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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and Matt's time for the Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Football Focus. We talked a little bit about the Steelers

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Speaker 2: injury report. There no TJ Watt. It's some Lean Times

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Speaker 2: or something of Pat Farm. Yeah, you were just talking

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Speaker 2: about your team. I just mentioned that Jamal Williams got

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Speaker 2: activated from injured reserve today and he will officially play tonight.

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Speaker 3: He's dressing and going.

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Speaker 2: Dressing and going straight into it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Camara has gotten a massive work huge workload,

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Speaker 3: but I guess this hurts him because I kind of

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Speaker 3: thought Kendre Miller would be more of a factor than

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Speaker 3: he's bad. It really hasn't been out of sight, out

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Speaker 3: of mind really, so I would think Williams gets eight

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Speaker 3: to ten carries tonight.

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Speaker 2: I just loved he's already in our league, so somebody drafted.

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Speaker 3: Him a sat on him.

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Speaker 2: We're pretty the league is pretty damn deep. You got

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Speaker 2: twelve teams with with like, what do we got six

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Speaker 2: or seven bench spots, like there is nobody out there

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Speaker 2: right brutal. It's brutal, and you need guys because you're

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Speaker 2: you got Roashawn Johnson. He still didn't practice today.

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Speaker 3: And in the league we're in, I was hoping he

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Speaker 3: for whatsoever. But I mean, that's how bad it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I got priests all want to buy and

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Speaker 3: somebody else injured.

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Speaker 2: Good news for me because I'm sitting on Deontay Foreman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean I don't want to do with

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Speaker 3: that offense period.

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Speaker 2: Off It's going to be terrible. But it's it's either

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Speaker 2: that or I got to start Mac against the Browns

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Speaker 2: or not Mac the Colts.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, okay Moss Moss.

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Speaker 2: Used to be Yeah, yeah, Moss against the Colts. And

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do that because this might be

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Speaker 2: the week they found it could be.

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Speaker 3: I mean it could be a Taylor explosion day. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it's a really good defense.

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Speaker 2: And it's a good defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not somebody want to start at all?

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Speaker 2: Just not idea running backs up mess right now.

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Speaker 3: It's really bad. I mean, with six teams on buy

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Speaker 3: and all the injuries, quarterbacks, not a whole lot better. No,

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Speaker 3: it's not just to try to pick up somebody for

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Speaker 2: Really is, It really is. Juju Smith Schuscher with the

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Speaker 2: concussion was limited in today's practice for the Patriots. That's

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Speaker 2: good news for him at least means yes, getting the

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Speaker 2: ball rolling here. It's going through the concussion process. But

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Speaker 2: he's not fantasy relevant. But Hunter Henry is, and Hunter

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Speaker 2: Henry with the ankle did not practice on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's been one of the usable things from

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Speaker 2: And they're playing Buffalo this week. They're going to be

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Speaker 2: behind no Buffalo's inside linebackers right now, are Yeah, influx

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Speaker 2: a little bit? You'd like to have him outher would

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Speaker 2: would you think about playing Mike Kasiki this week if

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Speaker 2: Hunter Henry doesn't go. I know it's not ideal, but

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Speaker 3: I mean he has some big playability, so he could

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Speaker 3: get loose or something like that. I mean he's more

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Speaker 2: He's probably like I bet he's like three thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: I could see that. Ye see that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned Jamal Williams, Deebo Samuel not practicing on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: They play Monday though, so this is this is essentially

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Speaker 3: These Niners are sticky though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because Christian McCaffrey also not practicing on Thursday. We

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Speaker 3: I don't know either one of those guys attack this.

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Speaker 3: You know, like if we were doing Niners Nation Radio,

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Speaker 2: You got to make a move here, and you got

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Speaker 3: But like Jamal Williams is your only backup for McAffrey,

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Speaker 3: and like, I can't let that ship sail, ye, because

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Speaker 2: Which one would you if you've got if you're a

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Speaker 3: Mitchell just I've seen more of them over his career,

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Speaker 2: But they were they were both healthy last week and

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Speaker 3: Did, he did, And I do think none of them

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Speaker 2: And I mean, you're not going to replace him, but

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Speaker 2: Uh one. Del Robinson was a full participant in Thursday's practice,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And actually Hyatt's usage is growing too, Like they've

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Speaker 3: not five wide receivers fighting for three spots. Now, Wandel's

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley was limited again on Thursday, but that's been

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Speaker 3: They're gonna rest him, you know, right.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers designated Jalen Geiton to return from injury preserve

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a deep threat. I think they want to

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Speaker 2: No, Jimmy Garoppolo this week against the Bears.

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Speaker 3: He's been ruled out. Yeah, he's been rolled out, but

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Speaker 2: It's either going to be Brian Hoyer or Aidan O'Connell.

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Speaker 2: This is a game they can win.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a game they can win, and there's fantasy

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Speaker 3: goodness to be had, and the Bears defense has played

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Speaker 3: a little better late, but there's nowhere to go with up.

