1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Maller 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at two a m. Eastern eleven pm Pacific. 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: If you thought four hours a day, minutes a week 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants of 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: crackheads in the ghetto Cutter the same as the rich 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: pill poppers in the penthouse the clearing House of Hot 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Ben Maller starts right now. We are in the air 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: everywhere coast to coast, border to border, the vast power 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: of the I Heart podcast Network emanating live from the 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: magic audio boxes we often do here and excited to 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: have you as we begin a new weekend of podcast. 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: And this is one I am very excited about because 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: it's another opportunity to chat with an old radio friend, 16 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: an old radio friend and just bs with a with 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: a buddy of mine from my radio past. And I'm 18 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: excited about that this podcast available eight days a week. 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: We got the radio show five days this Friday Saturday 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: and our Sunday mail bag as well, because four hours 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: clearly not enough on the overnight and it's all made 22 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: possible by cameo dot com unless it's not but cameo 23 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: dot com. I'm on there. You can get a personalized 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: video shout out. I would love to do it for you. 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: It's not free, but it's not much. I'm cheaper than 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: most of the people on there. And Gascon's on there, 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: and he's here right now, there is David Gascon making 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: an appearance as he comes in with his cameo. I'm 29 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm shuffling the analytics around and uh, trying to locate 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: an appropriate time where we can collectively park our asses 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: for Bay versus the Penny every Friday, Yes, afternoon, Yes, yes, 32 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: it will be sometime on Friday. We I'm not sure 33 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: we It's a fluid situation guesst Con, as you know, 34 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: but we will tweet out and put on Facebook and 35 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: all that the exact time once we nailed down to time. 36 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: You think we would know by now, considering this is 37 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: already Friday. But we will let the masses know when 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: when we will partake in the wonderful Benny versus the Pain. 39 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: How are the numbers? Last week? They actually doubled from 40 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: the first week, and so that was solid and we 41 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: did have A couple of people said that they were 42 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: looking for for the link. Um, so I think it's 43 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: always important to reference like your Twitter handle, so because 44 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: you can pin it on your account, I do the same. Um. 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: But yeah, the live interaction was was really good, and 46 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: we're able to throw some of those up there onto 47 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: the to the broadcast. But um, I think they'll come 48 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: a time during the Benny verse of The Penny Show. Today, 49 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to publicly apologize for such a what 50 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: is it lethargic week two? I just well, it was 51 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: not you know, so you're wrong. You don't even know 52 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: the numbers. I know the numbers. The numbers were not great. 53 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: They were industry juicing out you juiced. Yes you've lost 54 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: on the juice, but you overall are ahead. You gotta 55 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: look big picture. See you don't look big picture. You 56 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: look at the micro, not the macro. I'm a macro guy. 57 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm Mackerel Maller. They call me macro Matt. We live 58 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: in a what have you done for me? Type of world, 59 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: and being is not you of all people Jackets should 60 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: want me to get the picks right, you dummy, to 61 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: make this actually a big deal and not some kind 62 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: of disaster, and you are openly, yet again, you are 63 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: openly pulling against me, which is going to hurt you. 64 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: You are a walking Hindenburg, is what you are. You 65 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: are a hydrogen bomb, very flammable. Do you understand how 66 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: bad this sounds? Benny versus the Penny, which is now 67 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: on YouTube? All right, you gascon should want me to 68 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: be the greatest handicapper of all time, and instead you 69 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: are enjoying a mediocre weekend of picks. A mediocre weekend. 70 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm not enjoying it. But as you know in radio, 71 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: this is kind of synonymous for people that make it 72 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: or even break it, is that you never want to 73 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: be five hundred. You either want to be really good 74 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: or really fucking bad. You never want to be middle 75 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: of the road at five hundreds. So you know, I 76 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: don't want to no, no, no. In gambling, you don't 77 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: want to be You either want to be good or mediocre. 78 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: You don't want to be terrible because if you're terrible, 79 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: you you lose your entire bankroll. Yeah, but that makes 80 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: for good fade material for people that don't trust you, 81 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: they can fade. Then I'm in it to win it, donkey, 82 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: I am in it to win it. Okay, I am 83 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: going to neutralize the bookie. Okay, that's what I am 84 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: going to do. All's fair and love and gambling. I 85 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: do hope that you you recover and and week three 86 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: is better than week two. Um, and if you'll be fine, 87 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: I like the card better this weekend. I will be fine. 88 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: But don't worry about that. Stop stop. This is an interview. 89 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: This is a chat with a friend. Podcast is what 90 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: this is. Bigger name than you, guess guy. This is 91 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: a guy that's had the career you want to have. 92 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: He has lived the life you would like to live. 93 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: He has been the star, he has been the man, 94 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: he's been the marquee. Yes, well you you already know 95 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: who's on because you've downloaded the podcast. But Pat O'Brian, 96 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: the man has done it all. He's even worked with 97 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: me P o b Fox Sports Radio Legend back and 98 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: of course most people know him more from CBS Prudential 99 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: at the Half at the Boston Garden, all those Olympics, 100 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: super Bowl, the World Series, the NBA Finals, the Final. 