to make a move this deadline. Oh, like Karen though, 760 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: the waves crashing up on the shore, But we're talking 761 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 2: pressure here. 762 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 3: It's like the opposite of pressure. Yeah, the water crashing happen. 763 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 2: You got well. I mean there's a lot of teams 764 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 2: we can pick from, but who does under the movest pressure. 765 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 3: I think it's the Clippers. This is year they. 766 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: Didn't expect the Clippers. I'm being honest. 767 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're middling right now. You know, they're a 768 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 3: mid team and this is year four of the experiment. 769 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: They did make a conference final, but that's it through 770 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 3: this Paul Georgian Kawhi Leonard experiment and doesn't feel like 771 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 3: these dudes are getting better with age. So I think 772 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: they kind of have to do something. 773 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 2: Now. You say do something, you mean get more talent 774 00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 2: around them. 775 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, I don't think not blow it up, oh no, 776 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 3: but just some life support, some some backstops here because 777 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 3: it just ain't working all that well. Now it's gonna 778 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,479 Speaker 3: come down to Kauahi being Kawhi. That's what it's gonna 779 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 3: come down to. But I think if you just try 780 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 3: and do something, it's it's it's gonna be hard to 781 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 3: do something. I guess I'm thinking more internally, it just 782 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 3: feels like this is their last gasp at this experiment 783 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 3: of Paul George, because not only has Kawhi injured every 784 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 3: single season, but it feels like Paul George's and he 785 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 3: is in and out of the lineup, so his injuries 786 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 3: are concerned talking about injuries, but at the same time, 787 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 3: this feels like this is year four or four and 788 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 3: where does it go from here? Kwai signed long term. 789 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 3: I guess they're thinking still long term, but it just 790 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 3: feels like they gotta go for it. 791 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 2: That's sort of their get out of jail free card. 792 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 2: Though with this right, we'll try to say that they 793 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 2: don't need to like make a move, there's not pressure 794 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 2: to make another trade, even though they've done moves obviously. 795 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 2: normOn Palence like that last year. It's like, hey, if 796 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: these guys play, we're awesome. But it turns out availability 797 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 2: is an importability, and so I don't know That's why 798 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: I was interested or surprised you took the Clippers. But 799 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:14,959 Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying. 800 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 3: But they're not even that awesome. That's the thing. 801 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: No, they're not that bad. When they play, they're really good. 802 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 3: The record is is it? 803 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's better than their overall one percentage? But what 804 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 2: team mean with. 805 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 4: I'm also in LA, but I think it's the Lakers. 806 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 4: I think at this point, Lebron is basically saying, you 807 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 4: better make some trades because I'm tired of balling out 808 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 4: here all by myself. You know, he's calling basically calling 809 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 4: out Rob Polinka, saying, I'm not here to just be 810 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 4: playing basketball. I'm here to be competing for championships. And 811 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 4: the Lakers are not a championship competing team right now. 812 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 4: They looked good when Anthony Davis was playing his absolute best. 813 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 4: Lebron is still obviously an incredible player, But that's it. 814 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 4: And even if it's those two guys, they would be 815 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 4: a scary team to face in a playoff matchup. But 816 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 4: you're probably taking most of the teams that are going 817 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,959 Speaker 4: to actually have home court advantage rather than a Lakers 818 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 4: team that's going to be playing through the play in 819 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 4: tournament once again. It would be nice for them, I'm sure, 820 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 4: to not have to play those extra couple of games 821 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 4: and actually be able to prepare for a playoffs series 822 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 4: going forward. So I think with the how well Lebron 823 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 4: is playing right now and the comments that he is 824 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 4: saying to the media, the fact that he deleted a 825 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 4: tweet saying I'll never miss the playoffs again, I think 826 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 4: he's fretting a little bit here, which means there's going 827 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 4: to be a lot of pressure put on their front 828 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 4: of us. 829 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 2: You would think. So, I think you could pick from 830 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 2: all these teams that have disappointed so far this season. 