1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Amy Morris. Here are the 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 3: This morning, we are learning the Palestinian authority is working 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 3: with the US on a plan to run Gaza after 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 3: the fighting ends. Palestinian Prime Minister Mohammad stay I spoke 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: with Bloomberg News. He says his preferred outcome would be 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 3: to include Hamas as a junior partner in a post 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 3: war administration. 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 4: If they are ready to come to ground, to an 11 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 4: agreement and really accept the political platform of the PLO, 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 4: accept the tools of struggle because this is an important 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 4: point of difference between us and them, and then there 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 4: will be a room for talk. Otherwise it's just simply 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 4: things will continue to be the same. 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: Prime Minister Mohammad Staya also tells Bloomberg he does not 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: believe Hamas can be eradicated by Israel. His comments are 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: at odds with the stated aim of Israel's military campaign 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: to wipe out the militant group following the deadly October 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: seventh terrorist attack. The war in Gaza so far has 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: killed more than sixteen thousand Palestinians. That's according to the 22 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: Hamas run Health Ministry. 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: Now the major legal news breaking overnight in the US 24 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: that could be a new political headache for President Biden. 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: The president's son Hunter has been indicted on nine new 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: federal tax charges in Los Angeles. That's on top of 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: the federal gun charges he's facing in Delaware. We get 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: more from Bloomberg's David Voriakis. 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 5: It expands on an earlier agreement in which he would 30 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 5: have pleaded guilty in federal court in Delaware and in 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 5: July and avoided prison. Under this indictment, he could theoretically 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 5: be sentenced to as much as seventeen years in prison. 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 5: What government alleges is, I will quote, the defendants spent 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 5: this money on drugs, escorts and girlfriends, luxury hotels and 35 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 5: rental properties, exotic cars, clothing, and other items of a 36 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 5: personal nature. In short, everything by his taxi. 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's David Voriaki says. These new charges come as House 38 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: Republicans plan to vote next week on formalizing their impeachment 39 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: inquiry into President. By this latest indictment against Hunter, Biden 40 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: does not offer evidence that the President benefited from or 41 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: was involved in his son's activities. 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: Also in the twenty twenty four election, Amy Republican Ron 43 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: DeSantis's campaign is dealing with more disappointing news, as Bloomberg said, 44 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: Baxter reports a fundraising event for the Florida governor tend 45 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 3: to be canceled. 46 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 6: About three thousand donors were invited to a Never Back 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 6: Down super Pack lunch and to be held before this 48 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 6: week's debate. A ten thousand dollars contribution would have given 49 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 6: donors access to the lunch where Casey Dessentis was scheduled 50 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 6: to speak, as well as a ticket to the debate itself, 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 6: and an invite to a post debate celebration with a governor. Well, 52 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 6: just a couple of days prior to the date, Never 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 6: Back Down decided to cancel. Scott Wagner, who leads the pack, 54 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 6: cited lack of interest. In November, a similar event raised 55 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 6: one million dollar dollar, aed Baxter, Bloomberg. 56 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: Radio Right, Thank You ed Elsewhere in politics, more fallout 57 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: for those IVY League presidents who struggled to denounce campus 58 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: anti semitism on Capitol Hill this week. The presidents of 59 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: Harvard and the University of Pennsylvania have issued statements clarifying 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: their positions, but now investment manager Ross Stevens has withdrawn 61 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 2: a one hundred million dollar donation that he had planned 62 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: to give to Pen. Those details from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 63 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 7: Stevens is co founder of stone Ridge Asset Management, and 64 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 7: he had pledged a stake in the firm to the 65 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 7: Ivy League University to fund the Stevens Center for Innovation 66 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 7: in Finance. According to a letter to university officials, Lawyers 67 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 7: representing the firm said the school had violated anti discrimination 68 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 7: and anti harassment policies it had accepted in order to 69 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 7: become an investor in New York. Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Radio. Okay, Charlie, 70 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 7: thank you. 71 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: Turning to markets, Investors are waiting for a critical data 72 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: point this morning, the November jobs report, coming ahead of 73 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: next week's FED meeting, their last of twenty twenty three. 74 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: Let's get a preview from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 75 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 8: We should be seeing signs of a slowing economy in 76 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 8: the labor market, but economists say not just yet. The 77 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 8: consensus forecast is November saw the pace of hiring pick up, 78 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 8: while unemployment was unchanged. About thirty thousand jobs won't be new, 79 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 8: they will just reflect the return of autoworkers to pay 80 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 8: rolls after the UAW strike, but hiring in healthcare, leisure 81 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 8: and hospitality and government should keep healthy numbers Beyond manufacturing, 82 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 8: markets are pricing a lower than anticipated number. However, so 83 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 8: strength could lead to higher rates as investors worry the 84 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 8: FED may not yet be done with rate hikes. Michael McKee, Bloomberg. 