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Speaker 1: Native lay Pot is a production of iHeart Radio in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 4: This is episode eighty four, Good Grief eighty four of

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Speaker 4: Native Lampie, where we give it to you straight, no

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Speaker 4: chase there and get into all things politics with a

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Speaker 4: little bit of culture. I am your host, Tiffany Cross

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Speaker 4: along with my fellow co host, going with the host,

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Speaker 4: Angela Right, and Andrew Gillham.

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Speaker 3: What's up, y'all like this?

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Speaker 1: I'm your host Tiffany and my that's day.

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Speaker 5: That's day. It'll be your time next week. Hosts. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 5: we all all are the hop I'm the main host,

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Speaker 5: and here's my co host, y'all. If y'all know the joke, y'all,

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Speaker 5: not a joke.

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Speaker 3: Andrew, where are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting comfortable in somebody's chair inside there? Actually, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm at a funeral convention. We are supposed to be

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Speaker 1: on our way. I called my best friend the other

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Speaker 1: day and when was the last time we took a

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Speaker 1: road trip. We got a head down to West Palm

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Speaker 1: Beach for these border governor's meeting where they're considering the

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Speaker 1: next President and family, along with two other universities, and

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Speaker 1: of course he had the answer call about fort this morning,

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Speaker 1: go get a pick up a body. That body then

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Speaker 1: delayed our departure, which got us a little late on

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Speaker 1: the road to South Florida. So we made a pit

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Speaker 1: stop in Central Florida, which is where I am right now,

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Speaker 1: and we're still.

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Speaker 6: Trying to make a body in the room with you know, the.

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Speaker 1: Body is with the people who you know gonna dress

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Speaker 1: the body.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I wasn't expecting that.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, But guess what, when

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Speaker 1: you're forty pushing fifty roadches just don't.

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Speaker 7: They don't thank you.

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Speaker 5: Let me go get this body real, No, I gotta

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Speaker 5: go to the bathroom. You guys, I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 5: someth I'm gonna get so much trouble with Poppa Rock.

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Speaker 1: What did you bring a bag?

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Speaker 5: You guys? My dad I can't tell you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gotta.

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Speaker 3: Tell us something now because he brought it up.

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Speaker 5: You guys. You know you know I love the just Waters.

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Speaker 5: You always got to shopping by black. I love just Waters.

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Speaker 5: My dad saves the containers because sometimes when he takes

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Speaker 5: his blood pressure of medicine. He's gotta be you can't

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Speaker 5: see through this, so please make sure you throw him out.

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Speaker 5: Man knows we didn't have that.

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Speaker 3: You guys the show get so much. I know because

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Speaker 3: I wanted to get get a whooping. Anybody to get so.

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Speaker 5: Much trouble tip, Oh my god, I just.

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Speaker 4: Get a whooping live on hair elementary. People's parents will

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Speaker 4: come up to the school. Yeah this was abuse and trouble,

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Speaker 4: but you would see them like get me in front

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Speaker 4: of the class.

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Speaker 5: What happened next week, which was traumatizing. He woke me

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Speaker 5: on Christmas when I.

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Speaker 4: Was if he did Angelo's parents spoil her, her dad

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Speaker 4: especially so if he did, believe, don't feel bad she

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Speaker 4: was asking for it.

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Speaker 5: For Christmas.

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Speaker 7: Day.

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Speaker 5: That was the first and last one. But he cried

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Speaker 5: harder than I did so.

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Speaker 1: This week because I showed up late to pick him

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Speaker 1: up Jackson, my oldest from his uh speeding agility camp.

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Speaker 1: I got there probably twenty minutes late. He got in

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Speaker 1: the carture. I was I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'm in a conversation.

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Speaker 3: I'm literally ghost the body in the background.

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Speaker 1: Girls shut up, but no, no, I get him in

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Speaker 1: the com like man how was the speeding agility camp?

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Speaker 1: And he's like fine, fine, I said, Jackson, are you

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Speaker 1: are you mad with me? I'm mad with you, I said, Jackson.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry I was late. I'm so sorry I

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Speaker 1: Like I was like, did you think I was gonna

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Speaker 3: That is terrible.

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Speaker 1: Eleven year olds. Eleven year olds.

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Speaker 5: Tell you that next time, I'm gonna come get in

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Speaker 5: myself because I don't know what you are doing. Basically,

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Speaker 5: then you know that I'm gonna come through. I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: run right to Chaillhasse and give my nephew so you

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Speaker 4: Well, I missed the show. So this is a very

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Speaker 4: belated Happy Father's Day to you, Andrew. And I love

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Speaker 4: the stories that you share about being such a great father,

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Speaker 4: and it's just an example that black dads matter. So

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Speaker 4: shout out to all the fathers, no matter what the

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Speaker 4: special Shout out to our brothers, our black fathers out

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Speaker 4: there raising wonderful black men and black black children. Say

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Speaker 4: black children, I don't want to over adult ride. It's

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Speaker 4: our children, black boys and black girls.

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Speaker 1: God knows. So does it quicker than we're ready?

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Speaker 4: Right exactly, Listen, we're about to get in the show.

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Speaker 4: But I know that we have a very loyal audience

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Speaker 4: out there. So for all the people, it seems like

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Speaker 4: lately I've been meeting so many people who stop me

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Speaker 4: and say I love Native Land. So I want to

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Speaker 4: and would love for you all, well, thank you. We

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Speaker 4: leave us a rating, just tell people about Native Land.

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Speaker 4: Because the more that y'all tune in and the more

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Speaker 4: And I want to send a special shout out and

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Speaker 4: thank you to all of you who send in your

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Speaker 4: viewer questions. And just a real quick point of clarity,

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Speaker 4: we consider y'all family. So if we make some offhanded

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Speaker 4: If we say something that y'all don't agree with, if

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Speaker 4: We are never saying anything to intentionally put somebody down,

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Speaker 4: So if that's ever been taken that way, I definitely

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Speaker 4: want to apologize. We love having conversation with you all

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Speaker 4: all of that. All right, Angel Andrew, what y'all got today?

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Speaker 5: Well, I have a complaint. My complaint is Tiffany is

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Speaker 5: going to be in Baltimore with our people, Andrew, and

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Speaker 5: trip and I just have beef.

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Speaker 1: Not a I ain't not here playing in the streets.

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Speaker 5: Now you've kind of played in this mission. Well okay,

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Speaker 5: so then maybe my beef is not with you, it's

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Speaker 1: That and Ron DeSantis and his Republican sycophants. Yes, Sanda,

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Speaker 1: you know, take everybody out, y'all. It's not a joke.

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Speaker 5: It's true, it's not a joke. I'm very upset. I

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Speaker 5: want my brother to be here with us. We are

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Speaker 5: A lot of people of ours v Pede I'm starting

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Speaker 5: We're doing our Juneteenth tomorrow, but we have our people

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Speaker 1: I'm tight and big and big, big, huge ups to you, Angela, who,

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Speaker 1: through your force of nature, have just made possible what

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Speaker 5: Thank you' not just me, but thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: Have something to say about that, but Andrew, before I

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Speaker 1: Well, y'all, I was gonna dive in a little bit

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Speaker 1: that it reverberates, not because it spam you, but because

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Speaker 1: these circumstances where our legacy presidents at our legacy HBCUs

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna switch it up real quick, and Angela

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Speaker 1: and Tiff and just say this weekend, regardless of all

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Speaker 1: of the intimidation that the Trump administration was trying to

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Speaker 1: you come out here in protests. Right, people showed up

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Speaker 4: We have two amazing guests joining us. Cornell Belcher is

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Speaker 4: a social scientist poster. He was the poster for both

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Speaker 4: of Obama's elections in two thousand and eight and twenty twelve,

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Speaker 4: and he runs a company, a polling company called Brilliant

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Speaker 4: Brilliant Corners, and he was also one of Andrew's posters,

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Speaker 4: which I did not even realize. And he will He

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Speaker 3: Do you want to tell us about the other guests, Angela, yes, TIV.

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Speaker 5: We're really excited. I know Cornell Belcher better just like you.

