1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead, 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: he got jacked. This is the Big Red Rain presented 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: by satan Ford in Gilbert. Harry's Gonna score touchdown. Slam 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought to 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Satanford? State Farm? 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm, 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts Visit acy Cardinals dot Com, 9 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: Slash Podcasts, The red S, Rising ud, Temperaturizing Vision, flurring rage, 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: take it over. Here's Paul Calvc. I'm ready. I'm one 11 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wilflee. 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't get any better than that. Unleash the far Well. 13 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: There's the radio that Kyler used on Saturday to call 14 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: on the plays Wolf to the other. QB's right. Cliff 15 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: Kingsbury talking today, saying with a smile out quote, I 16 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: just wanted him know that, Hey, this stuff ain't easy. Yeah, 17 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: every now and then quarterbacks will shake their heads when 18 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm calling in the place, says Cliffs. So he's like 19 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: all right, go ahead, big dog. There you go, and 20 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: then there's the radio that we're on this evening for 21 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: the next hour. Let's see here at show number five 22 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: seventy one all time in the History of the Big 23 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert we are 24 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: santan Ford, Paul Calvc here or on wolf Ley there. 25 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: You know what's beautiful about it as well, Paulie, we 26 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: actually have some things to talk about that's pertained to 27 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: the game of football on the football field, though we not. 28 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: Paul I was about to say, let's see here ninety 29 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: plus players in camp and about ninety plus storylines in 30 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: the span of a week. I mean storylines. We have 31 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: headlines a little bit. We've got the return of guys 32 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: we didn't expect, like, oh, Max Williams to start off today, 33 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: hashtag mustache. Love seeing Max Williams out there, I mean, 34 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: wolf PAULI, what was that? Honestly? First of all, before 35 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: you go off of Max Williams, what was that mustache 36 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: that he had gone right there? Paul, You, from time 37 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: to time have been known to grow a nasty looking mustache, 38 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: I might add, what was that all about? Well, first off, 39 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: you have the full Back Club. I'm not gonna say 40 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: you know anything negative about the full Back Club like 41 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: you do about the Mustache Club. You know, the likes 42 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: of a Drew stand in the PASSA Carson Palmer was 43 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: the worst, I said earlier, the leader right now, all 44 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: you know across the country the mustache power Poles, Matt Carpenter, 45 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: the Yankees. Google that up. The infielder, yes. And then 46 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: you had Max Williams say Wolf, I mean, there's always 47 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: got to be that guy who keeps it light during 48 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: the drudgery right in the of a training camp. And 49 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: that guy is Max Williams. What he says, what he's 50 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: wearing on his upper lemp. You know, it's so amazing 51 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: about it too. You're talking about one of the most 52 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: dangerous human beings on the face of the planet when 53 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: he's actually in between those white lines. Max will light 54 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: you up. Paul, I know you've never been let up. Polly. 55 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: I know that you don't know what that really feels like. 56 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: It's not a very nice experience, let's put it that way. 57 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: And honestly, that mustache is nefarious. Don't maybe break out 58 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: the high school game film from our game against Sanatory, 59 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: Ronnie Lott, so please don't do that, Paul. They activated 60 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: Max Williams off the pup. We see that. I mean, 61 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff flying around today. So that 62 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: started the day in terms of personnel. To end the day, 63 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: they signed a wide receiver by the name of Marcel Eightman. 64 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: Because we also have some injury news mixed in there, 65 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: like Antoine Wesley looks like he's gonna miss at least 66 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: the next week because they try and evaluate his growing 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: in his hip. He's had an MRI. Zach Ertz left 68 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: the field today with a calf strain, so we'll see 69 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: what's up with that. Speaking a tight ends, Tray McBride, 70 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: he missed his second straight practice. Doesn't sound like it's 71 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: a big deal with a back. They want to make 72 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: sure he's good to go for the preseason opener next 73 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: week at Cincinnati. Marco Wilson dealing with a groin. We'll 74 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: get to more Marco Wilson and what the head coach 75 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: had to say about him. So yeah, well, if there's 76 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: a lot going on. And then there's the former host 77 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: of this show, DJ Humphrey's putting the big in a 78 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: big red rage with a big dollars how about your 79 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: reaction to his contract extension. You know it, Polly hum 80 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: In the National Football League in the Year of Our 81 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: Lord twenty twenty two, you need three offensive positions. You've 82 