85 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: Radio, Mike, thank you. Turning overseas, the Japanese yen has 86 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: surged over the past day. Traders betting the Bank of 87 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: Japan will scrap the world's last negative interest rate regime 88 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: sooner than previously thought the advance and Japanese stocks and 89 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: bonds lower. At one point, the en jumped almost four 90 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: percent against dollar. Checking Japanese currency right now the end 91 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: at one forty four to twenty three against the dollar. 92 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: And elsewhere in Asia, Amy top communist leaders in China 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: are promising to strengthen fiscal policy and boost demand while 94 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: implementing a flexible and targeted monetary policy. China's state run 95 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 3: news agency reports officials dropped the word forceful, which was 96 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 3: included in previous policy. This came at a meeting chaired 97 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: by Chinese President Shi Jinping and. 98 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: In corporate news. Back here in the US, the shakeup 99 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: continues at Spotify. Chief financial officer Paul Vogel is departing 100 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: after we'd already heard Spotify's head of marketing is heading 101 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: for the exits. The streaming company announced widespread layoffs earlier 102 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 2: this week, totally about fifteen hundred jobs. 103 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: And now we'll joining us with a look at some 104 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 3: of those other stories making news around the world. We 105 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: bring in Bloomberg's Michael Barr Good Friday morning. 106 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 9: Michael, Good morning to you. 107 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 7: Nathan. 108 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 9: Gunfire outside of Jewish synagogue and upstate New York. It's 109 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 9: being investigated as a possible hate crime. Police said shots 110 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 9: were fired outside Temple Israel in Albany just hours before 111 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 9: the start of Honkkah. The synagogue's preschool was in session 112 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 9: and put on lockdown. Nobody was hurt. Very angry and frustrated. 113 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 9: Governor Kathy Hochel spoke out last night about the incident. 114 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 10: Any act of anti Semitism is unacceptable and undermine the 115 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 10: public safety at our synagogue. 116 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: The first night of Hanukah is even more deplorable. 117 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 9: Authorities took a twenty eight year old man in custody 118 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 9: for allegedly firing two rounds from a shotgun. Meanwhile, the 119 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 9: National Manora on the ellipse by the White House was 120 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 9: also lit last night. Since the October seventh start of 121 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 9: the Israel Hamas War, law enforcement agencies have warned of 122 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 9: a spike in anti Semitic and Islamophobic crimes in the US. 123 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 9: Police said gunman who killed three faculty members at the 124 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 9: University of Nevada, Las Vegas was an unemployed professor who 125 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 9: stuffed his waistband with ammunition before beginning the attack. Authority 126 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 9: say sixty seven year old Anthony Polito brought a list 127 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 9: of targets, although those shot weren't on that list. Sheriff 128 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 9: Kevin mcmahill with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police. 129 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 11: Polino was armed with the Taurus nine millimeter handgun. He 130 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 11: had brought eleven magazines to the scene with him. Nine 131 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 11: loaded magazines were found on his person after the shooting. 132 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 9: Polito died in a shootout with police Wednesday, minutes after 133 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 9: opening fire inside of building housing a business school. A 134 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 9: fourth victim of visiting professor is hospitalized with life threatening injuries. 135 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 9: The White House says it is troubled by the Senate's 136 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 9: failure to move forward on a supplemental budget request. White 137 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 9: House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby says time he 138 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 9: is running out to provide more a to Ukraine in 139 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 9: its fight against Russia. 140 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 12: We've got a few more weeks here and then we're 141 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 12: out of Schlitz when it comes to help in Ukraine 142 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 12: with this kind of securities systems, so that we've been 143 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 12: able to provide, and that's just that that should be 144 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 12: unacceptable to everybody. 145 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 9: Admiral Kirby says. The emergency request, which also includes funding 146 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 9: for Israel and US border securities, being held up by 147 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 9: a small number of Republicans demanding what President Biden describes 148 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 9: as extreme border policies. Global news twenty four hours a 149 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 9: day and whenever you want it with the Bloomberg News Now, 150 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 9: I'm Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg. 151 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: Gaming and Mike, we can get much more Bloomberg News 152 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: right on your dashboard. The new Bloomberg Business app features 153 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: Apple Car Play, Android Auto. Get all the offerings that 154 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: we have on Bloomberg right in your car. Download the 155 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Business App from the Apple App Store or Google Plays. 