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Speaker 5: But Gabrielle White will also join us. They are coming

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Speaker 5: from the Highland Project and they conducted a poll of

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Speaker 4: What I want to talk about is a scary topic,

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Speaker 4: quite frankly, and that is that we appear to be

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Speaker 4: on the precipice of a potential nuclear war. Nations with

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Speaker 4: The United States is a nuclear power. We've been pulled

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Speaker 4: So I want to explore that. But before we get

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Speaker 4: what Angela said about the tour, on what you said, Andrew,

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Speaker 4: and I've been having trouble getting my words together trying

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, can you believe it?

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Speaker 4: But that's okay cause somebody else, somebody else said it

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Speaker 4: better than I could.

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Speaker 3: So let's hear from her.

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Speaker 5: What you are doing with this tour, what the leaders

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Speaker 5: here have been doing with this tour.

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Speaker 8: Is absolutely about giving.

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Speaker 4: Life to those concepts that we were raised with, including

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Speaker 4: self determination, the importance of understanding one's power, and empowering

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Speaker 4: community at the same time.

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Speaker 3: So I congratulate you in front of all the friends.

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Speaker 5: And to everybody, you're.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: I'm mad because the only video I could get my

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Speaker 4: hands on the beginning was cut off. But what Madame

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Speaker 4: Vice President Kamala Harry said at the beginning of that

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Speaker 4: I want to shout out Angela Rye and then you

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Speaker 4: hear the rest of the video. But what she said

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Speaker 4: IEA is the International Atomic Energy Agency, and so they've

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Speaker 4: said that Iran has enriched their uranium. See it needs

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Speaker 4: to be a ninety percent to create a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 4: Where this facility is that they're trying to bomb is

442
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Speaker 4: buried so deep in a mountain like like Wakanda vibranium.

443
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Speaker 4: It is deep, deep, deep deep levels. Israel cannot get

444
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Speaker 4: to that mountain and they are going to try to

445
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Speaker 4: keep bombing. And now basically they have their hands out

446
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Speaker 4: saying America, now we have to go fight this war.

447
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Speaker 4: I just got a problem with this net in y'ahoo

448
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Speaker 4: is a war criminal. This man has to be stopped,

449
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Speaker 4: like he cannot keep doing this shit, and then looking

450
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Speaker 4: at us saying okay, now y'all come get involved. Y'all

451
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Speaker 4: send money, y'all send lives because now Iran first of

452
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Speaker 4: all months ago, Iran said the United States is not

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Speaker 4: our enemy, and we don't know why we're their enemy.

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Speaker 4: We don't hind on beef with you all. Now Iran

455
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Speaker 4: is saying knock if you buck. You keep tweeting all

456
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Speaker 4: these things. Guess what We're not like other nations. We

457
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Speaker 4: will not back down. That is a terrifying thing. Most

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Speaker 4: of the people in Iran do not support the regime.

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Speaker 4: So when you have a regime like that, that's saying

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Speaker 4: we will fell up. If you try something, that's what

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Speaker 4: it feels like. Just put it in lays, that's what

462
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Speaker 4: it feels like. Cross this line if you want to.

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Speaker 4: I am terrified about this. I am so terrified about

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Speaker 4: this because they could be a cornered animal. They can

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Speaker 4: be the negotiator or escalate and they could say no

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Speaker 4: We're gonna escalate because we're tied Israel has been killing

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Speaker 4: our people. We're gonna make this a religious war.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to get the background to the audience

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Speaker 4: and get y'all thoughts about it, because I am pretty

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Speaker 4: concerned that we could really see a nuclear war.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, if you thank you for the breakdown.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the detailed breakdown, I would insert one

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Speaker 1: other I would say provocation by Israel that preceded the

475
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Speaker 1: mass bombing that they have undertaken of late, and that

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Speaker 1: is they sent almost the CIA version in Israel, the

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Speaker 1: version of the CIA in Israel. That's the best way

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Speaker 1: I can put it. But otherwise clandestine organization. They sent

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Speaker 1: clandestine troops into Iran the weekend prior to the negotiations

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Speaker 1: beginning about uh that you referenced before that Trump walked

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Speaker 1: away from from the nation of World, from the from

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Speaker 1: the world that included all industrialized nations democratic nations as

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Speaker 1: a part of that treaty. Those negotiations were to take

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Speaker 1: place over the weekend, and prior to those negotiations taking place,

485
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Speaker 1: Net and Yahoo decides to send their clandestine troops into

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Speaker 1: a sovereign territory of Iran and pretty much took out

487
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Speaker 1: assassinated the top brass of Iranian military leadership.

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Speaker 3: I mean this is scientists.

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Speaker 1: Is that not just a scientist, but military generals, they're

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Speaker 1: air force. I mean, these these were very calculated, I

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Speaker 1: gotta say, probably of a sophistication level that has not

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Speaker 1: been executed by another nation to this point in the world.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why it hasn't been executed by another

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Speaker 1: nation in the world despite their capabilities, is that everyone

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Speaker 1: knows the splatter that comes from that kind of warfare.

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Speaker 1: One when you say it's okay to go into a

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Speaker 1: sovereign nation and do that, and you permit it, you

498
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Speaker 1: also permit it for yourself. That's why sovereigns don't endorse

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Speaker 1: the killing of other sovereign kings and queens. Because you

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Speaker 1: permit a god given sovereign to be assassinated, you invite

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Speaker 1: the same into yourself. So most nations don't carry out

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Speaker 1: those kinds of operations because they don't want the same.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to create a permission structure for the

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Speaker 1: same thing to happen to them. So the reason why

505
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Speaker 1: these layers are so important, in my opinion, is it

506
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Speaker 1: shows not a response to Iran for a specific action.

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Speaker 1: This is a well calculated, well matured It seems to

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Speaker 1: me that the plans that have been on the bookshelves

509
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Speaker 1: for years, if not decades, under net and Yahoo and

510
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Speaker 1: his ultra conservative regime, that they are now because Trump

511
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Speaker 1: has created the permission structure by basically saying, I don't

512
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Speaker 1: care what the hell they do to them, I don't

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Speaker 1: care what I mean that That's pretty much what he

514
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Speaker 1: said about this part of the world out in here

515
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Speaker 1: on this topic. And that is simply to say, this

516
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Speaker 1: is America leadership in the world at its worst. If

517
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Speaker 1: if what is happening in the Middle East doesn't do

518
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Speaker 1: anything else to us, it should hold a mirror up

519
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: to the American people to say that Trump has been

520
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Speaker 1: asleep at the wheel. Countries are going ape shit bombing

521
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Speaker 1: each other, India's you know, experiencing its aggressive tendencies, China

522
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Speaker 1: towards the Taiwanese and the Taiwan's straits.

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Speaker 4: Access that they're forming, Indiana, Russia. I mean, this is

524
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Speaker 4: the you know, don't leave out North Korea, like this

525
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Speaker 4: is a new world order.

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Speaker 1: The United States to decide, Yeah, we used to have

527
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Speaker 1: to give permission for these kinds of things to take place.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean to perpetuate the the you know,

529
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Speaker 1: this sort of big popa role. But what's true is true,

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Speaker 1: and that is the United States has been the global

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Speaker 1: war leader and has set the global war order for

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Speaker 1: the last sixty or some odd years.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't think that order has been perfect.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it is filled with mistaken era. Well, what's

536
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: happening now, the kind of chaos y'all, Tiffany, your right

537
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: to be concerned. I'm absolutely concerned, mostly because I think

538
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: net and Yahoo is going to leave Donald Trump by

539
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Speaker 1: the nose to the American people into a war, which

540
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Speaker 1: I think will help to fracture Trump's space. Who are

541
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: natives at hard They don't want their money going overseas

542
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: and don't want the troops their sous and Donald's going overseas.

543
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Speaker 1: And if Trump preceedes down this line, I think he's

544
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Speaker 1: looking for trouble.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Andrew, I you know again, this is all very

546
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Speaker 4: frightening to me to see what's happening. And I think

547
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: it's not a matter of if we'll get involved, but

548
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Speaker 4: when so, I just thought it was important to talk

549
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 4: about this because news happens and changes so quickly, and

550
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: this is a huge, huge deal. And you know, like Angela,

551
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Speaker 4: you have your hands full with what's happening here in

552
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 4: America and we can't take our eye off that while

553
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 4: around us chaos swirl. So it just feels like because

554
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Speaker 4: people are saying, oh, this is a distraction from what's

555
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 4: happening domestically, and I don't know that this is a distraction,

556
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 4: like this is something right, right, It's not a distraction.

