1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: What's about You're happy hour. Good to have you back 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: again this week, and of course I have Tasia with 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: me to cover all things that went down in last 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: night steamy episode. That's right, guys, we have another great 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: episode for you. We're just gonna dive in and talk 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: about everything and that we saw on last night's episode, 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: because we have three incredible men that had wild dates 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: and fantasy suites, and so we try to figure out 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: what's going to happen next week. M okay, Tassia. First 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: of all, I can't want it that the finale is 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: already next week. I know it's wild, Like even though 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: I know each week, I'm like it's going by so fast, 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: like it's halfway done, and now we're three fours done, 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: and the fact that this is the end, now it 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: is near. This is funny. It's like it's it's gone 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: by so fast. And I think I'm actually kind of 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: excited to not have a guest this week, because I'm 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: sure you can attest to this, but being now on 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: both sides, so you're on the bad shirt and then 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: as bad Shirrette, we get so many questions about Fantasy 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: Sweet Week, and that's kind of why we wanted to 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: just sit down and go over to Y. Yeah, exactly, 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: go over through our experiences, answer some questions because I 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: think when people get to this week, they think like, oh, 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: this is it. You know, they're going to go and 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: like finally have a long time and sleep together and 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: that's all it's focused on. Which that's not the case, 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: Like there's so much that goes into it, and it's 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: really I know that they kept hitting this home hard 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: last night, but it is the most important week come 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: until this point. Yeah, it really is. Well it's for 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: different reasons though, Like obviously me and the families are huge, 33 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: but this is just like time where it's like, Okay, 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: how do you wake up in the morning, you know 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like what do you like? What is 36 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: your personality? Like when the cameras are out there and 37 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: it's just us too, like are we actually vibing? Like 38 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: we don't have a date plan for us? What's what's 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: the conversation look like? Do you stimulate me intellectually or 40 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: other ways? Like there's a lot to find out, drink 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: fantasy sweets and no it's not just sexual. So yeah, well, 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: I think for the most part, and this is something 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: that I mean, we know because we've lived through it, 44 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: and I'm sure anyone who watches this show kind of 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: understands the concept of how it works. Like you have 46 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: your couple that are always on the screen talking yeah, realistically, 47 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: you have a team behind the cameras that are at times, 48 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, telling you what to do, like where to go, go, 49 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: sit here, and then this is what's going to happen next. 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: So Fantasy Sweets is the first time that that's all 51 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: removed and you go and you truly can do whatever 52 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: you want, whether it's ask questions, you know, get intimate, 53 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: have fun and eat snacks, whatever it might be. But 54 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: it's the first time where you can see like, Okay, 55 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: how does this person brush their teeth? Like are they 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: really tim y bathroom? Like are they shot night? Like 57 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: how does it all? You know? How do we interact together? 58 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: It's so important to see how you mentioned like I 59 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: don't know about you. I actually want to ask you this. 60 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Did you have any expectations when you win the Fantasy 61 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: Sweets or did you assume something about somebody and then 62 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: come out the next day and you were totally off base? 63 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: Oh we are we talking about bachelor? In my Bachelor 64 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: because honestly, I don't really talk about Well, that's the thing. 65 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: Both are so different, right like when you wit, so, yeah, 66 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: let's talk about it bachelor versus Bachelor, because we've both 67 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: done the same so bachelorum. I just remember being extremely 68 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: nervous because at this point, it's like, it, does this 69 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: guy really like me? I legitimately was trying to see 70 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: this man in my future. I was legitimately trying to, 71 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, try to work through things and get the 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: questions that I need answered, because again, I have been 73 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: married before, and there were things that I needed to 74 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: make sure that we're going to be checked off of 75 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: my list because I know it kind of entails, and 76 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: so I had a lot of expectation to Maybe that's 77 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: why it was a little nervous, I think going into 78 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: my fantasy suite during the Bachelor, but honestly, I feel 79 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: like it's a conversation for a whole other time. But 80 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: it did not go as I had planned. When you 81 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: were on Colton season, Yeah, did Colton just have a 82 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: fantasy suite with you? Or did he have one with 83 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: both you and Hannah? And then Cassie was lost, and 84 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: that's when she removed herself no, I was the only 85 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: fantasy suite with Colton Underwood. That's wild. Yeah, so I 86 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: was the first one to go. And then honestly, it 87 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: was a really cool day. You went to the edge 88 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: of the world in Portugal, which was phenomenal, and went 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: on a helicopter ride and that was really fun. And 90 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: then we had like this like romantic dinner thing, kind 91 00:04:51,680 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: of romantic suite were absolutely nothing happened, but m what 92 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: happened the very next day was that he supposed to 93 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: go on his day with Hannah, but he actually ended 94 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: up coming to me, breaking up with me, going to Hannah, 95 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: breaking up with Hannah, and going straight to Cassie, and 96 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: Cassie broke up with him. I forgot that's how it 97 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: all went down. Yeah, damn, I have so many questions. 