156 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: Presented by our sponsor Interactive Brokers, time now for the 157 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you by Tri State OUTI. 158 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: Good morning, John stash Hour. 159 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 9: Good morning Nathan. 160 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 13: When golfers began to leave the PGA Tour for the 161 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 13: new Live Tour, John Rahm was outspoken against the idea. 162 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 13: He said he doesn't play golf for the money, but 163 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 13: for the love of the game. Rom just joined the 164 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 13: Live Tour for a deal. It'll get him north of 165 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 13: three hundred million dollars. He's ranked third in the world. 166 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 13: The reigning Masters champ upset of the AFC Patriots was 167 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 13: just their third win of the season, first in six weeks. 168 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 13: They built up a twenty one to three lead midway 169 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 13: through the second quarter went on to win in Pittsburgh 170 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 13: twenty one to eighteen Bailey's zappy through three touchdown passes. 171 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 13: It'll be the Pacers and Lakers tomorrow night in Las 172 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 13: Vegas Championship game of the NBA's inaugural in season tournament. 173 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 13: Indiana beat Milwaukee and the Lakers blew out New Orleans 174 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 13: Islanders a seven three home win over Columbus. Devil's won 175 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 13: two to one at Seattle. Aaron Judge was on ABC 176 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 13: asked his reaction to the acquisition of his new teammate, 177 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 13: Juan Soda. 178 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 14: I'm excited. 179 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 7: I'm excited. 180 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 9: You know. 181 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 14: It's he's a generational talent. 182 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 12: You know. 183 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 14: We gave up quite a few, you know, special pitchers 184 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 14: in the package. But I think everybody, everybody in Pinchrofts 185 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 14: is looking forward to having won Sodo Grissom, you know, 186 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 14: for do all those guys, you know, and so it's 187 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 14: going to be a fun year. 188 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 13: GM Brian Cashman said the Yankees are in it to 189 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 13: win it. He says signing having Soto on the team 190 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 13: this season could help their chances of signing them to 191 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 13: a long term deal. He's due to be a free agent. 192 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 13: Cashman on Monday will be in California to meet with 193 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 13: Japanese free agent picture Yashinobu Yamamoto, and the Mets also 194 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 13: want to sign him. The Orioles have been owned by 195 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 13: the Angelos family since nineteen ninety three of Bloomberg report 196 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 13: that they could be for sale and in talks with 197 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 13: billionaire and Baltimore native David rubenstaff doms dash Ellen. 198 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 7: Bloomberg sports. 199 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 15: From coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 200 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 15: Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on Sirisxam, the Bloomberg Business 201 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 15: app in Bloomberg dot Com. 202 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. What 203 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 3: comes the day after Israel's war with Hamas. The Palestinian 204 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: authority says it is working with the US on a 205 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 3: plan to run the Gaza strip after the fighting ends. 206 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: One of its top leaders argues Israel's aim to fully 207 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: defeat the Palestinian militant group Hamas is unrealistic. Palestinian Prime 208 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 3: Minister Mohammad Staya says his preferred outcome would be for 209 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 3: Hamas to become a junior partner under the Palestine Liberation Organization, 210 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 3: helping to build a new independent state that includes the 211 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 3: West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem. Mohammed Staya spoke with 212 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Ethan Branner from his office in the West Bank. 213 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: Gaza is an integral part of the state of Banistlin right, 214 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 4: and the Balestinian territory includes Gaza, West Bank and Jerusalem. 215 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 4: So when we talk about two states, the geography of 216 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 4: the two states is Gaza, Jerusalem and the West Bank. 217 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 4: So this integral part of the Balistina territory should always 218 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 4: be there is there. 219 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 10: A fear of going in after this operation by Israel 220 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 10: that you're sort of following in on their tanks. 221 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: We start a concern. 222 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 4: We said that we are not going to go there 223 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: on and Israelian militia what does it mean. It means 224 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: that for us there has to be an arrangement. Our 225 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 4: people are there and we need to put together structure 226 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 4: and we need to put together a mechanism. This is 227 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 4: something that we are working on with the international community 228 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 4: in order for us to make it possible. There were 229 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 4: there will be huge needs in terms of relief, reconstruction, 230 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: to remedy the wounds, and. 231 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 10: Are you ready to take that on? 232 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 4: Not by ourselves, I mean, obviously we need international assistance, 233 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: but this. 234 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 10: Is your plan, your planners that the PA would when 235 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 10: this thing ends, be the kind of vehicle for rebuilding Gaza. 236 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 4: By all means. Look, when Israel encouraged into Gaza in 237 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: twenty fourteen, who did all the reconstruction, and we were 238 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 4: still