WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Healthy Allen Ready For Breakout Season

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<v Speaker 1>take it over. Here's Paul Calvc. I'm ready. I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wilflee.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't get any better than that. Unleash the far Well.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the radio that Kyler used on Saturday to call

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<v Speaker 1>on the plays Wolf to the other. QB's right. Cliff

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<v Speaker 1>Kingsbury talking today, saying with a smile out quote, I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted him know that, Hey, this stuff ain't easy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>every now and then quarterbacks will shake their heads when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm calling in the place, says Cliffs. So he's like

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<v Speaker 1>all right, go ahead, big dog. There you go, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's the radio that we're on this evening for

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<v Speaker 1>the next hour. Let's see here at show number five

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<v Speaker 1>seventy one all time in the History of the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert we are

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<v Speaker 1>santan Ford, Paul Calvc here or on wolf Ley there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's beautiful about it as well, Paulie, we

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<v Speaker 1>actually have some things to talk about that's pertained to

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<v Speaker 1>the game of football on the football field, though we not.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul I was about to say, let's see here ninety

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<v Speaker 1>plus players in camp and about ninety plus storylines in

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<v Speaker 1>the span of a week. I mean storylines. We have

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<v Speaker 1>headlines a little bit. We've got the return of guys

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't expect, like, oh, Max Williams to start off today,

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag mustache. Love seeing Max Williams out there, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>wolf PAULI, what was that? Honestly? First of all, before

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<v Speaker 1>you go off of Max Williams, what was that mustache

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<v Speaker 1>that he had gone right there? Paul, You, from time

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<v Speaker 1>to time have been known to grow a nasty looking mustache,

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<v Speaker 1>I might add, what was that all about? Well, first off,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the full Back Club. I'm not gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>you know anything negative about the full Back Club like

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<v Speaker 1>you do about the Mustache Club. You know, the likes

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<v Speaker 1>of a Drew stand in the PASSA Carson Palmer was

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<v Speaker 1>the worst, I said earlier, the leader right now, all

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<v Speaker 1>you know across the country the mustache power Poles, Matt Carpenter,

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<v Speaker 1>the Yankees. Google that up. The infielder, yes. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you had Max Williams say Wolf, I mean, there's always

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<v Speaker 1>got to be that guy who keeps it light during

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<v Speaker 1>the drudgery right in the of a training camp. And

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<v Speaker 1>that guy is Max Williams. What he says, what he's

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<v Speaker 1>wearing on his upper lemp. You know, it's so amazing

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<v Speaker 1>about it too. You're talking about one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous human beings on the face of the planet when

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<v Speaker 1>he's actually in between those white lines. Max will light

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<v Speaker 1>you up. Paul, I know you've never been let up. Polly.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you don't know what that really feels like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a very nice experience, let's put it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, that mustache is nefarious. Don't maybe break out

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<v Speaker 1>the high school game film from our game against Sanatory,

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<v Speaker 1>Ronnie Lott, so please don't do that, Paul. They activated

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<v Speaker 1>Max Williams off the pup. We see that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of stuff flying around today. So that

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<v Speaker 1>started the day in terms of personnel. To end the day,

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<v Speaker 1>they signed a wide receiver by the name of Marcel Eightman.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we also have some injury news mixed in there,

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<v Speaker 1>like Antoine Wesley looks like he's gonna miss at least

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<v Speaker 1>the next week because they try and evaluate his growing

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<v Speaker 1>in his hip. He's had an MRI. Zach Ertz left

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<v Speaker 1>the field today with a calf strain, so we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what's up with that. Speaking a tight ends, Tray McBride,

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<v Speaker 1>he missed his second straight practice. Doesn't sound like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal with a back. They want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure he's good to go for the preseason opener next

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<v Speaker 1>week at Cincinnati. Marco Wilson dealing with a groin. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to more Marco Wilson and what the head coach

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<v Speaker 1>had to say about him. So yeah, well, if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot going on. And then there's the former host

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<v Speaker 1>of this show, DJ Humphrey's putting the big in a

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<v Speaker 1>big red rage with a big dollars how about your

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<v Speaker 1>reaction to his contract extension. You know it, Polly hum

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<v Speaker 1>In the National Football League in the Year of Our

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<v Speaker 1>Lord twenty twenty two, you need three offensive positions. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got to address three, and you've got to have three

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<v Speaker 1>really really good ones if you want to have a

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<v Speaker 1>good offense. Number one, as we all know, Polly, it's

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<v Speaker 1>franchise quarterback, right, say, you would agree with that, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>even you, Polly, you would agree with that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you need a franchise quarterback if, in fact you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have a good offense. Well, I think the Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals have that, of course in Kyler Murray. You also

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<v Speaker 1>need a wide receiver one, Polly, you need a guy

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<v Speaker 1>in today's NFL where you're throwing the ball and they're

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<v Speaker 1>making the rules so easy to throw the ball and

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<v Speaker 1>easy to protect a quarterback and protecting the quarterback literally

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<v Speaker 1>when he's getting hit or sacked. Yeah, there's no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>about that. You need a wide receiver one out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the Arizona Cardinals have that in DeAndre

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<v Speaker 1>Hopkins when he's healthy and ready to go. Yeah, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill O'Brien, team MVP of the Cardinals three years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And Polly. You need an offensive tackle, you need a

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle to be precise. And that's what the Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals have now with DJ Humphreys. They locked him up.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, they added what three more years onto his contract.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, when you find a left tackle that is

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<v Speaker 1>better than average, let's put it that way, when you

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<v Speaker 1>find a left tackle that is in the top third

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<v Speaker 1>of the league, you go ahead and you sign him

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<v Speaker 1>to an extension. He started forty nine to the last

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<v Speaker 1>fifty games, so the Cardinals. In one game he missed COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a two time team happening. But think about dj

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<v Speaker 1>MP dog ball, Yeah, and think about dj mpre's always

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie twenty and fifteen when he's a first round

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<v Speaker 1>pick and by his own admission, was immature. Yes, he

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<v Speaker 1>was asked in front of the media if the two

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen version of DJ Humpreys would have believed you just