98 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if you so do I okay, I'm 99 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: just gonna because yeah, I don't know if it was 100 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: in his book, which I haven't read, or on his 101 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: show which I haven't seen either. Obviously, everyone everyone in 102 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: bout Churnation talks like he had said. You know, he 103 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: went in that night with you, kept his sweatpants sweatshirt on. 104 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: You guys talked and that was really it, and I 105 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: think he said he felt bad or something like, felt 106 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: very bad for me. Yeah, So what was your take, like, 107 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: was that the case or in your experience was did 108 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: something more happened? First of all, I think it's extremely rude. 109 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: I mean, don't make me seem like this like pity case, 110 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: like he felt so bad for me. Anyway, I'm not 111 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: the only person who should be feeling bad for There 112 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: was other women that were trying to fall in love 113 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: with you and really putting their hearts out on the line. 114 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: So if you feel back for me in that regard, 115 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: then sure. But no, Colton Underwood did actually not sleep 116 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: in sweats and a sweatshirt that night, In case everybody 117 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: that's wondering everyone right now, this has been said multiple times. 118 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: It's been said in his book, it's been said on television, 119 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: it's been said in his show. Apparently he actually slept 120 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: in boxes that night because it was so hot and Portugal. 121 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: I remember, because the door was wide open and it 122 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: was raining outside and it was just like we were 123 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: trying to get airbend nation in so hot and sticky. 124 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: So there's actually no way he would have been in 125 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: the sweats and a sweatshirt. Why why about that? I 126 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: don't I don't know, I don't never when it honestly 127 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: makes me so sad because it's just like at the 128 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: end of the day, like we did have really good 129 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: conversations and I thought that like we were, like we 130 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: ended on a good page. I don't think there's like 131 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: any you know, ill will or there's nothing that like 132 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: happened for us to like not even be friends. So 133 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: for you to make up this like elaborate story that 134 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: like you said on the other side of the bed 135 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: and like you had to sleep with sweats and a 136 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: sweatshirt on because you didn't want me to think that 137 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: you felt so bad and you didn't want me to 138 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: think that anything was gonna happen. Like it's just I 139 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: don't know what you're trying to cover, and I don't 140 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: know why you're dragging me down for something that's not 141 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: something it's not even true, Like it's absolutely not true. Yeah, 142 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: I have no reason to why I want the hell 143 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: I lie. Some people really care care about that image, 144 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, well, okay, so they let me ask you this. 145 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 1: Going through that and knowing he put you through fantasy suits. 146 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: You you had your sleep over slumber party, and then 147 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: next day he breaks up with you, breaks up with him, 148 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: and you obviously saw how everything else transpired after that. 149 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: Then when you went into fantasy suites, were you very 150 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: cognizant of how you wanted to come off to your 151 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: three men in a way that Colton didn't come off 152 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: to you and make you think something different. I think 153 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: what I learned from my first fantasy experience is that 154 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: you can really ask a lot of questions and really 155 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: get to know You could really ask a lot of 156 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: questions and really get to know the other person and 157 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: not have anything else happened. So I think that's what 158 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: I was most looking forward to, And I think that 159 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: that's why my approach when I was a bachelorette is 160 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: just to honestly kind of like let them be and 161 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: see what happens. And I think that I learned a 162 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: lot from the guys in that situation. I think like 163 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: if you kind of just you know, let someone like 164 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: kind of like just talk and like let it all out, 165 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: and when the cameras are not there, you learn a 166 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: lot more if you pay attention totally. It's a little bit, 167 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: that's the thing. Yeah, And you just get the vibe like, Okay, 168 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: let's be honest. We've all woken up next to somebody 169 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: at some point, or you know, you like think you 170 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: know somebody. If you're dating somebody, then you finally have 171 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: those like the first intimate moments or when you're overnight 172 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: and then you're like, oh, I thought, like this isn't 173 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: going a totally different way, or you seem like a 174 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: whole different person, or you have like this idea in 175 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: your head and it doesn't always turn out to be 176 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: that way. Who was the most I'm gonna just get 177 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: kind of dirty right now. Out of the three guys 178 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: that you had fantasy suits with, who was the most 179 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: awkward the next morning? Oh? One thousand percent? Ivan? Really, Well, 180 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: all I had was Ivan and Brandon and I or 181 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: Brandon broke up with me before fantasy suite, and then 182 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: I had it with Zach, So that's right, okay, Ivan, 183 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: and I just, um, yeah, it was. I just remember 184 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: it being really awkward in the morning, And I think 185 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: it's just because I had like learned a lot of 186 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: things and I had like a been reel like I 187 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: don't know what if the future is like a possibility, um, 188 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: and so I think that kind of like shook him 189 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: up a little bit, but I had to be honest, 190 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, in that situation, and it was very awkward. 