557
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 4: This is something that that requires our attention, and it's

558
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Speaker 4: a manipulative tactic.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I was just gonna say on this point. You know,

560
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 5: this kind of happens for me every time we do this.

561
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Speaker 5: I'm fine with domestic policy. I don't know why, but

562
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 5: foreign policy is always and I talk about on the show,

563
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 5: it's always been harder for me to like absorb and

564
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 5: get it and follow all the players. So I'm sure

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Speaker 5: there are folks at home that feel similarly. I'm glad

566
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Speaker 5: when you're I'll do these, But I would be lying

567
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 5: if I didn't say that part of me is feeling

568
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 5: the angstuff. But ice is on our streets and they're

569
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Speaker 5: trying to create manufacture literally, war on our own streets.

570
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Speaker 5: So how do you tell people to carry both, like

571
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Speaker 5: we can't afford not to carry both. What's the instruction

572
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Speaker 5: or the directive that you would give to some of

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Speaker 5: us who are battling. Well, this feels really present for me,

574
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Speaker 5: and it's right outside my door. It's impacting my neighbors.

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Speaker 5: I'm seeing, I'm hearing about kids being disappeared or their

576
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Speaker 5: parents being disappeared, so they're stranded and holding on to

577
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Speaker 5: teachers as like this cliped that Joy put up yesterday.

578
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Speaker 5: So what do you tell folks that are like, I

579
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Speaker 5: don't know if I could.

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Speaker 4: Do both, I get it, and I'm not asking anybody

581
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Speaker 4: to do both. Just listening to us talk about it

582
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 4: is enough, just so you're aware, because it's nothing that

583
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Speaker 4: we can do on the global stage to stop anything.

584
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Speaker 4: So if you can just be aware that this is happening,

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Speaker 4: the closest I can example I can give is Game

586
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Speaker 4: of Thrones when all the people were fighting, but the

587
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Speaker 4: White Walkers were in regardless. So y'all are fighting over

588
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 4: who's gonna sit on this iron throne, but out there

589
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: in the atmosphere, the White Walkers are coming. So then collectively,

590
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Speaker 4: y'all all had to get together to fight them. That's

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Speaker 4: what it can feel like. And you can make the

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Speaker 4: White Walkers climate change, you can make the White Walkers

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Speaker 4: nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 5: Whatever they are, the White Walkers. But so here's my question,

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Speaker 5: how do we come together? Well, how do we come

596
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Speaker 5: I guess we're not coming together with the White Walkers,

597
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 5: but how do we come together with people who are

598
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 5: seeking our demise right now? How do we come together

599
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 5: with people who are, at least it appears to be

600
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 5: acting like ice even when they're not. We don't have

601
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Speaker 5: any way to verify if these chokes are actually law enforcement,

602
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Speaker 5: which is what they've done since slavery. So how do

603
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Speaker 5: we find ourselves coming together to prepare for an international

604
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 5: onslaught of terror and violence when they are terrorizing us

605
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Speaker 5: currently on these streets. What is the pathway for coming

606
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Speaker 5: together so we can protect the homeland? What's the princess

607
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Speaker 5: for doing that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Angela, first of all, thank you for raising it,

609
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Speaker 1: because I know how true it is, the dissonance that

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Speaker 1: we all feel. That's why I used to bother me

611
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Speaker 1: so much when I would hear thirteen thousand troops killed

612
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Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, right because I got a nephew who's in

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Speaker 1: the Marines, and I have uncles who have served this

614
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Speaker 1: country and an uncle who lost his life serve in

615
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Speaker 1: this country. So the dissidence actually isn't dissidents at all.

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Speaker 1: The only reason why we can create separation is because

617
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Speaker 1: we now have an all voluntary military versus where all

618
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Speaker 1: of us could be conscripted into service in this country.

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Speaker 1: The end of the conscription allowed a lot of us

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Speaker 1: to just turn our heads away from what was happening

621
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Speaker 1: outside of our quote unquote geographical boundaries. But our sons,

622
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Speaker 1: our daughters, our cousins, our nieces and nephews and uncles

623
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Speaker 1: when they get central broad into these senseless wars. I

624
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Speaker 1: remember Obama talking about I have to be able to

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Speaker 1: explain to a mother, a father, or sister or brother,

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Speaker 1: a daughter, a son, why I sent his father or

627
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Speaker 1: mother to death.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: So it may be an expansion on the warfare that

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Speaker 1: we're experiencing on the home front, but these international entrapments,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that's the direction we're heading

632
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Speaker 1: here with us on the topic that we just raised.

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Speaker 1: This is our children's future, literally those who are in service.

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Speaker 1: And then secondarily, the amount of money that we're gonna

635
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Speaker 1: spend there. Imagine how much the United States Congress is

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Speaker 1: going to try to claw back and domestic programming and

637
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Speaker 1: programming to assist middle class and striving and working class

638
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: families and poor kids. They're gonna try and claw all

639
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 1: that back because they let Net and Yahoo lead them

640
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Speaker 1: by the nose into a war that cost us in

641
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Speaker 1: treasure but more importantly cost us in lives. So I

642
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: would just I don't want the conscription back, but I

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Speaker 1: would love for us to engage in these kinds of

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Speaker 1: conversations and the full awareness that American bodies are online.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and just to your to back you up on that,

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Speaker 4: Andrew again, I'm not even asking people to do anything.

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Speaker 4: I think if the only thing you do is listen

648
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Speaker 4: to us and understand, Oh, this is real serious, what's

649
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 4: happening on the global stags, that's enough. Never in history

650
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Speaker 4: have we been asked to consume so much information and

651
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Speaker 4: care about it all. That's how we end up caring

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00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 4: about nothing because it becomes too much. I think right now,

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Speaker 4: if you are focused on ices on these streets and

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Speaker 4: they're coming in masked men are on behalf of the

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Speaker 4: United States government are disappearing people. We are looking again

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Speaker 4: at state sponsored violence that black folks know all too

657
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Speaker 4: well because we never had a reprieve from it. We

658
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Speaker 4: never had any relief. So when we see mass men,

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Speaker 4: and I think we can't ignore the fact that a

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Speaker 4: mass man showed up at two lawmakers' homes and attempted

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Speaker 4: to kill them, was successful in the case of the

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Speaker 4: former state House speaker and her husband, and was almost

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Speaker 4: successful with a host of other people, not just the

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Speaker 4: two people he shot, but he showed up at other

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Speaker 4: people's homes with the intention of killing him. So you

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Speaker 4: think about that, and then think about and we also

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Speaker 4: have mass men showing up to courtrooms, kidnapping people, showing

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Speaker 4: up to people's homes, kidnapping them, stopping people on the streets,

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Speaker 4: kidnapping them, showing them to their jobs, kidnapping them. How

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Speaker 4: do I know that you are even entitled to And

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Speaker 4: they are arresting which they do not have the right

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Speaker 4: to do. They are arresting democratic office holders, as we

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Speaker 4: just saw this week in New York with the city

674
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Speaker 4: comptroller who happens to be running for mayor. I just

675
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Speaker 4: not have the authority to arrest the United States citizens.

676
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Speaker 4: When he said that I had to look that up

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Speaker 4: to make sure that's you. They don't have that authority.

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Speaker 4: So we are looking at if there is a through line,

679
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Speaker 4: we're looking at a potential war with authoritarian regimes while

680
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Speaker 4: at home, and authoritarian regime is taking over our country.

681
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 4: The irony and hypocrisy right exactly. So everything is on fire.

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Speaker 4: So my recommendation is, get a bucket of water and

683
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Speaker 4: throw it at whatever you can. It doesn't have to

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Speaker 4: be Iran and the nukes. It don't have to be Ice,

685
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 4: if it's just cleaning up your neighborhood, if it's just

686
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Speaker 4: going to the school board meeting making sure they don't

687
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Speaker 4: cancel books or cancel history class, or whatever you can do.

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Speaker 4: Because I don't even know how we stop this, friend,

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Speaker 4: Sheherylyn Eiffel, Yes, Sherilyn Eiffel Well, who is of course

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Speaker 4: the former head of the naacp ODF. She acknowledged, I

691
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Speaker 4: don't know that we can stop any of this. I

692
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Speaker 4: don't have a path for it, but I know that

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Speaker 4: we have to fight. And she said indifference is obedience

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Speaker 4: in advance, and.

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Speaker 3: That just stuck with me.