831 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,720 Speaker 2: I'm talking about my Raptors, probably the Bulls, the Hawks, 832 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 2: the Wolves. The pressure there is from the expectations. You know, 833 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 2: a lot of those teams I just listed most people 834 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 2: thought would be very easily a forty five plus win team, 835 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 2: probably a fifty win team in a lot of their cases. 836 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 2: And they are like sub five hundred teams that look 837 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 2: bad on most nights, and it's like, do you need 838 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 2: to shake it up? Is it just a coaching change? 839 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 2: In some situations, like there's ways to go about it. 840 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 2: But I'll be pretty shocked if those four teams I 841 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: listed at least one of them. Two of them don't 842 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 2: make some move to try and turn their season around. 843 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: With you know, still half a season to go. 844 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 3: Let's get some moves going. Thirty six days till the deadline. 845 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 3: I think we should do what we thought we could 846 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 3: have possibly been doing eleven years ago and put ourselves 847 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 3: in a box during the walkout. Yeah, until they resolved 848 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 3: the lockout issue. We should put ourselves in a box 849 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 3: till there's a trade. 850 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 2: This factory isn't that big. Yeah, this is just a 851 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 2: big box man. 852 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 3: Thirty six days. Wow, so many teams to deal so much. 853 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, I thought that feels long. The 854 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 2: deadline was like two weeks from now. 855 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 3: In my head, January is a long ass month. 856 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 4: It's one of the longest that's up there for the 857 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 4: longest fact. 858 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 2: A month and change till the deadline. 859 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 4: The Hawks is interesting though, because they switched their GM 860 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 4: in the middle of the season. Travis Schlank resigned and 861 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 4: now Landry Fields is the guy making the decision. Their 862 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 4: coach wants to quit or he doesn't want to quit. 863 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,439 Speaker 4: Their players like each other when they're away from the court, 864 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 4: but maybe not playing on the court, it feels like 865 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 4: the Hawks have so much to figure out in thirty 866 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 4: six days. No, and they've been trying to figure out 867 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 4: how to trade John Collins for thirty six years. It 868 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 4: feels like So I don't know if Landry Field is 869 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 4: going to finally crack the code, but the Hawks, with 870 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 4: the way this season is going, combined with the way 871 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 4: last season went after going to the conference finals, something 872 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 4: is going to have to change, which is crazy because 873 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 4: something has changed a lot for the Hawks in the 874 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 4: past two seasons. 875 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 876 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a combustible situation. I think what also flew 877 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 3: under the radar yet Landry Fields took over the day 878 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 3: to day operations, but they also let go of three 879 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 3: other front office executives that Showan's reported just didn't see 880 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 3: that coming. The senior adviser Rod Higgins, director of pro 881 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 3: scouting and vice president of player Personnel, Stephen Giles, and 882 00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 3: Derek Pierce. 883 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,479 Speaker 2: They really shuffle the deck. 884 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 3: So it feels like things are changeable. Nate is staying on. Yeah, 885 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 3: it's it's tough because they could have easily beat the Warriors. 886 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 3: They do play some good stretches, but. 887 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, great, next one, what do you got. 888 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 3: I got this, Carrie says, with the Pistons, Rockets, Magic, Thunder, 889 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 3: et cetera. All in rebuild mode, who do you think 890 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 3: has the best blueprint? 891 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 2: Pistons, Rockets, Magic Thunder. There is an et cetera there 892 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 2: you can have some more teams, Trey, which team you 893 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 2: going with? Who's set up the best here? And why? 894 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 4: Here's my order? I'm going Thunder, Rockets, Magic, Pistons of these. 895 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 4: Look at these four teams that Carry is talking about here, 896 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 4: I think I got the Thunder first because they got 897 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 4: the best player in Shake Gilgess Alexander. That's a great start. 