191 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: I remember like us just sitting there picking the fruit 192 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: and be like, what the hell is happening? Did he 193 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: feel like? Did he express us as well? Um? No, 194 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: I think like he was just I don't know. There's 195 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: just a lot of conversations that took place at night, 196 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: and I think for him it wasn't as big of 197 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: a deal, but for me, like some things were a 198 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: big deal and that's okay, that's perfectly fine. Um. Yeah, 199 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: So I don't think we're both really good at like pretending, 200 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: so we were both like, all right, I'll talk to 201 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: you later. It's such a bizarre world when you get 202 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: so used to constantly being around so many people, right 203 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: like your dating thirty guys on these group dates. You 204 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: have your team that plans the dates, they're around you, 205 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: and so when you have that all removed and it's 206 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: quiet and there's no distractions, at first, you're kind of like, um, 207 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: where where's my fabloy? What's happening? It's such an art transition, 208 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: and honestly, don't get me wrong, and it's a great guy. 209 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: He's really nice. But I will say that there's just like, again, 210 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: we use fantasies for what they're for, to get to 211 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: know each other. Yeah, I want to know about you. 212 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: Which one was awkward for you? The next morning? Did 213 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: you have an awkward one? Um? Well, I'm trying well, 214 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: so I like you. I only had two because I 215 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: sent Jason Tartet, was supposed to be my first fantasy suite, 216 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: sent him home night before the camera's left, just because 217 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: I knew, Like, there was a moment that day where 218 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: I was like, I care about this guy so much 219 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: and he's going to be such an incredible partner, but 220 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: he's just not for me. And in my mind, I'm like, 221 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: I can't drag you into an overnight if I just 222 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: know I'm not going to get there like that, it 223 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: didn't seem fair to me. I mean, at that point, again, 224 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: I only had two men. And the weird part was 225 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: like they didn't know there was only two guys left. 226 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: They didn't know I had sent Jason home, so they thought, 227 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, and as they were having conversations and I 228 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: was watching it back that there was three guys still. 229 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: So I want to tell them until the week before. 230 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: I wanted them to just like focus on what they 231 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: had to focus on. They weren't ard though, No. I 232 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: felt like I was just so ready to like get 233 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: away and have like a lone quiet time and and 234 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: it was just like very I want to say fun. 235 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: Like you know, it's like it was the time where 236 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: we could really like let loose and talk about whatever 237 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: we wanted and like talk about the boring things that 238 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: would never be shown on air, like Blake and I 239 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: I think stayed up like way too late eating peanut 240 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: butter or something. Yeah, but fantasy sweets, man, I tell you, 241 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: it's wild. They're pretty telling. They're very telling. Them you 242 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: can see like who you're extremely comfortable with, and it's 243 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: like really not work, and it's you don't need everybody 244 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: around to kind of feel like the voids and the 245 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: gaps in your conversation and you see who you you know, 246 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: and you can see how clean or dirty someone is. 247 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: That was very important to me. See, Like I wanted 248 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: to know, are they going to throw their boxters and 249 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: socks and just leave them? Are they going to have 250 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: toothpaste all over the countertop? Like what am I working 251 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: with here? What am I potentially getting into a lifetime 252 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: with really Okay, yeah, I guess like they're still in 253 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: their finest behavior though at that point, you know, yeah, 254 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: that's true. Well, let's get into I mean, we have 255 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 1: our own experiences. Michelle had obviously a vastly different experienced 256 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: during her fantasy suites. She did indeed take all men 257 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: to Overnight. So we started with Brandon, had Joe in 258 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: the middle, and then Nate for the I was gonna 259 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: say for the finisher, but they all I will say this, 260 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: they all seemed to go so well, I know, like really, well, 261 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: there's and I feel like there's always like one wild 262 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: card where you're kind of unsure about. I think it 263 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: was going to be Nate, if I would say, they 264 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: thought that it was gonna be Nate where he's gonna 265 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: be like no, I don't think I'm ready. But it 266 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: was actually not the case. So so let's start in 267 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: the beginning. Let's start from the beginning. Yeah, yeah, so 268 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: let's get into it. So we started with Brandon. Yeah, 269 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: they did a cute little horseback ride on the beach. 270 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: Did you fast forward to Joe's though? Did you notice 271 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: when they were feeding the horses? I was like, are 272 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: these the horses that she rode with Brandon. Oh, do 273 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: you think they reuse the same horses they're here? They did, 274 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: they probably had to have, and they had to have, 275 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: which I never put that together, So I guess at 276 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: this point, I'm just so used to like quarantine bachelorette 277 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: and Bachelor is very different than normal Bachelor. Becca, we're 278 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: doing the best weekend two horses. Wait, let me ask 279 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: you this. What because they did this on your season 280 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: Okay back in the day, like during my season and 281 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: previous seasons, they would during this week they would split 282 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: everyone up, like after hometowns. The guys don't live together. 283 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: They don't say in a room together. Yeah. I think 284 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: because of quarantine they had to do that. But I 285 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: just assumed for Michelle's because they're traveling, they can get 286 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: their own rooms. Why are they keeping the men together? Okay, 287 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: so if I don't know if this is necessarily a 288 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: quarantine thing or just to like make the situation awkward, 289 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: Like this is the one part where I actually have 290 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: no clue because the guys Okay, so yes, I do 291 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: remember on Colton's season, us women were all separated and 292 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: that's usually how it goes. But then my season, all 293 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: the guys were still in their main hub because we 294 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: weren't traveling anywhere, and it was extremely awkward. And I 295 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: don't know if it's like for the television aspect of 296 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: it all. It's totally from the television as they had 297 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: the whole resort. You guys had the whole resort and 298 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: you couldn't get two extra rooms for two of the dudes. 299 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: I know, I know, And it's honestly brutal to watch. 