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<v Speaker 1>earned yet another contract extension. Definitely surreal. I think just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, thinking back over the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you had told me this in twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>that first, you know, I mean that first Rickoy minicap,

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<v Speaker 1>that this was going to be the case. Eight years later,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably would have laughed at you, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. But being on this side of him, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's definitely sweet man, being able to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>secure my future here and no, I'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>be here. I always wanted to play for one team,

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<v Speaker 1>So knowing and I'm able to be in that position,

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<v Speaker 1>they continue to keep that dream alive. It's huge for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So the reports say he set to during this season

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one million, that's up from fifteen million, but they

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<v Speaker 1>lowered his cap hit for this coming season to twelve

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<v Speaker 1>and a half millions. That creates almost another seven million

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<v Speaker 1>of cap space for this year. Yeah, so what does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean? Are they going to extend some of the

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<v Speaker 1>current guys like a Byron Murphy or a Jalen Thompson,

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<v Speaker 1>or might they go out on the open market looking

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<v Speaker 1>to bolster another position might be from the outside, yeah, Polly,

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<v Speaker 1>or might they even look for at Marcus Golden and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, maybe we're gonna do something

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<v Speaker 1>right there. I have no idea, Polly what they're gonna do,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is nice that they freed up some seven

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars right there. You know what, I love Polly

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<v Speaker 1>in regard to this offensive line as well, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran offensive line, yet it's not decrepit by any

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<v Speaker 1>any stretch of the imagination. This is a veteran offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet you can look at these guys. Think about it, Polly,

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<v Speaker 1>four the five of course coming back. Four the five

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<v Speaker 1>from last year coming back, and then three of the

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<v Speaker 1>five they've played together four years. When you think about it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Humphreys and Justin Pew and Calvin Beecham, now they've

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<v Speaker 1>played four years. I really really liked the continuity on

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<v Speaker 1>that offensive line and the new addition of Will Hernandez

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<v Speaker 1>alongside of Rodney Hudson. That really fills me with an

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<v Speaker 1>awful lot of good feelings, PAULI, because they needed to

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<v Speaker 1>shore up that interior old line. You said it earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>No QB no chance in the NFL. That's one A.

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<v Speaker 1>One B would be no offensive line, no chance, and

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<v Speaker 1>offense doesn't matter how many weapons you might have. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have a terrible offensive line, you're going nowhere. So

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<v Speaker 1>Cliff Kingsbury knows the importance of a left tackle like

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Humphreys. He brings a lot of juice, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of leadership to our team and offense, and he loves

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<v Speaker 1>to play the game, so you can fill that out

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<v Speaker 1>there with offense and really big fan of DJ. When

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<v Speaker 1>we got here, I think people were still trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out if he's gonna make it in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's really taken off and become a real integral

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<v Speaker 1>part of what we're trying to do here. And you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned it. He's a dog. I mean, as big as

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<v Speaker 1>he smiles and as good a time he has in

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<v Speaker 1>as great a sense of humor he has during the

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<v Speaker 1>week Monday through Saturday. On Sunday, he is a different

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<v Speaker 1>dude down on the field between the white lines. And

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<v Speaker 1>now he has company in that regard in the new

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<v Speaker 1>right guard, Will Hernandez. A fact, you at a moment

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<v Speaker 1>with Will Hernandez earlier today or last couple of days, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you sit down with Will Hernandez? Yes, as a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, paul I believe that was today, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there it was today, no doubt today. Is Pauli three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty six pounds. He told me what his

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<v Speaker 1>way was. I was like, are you three forty because

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<v Speaker 1>I like him at three forty five. I'm just joking, ball,

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<v Speaker 1>are just joking, but the three forty it sounded really

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<v Speaker 1>really good when you looked at him because of the

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<v Speaker 1>refrigerator like structure of Will Hernandez and the body that

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<v Speaker 1>is a square dude, Paul. You know, I talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this all the time, how square a dude is. Will

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<v Speaker 1>Hernandez is a square dude, man, a wide butt. What

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<v Speaker 1>was your old saying that this is back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day and this is old school football. But you got

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<v Speaker 1>the advice from your older brother who had already spent

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<v Speaker 1>five years with the Steelers as a rookie, what was

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<v Speaker 1>the advice, Wilf and I don't get off it. Just

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<v Speaker 1>this the basic piece of advice going into camp as

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie. Well, Polly, it was number one, shut your mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two he told me respect everybody. And then number three,

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<v Speaker 1>Polly said, pick a fight with the toughest guy on

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<v Speaker 1>the team, because Will Hernandez just had a skirmish with

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<v Speaker 1>JJ Way. I'm just saying, if you want to pick

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<v Speaker 1>somebody out on that field ninety nine and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make a statement to your new teammates, they got

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<v Speaker 1>into it. I mean they're rooting in a tune a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit right. It wasn't quite wamping in a stomp

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<v Speaker 1>and they cut it off. They were yeah, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what, Polly, that's gonna happen. You know what. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>football is an intense game. You're literally trying to drive

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<v Speaker 1>another dude into the ground. That's your intent, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to do. When you're you're doing it with malice,

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<v Speaker 1>dare I say, And if you're not, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing out on the field? And you know what, he's

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<v Speaker 1>also doing a solid for the starting left guard. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>justin Few asked about the arrival of Will Hernandez earlier today.

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<v Speaker 1>I love having Will here. Will will replace me in

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<v Speaker 1>New York and he was the scrapper there. It must

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<v Speaker 1>be like if you played left guard in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to fight, because I was. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to fight. Will's taken over that role. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the enforcer out there. Let my old ass, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>take a couple of plays off and having a beat

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<v Speaker 1>up d lineman. Um, it's been awesome. He's a great dude,

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<v Speaker 1>great personality, great in the locker room. I couldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>enough good things about Will. I'm real happy he's here.