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Speaker 2: They were still able to at least run. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Hoyer was six or ten for one hundred and two

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Speaker 3: No, he was really good in the preseason two. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think what they've shown us,

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Speaker 2: And it's easier for the veteran like Hoyer to come

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Speaker 3: Maybe Hoyer is always the two. Yeah, no matter who

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Speaker 3: He's done it. It's hard being a two like.

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Speaker 2: You don't get it. You don't get many snaps.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. I mean. The Athletic has a new

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Speaker 3: podcast with Chase Daniel, the all time number two guy

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Speaker 3: for everybody, and today's podcast happened to be What's Life

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Speaker 3: of Number Two. He's like, most teams don't have three quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: Carolina has given permission to Terrace Marshall to.

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Speaker 3: Seek the trade. I don't know why. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Davonte Smith with a hamstring back at practice on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what I don't think is I don't

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Speaker 3: But the back seven for the Eagles is a real problem,

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Speaker 2: If team play drives and push Jalen Hurts into the

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Speaker 2: the end zone. Aaron Jones practiced on Thursday. He's still

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no hesitation there.

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Speaker 3: He played a long time, and the more you hear

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Speaker 3: Yes, I bet he's the squeaky wheel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Tyler Lockett was limited Wednesday for the Seahawks. We're

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Speaker 3: Say he was fighting something in that game, as well

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Speaker 2: He's always fighting. Did you see what he said about that?

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Speaker 3: We love you, dude. You're a great talent. We want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Zach Sharbonay didn't practice.

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Speaker 3: Keep us if you're in a shallower league, keep an

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Speaker 2: Uh ramondre Stevenson. The Patriots removed him from their very

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Speaker 3: That's any confidence starting him at this point. I don't

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Speaker 3: But I think he's an RB two yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: Know, if you get fifteen points out of him, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there are people giving up on much.

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Speaker 2: I bet he's cheap, he'll be he'll be he'll be.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's fifty five dollars, he's still a top

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get fifteen touches at least.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at least. They've had very very few, they've had none,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just feel like I would I would be

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Speaker 3: You can get them cheap. At this point, you can

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Speaker 3: mean there's all this talk that Warren could supplant them,

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Speaker 2: As I said at the beginning of the year, Warren's

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and he's good at what he does.

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Speaker 2: He's good at it. But if you're if you're winning, games,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. If if you think the game is going to

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Speaker 2: You probably should have done it last week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you trade for Pickens because people think you mean, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and he is, but his target share is bound to fall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it might, but his quality might be better.

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Speaker 3: I think he's proved himself that he's high quality. Dude.

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Speaker 3: I forget which network I was on or whatever. Somebody

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Speaker 2: With ups wide receiver threes with upside, I would say, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, I think they're somewhere between the twenty fourth and

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Speaker 2: I'd have to I'd have to think about it. You know,

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Speaker 3: I know, but I would still stick with him if

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Speaker 2: But you're a hundredcent right, I mean, and he's not

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Speaker 3: I mean no, there's tons of them.

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Speaker 2: You know, Chris Alave right now has not been super

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Speaker 3: Like you're starting him over Zay Flowers. I'm just kinda

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Speaker 2: Pickens has shown the ability to blow.

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Speaker 3: Up exactly exactly, and Deontay might get twelve targets, right.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing with Deontay. You're not looking for him

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he probably will win one of these next two

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean that's that's you know, that's the reality

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Speaker 3: He's a stash. You can't start him at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's had some injury.

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Speaker 3: I mean, to me, this is a big telling his word,

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Speaker 2: They've averaged this it's five catches for sixty three yards

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and I think frier Mouth's on even targeted

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean he's missed a game, but.

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Speaker 3: Right, I now, but that needs to be six game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what he was getting last year. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So you can't start him until further notice, but I

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Speaker 2: Those are some of the layups when we talk about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw it in the preseason. They did it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, we're gonna get to another break. He

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale, Allie. He is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt we're talking there previously about Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: Talked to him yesterday and he mentioned, you know, doing

440
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Speaker 2: some self scouting here, and.

441
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Speaker 3: I would imagine.

442
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,119
Speaker 2: Taking some plays out of the playbook that weren't working.

443
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 2: None of this matters unless he plays better.

444
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,199
Speaker 3: I mean that's true for every quarter you know, right,

445
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,679
Speaker 3: I mean, somebody's gout. You know, Jordan love that was

446
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 3: mentioned earlier by Labs. You know, all that stuff's lovely.

447
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,600
Speaker 3: But if he's not hitting open receivers and running the

448
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:49,120
Speaker 3: plays as structured and trusting his protection more, making more

449
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,439
Speaker 3: plays with his feet, you know, all the above, it

450
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 3: won't matter. Yeah, I mean, it just won't. I mean

451
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 3: that's just the nature of this sport.

452
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And I just look at this and think that,

453
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,680
Speaker 2: and you know, so much of this depends on the quarterback.

454
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 2: It's just the position is so important. And to Bob

455
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 2: Labriola's point in our previous previous hour, there teams miss

456
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 2: on this at a ridiculous rate all the.