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: got to address three, and you've got to have three 83 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: really really good ones if you want to have a 84 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: good offense. Number one, as we all know, Polly, it's 85 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, right, say, you would agree with that, of course, 86 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: even you, Polly, you would agree with that. You know, 87 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: you need a franchise quarterback if, in fact you want 88 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: to have a good offense. Well, I think the Arizona 89 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals have that, of course in Kyler Murray. You also 90 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: need a wide receiver one, Polly, you need a guy 91 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: in today's NFL where you're throwing the ball and they're 92 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: making the rules so easy to throw the ball and 93 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: easy to protect a quarterback and protecting the quarterback literally 94 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: when he's getting hit or sacked. Yeah, there's no doubt 95 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: about that. You need a wide receiver one out there, 96 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: and I think the Arizona Cardinals have that in DeAndre 97 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: Hopkins when he's healthy and ready to go. Yeah, thank you, 98 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, team MVP of the Cardinals three years ago. 99 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: And Polly. You need an offensive tackle, you need a 100 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: left tackle to be precise. And that's what the Arizona 101 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals have now with DJ Humphreys. They locked him up. 102 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: Of course, they added what three more years onto his contract. 103 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: Right now, when you find a left tackle that is 104 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: better than average, let's put it that way, when you 105 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: find a left tackle that is in the top third 106 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: of the league, you go ahead and you sign him 107 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: to an extension. He started forty nine to the last 108 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: fifty games, so the Cardinals. In one game he missed COVID. 109 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: He's a two time team happening. But think about dj 110 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: MP dog ball, Yeah, and think about dj mpre's always 111 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: a rookie twenty and fifteen when he's a first round 112 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: pick and by his own admission, was immature. Yes, he 113 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: was asked in front of the media if the two 114 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: fifteen version of DJ Humpreys would have believed you just 115 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: earned yet another contract extension. Definitely surreal. I think just 116 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, thinking back over the whole thing, 117 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, if you had told me this in twenty fifteen, 118 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: that first, you know, I mean that first Rickoy minicap, 119 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: that this was going to be the case. Eight years later, 120 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: I probably would have laughed at you, you know what 121 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean. But being on this side of him, man, 122 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: it's it's definitely sweet man, being able to you know, 123 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: secure my future here and no, I'll be able to 124 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: be here. I always wanted to play for one team, 125 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: So knowing and I'm able to be in that position, 126 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: they continue to keep that dream alive. It's huge for me. 127 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: So the reports say he set to during this season 128 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: twenty one million, that's up from fifteen million, but they 129 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: lowered his cap hit for this coming season to twelve 130 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: and a half millions. That creates almost another seven million 131 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: of cap space for this year. Yeah, so what does 132 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: that mean? Are they going to extend some of the 133 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: current guys like a Byron Murphy or a Jalen Thompson, 134 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 1: or might they go out on the open market looking 135 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: to bolster another position might be from the outside, yeah, Polly, 136 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: or might they even look for at Marcus Golden and say, hey, 137 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, maybe we're gonna do something 138 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: right there. I have no idea, Polly what they're gonna do, 139 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: but it is nice that they freed up some seven 140 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: million dollars right there. You know what, I love Polly 141 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: in regard to this offensive line as well, this is 142 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: a veteran offensive line, yet it's not decrepit by any 143 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: any stretch of the imagination. This is a veteran offensive line. 144 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 1: Yet you can look at these guys. Think about it, Polly, 145 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: four the five of course coming back. Four the five 146 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: from last year coming back, and then three of the 147 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: five they've played together four years. When you think about it, right, 148 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: DJ Humphreys and Justin Pew and Calvin Beecham, now they've 149 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: played four years. I really really liked the continuity on 150 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: that offensive line and the new addition of Will Hernandez 151 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: alongside of Rodney Hudson. That really fills me with an 152 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: awful lot of good feelings, PAULI, because they needed to 153 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: shore up that interior old line. You said it earlier. 