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<v Speaker 1>I've kind of three scraps, so Will Hernandez against three

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<v Speaker 1>different guys at three different times. In fact, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come up with a new hashtag. You know they like

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<v Speaker 1>to say Detroit versus Everybody, It's Will versus Everybody. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my new hashtag. I didn't get it. I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>a T shirt going forget to prove it every day

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<v Speaker 1>t shirt. I'm going with Bill Will versus Everybody? And Polly,

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<v Speaker 1>did I tell you he was a brawler? I told

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<v Speaker 1>you exactly when he showed up. When when the Cardinals said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what we're signing Will Hernandez, I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they just signed a brawler. This is a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>is known for his run blocking. Of course he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to continue to work on his pass sets. I

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<v Speaker 1>think is really helping him. Talking to Will Hernandez today,

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about how much help he's really got

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<v Speaker 1>from this veteran offensive line bringing him along where he's

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<v Speaker 1>the baby on this offensive line. He at five years

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. Think about that, Paul, Will is the baby.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, he's learned so much from all these other guys.

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<v Speaker 1>They've helped him so much. And I man that resonates

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<v Speaker 1>with me because I remember being in that running back

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<v Speaker 1>room when you had guys like Otis Anderson and Stump Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about pros pros. I'm talking about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the best to ever do it. Man. They helped me

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<v Speaker 1>so much inside of that locker room. And Will Hernandez

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<v Speaker 1>here he is at five years in the league. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a veteran offensive line and I'm bullish on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And look for all the needs we talked about in

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<v Speaker 1>the offseason Wolf the last five months, corner and pass rush.

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<v Speaker 1>Right guard was a need that was a liability last

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<v Speaker 1>year Justin Murray went down and the Cardinals never had

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<v Speaker 1>a solid answer at right guard, and it showed up

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<v Speaker 1>at the worst times, including the playoff game. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in a vision with Aaron Donald, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>solidify that position, period and the Cardinals like to think

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<v Speaker 1>they've done just that with Will Hernandez. Hey Episode thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four The Day Pash Podcast featuring Cardinals running back the

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<v Speaker 1>pro bowler James Conner, available now wherever you get your

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts and be a Twitter at pashpod. All right, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of pass rush, Yeah, I mean you're asking yourself, where's

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<v Speaker 1>it going to come from minus Chandler Jones. Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be from the edge, doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be via the blitz. Are we all forgetting about a

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<v Speaker 1>difference maker? Who might be that guy? This year? He

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<v Speaker 1>is next on this edition to the Big Red Rage

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Satan Ford in Gilbert Snap to Lance. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna rush up the middle and he's brought down by

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Allen at the twenty two for a loss of

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<v Speaker 1>three on the play snapped the staffer. They get the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs straight dropped back as time pumps, doggets hit at

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<v Speaker 1>sacked by Allan back in the twenty nine yard line

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<v Speaker 1>and the Cardinal's force upon plants to throw from the

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<v Speaker 1>pocket now steps up, gets hit by Zach Allen and

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<v Speaker 1>sacked at the forty six yard line. Big number ninety

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<v Speaker 1>four has made a couple of plays here today. Back

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<v Speaker 1>to throw Dalton at the screen and it picked off

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<v Speaker 1>Allan on the firesides, got it at the thirty, at

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty, at the fifteen, it tackled by Dalton at

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<v Speaker 1>the eleven yard line, and the fall comes out and

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<v Speaker 1>it's scooped up by Zach Allen at the five and

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<v Speaker 1>indie ends up before the touchdown. Well, we're definitely putting

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<v Speaker 1>the big into big red rage right now. The aforementioned

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Allen joining us all brought you by santan Ford.

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<v Speaker 1>We are santan Ford, Paul KELBC, Ron Wolfley and the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals Big d Lineman and Wolf. I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>should go full disclosure right off the top, considering that

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<v Speaker 1>you tried to book Zack's dog, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Your first request for this segment was actually being Zack's dog.

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<v Speaker 1>But we can get through to the publicist, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after Cardinal's flight plan and the whole Instagram page and everything, Zac.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, the popularity of your dog these days

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<v Speaker 1>is remarkable, is it not. Yeah? No, it definitely has

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<v Speaker 1>popped off. I did not expect any of this, so no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's pretty funny to see it. What kind of

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<v Speaker 1>dog are we talking about? Sorry, Paul, because I did

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<v Speaker 1>not see what you're talking about. Sorry, z Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a burning Doodle. So he's half Burnie's Mountain

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<v Speaker 1>dog half doodle. So it's nice because he doesn't shed,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's awesome. Oh my goodness, is a big dog? No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's only like forty pounds Okay, yeah, he's not too

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<v Speaker 1>too big, but he acts big. He jumps around everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>He still thinks he's a lap dog. But what do

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<v Speaker 1>you attribute the popularity too though? I mean, seriously, come on, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's adorable. I think it's impossible not to

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<v Speaker 1>love him. So yeah, talk to us a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about training camp right now. How's your training camp going, Zach?

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<v Speaker 1>It's been great, No, it's awesome, I think, Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been really cool for me personally, just coming off

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<v Speaker 1>the surgery and you know how much better I feel

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<v Speaker 1>compared to you know how I felt last year. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it really cleared up a lot of things for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also working with coach Burke has been awesome

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<v Speaker 1>just learning his style and you know, using what he's

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<v Speaker 1>been teaching us. I think, you know, it's given me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of successful so far and helping me with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of productions. So you know, I definitely am

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<v Speaker 1>excited to you know, use it in the games. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>How much did the injury impact you last year? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>now you can tell us so how many games were

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<v Speaker 1>you dealing with that? So I really had it the

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<v Speaker 1>whole season, so it was kind of stem from the

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<v Speaker 1>high ankle spring that I had my second year in

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<v Speaker 1>the league, and then I just kind of rushed back

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<v Speaker 1>into it too fast because I wanted to get back,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So I really was supposed to be like

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<v Speaker 1>a six to eight week injury, but I came back

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<v Speaker 1>in three that second year, finished the season, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to, you know, really build off the

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<v Speaker 1>momentum because I started playing well towards the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, so just you know, full off season and

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<v Speaker 1>it just kind of you know, wear and tear. And

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<v Speaker 1>then finally when we got to, um, you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas game versus Indianapolis, it was kind of like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need to take a look at it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we realized how bad it was. But you know, luckily,

