Speaker 1: Like angels over and you're are the world. You plenty
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Speaker 1: You're listening to the official New York Jets podcast, but
Speaker 1: Jets three sixty production. What's up everybody? Ethan Greenberg? And aah,
Speaker 1: we're in Virginia doing a podcast. Should you be in Virginia?
Speaker 1: Because your voice sounds all voices not in Virginia. My
Speaker 1: voice is somewhere. Why don't you tell people about the
Speaker 1: set up? Today's studio where at the team hotel? Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is what we have today. Senior producer Chris Obbins
Speaker 1: is laying on his bed over here taping our podcast
Speaker 1: and via camera. Bottom line is we're getting it done.
Speaker 1: This is a pretty nice studio if you think about
Speaker 1: If you think about it, it's we got some comfy chairs.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about football for a second, because I think
Speaker 1: that's while we're down here, and he talked about Jed's
Speaker 1: Redskins practices. Now over the game is Thursday night fl
Speaker 1: X field from where you sit and watching practice every
Speaker 1: day and seeing how these teams interacted together. Obviously things
Speaker 1: started off a little hot, but a lot of the
Speaker 1: players said that there was productive work after that, what
Speaker 1: do you think the team rather took out of this experience?
Speaker 1: We talked about this a little bit. Aren't two minute drill?
Speaker 1: Is that? I think it's beneficial midway through camp to
Speaker 1: get a chance to see a different team who is
Speaker 1: employing different schemes and has different personnel, and I think
Speaker 1: that helps the players. I think it helps the coaches.
Speaker 1: I think the intensity level across the line. On Sunday,
Speaker 1: I think Todd Bowles did a tremendous job of nipping
Speaker 1: Net in the butt. And what followed were two productive
Speaker 1: days on Monday and Tuesday. I thought, coming in Greens
Speaker 1: that are they gonna go with pads three days? Some
Speaker 1: people say, yeah, definitely go with pads three days, so
Speaker 1: I was not surprised. Though they scaled it back a
Speaker 1: little bit on the third day as the guys were
Speaker 1: in shells. But to me, Tuesday was my favorite day
Speaker 1: of the three. I don't know how you feel. You
Speaker 1: got a chance to see the skill position guys go
Speaker 1: at it in one on one work inside the red zone.
Speaker 1: The other thing that we saw today. I thought Sam
Speaker 1: Donald ended a good practice week with a great day.
Speaker 1: I thought he's very good in the red zone. And
Speaker 1: he orchestrated a nice drive there at that end. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll talk about I agree with you in
Speaker 1: that I think Tuesday was the best day to at
Speaker 1: least watch practice. It seemed that the guys had like
Speaker 1: a different energy on Tuesday than they did the first
Speaker 1: two days. And just to explain to people what the
Speaker 1: differences between pads and shells, pads is what you play
Speaker 1: a game in and shells is like a scaled back
Speaker 1: version of it. It's like a it's almost like a vest,
Speaker 1: almost like it's just like a little chess protector. I
Speaker 1: think that Tuesday was definitely the best day, and going
Speaker 1: off of what you said is one with the skill players,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of one on ones where it
Speaker 1: was goal line, red zone, seven on seven and that
Speaker 1: that's like the best stuff to watch. And then talking
Speaker 1: about Donald, is that the drive that you mentioned when
Speaker 1: he he got the reps with the first team offense
Speaker 1: the Redskins first team defense, he led the Jets on
Speaker 1: a six play drive. I think he had Jordan Leggett
Speaker 1: twice and Clive Walford once or twice, one for the
Speaker 1: score on a beautiful throw and immediately when Walford caught
Speaker 1: the ball and walked in the end zone. The entire
Speaker 1: sidelines stood up and start not like hounding Sam, but
Speaker 1: definitely give Hi him props. And I think that it
Speaker 1: will be interesting to see what happens Thursday night. And
Speaker 1: as the preseason rules on, a lot of ooss from
Speaker 1: the crowd, I mean today a even though the Jets
Speaker 1: fans were well represented throughout the three days here, I
Speaker 1: think it was an overwhelming majority of Redskins fans on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of ooze and oz from
Speaker 1: the crowd when Donald unleashed a rope to Walford and
Speaker 1: I have to apologize here to Clive Walford because my
Speaker 1: auto correct on the phone keeps on going to Waldorf,
Speaker 1: Waldorf Salad, Waldorf Historia. There are a lot of people
Speaker 1: on Twitter saying, oh yeah here, Waldor is a great hotel.
