WEBVTT - Are We Going to War?

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<v Speaker 1>Native lay Pot is a production of iHeart Radio in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with Reason Choice Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome, Welcome home, y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>This is episode eighty four, Good Grief eighty four of

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<v Speaker 4>Native Lampie, where we give it to you straight, no

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<v Speaker 4>chase there and get into all things politics with a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of culture. I am your host, Tiffany Cross

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<v Speaker 4>along with my fellow co host, going with the host,

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<v Speaker 4>Angela Right, and Andrew Gillham.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up, y'all like this?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host Tiffany and my that's day.

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<v Speaker 5>That's day. It'll be your time next week. Hosts. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 5>we all all are the hop I'm the main host,

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<v Speaker 5>and here's my co host, y'all. If y'all know the joke, y'all,

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<v Speaker 5>not a joke.

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew, where are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting comfortable in somebody's chair inside there? Actually, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at a funeral convention. We are supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>on our way. I called my best friend the other

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<v Speaker 1>day and when was the last time we took a

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<v Speaker 1>road trip. We got a head down to West Palm

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<v Speaker 1>Beach for these border governor's meeting where they're considering the

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<v Speaker 1>next President and family, along with two other universities, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course he had the answer call about fort this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>go get a pick up a body. That body then

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<v Speaker 1>delayed our departure, which got us a little late on

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<v Speaker 1>the road to South Florida. So we made a pit

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<v Speaker 1>stop in Central Florida, which is where I am right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're still.

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<v Speaker 6>Trying to make a body in the room with you know, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Body is with the people who you know gonna dress

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<v Speaker 1>the body.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I wasn't expecting that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I know, But guess what, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're forty pushing fifty roadches just don't.

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<v Speaker 7>They don't thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me go get this body real, No, I gotta

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<v Speaker 5>go to the bathroom. You guys, I'm gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 5>someth I'm gonna get so much trouble with Poppa Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you bring a bag?

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<v Speaker 5>You guys? My dad I can't tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's gotta.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell us something now because he brought it up.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys. You know you know I love the just Waters.

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<v Speaker 5>You always got to shopping by black. I love just Waters.

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<v Speaker 5>My dad saves the containers because sometimes when he takes

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<v Speaker 5>his blood pressure of medicine. He's gotta be you can't

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<v Speaker 5>see through this, so please make sure you throw him out.

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<v Speaker 5>Man knows we didn't have that.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys the show get so much. I know because

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to get get a whooping. Anybody to get so.

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<v Speaker 5>Much trouble tip, Oh my god, I just.

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<v Speaker 4>Get a whooping live on hair elementary. People's parents will

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<v Speaker 4>come up to the school. Yeah this was abuse and trouble,

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<v Speaker 4>but you would see them like get me in front

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<v Speaker 4>of the class.

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<v Speaker 5>What happened next week, which was traumatizing. He woke me

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<v Speaker 5>on Christmas when I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was if he did Angelo's parents spoil her, her dad

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<v Speaker 4>especially so if he did, believe, don't feel bad she

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<v Speaker 4>was asking for it.

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<v Speaker 5>For Christmas.

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<v Speaker 7>Day.

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<v Speaker 5>That was the first and last one. But he cried

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<v Speaker 5>harder than I did so.

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<v Speaker 1>This week because I showed up late to pick him

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<v Speaker 1>up Jackson, my oldest from his uh speeding agility camp.

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<v Speaker 1>I got there probably twenty minutes late. He got in

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<v Speaker 1>the carture. I was I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm literally ghost the body in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>Girls shut up, but no, no, I get him in

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<v Speaker 1>the com like man how was the speeding agility camp?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like fine, fine, I said, Jackson, are you

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<v Speaker 1>are you mad with me? I'm mad with you, I said, Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry I was late. I'm so sorry I

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<v Speaker 1>was late. I was trying not to do that again.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, keV was in the backseat like this the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time, and then he started crying. I felt really bad,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was like, did you think I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>leave you here?

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<v Speaker 3>That is terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Eleven year olds. Eleven year olds.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell you that next time, I'm gonna come get in

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<v Speaker 5>myself because I don't know what you are doing. Basically,

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<v Speaker 5>then you know that I'm gonna come through. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>run right to Chaillhasse and give my nephew so you

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<v Speaker 5>don't leave them.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I missed the show. So this is a very

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<v Speaker 4>belated Happy Father's Day to you, Andrew. And I love

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<v Speaker 4>the stories that you share about being such a great father,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's just an example that black dads matter. So

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<v Speaker 4>shout out to all the fathers, no matter what the

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<v Speaker 4>special Shout out to our brothers, our black fathers out

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<v Speaker 4>there raising wonderful black men and black black children. Say

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<v Speaker 4>black children, I don't want to over adult ride. It's

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<v Speaker 4>our children, black boys and black girls.

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<v Speaker 1>God knows. So does it quicker than we're ready?

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<v Speaker 4>Right exactly, Listen, we're about to get in the show.

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<v Speaker 4>But I know that we have a very loyal audience

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<v Speaker 4>out there. So for all the people, it seems like

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<v Speaker 4>lately I've been meeting so many people who stop me

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<v Speaker 4>and say I love Native Land. So I want to

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<v Speaker 4>thank you guys for showing us love in the streets

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<v Speaker 4>and would love for you all, well, thank you. We

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<v Speaker 4>would love for you all to spread the word. Want

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<v Speaker 4>to make sure that you are telling your friends to

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<v Speaker 4>tune in, tell your friends to subscribe, friends and family,

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<v Speaker 4>leave us a rating, just tell people about Native Land.

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<v Speaker 4>Because the more that y'all tune in and the more

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<v Speaker 4>y'all talk about us, the more work that we can do.

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<v Speaker 4>And I want to send a special shout out and

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<v Speaker 4>thank you to all of you who send in your

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<v Speaker 4>viewer questions. And just a real quick point of clarity,

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<v Speaker 4>we consider y'all family. So if we make some offhanded

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<v Speaker 4>comment or we don't agree, it is all in love.

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<v Speaker 4>If we say something that y'all don't agree with, if

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<v Speaker 4>we respond to a question that you didn't like the

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<v Speaker 4>way we respond to send in another video like we

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<v Speaker 4>want this to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be a video.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>We are never saying anything to intentionally put somebody down,

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<v Speaker 4>So if that's ever been taken that way, I definitely

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<v Speaker 4>want to apologize. We love having conversation with you all

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<v Speaker 4>in person and on video. So thank you guys for

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<v Speaker 4>all of that. All right, Angel Andrew, what y'all got today?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I have a complaint. My complaint is Tiffany is

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<v Speaker 5>going to be in Baltimore with our people, Andrew, and

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<v Speaker 5>you're not here because you decided to take a road

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<v Speaker 5>trip and I just have beef.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a I ain't not here playing in the streets.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you've kind of played in this mission. Well okay,

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<v Speaker 5>so then maybe my beef is not with you, it's

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<v Speaker 5>with fam you, So I will say.

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<v Speaker 1>That and Ron DeSantis and his Republican sycophants. Yes, Sanda,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, take everybody out, y'all. It's not a joke.

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<v Speaker 5>It's true, it's not a joke. I'm very upset. I

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<v Speaker 5>want my brother to be here with us. We are

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<v Speaker 5>doing the State of the People National Assembly in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people of ours v Pede I'm starting

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<v Speaker 5>to wonder if they're coming for that free fish fry.

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<v Speaker 5>We're doing our Juneteenth tomorrow, but we have our people

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<v Speaker 5>coming through and be here, so I'm tight about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tight and big and big, big, huge ups to you, Angela, who,

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<v Speaker 1>through your force of nature, have just made possible what

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<v Speaker 1>I think many thought was impossible.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you' not just me, but thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I.

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<v Speaker 4>Have something to say about that, but Andrew, before I

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<v Speaker 4>get to it, tell us what you got.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, y'all, I was gonna dive in a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>to what's happening down here in Florida because I know

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<v Speaker 1>that it reverberates, not because it spam you, but because

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<v Speaker 1>these circumstances where our legacy presidents at our legacy HBCUs

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<v Speaker 1>are coming up for retirement, are transitioning on and some

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<v Speaker 1>of them are being forced on by the politics of

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<v Speaker 1>the day. And it's no different here in Florida, no

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<v Speaker 1>different than what we're seeing in Tennessee in another places.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna switch it up real quick, and Angela

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<v Speaker 1>and Tiff and just say this weekend, regardless of all

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<v Speaker 1>of the intimidation that the Trump administration was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>scare people in the staying home will kill. We had

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<v Speaker 1>a share from Florida State, we will kill y'all if

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<v Speaker 1>you come out here in protests. Right, people showed up

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<v Speaker 1>all over this country. Y'all gave me goose bumps that

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, bring it, we're here. There are no

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<v Speaker 1>kings on this land.

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<v Speaker 4>We have two amazing guests joining us. Cornell Belcher is

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<v Speaker 4>a social scientist poster. He was the poster for both

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<v Speaker 4>of Obama's elections in two thousand and eight and twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 4>and he runs a company, a polling company called Brilliant

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<v Speaker 4>Brilliant Corners, and he was also one of Andrew's posters,

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<v Speaker 4>which I did not even realize. And he will He

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<v Speaker 4>will be joined by another guest who I think Lauren

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<v Speaker 4>r Ep put on our radar, and then Angela had

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<v Speaker 4>the idea to have them both join us.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to tell us about the other guests, Angela, yes, TIV.

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<v Speaker 5>We're really excited. I know Cornell Belcher better just like you.

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<v Speaker 5>But Gabrielle White will also join us. They are coming

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<v Speaker 5>from the Highland Project and they conducted a poll of

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<v Speaker 5>black women voters in America this past spring, so we're

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<v Speaker 5>thrilled to have them and to talk about what they

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<v Speaker 5>found out.

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<v Speaker 4>What I want to talk about is a scary topic,

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<v Speaker 4>quite frankly, and that is that we appear to be

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<v Speaker 4>on the precipice of a potential nuclear war. Nations with

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<v Speaker 4>nuclear power are at odds right now. Israel is a

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<v Speaker 4>nuclear power. They don't like to acknowledge it, but they are.

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<v Speaker 4>The United States is a nuclear power. We've been pulled

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<v Speaker 4>into a war with Iran, who is a potential nuclear power.