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<v Speaker 1>um you know, we got a lot of tape and

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot of to roll, so we're able

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<v Speaker 1>to make it work, you know, because we heard the

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<v Speaker 1>montage there. I mean, you made a lot of plays,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact you said, I think earlier in this

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<v Speaker 1>camp you felt flat footed a lot of last Yeah, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I really did, like it was it was. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>after playing a game I legitimately couldn't walk on Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so I would be you know, my girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>would have to help me down the stairs and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just it was kind of a mess, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just trying to get it ready, and towards

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the season, I wasn't even practicing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be kind of hopefully that Friday practice at

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<v Speaker 1>least get some reps in. But yeah, no, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's it's it's amazing, um and I just I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like an athlete again. You know. Last year was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the fact that I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of do what I did with it was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously gave me some confidence about, you know, playing this league.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I'm so excited about this year. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>knock on wood, stay healthy and just show what I

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<v Speaker 1>could do with you know, with all this progress. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I came into the league, I had a really

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<v Speaker 1>really good coach. I had good coaches around me, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet at the same time, the impact that some veterans

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<v Speaker 1>made on me, some veterans inside that running back room,

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<v Speaker 1>what they made on me was significant. I know J J. Watt,

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<v Speaker 1>you're really tight with J. J. Watt. Talk about his

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<v Speaker 1>impact on you. Yeah, he's helped a bunch obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from the football standpoint obviously, I mean he knows as

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<v Speaker 1>much about you know, football and being productive in this

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<v Speaker 1>league as anybody that's ever played. But a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the off the field stuff, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with my surgery. It was kind of funny he had

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<v Speaker 1>his surgery and then a few months later I had mine,

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<v Speaker 1>So he basically kind of walked me through everything he

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<v Speaker 1>did because I mean his recovery was pretty remarkable to

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<v Speaker 1>come back and only a couple of months from his

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder surgery. So I kind of picked his brain and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he helped me out a bunch. Um I

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<v Speaker 1>got my surgery and was in Wisconsin, so he was

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<v Speaker 1>giving me, you know, all of his best cheese curd recommendations.

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<v Speaker 1>But um no, I really definitely you know, he know,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows what he's doing it, um you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>and off the field, and you know he's it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>that he's not, you know, kind of being shy about

0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.440
<v Speaker 1>that knowledge. He really you know tries to teach us,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, I think that's why he's such a good leader.

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<v Speaker 1>D Lyman Zach Allen, our guest on the Big Red Rage.

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<v Speaker 1>So where were you when the scrap broke out between

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<v Speaker 1>JJ Watt and Bill Hernandez the other day. It was

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<v Speaker 1>funny because that was like the so JJ and I

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<v Speaker 1>were in together and that was our last play like

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<v Speaker 1>before you know, we were going to switch it out.

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<v Speaker 1>So I started walking. All of a sudden, you just

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<v Speaker 1>hear the you know, the horns going, So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck? So you obviously you're going to go help,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know the D line. We're a close group,

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<v Speaker 1>so everybody you know, starts running in. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>probably one of the softer fights. I'm not gonna lie,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean they just you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just a big push in match and you know, no

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<v Speaker 1>punches were thrown. So you haven't had a good scrap yet,

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<v Speaker 1>so I mean, obviously coaches don't want that, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's always good to have one or two. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you like hockey? You know baseball you kind of grab

0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:12.520
<v Speaker 1>someone in your ship, Yeah, you try to grab from behind,

0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:14.760
<v Speaker 1>just break it up. But I don't think anybody was

0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:18.600
<v Speaker 1>really serious about fighting. So so here you are. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're getting ready, of course to enter in two preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we've got another week here to go before

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<v Speaker 1>you're actually going to play a preseason game. But are

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<v Speaker 1>you a goal guy? Are you one of these guys

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<v Speaker 1>that say, you know what I'd like to do A

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<v Speaker 1>B and C this year? Do you set goals for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself personally? I mean, obviously I have expectations, but I'm

0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.080
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily like I need to hit this number, this, this, this,

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<v Speaker 1>because for me, it's a big like if I look

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<v Speaker 1>too far down the road, then I kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>lost in it and you're just overthinking things. So for me,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that I found the most successful is literally

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<v Speaker 1>taking it day by day. So you know, if we

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<v Speaker 1>have practice today, that's my focus. Is what am I

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<v Speaker 1>working on in practice today? What's my goal for? You know? What? Pass?

0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Rush movie? Do I want to work? What do I

0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.040
<v Speaker 1>want to work in the run game? What's this? And

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<v Speaker 1>then kind of go from there and then you kind

0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:08.919
<v Speaker 1>of just let it stack and build and hopefully you

0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.640
<v Speaker 1>just stack a punching so you go in whitecrol instead

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<v Speaker 1>of mat Yeah. No, once you think too big, I

0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:17.479
<v Speaker 1>mean you kind of you know, it's just too general.

0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, So I love that because this is

0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:21.600
<v Speaker 1>a big year for you. It's a contract. Ye, So

0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.400
<v Speaker 1>if you start thinking too much big picture, I could

0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.399
<v Speaker 1>mess you up, I would assume. Yeah. Yeah. And the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's kind of cool too is, you know, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, guys, there's a bunch of us that are

0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:33.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of in the same position, so we're able to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of calm me down and calm each other down

0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and bounce ideas off each other, you know, especially you know,

0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:43.879
<v Speaker 1>like my class, you know, draft class with JT. Murph.

0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:45.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're all really close. So it's nice to

0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:48.560
<v Speaker 1>talk to guys like that. So talk to me a

0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:50.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit about that defensive line room and some of

0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the guys in there and your expectations, because there's a

0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:56.119
<v Speaker 1>lot of people looking at it now. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>say this, I'm talking about experts quote unquote on the

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:03.320
<v Speaker 1>outside that are looking at the Arisulta Cardinals defensive line

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<v Speaker 1>and consider that to be a weakness, to which you say, yeah,

0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that's just wrong. I mean, I think, honestly, we the

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:12.600
<v Speaker 1>thing is just I think, you know, it's been unfortunate.