457
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Speaker 3: Time, and top five picks alone, mid first round type guys. Yeah,

458
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 3: I mean it's it happens quick. I mean I mentioned Richardson.

459
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 3: It's much different because Pickett played a lot of football

460
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 3: coming out of college. But still Richardson could turn into

461
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 3: trade lance like that, you know what I mean, considering

462
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 3: how little he played, or hey, if Pickett stumbles or

463
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 3: mac Jones a perfect example. After his rookie year, he

464
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Speaker 3: looked like he was pretty strong footing, go in the

465
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 3: right direction.

466
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Speaker 2: Now there's a good chance to replace him after the season.

467
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Speaker 3: I bet he's not a starter for an NFL team

468
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Speaker 3: next year, Mac Jones, you know what I mean. And

469
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Speaker 3: Pickett might be a year away from that being your

470
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Speaker 3: fate before you know it. And we had to let

471
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Speaker 3: Bob go, but I wanted to bring him up. You know,

472
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Speaker 3: I know it's ancient history and times have changed one

473
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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty degrees. People don't wait around for Bradshaw anymore.

474
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 2: No, they don't Bradshaw I mean, And that's the one

475
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 2: thing that Steeler fans need to understand. Yeah, in seventy four,

476
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 2: when the Steelers won their first Super Bowl, Bradshaw was

477
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Speaker 2: not their full time starting quarterback.

478
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Speaker 3: He wasn't even the guy.

479
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he didn't start. You know, if you

480
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 2: look at that season. I'm just going to call it

481
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 2: up here.

482
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Speaker 3: I mean they used there was a rotation. Yeah, I mean, like,

483
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 3: I don't think they had a starter.

484
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 2: It was it was ugly. If you look at the

485
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 2: guys that they did start, you know, is Han Raddy,

486
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: Joe Gillim and Bradshaw.

487
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Speaker 3: It was three of them.

488
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: Joe Gillim started appeared in nine games and started six,

489
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Speaker 2: Terry Hanratty was three games and started one, and Bradshaw

490
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 2: was eight games and started seven.

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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe there was injuries involved, but that's a

492
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Speaker 3: lot of really plays. I didn't think there was, right, Yeah,

493
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Speaker 3: a lot of guys in and out of specific games.

494
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Speaker 2: Between the three of them, they threw twelve touchdown passes

495
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Speaker 2: and had twenty one interceptions.

496
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Speaker 3: And times were obviously different. But and that's when Bradshaw

497
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 3: was starting to get his feet under him. Yeah, Like

498
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 3: he was much worse than that before that. And even Ben,

499
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Speaker 3: I mean he didn't burst on the scene and was

500
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Speaker 3: a pro bowler right off the bat, you know what

501
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Speaker 3: I mean. I mean they won a lot of games

502
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Speaker 3: early on, obviously, but he was not carry the team

503
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Speaker 3: on his back. Ben that we remember, these are.

504
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Speaker 2: The things that kill me about that era is crazy.

505
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 2: That era. Yeah, the season the Steelers played fourteen games

506
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Speaker 2: in regular season, they had thirty three fumbles. Their opponents

507
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Speaker 2: had thirty.

508
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Speaker 3: Eight thirty eight.

509
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Speaker 2: The one, the one that really gets it if you

510
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Speaker 2: look up, like the seventy nine Steelers had like fifty

511
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Speaker 2: one fumbles that year.

512
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, and Bradshaw's turnover or touchdown. The interception ratio

513
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 3: boggles my mind too. And it wasn't even like considered

514
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 3: bad at the time Pro Bowlers, right, It's it's bonkers.

515
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Speaker 2: I mean, Gillam had five fumbles. Lynn Swann had five

516
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Speaker 2: fumbles that year. I'm just looking to see here. Frank

517
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: O Harris had nine fumbles that year.

518
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 3: We also fumble a lot. When Jack Tatum takes your

519
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Speaker 3: head off.

520
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: Well there's that. You get closed line and things. Could

521
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 2: you imagine if a running back had nine fumbles in

522
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Speaker 2: a game with fourteen and in fourteen games in this like,

523
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Speaker 2: you wouldn't be playing.

524
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Speaker 3: No, it's like twelve fumbles for the year, you know,

525
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 3: like every couple of you know, every third game you

526
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Speaker 3: don't fumble.

527
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but they got by that year because Ernie

528
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Speaker 2: Holmes at eleven and a half sacks Elsie Green would

529
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Speaker 2: had eleven sacks. Joe Green, Well, they Pro Football Reference

530
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Speaker 2: went back and looked at all the tape from this.

531
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Speaker 3: I knew somebody did.

532
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Speaker 2: Now is this for your defensive line, your front four?

533
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 2: Ernie Holmes at eleven and a half, Elsie Green would

534
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Speaker 2: had eleven, Joe Green had nine, and Dwight White had

535
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Speaker 2: eight and a half.

536
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Speaker 3: Fourteen games, and I'm sure run past percentage was nothing

537
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Speaker 3: like it is today.

538
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Speaker 2: You got forty sacks out of your front four.

539
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 3: Now, your front four probably never blitz you didn't have to.