898 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 4: Jalen Williams is looking like a pretty solid guy, really 899 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 4: good cutter. I feel like he plays sideways a lot, 900 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 4: which is pretty strange. Rather than going north and south, 901 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 4: he goes east west. But it works because it's such 902 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 4: a unique thing. Last night was different. He just went 903 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 4: down the lane like one hundred times. I think he 904 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 4: had four dunks in the half court and it was 905 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 4: like one dribble moves. It wasn't anything spicy, but he 906 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 4: does a little bit of everything. A nice wing guy. 907 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 4: Giddy seems to be a pretty solid player. But I 908 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 4: think Shay and both Josh Giddy are gonna have to 909 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 4: get better at three point shooting for them to be 910 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 4: a realistic combination of a back court. Shaes at thirty 911 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,240 Speaker 4: five percent, Giddy's at thirty four percent league average. That's fine, 912 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 4: but they barely take any threes, so they got to 913 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 4: figure that out. I think the Rockets, though, as a whole, 914 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 4: have the best collection of talent. I think they have 915 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 4: the makings of a big three in Jalen Green and 916 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 4: Jabari Smith in Ouprihing sheng Gun. The question for them 917 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,919 Speaker 4: right now is when do they move off of Kevin 918 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 4: Porter Junior as a starter and primary ball handler. And 919 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 4: I think they're going to need a new coach going 920 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 4: forward because Silas doesn't seem to necessarily realize what he 921 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 4: has in sheng Gun went on to my eyes Magic, 922 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 4: they need a point guard, but they might get two 923 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 4: top ten picks and Detroit. It's all on Ky Cunningham's shoulders, really, 924 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 4: and he's out for the season. They don't have any 925 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 4: picks coming in or out, so it's gonna be whoever 926 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 4: they pick this season and whatever Kate ends up being. 927 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 4: So I got them lowest on the total Paul, but 928 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 4: they're doing all right, yeah. 929 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 2: All four of them, Like in terms of rebuilding, there 930 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 2: are pieces there, Like just to add to what you're 931 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 2: saying with the with the Magic, obviously, Pallo looks I 932 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 2: mean he's one rookie year basically already and looks like 933 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 2: the real deal and a guy you can like build 934 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 2: your franchise around. I would add to the Thunder who 935 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 2: I would have number one again in large part because 936 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 2: of Sga being the best player on these four teams. 937 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 2: They have chet helt holmgrin too. Yeah, they have the 938 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,240 Speaker 2: number two pick obviously not playing at all this season, 939 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 2: we don't think so he'll be there. But yeah, like 940 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 2: with Kid and with all the Rockets talent, like they're 941 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 2: set up here, they're like you see it right that 942 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 2: it could take another year in most cases maybe two 943 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 2: to get back into the mix. But no one's like 944 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 2: all four of those. I don't go like, oh they're screwed. 945 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 3: Yeah right, Yeah, it's interesting. I think the Rockets have 946 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 3: a lot of solid guys and it's solid across the board. 947 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 3: But I think the Magic and Pistons just have a 948 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 3: touch more star power in Boncaro and Kate Cunningham. So 949 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 3: they've done they all four have done really well to 950 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 3: get solid guys and you're just looking for a star, baby. 951 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 3: And it's interesting how the Thunder got their star when 952 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 3: you look back how they were able to acquire shake 953 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 3: bills as Alexander. It wasn't even through the draft. It 954 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 3: was through the trade via Travia Travi a trade. It 955 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 3: was Paul George that they had that they got because 956 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 3: of Victor Oladipo, who they got in a trade originally 957 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 3: from the Magic So that was for Serge of Baka. 958 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 3: So they got their star through a whole bunch of trades. 959 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 3: Everybody's looking for a star the Rockets. I wonder you 960 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,399 Speaker 3: know who materializes. Is it gonna be Jayalen Green scheng Gun? 961 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 3: Obviously they both look great, but Buoncaro and Kate. You 962 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 3: can build around those guys and super excited for the 963 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 3: Thunder like the Rockets are doing. They have so many 964 00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 3: athletic guys to go around Shay and chat, so I 965 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 3: think they have the makings of just being good for 966 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 3: a long time. So hopefully the Rockets get a star 967 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 3: to do that as well. 968 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 2: Next question here from vic Vic. Do you see a 969 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:16,720 Speaker 2: scenario where no team in the Western Conference cracks fifty wins, Vicvic. 970 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of parody potential that we 971 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 2: don't even have a fifty win season. They would have 972 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 2: a response to this is Vicvic reaching on this one. 973 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 3: The man is reaching, he's reaching a man or woman. 974 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 3: No man, man or woman, woman here is reaching, Vicvic. 