101 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: For the man has done it all in sports television 102 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: back at CBS and BC. And he not only had 103 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: a very successful career for twenty years in sports on television. 104 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: He then crossed over to Access Hollywood The Insider. He 105 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: was hanging out with all the moguls, all the big wigs, 106 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: all the power brokers in Hollywood in sports for thirty 107 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: forty years. He's been doing it and the Pats retired 108 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: at this point. But he is a friend I've not 109 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: talked to in a long time. Actually, what happened here 110 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: is I was curious what's going on with past, so 111 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: I text Pat to catch up and see how he 112 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: was doing. And then we started texting and I was like, Hey, 113 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: I gotta get you on the podcast. So here he is. 114 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: We welcome in the Man, the myth, the legend, the 115 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: Great Pat O'Brien, who was on the Fifth Hour with 116 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: Ben Maller and David Gascon and Pat, what the heck 117 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: have you been up to? My man? Right now, I'm 118 00:06:55,040 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: finishing a burrito, um up the stepartment and uh Coca cola. Yeah, 119 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: latest and other than that, but you know, nothing, just 120 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: hanging out enjoying my life. Yeah. Now, obviously it's been 121 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: a crazy year here in so how how has that 122 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: affected the life of the Great Pat O'Brien With everything 123 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: that's been going on, the restrictions in California and around 124 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: the country. How have you been adapting to this? You know, 125 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: you know me well enough to know I don't let 126 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: much bother me. Um. I've had a blessed life and 127 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm grateful for that, and because of that, I just 128 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: don't love. A lot of things bother me, and they do. 129 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: I get rid of them. That's good. That's good. Now 130 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: you are the Are you the most famous person from 131 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: South Dakota or you're in the top five? Right, You're 132 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: in the top five. Tom broke Off, all right, he's 133 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: probably the most famous. Mary Heart Okay. Um, I guess 134 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: George McGovern politician wise, and then me. But for the 135 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: purposes of this call, I'm the most famous. Well, clearly 136 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: you're you're the most famous. When was the last time 137 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: you went back to your your roots in South Dakota. 138 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: I go back a lot, you know. I love going 139 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: back there a lot. I've got a lot of friends 140 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: back there and they like seeing me, and I just 141 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: go back and hang out. I'm a big you know me, 142 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm a big hangout guy. I love to hang out. 143 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: So I go back and we hang out and we 144 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: drink beer and make fools of ourselves and I leave. 145 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: So they you're the social butterfly, and they roll out 146 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: the red carpet when p O B shows up the 147 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: South Dakota, it's Sue falls, right, is that where you're 148 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: You're from the South Dakota. But then on the roll 149 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: out the red carpets all the same to me, I 150 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: mean before I grew up. Um, my mom passed away recently, 151 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: but she was always there and you would love my mom, 152 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: by the way, she's the great, greatest woman. Yeah, what 153 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: was your mom like? What was your mom like? She 154 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: was carbon copy of me? Well, I'm carbon copy of her. 155 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: She was strom San and I'm choking in with ato. 156 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: All right, Well it's a yeah, that'll the download numbers 157 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: will go up, pat if turns into a catastrophe. Yes, 158 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: over there, you guys, okay, Yeah. Can you believe p O. B. 159 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: That Fox Sports Radio is celebrating twenty years of broadcasting 160 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: this year and you are a big part of the 161 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: history of Fox Sports Radio and you're run here back 162 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: in the day, So twenty years, those are the days 163 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: we worked together, that's right. Yeah, well you you of 164 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: course with a great Steve Hartman Victor Brick. You guys 165 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: were dominating, and occasionally when one of those guys would 166 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: be out, I got to do the show with with 167 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: p O B. And uh. I do recall, Pat, we 168 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: had a big rivalry. You remember the battle we had 169 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: to try to get verified on Twitter. Do you remember? 170 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: My god, we forgot about that. You We were going 171 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: back and it was like in the early days of Twitter, 172 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: when Twitter started. We were trying to get verified. And 173 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, I'm in a race. Pat, You're like this big. 174 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: You know, You've got the history on network television and 175 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: you also the entertainment show and all that. I'm just 176 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: like a radio scrub and uh. And we were battling, 177 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: by the way, well thank you, but we were desperately 178 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: trying to get you're desperately trying to get verified. I 179 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: remember that you beat me, and I remember you you're 180 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: doing a victory lap and texting me that you had 181 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: been been verified in the morning. But I got verified 182 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: like a couple of days after that, Pat, So it 183 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: wasn't like you, you know, there wasn't a huge gap. 184 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: It was only a couple of days. Well, I shouldn't 185 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: get verified over you. Well, no, you're you're a star. Pat, 186 00:10:54,520 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm nobody. Come on please, guy, Yeah, we're 187 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: can stiff. That's the key to my my life. And 188 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: I've always saw it myself. It's just a working shift, 189 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: you know. I got to work and I do my thing. Yeah, 190 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: what was what was it like? We're with Hartman and 191 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: Hartman's a piece of work too. Man, that guy, he's 192 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: a roll the deck. Yeah. I love Steve harm However, 193 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: he's got his issues, but so do I. But he 194 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: was He's always been something going on with him. Yeah, 195 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, but I love the guy who was great 196 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: the drama, Right, there's always some some drama going on. 197 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: Well aware if there's no drama he'd created. Yeah, well 198 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: it's good life. Life is all about the drama in anyways, 199 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: as as you know about creating it, ye your time. Yeah, 200 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of drama this year at p 201 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: O B. I mean this has been been wild and crazy. 