154 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: No QB no chance in the NFL. That's one A. 155 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: One B would be no offensive line, no chance, and 156 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: offense doesn't matter how many weapons you might have. If 157 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: you have a terrible offensive line, you're going nowhere. So 158 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury knows the importance of a left tackle like 159 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: DJ Humphreys. He brings a lot of juice, a lot 160 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: of leadership to our team and offense, and he loves 161 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: to play the game, so you can fill that out 162 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: there with offense and really big fan of DJ. When 163 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: we got here, I think people were still trying to 164 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: figure out if he's gonna make it in this league. 165 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: And he's really taken off and become a real integral 166 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: part of what we're trying to do here. And you 167 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: mentioned it. He's a dog. I mean, as big as 168 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: he smiles and as good a time he has in 169 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: as great a sense of humor he has during the 170 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: week Monday through Saturday. On Sunday, he is a different 171 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: dude down on the field between the white lines. And 172 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: now he has company in that regard in the new 173 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: right guard, Will Hernandez. A fact, you at a moment 174 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: with Will Hernandez earlier today or last couple of days, Right, 175 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: didn't you sit down with Will Hernandez? Yes, as a 176 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: matter of fact, paul I believe that was today, Yes, 177 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: there it was today, no doubt today. Is Pauli three 178 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six pounds. He told me what his 179 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: way was. I was like, are you three forty because 180 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: I like him at three forty five. I'm just joking, ball, 181 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: are just joking, but the three forty it sounded really 182 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: really good when you looked at him because of the 183 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: refrigerator like structure of Will Hernandez and the body that 184 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: is a square dude, Paul. You know, I talk about 185 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: this all the time, how square a dude is. Will 186 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: Hernandez is a square dude, man, a wide butt. What 187 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: was your old saying that this is back in the 188 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: day and this is old school football. But you got 189 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: the advice from your older brother who had already spent 190 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: five years with the Steelers as a rookie, what was 191 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: the advice, Wilf and I don't get off it. Just 192 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: this the basic piece of advice going into camp as 193 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: a rookie. Well, Polly, it was number one, shut your mouth. 194 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: Number two he told me respect everybody. And then number three, 195 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: Polly said, pick a fight with the toughest guy on 196 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: the team, because Will Hernandez just had a skirmish with 197 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: JJ Way. I'm just saying, if you want to pick 198 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: somebody out on that field ninety nine and you want 199 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: to make a statement to your new teammates, they got 200 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: into it. I mean they're rooting in a tune a 201 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: little bit right. It wasn't quite wamping in a stomp 202 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: and they cut it off. They were yeah, you know, yeah, 203 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: but you know what, Polly, that's gonna happen. You know what. Honestly, 204 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: football is an intense game. You're literally trying to drive 205 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: another dude into the ground. That's your intent, that's what 206 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: you're trying to do. When you're you're doing it with malice, 207 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: dare I say, And if you're not, what are you 208 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: doing out on the field? And you know what, he's 209 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: also doing a solid for the starting left guard. Here's 210 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: justin Few asked about the arrival of Will Hernandez earlier today. 211 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: I love having Will here. Will will replace me in 212 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: New York and he was the scrapper there. It must 213 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: be like if you played left guard in New York, 214 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: you just have to fight, because I was. Now I 215 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: don't have to fight. Will's taken over that role. Man. 216 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: He's the enforcer out there. Let my old ass, you know, 217 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: take a couple of plays off and having a beat 218 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: up d lineman. Um, it's been awesome. He's a great dude, 219 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: great personality, great in the locker room. I couldn't say 220 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: enough good things about Will. I'm real happy he's here. 221 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: I've kind of three scraps, so Will Hernandez against three 222 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: different guys at three different times. In fact, I'm gonna 223 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: come up with a new hashtag. You know they like 224 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: to say Detroit versus Everybody, It's Will versus Everybody. That's 225 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: my new hashtag. I didn't get it. I'm gonna get 226 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: a T shirt going forget to prove it every day 227 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: t shirt. I'm going with Bill Will versus Everybody? And Polly, 228 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: did I tell you he was a brawler? I told 229 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: you exactly when he showed up. When when the Cardinals said, 230 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: you know what we're signing Will Hernandez, I said, you know, 231 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: they just signed a brawler. This is a guy that 232 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: is known for his run blocking. Of course he's gonna 233 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: have to continue to work on his pass sets. I 234 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: think is really helping him. Talking to Will Hernandez today, 235 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: he was talking about how much help he's really got 236 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: from this veteran offensive line bringing him along where he's 237 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: the baby on this offensive line. He at five years 238 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: in the league. Think about that, Paul, Will is the baby. 239 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: He said, he's learned so much from all these other guys. 240 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: They've helped him so much. And I man that resonates 241 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: with me because I remember being in that running back 242 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: room when you had guys like Otis Anderson and Stump Mitchell. 