0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:15.240
<v Speaker 1>We were really young for the past couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, I think in this league, especially to

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<v Speaker 1>play you know inside, it's so much different than college,

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:23.240
<v Speaker 1>and like in college, if you're a wide receiver or

0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a corner, you're faster, you're fat. Like you know, speed translates,

0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the here, it's just the speed and

0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the side. It's just something that you just know what's

0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:35.879
<v Speaker 1>really seen before. So even the best offensive and defensive linement,

0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.800
<v Speaker 1>it usually takes a couple of years for them. And

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<v Speaker 1>like especially in my draft class, if you look at

0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:42.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the top D linement, a lot of

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:45.720
<v Speaker 1>them it took kind of late second year, third year

0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.560
<v Speaker 1>to kind of figure it out and put the pieces together,

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you know. So that's just the way football is. But

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:54.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think we got a lot of great

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 1>guys in the room, and I think we're a really

0:22:56.800 --> 0:23:01.320
<v Speaker 1>deep room. Obviously, Lecky, Richard, Mike, I think this offseason

0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:04.639
<v Speaker 1>they absolutely killed it. So it'll be you know, really interesting. Obviously,

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 1>have JJ being JJ, and you know, then there's a

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of other guys that are you know, in the

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 1>same spot. I think we just have a lot of

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>guys that are you know, really excited to play ball

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:16.399
<v Speaker 1>and play play fast and it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun. And it's not just the D line.

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<v Speaker 1>There was an analytics site. I think DVOA the other

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:24.560
<v Speaker 1>day that projected the Cardinals, who finished number six in

0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:27.760
<v Speaker 1>overall defense last year, and their analytics, their metrics, they

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:32.040
<v Speaker 1>projecting be twenty eighth this year. I'm like, Wow, what's

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:35.040
<v Speaker 1>going to dictate whether you finish top ten or bottom ten?

0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 1>You think as a defense, what's going to be most

0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:39.959
<v Speaker 1>important for this d You think, Yeah, I think if

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.480
<v Speaker 1>we just execute, you know, I feel like last year,

0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you know we will after kind of you know, doing

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:48.680
<v Speaker 1>this self scout this offseason. You know, when we were

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.919
<v Speaker 1>had eleven guys doing their jobs, I mean, no one

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:54.399
<v Speaker 1>could do anything on it. Where we got into trouble

0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:56.920
<v Speaker 1>is you have an m A here and mister Simon here,

0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:59.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, making mistakes here here here. That's kind of

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.440
<v Speaker 1>where it killed us. So this offseason, obviously, guys are

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.399
<v Speaker 1>really focused on knowing their job and performing at a

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:07.680
<v Speaker 1>high level. And for a lot of us, I mean

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>this is now year four in the defense, which is

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, really encouraging, and I think, you know it

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 1>will be as we've seen in camp so far, it's

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:18.400
<v Speaker 1>been a lot smoother and I think the way we're

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.880
<v Speaker 1>playing defense is it's just a lot faster and it's

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:24.239
<v Speaker 1>just a lot more physical, which is great. As you

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<v Speaker 1>well know, Zach, over the last couple of years, you

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>guys have gotten off to some pretty good starts over

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years and some really bad finishes

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of years. Why do you think

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that is, Zach? And can you do anything about it

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 1>as well? Yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, I'm a

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>young player. I mean this is technically year four, but

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I missed my entire first year, so I mean I've

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 1>been around some ball. I haven't been around, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as some other guys. I might not be

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>the best guy to answer that question, but I just

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 1>know that, you know, for us, talk is just you know,

0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>day by day doing our job. And I think, you know,

0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:07.199
<v Speaker 1>if this year we really embraced that, you know, I

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:08.919
<v Speaker 1>think we'll, you know, we'll do good. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>also last year, I think we had so much success,

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<v Speaker 1>like so quickly. It wasn't kind of it kind of

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say it came overnight, but you know,

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 1>you go from eight and eight to all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you start a season seven that's you know,

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really happen a lot. So that kind of gets

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>in your head now that we kind of have that

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:26.919
<v Speaker 1>wake up call. How you know, you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>on point throughout the entire season. They're not just you know,

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.439
<v Speaker 1>there's no easy games. I think that will be Uh,

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of you know obviously you know you

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 1>wish he did better last year, but I think that

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>will help us a lot this year. Boy, that really

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>resonates with me when I listened to Zach say that,

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 1>because honestly, that is so true right there. It's one

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 1>thing to talk about it, but actually having it happened

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>to you, boy, that really is a learning opportunity. Well,

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and some other guys I mentioned it's some other team leaders,

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Budda Baker and so forth. Maybe the attention to detail,

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:57.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe it waned a little bit of ten and two, etc.

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 1>So Yeah, considered a lesson learned. You you would hope,

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:03.679
<v Speaker 1>uh you you hear him before you see him, your

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:06.360
<v Speaker 1>new d line coach, Matt Burkey. He's really vocal. What's

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>upen like having that new voice around. It's great and

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:12.360
<v Speaker 1>honestly has been a seamless transition. Um. You know, he's

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.879
<v Speaker 1>really high energy and you know, just the style that

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 1>he's teaching, it's a lot of fun to play in.

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just you know, go fast and they'll be violent,

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and you know we'll correct all the mistakes after, you know,

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, obviously, you know, we all really

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 1>like Buck and you know, appreciate everything he's done. But

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like you go from one great D

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.360
<v Speaker 1>line coach to another great D line coach. So we

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 1>were really fortunate to have him, and um, you know,

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 1>it's been awesome to play for him. Are you particular

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>as to what side you'd like to play? Right side,

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>left side? That where exactly? Do you like to be

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:48.159
<v Speaker 1>across the front seven? Yeah, honestly, I mean just the

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.119
<v Speaker 1>way our defense is, you know, you kind of got

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.919
<v Speaker 1>to know everything and you play uh, you know across.