202 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: How much of that are you consuming? I've I've tried 203 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: to stay away from as much of it as I can, 204 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: but it's everywhere, it's all encompassing, it's all you know, 205 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: every in your business, and yeah, it's it's just out 206 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: of control. How much of that do you have in 207 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: your life? Would you pay attention to the news of 208 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: the day and that kind of stuff? You know, Like 209 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: I said, I don't love affect me. It's uh, people 210 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: come to me with drama. I don't engage. I mean 211 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: it's uh, why do that? Oh yeah, why and write drama? 212 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: You know? By the way is burritos station? Where'd you 213 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: get the burrito from? Up at the corner Deli? Corner Deli? 214 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking to you. They probably think you're talking. I'm good, Pat, 215 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm settled in and we're working from 216 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: home now because of the pandemic. So I've I've got 217 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm like big time. I'm like a big TV radio 218 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: guy because I have the setup. I have my own studio, 219 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: so I'm doing the show out of the compound here, 220 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: so I have not Yeah, it's wonderful. I didn't think 221 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: I was gonna like it, but I love it. And 222 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: I didn't think I was going to enjoy it. But 223 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: it makes the commute a lot easier. Pat. Uh, Well, 224 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: there is no commune from living room, bedroom, kitchen. No. No, 225 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: I have like a little office. Yeah, so I have 226 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: the bring the gear and set it up for you. 227 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: Uh no, no, no, of course not. I had to 228 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: buy it. Actually I bought I was doing stuff for 229 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: w E I in Boston a couple of years ago, remotely, 230 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: and so I built this little studio and then they 231 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: did trade some of the raggedy equipment that I had bought. 232 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: They put some a couple of new things in here, 233 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: but other than that, it's the same stuff that I 234 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: had purchased on the internet years ago, a couple of 235 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: years back. So they can get your own gear at home. 236 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: That's did you ever work out at home? You all 237 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: those gigs you had over the years, you were never 238 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: able to work out a home? Were you now? Now? 239 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: Because I always like going in I could have. I 240 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: guess I had the used to do it. But how 241 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: is that going in seeing people saying hi, you know, 242 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: being sociable. Yeah, well, because that's because you're a social butterfly. 243 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm an introvert. Pat, you know that I'm not together 244 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: for that knowing TV is the extrovert. Radio is the introvert. 245 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: But I always like going in him and being around people, 246 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: and you see me in action, I know my thing. Well, 247 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: you're the life of the room. Where whatever room you're 248 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: in Pat, You're lighting the room up. That's the beauty 249 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: of Pat O'Brien. Well, I always look good. That's the 250 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: only the only thing I can count to them. I'm 251 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: trying to think the last time I saw you, and 252 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: I think it was unfortunately at a funeral. Uh was 253 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: it the when Joe McDonald had passed away. I think 254 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: I I was that, like, yeah, that's the last time 255 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: I saw the great p O B. We we gotta 256 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: catch Joe McDonald. Legend l A radio titan. He was 257 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: the he was the Francessa of l A right back 258 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: in the day. He's bigger than Francessa literally and figuratively. Um, now, 259 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: what a great guy. Didn't you do a story Joe didn't? 260 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: Or didn't you do a story? Pat? On Joe on 261 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: CBS At one point, I think I remember something they 262 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: did some feature on It was Joe and Doug. Were 263 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: you the one that did that? Somebody did that? It 264 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: was gave him a nice send off. Yeah, I expect 265 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: you to do for me when I go, oh, Pat, 266 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna outlast met Pat. Come on your p O B. 267 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: You're a radio TV icon. Those people don't pass away. 268 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: Come on Pat my Son said to me the other day, Yeah, 269 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: you get a live longer than all of your friends. 270 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: And I said, yes, well, Pat, you have the good genetics. 271 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: And I want to put this out now. You have 272 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: told me over the years and you've proven it. Actually 273 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: before we talked a little bit before we started recording 274 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: the podcast. Here you have the one thing genetically that 275 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: I wish I had. You have the greatest immune system 276 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: that you could possibly have. Like, I eat a couple 277 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: of candy bars or something like that, and I gained 278 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: five pounds. You, Pat, can literally do whatever you want. 279 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: Is this correct? P O B. You can eat whatever 280 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: I My mom's that way, my father was that way, 281 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: and I'm that way. I eat all day, honest, I 282 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: eat all day long. I get up, I have bacon 283 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: and eggs for breakfast, maybe some ham, and I have 284 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: a snack bit morning, and I have lunch to just 285 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: have a couple of burritos. I mean, I eat all 286 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: freaking day. A lot of that work, but I did that. 287 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: I was like almost five pounds when I was doing that. 288 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: Back in the day, I would I would eat, you know, 289 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: four massive meals a day, and it showed in my physique. 