540
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Speaker 2: And us but Andy Russell had five sacks, Steve Steve

541
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Speaker 2: Ferness had three, Lambert had two. I mean they just

542
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: got wow.

543
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Speaker 3: So in I didn't realize that.

544
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Speaker 2: Had fifty two sacks and fourteen games.

545
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Speaker 3: Wow.

546
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 2: And they and they forced thirty eight fumbles.

547
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the brutality in holding onto the football

548
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 3: was a lot more difficult. Yeah.

549
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Speaker 2: And while they had twenty five, they threw twenty five

550
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Speaker 2: interceptions their opponents through twenty one.

551
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Speaker 3: Wow. So I mean every game had one or two.

552
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Speaker 2: Basically this is what was So this is what Steeler fans.

553
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Speaker 2: Older Steeler fans grew up watching like this was defensive

554
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Speaker 2: football back then.

555
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Speaker 3: I mean, I get it.

556
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Speaker 2: Younger fans grew up watching the Steelers, the Steelers in

557
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Speaker 2: the two thousand.

558
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Speaker 3: Era, which has changed dramatically too. Yeah, I mean Bob

559
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Speaker 3: was talking about Casey Hampton.

560
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different era now. Yeah, I mean, so

561
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Speaker 2: football evolves, and we might be seeing another evolution right

562
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: now with this in the young quarterbacks. And nobody wants

563
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: to sit around and wait for these guys to develop

564
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,120
Speaker 2: because you can't because of the South.

565
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 3: Because of salary cap. You have to make decision now.

566
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Speaker 3: And yeah, the fifth year. We talked about this a

567
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: lot of the off season. The fifth year option is nice,

568
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: but it's not a no brainer. Most teams don't exercise

569
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Speaker 3: a fifth year option. It's more expensive than you think.

570
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Speaker 3: It really, isn't that team friendly unless you have a

571
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Speaker 3: stud Yeah, Micah Parsons, you know you think have a

572
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Speaker 3: fifth year option.

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Speaker 2: Outside of Geno Smith, though, can you think of it?

574
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 2: I guess maybe Tanny Hill to a certain degree, the

575
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: like reinvented themselves, guys that reinvented themselves. We might be

576
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: seeing that with Baker Mayfield. But I don't know that

577
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: he's out of the water yet. Do you think bakders Woods,

578
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: I should say.

579
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Speaker 3: Like, do you think Baker is a starting quarterback next year?

580
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Speaker 2: No?

581
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, then I don't think he counts. Yeah, I mean

582
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 3: he's he kind.

583
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Speaker 2: Of could be. I mean there's a lot of season left,

584
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 2: and there's yeah three and two. I mean they've had

585
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: their buy He's played one bad game against a good defense.

586
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Speaker 3: Like it's not going to happen for Mariota or no,

587
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: they're done. Yeah, like Winston might. I mean, if Carr

588
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: were to get hurt, I could see him having.

589
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 2: It's not as young as you think anymore.

590
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I'm not trying trying to think of

591
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 3: an old guy that might.

592
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: I mean not that. I mean Gino Smith was in

593
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 2: his thirties when he got his second chance.

594
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and like rich Gannon and plunk it and

595
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: that used to happen in history here and there. But no,

596
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Speaker 3: I mean, and you wonder, boy, what if Trubisky really

597
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 3: got a chance, or Winston or you know, somebody that

598
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 3: has obvious talent and found the error in their ways

599
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: on the bench and grew up.

600
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Speaker 2: And started seeing the game a little different.

601
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Speaker 3: Ever it is.

602
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Speaker 2: I think that's a big part of it. You see

603
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: the game differently. The longer you're around it, you have

604
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Speaker 2: a better understand. Okay, this is where the ball needs

605
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Speaker 2: to go.

606
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if I knew then what I know now.

607
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: You know that type of thing and.

608
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: You just don't get that chance very often today's NFL.

609
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Speaker 3: And frankly this applies to Kenny. I mean, if his

610
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Speaker 3: second half of the season or second two thirds of the

611
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: season goes like what we've seen in twenty twenty three,

612
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Speaker 3: you have to consider a first round quarterback. I mean

613
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Speaker 3: you have to consider it. I'm not saying it's gonna happened,

614
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 3: but you have to consider it if you're picking tenth.

615
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: See, I don't think they will be though.

616
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: I don't either, you know. I mean, they have a

617
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: winning record.

618
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 2: Is as crazy as everything has been around, and the

619
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 2: numbers aren't great and all that stuff. He's still ten

620
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: and seven as a starter.

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Speaker 3: No, I know. I mean it would take a lot

622
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Speaker 3: for them to get away from him this year. Yeah,

623
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Speaker 3: I'm not implying that they will.

624
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Speaker 2: I don't think he make that decision this offseason. I

625
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 2: think that would be a next offseason decision when you

626
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: have to pick up that fifty year option.

627
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: But if he's a disaster this year, I don't know.

628
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: You can just run it back.

629
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Speaker 2: If he's a disaster this year, then then you would

630
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Speaker 2: be in a position you.