975 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 3: It would be hard. That would be very hard to do. 976 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 3: Like the Nuggets are twenty four and thirteen. They're thirty 977 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 3: seven games in, so if they're won and three the 978 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 3: next four games, they're basically on pace, you know, halfway 979 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 3: through the season. To be a fifty win team, they'd 980 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 3: have to No, they don't have to lose to each other, 981 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 3: and somebody's got to win games. It just doesn't really 982 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 3: make it. 983 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 2: I went back through Basketball Reference, like all the seasons 984 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 2: for the last like basically this century, right, so since 985 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 2: like two thousand, I can only find when you remove 986 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 2: shortened seasons of course, like the lockout and the last 987 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 2: couple of seasons that we had because of the pandemic 988 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 2: and all that, where they took away games. But I 989 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 2: can only find one instance where in one conference we 990 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 2: only had one fifty win team. I couldn't find one 991 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 2: over the last like twenty two plus years where there 992 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 2: was none in either conference, and it was you you'll 993 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 2: never guess it. But the two to three season in 994 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 2: the East, we only had one fifty win team and 995 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 2: it was the Pistons at fifty to thirty two. And 996 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 2: then there was a lot of forty nine. 997 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, bad times at the easternence rectly two. 998 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 2: Thousand and you know, there's a couple other instances where 999 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 2: there's only two fifty win teams in a conference. Usually 1000 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 2: it's a lot in the East. In the West there 1001 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 2: was usually a lot more. But I don't think this 1002 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 2: is happening here. 1003 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 4: Three teams are on pace to win fifty games right now, 1004 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 4: so I think there'll probably be two as the season 1005 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 4: goes on. The bad teams that are competitive right now, 1006 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 4: those are gonna be easy wins come March in April, 1007 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,439 Speaker 4: so that's how you end up stacking up win So yeah, 1008 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 4: I think I think we'll get. 1009 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 2: A couple of teams, yeah, how many? 1010 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,720 Speaker 3: Respect though respect to vic Vic's foresight here, the West 1011 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 3: is oh yeah, filled with parody, there's no doubt, But yeah, 1012 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 3: there will be a split at some point. 1013 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 2: Do you hope one day one conference every team will 1014 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 2: be well, I guess every team in the league both 1015 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 2: and will all be decided by tiebreaker charity. 1016 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. I love thinking about that. 1017 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 2: All right, Sorry, vic Vic, I don't think it's happening. 1018 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 2: There's gonna be a couple of fifty win teams, not 1019 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 2: a lot, probably, but it will be a lot of 1020 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 2: like we've seen before, like forty eight win teams, forty 1021 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 2: nine win teams, something like that. 1022 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing that there's no parody with 1023 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 3: these email names that are being sent in this one 1024 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 3: from Buddha Bee. 1025 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 2: Well, these are tweets. 1026 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,720 Speaker 3: Well whatever, yeah, yeah, and today's day and age their names. 1027 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:53,280 Speaker 3: Buddha Be says, what is your starting five quote? Most 1028 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 3: fun players to watch? Team from the East specifically, and 1029 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 3: from the West. Let's do them both. Then, which team 1030 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 3: do you think would win a best of three series? 1031 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 3: All right, fun team to watch in the fun team 1032 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 3: to watch in the West. And who would win a 1033 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 3: best of three? 1034 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you mine, just my most fun players 1035 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 2: to watch Fun time is obviously very very subjective. These 1036 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 2: are not the best players in the league, but ones 1037 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 2: that I want to see play. I did take out 1038 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 2: some guys that were sort of injured like I took 1039 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 2: Zion like out of the mix just because he picked 1040 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 2: up this injury. But anyway, I'll start in the East. 1041 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 2: My most fun team to watch this season. I got Yannis, 1042 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 2: I got Kevin Durant, I got Kyrie Irving, I got Halliburton, 1043 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,879 Speaker 2: and then I was struggling with my fifth. If I'm 1044 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 2: being honest, I went with a wild pick for myself. 1045 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 2: But I love this guy when he's on. He's got 1046 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 2: a dog in them. Jimmy Butler. I went with Jimmy. 1047 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 2: He's fun. So the honest Katie, Kyrie, Tyrie's Haliburton and 1048 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler. Okay, that's my East. Please hold your thoughts 1049 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 2: on who will win a best of three series in 1050 00:48:54,320 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 2: the West? Jokic Luca Curry. Though I just broke my 1051 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 2: rule that I said, you know, no injured players, but 1052 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 2: I'm putting Curry in there. John Morant and then you 1053 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 2: know me, I'm a big SGA fan and I love 1054 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 2: the way that guy slithers around. Uh So I went 1055 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 2: with those The Joker, Luca Curry, jaw s g A. 1056 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 2: Who's winning that battle? I love that it's a best 1057 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 2: of three, not one game, not five not seven, just three. 