290 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: I'll say it's fun because I don't care and my 291 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: like I said, my mom is the same way, my 292 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: dad is the same way. My dad always said to me, 293 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: eat whenever you're hungry. I said, what if I'm always hungry, 294 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: because then you always eat? That is? Uh? Are you 295 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: working out at all? Though you get any exercise pattern? 296 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: You're just consuming your exercise putting the burrito into the mouth. 297 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: Is that your exercise? No? I do um an awesome 298 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: number of sit ups today. Eat my stomach, you know, 299 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: tender hard, and I run. So that's my exercise. And 300 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 1: I walk everywhere. I don't use In fact, I got 301 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: rid of my card. I don't drive anywhere. You don't drive? 302 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait you live 303 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: in l A. Still right, Pat, you're you're not driving 304 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: and you live in Los Angeles. I live in Beverly Hills. Yeah, 305 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: so everything I need is within like three or four blocks, 306 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: and I walk everywhere because if you drive, you end 307 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: up blocking a block after you park your car. You know, Well, 308 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: that's true. But what if you want to go to 309 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: like the beach or something like you gotta drop that's 310 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: different story. I'm just talking about it. Stuff Okay, so 311 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: you really but my car? Okay? You know, Bet. What 312 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: he's doing is he's being progressive to Gavin Newsom's initiative 313 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: of eliminating gas powered vehicles. That's right, Pat, Did you 314 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: see that? Pat? They're gonna get rid of all the game. 315 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: They're gonna no more gas vehicles. And what fifteen years? 316 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: They said? Yeah, what's that happening? Five? Pat? Fifteen years? 317 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: I'll be longgo, not long, not dead, but I'll be 318 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: way out of here by then. Oh yeah, where are 319 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: you going? You leave in California? Pat? Are you? I 320 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: think you've actually I go back to the Midwest. I 321 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: love you know, I love South Dakota, So I have 322 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: to go back to the Midwest. You ever been there? 323 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: By the way South Dakota. No, I've flown over it, 324 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: but I've never never been there. Everybody's where should I go? 325 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: If I if give me you call me and I'll 326 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: meet you in the Sue Falls. That's the main place. 327 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: And I know literally all hundreds and thirty thousand people. 328 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: Is there a sign that are? Is your name on 329 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: a sign? When you enter into Sue Falls, the birthplace 330 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: of Pat O'Brien. Don't forget Mary hart, Tom broke off 331 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people from South Dakota. So I'm I'm 332 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: like low on the total pole. Yeah, well you're high 333 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: on the our totem pole here, Pat. When it comes 334 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: to that, I'm yes, very important, very important. Pat. Do 335 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: you Hunt? No? You know what, I shouldn't pay guys. 336 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: I should have, but I never did because Chas and 337 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: Hunt he is a big deal. I just I don't 338 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: like being around guns. Never did. A friend of mine 339 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: has a head blowing off, sucking around with a gun. 340 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: So from that moment on the way to bring the 341 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: interview down right, um, but I sat there and watched 342 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: the guy you know, blow his head off sucking around 343 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: with a gun, So I never, I never, I'm sorry, 344 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: did I say that word? Sorry? Messing around with a gun? 345 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: And so from that I was always afraid of them 346 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: and the only guns out there I've shotgun. So, so 347 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: what do you recommend to do then? If we go 348 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: out to Sue Falls and I'm I'm escorting you and 349 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: Ben Maller around town, like besides handing out autographs and 350 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: taking selfies with you, guys, what else is there to 351 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: do out there? I'll take Ben to all the good spots. Pat, 352 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna take you off on this. My 353 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: wife would love to go, and she always wants to travel. 354 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: I don't. We we haven't gone anywhere this year because 355 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: of what's been going on. But now and my brother 356 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: about that. You love it there knowing you you love it. 357 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's great, it's easy. The people are nice, 358 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: restaurants are great, the food is good. Yeah. Hey, when 359 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: you were when you look at John Morrell and Company 360 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: to meet packing plan, Yeah, hey, I gotta when you 361 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: were working in New York all those years, did you 362 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: live in the city or did you live outside or 363 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: how did that? How that work? That's your spot? That 364 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: was my spot. It's a Regency hotel department in the Regency. 365 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: And by the way, I never paid for it, So 366 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: I mean you gave me some Pat, You gave me 367 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: some great advice. Remember when I was I was traveling 368 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: at the time you were working at Fox Sports Radio. 