300 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: How cringey was this to watch, Oh, it was just 301 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: it was just sad. It wasn't cringey. It was just like, 302 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: oh no, I couldn't even imagine if I was in 303 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: that position. Thank gosh, I didn't have to do it 304 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: during Arias week with the other girls, but I would 305 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: be like, I'm not doing this. I'm not sitting here 306 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: trying to play it cool. Yeah, it was not good. 307 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: It was not good. And you see a whole array 308 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: of feelings. You have Nada wanted, really didn't seem to care. 309 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: And then you have Brandon, he's kind of spiraling, you know, 310 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: overthinking everything in Michelle's relationship with other dudes, and then 311 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: you have Joe just in the middle, you know, minding 312 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: his own business. But I know, but I think that 313 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: that's all they're like, I don't know, defense mechanisms. I 314 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: feel like Nate just like the smile because you and 315 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: be uncomfortable and awkward. Brandon will kind of freak out 316 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: and hyprevently. And Joe, well, it's very hard to see 317 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: a lot of emotion from Joe at times, but it's Joe. Yeah. 318 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: But I have to say, I I think Brandon was 319 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 1: one of my favorite fantasy sweet dates. I thought it 320 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: was so genuine, so cute. I think they have like 321 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: such a special connection and I think like he really 322 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: surprised her, like she seems super like sit in with him, 323 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: you know it just I will say There's was my 324 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: favorite too, because it just seemed easy and like they 325 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: click and she said this before. It's like they're becoming 326 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: best friends and yeah, and you can tell that it's 327 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: just it's not forced. They're like it doesn't seem scripted 328 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: in the way that they communicate with each other. It 329 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: just seems genuine and and like this guy is all 330 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: in and I think he truly treats her like a queen, 331 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: treats her with so much respect and looks at her 332 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: with so much respect that I'm just like he like 333 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: to me, it seems just lining up all the dudes 334 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: and like what they're saying and where they're at. I'm like, 335 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: he's the one. Like he just seems so so heartedly 336 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: present and just like you're it, Like there's no ounce 337 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: of hesitation. Not the other guys are hesitant. It's just 338 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: like he's ready for it. I think if she was like, 339 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: are you ready to get down money right now, he'd 340 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 1: be like absolutely, like let's go. You know, he's solid, 341 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: he's secure, he's right. There's like I don't think any 342 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: question that he wouldn't be ready for an engagement and 343 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: in a marriage and a full lifetime together. Like he's 344 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: all in. Brandon is all in. So with that one, 345 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: I would say it was good to start with him 346 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: because he is so solid, he's such a front runner, 347 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: like you really have to. I would say start Fantasy 348 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: Sweet Week on a really high note, like where the 349 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: foundation is there, and then it gets a little rock. 350 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: We see Joe, who I think this is the loudest 351 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: we've ever seen him, Like the most exuberant we've ever 352 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: seen Joe through Visipline on you know, on this jungle 353 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: picnic Um. I thought that was cute. Though it was 354 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: really cute, like him screaming, it was still even like 355 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: such an a quiet scream, was like, Oh, Joe's loudest 356 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: is probably my quietest. Seriously, oh man, But there's something 357 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: about Joe that I'm still missing and I know, and 358 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: I was trying to think about it more or less 359 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 1: as I'm watching, and I think Joe has a tendency 360 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: to um. I think if Michelle asks him a question 361 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: or wants to get to know him, you know, obviously 362 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: on a deeper level, he has a tendency to just 363 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: kind of repeat what she's saying, so she'll not answer 364 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: and not answer and just kind of give her this 365 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: like very vaguevalidation of like what she's asking, and then 366 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: he'll just kind of repeat it in a different way 367 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: with the same words and be like it just it 368 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: just saying I don't see much of his own personality 369 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: or thoughts or communication and maybe that's just him. And 370 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm not knocking him. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, 371 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: but for me, I would need more. And I will 372 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: say this, like I've been in relationships kind of like 373 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: that in the past, like I also will say I 374 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: was in a relationship with somebody on my season that 375 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: was similar to that, where for the longest time, I 376 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: was like, I need more, I need more. It's kind 377 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: of my point teeth, like give me something, right. And 378 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: maybe when they were finally alone in the fantasy sweets, 379 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: she saw that and she got that from him. I'm 380 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: not shorts, you know, we weren't pretty to that, but 381 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: I would hope that that was the case. What's interesting 382 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: is I think Joe is a phenomenal man, Like I 383 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: think he's super kind, very sweet. I think that he 384 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: does have a really big heart and like could be 385 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: that amazing partner for her. But I do think that 386 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: Michelle is just a little bit more quirky and bubbly 387 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 1: and you know, has that side to her that she 388 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: likes to play off of. And I don't necessarily see 389 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: that when I watched them too together, I see more 390 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: of like the more serious, like like calm side of her, 391 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, But with the other guys, it's like a 392 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: totally different side of her, babbily infectious, And I feel 393 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: like she's not that she brings herself down, but she 394 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: just I think contains like her enthusiasm for life a bit. Yeah, 395 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: more when she's with him. And I'll tell you I 396 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: have in a relationship that's like that, and it's difficult. 