reconstructing Gaza. Most of the most of aspects of 239 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 4: infrastructure has been actually built by the Palatina Authority, and 240 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 4: even before the war, I should tell you that there 241 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 4: were there under implementation a total value of eight hundred 242 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 4: million dollars of infrastructure projects, that is and that has 243 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 4: been under implementation by US roads, hospitals, water networks, electricity, 244 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 4: desalination plants and so on. So we, as I told you, 245 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 4: we never abandoned Gaza. We never left Gaza. So now 246 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: any day after it should also include a package of 247 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: assistance with the full engagement of the international community, because 248 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 4: ourselves we cannot do it. 249 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 7: A lot. 250 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 10: The relationship between the PA and Hammas is very complicated. 251 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 10: It's been there was after all, civil war, as you 252 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 10: said in two thousand and seven. But the Israeli say 253 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 10: they want to eradicate Hamas. 254 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 16: Is that a goal that is achievable? 255 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 10: Can you do it? 256 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 4: First of all, you know, we tried four times or 257 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 4: more to come to an agreement with Hamas, but it 258 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 4: didn't work and correct and we signed four agreements. Unfortunately 259 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 4: none of them was ever implemented by them by them, 260 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 4: and recently we have had a dialogue in Egypt and 261 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 4: an almen and we agreed on certain issues, we did 262 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 4: disagree on a number of issues, and we did form 263 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: a committee to keep them engaged. That was the idea, 264 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 4: but unfortunately all these sort of things has happened, and 265 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: then now things are going in a totally different direction. 266 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 7: Now. 267 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: For Israel to say that they are going to eradicate 268 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 4: or eliminate Hamas, I don't think that's a possible goal 269 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 4: to achieve simply because Hamas is not in Gaza only 270 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 4: Hamas is in Libanon. Hamas in leadership, everybody knows in Kata, 271 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: and they're here in the Wost Bank and so on 272 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 4: and so forth. So what is needed really is a 273 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: situation in which that Palestinian unity should be be allowed 274 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: to function on very clear the bonds and agenda. We 275 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 4: did put together certain bonds for Hamas to accept, they 276 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: never accept it, including the recognition of international legitimacy, United 277 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 4: National Resolutions, be a LO commitments and so on and 278 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 4: so forth. We even invited Hamas to become part of 279 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 4: the Ballistini and Balistan Liberation organ They never wanted to. 280 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 4: Hamas wanted to take things their own way, either their 281 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 4: way or the highway. And it seems that we are 282 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: on the highway. So that is where the situation is now. 283 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 4: As I said, whether Israel will be able to achieve 284 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: what they are claiming to do, I doubt that. 285 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 10: But on the other hand, in no way to say 286 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 10: that you are in favor of what's happening. The suppression 287 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 10: of Hamas ultimately needs to happen in some way if 288 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 10: they're not going to come into the pl of if 289 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 10: they're not going to foreswear their armed struggle and join 290 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 10: in some international see what needs to happen with Hamas. 291 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 16: What can you see happening? 292 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 4: Well, I think Hamas before October seven is one thing, 293 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: and Hamas. 294 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 7: After is a very good point. 295 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: And so and therefore, I think if they are ready 296 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 4: to come to ground, to an agreement and really accept 297 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 4: the political platform of the blow, accept the tools of struggle, 298 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: because this is an important point of difference between us 299 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 4: and them, and then there will be a room for talk. 300 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: Otherwise it's just simply things will continue to be the same. 301 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 4: And even Palestinians should not be divided. We have been divided. Unfortunately, 302 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 4: Hamas took over Gaza by force in two thousand and seven, 303 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 4: and this should not have lasted for seventeen years. 304 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: And that was the Prime Minister of the Palestinian Authority, 305 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: Mohammed Staya, speaking with Bloomberg's Israel Bureau chief Ethan Bronner 306 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: from his offices in the West Bank, and Ethan is 307 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 3: here with us now from Tel Aviv. Much of that conversation, 308 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 3: much of what we heard there from the Palestinian Prime 309 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: Minister Ethan sounds so aspirational at this point in the war. 310 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: What's it going to take to get those aspirations to 311 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: become reality the day after? 