369 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: I was doing stuff at the NBC Sports Network, So 370 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: I had to go back to Stanford, Connecticut like once 371 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: a month and do some some TV stuff which I 372 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: sucked at, which I'm not doing anywhere. But you told 373 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: me when it comes to travel, remember what you told 374 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: me when it comes to the expense is on travel, 375 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: pat and how to handle that. Did I say, lie, No, 376 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: you said. I think you said something to the effect 377 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: that these big media comans, at least at that time. Um, 378 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: it was just like a business write off right for 379 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: travel a lot of times. So like you whatever, when 380 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: you were traveling, you can stay at a nice hotel 381 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: because it's just a business expense, right if something that 382 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: they don't care. I mean I had a pretty expensive 383 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: com because I said, look, if you're taking me away 384 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: from my house, my apartment, then you gotta take care 385 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: of me the way I would live there. And they 386 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: understood that. And by the way, you're right, the travel 387 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: expenses a big write off for them, so it's not 388 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: a big deal. Yeah, you know if you get a 389 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: five bedge of a squeaked and they might give me 390 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: a call. But I hear you, Hey, when you were 391 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: when you were in New York, did you ever run 392 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: with Trump? When when you were in New York? And 393 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: did you guys hang in the same social circles back 394 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: in those days? Are good friends? We still are. Um. 395 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: We were just talking about it the other day. We 396 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: used to go out to dinner like once or twice 397 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: a week. And that's just when he was Donald Trump 398 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: real estate guy. Now look at him, I know he's 399 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: Have you talked to him since he became the president? 400 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: Have you? Yeah, you have said, what do you expect 401 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: you're going to do with this job? What do you 402 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: what do you think? What are you thinking? But he's 403 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: having a good time. He's actually a pretty good guy. Yeah, 404 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: he's been trashed though. Man, it's been vicious fellows. As 405 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: you know, everybody trashes me. I said to one of 406 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: those guys who's trash, Doble'll get over it, isn't it great? Though? 407 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: Facts when he was running around New York and all that, 408 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: everyone like, he was hanging out with her, he was 409 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: everyone's friend. Everyone loved him. And then he becomes president. 410 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: Now he's a pariah and he's he's horrible and all 411 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: this stuff. It's just brutal, how vicious it is right now. 412 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: I like his trajectory though. I mean, he did this right. 413 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: I think he might have been thinking about this all 414 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: the time. But now look at him. I said to myself, 415 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm not going to call him Mr President, so don't 416 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen. So how how do 417 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: you let me ask you? Now? You you have obviously 418 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: Trump's number from back when he lived in New York, 419 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: But how if you want to get ahold of he's 420 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: the president of the United States. It must have been 421 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: difficult to get ahold of him? Like how you can't 422 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: just call him up? Can you? I got a cell number, 423 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: and he gave his cell number out to very few people. 424 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: So should we should dial it? Man? Yeah? Now, Pat? 425 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: That see that would make this even better. But not now. 426 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: You of course are enough to get the downloads up. 427 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: But but that's to know somebody that became president? What 428 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: you hang with some high rollers? Pat? I remember, I 429 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: remember one time I was on the phone with you, 430 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: and I think you had to get off because what 431 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: was wh which big name? Yoke? Oh? Or is I 432 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: think somebody else a bigger name had called in? If 433 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: I remember one time we were talking on the phone, 434 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: but you there's nobody bigger than you. Well, who's the 435 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: biggest is the president? I would think President United States? 436 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: Is is like the what's the biggest name in your 437 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: phone right now? The biggest name you have on your 438 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: phone right now? That you'd call right this second other 439 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: than President Trump, the three of the Beatles. Wow, you 440 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: know mccartni, Ringo and uh you used to have Lemon. 441 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: But and I see Ringle all the time, so we're 442 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: call him Richard down here. A great guy by the way, 443 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: but it's so weird growing up. I'm a huge Beetle 444 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: fan hanging out with Ringo Starry, you know. Yeah, I 445 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: remember one time we were on the phone and he 446 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: so I got Ringo on the other line, I gotta go, 447 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: and uh, I remember, I remember, I remember that, Like, wow, 448 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: I know, I know, but it made for a good 449 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: story past. So when I tell stories about you on 450 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: the Overnight Show, I was like, you know, I remember 451 00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 1: one time I was on the phone with Pat O'Brian 452 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: to need this and he did that and all that stuff, 453 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: and uh, it's it's hilarious. Do you think Trump's gonna 454 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: get reelected? Pat? What do you think? What's the pulse 455 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: of Pat O'Brien here at this point with the election? Yeah, 456 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: I think he's you know, I'm not fond of his politics. 457 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: He knows that, but um yeah, I think he's gonna 458 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: go who's gonna beat him? I mean, when you're an 459 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: incumbent president. You have everything working for you, plus you 460 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: have all the money. And that's what it takes to 461 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: win now is money, lots of it. That's why I'm 462 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: not running for you all. They wanted me to run 463 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: for sentatives South Dakota or governor. Yeah, I said, the 464 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: last thing. You want me to be as your governor? 