397 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: It's difficult to be with someone when at the end 398 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: of the day that's you, like and not shining through 399 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: and being authentic in that regard, it's going to compromise 400 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: something in some way, shape or form, like you're not 401 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: going to be your true self and so I don't 402 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: know it's going to come out at some point. Not 403 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: saying that would have that's going to happen with the 404 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: Michelle and Joe. I'm just saying, like, you want to 405 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: be able to beat your silliest you're like most serious, 406 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, cry and you know, laugh, whatever I do, 407 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: all of the things, be all of the things with 408 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: your person totally. But one thing I do want to 409 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: ask you, because I feel like you know, we've we've 410 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: capped a couple of seasons. Now, do you think that 411 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: introverts can be successful on this show or do they 412 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: have to just be I wouldn't say just an extrovert, 413 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: but like overly silly and talkative and show emotion and 414 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: be able to like feed all aspects of your personality. No, 415 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say you have to be an extrovert to 416 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: be successful on the show. I mean exhibit A with Joe. 417 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: He is now final three of Michelle's season, and he 418 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: is very much an introvert. And like taking it back 419 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: to my time on The Badge Show, I mean the 420 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: last four girls, we were all vastly different, but Lauren 421 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: was who are ended up with, and she was I 422 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: would say an introvert. She was much more quiet, Like, yeah, 423 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: we had very loud personalities on the season that you know, 424 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: took up a lot of the screen time, but Lauren 425 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: was there till the end and she was always more quiet, 426 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: very kind, sweet, not a loud, crazy, rambunctious person. And 427 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: I mean she was very successful. So I wouldn't necessarily 428 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: say that can make or break somebody on a season. 429 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: I just think given the history, extroverts, people who are 430 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: much more loud and outspoken just typically get more airtime. 431 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: But it's all dependent upon what the lead is looking for. 432 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: Like if the lead is getting enough from somebody who 433 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: is more quiet and introverted, and they're getting their questions 434 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: answered and feeling like they can actually see a future 435 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: with them, then I mean I get it, Like I 436 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: understand I don't always like gravitate towards like the loudest, 437 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: most wild guy in the room. So same. I mean, 438 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: I definitely think like even going back to my season 439 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: on The Bachelor, like Cassie and Hannah weren't like the 440 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: loudest girls in the room either. There are much bigger personalities. 441 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: But I do think that like they can be introverts, 442 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: but depends on how you are with the person, Like 443 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, like if you're like silly and giggly and 444 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: a lot that kind of stuff, you don't have to 445 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: be some loud person. So now I think that introverts 446 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: can be successful actually well, and it's all about communication. 447 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: It's like just because you don't like somebody doesn't appreciate 448 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: being in a massive group setting and displaying all everything 449 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: for people to see, like if you're still communicating well 450 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: and who you genuinely are to the person, like again, 451 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: that's all that matters. Yeah, So yeah, I mean Joe 452 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: very and I would say this, Brandon too doesn't seem 453 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't call him an introvert, but I don't think 454 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: he's like loud, wild crazy by anything. I think he 455 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: feels comfortable when it's with Michelle, when it's just the 456 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: two of them, where he that she pulls it out 457 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: of him more. But he when he was in group 458 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: settings on the group dates, like he was nuver one 459 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: in the first couple episodes when there was many men 460 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: to really stand out a ton, right. I mean in 461 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: Nay two, he's actually really not that loud of a human. 462 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: I feel like he's kind of like always sitting there chilling, 463 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, which leads us to his 464 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: fantasy suite, absolutely chilling the whole way through. As I 465 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: was watching him, I was like, oh, buddy, they're gonna 466 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: want something from you. You've got to give something more. 467 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: You can't just keep saying you don't care. And it's 468 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: easy for you because you gotta like, you gotta feel something. 469 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: Um dig in deep here. Yeah. Yeah. So I will 470 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: say I definitely see a different type of Michelle when 471 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: she's with him, Like I feel like she's I don't know, 472 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: I feel like she's head over heels for him, to 473 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: be honest, I feel like she's extremely happy and she 474 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: feels really comfortable. She just has like a different spark 475 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: in her eye. And so I think your fantasy suit 476 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: was really cute. Oh yeah, she's a hyper heels. Yeah, 477 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: but I agree with you, like I want Nate to 478 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: kind of well, OK, so there's two parts of this. 479 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: You know, churged me. We kind of just touched on 480 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: how leading up to his date with her, in his 481 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: fantasy suit with her, he was he was just chilling. 482 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not going to think about her with 483 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: other guys. I'm not going to let that affect me, 484 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: which I understand that thinking. I totally get that you 485 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: want to zone in on your time, your relationship with 486 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: that person. You don't want any distractions, but at the 487 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: same time, you can still have feelings and it can 488 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: still for you in a way. I'm not saying you 489 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: have to like be pissed and angry and like objected to, 490 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: but something like it's not I just wanted some more 491 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: emotion from him, like I was. I will say this, 492 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: like it just seemed like he was kind of sitting back, 493 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: like smirking the entire time, like, Oh, I got this, 494 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: I got this. I'm good, which maybe he does maybe 495 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: because again, like we can all see it, she's very 496 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: drawn to him. She is very intunate, and he knows 497 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: that but too, I don't want him to think like 498 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: it's smooth feeling and he can just downplay what she's 499 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: feeling with these other guys, because she clearly had great 500 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: overnights with both Brandon and Joe before him. Yeah. But 501 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: the thing that really stuck up to me that I'm 502 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: nervous for in you know, the coming week, because we 503 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: obviously know that she keeps him till the finale, is right, 504 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: he said that he has never been in love, And 505 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: to me personally, that would be a huge red flag. 506 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying just because somebody's never been in love, 507 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: you can't be a relationship and you can't feel all 508 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: these things and like, you know, be all in and 509 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: be invested, because I truly think Nate is with Michelle. 