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<v Speaker 4>So I want to explore that. But before we get

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<v Speaker 4>into the show, I wanted to pick back up on

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<v Speaker 4>what Angela said about the tour, on what you said, Andrew,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've been having trouble getting my words together trying

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<v Speaker 4>to say what I want to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, can you believe it?

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<v Speaker 4>But that's okay cause somebody else, somebody else said it

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<v Speaker 4>better than I could.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's hear from her.

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<v Speaker 5>What you are doing with this tour, what the leaders

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<v Speaker 5>here have been doing with this tour.

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<v Speaker 8>Is absolutely about giving.

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<v Speaker 4>Life to those concepts that we were raised with, including

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<v Speaker 4>self determination, the importance of understanding one's power, and empowering

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<v Speaker 4>community at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>So I congratulate you in front of all the friends.

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<v Speaker 5>And to everybody, you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm mad because the only video I could get my

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<v Speaker 4>hands on the beginning was cut off. But what Madame

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<v Speaker 4>Vice President Kamala Harry said at the beginning of that

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<v Speaker 4>video is I want to this is her quote directly,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to shout out Angela Rye and then you

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<v Speaker 4>hear the rest of the video. But what she said

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<v Speaker 4>was that's my sister right there, and then she started

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<v Speaker 4>talking about the importance of the tour. So it was

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<v Speaker 4>great being in LA because we got to see Madam

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<v Speaker 4>Vice President and she got to address the community. But

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<v Speaker 4>I just thought it was important to play that clip

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<v Speaker 4>one to just I know it's a team of people.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been on emails with the people they reach out

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<v Speaker 4>to me, so I know it's more people than Angela.

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<v Speaker 4>But Angela, I know that this torment a lot to

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<v Speaker 4>you when you put in a lot of work. And

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<v Speaker 4>I also thought it is important for our viewers to

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<v Speaker 4>hear that because I of course address Madame Vice President

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<v Speaker 4>as Madame Vice President. Sometimes I will say Kamala, but

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<v Speaker 4>that is because there's a relationship there, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>you all to hear that from her because Angela her sister.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you hear her say Kamala is not an

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<v Speaker 4>act of disrespect. It's because they know each other and

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<v Speaker 4>to show that movements start from the bottom up and

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<v Speaker 4>they can rise and reach people all over. So no

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<v Speaker 4>matter where you are in your journey, maybe you weren't

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<v Speaker 4>a part of the State of the People tour, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>you're doing amazing work in your own community. I just

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<v Speaker 4>commend all the leaders for all the work that you're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Angela is very resistant to praise and compliments. Even at

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<v Speaker 4>the agenda, when the Vice President tried to thank her,

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<v Speaker 4>she immediately deflected and started talking about other people. So

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, Nick, don't tell her to sound I'm

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<v Speaker 4>playing because I wanted you to just get your flowers.

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<v Speaker 4>As we convene and kick off the National convening in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 4>We will miss you, brother Andrew, but like you are

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<v Speaker 4>on your own mission, that's very important work to you.

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<v Speaker 4>So I commend you as well, and I hope this

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<v Speaker 4>inspires people. You know, we've all been on our own

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<v Speaker 4>journeys and we've been very unfiltered about that with you,

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<v Speaker 4>all our audience, who we care so much for so,

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<v Speaker 4>just congratulations Angela as the national convening is about to commence.

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<v Speaker 4>In any words, what's next after this tour?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, the question it's funny because you know you finished

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<v Speaker 5>one chapter and you know that the story is not written.

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<v Speaker 5>Because even as we come to Baltimore now, I wish

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<v Speaker 5>the sound that I should have said when you asked

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<v Speaker 5>me early if I hadn't and I didn't. There was

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<v Speaker 5>an altercation in Baltimore streets with law enforcement just over

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<v Speaker 5>the last couple of days and somebody was killed. And

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<v Speaker 5>so the thing that we keep seeing in every city

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<v Speaker 5>that we're in is that we're supposed to be there,

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<v Speaker 5>that it is divine timing, that there's a place for

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<v Speaker 5>our people to gather, to organize, to coalesce, to collaborate.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm so thankful because it really when I tell y'all,

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<v Speaker 5>if I need to know, like, oh, how big does

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<v Speaker 5>this sign need to be? Who can do the artwork,

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<v Speaker 5>who can up data website, who can speak on a

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<v Speaker 5>panel about veterans in the role of the military right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Who can do tabletop exercises so we know what happens

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<v Speaker 5>if the water supply is cut off or our cell

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<v Speaker 5>phone towers are down. Those are all things I cannot do,

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<v Speaker 5>so that means there are people that are doing them.

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<v Speaker 5>What I'm grateful for is the ignorant courage that says

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<v Speaker 5>that we can pull all of this off with no

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<v Speaker 5>real plan in time. And I'm very thanking for the

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<v Speaker 5>people who went along for that ride by faith, took

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<v Speaker 5>one step in front of the other, and win by faith.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm really really grateful. I love that tip brought

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<v Speaker 5>up our mad and Vice President because it is a

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<v Speaker 5>reminder that even with relationship, especially in an era where

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<v Speaker 5>we're so blatantly disrespected, that respects to start at home.

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<v Speaker 5>So I do appreciate that nudge always and shout out

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<v Speaker 5>to our sister, the MVP, because I don't know what

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<v Speaker 5>these other people is doing.

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<v Speaker 4>But also Angela, I mean, we have criticism for her

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<v Speaker 4>as well, but I thought the audience should know that, like, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>if we say we didn't like what Kamala did when

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<v Speaker 4>this happened, none of that is intended disrespect where it's

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<v Speaker 4>our right for now, we have that right in this

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<v Speaker 4>country and it's our responsibility to question our leaders, but

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<v Speaker 4>it is all done from a place of love. Just

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<v Speaker 4>like when y'all criticize us. That's why I can receive

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<v Speaker 4>it because it comes from a place of love.

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<v Speaker 5>We have those conversations with her directly. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's like, oh, I disagree with this. Have you thought

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<v Speaker 5>about this approach? You know? So I definitely know that

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<v Speaker 5>I wish that we had a clip like this when

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<v Speaker 5>we first started to show, because people really didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember there was somebody I remember who, but somebody

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<v Speaker 5>posted a clip saying that we were mad because we

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<v Speaker 5>didn't get invited to the Christmas party all. And the

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<v Speaker 5>truth of it was, we opted not to go as

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<v Speaker 5>a collective of our group of girlfriends opted not to

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<v Speaker 5>go as a collective to stand in solidarity with the

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<v Speaker 5>Palestinian people. So anyway, we love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that you raised so bravely and

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<v Speaker 1>consistently for us is this sort of what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you just get started? And Angela, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to say you exhibited live and in real time

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<v Speaker 1>that you just have to take a step. You just

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<v Speaker 1>have to take a step and you never know what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of squad is lined up behind you. Maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>to do all the things you want every better do,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're there to do something, They're there to plug in.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to just underscore that mark that

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<v Speaker 1>it took it takes us step do something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and people and plenty of people are out there

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<v Speaker 4>doing something and not everybody's in it. You know, when

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<v Speaker 4>I hear people have aspirations, I have to remind them.

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<v Speaker 4>Angela never got into this game to be on TV

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<v Speaker 4>to get a bunch of IG followers. You know, Ala

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<v Speaker 4>was a staffer on the Hill. People used to tell

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<v Speaker 4>me that about Jamal Simmons, like I want to be

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<v Speaker 4>like Jamal Simmons years ago, and Jamal Simmons didn't get

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<v Speaker 4>in this game for that. You know, Jamal Simmons worked

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<v Speaker 4>on about a thousand who gives a craft campaigns across

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<v Speaker 4>the like places you never heard of.

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<v Speaker 3>You would work on that.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you are honored, when you honor the work

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<v Speaker 4>uh and are not into hashtag celebrity and hashtag activism,

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<v Speaker 4>that's where our collective focus should be. So congratulations. I

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<v Speaker 4>will see you all in Baltimore this week. We're looking

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<v Speaker 4>forward to it and a lot of our friends. They're

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<v Speaker 4>flying in from all over the country, so it should

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<v Speaker 4>be a good time and definitely want to honor the

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<v Speaker 4>life that was lost in the streets of Baltimore and

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<v Speaker 4>we were made. This is a good example. We were

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<v Speaker 4>being lighthearted about the body that is an Injrew's room

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<v Speaker 4>right now, but I do want to honor that that

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<v Speaker 4>person lost the life and give with me.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a city, a couple of cities.

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<v Speaker 5>Though okay, already dropped the body.

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<v Speaker 4>Of Listen, y'all a cycle of life.

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<v Speaker 1>Real quick, though. I just think I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>let this moment pass without Also, you said something tip

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<v Speaker 1>when you said this whole hashtag celebrity thing. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten so much frustration with so many different quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>elected leaders, well elected quote leaders who think because they

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<v Speaker 1>put a post on their social that in some way

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<v Speaker 1>how that means they moves the earth. Then I'm knocking

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<v Speaker 1>on doors not bringing nobody in, and they're afraid of

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<v Speaker 1>their own shadow. I just want to thank those folks

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<v Speaker 1>like Keith that listen and again our sorrows go out

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<v Speaker 1>to the families impacted in Minnesota by the rationing up

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<v Speaker 1>of this rhetoric, but for getting out there saying what

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be said. And we have to stop cowering.

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<v Speaker 1>I have more people asking me, well, Andrew, if you

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<v Speaker 1>know this board is gonna choose the candidate we don't want,

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<v Speaker 1>when do we start to just sort of bring it together,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bring her in? I said, can we at

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<v Speaker 1>least follow through the whole protest? I demand say, not

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<v Speaker 1>being made? Why are it is not the obligation of

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<v Speaker 1>those who are being trampled upon to then go and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you hurt me and you didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>kick me like you did, but are we gonna be okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to make sure all this no. So

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<v Speaker 1>so if she selected president at these other institutions, if

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<v Speaker 1>the leader that you don't want to select, it, the

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<v Speaker 1>onus is on them to help bring that divide. I

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<v Speaker 1>just the politeness the whole. You know, I'm courageous because

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<v Speaker 1>I sent a tweet, but you're not doing anything in

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<v Speaker 1>follow up y'all times. If you haven't noticed, it's quitting

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<v Speaker 1>time for all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that might be a good mini pod.