Speaker 1: So I apologized the Clive and I apologize to everybody
Speaker 1: on Twitter. But the most impressive thing about that drive
Speaker 1: was that first play was a rollout to the right,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it was a design role. I
Speaker 1: think he was buying a little bit of time and
Speaker 1: he was on the money. To Jordan Leggatt and like
Speaker 1: you said, next play came right back to Jordan leg It.
Speaker 1: He hit tight ends on four of those cigarette completions,
Speaker 1: and Walford is a guy who has played well. The
Speaker 1: more you see Donald get reps, I feel like we've
Speaker 1: been seeing more at eight seven the Jets tight ends. Uh.
Speaker 1: Interesting mix that we continue to talk about throughout camp.
Speaker 1: Deal with a couple of injuries right now because Nate
Speaker 1: Sterling ankle injury against Atlanta, and now Chris Herndon did
Speaker 1: not play against Atlanta either, and he's been limited this
Speaker 1: week because of an undisclosed injury. But fans don't even
Speaker 1: need to take our words on Sam Donald because after practice,
Speaker 1: Josh Norman, the Redskins franchise corner, he talked about Sam Donald.
Speaker 1: Someone asked me about him another day and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like whatever, and it's just you know, routine. Lee.
Speaker 1: I'm just a guy. I think. You go out here
Speaker 1: and you see him make these throws and like, all right,
Speaker 1: that's not so much of a college level throw. He
Speaker 1: like pund him on the money. But then you go
Speaker 1: to seven or seven, it's like all right, pass cats
Speaker 1: here right there, But doggy, this no kid is not
Speaker 1: making mistakes. He really gave Donald props. So I think
Speaker 1: that if you're a Jets man, you know you read
Speaker 1: all this stuff in the media. What an opposing player
Speaker 1: who's at one of the best players at that position.
Speaker 1: I think when he says that it might hold it
Speaker 1: a little more weight so he doesn't make mistakes, you
Speaker 1: cannot bait him when you throw the names of Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz and Dak Prescott in the same category of Donald,
Speaker 1: because he talked about those young guys having success early
Speaker 1: in their careers, and now he's looking at a guy
Speaker 1: like Sam Donald saying well, look at what they bring
Speaker 1: to the table. Yeah, you're right, that is a mighty
Speaker 1: big compliment. I like what Todd Bulls said about Donald
Speaker 1: this week. He's all football. I man, hey, hey, comes
Speaker 1: in about his business. He wants to be good. He
Speaker 1: studies this playbook, he goes out and tried to execute
Speaker 1: on the field, and he tried to learn, which is great.
Speaker 1: I think all lot of rookies put their head down
Speaker 1: and been working a lot of compliments. Going out here
Speaker 1: for number four teen wearing read this week, we'll be
Speaker 1: wearing white against the Redskins Thursday night. I anticipate hope
Speaker 1: to play a lot, both him and Teddy Bridgewater. Well,
Speaker 1: Josh McCown play. Well, let's see. Well, last year at
Speaker 1: this time, which this feels like it's forever ago, the
Speaker 1: Jets at three quarterbacks on the roster, Josh McCown, Christian
Speaker 1: Hackenberg and Bryce Petty. And McCown did not play in
Speaker 1: the second game. In fact, Christian Hackenberg started games two
Speaker 1: and three of the preseason. So we'll see how it
Speaker 1: shakes out this Thursday when the Jets play the Redskins.