631
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Speaker 3: Might be picking tenth and you know, get you're talking

632
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Speaker 3: about the third quarterback.

633
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: But I don't know that could be. I mean, I

634
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: just I don't see it. The roster around him, whether

635
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: people want to believe it or not, is actually.

636
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 3: Good and they have a winning record and they have

637
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: a winning record. Ye would sense to forget that part. Yeah,

638
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: but they do have a winning record.

639
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what it would be. I mean,

640
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 2: does he go out and throw twenty interceptions the rest

641
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: of way? I don't think that's going to happen.

642
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 3: But what people don't think about, though, is like if

643
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 3: Justin Fields misses a long stretch his he may not

644
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: be a starter next year for anybody. I mean, the

645
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: Bears are different because they right now with the first

646
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: and second pick, so you almost have to take a guy.

647
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 3: But like if from what I'm told, and I don't

648
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: know if there's any truth to this, but if what's

649
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 3: his face the Bama quarterback went first overall, short dude

650
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 3: went to Carolina went to the Panthers trout No Young

651
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: right that if Young would have been six ' four,

652
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 3: the Bears would not have traded out of the first spot,

653
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: even with Fields a total unknown, you know, like he

654
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: flashed a year ago. He did good stuff. He was

655
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Speaker 3: hard to play against.

656
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: But but I think sometimes that's where you get into trust,

657
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: like Arizona with Rosen. Now it proved, it's proven thus

658
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: far that they're correct moving on from Rosen. But then

659
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Speaker 2: they hits your wagon to Kyler Murray and I don't

660
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: know that that was the guy who hits your wagon to.

661
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: No And the mistake they made is they paid him

662
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: fortune a year early. He didn't have to do it

663
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: when they did it, you know, and nobody was gonna

664
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: get hurt. But you had to suspect that his size

665
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: and the way he played he had been hurt. You he's

666
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: a better chance than Joe average quarterback.

667
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the conundrum that you that you

668
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: have right now, especially with some of these running quarterbacks.

669
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray is Kyler. He's coming back from a torn ACL.

670
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: Is he the same quarterback that he was pre torn ACL?

671
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: Can he still run two weeks amo he's on the field.

672
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if Yeah, I don't know if he's

673
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: still going to be the dynamic runner that he is.

674
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: And if he's not, is he good enough in the

675
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: pocket to then be that guy. There's a reason why

676
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: the Ravens made the moves that they did and moved

677
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: on from from Roman. They didn't want Lamar Jackson to

678
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: have to run the ball fifteen times a game. Now

679
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: they're doing that.

680
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: Now because they're struggling. They're struggling going back to what

681
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: they do well, yeah, and they're hoping to get away

682
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: from that.

683
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: I mean that the Bears didn't want fields running like that,

684
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: or they he would have been running like that in

685
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: the first part of the season. It hasn't until like

686
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: the last two weeks that he started running again because

687
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: they said, well, look, we can't move the football. Yeah,

688
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: if he doesn't.

689
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 3: Run like I think about Cam Newton a lot like

690
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: Cam Newton won an MVP, took us see him to

691
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. They lost one game before losing that

692
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: Super Bowl.

693
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: He's out of the league less than five years later, and.

694
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: When his contract was up, it was do we invest

695
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 3: in this guy that treats his body like a battering

696
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: ram And and then he didn't last, you know, I

697
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: mean it was great while he lasted, but you're eight, nine, ten,

698
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 3: weren't the same or he wasn't even in the league.

699
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: He wasn't the same after the game here against the

700
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: Steelers with yeah, TJ. Watt basically separated his shoulder. Yeah,

701
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: and he's never the same.

702
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: So again, having a quarterback on a rookie deal is

703
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: one of the best advantages in this league. But that

704
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 3: window closes now. Yeah, I mean, if you can, oh,

705
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: he had a rough rookie year, he'll be okay, you know,

706
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: even Bryce Young Okay, Okay, you a great rookie year,

707
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 3: or you have a bad rookie year, nothing's around you.

708
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: We can excuse it all the way. Year two, you

709
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: don't have a first round pick, gets a little bit

710
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: bet or now it's time to say, now you do

711
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: have a first round pick the year after that and

712
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: it's fifth overall, should we just sake another one?

713
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: This is this is how Daniel Jones ends up making

714
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: forty plus million dollars or Kirk Cousins ends up making

715
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: you know the money that he's making, And is.

716
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: That the right move either? I mean, you don't want

717
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: to be the team that says, well, we should pay

718
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 3: our guy because who else can we get. Well, you

719
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: can get others, you know, but it's harder than people think.

720
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: The thing that brought up to Jordan Love, Yeah, that's

721
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: a really weird one. Yeah, you know, like he has

722
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: to be great this year to invest in him.

723
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: The thing is that's so frustrating with Picket and also

724
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: but also gives you hope is that you see the

725
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: late game play and you're like, Okay, if he could

726
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: do that the entire game, now you got something. I

727
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: don't know how you spark that though, right, And.

