WEBVTT - Interview with Palestinian Prime Minister; New Charges for Hunter Biden 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:03.040 Good morning. 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:06.040 I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Amy Morris. Here are the 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:07.680 stories we're following today. 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:10.760 This morning, we are learning the Palestinian authority is working 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:14.000 with the US on a plan to run Gaza after 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:17.759 the fighting ends. Palestinian Prime Minister Mohammad stay I spoke 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.680 with Bloomberg News. He says his preferred outcome would be 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.520 to include Hamas as a junior partner in a post 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:25.079 war administration. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.520 If they are ready to come to ground, to an 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:32.520 agreement and really accept the political platform of the PLO, 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:36.320 accept the tools of struggle because this is an important 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:40.480 point of difference between us and them, and then there 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.320 will be a room for talk. Otherwise it's just simply 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:46.320 things will continue to be the same. 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.519 Prime Minister Mohammad Staya also tells Bloomberg he does not 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:53.320 believe Hamas can be eradicated by Israel. His comments are 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.200 at odds with the stated aim of Israel's military campaign 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.080 to wipe out the militant group following the deadly October 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.760 seventh terrorist attack. The war in Gaza so far has 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.880 killed more than sixteen thousand Palestinians. That's according to the 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.240 Hamas run Health Ministry. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.960 Now the major legal news breaking overnight in the US 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.200 that could be a new political headache for President Biden. 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.720 The president's son Hunter has been indicted on nine new 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.160 federal tax charges in Los Angeles. That's on top of 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.080 the federal gun charges he's facing in Delaware. We get 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.640 more from Bloomberg's David Voriakis. 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.920 It expands on an earlier agreement in which he would 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:32.800 have pleaded guilty in federal court in Delaware and in 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:37.760 July and avoided prison. Under this indictment, he could theoretically 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.960 be sentenced to as much as seventeen years in prison. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:45.560 What government alleges is, I will quote, the defendants spent 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:49.800 this money on drugs, escorts and girlfriends, luxury hotels and 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:54.000 rental properties, exotic cars, clothing, and other items of a 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.400 personal nature. In short, everything by his taxi. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.240 Bloomberg's David Voriaki says. These new charges come as House 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:05.600 Republicans plan to vote next week on formalizing their impeachment 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:09.640 inquiry into President. By this latest indictment against Hunter, Biden 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.960 does not offer evidence that the President benefited from or 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.000 was involved in his son's activities. 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.320 Also in the twenty twenty four election, Amy Republican Ron 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:22.640 DeSantis's campaign is dealing with more disappointing news, as Bloomberg said, 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.680 Baxter reports a fundraising event for the Florida governor tend 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:26.399 to be canceled. 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.440 About three thousand donors were invited to a Never Back 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.960 Down super Pack lunch and to be held before this 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.160 week's debate. A ten thousand dollars contribution would have given 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.760 donors access to the lunch where Casey Dessentis was scheduled 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.519 to speak, as well as a ticket to the debate itself, 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:46.240 and an invite to a post debate celebration with a governor. Well, 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.400 just a couple of days prior to the date, Never 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:54.040 Back Down decided to cancel. Scott Wagner, who leads the pack, 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:59.200 cited lack of interest. In November, a similar event raised 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.600 one million dollar dollar, aed Baxter, Bloomberg. 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.520 Radio Right, Thank You ed Elsewhere in politics, more fallout 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:09.040 for those IVY League presidents who struggled to denounce campus 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.080 anti semitism on Capitol Hill this week. The presidents of 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:16.200 Harvard and the University of Pennsylvania have issued statements clarifying 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:20.440 their positions, but now investment manager Ross Stevens has withdrawn 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.519 a one hundred million dollar donation that he had planned 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.600 to give to Pen. Those details from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:31.240 Stevens is co founder of stone Ridge Asset Management, and 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.680 he had pledged a stake in the firm to the 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:37.960 Ivy League University to fund the Stevens Center for Innovation 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:42.520 in Finance. According to a letter to university officials, Lawyers 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.800 representing the firm said the school had violated anti discrimination 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:51.160 and anti harassment policies it had accepted in order to 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:56.000 become an investor in New York. Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Radio. Okay, Charlie, 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:56.320 thank you. 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.120 Turning to markets, Investors are waiting for a critical data 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.400 point this morning, the November jobs report, coming ahead of 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.440 next week's FED meeting, their last of twenty twenty three. 