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 1>But I know, um now I probably you know, become

0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more comfortable playing on the right side,

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>just because JJ more comfortable on the left, and um,

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 1>you know it works out well that you know, we're

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>both in our most comfortable spots. You like being over

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 1>the guard or over the tackle, um or over the

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>center de yeah did it all last YEA, Yeah, No,

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it's it's kind of a mix whatever, you know, it

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>depends on the look that down obviously, you know, you

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>know the certain looks where the play is going to

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 1>be made, so you obviously try to cheat it a

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit. But yeah, and as we wrap it up

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<v Speaker 1>with Zach Allen, who's the guy you would least want

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<v Speaker 1>to fight on this roster or who's the guy you

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>would want on your side as your wingman if you

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>walked into a biker bar full of Hell's Angels, who's

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the dude you'd want with you on this team? I'd

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>take Lucky like he's a big boy's, you know, three

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 1>pounds of torso, So we'll take that. All right. That's good.

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 1>You got Lucky and you got your dog being so

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, life is good these days. Yes, there you go,

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Zach Allen. Everyone on the Big Red rage As Weekend,

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 1>seeing you all brought to you by Satan Forard. We

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>are Santan Pord snapped the Lawrence Hilt throw short set

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:10.400
<v Speaker 1>looks left, throws left and broken up incomplete, nearly intercepted

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>on the far sideline by Marco Wilson, who stepped in

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 1>front of Marvin Jones. What a great play by Marco Wilson.

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Right there, Michelle running left and then he's cut down

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>on the far side of the ten yard line by

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Marco Wilson. Oh my goodness, what a great tackle by

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 1>Marco Wilson. The corner dumps it off short left. It

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>has caught at the twenty five yard line. A huge

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 1>hit on the far side by Marco Wilson. He absolutely

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>levels the receiver. Marco Wilson comes up and I mean

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>delivers a blow. Oh pro Sprang Grasshopper, the fourth Brown

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>rookie out of Florida last year, ended up playing starter

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 1>snaps pretty much the entire season. We know he has

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 1>a talent in the measurables. You know he has a pedigree.

0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean his dad coaches dbs for a living. His

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>older brother has been an NFL dB as well. The

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>question is, okay, can he show that sort of consistency.

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Can he take the next step to really appease the

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>decision makers and make him a bona fide starter from

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe the next seven or eight years potentially the Cardinals

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>have a need? Can he fill that need? And guess what?

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>We got some news on the Marco Wilson front earlier

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>today that we'll get into here on the Big Red

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Range presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley.

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>We're just joined by Zach Allen. How about some impressions

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 1>real quick on Zach Allen? How about I mean, how

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>about by the way, and kudos do you wolf? He said,

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, the coaches don't like the fights, but in

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>his words quote, it's always good to have at least

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>one real fight. That's right, boy, I mean, honestly, once again,

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>you'd heard me talk about it all the time. It

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>really sets the tone in the tempo, of course for

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>a football team, and a lot of times it will

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>relieve some pent up pressure inside of that locker room.

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I know it doesn't seem like that would be the case.

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I know that you would think, my goodness, you're gonna

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>fight one of your teammates. You're gonna fight him? Are

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>you kidding me? You're gonna fight You know what happens

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the vast majority of the time after you fight him,

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>you totally hug it out after it's over, and you

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of laugh at each other, and then all of

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, everyone just the respect level returns to a

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>locker room. I just listen. I know that I talk

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>about it all the time, but yeah, that certainly can

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>happen inside the locker room, and I think Zach Allen

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of alluded to that. They said their new D

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>line coach, Matt Burke, his one messages go be fast,

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>be violent, We'll fix everything later. He wants a physical

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>D line and it was amazing to me. My last

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>takeaway was just how banged up he was last year

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>with that ankle that on Mondays he needed help from

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend to get down the stairs. He could barely walk,

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and somehow he was still playing on Sundays. Yeah. So

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>if he's fully healthy, because we know his rookie year

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>was wiped out by the neck injury. For the most part,

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>if you're looking for a guy who can really take

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>that next step, I know it's year four, but I

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>just get the sense Attack has so much more ceiling

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>to reach and productivity to bring to that defensive front. Yeah.

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>The other thing too, I liked about our conversation was

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he likes playing on the right side

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>of the defense and J. J. Watt, of course likes

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>playing on the left side. That's very very interesting, right

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 1>there two guys that are very similar. Right, So the

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>two cornerbacks that we went into camp thinking, all right,

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>these are the two guys, Byron Murphy Junior and Marco Wilson.

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>And what's been interesting, Wolf is we've since learned and

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.239
<v Speaker 1>we started the off season this direction, and then the

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>tragic passing to Jeff Gladden. You figured that, you know what,

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Byron Murphy was going to be an outside corner even

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>though they prefer him inside. Well, guess what, Cliff Kingsbury

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>has been pretty vocal, they would really prefer Byron Murphy

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Junior to be a slot corner, which just heightens the

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>importance of a Marco Wilson being one of those outside corners.

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 1>But earlier today, here's what Cliff Kingsbury had to say.

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>And the setup on this to some degree is that

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>some of the younger corners were wearing mits, as in

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>they let's just say, they have been holding and grabbing

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>and so they put somemits on him so they couldn't

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>do some of that, and that was sort of what

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the question revolved around. And then listen to where Cliff

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Kingsbury took it. I think that's a position that where

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>guys got to step up. Really like some of the veterans,

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>we have a different positions on defense. Murphy's really come

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>a long way, Marco. We want him to step up

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and be in every down starter, but we'll see. I

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>think the jury is still out and the rest of

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>as young guys, somebody's got to step up and help

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>us out. Paul. As soon as I heard that, man,

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I just want to jump in here. As soon as

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I heard Cliff Kingsbury say that, you know what, Marco,

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>we want to see him actually step Bob, you know

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 1>we want we want to see this right here. You

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I thought of immediately, Polly was Cliff Kingsbury

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and the development of Cliff Kingsbury as a head coach.