728
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: We surround him with expensive things that we can afford

729
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: and I can, which is fine. But going back to

730
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: like Sando's tiers, and those tiers aren't gold. But if

731
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: I think it's a good way to look at it,

732
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: I mean, if if your guy is in contract time,

733
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: whether it's year four or after his first deal or

734
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: after a second deal, I mean, and he's a Tier

735
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: one guy, here's a blank check book. You know, whatever

736
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: we he will make everyone around them better. Tier two

737
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: guys you can't let go. I mean, but Tier three

738
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: guys that you pay almost always hurt you. Yeah, can

739
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: pick it be a tier two, although by then there

740
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: were people who would have put Jared Goff in that tier, right,

741
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: and he has advanced himself into maybe being a tier

742
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: two guy. Yeah, I mean there are people are allowed

743
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: to get better. Yeah, but that was so smart by

744
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: the Lions, Like we are rebuilding, We're going to trade

745
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: you Stafford.

746
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: I mean last Hicks last year. You know, we're still

747
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: talking about, Well, is Jared Goff going to be their quarterback?

748
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: You know three years from aunt No, right, they'll move

749
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: on for him. Well now I don't think they will.

750
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: Either, And they did draft turned to Knooker.

751
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

752
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: You I mean he's sitting there too as insurance because

753
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: they got all these extra picks for Stafford.

754
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: You know.

755
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: So that's a nice way to do it.

756
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: But you got to have a guy that people want,

757
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: you know, to be able to make a trade like that.

758
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: I just look at Pickett, and you know there's a

759
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: skill like right now, I don't believe Justin Herbert, as

760
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: good as he is, has that skill to lead a

761
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: team back in the fourth quarter. I don't think that's

762
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: his strong suit.

763
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: It's my only concern with him.

764
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: Right on the other on the other side of it, though,

765
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: Pickett has shown the ability to do that consistently.

766
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and that's certainly when you're doing the columns,

767
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: like you scout any positives or negatives, maybe atop the positive.

768
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: I mean, which would you rather have the quarterback who

769
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: does plays his best in pressure situations, or the quarterback, Well,

770
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: he throws the ball over the field and he looks great,

771
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: and then you know, we end up losing the game

772
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty three. I don't know, because you

773
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: if you're if you're a better team, maybe you figure

774
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: out ways. Okay, well, we're just gonna go out and

775
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: score thirty five points a game and we don't have

776
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 2: to worry about somebody coming up or coming back on us.

777
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: But last playoffs happened. Oh sure, they were up twenty

778
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: one points against the Jaguars and lost that game. With

779
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: Herbert a quarterback, and all of a sudden, he can't

780
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: complete a pass. They can't they can't make their offense function, right.

781
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 3: I have no concerns about Herbert. I mean, like Herbert

782
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 3: versut picket to me. He's not even close to a conversation.

783
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: That's a concern for me, though with him.

784
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 3: It's my only concern. But I'll take my chances ten

785
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: out of ten times with that guy. But I understand

786
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: your argument for sure. I just say, a young quarterback

787
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: that's loaded with talent, but he isn't winning anything, you know.

788
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: I think knowing how to close games out, how to

789
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: win games skill to that. It's a definite skill. And

790
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: that was one of Ben Roethlisberger's greatest skills. He could

791
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: look like garbage for three quarters and then all of

792
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: a sudden, the fourth quarter comes around, you're down fourteen points.

793
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: The next thing, you know, you win because it turns

794
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: on for him.

795
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I do think clutch is

796
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: a real thing. It's not a myth or any of

797
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 3: those times.

798
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I don't know what it is.

799
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the guy who's all you know, I'm

800
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: taking the last You know, you always get the ball

801
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: to that guy because he's gonna take the last shot

802
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: and he's gonna make it.

803
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if you saw the Nike special,

804
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: but it was cool. How what's his face? Saw Jordan

805
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 3: when he before he took that last shot because he

806
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: knew he was gonna take it and was didn't phase

807
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: him one bit. It wasn't like he was itching or

808
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: scratching career. That's per guy, I know, I know, but

809
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: like it was cool that he just loved Jordan's body language,

810
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: facial expression, knowing he's gonna take the biggest shot in

811
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 3: the biggest game as an eighteen year old or whatever,

812
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: and he looks like it's just any other Tuesday.

813
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: And you're gonna miss some of those shots.

814
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: But then he's gonna take the next one.

815
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: He canna take an next one, right, you know, yeah,

816
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 2: you know, shoot or shoot and quarterbacks who win, who

817
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: know how to win games. Again, I just think that's

818
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: such a The clutch gene is huge, but you gotta

819
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: be able to bring the rest of it all out

820
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 2: of him.

821
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean what he's doing now isn't

822
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: good enough. Yeah, what he could do absolutely could be

823
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 3: good enough.

824
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: You'd love to just you'd love to have to have

825
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: those comebacks, of course, of course, but it is nice

826
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: to have the ability to come back and you have.

827
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 3: To of course. I mean, yeah, without question. The book

828
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: is far from written on Pickett, and frankly I thought

829
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: by mid to late October it would be more written.