312 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 16: Well, hello, Nathan, I would say that it's going to 313 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 16: take something superhuman. There is an incredible amount of bad 314 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 16: things ahead. First, it's hard to imagine. I mean, there 315 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 16: are several points here. One is that many people argue 316 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 16: that when there is a massive catastrophe, it can become 317 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 16: an opportunity. That terrible wars do lead to opportunities of rebuilding, 318 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 16: and that is essentially what Prime Minister's style was trying 319 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 16: to say. He's also repeating the Palestinie Authority on the 320 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 16: Palestine Liberation Organization's main contentions of recent years about what 321 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 16: needs to happen and why it hasn't happened, And one 322 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 16: can understand that. I think the problem is that the 323 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 16: Israelis are in complete disagreement. At least this Israeli government 324 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 16: under Prime Minister Nitanya, who considers Staya and President Abbas 325 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 16: to be unreliable partners. They do not want to see 326 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 16: They do not imagine that Hamas could be reformed and 327 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 16: come in. They want it destroyed. And also the idea 328 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 16: that Hamas after October seventh and after this war will 329 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 16: be more modern and more reformed, you know, in some 330 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 16: ways as counterintuitive. In some ways, what happened on October 331 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 16: seventh has been a revival for those who in the 332 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 16: Palestine community who believe in armed struggle and who believe 333 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 16: in confronting is remlitarily. So, you know, it's a lot 334 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 16: of pie in the sky for a lot of people. 335 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 16: But so is the Israeli perspective, which is that we're 336 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 16: going to destroy Amas and start over with the technocratic 337 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 16: leadership that's going to remind us of the UAE. So 338 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 16: we have two very contradictory sets of goals and plans, 339 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 16: and the US kind of lending a little bit of 340 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 16: support to each side, and we'll see where this goes. 341 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it points to the idea of mediation when you 342 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 3: have this kind of massive gap, and this idea that 343 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: the Palestinian Prime Minister said to you in this interview 344 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 3: that the US is working with them on trying to 345 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: bridge this divide. How invested do you see the US 346 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: right now and the counteries, even with some of the 347 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: hostage negotiations that have happened in recent weeks, What is 348 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: the role of mediation with this kind of massive gap 349 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 3: between the Palestinians and the Israelis. 350 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 16: Well, let's leave the hostage negotiation and the countries on 351 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 16: one side, because that's an immediate need with people whose 352 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 16: lives are at stake at this moment, and that's been 353 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 16: going on quite intensely. We can talk about it if 354 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 16: you like later in terms of a mediation for the 355 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 16: day after the war and what's going to be the 356 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 16: future of some kind of state of Palestine and what's 357 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 16: going to happen in the Holy Land. I mean, there's 358 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 16: been mediation from day one, and it has not especially succeeded. 359 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:08,479 Speaker 9: You know. 360 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 16: I think it's true that right this moment that Palestinian 361 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 16: authority and the Israeli government are not in a position 362 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 16: to sit down across the table and talk to one another. 363 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 16: They have nothing but to contempt for one another, and 364 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 16: so some outside help is needed. 365 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 9: Now. 366 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 16: I think the question is, you know, how much investment 367 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 16: is an American government interested in putting in. It's not 368 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 16: an easy task. It's not the only thing President Biden 369 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 16: has on his agenda, and not just not just internationally 370 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 16: but domestically. It's got an election coming up in a year, 371 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 16: so it's a little hard to mention. What the United 372 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 16: States has done has put together half a dozen people 373 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 16: between State, NSC and White House who are talking to 374 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 16: the Palestinian authority and the Israelis about this stuff. It's 375 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 16: kind of an attempt to lay out a plan so 376 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 16: that the day after doesn't come and we got nothing 377 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 16: to talk about. We haven't planned anything, but it's a 378 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 16: little bit of an act of academic theoretical work, because 379 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 16: we don't know when this war will end, or how 380 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 16: it will end, or what Gaza will look like. 381 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 3: The Prime Minister also talked about Hamasa's presence outside Gaza 382 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: and the West Bank, Lebanon and elsewhere. Is that a 383 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: hint that this war could expand beyond Gaza? 384 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 16: So I don't think that was his aim, but you're 385 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 16: right that it could. I mean, we have his Belah 386 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 16: bearing down from the north and from Lebanon on Israel, 387 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 16: and there's always that enormous concern. The reason that the 388 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 16: United States has sent to battle ship carriers with aircraft 389 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 16: carriers to the Mediterranean to send a message to his belah. 390 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 16: But I think also the point he was trying to 391 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 16: make is that you know, even if you kill everybody 392 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 16: who works for Hamas in Gaza, you still have leaders 393 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 16: in Katar and in Beirut, so you know, and that 394 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 16: it's some from within the fabric of Palestinian society, so 395 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 16: that this is an unrealistic goal. 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