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<v Speaker 4>The leadership styles, you know, because they're different leadership styles

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<v Speaker 4>and not everybody needs to lead all the time. Do

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<v Speaker 4>you have what it takes to lead, but also do

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<v Speaker 4>you have what it takes to follow? And that is

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<v Speaker 4>something can do. You have that ego chech that you

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<v Speaker 4>need to follow. So maybe we'll get into that on

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<v Speaker 4>the mini pod. And just so our viewers know, you

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<v Speaker 4>referenced Keith Ellison. He was, of course, a former member

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<v Speaker 4>of the Congressional Black Caucus and he is now the

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<v Speaker 4>Attorney General of Minnesota. And as you all know, we

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<v Speaker 4>had political violence. Sadly, I don't think it'd be the

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<v Speaker 4>last that we'll see. We had political violence with the

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<v Speaker 4>loss of the former House speaker state House speaker in

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<v Speaker 4>Minnesota and her husband and another Democratic elected official and

0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.360
<v Speaker 4>his wife. They were shot but they both survived.

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<v Speaker 3>Still fourteen times.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, don't go anywhere, because on the other side of

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<v Speaker 4>this break, you guys, we look like we are on

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<v Speaker 4>the precipice of a potential nuclear war. We're going to

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<v Speaker 4>get into that.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll see you on the other side.

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<v Speaker 4>So, speaking of violence, I want to talk, ever so

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<v Speaker 4>briefly about this war that it seems like the United

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<v Speaker 4>States is itching to get in Congress is I have

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<v Speaker 4>to say, Congress is trying to stop this because the

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<v Speaker 4>United States Constitution grants the right to declare war to Congress,

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<v Speaker 4>not to presidents. However, the president is the commander in chief,

0:20:55.720 --> 0:21:00.359
<v Speaker 4>so he can command that troops take action. And so

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<v Speaker 4>that's why certain we've been at war quote unquote, but

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<v Speaker 4>it has not been an acknowledged war for the history books,

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<v Speaker 4>and because Congress didn't declare it. I'm really nervous about this.

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<v Speaker 3>I am.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really nervous about this. Just so, just so folks know,

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<v Speaker 4>and Andrew, I'm depending on you to correct me if

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<v Speaker 4>I say something wrong here. But this is my understanding

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<v Speaker 4>of what's happening Israel, as you all may have recalled,

0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:33.080
<v Speaker 4>proactively drop bombs on Iran. They claim this was to

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<v Speaker 4>stop them from being able to enrich uranium, basically from

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<v Speaker 4>being able to make a nuclear weapon. And this is

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<v Speaker 4>happening at the same time that Trump is in conversations

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<v Speaker 4>with Iran for a new Iran nuclear deal, which I

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<v Speaker 4>surmise I can almost guarantee was not going to be

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<v Speaker 4>that different from the nuclear deal that Obama had with

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<v Speaker 4>the Iranians, which they ship on the entire time. After that,

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<v Speaker 4>Net and Yaho felt emboldened. And of course Iran is attacked,

0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:07.200
<v Speaker 4>and so Net Yahoo is like that little shit talking

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:10.720
<v Speaker 4>person that loves to do a lot of talking but

0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:12.679
<v Speaker 4>throws a stone and hides his hand, and then he

0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:14.800
<v Speaker 4>comes to America like, let's go get him, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is.

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<v Speaker 4>Where we are right now. And that makes me incredibly

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<v Speaker 4>nervous for a few reasons. I was at CNN at

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<v Speaker 4>the time during the build up to the Iraq War,

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<v Speaker 4>and this has very striking similarities. That was allegedly to

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<v Speaker 4>stop Iraq from developing a nuclear weapon, but the background

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:37.520
<v Speaker 4>ambition was regime changed, and we remember exactly how that

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.440
<v Speaker 4>turned out. It was a bloody quagmire that cost us

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<v Speaker 4>tens of thousands of lives, changed generations, was awful. This

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<v Speaker 4>is on the heels of nine to eleven. So I

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<v Speaker 4>guess I'm just concerned now of what this takes. The

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<v Speaker 4>IEA is the International Atomic Energy Agency, and so they've

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<v Speaker 4>said that Iran has enriched their uranium. See it needs

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<v Speaker 4>to be a ninety percent to create a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 4>Where this facility is that they're trying to bomb is

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<v Speaker 4>buried so deep in a mountain like like Wakanda vibranium.

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<v Speaker 4>It is deep, deep, deep deep levels. Israel cannot get

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<v Speaker 4>to that mountain and they are going to try to

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Speaker 4>keep bombing. And now basically they have their hands out

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:22.160
<v Speaker 4>saying America, now we have to go fight this war.

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<v Speaker 4>I just got a problem with this net in y'ahoo

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<v Speaker 4>is a war criminal. This man has to be stopped,

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<v Speaker 4>like he cannot keep doing this shit, and then looking

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 4>at us saying okay, now y'all come get involved. Y'all

0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 4>send money, y'all send lives because now Iran first of

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<v Speaker 4>all months ago, Iran said the United States is not

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<v Speaker 4>our enemy, and we don't know why we're their enemy.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't hind on beef with you all. Now Iran

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<v Speaker 4>is saying knock if you buck. You keep tweeting all

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 4>these things. Guess what We're not like other nations. We

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 4>will not back down. That is a terrifying thing. Most

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.159
<v Speaker 4>of the people in Iran do not support the regime.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you have a regime like that, that's saying

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<v Speaker 4>we will fell up. If you try something, that's what

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<v Speaker 4>it feels like. Just put it in lays, that's what

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<v Speaker 4>it feels like. Cross this line if you want to.

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<v Speaker 4>I am terrified about this. I am so terrified about

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<v Speaker 4>this because they could be a cornered animal. They can

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<v Speaker 4>be the negotiator or escalate and they could say no

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna escalate because we're tied Israel has been killing

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<v Speaker 4>our people. We're gonna make this a religious war.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to get the background to the audience

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<v Speaker 4>and get y'all thoughts about it, because I am pretty

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<v Speaker 4>concerned that we could really see a nuclear war.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean, if you thank you for the breakdown.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the detailed breakdown, I would insert one

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 1>other I would say provocation by Israel that preceded the

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.879
<v Speaker 1>mass bombing that they have undertaken of late, and that

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 1>is they sent almost the CIA version in Israel, the

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<v Speaker 1>version of the CIA in Israel. That's the best way

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<v Speaker 1>I can put it. But otherwise clandestine organization. They sent

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<v Speaker 1>clandestine troops into Iran the weekend prior to the negotiations

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:09.400
<v Speaker 1>beginning about uh that you referenced before that Trump walked

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.440
<v Speaker 1>away from from the nation of World, from the from

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the world that included all industrialized nations democratic nations as

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:22.360
<v Speaker 1>a part of that treaty. Those negotiations were to take

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<v Speaker 1>place over the weekend, and prior to those negotiations taking place,

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Net and Yahoo decides to send their clandestine troops into

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<v Speaker 1>a sovereign territory of Iran and pretty much took out

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>assassinated the top brass of Iranian military leadership.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this is scientists.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that not just a scientist, but military generals, they're

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<v Speaker 1>air force. I mean, these these were very calculated, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say, probably of a sophistication level that has not

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 1>been executed by another nation to this point in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why it hasn't been executed by another

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:06.719
<v Speaker 1>nation in the world despite their capabilities, is that everyone

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>knows the splatter that comes from that kind of warfare.

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 1>One when you say it's okay to go into a

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 1>sovereign nation and do that, and you permit it, you

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:22.199
<v Speaker 1>also permit it for yourself. That's why sovereigns don't endorse

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:25.439
<v Speaker 1>the killing of other sovereign kings and queens. Because you

0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>permit a god given sovereign to be assassinated, you invite

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the same into yourself. So most nations don't carry out

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 1>those kinds of operations because they don't want the same.

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:39.879
<v Speaker 1>They don't want to create a permission structure for the

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:44.640
<v Speaker 1>same thing to happen to them. So the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>these layers are so important, in my opinion, is it

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 1>shows not a response to Iran for a specific action.

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 1>This is a well calculated, well matured It seems to

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<v Speaker 1>me that the plans that have been on the bookshelves

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 1>for years, if not decades, under net and Yahoo and

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:10.439
<v Speaker 1>his ultra conservative regime, that they are now because Trump

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>has created the permission structure by basically saying, I don't

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>care what the hell they do to them, I don't

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>care what I mean that That's pretty much what he

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 1>said about this part of the world out in here

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:23.200
<v Speaker 1>on this topic. And that is simply to say, this

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>is America leadership in the world at its worst. If

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>if what is happening in the Middle East doesn't do

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>anything else to us, it should hold a mirror up

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>to the American people to say that Trump has been

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>asleep at the wheel. Countries are going ape shit bombing

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>each other, India's you know, experiencing its aggressive tendencies, China

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 1>towards the Taiwanese and the Taiwan's straits.

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 4>Access that they're forming, Indiana, Russia. I mean, this is

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 4>the you know, don't leave out North Korea, like this

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 4>is a new world order.

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<v Speaker 1>The United States to decide, Yeah, we used to have

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>to give permission for these kinds of things to take place.

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>And I don't mean to perpetuate the the you know,

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 1>this sort of big popa role. But what's true is true,

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and that is the United States has been the global

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>war leader and has set the global war order for

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<v Speaker 1>the last sixty or some odd years.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I don't think that order has been perfect.

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>In fact, it is filled with mistaken era. Well, what's

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>happening now, the kind of chaos y'all, Tiffany, your right

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>to be concerned. I'm absolutely concerned, mostly because I think

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>net and Yahoo is going to leave Donald Trump by

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the nose to the American people into a war, which

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I think will help to fracture Trump's space. Who are

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>natives at hard They don't want their money going overseas

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>and don't want the troops their sous and Donald's going overseas.

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>And if Trump preceedes down this line, I think he's

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>looking for trouble.

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Andrew, I you know again, this is all very

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 4>frightening to me to see what's happening. And I think

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 4>it's not a matter of if we'll get involved, but

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 4>when so, I just thought it was important to talk

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 4>about this because news happens and changes so quickly, and

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 4>this is a huge, huge deal. And you know, like Angela,

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 4>you have your hands full with what's happening here in

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 4>America and we can't take our eye off that while

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 4>around us chaos swirl. So it just feels like because

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 4>people are saying, oh, this is a distraction from what's

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 4>happening domestically, and I don't know that this is a distraction,

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 4>like this is something right, right, It's not a distraction.