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:08.200 Let's get a preview from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.840 We should be seeing signs of a slowing economy in 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.320 the labor market, but economists say not just yet. The 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.480 consensus forecast is November saw the pace of hiring pick up, 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:21.800 while unemployment was unchanged. About thirty thousand jobs won't be new, 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.320 they will just reflect the return of autoworkers to pay 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.680 rolls after the UAW strike, but hiring in healthcare, leisure 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:32.400 and hospitality and government should keep healthy numbers Beyond manufacturing, 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.760 markets are pricing a lower than anticipated number. However, so 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.120 strength could lead to higher rates as investors worry the 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:43.440 FED may not yet be done with rate hikes. Michael McKee, Bloomberg. 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.200 Radio, Mike, thank you. Turning overseas, the Japanese yen has 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.880 surged over the past day. Traders betting the Bank of 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.400 Japan will scrap the world's last negative interest rate regime 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.240 sooner than previously thought the advance and Japanese stocks and 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.240 bonds lower. At one point, the en jumped almost four 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:03.040 percent against dollar. Checking Japanese currency right now the end 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.880 at one forty four to twenty three against the dollar. 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.560 And elsewhere in Asia, Amy top communist leaders in China 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.680 are promising to strengthen fiscal policy and boost demand while 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:15.920 implementing a flexible and targeted monetary policy. China's state run 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.159 news agency reports officials dropped the word forceful, which was 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.119 included in previous policy. This came at a meeting chaired 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.839 by Chinese President Shi Jinping and. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.520 In corporate news. Back here in the US, the shakeup 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:31.840 continues at Spotify. Chief financial officer Paul Vogel is departing 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:35.120 after we'd already heard Spotify's head of marketing is heading 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:39.000 for the exits. The streaming company announced widespread layoffs earlier 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.239 this week, totally about fifteen hundred jobs. 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:47.560 And now we'll joining us with a look at some 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.599 of those other stories making news around the world. We 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.360 bring in Bloomberg's Michael Barr Good Friday morning. 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:53.800 Michael, Good morning to you. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:54.279 Nathan. 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.720 Gunfire outside of Jewish synagogue and upstate New York. It's 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:01.800 being investigated as a possible hate crime. Police said shots 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:05.279 were fired outside Temple Israel in Albany just hours before 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:09.080 the start of Honkkah. The synagogue's preschool was in session 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:13.200 and put on lockdown. Nobody was hurt. Very angry and frustrated. 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.440 Governor Kathy Hochel spoke out last night about the incident. 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:22.000 Any act of anti Semitism is unacceptable and undermine the 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:23.600 public safety at our synagogue. 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:27.400 The first night of Hanukah is even more deplorable. 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.320 Authorities took a twenty eight year old man in custody 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:34.000 for allegedly firing two rounds from a shotgun. Meanwhile, the 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.359 National Manora on the ellipse by the White House was 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.919 also lit last night. Since the October seventh start of 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.760 the Israel Hamas War, law enforcement agencies have warned of 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:48.960 a spike in anti Semitic and Islamophobic crimes in the US. 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.360 Police said gunman who killed three faculty members at the 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:56.200 University of Nevada, Las Vegas was an unemployed professor who 0:06:56.400 --> 0:07:01.000 stuffed his waistband with ammunition before beginning the attack. Authority 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.640 say sixty seven year old Anthony Polito brought a list 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.920 of targets, although those shot weren't on that list. Sheriff 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:13.440 Kevin mcmahill with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police. 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:17.440 Polino was armed with the Taurus nine millimeter handgun. He 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:21.760 had brought eleven magazines to the scene with him. Nine 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.920 loaded magazines were found on his person after the shooting. 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.960 Polito died in a shootout with police Wednesday, minutes after 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.360 opening fire inside of building housing a business school. A 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:38.280 fourth victim of visiting professor is hospitalized with life threatening injuries. 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.840 The White House says it is troubled by the Senate's 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.239 failure to move forward on a supplemental budget request. White 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.400 House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby says time he 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.000 is running out to provide more a to Ukraine in 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:51.200 its fight against Russia. 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:56.000 We've got a few more weeks here and then we're 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.480 out of Schlitz when it comes to help in Ukraine 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.800 with this kind of securities systems, so that we've been 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.600 able to provide, and that's just that that should be 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.920 unacceptable to everybody. 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:10.400 Admiral Kirby says. The emergency request, which also includes funding 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.600 for Israel and US border securities, being held up by 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.200 a small number of Republicans demanding what President Biden describes 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:21.040 as extreme border policies. Global news twenty four hours a 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.240 day and whenever you want it with the Bloomberg News Now, 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.800 I'm Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg. 