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Speaker 4: So if you might be able to kill me, but

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Speaker 4: I promise you I'm gonna fight to the death before

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Speaker 4: I just lay down and die in whatever capacity I can.

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Speaker 1: That's my people did this weekend TIF all over the country. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they said, threatening if you want, this is a democracy.

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Speaker 3: And all empires fall. I do feel like we're looking

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Speaker 3: at the fall of an empire.

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Speaker 4: But for we march right on the other side of

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Speaker 4: this break, there is brand new data that is a

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Speaker 4: snapshot of how black women are feeling right now.

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Speaker 6: We're going to dig into that on the other side.

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Speaker 6: Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 4: I am so thrilled to be joined by these guests.

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Speaker 4: We have Madame Gabrielle Wyatt joined by Zaddy with a

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Speaker 4: z coroneller.

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Speaker 3: That it was.

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Speaker 5: Why didn't we just walk into Andrew?

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Speaker 1: I mean, this thing drops at eleven a m my mother,

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Speaker 1: I'm stating.

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Speaker 5: My continuing the whole fair from.

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Speaker 7: Y'all.

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Speaker 3: Don't know the Native had a whole bop.

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Speaker 5: After Dark apparently dark uncut.

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Speaker 4: But on a serious note, these two teamed up and

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Speaker 4: did an amazing poll on how black women feel after

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Speaker 4: the election.

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Speaker 3: This is speaking right to my heart.

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Speaker 4: I'm writing something on this right now, so I'm really

724
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Speaker 4: I was really thrilled to look at the slides and

725
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Speaker 4: I Angela had the great idea to have you both

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Speaker 4: on together. Lauren, our executive producer, put these slides on

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00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 4: our radar, and so I'm just really happy to have

728
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Speaker 4: you both on the show today. And before we get started,

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Speaker 4: this may be a little strange, but I'm looking at you, Gabrielle,

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Speaker 4: and it is reminding me of someone we we lost.

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Speaker 4: But you have a striking, uncanny resemblance. You already know

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Speaker 4: what I'm going.

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Speaker 3: To say, probably to Ananda Luis. The resemblance is there.

734
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Speaker 4: You obviously get that a lot because you're nodding, but

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Speaker 4: you're you're beautiful for the people who are listening.

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Speaker 3: You're very beautiful. But yeah, I see that resemblance there.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Thank you for bringing her into this space too.

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Speaker 4: Yes, our I p to her. We we love she

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Speaker 4: was such a beautiful person in all of our.

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Speaker 7: Are Like Denzel, I'm not going to say was understood.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't need to be said. I can I can I

743
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Speaker 4: say really quickly though we started okay, wait because this

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Speaker 4: is but this is a good story.

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Speaker 3: Denzel Uh in the.

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Speaker 4: Movie he was playing like a terrorist UH safe house

747
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Speaker 4: and he was doing an interview Cornell already knows the story.

748
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Speaker 4: He was doing an interview and they asked him, like,

749
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Speaker 4: who was your inspiration to play this crazy sociopath.

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Speaker 3: Cornell Voucher?

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Speaker 4: He really, he said Cornell, but because he tried to

752
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Speaker 4: do his hair like Cornell, so he like had his

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Speaker 4: hair out in salt and pepper. He literally Cornell all

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Speaker 4: with the influencer.

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Speaker 7: Look, I know psycho path right, that's that's really cool, I.

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Speaker 5: Might say sociopath. We love Cortnell. He is brilliantly. We

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Speaker 5: have a lot of data to get into minutes because

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Speaker 5: they got to go. But that was a fifteen minute intro. Okay,

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Speaker 5: I know, Sorry, I can't be trusted anymore, and I

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Speaker 5: really can't. You know, I got a d D. So

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Speaker 5: I was right with you. Okay, So I want I

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Speaker 5: want you all to just to give us the top

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Speaker 5: lines about this poll. Why this poll?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 5: I think black women are probably like, we know how

766
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Speaker 5: we feel, but it's important, I think in so many

767
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Speaker 5: spaces where our voices are not lifted up and elevated

768
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Speaker 5: to bring attention to how we're feeling and how we're responding.

769
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Speaker 5: Because it's not just a despondent this is our feeling.

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Speaker 5: This is what we're this is where we're at. There's

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Speaker 5: also a response happening, so talk about why this poll

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Speaker 5: and why now? Yeah, I can start and Cornell definitely

773
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Speaker 5: jump in.

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Speaker 8: You know, we teamed up beginning in twenty twenty one,

775
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Speaker 8: and it's for the same reason that we said we

776
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 8: were going to keep going this year, which was we

777
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 8: know we are not listened to and centered in data,

778
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Speaker 8: and that it's not just that we're not listened to,

779
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Speaker 8: but our experiences aren't valued holistically nor equally compared to others.

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Speaker 8: And as I think about this moment, many said, Gabrielle Cornell,

781
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Speaker 8: why are you going to do it again?

782
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Speaker 5: We already know how we feel.

783
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Speaker 8: And for me, it was important one in a time

784
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 8: where so much of rasure is happening, that we continue

785
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 8: to build one of the largest archives of the experiences

786
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 8: of black women and not just the day to day

787
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 8: but our dreams and aspirations. That's one of the most

788
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Speaker 8: beautiful parts about this partnership with Cornell, and perhaps most

789
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Speaker 8: unexpected for others to hear, is how many dreams we

790
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 8: have heard over twenty twenty one. And you can first

791
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 8: look at this year and say there's no dreaming happening Gabrielle.

792
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 8: But when I see that black women are continuing to

793
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 8: name that the future is most important for little ones

794
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 8: and we've got to figure this shit out, that is dreaming.

795
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Speaker 8: That's evidence of dreaming. And I would say the second

796
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 8: is the reminder to all of us here and listening

797
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 8: of we're not a monolith. And that's why we had

798
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 8: a responsibility to listen again this year and continue. And

799
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Speaker 8: I hope the way I'm waking up this morning is

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Speaker 8: I hope that as black women read this data, as.

801
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Speaker 5: They hear other stories, that they.

802
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Speaker 8: Remember they're not alone. And so I wake up every

803
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 8: day primarily in rooms like this. Not every black woman

804
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 8: or girl does, And so I hope that when she

805
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 8: reads this and sees that folks their mental health is

806
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 8: worse off, that she knows she's not alone, and how

807
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 8: she's feeling that day too, I love that.

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00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 7: I would say, well, first, I think we ought to

809
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Speaker 7: give big ups to Gabrielle and what she's doing at

810
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Speaker 7: the Highland Produce, because she is making a space for

811
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Speaker 7: women and their voices and their stories, and she's doing

812
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 7: a remarkable She's doing a remarkable job, and the importance

813
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 7: of this is voice. Look, data for me is not

814
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Speaker 7: just data, It is stories. It is people's voices. And Gabrielle,

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Speaker 7: you'll remember from one I think the comments we got

816
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 7: back as we put out the data was a thank

817
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 7: you because from someone who says often I don't feel

818
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 7: my voice is heard or the voice of black women

819
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 7: aren't heard. Right, So this is telling Black women stories

820
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 7: and we are demanding that these stories be heard and

821
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Speaker 7: their voices be heard. And that's what this data is.

822
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Speaker 7: So I hold data is sort of sacred because it

823
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 7: is because it's people. There are people in voices behind

824
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Speaker 7: this data. And look, there's not a lot of organizations

825
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 7: out there, you know, doing large sample sizes of just

826
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Speaker 7: African American women, right. You know you all know this

827
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Speaker 7: because you're all political hacks in some way, shape, form

828
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Speaker 7: or fashion. But in most of these national polls you

829
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Speaker 7: get out, you know, you may have sixty or seven

830
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Speaker 7: the African American women in there, right, so it's not

831
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Speaker 7: a robust sample of African American women, but sort of

832
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 7: really focus on these African American women. And look, the

833
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 7: and we're not in the Highland Group project is not partisan.