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 4>This is something that that requires our attention, and it's

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 4>a manipulative tactic.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I was just gonna say on this point. You know,

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 5>this kind of happens for me every time we do this.

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm fine with domestic policy. I don't know why, but

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 5>foreign policy is always and I talk about on the show,

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.959
<v Speaker 5>it's always been harder for me to like absorb and

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 5>get it and follow all the players. So I'm sure

0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 5>there are folks at home that feel similarly. I'm glad

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 5>when you're I'll do these, But I would be lying

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 5>if I didn't say that part of me is feeling

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 5>the angstuff. But ice is on our streets and they're

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 5>trying to create manufacture literally, war on our own streets.

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 5>So how do you tell people to carry both, like

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 5>we can't afford not to carry both. What's the instruction

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 5>or the directive that you would give to some of

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 5>us who are battling. Well, this feels really present for me,

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 5>and it's right outside my door. It's impacting my neighbors.

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 5>I'm seeing, I'm hearing about kids being disappeared or their

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 5>parents being disappeared, so they're stranded and holding on to

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 5>teachers as like this cliped that Joy put up yesterday.

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 5>So what do you tell folks that are like, I

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 5>don't know if I could.

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 4>Do both, I get it, and I'm not asking anybody

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 4>to do both. Just listening to us talk about it

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 4>is enough, just so you're aware, because it's nothing that

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 4>we can do on the global stage to stop anything.

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 4>So if you can just be aware that this is happening,

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 4>the closest I can example I can give is Game

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 4>of Thrones when all the people were fighting, but the

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 4>White Walkers were in regardless. So y'all are fighting over

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 4>who's gonna sit on this iron throne, but out there

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 4>in the atmosphere, the White Walkers are coming. So then collectively,

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 4>y'all all had to get together to fight them. That's

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 4>what it can feel like. And you can make the

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 4>White Walkers climate change, you can make the White Walkers

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 4>nuclear weapons.

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 5>Whatever they are, the White Walkers. But so here's my question,

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 5>how do we come together? Well, how do we come

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 5>I guess we're not coming together with the White Walkers,

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 5>but how do we come together with people who are

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 5>seeking our demise right now? How do we come together

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 5>with people who are, at least it appears to be

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 5>acting like ice even when they're not. We don't have

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 5>any way to verify if these chokes are actually law enforcement,

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 5>which is what they've done since slavery. So how do

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 5>we find ourselves coming together to prepare for an international

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 5>onslaught of terror and violence when they are terrorizing us

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 5>currently on these streets. What is the pathway for coming

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 5>together so we can protect the homeland? What's the princess

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 5>for doing that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Angela, first of all, thank you for raising it,

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.959
<v Speaker 1>because I know how true it is, the dissonance that

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>we all feel. That's why I used to bother me

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>so much when I would hear thirteen thousand troops killed

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>in Afghanistan, right because I got a nephew who's in

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the Marines, and I have uncles who have served this

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>country and an uncle who lost his life serve in

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>this country. So the dissidence actually isn't dissidents at all.

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>The only reason why we can create separation is because

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>we now have an all voluntary military versus where all

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>of us could be conscripted into service in this country.

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>The end of the conscription allowed a lot of us

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to just turn our heads away from what was happening

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>outside of our quote unquote geographical boundaries. But our sons,

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>our daughters, our cousins, our nieces and nephews and uncles

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>when they get central broad into these senseless wars. I

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>remember Obama talking about I have to be able to

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>explain to a mother, a father, or sister or brother,

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>a daughter, a son, why I sent his father or

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>mother to death.

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>So it may be an expansion on the warfare that

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 1>we're experiencing on the home front, but these international entrapments,

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel like that's the direction we're heading

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>here with us on the topic that we just raised.

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>This is our children's future, literally those who are in service.

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>And then secondarily, the amount of money that we're gonna

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>spend there. Imagine how much the United States Congress is

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>going to try to claw back and domestic programming and

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>programming to assist middle class and striving and working class

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>families and poor kids. They're gonna try and claw all

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:53.479
<v Speaker 1>that back because they let Net and Yahoo lead them

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>by the nose into a war that cost us in

0:33:56.200 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>treasure but more importantly cost us in lives. So I

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>would just I don't want the conscription back, but I

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>would love for us to engage in these kinds of

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:13.240
<v Speaker 1>conversations and the full awareness that American bodies are online.

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and just to your to back you up on that,

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 4>Andrew again, I'm not even asking people to do anything.

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:21.240
<v Speaker 4>I think if the only thing you do is listen

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:24.399
<v Speaker 4>to us and understand, Oh, this is real serious, what's

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 4>happening on the global stags, that's enough. Never in history

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:30.360
<v Speaker 4>have we been asked to consume so much information and

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 4>care about it all. That's how we end up caring

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 4>about nothing because it becomes too much. I think right now,

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 4>if you are focused on ices on these streets and

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 4>they're coming in masked men are on behalf of the

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 4>United States government are disappearing people. We are looking again

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 4>at state sponsored violence that black folks know all too

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 4>well because we never had a reprieve from it. We

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.439
<v Speaker 4>never had any relief. So when we see mass men,

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 4>and I think we can't ignore the fact that a

0:34:55.840 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 4>mass man showed up at two lawmakers' homes and attempted

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 4>to kill them, was successful in the case of the

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 4>former state House speaker and her husband, and was almost

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 4>successful with a host of other people, not just the

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 4>two people he shot, but he showed up at other

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:13.840
<v Speaker 4>people's homes with the intention of killing him. So you

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 4>think about that, and then think about and we also

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 4>have mass men showing up to courtrooms, kidnapping people, showing

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 4>up to people's homes, kidnapping them, stopping people on the streets,

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 4>kidnapping them, showing them to their jobs, kidnapping them. How

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 4>do I know that you are even entitled to And

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 4>they are arresting which they do not have the right

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 4>to do. They are arresting democratic office holders, as we

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 4>just saw this week in New York with the city

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:44.360
<v Speaker 4>comptroller who happens to be running for mayor. I just

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.240
<v Speaker 4>not have the authority to arrest the United States citizens.

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 4>When he said that I had to look that up

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 4>to make sure that's you. They don't have that authority.

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 4>So we are looking at if there is a through line,

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 4>we're looking at a potential war with authoritarian regimes while

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 4>at home, and authoritarian regime is taking over our country.

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:07.240
<v Speaker 4>The irony and hypocrisy right exactly. So everything is on fire.

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 4>So my recommendation is, get a bucket of water and

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 4>throw it at whatever you can. It doesn't have to

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:14.839
<v Speaker 4>be Iran and the nukes. It don't have to be Ice,

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 4>if it's just cleaning up your neighborhood, if it's just

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 4>going to the school board meeting making sure they don't

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 4>cancel books or cancel history class, or whatever you can do.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I don't even know how we stop this, friend,

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<v Speaker 4>Sheherylyn Eiffel, Yes, Sherilyn Eiffel Well, who is of course

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<v Speaker 4>the former head of the naacp ODF. She acknowledged, I

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 4>don't know that we can stop any of this. I

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 4>don't have a path for it, but I know that

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 4>we have to fight. And she said indifference is obedience

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<v Speaker 4>in advance, and.

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<v Speaker 3>That just stuck with me.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you might be able to kill me, but

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:56.839
<v Speaker 4>I promise you I'm gonna fight to the death before

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 4>I just lay down and die in whatever capacity I can.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my people did this weekend TIF all over the country. Yeah,

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 1>they said, threatening if you want, this is a democracy.

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 3>And all empires fall. I do feel like we're looking

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 3>at the fall of an empire.

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<v Speaker 4>But for we march right on the other side of

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 4>this break, there is brand new data that is a

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 4>snapshot of how black women are feeling right now.

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<v Speaker 6>We're going to dig into that on the other side.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>I am so thrilled to be joined by these guests.

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<v Speaker 4>We have Madame Gabrielle Wyatt joined by Zaddy with a

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:46.480
<v Speaker 4>z coroneller.

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<v Speaker 3>That it was.

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<v Speaker 5>Why didn't we just walk into Andrew?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this thing drops at eleven a m my mother,

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm stating.

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<v Speaker 5>My continuing the whole fair from.

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<v Speaker 7>Y'all.

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Don't know the Native had a whole bop.

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 5>After Dark apparently dark uncut.

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 4>But on a serious note, these two teamed up and

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 4>did an amazing poll on how black women feel after

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 4>the election.

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 3>This is speaking right to my heart.

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm writing something on this right now, so I'm really

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 4>I was really thrilled to look at the slides and

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 4>I Angela had the great idea to have you both

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 4>on together. Lauren, our executive producer, put these slides on

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 4>our radar, and so I'm just really happy to have

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 4>you both on the show today. And before we get started,

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 4>this may be a little strange, but I'm looking at you, Gabrielle,

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 4>and it is reminding me of someone we we lost.

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 4>But you have a striking, uncanny resemblance. You already know

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 4>what I'm going.

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 3>To say, probably to Ananda Luis. The resemblance is there.

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 4>You obviously get that a lot because you're nodding, but

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 4>you're you're beautiful for the people who are listening.

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:05.799
<v Speaker 3>You're very beautiful. But yeah, I see that resemblance there.

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 5>I appreciate it.

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:08.919
<v Speaker 8>Thank you for bringing her into this space too.

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 4>Yes, our I p to her. We we love she

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:14.839
<v Speaker 4>was such a beautiful person in all of our.

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 7>Are Like Denzel, I'm not going to say was understood.

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't need to be said. I can I can I

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 4>say really quickly though we started okay, wait because this

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 4>is but this is a good story.

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 3>Denzel Uh in the.

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 4>Movie he was playing like a terrorist UH safe house

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 4>and he was doing an interview Cornell already knows the story.

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 4>He was doing an interview and they asked him, like,

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:47.919
<v Speaker 4>who was your inspiration to play this crazy sociopath.

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Cornell Voucher?

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 4>He really, he said Cornell, but because he tried to

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 4>do his hair like Cornell, so he like had his

0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 4>hair out in salt and pepper. He literally Cornell all

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 4>with the influencer.

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 7>Look, I know psycho path right, that's that's really cool, I.