243 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm talking about pros pros. I'm talking about some of 244 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: the best to ever do it. Man. They helped me 245 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: so much inside of that locker room. And Will Hernandez 246 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: here he is at five years in the league. Yeah, 247 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: this is a veteran offensive line and I'm bullish on it. 248 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: And look for all the needs we talked about in 249 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: the offseason Wolf the last five months, corner and pass rush. 250 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: Right guard was a need that was a liability last 251 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: year Justin Murray went down and the Cardinals never had 252 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: a solid answer at right guard, and it showed up 253 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: at the worst times, including the playoff game. And so 254 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: when you're in a vision with Aaron Donald, you gotta 255 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: solidify that position, period and the Cardinals like to think 256 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: they've done just that with Will Hernandez. Hey Episode thirty 257 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: four The Day Pash Podcast featuring Cardinals running back the 258 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: pro bowler James Conner, available now wherever you get your 259 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: podcasts and be a Twitter at pashpod. All right, speaking 260 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: of pass rush, Yeah, I mean you're asking yourself, where's 261 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: it going to come from minus Chandler Jones. Well, it 262 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be from the edge, doesn't have to 263 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: be via the blitz. Are we all forgetting about a 264 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: difference maker? Who might be that guy? This year? He 265 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: is next on this edition to the Big Red Rage 266 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: presented by Satan Ford in Gilbert Snap to Lance. He's 267 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: gonna rush up the middle and he's brought down by 268 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: Zach Allen at the twenty two for a loss of 269 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: three on the play snapped the staffer. They get the 270 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: playoffs straight dropped back as time pumps, doggets hit at 271 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: sacked by Allan back in the twenty nine yard line 272 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: and the Cardinal's force upon plants to throw from the 273 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: pocket now steps up, gets hit by Zach Allen and 274 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: sacked at the forty six yard line. Big number ninety 275 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: four has made a couple of plays here today. Back 276 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: to throw Dalton at the screen and it picked off 277 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: Allan on the firesides, got it at the thirty, at 278 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: the twenty, at the fifteen, it tackled by Dalton at 279 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: the eleven yard line, and the fall comes out and 280 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: it's scooped up by Zach Allen at the five and 281 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: indie ends up before the touchdown. Well, we're definitely putting 282 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: the big into big red rage right now. The aforementioned 283 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: Zach Allen joining us all brought you by santan Ford. 284 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: We are santan Ford, Paul KELBC, Ron Wolfley and the 285 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals Big d Lineman and Wolf. I feel like we 286 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: should go full disclosure right off the top, considering that 287 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: you tried to book Zack's dog, what are you talking about? 288 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: Your first request for this segment was actually being Zack's dog. 289 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: But we can get through to the publicist, you know, 290 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: after Cardinal's flight plan and the whole Instagram page and everything, Zac. 291 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: So I mean, the popularity of your dog these days 292 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: is remarkable, is it not. Yeah? No, it definitely has 293 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: popped off. I did not expect any of this, so no, 294 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty funny to see it. What kind of 295 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: dog are we talking about? Sorry, Paul, because I did 296 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: not see what you're talking about. Sorry, z Yeah, No, 297 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: I have a burning Doodle. So he's half Burnie's Mountain 298 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: dog half doodle. So it's nice because he doesn't shed, 299 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: but he's awesome. Oh my goodness, is a big dog? No, 300 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: he's only like forty pounds Okay, yeah, he's not too 301 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: too big, but he acts big. He jumps around everywhere. 302 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: He still thinks he's a lap dog. But what do 303 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: you attribute the popularity too though? I mean, seriously, come on, no, 304 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: I mean he's adorable. I think it's impossible not to 305 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: love him. So yeah, talk to us a little bit 306 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: about training camp right now. How's your training camp going, Zach? 307 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: It's been great, No, it's awesome, I think, Um, you know, 308 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: it's been really cool for me personally, just coming off 309 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: the surgery and you know how much better I feel 310 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: compared to you know how I felt last year. You know, 311 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: it really cleared up a lot of things for me. 312 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: And then also working with coach Burke has been awesome 313 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: just learning his style and