465 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: What would you do as governor? If Pat O'Brien was 466 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: the governor? What would you do? I want to enjoy, 467 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: you know, I would enjoy it. I just don't think 468 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: it pays well. Well, isn't politics where you make your 469 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: money once you're out of office because you all those 470 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: people have to pay you money for the favors that 471 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: you give them. I think that's usually how it works, 472 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: isn't it. Well, it's a good trans It would be 473 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: a good transition for me because everybody knows me. Um. Yeah, 474 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: but broke on both of out Dakota and he didn't 475 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: want to run, so um, I don't know. I think 476 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: being a being governor or being a politician boring for me. 477 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: Do you think, Well, it depends how you did it. 478 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: Like now, it would be tough, but you could go 479 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: to all kinds of social junk's pad and you could 480 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,479 Speaker 1: hang out and press the flash. You're you're great at 481 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. That's true, that's anyway. Yeah, okay, 482 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: So if Trump gets reelected, Pat, and he calls you 483 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: up and says, hey, I need you on some White 484 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: House committee, would you do It? Depends on what it is. 485 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I love don and I would do that. 486 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: But what do I need that? Now? I'm talking to 487 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: you on an afternoon. I don't need anything else. You 488 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: know clearly your life is complete, right, Uh No, you 489 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: know I don't need that. I some people need it 490 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: further ego. I have enough things from my ego. Yeah, 491 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: do you Pat? Do you miss the radio space here 492 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: like your Fox caf? I? Do you do you miss that? 493 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: You know? I loved radio more than television, you know 494 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: what I I mean. You saw me in there, and I 495 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: love just sitting in front of the microphone. You can 496 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: say whatever you want almost and I loved it over there. 497 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: I had a good time doing that. Do you think 498 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: in today's environment that you'd be able to survive it 499 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: just with the way that you know you were able 500 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: to say and do what you want. Well, I'm a survivor. 501 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: And if they hire me. They know what they're getting. So, 502 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean he's a pretty good at ten. I mean 503 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: the conversation, let's hire paddle Brand, we'll do. You have 504 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: to put up with it, yes, Now, Now, Pat, I 505 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: love that you're friends with Trump because you are obviously 506 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: a Democrat. But you know, Trump's a Republican guy. And 507 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: we're at the point now where if you're on its tribalism. 508 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: If you're a Democrat, you can't like a Republican. If 509 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: you're a Republican, you can't like a Democrat. It's it's 510 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: just wild politically. How many presidents do you you you 511 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: were friends with the Clinton's right, I think back in 512 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: the back in how many presidents have you been friendly 513 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: with over the years. Let's see Bill Um Clinton? Yeah, Trump, 514 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: I knew Nixon did some things to them, but we 515 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: never really clicked. As you can imagine, Uh, what the 516 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: kind of guy who go out for a beer with 517 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: you know Trump? You did? Yeah, but Trump is great, 518 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: by the way, and he never forgets his friends. What 519 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: was it like back in the in the eighties and 520 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: the nineties with when you were hanging out in New 521 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: York going out to dinner and restaurants and running into Trump? 522 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: What was that like in those days like it is today? 523 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: You know the great thing about being on television as 524 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: much as I've been ever, I knows you you know, 525 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: which has benefits since travails. But I love going out 526 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: in New York. By the way. I always get a 527 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: good table, so they don't make you wait. When I 528 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: go to New York, they make me wait out in 529 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: the street and they're like, we'll get to you know, 530 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: you know when your number coming out? Oh was I 531 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: was at the four Seasons and in walks Clinton and 532 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm at his table and they said, Mr Clinton's here. 533 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: I said, so, I mean it's good table. The bottom 534 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: line is I was here first. But now it's always 535 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: fun to go out in New York. It's expensive, though, jeez, yeah, 536 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: spy for a cocktail the way I drink. Do you 537 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: still have your place in New York? Do you still 538 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: go back there? Yeah? I do, um, and I don't. 539 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: I don't get there enough, but I don't. I don't 540 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: want to get rid of it. It's good. A little 541 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: pricing now, but I can. I can take it off 542 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: your hands if you want. And when I'm in New York, 543 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: I can stay there. For if you want, you know, 544 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: just saying you're welcome to stay there. I was cleaned 545 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: and leave in the mailbox a night a night. Uh 546 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: that's great. So I told you when we worked together, Patton, 547 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: I I remember when I was when I was younger, 548 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: and you know, not to make you feel old, but 549 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: watching CBS and the Celtics and the Lakers in the eighties, 550 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: high to top the Boston Garden for what was the 551 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: credential at the half with Pat O'Brien, and uh, what 552 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: was it like working those days back in the in 553 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: the because the Boston Garden I was never there. It 554 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: was a dump, right, It was an old Rundown gymnasium 555 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: and it was it's not like these new arenas today 556 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: where everything's got the build whistles. You were. You were 557 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: by television standards and by sports standards. You were roughing 558 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: it right back in those days. Well as you'd like 559 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: to say, it had character. And I always said, I 560 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: made them make me a spot up for the bell 561 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: case said, I sat over Boston Garden. But it has 562 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: a lot of character and a lot of and I 563 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: knew all the players, so you know, ueah, but the 564 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: Boston Garden, we walk in there and there's Larry Bird. 565 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: You know you you know you're somewhere, but didn't it 566 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: didn't have air conditioning, right, and there we get hot 567 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: those conditioning, no fresh air, no ventilation. Yeah, but they 568 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: had Larry Bird. So um that saidenough, isn't it? Yeah? 569 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: What was the you did the Super Bowl pregame? Right, 570 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: You've done everything? What was the What was the event 571 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: that stood out and said, man, that is the coolest 572 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: thing that I get to do? Is it was the Olympics? 