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 5>Might say sociopath. We love Cortnell. He is brilliantly. We

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 5>have a lot of data to get into minutes because

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 5>they got to go. But that was a fifteen minute intro. Okay,

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 5>I know, Sorry, I can't be trusted anymore, and I

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 5>really can't. You know, I got a d D. So

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 5>I was right with you. Okay, So I want I

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:34.800
<v Speaker 5>want you all to just to give us the top

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.879
<v Speaker 5>lines about this poll. Why this poll?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 5>I think black women are probably like, we know how

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 5>we feel, but it's important, I think in so many

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 5>spaces where our voices are not lifted up and elevated

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 5>to bring attention to how we're feeling and how we're responding.

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:53.760
<v Speaker 5>Because it's not just a despondent this is our feeling.

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 5>This is what we're this is where we're at. There's

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 5>also a response happening, so talk about why this poll

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 5>and why now? Yeah, I can start and Cornell definitely

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 5>jump in.

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 8>You know, we teamed up beginning in twenty twenty one,

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:08.840
<v Speaker 8>and it's for the same reason that we said we

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 8>were going to keep going this year, which was we

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 8>know we are not listened to and centered in data,

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 8>and that it's not just that we're not listened to,

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 8>but our experiences aren't valued holistically nor equally compared to others.

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 8>And as I think about this moment, many said, Gabrielle Cornell,

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:32.319
<v Speaker 8>why are you going to do it again?

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 5>We already know how we feel.

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 8>And for me, it was important one in a time

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 8>where so much of rasure is happening, that we continue

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 8>to build one of the largest archives of the experiences

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 8>of black women and not just the day to day

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 8>but our dreams and aspirations. That's one of the most

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 8>beautiful parts about this partnership with Cornell, and perhaps most

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 8>unexpected for others to hear, is how many dreams we

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 8>have heard over twenty twenty one. And you can first

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 8>look at this year and say there's no dreaming happening Gabrielle.

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:06.799
<v Speaker 8>But when I see that black women are continuing to

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 8>name that the future is most important for little ones

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 8>and we've got to figure this shit out, that is dreaming.

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 8>That's evidence of dreaming. And I would say the second

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 8>is the reminder to all of us here and listening

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 8>of we're not a monolith. And that's why we had

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 8>a responsibility to listen again this year and continue. And

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 8>I hope the way I'm waking up this morning is

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 8>I hope that as black women read this data, as.

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:33.320
<v Speaker 5>They hear other stories, that they.

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:36.719
<v Speaker 8>Remember they're not alone. And so I wake up every

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:40.279
<v Speaker 8>day primarily in rooms like this. Not every black woman

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:43.319
<v Speaker 8>or girl does, And so I hope that when she

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 8>reads this and sees that folks their mental health is

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 8>worse off, that she knows she's not alone, and how

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 8>she's feeling that day too, I love that.

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 7>I would say, well, first, I think we ought to

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:59.239
<v Speaker 7>give big ups to Gabrielle and what she's doing at

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:01.880
<v Speaker 7>the Highland Produce, because she is making a space for

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.879
<v Speaker 7>women and their voices and their stories, and she's doing

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 7>a remarkable She's doing a remarkable job, and the importance

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 7>of this is voice. Look, data for me is not

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 7>just data, It is stories. It is people's voices. And Gabrielle,

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 7>you'll remember from one I think the comments we got

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 7>back as we put out the data was a thank

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 7>you because from someone who says often I don't feel

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 7>my voice is heard or the voice of black women

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 7>aren't heard. Right, So this is telling Black women stories

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 7>and we are demanding that these stories be heard and

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 7>their voices be heard. And that's what this data is.

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 7>So I hold data is sort of sacred because it

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 7>is because it's people. There are people in voices behind

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 7>this data. And look, there's not a lot of organizations

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 7>out there, you know, doing large sample sizes of just

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 7>African American women, right. You know you all know this

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 7>because you're all political hacks in some way, shape, form

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 7>or fashion. But in most of these national polls you

0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:59.919
<v Speaker 7>get out, you know, you may have sixty or seven

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 7>the African American women in there, right, so it's not

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 7>a robust sample of African American women, but sort of

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 7>really focus on these African American women. And look, the

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 7>and we're not in the Highland Group project is not partisan.

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.799
<v Speaker 7>But since the press, since the election, you do have

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 7>a deep sense of from these women and from the

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 7>day to day literally say we feel like we're going

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 7>backwards and the economic angst is real. Look, you know,

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 7>in twenty twenty four, forty percent of African American women

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 7>said that the economic conditions in the country are getting worse. Today,

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 7>that's eighty seven, right, It's near universally felt that by

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 7>these African American women, that that the overall economy is

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.839
<v Speaker 7>getting worse. Right, and you and in twenty twenty four

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 7>when we did this, you know, you, we had just

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:49.320
<v Speaker 7>thirty seven percent of African American women saying they felt

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 7>that they were falling behind their economic conditions, they were

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 7>falling behind economically. Now you have a majority of fifty

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 7>seven percent of African American women say that they are

0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 7>falling behind economically. Right, So we have a tremendous shift

0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:05.720
<v Speaker 7>of what's happening with African American women. And as Gabrielle

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:09.480
<v Speaker 7>talked about, right, we even delved into questions around mental

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 7>health and they and they and they and they talk

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 7>about sort of how their their mental health is is

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 7>worse off now and how so many of them are

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:23.920
<v Speaker 7>pulling back even from from from news sources because quite frankly, uh,

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:27.120
<v Speaker 7>it makes it makes them depressed. So we got to

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 7>give voice to this.

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:34.399
<v Speaker 4>I think that's so profound what you said, because you know,

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 4>this data feels like home to us, because these are

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 4>the conversations that we're having at brunches, in our group

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:43.359
<v Speaker 4>chats when we connect and convene, and certainly right here

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 4>on Native lampod we've revisited this. Why the focus on

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 4>black women as opposed to black men? And if you

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 4>have done any of that kind of research, Cornell, which

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:57.760
<v Speaker 4>I imagine you have, is there a lot of daylight

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 4>between us and our beloved count parts and their outlook

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:02.840
<v Speaker 4>on the country.

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 7>Well, I can we curse on this podcast? This is

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:11.360
<v Speaker 7>you know, this is a gross I'm still sick of

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 7>a narrative about so trying to pit African American men

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:19.279
<v Speaker 7>versus African American women. Right, if you look at the

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:24.839
<v Speaker 7>history of this, go back to Carter, Right, you have

0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:30.240
<v Speaker 7>roughly anywhere between twelve and nineteen percent of African Americans

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:35.800
<v Speaker 7>voting Republican. So you had roughly thirteen fourteen percent of

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:39.919
<v Speaker 7>African Americans voting Republican this past time around. And there's

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:44.399
<v Speaker 7>always a gender gap, right, men vote more Republican than

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 7>women do. In every ethnic demographic group there is. You

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 7>know who has the smallest difference between how their men

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:56.719
<v Speaker 7>and women vote, Black men. The difference between how black

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 7>men and Black women vote as less than five points.

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 7>That is, that is the lowest. That that's the lowest

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 7>there is. But it's ideal that somehow, you know, black

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 7>men are behaving dramatically different than than than the Black

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:14.239
<v Speaker 7>women in their community. We're both seeing the threats to

0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:19.239
<v Speaker 7>our community and we're both frustrated with what's happening politically.

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 7>I think is I think it's a it's a it's

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:26.920
<v Speaker 7>it's a narrative that I think is it's it's diabolical,

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 7>and we've got to push We've got to push back

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 7>on it. I'm less worried about you know, thirteen or

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:36.759
<v Speaker 7>fourteen percent of African American men voting Republican that I

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 7>am the forty percent who just are so discouraged by

0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 7>politics and part and and that nothing changes that they

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 7>don't turn out. That's the difference between winning elections and

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:53.640
<v Speaker 7>losing elections. Not between two three percent difference between how

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 7>Black men and Black women vote. It is the overwhelming

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 7>lack of turnout that we've been seeing among younger voters

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:05.840
<v Speaker 7>and also voters of color, which quite frankly cost Harris

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:09.319
<v Speaker 7>the election a lot more so than this ideal that

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:13.280
<v Speaker 7>somehow we got to win back working class white people,

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 7>non college white people, by the way, a group that

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:20.399
<v Speaker 7>has not broken for Democrats in any real way in

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 7>three or four in three or four decades. And you

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 7>know what percentage of non college white men, non college

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:29.880
<v Speaker 7>white voters, Harris Scott got the same percentage that that

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 7>Biden did on his way to winning. Right, that's not

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:35.800
<v Speaker 7>the that's not the focus. We've got to energize and

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:39.440
<v Speaker 7>mobilize and bring these people into the process.

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:43.920
<v Speaker 3>It perpetuates a narrative that the working class is white

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 3>or right exactly, Sorry, I interrupted, do you go.

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:54.160
<v Speaker 1>In No, no, no, I just I'm glad that the Accordnell.

0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 1>One of the things I reflect on when I think

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:58.959
<v Speaker 1>about the twenty and twenty four election is how many

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:02.319
<v Speaker 1>black men actually feel proud to finally be able to

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:04.960
<v Speaker 1>be asked the question about what they thought and what

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:07.279
<v Speaker 1>they believed. And I think some of that started to

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 1>then deepen sort of this narrative that black men are

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 1>here and black women are there and I think that's

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that this study helps to kind

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:22.399
<v Speaker 1>of go directly to the point, which is you need

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to know what black women think, and not just so

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 1>that they can end up in your speech, but so

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that your public policy starts to reflect some of these concerns.

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 1>And I wonder who should we want to be hearing

0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 1>from right now and quoting you all's brilliant work when

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the public policy agenda that is going

0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:50.759
<v Speaker 1>to put progressive thinkers like myself back in charge because

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 1>all I hear is an anti Trump narrative, and I

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 1>can't wait for the construction of why don't we take

0:49:56.560 --> 0:50:00.319
<v Speaker 1>our best assets right? The folks who win, they're not

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 1>with us, drag Whoever the Democrat is at the helm right,

0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>their pole numbers shatter when black women and black men

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 1>aren't there. So do you feel a sense of an

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:14.240
<v Speaker 1>early formation of that? What does the take back agenda

0:50:14.320 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 1>look like for this country if it doesn't include hook

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:19.840
<v Speaker 1>line and sinker, which you all have identified here as

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the highest priority concerns that black women are reflecting, which

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:27.839
<v Speaker 1>I would say also encompasses what black men often think about.