830
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: In year two, I think I think we're going to

831
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: see that the next game. I think then that's why

832
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: I think the next three weeks are going to be.

833
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: Telling pivotal like I don't want to hear, well, you

834
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: don't have your guys or you don't know the offense

835
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: or the defenses were way too hard. Like no, I mean,

836
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: go be a good quarterback, be the B fifteenth in

837
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 3: EPA this week and next week in the next week.

838
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 3: Not yeah, I'll take that.

839
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you don't have to be Patrick Mahomes. Yeah,

840
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: but you can't be Daniel Jones.

841
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Herbert's a good example. He played poorly Monday night.

842
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: I mean there were throws he usually makes that he didn't.

843
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: I mean, the same Borough miss throws he usually makes,

844
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 3: Party miss throws he should have made. It was a

845
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: weird week across the league, okay. I mean if you

846
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: have a game like that, everyone has a game like that.

847
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: If flush it, you move on. But you better start

848
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: stringing together some some you know, good game.

849
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: We bank on. You know what do you bring to

850
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 3: the table nine out of ten times?

851
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

852
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 3: You know?

853
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,520
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862
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863
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: Didn't he catch a bomb touchdown in the Super Bowl?

864
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: That counts? Right?

865
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,920
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869
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870
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly, and you're listening to

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Speaker 2: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt, I

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Speaker 2: still think the Steelers can win with their defense this week.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I think I would love to see the offense put

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Speaker 2: out put forth a good showing in this one. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I agree with it with with

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Speaker 2: Bob Labriel or our guests from the previous hour that

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Speaker 2: they need to go out and score twenty eight points

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Speaker 2: in this game they score four touchdowns. I don't think

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Speaker 2: that's the way they're built to play. I don't think

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Speaker 2: they want to play that way.

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Speaker 3: I fear Nakua and Cup especially a great deal, and

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Speaker 3: I think that's a huge matchup to the Rams. Favor

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Speaker 3: that Stafford and McVeigh will exploit as much as anyone.

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Speaker 3: But that being said, I think Stafford's going to get

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Speaker 3: hit a lot. Yeah, and I don't expect him to wither.

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Speaker 3: He is a star, He's as tough as they come.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know that he's gonna be able to

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Speaker 3: hold the ball for big plays. And I think he

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Speaker 3: is going to get hit a lot. And I could

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Speaker 3: certainly see tip balls or fumbles in the pocket, things

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Speaker 3: like that. I think Watt and high Smith both could

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Speaker 3: have really big games. And Stafford's a good athlete on

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Speaker 3: his best day, but his best athleticism days are behind him,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, yeah, now he's gonna he's not

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Speaker 3: the most mobile. I mean, he feels things well. But

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Speaker 3: and frankly, I really think a key here is Kenny,

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Speaker 3: don't turn the ball over. You know, let's let's get

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Speaker 3: some yardage on early downs, let's keep you out of

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Speaker 3: third and longs. Don't turn the ball over. And I think, well,

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Speaker 3: they should be able to move the ball, not necessarily

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Speaker 3: twenty eight points, move the ball, but move the ball

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Speaker 3: against his defense.

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Speaker 2: No, I think they will be able to as well.

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Speaker 2: And you know, this is a team that's giving up

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Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty yards per game. You know, they

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Speaker 2: haven't faced a team.

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Speaker 3: It's just out of talented defense.

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Speaker 2: Quite you know, quite like this in terms of defensively,

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Speaker 2: every every team, even the Raiders have a better defense,

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Speaker 2: yes right now than the Rams they do.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's just a bunch of guys that's

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Speaker 3: well coached and they don't have a lot of a

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Speaker 3: lot of arrows in their quiver. You know. For the

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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, we have to kind of play a certain way.

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Speaker 3: You know, hopefully the offense screwed things up. We want

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Speaker 3: to we want them to have long drives and we

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Speaker 3: saw the Steelers do that last year. I mean the

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Speaker 3: second half of the Ravens games so reminded me of

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Speaker 3: the last year Steelers. And if they play that style.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we forget that. They're they're coming off of playing

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Speaker 2: their best half of football this season.

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Speaker 3: Right, no doubt. And it was looked like last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's run the ball, let's be physical, don't turn the

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Speaker 3: ball over. And I think that makes you very competitive

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Speaker 3: in this game.

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Speaker 2: So here are the opponent opposing scores Like this is

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Speaker 2: why I don't think you want to play this game

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Speaker 2: in the high twenties.

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Speaker 3: In a high risk environment, Seattle, Seattle.

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Speaker 2: They went. The Rams went to Seattle, won that one,

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Speaker 2: thirty to thirteen. They lost to San Francisco thirty to

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Speaker 2: twenty three. They lost to the Bengals nineteen sixteen, and.

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Speaker 3: That was a more tight than they you know, Burrough

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Speaker 3: wasn't Borrow yet.

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Speaker 2: You know, they won an overtime against the Colts twenty

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Speaker 2: nine to twenty three.