Speaker 1: But we have a fan question. Jake wants to know
Speaker 1: which unit performed better in the joint practices, the offense
Speaker 1: or the defense. Well, why are you explaining Green's how
Speaker 1: to set up right camp? Yeah? So, so basically is
Speaker 1: that there were two fields. At first, they were separate,
Speaker 1: they stretched separately, they did their individuals drill separately. Then
Speaker 1: when they came together, the Jets offense was on one
Speaker 1: on the same field as the Redskins defense. And then
Speaker 1: the Jets defense was on the same field as the
Speaker 1: Redskins offense. And then they flip flop and keep going
Speaker 1: from there. So and sometimes that was the set up
Speaker 1: in late in practice. In late in practice, you would
Speaker 1: see more ones versus ones one field right. Early in
Speaker 1: practice you would see ones versus two, twos versus ones,
Speaker 1: vice versa. Right. So to answer Jake's question, would Union
Speaker 1: performed better? I think that it's tough to say because
Speaker 1: there were so many moving parts. Here's what I'd say
Speaker 1: is that when the Jets pressured Alex Smith, when they
Speaker 1: had pads on, they played well in the secondary was
Speaker 1: getting their hands on balls and things like that. What
Speaker 1: I'd say is had also come back and at the
Speaker 1: flip end of the spectrum is that when Alex Smith
Speaker 1: has time, he's got some good weapons. And Jamal Adams
Speaker 1: talked about this after practice on Tuesday. He thinks he
Speaker 1: got better, Marcus may got better because they saw one
Speaker 1: of the better tight end combinations in the National Football League. Yes,
Speaker 1: Vernon Davis is a little bit up there in years now.
Speaker 1: I still remember him as a kid Greens, but you
Speaker 1: were probably seven when he was coming out. But Jordan
Speaker 1: Reed is one of the finer past catchers and football
Speaker 1: so I think that really helped the Jet safeties this
Speaker 1: week as a side. But when the Jets got pressure
Speaker 1: in the quarterback, they were winning. When Alex Smith had time,
Speaker 1: and like you could say this about most quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the National Football League, he did some damage. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wholeheartedly agree because when Alex Smith, I mean, Colt McCoy
Speaker 1: is a good player two and he's a backup that
Speaker 1: They've got a pretty nice back a quarterback duo there
Speaker 1: and Alex Smith and Colt McCoy. But Alex Smith, the
Speaker 1: Jets chiefs lash year. You saw it. He was on
Speaker 1: the money. He was scorching hot in the beginning of
Speaker 1: that game and then the Jets ended up winning thirty one.
Speaker 1: You give Alex Smith time. He's probably as dangerous as anyone.
Speaker 1: And but to answer the question who would unit performed better?
Speaker 1: I think that it goes day by day because there
Speaker 1: were times when Trumaine Johnson had a pick in the
Speaker 1: first day of camp on Sunday almost today. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that, because so Elx Smith got his
Speaker 1: team in scoring territory. They were like on the four
Speaker 1: yard line and the Jets held and turn them over
Speaker 1: on downs. But yeah, we can talk about that play.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the receiver. It wasn't Paul Richardson Josh
Speaker 1: and I don't know. Okay, let's say it's dockson whatever.
Speaker 1: He's running across right in front of the boundary, in
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone. And to me, Johnson
Speaker 1: jumped throughout each it went right through his hands. Well, well,
Speaker 1: I think about three he he knocked it, ended up
Speaker 1: knocking it down when it is hands and that out
Speaker 1: of it. But it was a great read by a
Speaker 1: veteran cornerback. Yeah, and then the Redskins ended up not
Speaker 1: scoring on that drive. And then later on in the
Speaker 1: same period, Donald went on the drive that we talked
Speaker 1: about before, but it was very good stand by the
Speaker 1: Jets defense. And then all right, shifting to Thursday's game, Now,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, we still gonna answer the question so offensively.