0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 7>I want to say that I'm gonna throw it to

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:32.799
<v Speaker 7>Gabriel because I want black women to talk more than

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:36.760
<v Speaker 7>than than than black men about this, about this. But

0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:39.839
<v Speaker 7>but black power starts with black women. It just does, right.

0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:44.320
<v Speaker 7>There is no black power movement in this country without

0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:50.399
<v Speaker 7>black women being upfront and and making that happen, because

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:52.440
<v Speaker 7>they are the most likely, they're they're most they're far

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:54.399
<v Speaker 7>more likely to vote. And this is what I tell

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:55.720
<v Speaker 7>any campaign, y'all.

0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:56.520
<v Speaker 5>Cut that clip.

0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:59.919
<v Speaker 7>I tell any campaign, and you know this from your

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 7>even campaign, like if if black women, if black women

0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:06.640
<v Speaker 7>galvanize around you, the community will follow right so first

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:09.359
<v Speaker 7>and foremost for anyone out there. And I tell Cann

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:12.239
<v Speaker 7>this all this time. You know, if if, if you,

0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:17.440
<v Speaker 7>if black women get behind you, the community will will follow.

0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 7>And so I think that's so important to centralize this

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:24.000
<v Speaker 7>ideal of black power. I'm sorry, guys, but it does

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 7>have to be centralized black black women because they are

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:30.879
<v Speaker 7>voting in such higher, high, higher, higher numbers and turning

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:33.839
<v Speaker 7>out in so much higher numbers. And women, by the way,

0:51:34.120 --> 0:51:37.439
<v Speaker 7>you're the you're more, you're the majority. It's not us men.

0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:41.480
<v Speaker 7>I'm sorry, Geb. I'm gonna start talking now.

0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:46.479
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, okay, I'll listen to you. My brother, I would

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:50.280
<v Speaker 8>say that what's been on my mind is what Cornell

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:52.719
<v Speaker 8>didn't mention, was like, everyone is naming that this is

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:55.920
<v Speaker 8>an unfair and rig system when we look at this

0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 8>data and we know that that is true on the

0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 8>other side, not only for black men, but my hunters,

0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:04.160
<v Speaker 8>for the majority of Americans. And I share that because

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 8>one of the reasons we started this journey was so

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:09.160
<v Speaker 8>many funders were saying to me that wealth is only

0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 8>about becoming a billionaire. And I said, that's not true,

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:13.640
<v Speaker 8>and I'm going to prove it. I'm going to prove

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:16.960
<v Speaker 8>it to you that wealth is more than currency. And

0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 8>when I look at the last five years, black women

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:22.640
<v Speaker 8>have named an expansive vision of wealth. They said, it's

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:25.800
<v Speaker 8>about choice. We want choice beyond a zero sum game.

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 8>We want financial freedom, we want belonging, and we want

0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:32.080
<v Speaker 8>thriving health. And I'm naming those pieces because I think

0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:34.440
<v Speaker 8>a lot of Americans, perhaps I eagerly I think this

0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:38.440
<v Speaker 8>want those four same things and are pointing to an

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:41.719
<v Speaker 8>unfair and rig system as one of the leading causes.

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:47.440
<v Speaker 8>I think that in this moment, it's a mistake for

0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 8>any leader, regardless of politic regardless of sector, to look

0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:55.759
<v Speaker 8>at what we heard and think that black women are

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:57.840
<v Speaker 8>showing up in the same way. Because we heard that

0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 8>a majority of fifty five percent of black women and

0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 8>are naming we have to fight for our rights and

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:06.879
<v Speaker 8>build a future. Yes, we are naming that, but we're

0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 8>building very differently right And so I think I'm curious

0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:12.839
<v Speaker 8>Cornell and I are in a conversation last week where

0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 8>a sister of ours said, because I'm not putting money

0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:17.759
<v Speaker 8>forward in a campaign in the same way that I

0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:20.399
<v Speaker 8>did before, and so I'm naming that because I think

0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:23.720
<v Speaker 8>of risk in looking at this information is that folks

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 8>remain comfortable that they make the assumption that Black women

0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:29.239
<v Speaker 8>are showing up in the same way when they see

0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 8>that data point. And I think that that would be

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:34.799
<v Speaker 8>a poor decision for anyone in their seem to make

0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:35.359
<v Speaker 8>or core.

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Is there optimism out there? Do you have optimism that

0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:42.319
<v Speaker 1>some folks are catching the give us the early tea

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:46.080
<v Speaker 1>leaves of how the data's landed with the donor class

0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and the leading class, who often frankly go to data

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:52.400
<v Speaker 1>to shape their framework of how to move forward.

0:53:54.840 --> 0:54:01.480
<v Speaker 5>Cautiously optimistic, and in a moment I will make consciously optimistic.

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:04.560
<v Speaker 8>I think that what feels different this year is that

0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:08.319
<v Speaker 8>we can show scale, that we're showing scale and the

0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:12.040
<v Speaker 8>lived experiences, and that we're freaking consistent as black women.

0:54:12.160 --> 0:54:15.400
<v Speaker 8>We're not all of a sudden naming that we're concerned

0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:20.160
<v Speaker 8>about the future. We're not all the sudden becoming folks

0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:24.200
<v Speaker 8>who are about rooted in love, rooted injustice, rooted.

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:24.799
<v Speaker 5>And fairness right.

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:28.480
<v Speaker 8>And I'm naming that because in the world I sit

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:33.000
<v Speaker 8>in of watching philanthropy ping pong words around and strategies

0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:35.799
<v Speaker 8>around right now, which is part of the reason why

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:39.840
<v Speaker 8>we're in this mess is we, as long as black women,

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:44.359
<v Speaker 8>have always taken an emergent view of the future. And

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:47.279
<v Speaker 8>so I think that's where I have cautious optimism, is

0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:53.080
<v Speaker 8>that the funder class is seeing consistency, seeing consistency, that

0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 8>the same values are leading our work, seeing consistency that

0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:02.400
<v Speaker 8>we are not just human beings who are survivors, but

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 8>human beings who want to thrive and have stories of thriving,

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:10.760
<v Speaker 8>and we're going to get there. I'm curious there seems

0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 8>to be this narrative that you know, black women, by extension,

0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:19.840
<v Speaker 8>black folks we mine in our business. You know that

0:55:19.920 --> 0:55:22.800
<v Speaker 8>we are like wiping our hands, We're done with this place.

0:55:23.520 --> 0:55:24.440
<v Speaker 8>It's anecdotal.

0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:28.240
<v Speaker 4>We see that in comments on our respective social medias

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:30.600
<v Speaker 4>and certainly in Native Land as a whole. I've seen

0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:35.120
<v Speaker 4>maybe black faces who might be less connected to the

0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:41.359
<v Speaker 4>community regurgitate this narrative on air, and I'm curious, as

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:44.440
<v Speaker 4>I look at your data, it seems to poke holes

0:55:44.800 --> 0:55:45.520
<v Speaker 4>in that theory.

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:46.279
<v Speaker 3>Can you talk to that?

0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:51.640
<v Speaker 8>This was one of our favorite co collaborations of last yours.

0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:56.040
<v Speaker 8>Cornell and I wanted to unpack the meme of black

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:59.240
<v Speaker 8>women sitting on the building right with the fire behind us,

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:02.000
<v Speaker 8>And so that's why we ask the question right of

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:05.719
<v Speaker 8>like the world's on fire, are you moving or are

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:08.960
<v Speaker 8>you resting? And so that's where we heard the majority

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:12.319
<v Speaker 8>of fifty five percent are naming. No, We're focused on

0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:17.200
<v Speaker 8>protection and building. But I think what's been unique in

0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:21.279
<v Speaker 8>the community conversations we've had since releasing the data is

0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:25.400
<v Speaker 8>the nuance behind what does it mean to continue to build?

0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:29.360
<v Speaker 8>And so you are here, I hear every day the

0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:32.920
<v Speaker 8>leaders that I serve name. I didn't react to immediately

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 8>go to a protest this time because I'm actually saving

0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:41.359
<v Speaker 8>my energy for this marathon of X right and so

0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:47.360
<v Speaker 8>I think that the lesson learned and that our community

0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:52.879
<v Speaker 8>holds sacred is that if Black women aren't sustained, our

0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:56.439
<v Speaker 8>homes aren't sustained, our communities aren't sustained. And so when

0:56:56.440 --> 0:56:59.440
<v Speaker 8>we say rest, I believe that in that fifty five percent,

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:03.719
<v Speaker 8>women are also resting. But they're resting not from a

0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:08.319
<v Speaker 8>definition of opting out. They're resting from my coach said

0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:10.319
<v Speaker 8>to me the other day. You rest so that your

0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:15.400
<v Speaker 8>nervous system can actually make meaning and actually dream again

0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 8>and have the power again, the energy again to pursue change.

0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:23.400
<v Speaker 8>And so I think it's nuanced when you go to

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:27.560
<v Speaker 8>the layers beneath of the choices folks are making so

0:57:27.600 --> 0:57:29.920
<v Speaker 8>that they can show up more holly for the future

0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:32.919
<v Speaker 8>they really believe in, instead of getting called to city

0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:35.200
<v Speaker 8>Hall every day to stand outside with the sign.

0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I think, I know you'll have a hard out,

0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:39.439
<v Speaker 1>but I have. Oh I'm sorry, go no please.

0:57:39.600 --> 0:57:41.760
<v Speaker 7>I was going to go really quickly because I want

0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:44.560
<v Speaker 7>to reinforce what Gabrielle is saying there, but I also

0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:48.040
<v Speaker 7>want to bring in that I'm suspicious of this narrative. Also,

0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:51.280
<v Speaker 7>I'm suspicious of what's driving this narrative because I see

0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:53.920
<v Speaker 7>it on social media all the time, and it is

0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:57.280
<v Speaker 7>like Black people need to pull back and pull out

0:57:57.360 --> 0:58:00.000
<v Speaker 7>and not be a part of the sort of process

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:02.240
<v Speaker 7>as a plow conversation, and we just need to let

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:06.280
<v Speaker 7>the world, you know, move without without us. You know, yes,

0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:11.400
<v Speaker 7>we need rest. But also listen, no one on this

0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:14.480
<v Speaker 7>this this stream right now would would be here if

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:17.680
<v Speaker 7>if if our grandmothers are our grand great grandmothers said

0:58:17.720 --> 0:58:19.280
<v Speaker 7>you know what, we're we're going to pull back from

0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:22.760
<v Speaker 7>the world because because of racism or because of any

0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:26.200
<v Speaker 7>of these isms. And certainly we all know that the

0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:29.120
<v Speaker 7>black community is the is the canarian the coal mine.