834
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Speaker 7: But since the press, since the election, you do have

835
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Speaker 7: a deep sense of from these women and from the

836
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Speaker 7: day to day literally say we feel like we're going

837
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Speaker 7: backwards and the economic angst is real. Look, you know,

838
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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty four, forty percent of African American women

839
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Speaker 7: said that the economic conditions in the country are getting worse. Today,

840
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Speaker 7: that's eighty seven, right, It's near universally felt that by

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Speaker 7: these African American women, that that the overall economy is

842
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Speaker 7: getting worse. Right, and you and in twenty twenty four

843
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Speaker 7: when we did this, you know, you, we had just

844
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Speaker 7: thirty seven percent of African American women saying they felt

845
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Speaker 7: that they were falling behind their economic conditions, they were

846
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Speaker 7: falling behind economically. Now you have a majority of fifty

847
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 7: seven percent of African American women say that they are

848
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Speaker 7: falling behind economically. Right, So we have a tremendous shift

849
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Speaker 7: of what's happening with African American women. And as Gabrielle

850
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 7: talked about, right, we even delved into questions around mental

851
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 7: health and they and they and they and they talk

852
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 7: about sort of how their their mental health is is

853
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 7: worse off now and how so many of them are

854
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 7: pulling back even from from from news sources because quite frankly, uh,

855
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 7: it makes it makes them depressed. So we got to

856
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Speaker 7: give voice to this.

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Speaker 4: I think that's so profound what you said, because you know,

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Speaker 4: this data feels like home to us, because these are

859
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Speaker 4: the conversations that we're having at brunches, in our group

860
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 4: chats when we connect and convene, and certainly right here

861
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Speaker 4: on Native lampod we've revisited this. Why the focus on

862
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 4: black women as opposed to black men? And if you

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Speaker 4: have done any of that kind of research, Cornell, which

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Speaker 4: I imagine you have, is there a lot of daylight

865
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Speaker 4: between us and our beloved count parts and their outlook

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Speaker 4: on the country.

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Speaker 7: Well, I can we curse on this podcast? This is

868
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Speaker 7: you know, this is a gross I'm still sick of

869
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Speaker 7: a narrative about so trying to pit African American men

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Speaker 7: versus African American women. Right, if you look at the

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00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 7: history of this, go back to Carter, Right, you have

872
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 7: roughly anywhere between twelve and nineteen percent of African Americans

873
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 7: voting Republican. So you had roughly thirteen fourteen percent of

874
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 7: African Americans voting Republican this past time around. And there's

875
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 7: always a gender gap, right, men vote more Republican than

876
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 7: women do. In every ethnic demographic group there is. You

877
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 7: know who has the smallest difference between how their men

878
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 7: and women vote, Black men. The difference between how black

879
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 7: men and Black women vote as less than five points.

880
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 7: That is, that is the lowest. That that's the lowest

881
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 7: there is. But it's ideal that somehow, you know, black

882
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 7: men are behaving dramatically different than than than the Black

883
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 7: women in their community. We're both seeing the threats to

884
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 7: our community and we're both frustrated with what's happening politically.

885
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 7: I think is I think it's a it's a it's

886
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 7: it's a narrative that I think is it's it's diabolical,

887
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 7: and we've got to push We've got to push back

888
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 7: on it. I'm less worried about you know, thirteen or

889
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 7: fourteen percent of African American men voting Republican that I

890
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 7: am the forty percent who just are so discouraged by

891
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 7: politics and part and and that nothing changes that they

892
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 7: don't turn out. That's the difference between winning elections and

893
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 7: losing elections. Not between two three percent difference between how

894
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 7: Black men and Black women vote. It is the overwhelming

895
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 7: lack of turnout that we've been seeing among younger voters

896
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 7: and also voters of color, which quite frankly cost Harris

897
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 7: the election a lot more so than this ideal that

898
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 7: somehow we got to win back working class white people,

899
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 7: non college white people, by the way, a group that

900
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 7: has not broken for Democrats in any real way in

901
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 7: three or four in three or four decades. And you

902
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 7: know what percentage of non college white men, non college

903
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 7: white voters, Harris Scott got the same percentage that that

904
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 7: Biden did on his way to winning. Right, that's not

905
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 7: the that's not the focus. We've got to energize and

906
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 7: mobilize and bring these people into the process.

907
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: It perpetuates a narrative that the working class is white

908
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: or right exactly, Sorry, I interrupted, do you go.

909
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: In No, no, no, I just I'm glad that the Accordnell.

910
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: One of the things I reflect on when I think

911
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,959
Speaker 1: about the twenty and twenty four election is how many

912
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: black men actually feel proud to finally be able to

913
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: be asked the question about what they thought and what

914
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: they believed. And I think some of that started to

915
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: then deepen sort of this narrative that black men are

916
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: here and black women are there and I think that's

917
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: one of the things that this study helps to kind

918
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: of go directly to the point, which is you need

919
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: to know what black women think, and not just so

920
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: that they can end up in your speech, but so

921
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: that your public policy starts to reflect some of these concerns.

922
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: And I wonder who should we want to be hearing

923
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: from right now and quoting you all's brilliant work when

924
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: it comes to the public policy agenda that is going

925
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: to put progressive thinkers like myself back in charge because

926
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: all I hear is an anti Trump narrative, and I

927
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: can't wait for the construction of why don't we take

928
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: our best assets right? The folks who win, they're not

929
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: with us, drag Whoever the Democrat is at the helm right,

930
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: their pole numbers shatter when black women and black men

931
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: aren't there. So do you feel a sense of an

932
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 1: early formation of that? What does the take back agenda

933
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: look like for this country if it doesn't include hook

934
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: line and sinker, which you all have identified here as

935
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: the highest priority concerns that black women are reflecting, which

936
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: I would say also encompasses what black men often think about.

937
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 7: I want to say that I'm gonna throw it to

938
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 7: Gabriel because I want black women to talk more than

939
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 7: than than than black men about this, about this. But

940
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 7: but black power starts with black women. It just does, right.

941
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 7: There is no black power movement in this country without

942
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 7: black women being upfront and and making that happen, because

943
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 7: they are the most likely, they're they're most they're far

944
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 7: more likely to vote. And this is what I tell

945
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 7: any campaign, y'all.

946
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 5: Cut that clip.

947
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 7: I tell any campaign, and you know this from your

948
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 7: even campaign, like if if black women, if black women

949
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 7: galvanize around you, the community will follow right so first

950
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 7: and foremost for anyone out there. And I tell Cann

951
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 7: this all this time. You know, if if, if you,

952
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 7: if black women get behind you, the community will will follow.

953
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 7: And so I think that's so important to centralize this

954
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 7: ideal of black power. I'm sorry, guys, but it does

955
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 7: have to be centralized black black women because they are

956
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 7: voting in such higher, high, higher, higher numbers and turning

957
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 7: out in so much higher numbers. And women, by the way,

958
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 7: you're the you're more, you're the majority. It's not us men.

959
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, Geb. I'm gonna start talking now.

960
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, I'll listen to you. My brother, I would

961
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 8: say that what's been on my mind is what Cornell

962
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 8: didn't mention, was like, everyone is naming that this is

963
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 8: an unfair and rig system when we look at this

964
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 8: data and we know that that is true on the

965
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 8: other side, not only for black men, but my hunters,

966
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 8: for the majority of Americans. And I share that because

967
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 8: one of the reasons we started this journey was so

968
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 8: many funders were saying to me that wealth is only

969
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 8: about becoming a billionaire. And I said, that's not true,

970
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 8: and I'm going to prove it. I'm going to prove

971
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 8: it to you that wealth is more than currency. And

972
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 8: when I look at the last five years, black women

973
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 8: have named an expansive vision of wealth. They said, it's

974
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 8: about choice. We want choice beyond a zero sum game.

975
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 8: We want financial freedom, we want belonging, and we want

976
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 8: thriving health. And I'm naming those pieces because I think

977
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 8: a lot of Americans, perhaps I eagerly I think this

978
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 8: want those four same things and are pointing to an

979
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 8: unfair and rig system as one of the leading causes.

980
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 8: I think that in this moment, it's a mistake for

981
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 8: any leader, regardless of politic regardless of sector, to look

982
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 8: at what we heard and think that black women are

983
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 8: showing up in the same way. Because we heard that

984
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 8: a majority of fifty five percent of black women and

985
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 8: are naming we have to fight for our rights and

986
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 8: build a future. Yes, we are naming that, but we're

987
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 8: building very differently right And so I think I'm curious

988
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 8: Cornell and I are in a conversation last week where

989
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 8: a sister of ours said, because I'm not putting money

990
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 8: forward in a campaign in the same way that I

991
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 8: did before, and so I'm naming that because I think

992
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 8: of risk in looking at this information is that folks

993
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 8: remain comfortable that they make the assumption that Black women

994
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 8: are showing up in the same way when they see

995
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 8: that data point. And I think that that would be

996
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 8: a poor decision for anyone in their seem to make

997
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 8: or core.