1058 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,760 Speaker 2: Which team's better? It's got to be the West. 1059 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, by far, I mean you're taught Luca, Jokic, 1060 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 4: Curry and jaw Yeah yeah, that's uh, that's that's four 1061 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 4: m vps. 1062 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 2: Basically, what about that defense from Jannis and Jimmy Butler? 1063 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 2: Not a lot to play? You're okay? Who has some 1064 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 2: emissions on your I'm sure there's some other names. Of course, 1065 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 2: you love him. 1066 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 4: I love watching Kuzma. I mean, yeah, you can pick 1067 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 4: the most famous guys in the league. Those guys are fun. 1068 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,439 Speaker 4: Shanguon is on my list. He's one of my three 1069 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 4: most watchable players this year. I got de Rosan over 1070 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler and and I've got embiid over Kyrie Irving. 1071 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 3: Okay, yep, well yeah, I had him beat over Kyrie. 1072 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 3: I think he named them all the ones I was 1073 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 3: looking at. That's it done. No more fun players in 1074 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 3: the league. There's a lot of fun players in the 1075 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 3: National Basketball Association right now. I enjoyed Darren Fox a 1076 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 3: lot last night. There's a whole bunch, but well done, everybody. 1077 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 2: Next one final one from Jobber ninety nine classic with 1078 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 2: NBA players taking better care of their bodies to maximize longevity. 1079 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 2: Is it finally time to bring back the old timers game? 1080 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 2: Make it a half court if you have to ask, 1081 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,959 Speaker 2: you're talking about All Star Weekend. You said it's bad. 1082 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 2: Now you said you'd rather watch Hockey's All Star Skills 1083 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 2: Challenge whatever it is. 1084 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's more to do with the NHL skills. 1085 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 3: It's just damn good. Okay, But yeah, we could have 1086 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 3: a free throw missing contest at All Star Weekend. We 1087 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 3: could also have the oldies go play. That's a great 1088 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 3: question from jobber, And I think you may have to 1089 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 3: fill out some of the roster with some jobbers. I mean, 1090 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 3: just with some guys who can run up and down 1091 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 3: the floor, because I don't think you can fill out 1092 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 3: full rosters of old guys. 1093 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 2: They used to do this. 1094 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 3: They used to do this, and guys got injured, so 1095 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 3: they stopped. Tommy Hinson's big belly, God rest, his soul 1096 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 3: was going up and down the floor. Pull the hammy, 1097 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,799 Speaker 3: get him off the floor. So it makes But but 1098 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 3: I like jobbers question here because guys are just way 1099 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 3: more conscious of keeping it shape. That being said, you know, 1100 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 3: thirty minutes in Planet Fitness on the treadmill a little 1101 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 3: differ than runn up and down the floor. But if 1102 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 3: you pass a fitness test, I think you got to 1103 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 3: go through a little fitness test to be able to play. 1104 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 2: Just put that on the air too, like that Friday 1105 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 2: Night old Timer. 1106 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, for the Sichos on ESPN two. Whatever you can 1107 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:57,240 Speaker 3: he ha spend news. Maybe watch that. Sure Ray Allen 1108 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 3: can go play right now? 1109 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 4: You know how old what constitutes an old time midtimers 1110 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 4: will be easy. Like it's called the Big Three. They 1111 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:04,399 Speaker 4: do it all the. 1112 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 2: Time, right right, right, right, Okay. 1113 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 4: I don't think it would be hard to fill out 1114 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 4: rosters at all. It's like there's an entire roster at 1115 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 4: NBA TV of guys who just got out of the league. 1116 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,839 Speaker 4: There's an old another roster of guys who have their 1117 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 4: own podcast. There's a whole other roster of guys who 1118 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 4: are on the broadcast call like roll Stacy King out there. 1119 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 4: Let's see if he can play Stacy King versus Ryan Hollins. 1120 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 4: Those are a couple of guys who are on broadcast. 1121 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 4: JJ Reddick still looks great. Richard Jefferson was playing in 1122 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 4: the league like two seasons ago. There's a lot of 1123 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 4: guys who were just out of the league who could 1124 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 4: easily go and play. 1125 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 2: So yah, but would you want to watch that game? 1126 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,319 Speaker 4: No, I don't watch that Big Three. 