Speaker 1: The Jets had moments moments to um again and I
Speaker 1: hate to simplify it, but but it's hard to really
Speaker 1: break it down. I thought there were I think your
Speaker 1: main curse had a really nice a week. If we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about individual spotlights, I think Drrell Pryor
Speaker 1: had a good week too. He did, but he's still
Speaker 1: getting limited team reps right right. Well, I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about it as like it sounds like a cop out answer,
Speaker 1: but it sucks because it's hard to It's hard to
Speaker 1: answer the question because there's so many moving parts. Like
Speaker 1: you said, with the seven on seven and the individual
Speaker 1: and the splitting up, we're thinking more team. I think
Speaker 1: that's how I'm handling this question, more team. Curse is
Speaker 1: a guy that I think quarterbacks really love because he's
Speaker 1: physical and even if he's not getting much separation, he's
Speaker 1: gonna bail for that ball and he's gonna get his
Speaker 1: hands on it. When you look at Curse, he could
Speaker 1: lead a team and receptions again, and I'm looking way
Speaker 1: far ahead, but he's a kind of guy's gonna have
Speaker 1: six receptions for sixty two yards, where Robbie's a guy
Speaker 1: is gonna have three receptions for eighty seven yards. Because
Speaker 1: Robbie can make his Hey, it doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: he can go series. He can go to series. He
Speaker 1: can be like where's eleven and then the next thing
Speaker 1: you know, he's forty two yards down the field making
Speaker 1: a play. Yeah, I definitely agree with that. Terrell Prior, again,
Speaker 1: he had a couple of tremendous catches, none of which
Speaker 1: came in team periods. Man had a good week. We
Speaker 1: gotta talk about the running backs a very quickly. Is
Speaker 1: that Trent and Cannon was getting some work early and
Speaker 1: then it appeared that like he suffered either a foot
Speaker 1: or ankle entry. He was icening up a practice on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and Thomas Rawls got back into the mix this week,
Speaker 1: so he becomes the de facto three back, but again
Speaker 1: the Jets did not practice as Isaiah for a while.
Speaker 1: This week he makes the past reception against Atlanta in
Speaker 1: the seventeen nothing win, Teddy Bridgewater's first drive and he
Speaker 1: went in an end zone unfortunately suffered a head injury there.
Speaker 1: So other guys it was a very nice effort. However,
Speaker 1: it ended up being so that means Thursday. You talked
Speaker 1: about Thursday night. So George guy like, Yeahkinson, he probably
Speaker 1: gonna receive a lot of run Thursday. I would imagine
Speaker 1: Thomas Rawls would receive a lot of too, just because
Speaker 1: he didn't play in the preseason opener. Yeah. But the
Speaker 1: burning question here he is, who do you believe is
Speaker 1: going to start Thursday night? I got no idea, And
Speaker 1: listen like this, I'll tell you if McCown starts, will
Speaker 1: be out before you blank, right, So I don't know
Speaker 1: how quickly you blank, But if he starts, I'll beat
Speaker 1: to the sideline before you're not. Um. If he doesn't,
Speaker 1: then you would think that Sam Donald. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not a betting man at this point in my life.
Speaker 1: But Donald took most of the reps this week. He
Speaker 1: also took most of the first team reps. Um will
Speaker 1: not be surprised at all if he comes out or
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater comes out. I wouldn't anticipate they both play.
Speaker 1: But McCown, I don't anticipate he's gonna see much, if
Speaker 1: at all, any action. So who are you excited to
Speaker 1: watch play now in the second week of the preseason,
Speaker 1: whether it be someone that hasn't played yet or someone
Speaker 1: that played last week and you felt performed well and
Speaker 1: now you're curious to see how he stacks another opportunity
Speaker 1: under the life. Okay, so here's a guy who's I
Speaker 1: think what I think is coming on, and we're not
Speaker 1: just gonna talk about skills positions, So I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: about five names. Actually know are Darius Stewart. I think
Speaker 1: he is progressively gotten better, especially when the paths have
Speaker 1: come on. You have seen our Darius or Stut as
Speaker 1: everybody calls him, take his game to the next level
Speaker 1: with competition, and he made a hell of a play
Speaker 1: that I put on my Instagram showcasing his strong hands
Speaker 1: and how he texts the football. I think he's a
Speaker 1: crisp rout runner. I think he's aggressive. Uh. I think
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna miss the actually early in the season,
Speaker 1: but he's a guy to me. He's been ascending. Jonathan
Speaker 1: Harrison not a sexy name to the outside world, but
Speaker 1: he is going to be a big player for the
Speaker 1: Jets in terms of their depth and flexibility. Up front.
Speaker 1: He's been running with the twos at s behind Spencer Long,
Speaker 1: but this week with Brian Winters out, he's been running
Speaker 1: with the starters at right guard because Brian Winter spent
Speaker 1: out with an undisclosed injury. Finally, on the offensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball, you go brun Quality because Beacham is
Speaker 1: at home still in the boot, maybe got the foot injury.