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Speaker 3: So there was an extra, an extra yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles beat them twenty three to fourteen, and then

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Speaker 2: they beat the Cardinals twenty six to nine. Like, I

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Speaker 2: want to play this at my pace, not theirs. They

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Speaker 2: want to get out there and throw the football over

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Speaker 2: the place. I don't want to let them do that.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to let them, But it doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but if I can limit their possessions and

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Speaker 2: get a couple of you know, get some three and

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Speaker 2: outs early and go down to you know, BEA's the football.

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Speaker 3: All love you reading off the scores, and here's why.

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Speaker 3: But the exception of the Bengals game, whoever won score

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Speaker 3: a lot of points in the Rams games.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Eagles twenty three to fourteen. That's not exactly.

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Speaker 3: That's not as much of a barn Burners I thought then.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean there's been a fair amount of

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Speaker 3: points scored in their games.

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Speaker 2: I mean they've scored thirty twenty three, sixteen twenty nine,

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Speaker 2: fourteen twenty six. The games that they've won are the

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Speaker 2: ones where they've scored, where they've gone out and scored

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Speaker 2: a bunch of points. I don't want to let them

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Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to turn this into a track meet.

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Speaker 3: No, I agree. I mean I don't think that's a

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Speaker 3: style that the Steelers can win really against anyone.

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Speaker 2: Want to make them play my style of football.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'd really like to see time of possession

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Speaker 3: get better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you'd like to. You'd like top if

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Speaker 2: you go out there in this game and hold the

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Speaker 2: ball for thirty five minutes, yes, now you've Now you've

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Speaker 2: put the onus on them. If you turn this into

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Speaker 2: like an eight possession football game, Yeah, where both teams

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Speaker 2: get eight possessions and you win two or three of

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Speaker 2: those possessions with sacks or turnovers, you're gonna win the game.

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Speaker 3: Boswell makes his kicks, Yeah, turn the ball over and

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Speaker 3: that type of thing. Yeah, and this time last year,

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Speaker 3: I'm almost certain the Steelers were last in time possession.

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Speaker 2: If they weren't last, they were thirty first.

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Speaker 3: It was brutal, and then as the season went on

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Speaker 3: they ended up like fifth or six as the overall.

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Speaker 2: And to your point, they did that against the Ravens

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Speaker 2: in the in the game before the bye. The Ravens

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Speaker 2: are the team that dominates time of possession. That didn't

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Speaker 2: happen in the game. In the game against the steel.

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Speaker 3: A slow run the ball, you know, be out there

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Speaker 3: for a long stretch.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but you got to you gotta gain yardage

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Speaker 2: on first and second down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, they're their drives just aren't enough plays.

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Speaker 3: They're not They're not running enough plays per drive at all.

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Speaker 3: And you know, eat some clock.

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Speaker 2: Eat some clock. Shorten the game and lets your team, lets.

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Speaker 3: Your and the Rams do play fast.

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Speaker 2: The Rams are going to play fast.

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Speaker 3: That's one thing I looked at today was, you know,

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Speaker 3: how often do they snap the ball? They're very and

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Speaker 3: they play a lot of tempo, you know, and that

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Speaker 3: that's their style, that's Stafford style, right, you know, and.

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Speaker 2: They're converting forty two percent of their third downs. They're

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Speaker 2: allowing thirty nine point two. You know, if you can

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Speaker 2: keep them on forty third down, I think you win

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Speaker 2: this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think there's a real good chance unless turnovers

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Speaker 3: or a problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you turn the ball over a bunch of times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying they should not take

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Speaker 3: shots or anything like that, but Kenny not turning the

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Speaker 3: ball over is step number one for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But you know they're allowing Basically, opponents have run

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Speaker 2: about the same number of plays against the RAMS that

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Speaker 2: they have run.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly it is a lot of plays run

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Speaker 3: in RAMS games.

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Speaker 2: Would I wouldn't do that. I'm gonna slow things down

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Speaker 2: into I'm not going to say go into the four

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Speaker 2: corners offense, but play it's your pace, don't speed up

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Speaker 2: and play done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, play smart. Don't get ahead of yourself right now.

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Speaker 2: If you get them in situations where you feel like, okay,

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Speaker 2: we got it, we got an advantage here, go ahead

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Speaker 2: and run you know.

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Speaker 3: How to Kenny showing that he can do that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well, but yeah, don't. I don't want to see a

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Speaker 2: ton of no huddle in this game, because that means

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Speaker 2: you probably.

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Speaker 3: Be always mean play fast, right, you know, you just

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Speaker 3: don't let them substitute, right still, let the clock take

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Speaker 3: down between.

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Speaker 2: Plays, catch them in their dime defense and you got, okay,

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Speaker 2: we can. We're gonna run the ball here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're gonna play a lot of dime and

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Speaker 3: you know, yeah, they're they're heavy dime team.

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Speaker 2: So anyways, that's going to do it for today's show.

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Speaker 2: So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

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Speaker 2: on site keeping us on the air. We also want

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Speaker 2: to thank Bob Labriola, the Dean of Doom, for stopping by,

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Speaker 2: and we want to thank you for listening to this

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Speaker 2: edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.