1127 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 2: I watched the NBA. Smart. 1128 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,320 Speaker 3: That's smart because those guys are we're talking like forty 1129 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 3: max those are the Big Three guys like they're around 1130 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 3: that age. Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, but the old timers 1131 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 3: game was. 1132 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 2: They were well, but that I guess this is the 1133 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,240 Speaker 2: point that Job's saying, like forty forty twenty years ago. 1134 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 3: You know, fell fell old. 1135 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 2: But these guys are, you know, playing so much longer 1136 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 2: that there's probably still in fairly good condition and they 1137 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 2: don't feel as old. But maybe that's me saying that 1138 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:10,839 Speaker 2: as a forty two year old. 1139 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 3: No, they can get up and down and they can play. Okay, 1140 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 3: you're right, the Jobber's right, they could play. Yeah, we're 1141 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 3: what age are we going here? Even if you go 1142 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 3: a little older, there's some older guys, like I said, 1143 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 3: ray Allan, Reggie Miller cycles up and down mountains in California. 1144 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 3: Yeah he can play. 1145 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 2: Yeh yeah. Look, they put like usually what to aside 1146 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 2: in the celebrity game, like they pick they pick a 1147 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 2: couple old like legends. You know, Pippens played before, I think, 1148 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 2: and the Mullein's played I mean, just like off the 1149 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 2: top of my head here, But like so there's there's guys. 1150 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,439 Speaker 2: It's just the question is, does anybody care to watch 1151 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 2: the game? I guess maybe because it's been so long, 1152 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 2: I could see, like, oh, let's let's see if ray 1153 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 2: Allen's still got the three points shot. It might be 1154 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 2: interesting for a half or something. But do it every 1155 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 2: like one through ten years. I guess sure. I don't 1156 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,359 Speaker 2: think it needs to be every season. Ex Players, Yeah, 1157 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 2: I like it. 1158 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 4: That's why I think he got to involve all the 1159 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 4: people who have their own media empires. That way they 1160 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 4: can talk trash about it. 1161 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1162 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,760 Speaker 2: I like that podcasts Okay, so like we're getting Gilbert 1163 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:11,760 Speaker 2: Aarinas out there. 1164 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 4: Exactly, Gilbernarina's talking trash all JJ Reddick couldn't gard you're 1165 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 4: in the NBA. He can't guard me, now, that kind 1166 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 4: of thing. Get the knuckleheads, Get the knuckleheads, Get Steven Jackson, 1167 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 4: get Matt Barnes. There's a lot of guys around who 1168 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 4: were just recently. 1169 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 2: Playing create content around the game. 1170 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 4: They already missed the chance to do my greatest idea, 1171 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,319 Speaker 4: what have been perfect? At NBA seventy five? Can they 1172 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 4: still dunk? Get all the seventy five players out there, 1173 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 4: Let's just see if they can still dunk. Doctor J 1174 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 4: dunk at sixty five, that'll be pretty cool. 1175 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,839 Speaker 3: It's true. I brought that up with my family over 1176 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 3: Christmas weekend. Doctor J walking by him at All Star Weekend, 1177 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 3: still looking cool at sixty And the second thing I 1178 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 3: said was he dunked at sixty. Yeah, it's pretty impressive. Yeah, 1179 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 3: everybody loves the guy who can dunk. 1180 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 2: You got something there, Jobber ninety nine. We're in for 1181 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 2: at least one one year of it. I was tested 1182 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,799 Speaker 2: out this old timers game a half quarter. No, it 1183 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,319 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Keep your questions coming, though, Tweet them in 1184 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 2: at No Dunk Sinc, Email them in No Dunks at 1185 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 2: the Athletic dot Com, or drop them in the YouTube comments. 1186 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 2: Gotta take our final break when we come back, pick 1187 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 2: them results and tweet them the night. Wow. We are 1188 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 2: now playing Classic ad Reads TBT, the classic small throat 1189 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 2: ad Reads. It's legendary pick of results. Last night it 1190 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 2: was that Wizard's Bucks game Milwaukee. They were the favorites 1191 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 2: by eight and a half points, so I had to 1192 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,399 Speaker 2: win by nine or more and they pull it out 1193 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 2: in the end. Oh boy, we were watching on playback, 1194 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 2: living and dying with every final possession. So that's a 1195 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 2: win again for Trey. You're a perfect in twenty twenty 1196 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 2: three or two and oh I'm one and one with 1197 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 2: that victory and task oh to two. Still looking for 1198 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 2: your first one here in January. Million games on tonight. 