Speaker 1: So Quality has been running with the ones at that
Speaker 1: left tackle position. So if I'm watching the Jets, of
Speaker 1: course I'm interested what seem Donald Teddy Bridgewater are going
Speaker 1: to do. But those three players on offense really jump
Speaker 1: out to me. Defensively, I always go outside linebacker, right
Speaker 1: bones Jones is a guy you gotta watch in the
Speaker 1: second half when he gets out because he just seemed
Speaker 1: to have a knack for finding the football. You another
Speaker 1: interception this week. He's your guy. Derick Jones a former.
Speaker 1: He's not just Mike. You tweeted, summer of Bones. If
Speaker 1: you guys, if a guy has four or five interceptions,
Speaker 1: it is a summer the guy props. I'm not denying it,
Speaker 1: but he's not just my guy. So so it had
Speaker 1: to me down the line at the cornerback position. But
Speaker 1: you know, we'll talk about roster battles, you know, as
Speaker 1: we get closer to cutdown day. But you look at
Speaker 1: the Jets at the cornerback position, they're gonna have some
Speaker 1: tough decisions to make, and Bones Jones is really making
Speaker 1: his case. Still. I still go to the the outside linebacker position.
Speaker 1: But big week for Mike Padell. Steve McClendon's back at
Speaker 1: the complex. He's not here um the veteran leader philosopher
Speaker 1: run stuffer for the New York Jets. So the Beasts
Speaker 1: number nine. He'll be lining up with the starters alongside
Speaker 1: Nathan Shepherd and Big Leal Leonard Williams of course, and
Speaker 1: then outside linebacker, continuing to see a lot of mixing
Speaker 1: the match. And there are your starters, Punsilodman right now
Speaker 1: would be Jordan Jenkins and Josh Martin, but again in
Speaker 1: some packages, jets getting long looks at your guy Frankie
Speaker 1: Louvu and Brandon Copeland of course, So I just throw
Speaker 1: a couple of names at five six and probably five
Speaker 1: six nine, I have a couple. So our producer Chris
Speaker 1: Sobbins is just sitting here with a phone throwing it
Speaker 1: in my face, telling me how long we've been on
Speaker 1: Right now, what is it naptime? Abbies? All right? I
Speaker 1: have to go with Jordan Leggatt because last year he
Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't hit the field, and like you
Speaker 1: said earlier, is that he had a couple of nice plays.
Speaker 1: And Tuesday's practice is the best best practice of training camp, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's his best practice of training camp. So I
Speaker 1: want to see what this guy has on the field
Speaker 1: under the lights, because Todd said he's just happy that
Speaker 1: leg it is healthy. Anthony Becks came on our live
Speaker 1: show at the Green White Practice. He said his best
Speaker 1: ability is availability, which you told me as a herm
Speaker 1: Edwards saying, I'm very interested to see what Jordan Leggatt
Speaker 1: does because I think that if healthy, he could be
Speaker 1: a good option for this team. So give me the
Speaker 1: offense and then well just off that. I want to
Speaker 1: see how Alford does because if Herndon doesn't play again,
Speaker 1: and there Donald Herndon connection is is getting hot and practice,
Speaker 1: how does that translate to the game. I'm curious Donald
Speaker 1: does throw this tight ends. He does like his tight ends. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean he's an equal opportunity guy, but that's impressive
Speaker 1: if I like that he goes to this tight end.
Speaker 1: My guy on defense is Nevill Hewitt because he had
Speaker 1: a great he had a great preseason opener, led the
Speaker 1: team and tackles, he had a pick. He's had a
Speaker 1: very good practice week here in Richmond. And then with
Speaker 1: Kevin Pierre Lewis not only one hurt and then two
Speaker 1: suspended for the first week of the season, could Nevill
Speaker 1: make a name for himself and keep on the roster
Speaker 1: as a backup linebacker through the preseason and be one
Speaker 1: of those guys who performs extremely well not only in
Speaker 1: camp but when the lights come on, and then make
Speaker 1: the team that way. Props to you. Listen, he guy
Speaker 1: he plays with a motor that I like, He talks runs,
Speaker 1: he plays special teams. Yeah yeah, so and then you know,
Speaker 1: special teams will get into later, but you always be
Speaker 1: watching and special teams because again, who's going to make
Speaker 1: those contributions there. That's how you make a roster, that's
Speaker 1: how you take the next step. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: listen Green's that's going fast. All right. That's all we
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