573 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: What was you know what? My favorite events were always 574 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: the Olympics. I've done like six Olympics And the great 575 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: thing about the Olympics that you never get bored. There's 576 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: always something going on, and uh, it's just the Olympics 577 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: are great. The NBA Finals are always good for me 578 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: too because I kind of ran that deal. But the 579 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: Olympics is great. What do people associate you with them? 580 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it the To me, it's it's the NBA, 581 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: It's the it's the you're doing the pre and the 582 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: halftime and all that stuff. Is it? What do you 583 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: think most people when they say Pat O'Brien, they is it? 584 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: Is it the entertainment stuff? You did after sports, what 585 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: would it be? I said, it's still sports. I mean, 586 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: most people I remember you on the NBA and college basketball, 587 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: believe or not. And in college football I did a 588 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: lot of I did a lot of college people forget that. 589 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: That's some college kids actually went to school. But I 590 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: didn't go to school. When I was in college at too, No, please, 591 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: I was the radio nerd. I didn't pay only radio. 592 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: I paid attention to pretty much nothing else. But that 593 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: was about it. And how much Pat? All the all 594 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: the college stuff was a CBS right mm hmm, the 595 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: Final Four and all that, right and the whole, the 596 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: whole ball of way CBS. I did the Final Four, 597 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: the Olympics, a bunch of Super Bowls and all the basketball, 598 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: all the halftimes, and never did any research Pat, when 599 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: you did the Pat when you covered the Olympics? Was 600 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: was most of that on site? Too? Like? Were you 601 00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: at these these venues or were you? Guys? Hold on, 602 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: you're making me get up. I'm totally Chris, I'm getting here. 603 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: The owner comes out, doesn't he know who you are? Pat? 604 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: Come on, you're Pat O'Brien. You can do what you want. 605 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: That's so I think I just swore, um No, the 606 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: Olympics was always great because there was always something to 607 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: do and uh, if you didn't have something to do, 608 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: you find it, you know, And it was great. And 609 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: I was kind of curious if you ever traveled intead 610 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: the athletes bubble, let's see exactly what was going on 611 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: inside the Olympic athletes are a special breed. And you know, 612 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 1: I think about my job was that I was the guy. 613 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: You know, that's not like I'm the man, but I 614 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: was the guy that had this talk to but they 615 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: like to do not so it worked for me. Sure. Absolutely. 616 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: How much sports do you watch these days? Pat? Do 617 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 1: you still watching a bunch of this stuff? Are you 618 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: doing it again? There's so much on though, you believe 619 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: that we can watch anything anytime. When I was doing sports, 620 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: it was just the NBA and maybe some football, But 621 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: now there's everything. Sure, who you know why? Because people 622 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: want it? Who's the who do you think the top 623 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: people are that that have done what you did back 624 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: into Who are the padd O'Brien's of this generation of television? Well, 625 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: there's always Bob Costs, but that's well he's at Is 626 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: that too many guys coming up that are are really 627 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: really good? You know? Was it? What does it take 628 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: to be good at as a studio host on network TV? 629 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: What is? What skills do you have to have? How 630 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: do you be good? How? How can you follow in 631 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: your footsteps? But for something? There's people listening to their 632 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: young guys that want to be the next padd O'Brien. 633 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: I want to be on TV? What do you have 634 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: to do to be good at that job? Trick tells 635 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: the police. Umst, I don't get nervous, uh, you know, 636 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: don't rattle yourself and be confident. I was always confident 637 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: in my skills, So that did I mean, that's to me, 638 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: that's that I was that great. But I was very 639 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: confident in my skills, so I knew I could handle 640 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: anything and did. By the way, that sound like good 641 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: schmuck right now? Do not at all? Pat. You are 642 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: much much kinder now than you were back in the day. Pat, 643 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: come on, please you you're you're doing wonderful. Absolutely, remember 644 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: our days, Remember our days back in that radio studio. 