you know, using what he's 314 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: been teaching us. I think, you know, it's given me 315 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: a lot of successful so far and helping me with 316 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: a lot of productions. So you know, I definitely am 317 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: excited to you know, use it in the games. Now. 318 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: How much did the injury impact you last year? I mean, 319 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: now you can tell us so how many games were 320 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: you dealing with that? So I really had it the 321 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: whole season, so it was kind of stem from the 322 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: high ankle spring that I had my second year in 323 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: the league, and then I just kind of rushed back 324 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: into it too fast because I wanted to get back, 325 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, So I really was supposed to be like 326 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: a six to eight week injury, but I came back 327 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: in three that second year, finished the season, and then 328 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: I just wanted to, you know, really build off the 329 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: momentum because I started playing well towards the end of 330 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: the year, so just you know, full off season and 331 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: it just kind of you know, wear and tear. And 332 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: then finally when we got to, um, you know, that 333 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: Christmas game versus Indianapolis, it was kind of like, okay, 334 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: I think we need to take a look at it, 335 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: and we realized how bad it was. But you know, luckily, 336 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: um you know, we got a lot of tape and 337 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: we got a lot of to roll, so we're able 338 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: to make it work, you know, because we heard the 339 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: montage there. I mean, you made a lot of plays, 340 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: despite the fact you said, I think earlier in this 341 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: camp you felt flat footed a lot of last Yeah, yeah, no, 342 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: I really did, like it was it was. I mean, 343 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: after playing a game I legitimately couldn't walk on Monday, 344 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: you know, so I would be you know, my girlfriend 345 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: would have to help me down the stairs and then 346 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: you know, just it was kind of a mess, but 347 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, just trying to get it ready, and towards 348 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: the end of the season, I wasn't even practicing, you know, 349 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: it would be kind of hopefully that Friday practice at 350 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: least get some reps in. But yeah, no, it was. 351 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: Now it's it's it's amazing, um and I just I 352 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: feel like an athlete again. You know. Last year was 353 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: kind of like the fact that I was able to 354 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: kind of do what I did with it was you know, 355 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: obviously gave me some confidence about, you know, playing this league. 356 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm so excited about this year. You know, 357 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: knock on wood, stay healthy and just show what I 358 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: could do with you know, with all this progress. You know, 359 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: when I came into the league, I had a really 360 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: really good coach. I had good coaches around me, and 361 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: yet at the same time, the impact that some veterans 362 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: made on me, some veterans inside that running back room, 363 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: what they made on me was significant. I know J J. Watt, 364 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: you're really tight with J. J. Watt. Talk about his 365 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: impact on you. Yeah, he's helped a bunch obviously, you know, 366 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: from the football standpoint obviously, I mean he knows as 367 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: much about you know, football and being productive in this 368 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: league as anybody that's ever played. But a lot of 369 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: you know, the off the field stuff, like you know, 370 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: with my surgery. It was kind of funny he had 371 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: his surgery and then a few months later I had mine, 372 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: So he basically kind of walked me through everything he 373 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: did because I mean his recovery was pretty remarkable to 374 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: come back and only a couple of months from his 375 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 1: shoulder surgery. So I kind of picked his brain and 376 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, he helped me out a bunch. Um I 377 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: got my surgery and was in Wisconsin, so he was 378 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: giving me, you know, all of his best cheese curd recommendations. 379 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: But um no, I really definitely you know, he know, 380 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing it, um you know, on 381 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: and off the field, and you know he's it's nice 382 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: that he's not, you know, kind of being shy about 383 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: that knowledge. He really you know tries to teach us, 384 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: and um, I think that's why he's such a good leader. 