998
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: Is there optimism out there? Do you have optimism that

999
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: some folks are catching the give us the early tea

1000
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: leaves of how the data's landed with the donor class

1001
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: and the leading class, who often frankly go to data

1002
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: to shape their framework of how to move forward.

1003
00:53:54,840 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 5: Cautiously optimistic, and in a moment I will make consciously optimistic.

1004
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 8: I think that what feels different this year is that

1005
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 8: we can show scale, that we're showing scale and the

1006
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 8: lived experiences, and that we're freaking consistent as black women.

1007
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 8: We're not all of a sudden naming that we're concerned

1008
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 8: about the future. We're not all the sudden becoming folks

1009
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 8: who are about rooted in love, rooted injustice, rooted.

1010
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 5: And fairness right.

1011
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 8: And I'm naming that because in the world I sit

1012
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 8: in of watching philanthropy ping pong words around and strategies

1013
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 8: around right now, which is part of the reason why

1014
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 8: we're in this mess is we, as long as black women,

1015
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 8: have always taken an emergent view of the future. And

1016
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 8: so I think that's where I have cautious optimism, is

1017
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 8: that the funder class is seeing consistency, seeing consistency, that

1018
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 8: the same values are leading our work, seeing consistency that

1019
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 8: we are not just human beings who are survivors, but

1020
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 8: human beings who want to thrive and have stories of thriving,

1021
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 8: and we're going to get there. I'm curious there seems

1022
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 8: to be this narrative that you know, black women, by extension,

1023
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 8: black folks we mine in our business. You know that

1024
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 8: we are like wiping our hands, We're done with this place.

1025
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 8: It's anecdotal.

1026
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 4: We see that in comments on our respective social medias

1027
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 4: and certainly in Native Land as a whole. I've seen

1028
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 4: maybe black faces who might be less connected to the

1029
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 4: community regurgitate this narrative on air, and I'm curious, as

1030
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 4: I look at your data, it seems to poke holes

1031
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 4: in that theory.

1032
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 3: Can you talk to that?

1033
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 8: This was one of our favorite co collaborations of last yours.

1034
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 8: Cornell and I wanted to unpack the meme of black

1035
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 8: women sitting on the building right with the fire behind us,

1036
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 8: And so that's why we ask the question right of

1037
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 8: like the world's on fire, are you moving or are

1038
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 8: you resting? And so that's where we heard the majority

1039
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 8: of fifty five percent are naming. No, We're focused on

1040
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 8: protection and building. But I think what's been unique in

1041
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 8: the community conversations we've had since releasing the data is

1042
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 8: the nuance behind what does it mean to continue to build?

1043
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 8: And so you are here, I hear every day the

1044
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 8: leaders that I serve name. I didn't react to immediately

1045
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 8: go to a protest this time because I'm actually saving

1046
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 8: my energy for this marathon of X right and so

1047
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 8: I think that the lesson learned and that our community

1048
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 8: holds sacred is that if Black women aren't sustained, our

1049
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 8: homes aren't sustained, our communities aren't sustained. And so when

1050
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 8: we say rest, I believe that in that fifty five percent,

1051
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 8: women are also resting. But they're resting not from a

1052
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 8: definition of opting out. They're resting from my coach said

1053
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 8: to me the other day. You rest so that your

1054
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 8: nervous system can actually make meaning and actually dream again

1055
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 8: and have the power again, the energy again to pursue change.

1056
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 8: And so I think it's nuanced when you go to

1057
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 8: the layers beneath of the choices folks are making so

1058
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 8: that they can show up more holly for the future

1059
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 8: they really believe in, instead of getting called to city

1060
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 8: Hall every day to stand outside with the sign.

1061
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah I think, I know you'll have a hard out,

1062
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 1: but I have. Oh I'm sorry, go no please.

1063
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 7: I was going to go really quickly because I want

1064
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 7: to reinforce what Gabrielle is saying there, but I also

1065
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 7: want to bring in that I'm suspicious of this narrative. Also,

1066
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 7: I'm suspicious of what's driving this narrative because I see

1067
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 7: it on social media all the time, and it is

1068
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 7: like Black people need to pull back and pull out

1069
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 7: and not be a part of the sort of process

1070
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 7: as a plow conversation, and we just need to let

1071
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 7: the world, you know, move without without us. You know, yes,

1072
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 7: we need rest. But also listen, no one on this

1073
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 7: this this stream right now would would be here if

1074
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 7: if if our grandmothers are our grand great grandmothers said

1075
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 7: you know what, we're we're going to pull back from

1076
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 7: the world because because of racism or because of any

1077
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 7: of these isms. And certainly we all know that the

1078
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 7: black community is the is the canarian the coal mine.

1079
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 7: Right We've generation upon generations of Black women and black

1080
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 7: men who've had to fight and choose a lesser of

1081
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 7: two evils and navigate this landscape. And so I'm also

1082
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 7: so I'm I'm for rest, but I'm also a little

1083
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 7: suspicious of who's of some of the some of what's

1084
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 7: been happening with this narrative, because I think it's self

1085
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 7: defeating and I think it plays in the hands of

1086
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Speaker 7: the enemies of our community and the other sort of

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Speaker 7: the thing that's the thing striking about this data is

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Speaker 7: is in Gabrielle Backman. This is like, well, fifty seven

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Speaker 7: percent of African American women say that they experienced racism

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Speaker 7: often in their lives. That's just start startling. And and

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Speaker 7: you know, and and and racism and discrimination is one

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Speaker 7: of their top obstacles they name as one of the

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Speaker 7: top obstacles to getting ahead or or or or or freedom.

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Speaker 7: So we're faced with, as we know, this existential racist

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Speaker 7: threat from that from white nationalism right now. So I

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Speaker 7: really question this idea of where some of this is

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Speaker 7: coming from. Is ideal that, Okay, we just got to

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Speaker 7: pull back from the world right now when the world

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Speaker 7: when when white nationalism is on the march, it's kind

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Speaker 7: of we've got to pull back from the world right now.

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Speaker 1: Right Yeah, And whose algorithms are keeping that feed going?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: Who's in charge of that narrative being? But I know

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Speaker 1: who is probably in charge of this color scheme of

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Speaker 1: this poll. And I'm curious to know what inspired this

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Speaker 1: ivy green and very blush pink.

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Speaker 3: Uh this is.

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Speaker 8: And I have come because we used to operate in

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Speaker 8: his power points and this year.

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Speaker 5: We're in Canaba and launched.

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Speaker 8: If you go to our Instagram, you'll see we actually

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Speaker 8: have no graphs at all the beautiful artwork that juxtapposes

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Speaker 8: the grief with black girl joy.

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Speaker 3: So thank you for poting that out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I thought, I thought, uh, Vice Presid Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris with particularly appreciate Yeah, uh the schematics here. But

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Speaker 1: but y'all are y'all are really honing in on some

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Speaker 1: important work. And I just I hope that it continues

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Speaker 1: to reverberate and lift and almost past Donor class because

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of over it. I was in the pitching

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Speaker 1: world for a very long time and it made me

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Speaker 1: sick that this room of of of aging largely white

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Speaker 1: liberals who were well intentioned and you know to the

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Speaker 1: extent that that yeah toward their giving, but oftentimes took

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Speaker 1: a very sort of where the parent in the room

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Speaker 1: approach to what's important, what isn't important, what elected is

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Speaker 1: the right one, which one isn't. But that hopefully this

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Speaker 1: data continues, and I know it to be true because

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Speaker 1: I live with a black woman who is at an

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Speaker 1: organizational meeting practically every night right doing something for an

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Speaker 1: organization that builds her and our family and strengthen us

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Speaker 1: and girds us up. So almost time out for the poohbahs.

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Speaker 1: Let the people you know accelerate this thing. And I

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Speaker 1: appreciate y'all putting that narrative really front and center your voices.

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Speaker 1: They don't decide that it matters, they matter because y'all matter. Period.

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Speaker 4: Enough said, I love that Well will certainly make these

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Speaker 4: slides available. They will definitely be referenced in what I'm writing.

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Speaker 4: So I appreciate you both. And it's a reunion here.

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Speaker 4: We're so excited to welcome you into the folds, Gab.