645 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: I do. I fondly remember some of my my you 646 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: busting balls with me. I remember the one time you 647 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: you taped you tape some money to the console. Remember 648 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: that you it takes some money and then and then 649 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: it's some of it is still there. Pat, You'll be 650 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: happy to know there's like seven years seven, eight years 651 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: ago and it's still some of the tape money is 652 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: still in the studio. They haven't been able to get 653 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: it off the console. That I think one of those 654 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: I think it was a five dollar bill and that 655 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: put so much tape on it to take the board 656 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: depart to get it off there. Yeah, it's Pat, don't 657 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 1: do this? Said, why well that I remember you gave 658 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 1: me a gift. You went and you had a bag 659 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: of like high end watches, you remember that, Pat, he 660 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: pick what you want here? And you had the uh 661 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: the bag of watches that I was like, I couldn't 662 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: afford one of those watches. And you're like, you know, 663 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: back of whatever you want, Ben, take care, take one, 664 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: go ahead. At least it wasn't a bag of drugs. 665 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,439 Speaker 1: Well no, no, I didn't know you at that time. 666 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: But how's that going? By the way, the Battle of sobriety? Man, 667 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: how are you doing? You sound good? Yeah, I'm great. 668 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: It's um no more booze, no more drivers. I'm fine 669 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: with it. It's by the way easier. And you think 670 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: I have no temptations. I mean now and then I'll 671 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 1: see somebody coming to the restaurant over glass of red wine. 672 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: I think, you know, those are the days. And now 673 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 1: I remember trying to crawl home. Um And I remember 674 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: one of the first times I met Pat O'Brien, the 675 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: Great p o b was at Adults in Burbank. I 676 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: think you were doing one of the entertainment shows. I 677 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: don't know if it's Access Hollywood of the Insider, but 678 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: you would. You would come in there after work and 679 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: we were working across the street doing radio at the 680 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: local station. And I remember you were busting my balls 681 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: because I kept mispronouncing Wimbledon. I mispronounced and you were. 682 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: You were giving me a hard time, but you were 683 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: drinking the wine. Back in those days, Pat, right that 684 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: I love Adults. I used to go there like three days, 685 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 1: three or four days a week. I love that everyone 686 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: was hanging out there back in the day. All the 687 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: movie studio people, radio people, TV people. Was wonderful back then. 688 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: No more hangouts anymore, you know. Well, I was in Chicago. 689 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: It was always, you know a place where everybody would 690 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: go and you go there and see everybody wanted to 691 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: do it. Now there's no no hangouts. People have spread 692 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: out all over the place. Yeah that is, or they're 693 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: avoiding me. I don't know. No, I remember though that 694 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: that place Daltson Burbank. They it was at the bottom 695 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: floor of this office tower, right next to Warner Brothers 696 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 1: studios and everyone everyone from Warner Brothers back this back 697 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: in the day, and there would be like the cast 698 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: of Seinfeld, the Drew Carey Show, like all we come 699 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: hang out and you were there, you know, NBC people, 700 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: the local NBC in l A. Fritz Coleman would be 701 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: in there and and hanging out. And yeah, I mean 702 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: there's no places like that anymore. Um, what's the song? Um? 703 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: Place we want to go see your friends? What's the song? Um? 704 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't I can't remember. But there 705 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: was a love those places where you go and I 706 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: always see somebody you know and just said down and 707 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: have a good time. Yeah. So what's day to day 708 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: in life like for you, Patt? You just kind of 709 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: hang out living the dream, retired, living life large. Yeah. 710 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: I don't do a lot, well, actually I do. I 711 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: get up, I have breakfast, I see my son whenever 712 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: I can. I'm pretty good friends with all my neighbors. 713 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: I have a good life. I got the lunch every 714 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: day when I got to dinner most of the time. 715 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes I cook at home. The life of tattle. Brian. 716 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: I saw you pretty. I saw you not on. You're 717 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: not on. You have a Twitter account. We we talked 718 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: about that earlier, but you're not active on there. You 719 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: get did you give that up? Patty? You've done with 720 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: the the toxic world of Twitter because whatever I say 721 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: it gets slaughter reaction. Sometimes I can't be that. I 722 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: won't buy not the nicest guy on any things. So um, 723 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: but I love Twitter is a great invention. Are you 724 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: on Twitter? Yeah, of course, I'm a pet. I'm I'm 725 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: I follow, We follow each other, but you're never are 726 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 1: You never tweeted anything? So I don't see your your 727 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: comments because you don't. As you said, you don't send 728 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: stuff out because you don't want to blow back. I 729 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: hear you. That's smart. By the way, you know any 730 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: guys have lost gigs because of Twitter. It's it's crazy, 731 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure because you get real free. You know you think, well, 732 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: I can say that nobody will see it when in fact, 733 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: everybody sees it. Yeah, hey, Pat, we gotta go. But listen, 734 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: we gotta have you on again. I love you, man. 735 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 1: We gotta hang out to we'll get we'll go to 736 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: when they when the King of California opens up the 737 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,760 Speaker 1: restaurants again. We'll have to go out and break bread somewhere. 738 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: Let's let's go out and hang out and then we'll 739 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: come out again. I love I love being around you. 740 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: All right, you're the greatest. Pat. Take care of man. 741 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. Be sure to catch live editions of The 742 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m. Pacific,