510 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: But I also, just from experience, think that your history 511 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: and your past relationships kind of form who you're going 512 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: to be in the future and how you want to 513 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: be as a partner and how you want your partner 514 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: to be. And if he's never been in love and 515 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: hasn't had that, how does he think he's going to 516 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: get engaged and like have a lasting relationship for a lifetime. 517 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: And that's where I'm nervous for Michelle and a little 518 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: hesitant on just Nate right now. I will say that that, 519 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: and also I think what made me nervous was the 520 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: fact that she was talking about his stepdad, basically saying 521 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: that he can also put up a wall at some point, 522 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: like you said, because he hasn't experienced any of this before. 523 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: That is very It's a little scary because I don't 524 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: really find Michelle to be the person that would put 525 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: herself in a situation like that, if that's a possibility. 526 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: I think she's very much analyzes, you know, what could 527 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: go wrong, what are the positives, the negatives, you know 528 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: what I mean, and what this could mean to her, 529 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: And I think she's very self aware, and I think 530 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: that she would say, Okay, then I'm not putting myself 531 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: in the situation to get hurt. And I think that 532 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: that's definitely a possibility. And I wonder it's funny though, 533 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: because like Nate didn't even say like, oh, I don't 534 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: know why he would say that, or like he didn't 535 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: try to like rebuttal it really right. He was just 536 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: kind of like yeah and just kind of like went 537 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: along with it, And so I don't know, and she 538 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: was just asking, like being in love is one thing, 539 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: falling in love is another thing, and getting engaged is 540 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: another thing? Like which one are you ready for? And 541 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: he's like all three. I just want him to be 542 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: like Michelle, I am falling in love with you. Michelle, 543 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: I am in love with you, and like, let's freaking out, 544 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's like, I'm down for 545 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: all right, And I was like, God, Nate, just like 546 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: give me something that like makes you feel like, yeah, 547 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I don't think he would 548 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: hurt her, but I just don't know well, And I 549 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: have to trust Michelle just knowing her. She has such 550 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: a good heads shoulders. She's very illogical, she's very grounded, 551 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: even though you know, she's the lead of this show, 552 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: so I have to trust her. But I just, you know, 553 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: And it's easy for me to say now going through 554 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: it and being a viewer, like it's easy for all 555 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: of us to pick apart every little thing, you know, 556 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to downplay 557 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: their relationship because I think what they have is truly beautiful. 558 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: I think that they both really are falling and do 559 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: love each other. I just I would be remiss to 560 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: not bring that part up, because even with Matt James 561 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: when he was the Bachelor, it was the same thing. 562 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: I remember him specifically saying when he was the lead, 563 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: he's never really been in love, and yes he's been 564 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: in relationships, but he's never felt that real, true lasting love, 565 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: hence why he became the Bachelor. But you know, I 566 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: couldn't call him out on that season and not say 567 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: something about this, And I think, I think my hold 568 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: up is, you know, you can not be in you 569 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: could have never been in love, and now you can 570 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: be in love with this woman. But as Michelle said, 571 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: an engagement is a totally differentferent thing, and that's where 572 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: and maybe I'm just basing it upon my own experience 573 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: and history and kind of knowing each relationship really shapes 574 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: you to who you are and who you want to 575 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: be and who you need in a partner, and you 576 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: learn that just through life, through experience, through different relationships, 577 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: through being in love and getting heartbroken. And if he's 578 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: never experienced those things, it's hard for me to see 579 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: the extreme of him getting engaged at the end of 580 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: this and like actually forming this relationship that will lead 581 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: to marriage. And I'm sure children down the line in 582 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: a future and anniversaries and you know, to have it 583 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: be lasting. I mean, look, I will say this, I 584 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: feel like maybe this could be like based off of like, 585 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, him growing up and not saying I love you, 586 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: and his family and his household, Like maybe he doesn't 587 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: know how to express his feelings as much as like 588 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: we may be able to, or like we would want 589 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,239 Speaker 1: him to. But I do feel like there is like 590 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: some type of like underlying like solid connection there, and 591 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: like I think that's undeniable, Like you can definitely see that. 592 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: I just want Nate too. I don't know, really be 593 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: able to be honest with Michelle and say like, look, 594 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm still learning, I might fuck up, but like I'm 595 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: willing to do this with you, especially because you haven't 596 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: been in love before. And I think that that's like 597 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: what my concern would be. But I feel like if 598 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: there's anything going to be anybody to actually challenge him 599 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: and really want the most im him and it's going 600 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: to push him to be the better person, it's going 601 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: to be Michelle. I mean, she's a phenomenal person and 602 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: you can see the way that she does it with 603 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: such grace and patience and kindness, and she really does 604 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: try to bring out the bust and every single man. 605 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: I think that she's going to be a phenomenal partner 606 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: to him if they end up together. Yeah, and just knowing, 607 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: I mean we both know because we've lived through it, 608 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: knowing how much things can change when the cameras aren't around. 