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Speaker 4: But I also all of us, Angela, Andrew, and I

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01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 4: have either.

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Speaker 3: Worked with or for.

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Speaker 4: Again, I'm not gonna do as anything, but I'm just

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01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 4: saying we all have a relationship with Cornell. I worked

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Speaker 4: for Cornell in the two thousand and seven during the administration.

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Speaker 3: Cornell was just.

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01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 4: Yes, Cornelle got Obama elected. But also, Andrew, you worked

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Speaker 4: with Cornell on your campaign. Angela, you've worked with Cornell,

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Speaker 4: so it's just.

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Speaker 7: Nice to me that campaign. That's how that's just let's

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01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,439
Speaker 7: this is yeah, this is that's how black power, black

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01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 7: politics is supposed to work.

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Speaker 4: Yes, as as a wise man on this podcast might say,

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01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 4: you have to be.

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01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 3: Nation, so we are all nation. We are all nations.

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Speaker 4: So thank you guys for doing this beautiful, insightful piece

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Speaker 4: of work. May it spread wide. Like I said, it

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01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 4: would certainly be referenced here, and I'm gonna personally pull

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Speaker 4: some of these slides and explore them deeper and will

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Speaker 4: follow up with you all directly if I have any

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Speaker 4: more questions. This is great, but it's really a great

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Speaker 4: service you're providing to not just black women, but people

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Speaker 4: with an intellectual curiosity about their fellow countrymen, white folks,

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Speaker 4: please tune.

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Speaker 3: In Jesus right, anybody who's running a campaign.

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Speaker 4: You know, it was sad that there were people who

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Speaker 4: had to run a shadow operation on the Kamala Harris

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Speaker 4: campaign to reach some of these demographics. And to your point, Andrew,

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Speaker 4: this donor class that is largely white and male, it

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Speaker 4: is time to be disrupted. As is the narrative that

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Speaker 4: black women are sitting home getting manicures while the world burns.

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Speaker 4: None of that is true. The devil is a lie.

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Speaker 4: As they said, Yeah, yeah, welcome. Thank you guys for

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Speaker 4: taking time out of your busy schedules joining us. This

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01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,919
Speaker 4: is great and we look forward to welcome you all

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Speaker 4: both back soon.

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Speaker 3: Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 5: Thank you all.

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Speaker 1: This doesn't have to be recorded, but I do think

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Speaker 1: I agree with Cornell on you know, women have always

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Speaker 1: sort of been forbearers in our community as a relations

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01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: sort of set in the tone, but it also disregards

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Speaker 1: the structural ways in which men have been taken out

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Speaker 1: Where black men were working, they were leading, they were assisting,

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Speaker 1: they were partners, they were going through the ballot with

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Speaker 1: their with their spouses and family members, and that threat

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01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: right that the that then got diagnosed by the government

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Speaker 1: and by white supremacists then created a structure that systematically

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Speaker 1: removed us from Yes.

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Speaker 9: So that's not to take anything away, it's simply to

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Speaker 9: say that that that reality exists not only because but

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Speaker 9: also so in part to the fact that black men

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Speaker 9: have been structurally leveled.

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Speaker 4: I think that's such a great point that you bring up.

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Speaker 4: Their policies were an impediment to our partnership and our

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Speaker 4: love in the nineteen seventies when they essentially expelled black

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Speaker 4: men from the home, particularly for impoverished black women who

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Speaker 4: needed support right, who needed support, who were oppressed, who

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Speaker 4: had been laid off, who had been routinely victimized by

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Speaker 4: this country. They said, okay, we'll give you a few coins,

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Speaker 4: but you got to kick that man out the house.

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Speaker 4: We cannot give you support. With the rise of you know,

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Speaker 4: the different movements, you know, the Black Panther movement where

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01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 4: they jailed entire generations of thought leaders, thinkers, doers, act

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Speaker 4: of this geniuses. Even in the nineteen eighties when the

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Speaker 4: CIA morphed in the Nino Brown and pumped drugs into

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Speaker 4: our communities and destroyed our men, and then the nineteen

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Speaker 4: ninety these when they gave us mandatory minimum. So I

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Speaker 4: hear you, and I know that black men have been

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Speaker 4: most certainly uh just disrespected, oppressed, uh murdered by the state,

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Speaker 4: a bunch of things.

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Speaker 1: So and those who survive it should be you know,

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Speaker 1: like you actually are surviving something. You're surviving a set

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Speaker 1: of structures, just as black women are structures that are

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Speaker 1: on your collapse. They're designed for.

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Speaker 5: Us, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeahiating And even but even before that, because you're

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Speaker 4: the father of two boys, even that, the idea of

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01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 4: how we treat our we started out young. We banish

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Speaker 4: our boys to remedial classes who don't need to be there,

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01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 4: and we you know, fund and fill this school to

1222
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 4: prison pipeline. So from from prisons to to pedagogy, we

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01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 4: are setting some black men up for failure. So we

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Speaker 4: do not ever want to overlook that. But what I

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01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 4: would say though, to our beloved others out there, is

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Speaker 4: just because something is celebrating Black women, because we so

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01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 4: often feel the least loved, it does not mean is

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Speaker 4: putting down black men, like let us have our love,

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Speaker 4: you know if we say something like and I know

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Speaker 4: you do all the time, Andrew, But there's a whole

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Speaker 4: host of people out there who are so traumatized, who

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Speaker 4: are in so much pain, who are so hurt, and

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Speaker 4: they listen to these podcasts bros. And they ascribe to

1234
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 4: these very toxic belief systems. They feel entitled to women

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01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 4: who you know, they they have not earned, and it

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01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 4: just creates for a toxic landscape of our love. And

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Speaker 4: the only thing that we that gave us the tools

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Speaker 4: to survive this four hundred plus year or nightmare was

1239
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 4: the love we have for each other. And right now

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01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 4: policies are DISTI descentivizing, disincentivizing that love. And so I

1241
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 4: think it's such a wise point that you brought up,

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01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 4: and we have to acknowledge the political infrastructure that harmed us.

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01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 4: We should maybe talk about this a little bit on

1244
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 4: the mini pod. I know we said leadership, but then

1245
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:06,959
Speaker 4: we have love and I kind of feel like these

1246
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 4: two intersect the bit.

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Speaker 5: So when we come back from this break, we're going

1248
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 5: to get into our calls to action. If you like

1249
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 5: that interview, though, please make sure you hit us with

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Speaker 5: the five stars and like and subscribe. Take your mama,

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01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 5: tell your friends, tell all of them. Hi, guys, I'm back.

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Speaker 5: I would love for you all to if you watch

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Speaker 5: this show on Juneteenth. By the way, happy Juneteenth week,

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Speaker 5: Freedom Day Week for all of us. We would love

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Speaker 5: for you to join us in Baltimore. If you're not

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Speaker 5: going to hear this in time, because Tiffany will be

1257
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 5: mad if I don't say that you don't hear it

1258
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Speaker 5: in time, then please make sure that you log onto

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Speaker 5: Stateoftheppo dot com and check out our more than thirty

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Speaker 5: black papers Shout out to doctor David Johns, who's runn

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Speaker 5: our black Papers Policy Initiative. Y'all, I printed everything out.

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Speaker 5: We're at six hundred and seventy four pages and so

1263
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 5: take it in bite size. There's a reason why we

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01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 5: release them two by two and three by three. We

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01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 5: want you to slowly look at them all. They're very digestible,

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Speaker 5: written for an eighth grade reading level. But still, if

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Speaker 5: you don't feel seen or hurt, holler at us at hello,

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Speaker 5: at STATEUFDEPPL dot com. And speaking of hollering at us,

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Speaker 5: my other call to action is, we don't have nary

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Speaker 5: a listening question this week, and Tiff is going to

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01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 5: say it's because we haven't been answering and listening questions.

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Speaker 5: So I want y'all to send in your comments and

1273
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 5: your questions. And if you agree with me that you

1274
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 5: trying to figure out how we gonna handle what's going

1275
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,759
Speaker 5: on domestically. So you a little foggy about international affairs,

1276
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,759
Speaker 5: holler at me so I know I'm not by myself

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01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 5: that's on my CDAs.

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Speaker 1: And then say I know why it's relevant.

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Speaker 9: Or not.