385 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: D Lyman Zach Allen, our guest on the Big Red Rage. 386 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: So where were you when the scrap broke out between 387 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: JJ Watt and Bill Hernandez the other day. It was 388 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: funny because that was like the so JJ and I 389 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: were in together and that was our last play like 390 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: before you know, we were going to switch it out. 391 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: So I started walking. All of a sudden, you just 392 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: hear the you know, the horns going, So I was like, 393 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: what the heck? So you obviously you're going to go help, 394 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: and you know the D line. We're a close group, 395 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: so everybody you know, starts running in. But it was 396 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: probably one of the softer fights. I'm not gonna lie, 397 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: you know. I mean they just you know, it was 398 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: just a big push in match and you know, no 399 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: punches were thrown. So you haven't had a good scrap yet, 400 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: so I mean, obviously coaches don't want that, but you 401 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: know it's always good to have one or two. Did 402 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: you like hockey? You know baseball you kind of grab 403 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: someone in your ship, Yeah, you try to grab from behind, 404 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: just break it up. But I don't think anybody was 405 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: really serious about fighting. So so here you are. Now 406 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: you're you're getting ready, of course to enter in two preseason. 407 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: I know we've got another week here to go before 408 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: you're actually going to play a preseason game. But are 409 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: you a goal guy? Are you one of these guys 410 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: that say, you know what I'd like to do A 411 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: B and C this year? Do you set goals for 412 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: yourself personally? I mean, obviously I have expectations, but I'm 413 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: not necessarily like I need to hit this number, this, this, this, 414 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: because for me, it's a big like if I look 415 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: too far down the road, then I kind of get 416 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: lost in it and you're just overthinking things. So for me, 417 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: the thing that I found the most successful is literally 418 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: taking it day by day. So you know, if we 419 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: have practice today, that's my focus. Is what am I 420 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: working on in practice today? What's my goal for? You know? What? Pass? 421 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: Rush movie? Do I want to work? What do I 422 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: want to work in the run game? What's this? And 423 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: then kind of go from there and then you kind 424 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: of just let it stack and build and hopefully you 425 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: just stack a punching so you go in whitecrol instead 426 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: of mat Yeah. No, once you think too big, I 427 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: mean you kind of you know, it's just too general. 428 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: I feel like, So I love that because this is 429 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: a big year for you. It's a contract. Ye, So 430 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: if you start thinking too much big picture, I could 431 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: mess you up, I would assume. Yeah. Yeah. And the 432 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: thing that's kind of cool too is, you know, obviously, 433 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: you know, guys, there's a bunch of us that are 434 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: kind of in the same position, so we're able to 435 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: kind of calm me down and calm each other down 436 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: and bounce ideas off each other, you know, especially you know, 437 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: like my class, you know, draft class with JT. Murph. 438 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: You know, we're all really close. So it's nice to 439 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: talk to guys like that. So talk to me a 440 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: little bit about that defensive line room and some of 441 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: the guys in there and your expectations, because there's a 442 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: lot of people looking at it now. And when I 443 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: say this, I'm talking about experts quote unquote on the 444 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: outside that are looking at the Arisulta Cardinals defensive line 445 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: and consider that to be a weakness, to which you say, yeah, 446 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: that's just wrong. I mean, I think, honestly, we the 447 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: thing is just I think, you know, it's been unfortunate. 448 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: We were really young for the past couple of years. 449 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: I would say, I think in this league, especially to 450 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: play you know inside, it's so much different than college, 451 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: and like in college, if you're a wide receiver or 452 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: a corner, you're faster, you're fat. Like you know, speed translates, 453 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 1: you know, at the here, it's just the speed and 454 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: the side. It's just something that you just know what's 455 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: really seen before. So even the best offensive and defensive linement, 456 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: it usually takes a couple of years for them. And 457 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: like especially in my draft class, if you look at 458 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: a lot of the top D linement, a lot of 459 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: them it took kind of late second year, third year 460 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: to kind of figure it out and put the pieces together, 461 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: you know. So that's just the way football is. But 462 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, I think we got a lot of great 463 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: guys in the room, and I think we're a really 464 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: deep room. Obviously, Lecky, Richard, Mike, I think this offseason 465 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: they absolutely killed it. So it'll be you know, really interesting. Obviously, 466 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: have JJ being JJ, and you know, then there's a 467 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: lot of other guys that are you know, in the 468 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: same spot. I think we just have a lot of 469 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: guys that are you know, really excited to play ball 470 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: and play play fast and it's going to be a 471 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: lot of