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:34.120
<v Speaker 7>Right We've generation upon generations of Black women and black

0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:36.840
<v Speaker 7>men who've had to fight and choose a lesser of

0:58:36.840 --> 0:58:40.840
<v Speaker 7>two evils and navigate this landscape. And so I'm also

0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:44.840
<v Speaker 7>so I'm I'm for rest, but I'm also a little

0:58:44.880 --> 0:58:48.320
<v Speaker 7>suspicious of who's of some of the some of what's

0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:51.120
<v Speaker 7>been happening with this narrative, because I think it's self

0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 7>defeating and I think it plays in the hands of

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 7>the enemies of our community and the other sort of

0:58:57.600 --> 0:59:00.840
<v Speaker 7>the thing that's the thing striking about this data is

0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:03.760
<v Speaker 7>is in Gabrielle Backman. This is like, well, fifty seven

0:59:03.760 --> 0:59:06.640
<v Speaker 7>percent of African American women say that they experienced racism

0:59:06.680 --> 0:59:11.800
<v Speaker 7>often in their lives. That's just start startling. And and

0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:15.240
<v Speaker 7>you know, and and and racism and discrimination is one

0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:18.040
<v Speaker 7>of their top obstacles they name as one of the

0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:22.720
<v Speaker 7>top obstacles to getting ahead or or or or or freedom.

0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:26.280
<v Speaker 7>So we're faced with, as we know, this existential racist

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:29.360
<v Speaker 7>threat from that from white nationalism right now. So I

0:59:29.760 --> 0:59:33.680
<v Speaker 7>really question this idea of where some of this is

0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:35.760
<v Speaker 7>coming from. Is ideal that, Okay, we just got to

0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:38.480
<v Speaker 7>pull back from the world right now when the world

0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:42.120
<v Speaker 7>when when white nationalism is on the march, it's kind

0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:44.080
<v Speaker 7>of we've got to pull back from the world right now.

0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:48.919
<v Speaker 1>Right Yeah, And whose algorithms are keeping that feed going?

0:59:49.080 --> 0:59:49.960
<v Speaker 5>Right?

0:59:49.960 --> 0:59:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Who's in charge of that narrative being? But I know

0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:56.880
<v Speaker 1>who is probably in charge of this color scheme of

0:59:56.880 --> 1:00:00.680
<v Speaker 1>this poll. And I'm curious to know what inspired this

1:00:00.880 --> 1:00:04.080
<v Speaker 1>ivy green and very blush pink.

1:00:04.320 --> 1:00:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Uh this is.

1:00:07.840 --> 1:00:11.520
<v Speaker 8>And I have come because we used to operate in

1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:13.480
<v Speaker 8>his power points and this year.

1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:17.960
<v Speaker 5>We're in Canaba and launched.

1:00:18.480 --> 1:00:21.080
<v Speaker 8>If you go to our Instagram, you'll see we actually

1:00:21.080 --> 1:00:25.840
<v Speaker 8>have no graphs at all the beautiful artwork that juxtapposes

1:00:25.880 --> 1:00:27.840
<v Speaker 8>the grief with black girl joy.

1:00:28.760 --> 1:00:30.080
<v Speaker 3>So thank you for poting that out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I thought, I thought, uh, Vice Presid Kamala

1:00:34.280 --> 1:00:39.479
<v Speaker 1>Harris with particularly appreciate Yeah, uh the schematics here. But

1:00:39.480 --> 1:00:41.600
<v Speaker 1>but y'all are y'all are really honing in on some

1:00:41.720 --> 1:00:44.280
<v Speaker 1>important work. And I just I hope that it continues

1:00:44.400 --> 1:00:48.560
<v Speaker 1>to reverberate and lift and almost past Donor class because

1:00:48.560 --> 1:00:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of over it. I was in the pitching

1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:53.120
<v Speaker 1>world for a very long time and it made me

1:00:53.280 --> 1:00:57.640
<v Speaker 1>sick that this room of of of aging largely white

1:00:57.720 --> 1:01:00.520
<v Speaker 1>liberals who were well intentioned and you know to the

1:01:00.560 --> 1:01:06.520
<v Speaker 1>extent that that yeah toward their giving, but oftentimes took

1:01:06.560 --> 1:01:09.840
<v Speaker 1>a very sort of where the parent in the room

1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:13.400
<v Speaker 1>approach to what's important, what isn't important, what elected is

1:01:13.400 --> 1:01:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the right one, which one isn't. But that hopefully this

1:01:17.160 --> 1:01:19.120
<v Speaker 1>data continues, and I know it to be true because

1:01:19.120 --> 1:01:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I live with a black woman who is at an

1:01:22.000 --> 1:01:27.680
<v Speaker 1>organizational meeting practically every night right doing something for an

1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:31.560
<v Speaker 1>organization that builds her and our family and strengthen us

1:01:31.560 --> 1:01:36.160
<v Speaker 1>and girds us up. So almost time out for the poohbahs.

1:01:36.680 --> 1:01:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Let the people you know accelerate this thing. And I

1:01:40.840 --> 1:01:45.720
<v Speaker 1>appreciate y'all putting that narrative really front and center your voices.

1:01:46.440 --> 1:01:50.160
<v Speaker 1>They don't decide that it matters, they matter because y'all matter. Period.

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<v Speaker 4>Enough said, I love that Well will certainly make these

1:01:53.800 --> 1:01:57.000
<v Speaker 4>slides available. They will definitely be referenced in what I'm writing.

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<v Speaker 4>So I appreciate you both. And it's a reunion here.

1:02:02.160 --> 1:02:07.600
<v Speaker 4>We're so excited to welcome you into the folds, Gab.

1:02:07.720 --> 1:02:11.880
<v Speaker 4>But I also all of us, Angela, Andrew, and I

1:02:11.920 --> 1:02:12.640
<v Speaker 4>have either.

1:02:12.560 --> 1:02:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Worked with or for.

1:02:15.840 --> 1:02:19.280
<v Speaker 4>Again, I'm not gonna do as anything, but I'm just

1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:22.160
<v Speaker 4>saying we all have a relationship with Cornell. I worked

1:02:22.160 --> 1:02:27.160
<v Speaker 4>for Cornell in the two thousand and seven during the administration.

1:02:27.320 --> 1:02:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Cornell was just.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Cornelle got Obama elected. But also, Andrew, you worked

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<v Speaker 4>with Cornell on your campaign. Angela, you've worked with Cornell,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's just.

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<v Speaker 7>Nice to me that campaign. That's how that's just let's

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<v Speaker 7>this is yeah, this is that's how black power, black

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<v Speaker 7>politics is supposed to work.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, as as a wise man on this podcast might say,

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<v Speaker 4>you have to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Nation, so we are all nation. We are all nations.

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<v Speaker 4>So thank you guys for doing this beautiful, insightful piece

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<v Speaker 4>of work. May it spread wide. Like I said, it

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<v Speaker 4>would certainly be referenced here, and I'm gonna personally pull

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<v Speaker 4>some of these slides and explore them deeper and will

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<v Speaker 4>follow up with you all directly if I have any

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<v Speaker 4>more questions. This is great, but it's really a great

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<v Speaker 4>service you're providing to not just black women, but people

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<v Speaker 4>with an intellectual curiosity about their fellow countrymen, white folks,

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<v Speaker 4>please tune.

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<v Speaker 3>In Jesus right, anybody who's running a campaign.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it was sad that there were people who

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<v Speaker 4>had to run a shadow operation on the Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 4>campaign to reach some of these demographics. And to your point, Andrew,

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<v Speaker 4>this donor class that is largely white and male, it

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<v Speaker 4>is time to be disrupted. As is the narrative that

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<v Speaker 4>black women are sitting home getting manicures while the world burns.

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<v Speaker 4>None of that is true. The devil is a lie.

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<v Speaker 4>As they said, Yeah, yeah, welcome. Thank you guys for

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<v Speaker 4>taking time out of your busy schedules joining us. This

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<v Speaker 4>is great and we look forward to welcome you all

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<v Speaker 4>both back soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome home, y'all.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you all.

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<v Speaker 1>This doesn't have to be recorded, but I do think

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with Cornell on you know, women have always

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<v Speaker 1>sort of been forbearers in our community as a relations

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<v Speaker 1>sort of set in the tone, but it also disregards

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<v Speaker 1>the structural ways in which men have been taken out

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<v Speaker 1>Where black men were working, they were leading, they were assisting,

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<v Speaker 1>they were partners, they were going through the ballot with

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<v Speaker 1>their with their spouses and family members, and that threat

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<v Speaker 1>right that the that then got diagnosed by the government

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<v Speaker 1>and by white supremacists then created a structure that systematically

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<v Speaker 1>removed us from Yes.

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<v Speaker 9>So that's not to take anything away, it's simply to

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<v Speaker 9>say that that that reality exists not only because but

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<v Speaker 9>also so in part to the fact that black men

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<v Speaker 9>have been structurally leveled.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's such a great point that you bring up.

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<v Speaker 4>Their policies were an impediment to our partnership and our

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<v Speaker 4>love in the nineteen seventies when they essentially expelled black

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<v Speaker 4>men from the home, particularly for impoverished black women who

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<v Speaker 4>needed support right, who needed support, who were oppressed, who

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<v Speaker 4>had been laid off, who had been routinely victimized by

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<v Speaker 4>this country. They said, okay, we'll give you a few coins,

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<v Speaker 4>but you got to kick that man out the house.

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<v Speaker 4>We cannot give you support. With the rise of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the different movements, you know, the Black Panther movement where

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<v Speaker 4>they jailed entire generations of thought leaders, thinkers, doers, act

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<v Speaker 4>of this geniuses. Even in the nineteen eighties when the

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<v Speaker 4>CIA morphed in the Nino Brown and pumped drugs into

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<v Speaker 4>our communities and destroyed our men, and then the nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>ninety these when they gave us mandatory minimum. So I

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<v Speaker 4>hear you, and I know that black men have been

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<v Speaker 4>most certainly uh just disrespected, oppressed, uh murdered by the state,

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of things.