1199 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 2: Because it's Wednesday, I assume. 1200 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 3: A big slate tonight, and the Bulls are hosting the 1201 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 3: Nets in one of the big games, and there's a 1202 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 3: big line in it. Five and a half points. The 1203 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:05,399 Speaker 3: Chicago Bulls are getting as the home dah and lose 1204 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 3: by five in cover. 1205 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:11,399 Speaker 2: Okay, I get trade taking the Bulls. What why are you. 1206 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 3: Five and a half points at home? I'm taking lock. 1207 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 3: I don't care who's playing. 1208 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the one twelfth straight man. 1209 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 6: You know. 1210 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,319 Speaker 2: If Katie's gonna score fifty eight tonight, that's a what 1211 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 2: do you think is over under his it's gotta be 1212 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 2: thirty five plus five and a half. 1213 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of a lot of season highs against 1214 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 4: the Chicago Bulls if you're over six ft two, Uh, 1215 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 4: so yeah, I'll be honest with you. I had BKN 1216 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 4: in there and I switched up to Chicago. 1217 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 2: I couldn't do it. 1218 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 4: I couldn't do it to my guys. But uh, I 1219 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 4: don't know. I watching that last two minute report. Hey, 1220 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,320 Speaker 4: something to complain about tomorrow. 1221 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,399 Speaker 2: Hey, Look, as we as we could just saw last night, 1222 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 2: anything can happen in this league. I think a lot 1223 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 2: of people probably would have the Celtics steamroll in the 1224 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 2: thunder without SGA. Instead, they got one hundred and fifty 1225 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 2: put on their head. All right, so the Nets got 1226 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 2: to win by six. Are more on the road in Chicago. 1227 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,399 Speaker 2: Tweet in the nighttime, tweet over night. 1228 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,799 Speaker 3: Wow. 1229 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, A couple of things real quick. First of all, 1230 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 4: shout out to all of our listeners. 1231 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 2: On pocket casts. 1232 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, trying to shout out some of the other 1233 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 4: third party apps out there that people listened to. You know, 1234 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 4: it's not all pod being, not all pod being out there. 1235 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 4: Number two, circle back right here, Kevin Durant over under 1236 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,439 Speaker 4: for tonight according to bet MGM twenty eight and a half. 1237 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 2: Take the over, take it, take that over. I mean, 1238 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 2: I guess your one concern would be if they blow 1239 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,479 Speaker 2: them out. I mean he only had like what twenty five? Yeah, thirty? Yeah, okay, 1240 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 2: but hit the. 1241 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 3: Over Yeah yeah. 1242 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 4: Bulls have actually been playing their best basketball this season 1243 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 4: right now, so maybe they will keep it close. That'd 1244 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 4: be nice. But like, like we said, there was a 1245 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 4: million games on on Monday Night. Also a million games 1246 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 4: on tonight. This we missed from a Monday night game. 1247 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 4: This is a tweet from Jackson Rank, who alerted the 1248 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 4: internet to a funny ending to the Philadelphia seventy six ers. 1249 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 4: James Harden closed out Monday's game spinning the ball on 1250 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 4: his finger for like fifteen seconds drawl. Embiid offered to 1251 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 4: take the shot clock violation and turnover, but Harden didn't 1252 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 4: care about the turnover. They just wrestled for the ball. 1253 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 3: That's just a funny ending to a game, yeah, Luri. 1254 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 4: Usually it's like, hah, I'll pass you the ball at 1255 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 4: the very last second, you sucker. Now you got a 1256 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 4: shot clock violation turnover. But these guys like each other 1257 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 4: so much that they're fighting over a turnover. Undeniable evidence 1258 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 4: that the vibes are great in Philadelphia right now. I 1259 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 4: don't know if you would have said that a month 1260 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 4: and a half into the season, but hardening embiid they 1261 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 4: seem to be getting a lawn. Yeah, spinning and. 1262 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 2: Joe, that's, by the way, way more disrespectful to the 1263 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 2: other team than a team like throwing down a fast 1264 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 2: risk here. Yeah, that's way more dis have to agree, Like, 1265 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 2: we're literally Harlem Globe trotting on your ass here because 1266 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 2: we beat You know, I love it, don't run. 1267 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 4: We're very funny, so bad we're argue over who gets 1268 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 4: a two? 1269 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is bad. Right, It's like Devonte Green excuse me, 1270 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 2: Graham like steps in there. It almost looks like what 1271 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 2: should I do here? Should I? Should I slap the ball? Aways? 