609 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: And I'm sure she asked way more questions than we 610 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: will ever be abant to know. And again going back 611 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: to how I trust her and her judgment, I just, 612 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, place that in her, and that she did 613 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: get there that night, And there's so many moments that 614 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: we will never see that should stay between them, those 615 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: two that should say between those too, you know, to 616 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: get to the next I mean, well I will say 617 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: this next week, But then what could potentially be from 618 00:33:54,160 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: there on out? Which is the engagement? Are you surprised me? 619 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: Because no, taking it to the end, you were at 620 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: the Row ceremony, Are you surprised by two things? Are 621 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: you surprised that Brandon pulled Michelle that night and that 622 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: she ended up sending Joe home? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, 623 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: Because again we didn't really watch the dates as they 624 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: were going on, and so we would check in with 625 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: her randomly, and I'm sorry, but Joe has always been 626 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: like a person that was on Michelle's radar, and Brandon 627 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: kind of, as you guys have seen, like kind of 628 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: came out of nowhere and like really surprised her. I 629 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: was so shocked when Brandon took her to talk because 630 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: at that point, like we're like standing in the wings, 631 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: we're like ready to like go out there and like, 632 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: so what we gotta say, and you kind of like 633 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: forget that things might not go as planned, and when 634 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: he grabbed her, it's like, Okay, this could go one 635 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: of two ways. He's leaving or he's gonna, I don't know, 636 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: proposed her right there. I don't know. There's a million 637 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: things actually not two ways. There's a million things that 638 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: could happen in this situation, and so we were just 639 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: very concerned for her, and so we actually talked to 640 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: her right after Brandon had spoken to her, but they 641 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: didn't air that, and she was just really shaken up 642 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: by it, to be honest, because she was like that 643 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: conversation right there just made me more confused than anything. 644 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: And like I was already really confused before coming into this, 645 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: and I have to say that it just validated that 646 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: even though Brandon might be like kind of young, like, 647 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: it's a very special bonce that they have and that 648 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: he is going to be there for her at the 649 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: end of the day, no matter what. And I think 650 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: that that's really the reassurance she needed. And I definitely 651 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: think you had a part in Brandon's daying that night. 652 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: I definitely think it did. I mean obviously the night 653 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: do because I'm telling you, like, there's she even said 654 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 1: to Joe on their fantasy suite, like like I cook 655 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: breakfast next time and he's like, so there's going to 656 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: be another morning and she's like, well yeah, like and 657 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: she even said I could see Joe in my soulmate, 658 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: didn't she say that? That is a good point. Yes, 659 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: you are not wrong. I think, oh this is after 660 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: Brandon's fantasy sweet date because I was I was thinking 661 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: about that about how brand it was very confusing when 662 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: he pulled her because he didn't really have anything like 663 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: I thought he was going to go to her and like, oh, well, 664 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 1: Nate was acting like this this week or whatever. He 665 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: really just will support him of like you're my best friend, 666 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm here for you no matter what. Great sentiment. It 667 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: just seemed that weird timing to me. So I'm thinking 668 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: about that. I'm like, did that have a hand in 669 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: her ultimately sending Joe home then just going back. Usually, 670 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: I know, it's always very confusing, and it's never easy 671 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: going into those royal ceremonies, especially when it's dwindling down, 672 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: to have to send anyone home. But usually you have 673 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: an idea, like, you know, that day, here's where my 674 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: heart is, Here's what I'm feeling, Here's who has to leave. Yeah, 675 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 1: so I can't imagine his, you know, five minute conversation, 676 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 1: Brandon's five minute conversation with her really swaying her that much, 677 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: because if she went that day knowing, oh, it's going 678 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 1: to be Joe and Nate, she would have kept Joe. 679 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it would have changed anything. So that's 680 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: why I think it was still going to be Brandon 681 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: and Nate. But it just after he did it, I 682 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, well this shit really solidifies Joe going 683 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: home now, because you can't send Brandon home. After he 684 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: said that, he's so mad. I'm not gonna lie. I 685 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: think Nate was very sure it always gonna rose, but 686 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: I do have to say it's always been between Brandon out. 687 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: I think she even said, like, this is the toughest 688 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,439 Speaker 1: decision in my stomach, isn't not like I don't even 689 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm doing? And so you know, it's like 690 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: in that situation, you're like, God, give me a sign, 691 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: give me a sign that this is the person, or 692 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: give me a sign that like I'm making a decision, 693 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: or give me a sign that h pick. Like I think, 694 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: like if Ira Michelle in that situation and I was 695 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: truthfully on the bench with both of them, I would 696 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: have considered that my sign and I probably would have 697 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: sent Joe home and taken Brandon well. And it's I mean, 698 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: you kind of know the ins and the outs of 699 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: the show. It's it's hard to justify. I mean because 700 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: I think she felt very strongly for both Brandon and Joe. 701 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: But it's hard to justify sending someone like Brandon home, 702 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: who has been very explicit in how he feels constantly, 703 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: has been so open, very communicative, versus