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>It was the PAULI, this is what a head coach

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>is going to do. He's going to let some veteran

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>guys from time to time know that, hey, listen, you

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>know what, your reps maybe getting caught. He's got to

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>do that. Now. I'm not saying he's doing it here

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>with Marco Wilson. What I am saying young guys, young

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>guys that they want to continue to develop, You're gonna say,

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what, Hey, he's got to stop up. He's

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>got to prove it to us. Basically, this is what

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>he's saying to Marco Wilson right now. I think it

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 1>is a tactic that a coach use, especially a head

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>coach uses to get young guys to develop, to challenge

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>young guys and make sure they don't get complacent. Paulie,

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>stop and think about it. Marco Wilson, through two thirds

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>of last season, I'll even go three quarters of last season,

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 1>he was as good as a rookie corner could possibly be.

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>And then he kind of tailed off at the end

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>of last year. And I don't think they want him

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>getting complacent at all. He was a starter and all

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden he tailed off at the end. I

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>don't think they want him to get complacent. I know

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>that that's a thin cornerback room as well, and maybe

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that's what it is. Maybe they're trying to ring a

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>little urgency to Marco Wilson because he can look around

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that cornerback room as well and see that he doesn't

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>have a packed room in terms of competition, because when

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>camp started, it was early in camp and Cliff Kingsbury's

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>feeding a lot of basic questions about, Okay, how where

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the competitions on this roster, and he said Marco Wilson

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>was quote in the mix to be a starter. He

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>was not giving him a starting job, even though he

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>did exactly that most of the last year as a rookie.

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 1>He said he has to earn that job. And then

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.839
<v Speaker 1>Vance Joseph was asked if Marco Wilson needed a big camp,

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 1>and Vance Joseph told him me, well, I don't really

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.800
<v Speaker 1>necessarily think he needs a big camp because you know,

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 1>he played so well last year, So it's almost like

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 1>a good cop bad cop going on between the head

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:46.240
<v Speaker 1>coach and the defensive coordinator. But then Cliff Kingsbury doubled

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 1>down again today after Marco Wilson missed with a groin injury. Look,

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I think there's some I think there's some general frustration

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>with the position itself, just in general. Last couple of days,

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 1>the head coach was irritated all the corners grabbing and

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.359
<v Speaker 1>holding hens. He saw the mits out there in three

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>different guys at least today, But then hit zoom out

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 1>as you said, the position depth isn't there. I mean,

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>God forbid, the Cardinals have a real injury to one

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>of their primary guys a corner. They could really be hurting,

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 1>so the time is now. Otherwise there are guys out

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>in that market that I imagine might be a kind

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:21.839
<v Speaker 1>time sign. Yeah, you know what, Polly too. Once again,

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I just don't gloss over this. This is a big

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>moment for Cliff Kingsbury to come out and say that

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 1>about a guy that was a starter for the Arizona

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals last year in a room that is thin this year.

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 1>For him to actually say that, to challenge Marco Wilson,

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>this is a Grove spurg from Cliff Kingsbury. As far

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 1>as I'm concerned, I can almost hear Bill Belichick. Bill

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Belichick used to do this same thing. He would let

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 1>he would let people know in the media, of course,

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, ask me about this position, or ask me

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 1>about you know, what kind of battle we've got going

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 1>on here in the you know, in side linebacker position

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it may be. He would set it up

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden he'd just give you

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>a very dry answer, and it was always about, you know,

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 1>he's got to play, he's got to step up and play.

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>He's got to prove it to us he can do that,

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And that's all he would say, Paul,

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>and then he would back it up. It is. This

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 1>is a growth opportunity right here for Cliff Kingsbury. And well,

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 1>if you spent ten years in the league, does a

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.320
<v Speaker 1>message from the head coach to the media get to

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the player in the locker room? Yes, yes it does,

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 1>Paul Okay, think think of two hosts of this show,

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 1>The Big Red Rage, Klais Campbell, he was going to

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowls. Remember Bruce Arians was low to give Kleis

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 1>a real compliment, Yes, and then DJ Humphreys and what

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:48.839
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Arians said, DJ Humprey's rookie year, Paul yep, which

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 1>to this day DJ does not appreciate. Correct. So, yes,

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 1>there have been many messages sent through the media, and

0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you would qualify today's comments about Marco Wilson in that

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>position group when he says the jury is still out

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and someone has to step up and help us out

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>quote quote absolutely so Hey, Cardinal season tickets available now.

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Go to easy Cardinals dot com slash tickets for more info.

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Easy Cardinals dot com slash tickets. All right, Isaiah Simmons,

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 1>big storyline, big position, We'll talk about that next on

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>The Big Red Rage presented by Satan four. In Gilbert,

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>they run Henry off the left side and he's tumped immediately,

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's Isaiah Simmons knifing into the backfield to take

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:36.399
<v Speaker 1>him down. I want to play by Simmons. You want

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to talk about playing Downhill. Isaiah Simmons coming from the backside,

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>the weak side, inside linebacker making a play. I'm king

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Henry Baby. Tan Hill takes the shotgun, snap backs up

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 1>as time steps up, throws over the middle to fleck

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>it into the air, and it is intercepted by Isaiah

0:37:56.960 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Simmons at the forty five yard line. Sayah Simmons with

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:04.840
<v Speaker 1>a heads up play. And one of the first questions

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.359
<v Speaker 1>after he was a first round pick in your mind

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Wolf was all right, how physical is he? We know

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>he's an athletic freak, a unicorn, but will he put

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 1>his nose in there and stick his face mask in

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 1>there into the fray? And the answer to that right

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>away he realized was what, yes, yes, he would. Ball

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 1>was the first thing I was looking for. And you

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 1>know what's interesting about that if you talk to Bill Davis,

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 1>that was the first thing that the inside linebacker coach

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>for the Cardinals was looking for as well. Interesting. Interesting,

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.319
<v Speaker 1>So okay, there you go. He answered that question. Now

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the question is where exactly is he going to play

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and what does that mean for the Cardinals defense? What

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 1>does that mean for the opposition? Because us media types

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 1>were there at camp the last week or so, like,

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:49.919
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, there's I say, Simmons on the edge.