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Speaker 1: Maybe My CTA, y'all is when we make a demand,

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Speaker 1: let's follow it all the way through times a conclusion

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01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: so that demand might be you know, already decided, already declared.

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Speaker 1: I know people who thought they knew the conclusion to

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01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: some stories, uh, and so they let their foot off

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01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: the gas. You just never know what can happen if

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01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: you're if you are in this and if in case

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Speaker 1: it's a mystery of FAMU is on my mind. Our

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01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 1: HBCUs are on my mind. They may be in the

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Speaker 1: positions of power to do what they want to do

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Speaker 1: at this time, but I want to underscore at this

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Speaker 1: time because so long as there is still time, there's

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Speaker 1: still another battle to be waged. And I like, I understand,

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Speaker 1: I'm a respectable person. I understand respectability politics. But when

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Speaker 1: the moment shifts and our communities in our country like

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Speaker 1: it has right now, I think our disposition has to

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Speaker 1: shift as well. So I was just as folks, instead

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Speaker 1: of criticizing the people who are going hard for their demand,

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Speaker 1: that if you make a demand, that you stand in

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Speaker 1: that demand and you fight like hell to see it met.

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Speaker 1: The damn to be honest with you with respectability.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: I love that I had another call to action, but

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Speaker 4: it's too long, so I think I might save it

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Speaker 4: for the mini pod. And now I feel bad because

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Speaker 4: the call to action I have left is pretty selfish

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Speaker 4: because it's all about me. My call to action is

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Speaker 4: my friend Jackie Reid. You guys, remember Jackie. It's like

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Speaker 4: the first black woman I saw doing news for us

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Speaker 4: by us, so I was a fan before she became

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Speaker 4: a friend.

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Speaker 3: But she is.

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Speaker 4: She never tells anyone her age, so I'm gonna guess

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Speaker 4: that Jackie's thirty five, even though that would make her

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Speaker 4: ten years younger than me. But she looks amazing and

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Speaker 4: she's into wellness, and she is a vegan, and so

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Speaker 4: she has convinced me to try to go vegan.

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Speaker 3: I'm not. I have not done it yet. I'm inching

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Speaker 3: my way there.

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Speaker 4: We both love love, love animals, and I'm just I've

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Speaker 4: never been like a big meat eater anyway. So my

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Speaker 4: call to action is words of encouragement, ideas for all

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Speaker 4: of you all out there who are vegans. Have great

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Speaker 4: vegan recipes, like how do you go through life without

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Speaker 4: using any animal products? Which I'm completely open to. The

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Speaker 4: One thing I think I miss immensely I would miss

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Speaker 4: is cheese. I love cheese. So like, what do you

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Speaker 4: do if you if you go vegan? Just give me

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Speaker 4: any thoughts and ideas y'all have that vegan life because

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Speaker 4: a lot of I love seeing all these black folks

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Speaker 4: who are growing their own vegetables and these amazing recipes.

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Speaker 4: Oyster mushrooms are so good, like all the stuff y'all

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Speaker 4: are doing, So put me on game.

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Speaker 3: That's that's my.

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Speaker 1: Finding our restaurants when we travel. I'm good.

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Speaker 4: I consider everybody's dietary preferences and so I am always

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Speaker 4: happy to be in charge of food when we leave. Also,

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to lose some weight, so the vegan, but

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Speaker 4: vegan doesn't mean you lose weight.

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Speaker 3: You can still.

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Speaker 5: Heavy heavy on the carbs being vegan. Mostly I gained

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Speaker 5: weight se because rise. That's it's hard. The protein pieces. Yes,

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Speaker 5: they try to make me seem like you can use

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Speaker 5: butterfly pee powder.

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Speaker 1: You can. My mama raised me.

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Speaker 3: I like, I like.

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Speaker 5: Drink, But you're not about eats and cheap peas every day.

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Speaker 3: It's I'm not. I'm not, this is true.

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Speaker 4: But I do go weeks without fish, so I think

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Speaker 4: I could give a fish.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know what else like. I don't miss

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01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 3: meat at all. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to y'all thoughts anyway. This is why

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Speaker 4: I need you all to tell a friend about this show,

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01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 4: because I'm sure there are a whole lot of Eagans

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Speaker 4: out there who have not yet discovered native lamp.

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Speaker 3: Pods game so they can put me on game.

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Speaker 4: So tell your friends and for all y'all who do listen,

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Speaker 4: please be sure. I know y'all listen, but make sure

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Speaker 4: you subscribe because that way you get these episodes already

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Speaker 4: downloaded in those phones. And when you pick up that

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Speaker 4: phone and text that man, you know you ain't got

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01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 4: no business texting and you see, oh you know what,

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Speaker 4: never mind because it's a new episode of Native Lamp Pod.

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Speaker 4: So I could listen to that instead of texting his

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Speaker 4: dusty ass. You'll give me some encouragement in that area too.

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Speaker 5: You want toes we see and keep your the non dusties,

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Speaker 5: We love you. Keep your question Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Welcome home, everybody, and Welcome home.

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Speaker 4: New episodes of Native lamp Pid drop every Thursday. Thank

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Speaker 4: y'all for jumping right on it. When it drops on

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01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 4: Thursdays and Fridays. You can catch our Mini Pod and

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01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 4: Solo pods on Monday and Tuesday is every other Monday

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Speaker 4: for some I don't know, just check and see because

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Speaker 4: the body, the body has taken over. But you can

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Speaker 4: also also want y'all to check out other shows on

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Speaker 4: Reason Choice Media. Check out My Girl Jamil Hills politics.

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Speaker 4: I love Jamil. I think she's like the coolest person.

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Speaker 4: I want to be Jamail sometimes I'm not even gonna

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Speaker 4: lie like I want to talk about sports and I want.

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Speaker 5: To be likedays sports expert. What do you think about

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Speaker 5: what you think about the series?

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Speaker 4: First of all, Lord, I did not know that there

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Speaker 4: was a team in Oklahoma City, So this is yeah, until.

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Speaker 5: This is you know Oklahoma City is in. You know

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Speaker 5: who they're playing against.

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Speaker 4: They are playing against Dick Cheney's Halliburton, who plays for

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Speaker 4: the Pacers. And that's how I remember because I every

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Speaker 4: time I hear Halliburton, I think of Dick Cheney.

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Speaker 3: If you're not old enough, then you know what.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you about your sports expertise and why

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Speaker 5: it matters.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting up there, welcome home.

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Speaker 5: You have a way of connecting people to other dots

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Speaker 5: that they need to know about outside of sports. So

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Speaker 5: when they get your sports expertise, there's this broader experience

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Speaker 5: that they.

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Speaker 1: Have generous with it. You're generous.

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Speaker 5: Nobody asked. It's beautiful, but I love that. Normally, would

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Speaker 5: I try to do get tipped with the gotcha questions?

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Speaker 5: She's ready, So the Pacers said, Okasey, you know who's ahead.

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Speaker 4: I do, but I don't want to ruin it for

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Speaker 4: people who have it on DVR because they might not

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: You're not wanting lines.

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01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 5: Maybe they can just bet on you. You're a betting woman.

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Speaker 5: Who you got in the series?

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Speaker 3: Who has more poems?

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Speaker 7: So?

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Speaker 3: Who has more backing?

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Speaker 1: Who y'all got down there? You got any bodies last week?

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Speaker 4: I don't know I whoever? Whoever got the cutest single daddies.

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Speaker 5: The fact that you said single daddy says just aged

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Speaker 5: just out of this conversation.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, guys, thank you so much for tuning, and don't

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Speaker 4: forget to follow us on social media and subscribe to

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Speaker 4: our text or email us at nativeland dot com. We

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Speaker 4: are your host, Angela Rice If and he crosses Andrew Gill,

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Speaker 4: Welcome home, y'all. There are five hundred in two days

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Speaker 4: until mid term elections.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Andrew for talking to.

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Speaker 7: The whole Welcome people, Welcome home, y'all, ain't welcome morning see.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining the Natives. Attention of what the

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Speaker 2: info and all of the latest Roy Gillem and cross

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Speaker 2: connected to the statements that you leave on our socials.

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Speaker 2: Thank you sincerely for the patients. Reason for your choice

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Speaker 2: is clear, so grateful it took the execute roads. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for serve, defend, and protect the truth even in paint.

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Speaker 2: Welcome home to all of the natives wait.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Native Lampard is a production of iHeart Radio in partnership

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