Joe, who you 704 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: don't quite get that much. It's hard to just to 705 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: feel back the layers keeping that relationship unless you can 706 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: really argue the why behind it. Because we know the backlash, 707 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: and we know what is in headlines each week, and 708 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: we know what people are saying on social media and 709 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: all of that. Like it's hard. It would be hard 710 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: unless you're so gung ho about somebody like Joe to 711 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: keep him. Yeah, I don't know, So I don't know. 712 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's my two sense. I don't know. I 713 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: feel like that confirmation from Brandon really was just kind 714 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: of like, that's what I'm looking for. It's going to 715 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: be interesting next week because and Brandon are so different 716 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: that and she feels I mean, she's told both of 717 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: them now that she's falling in love with them, so 718 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: it's not like there's one where she's only said to 719 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 1: one and the other one is kind of like yeah, yeah, 720 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: it's not where it's like, oh, a done deal. We 721 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: already know it's going to be someone like she is. 722 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: She's been very vocal in feelings for both of these men, 723 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: So I have no idea what the hell is going 724 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: to happen. It's but also to her family's going to 725 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 1: be coming. Brandon's already met the family, Neates never met 726 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: the family. It'll be interesting to see how her family 727 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: meet receives Nate after meeting Brandon no twice. It's just right. 728 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: I am in for a treat. I know you know 729 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: what goes down. Do not tell me anything. I'm gonna 730 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: be sitting on the edge of my seat. I think 731 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,919 Speaker 1: I'm so nervous. I don't know why I'm nervous right now. Look, 732 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: I'm trying to put on a PoCA face right now. 733 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm not giving anything away, but I'm going to tell 734 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: you right now, buckle. I feel like people say this 735 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: every season, and I'm like, what more going to happen? Like, 736 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: but don't you feel happen? Isn't your jaw on the 737 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: floor every time? Though, Like, yeah, something always happens to you, Like, wait, 738 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,240 Speaker 1: what just happened? I feel like that happened with Claire's season, 739 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: then my season, Katie's season. Yeah, Like it just happens continuously, 740 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: and like it's never something you could have ever imagined. 741 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: So this is like Grey's Anatomy where every week I'm like, 742 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: they can't top last week's episodes, they can't top last season, 743 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: and then they somehow do and I will say, we 744 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: don't give enough props to everyone behind the scenes, So 745 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: kudos to you all. I am very much looking forward 746 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: to next week. I just again, I love Michelle. I 747 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: know you do. We respect the hell out of that woman, 748 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: and I just want her to find love and just 749 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 1: find her life partner who really I think just matches 750 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: her and builds her up and she can do the same. 751 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 1: So I can't wait to see what goes down. Michelle. 752 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: You know where I always room for you. You're almost 753 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: to the end to be the fun part. I know 754 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: it sucks to be in hiding and have to keep 755 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: everything secret, So I'm just I'm ready for her to 756 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: just be able to shout it from the rooftops. Wowa, 757 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 1: Can I do one thing? Can I just say some 758 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: positive things about me? Because I feel it just shit 759 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: talking him the whole time. I mean, we had him 760 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: on her first episode this season, and I liked him. 761 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: He I love Nate's personality. He was very charismatic. And 762 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: I think also to just talking to most of the 763 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: men each week and having the guests on, they all 764 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: have nothing but good things to also say about Nate. 765 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: So I will say, like I don't want to rag 766 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: on him and just say, because you've never been in love, 767 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: you can't do this, Like I'm not saying that absolutely 768 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: not absolutely no. I'm sure he's a great guy. And 769 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: if our guy Rodney is best friends with Nate, he 770 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: has to be a good friend. And I yeah, absolutely no, 771 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: he's definitely a good guy, and I feel like, um, 772 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: I do really appreciate that he keeps trying to dig 773 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: in deep and trying to be open and vulnerable with Michelle. 774 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: And I think that again, Michelle is such an intelligent 775 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: individual that she would not be letting some guy that's 776 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: like giving her the bare minimum being her top three guys. 777 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: It's just not actually possible. And he makes her baby happy. 778 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:56,879 Speaker 1: That's all that matters. All that matters, all right, Well, yeah, 779 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: stay tuned for next week, of course, after the final 780 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: ros is happening, Tsha. Can't wait to see you and 781 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: Caitlin crush it once again, Tisha, that was so much fun. 782 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: I do love having guests, but I also do love 783 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 1: having ever a few episodes where it's just us, where 784 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 1: we can hit chat, spill the tea out. Yeah, talk 785 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: about things that I'm sure people have been dying to 786 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: know in fantasy sweets. I mean, I know everybody thinks 787 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: it's like some knotty things that happen back there, but 788 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, you learn a lot about 789 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: these people behind closed doors, and there's a lot more 790 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,760 Speaker 1: to it. We're trying to look for engagements here people. 791 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 1: It's game changing. It is such a game changing week. 792 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, especially if you're coming from meeting the families. 793 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: It's the most important time, truly, the most important time 794 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: that you can spend with somebody. So there we have it. 795 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: I can't believe Michelle crushed. Michelle banged out the fantasy 796 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: sweet Home, my god, and today and now we are 797 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: on to a live finale next week. Oh my god, 798 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: We're done with this thing and very find out how 799 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: her journey ends. Thank you everyone for listening. Thank you Tatia. 800 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to have you on and chat. 801 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: I love her girl chats and Boucher Happy Hour listeners, 802 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: thank you for tuning in today. 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