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<v Speaker 1>So and those who survive it should be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you actually are surviving something. You're surviving a set

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<v Speaker 1>of structures, just as black women are structures that are

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<v Speaker 1>on your collapse. They're designed for.

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<v Speaker 5>Us, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeahiating And even but even before that, because you're

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<v Speaker 4>the father of two boys, even that, the idea of

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<v Speaker 4>how we treat our we started out young. We banish

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<v Speaker 4>our boys to remedial classes who don't need to be there,

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<v Speaker 4>and we you know, fund and fill this school to

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<v Speaker 4>prison pipeline. So from from prisons to to pedagogy, we

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<v Speaker 4>are setting some black men up for failure. So we

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<v Speaker 4>do not ever want to overlook that. But what I

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<v Speaker 4>would say though, to our beloved others out there, is

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<v Speaker 4>just because something is celebrating Black women, because we so

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<v Speaker 4>often feel the least loved, it does not mean is

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<v Speaker 4>putting down black men, like let us have our love,

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<v Speaker 4>you know if we say something like and I know

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<v Speaker 4>you do all the time, Andrew, But there's a whole

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<v Speaker 4>host of people out there who are so traumatized, who

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<v Speaker 4>are in so much pain, who are so hurt, and

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<v Speaker 4>they listen to these podcasts bros. And they ascribe to

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<v Speaker 4>these very toxic belief systems. They feel entitled to women

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<v Speaker 4>who you know, they they have not earned, and it

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<v Speaker 4>just creates for a toxic landscape of our love. And

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<v Speaker 4>the only thing that we that gave us the tools

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<v Speaker 4>to survive this four hundred plus year or nightmare was

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<v Speaker 4>the love we have for each other. And right now

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<v Speaker 4>policies are DISTI descentivizing, disincentivizing that love. And so I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's such a wise point that you brought up,

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<v Speaker 4>and we have to acknowledge the political infrastructure that harmed us.

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<v Speaker 4>We should maybe talk about this a little bit on

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<v Speaker 4>the mini pod. I know we said leadership, but then

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<v Speaker 4>we have love and I kind of feel like these

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<v Speaker 4>two intersect the bit.

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<v Speaker 5>So when we come back from this break, we're going

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<v Speaker 5>to get into our calls to action. If you like

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<v Speaker 5>that interview, though, please make sure you hit us with

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<v Speaker 5>going to hear this in time, because Tiffany will be

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<v Speaker 5>We're at six hundred and seventy four pages and so

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<v Speaker 5>take it in bite size. There's a reason why we

1:09:10.760 --> 1:09:13.360
<v Speaker 5>release them two by two and three by three. We

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<v Speaker 5>want you to slowly look at them all. They're very digestible,

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<v Speaker 5>at STATEUFDEPPL dot com. And speaking of hollering at us,

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<v Speaker 5>my other call to action is, we don't have nary

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<v Speaker 5>a listening question this week, and Tiff is going to

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<v Speaker 5>say it's because we haven't been answering and listening questions.

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<v Speaker 5>So I want y'all to send in your comments and

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<v Speaker 5>your questions. And if you agree with me that you

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<v Speaker 5>trying to figure out how we gonna handle what's going

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<v Speaker 5>on domestically. So you a little foggy about international affairs,

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<v Speaker 5>holler at me so I know I'm not by myself

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<v Speaker 5>that's on my CDAs.

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<v Speaker 1>And then say I know why it's relevant.

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<v Speaker 9>Or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe My CTA, y'all is when we make a demand,

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<v Speaker 1>let's follow it all the way through times a conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>so that demand might be you know, already decided, already declared.

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<v Speaker 1>I know people who thought they knew the conclusion to

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<v Speaker 1>some stories, uh, and so they let their foot off

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<v Speaker 1>the gas. You just never know what can happen if

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<v Speaker 1>you're if you are in this and if in case

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<v Speaker 1>it's a mystery of FAMU is on my mind. Our

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<v Speaker 1>HBCUs are on my mind. They may be in the

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<v Speaker 1>positions of power to do what they want to do

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<v Speaker 1>at this time, but I want to underscore at this

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<v Speaker 1>time because so long as there is still time, there's

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<v Speaker 1>still another battle to be waged. And I like, I understand,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a respectable person. I understand respectability politics. But when

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<v Speaker 1>the moment shifts and our communities in our country like

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<v Speaker 1>it has right now, I think our disposition has to

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<v Speaker 1>shift as well. So I was just as folks, instead

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<v Speaker 1>of criticizing the people who are going hard for their demand,

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<v Speaker 1>that if you make a demand, that you stand in

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<v Speaker 1>that demand and you fight like hell to see it met.

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<v Speaker 1>The damn to be honest with you with respectability.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that I had another call to action, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's too long, so I think I might save it

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<v Speaker 4>for the mini pod. And now I feel bad because

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<v Speaker 4>the call to action I have left is pretty selfish

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<v Speaker 4>because it's all about me. My call to action is

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<v Speaker 4>my friend Jackie Reid. You guys, remember Jackie. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>the first black woman I saw doing news for us

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<v Speaker 4>by us, so I was a fan before she became

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<v Speaker 4>a friend.

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<v Speaker 3>But she is.

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<v Speaker 4>She never tells anyone her age, so I'm gonna guess

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<v Speaker 4>that Jackie's thirty five, even though that would make her

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<v Speaker 4>ten years younger than me. But she looks amazing and

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<v Speaker 4>she's into wellness, and she is a vegan, and so

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<v Speaker 4>she has convinced me to try to go vegan.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not. I have not done it yet. I'm inching

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<v Speaker 3>my way there.

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<v Speaker 4>We both love love, love animals, and I'm just I've

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<v Speaker 4>never been like a big meat eater anyway. So my

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<v Speaker 4>call to action is words of encouragement, ideas for all

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<v Speaker 4>of you all out there who are vegans. Have great

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<v Speaker 4>vegan recipes, like how do you go through life without

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<v Speaker 4>using any animal products? Which I'm completely open to. The

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<v Speaker 4>One thing I think I miss immensely I would miss

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<v Speaker 4>is cheese. I love cheese. So like, what do you

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<v Speaker 4>do if you if you go vegan? Just give me

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<v Speaker 4>any thoughts and ideas y'all have that vegan life because

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of I love seeing all these black folks

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<v Speaker 4>who are growing their own vegetables and these amazing recipes.

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<v Speaker 4>Oyster mushrooms are so good, like all the stuff y'all

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<v Speaker 4>are doing, So put me on game.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's my.

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<v Speaker 1>Finding our restaurants when we travel. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 4>I consider everybody's dietary preferences and so I am always

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<v Speaker 4>happy to be in charge of food when we leave. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to lose some weight, so the vegan, but

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<v Speaker 4>vegan doesn't mean you lose weight.

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<v Speaker 3>You can still.

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<v Speaker 5>Heavy heavy on the carbs being vegan. Mostly I gained

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<v Speaker 5>weight se because rise. That's it's hard. The protein pieces. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>they try to make me seem like you can use

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<v Speaker 5>butterfly pee powder.

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<v Speaker 1>You can. My mama raised me.

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<v Speaker 3>I like, I like.

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<v Speaker 5>Drink, But you're not about eats and cheap peas every day.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I'm not. I'm not, this is true.

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<v Speaker 4>But I do go weeks without fish, so I think

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<v Speaker 4>I could give a fish.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't know what else like. I don't miss

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<v Speaker 3>meat at all. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking forward to y'all thoughts anyway. This is why

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<v Speaker 4>I need you all to tell a friend about this show,

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<v Speaker 3>Pods game so they can put me on game.

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<v Speaker 4>downloaded in those phones. And when you pick up that

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<v Speaker 4>phone and text that man, you know you ain't got

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<v Speaker 4>no business texting and you see, oh you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>never mind because it's a new episode of Native Lamp Pod.

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<v Speaker 4>So I could listen to that instead of texting his

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<v Speaker 4>dusty ass. You'll give me some encouragement in that area too.

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<v Speaker 5>You want toes we see and keep your the non dusties,

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<v Speaker 4>Reason Choice Media. Check out My Girl Jamil Hills politics.

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<v Speaker 4>I love Jamil. I think she's like the coolest person.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to be Jamail sometimes I'm not even gonna

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<v Speaker 4>lie like I want to talk about sports and I want.

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<v Speaker 5>To be likedays sports expert. What do you think about

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<v Speaker 5>what you think about the series?

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, Lord, I did not know that there

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<v Speaker 4>was a team in Oklahoma City, So this is yeah, until.

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<v Speaker 5>This is you know Oklahoma City is in. You know

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<v Speaker 5>who they're playing against.

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<v Speaker 4>They are playing against Dick Cheney's Halliburton, who plays for

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<v Speaker 4>the Pacers. And that's how I remember because I every

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<v Speaker 4>time I hear Halliburton, I think of Dick Cheney.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're not old enough, then you know what.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me tell you about your sports expertise and why

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<v Speaker 5>it matters.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting up there, welcome home.

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<v Speaker 5>You have a way of connecting people to other dots

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<v Speaker 5>that they need to know about outside of sports. So

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<v Speaker 5>when they get your sports expertise, there's this broader experience

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<v Speaker 5>that they.

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<v Speaker 1>Have generous with it. You're generous.

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<v Speaker 5>Nobody asked. It's beautiful, but I love that. Normally, would

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<v Speaker 5>I try to do get tipped with the gotcha questions?

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<v Speaker 5>She's ready, So the Pacers said, Okasey, you know who's ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>I do, but I don't want to ruin it for

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<v Speaker 4>people who have it on DVR because they might not

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not wanting lines.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe they can just bet on you. You're a betting woman.

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<v Speaker 5>Who you got in the series?

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<v Speaker 3>Who has more poems?

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<v Speaker 7>So?

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<v Speaker 3>Who has more backing?

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<v Speaker 1>Who y'all got down there? You got any bodies last week?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know I whoever? Whoever got the cutest single daddies.

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<v Speaker 5>The fact that you said single daddy says just aged

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<v Speaker 5>just out of this conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome home, y'all. There are five hundred in two days

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