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.400 Gaming and Mike, we can get much more Bloomberg News 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.640 right on your dashboard. The new Bloomberg Business app features 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:35.880 Apple Car Play, Android Auto. Get all the offerings that 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.920 we have on Bloomberg right in your car. Download the 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.679 Bloomberg Business App from the Apple App Store or Google Plays. 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:50.920 Presented by our sponsor Interactive Brokers, time now for the 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.320 Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you by Tri State OUTI. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:54.800 Good morning, John stash Hour. 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:55.400 Good morning Nathan. 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.400 When golfers began to leave the PGA Tour for the 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.840 new Live Tour, John Rahm was outspoken against the idea. 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:03.720 He said he doesn't play golf for the money, but 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.040 for the love of the game. Rom just joined the 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:07.840 Live Tour for a deal. It'll get him north of 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.439 three hundred million dollars. He's ranked third in the world. 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.760 The reigning Masters champ upset of the AFC Patriots was 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.160 just their third win of the season, first in six weeks. 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.280 They built up a twenty one to three lead midway 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.880 through the second quarter went on to win in Pittsburgh 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:24.240 twenty one to eighteen Bailey's zappy through three touchdown passes. 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.840 It'll be the Pacers and Lakers tomorrow night in Las 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:30.600 Vegas Championship game of the NBA's inaugural in season tournament. 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.440 Indiana beat Milwaukee and the Lakers blew out New Orleans 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.880 Islanders a seven three home win over Columbus. Devil's won 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.280 two to one at Seattle. Aaron Judge was on ABC 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.680 asked his reaction to the acquisition of his new teammate, 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:43.560 Juan Soda. 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:44.920 I'm excited. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:46.000 I'm excited. 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:46.200 You know. 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:47.959 It's he's a generational talent. 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:48.160 You know. 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.680 We gave up quite a few, you know, special pitchers 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.640 in the package. But I think everybody, everybody in Pinchrofts 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.080 is looking forward to having won Sodo Grissom, you know, 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.679 for do all those guys, you know, and so it's 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:02.240 going to be a fun year. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.680 GM Brian Cashman said the Yankees are in it to 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.000 win it. 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The Orioles have been owned by 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.720 the Angelos family since nineteen ninety three of Bloomberg report 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.080 that they could be for sale and in talks with 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.679 billionaire and Baltimore native David rubenstaff doms dash Ellen. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:30.360 Bloomberg sports. 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.000 From coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:40.400 Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on Sirisxam, the Bloomberg Business 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.000 app in Bloomberg dot Com. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:47.440 This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. What 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:51.680 comes the day after Israel's war with Hamas. The Palestinian 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:53.960 authority says it is working with the US on a 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.120 plan to run the Gaza strip after the fighting ends. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.760 One of its top leaders argues Israel's aim to fully 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:05.160 defeat the Palestinian militant group Hamas is unrealistic. Palestinian Prime 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:08.960 Minister Mohammad Staya says his preferred outcome would be for 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:13.439 Hamas to become a junior partner under the Palestine Liberation Organization, 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.680 helping to build a new independent state that includes the 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:21.080 West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem. Mohammed Staya spoke with 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.680 Bloomberg's Ethan Branner from his office in the West Bank. 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.880 Gaza is an integral part of the state of Banistlin right, 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:31.000 and the Balestinian territory includes Gaza, West Bank and Jerusalem. 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.920 So when we talk about two states, the geography of 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:37.920 the two states is Gaza, Jerusalem and the West Bank. 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:42.920 So this integral part of the Balistina territory should always 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:44.240 be there is there. 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:49.559 A fear of going in after this operation by Israel 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.680 that you're sort of following in on their tanks. 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:52.760 We start a concern. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.080 We said that we are not going to go there 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:58.800 on and Israelian militia what does it mean. It means 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:03.120 that for us there has to be an arrangement. Our 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:08.400 people are there and we need to put together structure 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.240 and we need to put together a mechanism. This is 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.439 something that we are working on with the international community 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:18.040 in order for us to make it possible. There were 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:22.839 there will be huge needs in terms of relief, reconstruction, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.520 to remedy the wounds, and. 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:27.280 Are you ready to take that on? 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.880 Not by ourselves, I mean, obviously we need international assistance, 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:33.400 but this. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.560 Is your plan, your planners that the PA would when 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:42.400 this thing ends, be the kind of vehicle for rebuilding Gaza. 