fun. And it's not just the D line. 472 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: There was an analytics site. I think DVOA the other 473 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: day that projected the Cardinals, who finished number six in 474 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: overall defense last year, and their analytics, their metrics, they 475 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: projecting be twenty eighth this year. I'm like, Wow, what's 476 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: going to dictate whether you finish top ten or bottom ten? 477 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: You think as a defense, what's going to be most 478 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 1: important for this d You think, Yeah, I think if 479 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: we just execute, you know, I feel like last year, 480 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: you know we will after kind of you know, doing 481 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: this self scout this offseason. You know, when we were 482 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: had eleven guys doing their jobs, I mean, no one 483 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: could do anything on it. Where we got into trouble 484 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: is you have an m A here and mister Simon here, 485 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: you know, making mistakes here here here. That's kind of 486 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: where it killed us. So this offseason, obviously, guys are 487 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: really focused on knowing their job and performing at a 488 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: high level. And for a lot of us, I mean 489 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: this is now year four in the defense, which is 490 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: you know, really encouraging, and I think, you know it 491 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: will be as we've seen in camp so far, it's 492 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: been a lot smoother and I think the way we're 493 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: playing defense is it's just a lot faster and it's 494 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 1: just a lot more physical, which is great. As you 495 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: well know, Zach, over the last couple of years, you 496 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: guys have gotten off to some pretty good starts over 497 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: the last couple of years and some really bad finishes 498 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. Why do you think 499 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: that is, Zach? And can you do anything about it 500 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: as well? Yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, I'm a 501 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: young player. I mean this is technically year four, but 502 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: I missed my entire first year, so I mean I've 503 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: been around some ball. I haven't been around, you know, 504 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: as long as some other guys. I might not be 505 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: the best guy to answer that question, but I just 506 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: know that, you know, for us, talk is just you know, 507 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: day by day doing our job. And I think, you know, 508 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: if this year we really embraced that, you know, I 509 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: think we'll, you know, we'll do good. And I think 510 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: also last year, I think we had so much success, 511 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: like so quickly. It wasn't kind of it kind of 512 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it came overnight, but you know, 513 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: you go from eight and eight to all of a sudden, 514 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, you start a season seven that's you know, 515 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: doesn't really happen a lot. So that kind of gets 516 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: in your head now that we kind of have that 517 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: wake up call. How you know, you have to be 518 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 1: on point throughout the entire season. They're not just you know, 519 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: there's no easy games. I think that will be Uh, 520 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: that was kind of you know obviously you know you 521 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: wish he did better last year, but I think that 522 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: will help us a lot this year. Boy, that really 523 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: resonates with me when I listened to Zach say that, 524 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: because honestly, that is so true right there. It's one 525 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: thing to talk about it, but actually having it happened 526 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: to you, boy, that really is a learning opportunity. Well, 527 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: and some other guys I mentioned it's some other team leaders, 528 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: Budda Baker and so forth. Maybe the attention to detail, 529 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: maybe it waned a little bit of ten and two, etc. 530 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: So Yeah, considered a lesson learned. You you would hope, 531 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: uh you you hear him before you see him, your 532 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: new d line coach, Matt Burkey. He's really vocal. What's 533 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: upen like having that new voice around. It's great and 534 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: honestly has been a seamless transition. Um. You know, he's 535 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: really high energy and you know, just the style that 536 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: he's teaching, it's a lot of fun to play in. 537 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: It's just you know, go fast and they'll be violent, 538 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: and you know we'll correct all the mistakes after, you know, 539 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, obviously, you know, we all really 540 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: like Buck and you know, appreciate everything he's done. But 541 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's like you go from one great D 542 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: line coach to another great D line coach. So we 543 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: were really fortunate to have him, and um, you know, 544 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: it's been awesome to play for him. Are you particular 545 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: as to what side you'd like to play? Right side, 546 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: left side? That where exactly? Do you like to be 547 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: across the front seven? Yeah, honestly, I mean just the 548 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: way our defense is, you know, you kind of got 549 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: to know everything and you play uh, you know across. 