1272 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 3: I get it? 1273 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 2: Let them just keep spinning it, yeah yeah, and beans 1274 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 2: sort of blocking up so I can't get to it. 1275 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 3: Hilarious on both counts. I would say, if I was 1276 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 3: em beat, I would know that Harden wouldn't give a 1277 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 3: crap about a turnover, right, Well it would Harden hair. 1278 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 2: Is it a team turnover? Yeah, but it's it's a 1279 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:30,920 Speaker 2: stranger you got it. 1280 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm surprised there wasn't a little bit more of 1281 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 3: a defender James Harden last night. This is how bad 1282 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 3: gambling is. Last night, We're watching on playback ten points spread, 1283 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 3: twenty four seconds to go, and Milwaukee is dribbling out 1284 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 3: the clock. Games over. They're up ten, but the line 1285 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 3: was eight and a half. So if the Wizards steal 1286 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 3: the ball and score, the shot clock was off. But 1287 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 3: I was thinking play d because I because I took 1288 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 3: the Wizards at the same same time, gambling is rough, 1289 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 3: I'll say that, and also don't do it. And also 1290 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 3: you got to play the last second. Everybody's got We. 1291 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 2: Don't even podcast in the last second, man, let alone 1292 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,000 Speaker 2: play a competitive basketball game. We don't. We mail it 1293 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 2: into the Sea blog all the time. 1294 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 3: How you said the Sea blocks the best blog. 1295 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 2: Well, it's coming back because I gonna come back this. 1296 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 2: This is a good question. The Sea blog is only 1297 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 2: good because of the stream team. So we're talking about 1298 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 2: spinning it on his finger like harden ones. What are 1299 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 2: like the most disrespectful things or funny things you could 1300 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 2: do at the end of the game. GiMA says, put 1301 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 2: the ball under your jersey like you're pregnant. 1302 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 4: Good one, what talk it that jersey? 1303 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 2: Son? I like that one. Let's think of some other ones, 1304 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,480 Speaker 2: like just how about to really be disrespectful? 1305 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 4: If you lay down as the basketball is a pillow bead, 1306 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 4: taking night night to the next level. 1307 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,919 Speaker 2: This would get you a fine but just straight punt 1308 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 2: the ball like kick it. 1309 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 3: A globe trotter has put it on your right arm. 1310 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 3: Get it over to you, go back and for it. 1311 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 3: I would get you a tecker. 1312 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 2: Two. We're gonna need Jerome to photoshop in a basketball 1313 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 2: moving across the back of your eye. You send it, 1314 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 2: send it from you, all right, We'll see how this goes. 1315 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 6: We going, okay, balls right here right now? Fake ballaball? 1316 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:43,160 Speaker 6: All right, go to the solid You said we don't 1317 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 6: podcast the last second. 1318 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 2: That is great. That's great audio right there. I'll tell 1319 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 2: you that. That's why you got to join us on YouTube. 1320 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 2: Everybody fun fun. Ending to the show. Thanks again for 1321 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 2: all the questions, guys, love the stream team, Hit the 1322 01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 2: like button, subscribe if you haven't, share the show with 1323 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,439 Speaker 2: your friends leaver boys. If five star rating and review. 1324 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,440 Speaker 2: If you are a podcast listener, five star Friday on 1325 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 2: the Drop podcast this week. Let's call it there though, 1326 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 2: back tomorrow to try and recap how many games eleven twelve? Yeah, 1327 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 2: many lots, but we'll be here at ten am Eastern 1328 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 2: Live from the Classic Factory, from this box that we 1329 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,640 Speaker 2: put ourselves in every day. Cut a roast. You heard 1330 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,920 Speaker 2: it here first, have a great time, turn up. 1331 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 4: Love you guys, awesome. 1332 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember I was hoping that 1333 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 3: we weren't going to podcast hard until the last second 1334 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 3: because I'm I'm tired. As you could tell, it was 1335 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 3: a little loopy off the top and throughout this show. 1336 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 3: No sleep last night. Oh a lot of rain storms here, 1337 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 3: rack of. 1338 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 2: Thunder, thunder was rolling agar. It was loud. Man, I slept. 1339 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 2: I usually sleep like a damn baby. I was up 1340 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 2: all night last night being woken up from the storm. 1341 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully everybody's all right. Yep. We go from tornado 1342 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 3: warnings to flash flood warnings today and Georgian's not the 1343 01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 3: best drivers. 1344 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 2: I'll say, be careful. I'd be very careful driving up today. 1345 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 2: All right, We'll see you guys. Throw morning braceday people. 1346 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 2: M