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:46.520 By all means. Look, when Israel encouraged into Gaza in 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:51.920 twenty fourteen, who did all the reconstruction, and we were 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:57.680 still reconstructing Gaza. Most of the most of aspects of 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.440 infrastructure has been actually built by the Palatina Authority, and 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.440 even before the war, I should tell you that there 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:08.800 were there under implementation a total value of eight hundred 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:12.520 million dollars of infrastructure projects, that is and that has 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:18.840 been under implementation by US roads, hospitals, water networks, electricity, 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.440 desalination plants and so on. So we, as I told you, 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:26.079 we never abandoned Gaza. We never left Gaza. So now 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:30.240 any day after it should also include a package of 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.520 assistance with the full engagement of the international community, because 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:35.600 ourselves we cannot do it. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:36.559 A lot. 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:42.200 The relationship between the PA and Hammas is very complicated. 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.960 It's been there was after all, civil war, as you 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.480 said in two thousand and seven. But the Israeli say 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.200 they want to eradicate Hamas. 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.439 Is that a goal that is achievable? 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:56.520 Can you do it? 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:00.440 First of all, you know, we tried four times or 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:04.560 more to come to an agreement with Hamas, but it 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:09.880 didn't work and correct and we signed four agreements. Unfortunately 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.800 none of them was ever implemented by them by them, 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.920 and recently we have had a dialogue in Egypt and 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:21.160 an almen and we agreed on certain issues, we did 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.360 disagree on a number of issues, and we did form 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.280 a committee to keep them engaged. That was the idea, 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.680 but unfortunately all these sort of things has happened, and 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.480 then now things are going in a totally different direction. 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:34.360 Now. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.960 For Israel to say that they are going to eradicate 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.600 or eliminate Hamas, I don't think that's a possible goal 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:44.280 to achieve simply because Hamas is not in Gaza only 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:49.080 Hamas is in Libanon. Hamas in leadership, everybody knows in Kata, 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.760 and they're here in the Wost Bank and so on 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.960 and so forth. So what is needed really is a 0:14:56.000 --> 0:15:01.280 situation in which that Palestinian unity should be be allowed 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:06.200 to function on very clear the bonds and agenda. We 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.560 did put together certain bonds for Hamas to accept, they 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.640 never accept it, including the recognition of international legitimacy, United 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:17.000 National Resolutions, be a LO commitments and so on and 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.600 so forth. We even invited Hamas to become part of 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.880 the Ballistini and Balistan Liberation organ They never wanted to. 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.640 Hamas wanted to take things their own way, either their 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.880 way or the highway. And it seems that we are 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.880 on the highway. So that is where the situation is now. 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:38.960 As I said, whether Israel will be able to achieve 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.280 what they are claiming to do, I doubt that. 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.800 But on the other hand, in no way to say 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:48.480 that you are in favor of what's happening. The suppression 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.800 of Hamas ultimately needs to happen in some way if 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:53.640 they're not going to come into the pl of if 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:58.800 they're not going to foreswear their armed struggle and join 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.400 in some international see what needs to happen with Hamas. 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:03.960 What can you see happening? 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.120 Well, I think Hamas before October seven is one thing, 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:09.200 and Hamas. 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.200 After is a very good point. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.840 And so and therefore, I think if they are ready 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:17.600 to come to ground, to an agreement and really accept 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:23.880 the political platform of the blow, accept the tools of struggle, 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.800 because this is an important point of difference between us 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:31.720 and them, and then there will be a room for talk. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:36.440 Otherwise it's just simply things will continue to be the same. 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:41.800 And even Palestinians should not be divided. We have been divided. Unfortunately, 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:46.040 Hamas took over Gaza by force in two thousand and seven, 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.000 and this should not have lasted for seventeen years. 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:53.120 And that was the Prime Minister of the Palestinian Authority, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:57.480 Mohammed Staya, speaking with Bloomberg's Israel Bureau chief Ethan Bronner 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.520 from his offices in the West Bank, and Ethan is 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:04.680 here with us now from Tel Aviv. Much of that conversation, 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.400 much of what we heard there from the Palestinian Prime 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:12.600 Minister Ethan sounds so aspirational at this point in the war. 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.760 What's it going to take to get those aspirations to 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:17.720 become reality the day after? 