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 1>There he is in the slot. There he is in

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the defense. There he is in the

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 1>back end of the defense plane, center field, safety. All right,

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>So Vance Joseph, the defensive coordinator, was asked just to

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 1>describe position exactly is he playing? Coach right now, he's

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:07.760
<v Speaker 1>a star you know, I was starbacker or safety, whatever

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 1>you want to call him. Um, he's playing well, you know,

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:12.879
<v Speaker 1>but but we'll see. That's what camps for to kind

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 1>of figure out how far we can go with him

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.800
<v Speaker 1>playing certain spots. A starbacker is a guy that plays

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker, a little bit of safety, a little bit

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 1>of dime. I mean, he's a star position and in

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 1>this scheme, it can be a lot of places. Your

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on that sounds like where needed, where he's going

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:32.399
<v Speaker 1>to be the most lethal and effective is where he's

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 1>going to be. Yeah, Paully, first of all, let me

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 1>just say this quickly right now, Um, I I no

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>longer have these dreams of him being the week side

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 1>inside backer. Okay, where he's just you're gonna put him

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 1>there and he's going to be Thomas Davis. They're gonna

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 1>move him around. This is something that they have already

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 1>come to a conclusion about. They're gonna move him around today,

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 1>just today and today's practice. Polly, you already said it.

0:39:57.480 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I saw him on the edge. I saw him in

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>the lot as a corner. I saw him lineup as

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in the slot as a corner. I saw him as

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:09.479
<v Speaker 1>a week side inside linebacker. And I saw him playing

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 1>safety in the middle of the field, man free. He was.

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:17.800
<v Speaker 1>He was the deep safety in the middle of the field,

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:21.240
<v Speaker 1>man underneath on a blitz. They had blitz six guys

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and he was the free safety in the middle of

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the field, man free. It is. It is hysterical to me.

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't care where they put him now. I just

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:37.240
<v Speaker 1>want Isaiah Simmons to make plays, plays that change games,

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>games that can be won because Isaiah Simmons is making plays.

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 1>That's what I want to see from this young guy. Yeah,

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 1>be a playmaker, be a difference maker. But you're right,

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 1>he's not exclusively an inside linebacker. And it doesn't sound

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 1>like he'll ever be so you know, I mean, we

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:55.760
<v Speaker 1>might want to fire up, let it go from frozen

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.919
<v Speaker 1>at this point. Ball okay, ball, And that's what I've done.

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I have let it oh, just so make place. They

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 1>asked him Isaiah Simmons about his star backer role. It

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>feels like what it was last year, not too much more,

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:13.359
<v Speaker 1>not too much less. I like the new name for it, though.

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's kind of fitting so um. I

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's a lot of similarities to Clemson. So

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 1>obviously that's how I got here, and that's what I

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 1>was comfortable with during all my college career. So being

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>able to do it at the highest level is I

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 1>guess a lot of courtesy to VJ, you know, for

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>allowing me to do that, and you know, also the

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>team for working with me, and you know, being able

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 1>to help me out. Guys like Buddha, guys like I mean, JJ,

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>everybody helping me out on all different levels, just to

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>be the best version of myself. The only thing better

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:47.840
<v Speaker 1>than starbacker would have been grudgebacker. Paul all Right, the grudgebacker.

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 1>This guy's got an edge. Have you noticed Paul all

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah's got an edge? To him. I mean he got

0:41:56.800 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 1>into it with DeAndre Hopkins, somebody he says is like

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 1>his best friend on the team, which was really intriguing

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to hear, because I mean Dap was hot. He fired

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the football at Isaiah, him square in the back between

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:13.919
<v Speaker 1>the numbers and the tune. Why was that, though, Paul?

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Why did he do that? Because Isaiah came over and

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>was john at him. He's got an edge, Paul. I

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 1>saw a little check down to Eno Benjamin and there

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 1>was Isaiah Simmons. He was playing inside linebacker. He dropped

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>into a zone cover. They checked it down in front

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:33.360
<v Speaker 1>of that zone to Eno, and he went whacked him, Paul,

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 1>and then throw him chucked him after you know I did.

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 1>He didn't have to do that. All he had to

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:41.479
<v Speaker 1>do was come up and tag him with both hands.

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>He didn't have to chuck him the way that he did.

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:47.280
<v Speaker 1>And yet Isaiah dead. He's got a little something something

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>coming down the side of his neck. Paul, I use

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 1>a hockey term for him. After this CAMPU would've witnessed

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:56.439
<v Speaker 1>so far, I'm calling him an instigator. You're from Buffalo Wolf,

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:59.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, the guy in hockey who skates around and

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>he just sees just starting stuff. You know, he's giving

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>guys elbows, and he's a hip check here and a

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 1>face wash there. That's Isaiah Simmons. And and just like

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 1>some of the coaches, you hear him before you see him,

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 1>because he's always chirping and yapping and starting something. And

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 1>it's just the way he plays. It's it's it's is

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:18.759
<v Speaker 1>adrenaline going. Yeah, Pauline, can I also say this too?

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I was filled with hope, hope because I really today

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 1>was a day where I saw Isaiah Simmons and Zavan

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Collins playing inside linebacker together. It didn't matter what the

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 1>down and distance was, Paully. They did it in run

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 1>down situation first and ten second and one to six.

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>They did it in third and obvious pass situations. They

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>took more reps together today as the inside linebacker. Now

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>they moved Isaiah all over, don't get me wrong, but

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>they took more reps today together as inside linebackers in

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:56.919
<v Speaker 1>certain down and distances and personnel groupings. It didn't matter.

0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 1>They took more reps than I have seen them take

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 1>in any other practice as the inside linebackers. By the way,

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 1>did we not see Zaven actually fill the hole really

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and react in a couple of drills. Correct, Yes, he did,

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 1>especially the inside drow where his eyes were on the

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 1>inside man. When he sees it and knows what to do,

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>he's a force. I was encouraged watching Zavin. Yeah, I

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 1>mean just like, look, remember what Jordan Hicks told us

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<v Speaker 1>last year. They're now departed middle linebacker and team captain,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said he would sit in the meeting rooms

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<v Speaker 1>look at Isaiah Simmons and look at Zavian Collins. Callan,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a couple of legit freaks here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are huge, they're fast. So if you can

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<v Speaker 1>get Zaven Collins up to speed, now they got a

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<v Speaker 1>play like in Paulie all right, special thanks as always

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