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.840 Well, hello, Nathan, I would say that it's going to 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:27.920 take something superhuman. There is an incredible amount of bad 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.480 things ahead. First, it's hard to imagine. I mean, there 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.840 are several points here. One is that many people argue 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:38.119 that when there is a massive catastrophe, it can become 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:43.000 an opportunity. That terrible wars do lead to opportunities of rebuilding, 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.359 and that is essentially what Prime Minister's style was trying 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.760 to say. He's also repeating the Palestinie Authority on the 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:55.119 Palestine Liberation Organization's main contentions of recent years about what 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.320 needs to happen and why it hasn't happened, And one 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.480 can understand that. I think the problem is that the 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:06.280 Israelis are in complete disagreement. At least this Israeli government 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:11.920 under Prime Minister Nitanya, who considers Staya and President Abbas 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.520 to be unreliable partners. They do not want to see 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.560 They do not imagine that Hamas could be reformed and 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:23.120 come in. They want it destroyed. And also the idea 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:27.800 that Hamas after October seventh and after this war will 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.719 be more modern and more reformed, you know, in some 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.760 ways as counterintuitive. In some ways, what happened on October 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:37.960 seventh has been a revival for those who in the 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.920 Palestine community who believe in armed struggle and who believe 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.840 in confronting is remlitarily. So, you know, it's a lot 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.280 of pie in the sky for a lot of people. 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.760 But so is the Israeli perspective, which is that we're 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:53.400 going to destroy Amas and start over with the technocratic 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.040 leadership that's going to remind us of the UAE. So 0:18:56.280 --> 0:19:01.960 we have two very contradictory sets of goals and plans, 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.639 and the US kind of lending a little bit of 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:08.320 support to each side, and we'll see where this goes. 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:12.879 Yeah, it points to the idea of mediation when you 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.400 have this kind of massive gap, and this idea that 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:19.560 the Palestinian Prime Minister said to you in this interview 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.439 that the US is working with them on trying to 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:26.320 bridge this divide. How invested do you see the US 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:29.760 right now and the counteries, even with some of the 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.720 hostage negotiations that have happened in recent weeks, What is 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:36.280 the role of mediation with this kind of massive gap 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.640 between the Palestinians and the Israelis. 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.600 Well, let's leave the hostage negotiation and the countries on 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:46.080 one side, because that's an immediate need with people whose 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.600 lives are at stake at this moment, and that's been 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:50.719 going on quite intensely. We can talk about it if 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:54.159 you like later in terms of a mediation for the 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.600 day after the war and what's going to be the 0:19:56.640 --> 0:20:00.160 future of some kind of state of Palestine and what's 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.240 going to happen in the Holy Land. I mean, there's 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:07.159 been mediation from day one, and it has not especially succeeded. 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:08.479 You know. 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.359 I think it's true that right this moment that Palestinian 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:15.439 authority and the Israeli government are not in a position 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:17.720 to sit down across the table and talk to one another. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:21.119 They have nothing but to contempt for one another, and 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.119 so some outside help is needed. 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:23.400 Now. 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:27.720 I think the question is, you know, how much investment 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:31.040 is an American government interested in putting in. It's not 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.359 an easy task. It's not the only thing President Biden 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:38.960 has on his agenda, and not just not just internationally 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.000 but domestically. It's got an election coming up in a year, 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:45.240 so it's a little hard to mention. What the United 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:48.200 States has done has put together half a dozen people 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:52.720 between State, NSC and White House who are talking to 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.960 the Palestinian authority and the Israelis about this stuff. It's 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:00.479 kind of an attempt to lay out a plan so 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:02.800 that the day after doesn't come and we got nothing 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:05.720 to talk about. We haven't planned anything, but it's a 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:09.920 little bit of an act of academic theoretical work, because 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:12.040 we don't know when this war will end, or how 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:14.240 it will end, or what Gaza will look like. 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:19.119 The Prime Minister also talked about Hamasa's presence outside Gaza 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.000 and the West Bank, Lebanon and elsewhere. Is that a 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:26.480 hint that this war could expand beyond Gaza? 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:29.840 So I don't think that was his aim, but you're 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.160 right that it could. I mean, we have his Belah 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:36.119 bearing down from the north and from Lebanon on Israel, 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.040 and there's always that enormous concern. The reason that the 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:43.600 United States has sent to battle ship carriers with aircraft 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:47.200 carriers to the Mediterranean to send a message to his belah. 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:49.520 But I think also the point he was trying to 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:51.879 make is that you know, even if you kill everybody 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:55.560 who works for Hamas in Gaza, you still have leaders 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:59.280 in Katar and in Beirut, so you know, and that 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.520 it's some from within the fabric of Palestinian society, so 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:05.480 that this is an unrealistic goal. 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