550 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: But I know, um now I probably you know, become 551 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: a little bit more comfortable playing on the right side, 552 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: just because JJ more comfortable on the left, and um, 553 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: you know it works out well that you know, we're 554 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: both in our most comfortable spots. You like being over 555 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: the guard or over the tackle, um or over the 556 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: center de yeah did it all last YEA, Yeah, No, 557 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of a mix whatever, you know, it 558 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: depends on the look that down obviously, you know, you 559 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: know the certain looks where the play is going to 560 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: be made, so you obviously try to cheat it a 561 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, and as we wrap it up 562 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: with Zach Allen, who's the guy you would least want 563 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: to fight on this roster or who's the guy you 564 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: would want on your side as your wingman if you 565 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: walked into a biker bar full of Hell's Angels, who's 566 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: the dude you'd want with you on this team? I'd 567 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: take Lucky like he's a big boy's, you know, three 568 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: pounds of torso, So we'll take that. All right. That's good. 569 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: You got Lucky and you got your dog being so 570 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, life is good these days. Yes, there you go, 571 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: Zach Allen. Everyone on the Big Red rage As Weekend, 572 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: seeing you all brought to you by Satan Forard. We 573 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: are Santan Pord snapped the Lawrence Hilt throw short set 574 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: looks left, throws left and broken up incomplete, nearly intercepted 575 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: on the far sideline by Marco Wilson, who stepped in 576 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: front of Marvin Jones. What a great play by Marco Wilson. 577 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: Right there, Michelle running left and then he's cut down 578 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: on the far side of the ten yard line by 579 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: Marco Wilson. Oh my goodness, what a great tackle by 580 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: Marco Wilson. The corner dumps it off short left. It 581 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: has caught at the twenty five yard line. A huge 582 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: hit on the far side by Marco Wilson. He absolutely 583 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: levels the receiver. Marco Wilson comes up and I mean 584 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: delivers a blow. Oh pro Sprang Grasshopper, the fourth Brown 585 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: rookie out of Florida last year, ended up playing starter 586 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: snaps pretty much the entire season. We know he has 587 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: a talent in the measurables. You know he has a pedigree. 588 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: I mean his dad coaches dbs for a living. His 589 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: older brother has been an NFL dB as well. The 590 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: question is, okay, can he show that sort of consistency. 591 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: Can he take the next step to really appease the 592 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: decision makers and make him a bona fide starter from 593 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: maybe the next seven or eight years potentially the Cardinals 594 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: have a need? Can he fill that need? And guess what? 595 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: We got some news on the Marco Wilson front earlier 596 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: today that we'll get into here on the Big Red 597 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: Range presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley. 598 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: We're just joined by Zach Allen. How about some impressions 599 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: real quick on Zach Allen? How about I mean, how 600 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: about by the way, and kudos do you wolf? He said, 601 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, the coaches don't like the fights, but in 602 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: his words quote, it's always good to have at least 603 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: one real fight. That's right, boy, I mean, honestly, once again, 604 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: you'd heard me talk about it all the time. It 605 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: really sets the tone in the tempo, of course for 606 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: a football team, and a lot of times it will 607 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: relieve some pent up pressure inside of that locker room. 608 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: I know it doesn't seem like that would be the case. 609 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: I know that you would think, my goodness, you're gonna 610 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: fight one of your teammates. You're gonna fight him? Are 611 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: you kidding me? You're gonna fight You know what happens 612 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: the vast majority of the time after you fight him, 613 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: you totally hug it out after it's over, and you 614 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: kind of laugh at each other, and then all of 615 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: a sudden, everyone just the respect level returns to a 616 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: locker room. I just listen. I know that I talk 617 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: about it all the time, but yeah, that certainly can 618 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: happen inside the locker room, and I think Zach Allen 619 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: kind of alluded to that. They said their new D 620 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: line coach, Matt Burke, his one messages go be fast, 621 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: be violent, We'll fix everything later. He wants a physical 622 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: D line and it was amazing to me. My last 623 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: takeaway was just how banged up he was last year 624 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: with that ankle that on Mondays he needed help from 625 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: his girlfriend to get down the stairs. He could barely walk, 626 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: and somehow he was still playing on Sundays. Yeah. So 627 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: if he's fully healthy, because we know his rookie year 628 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: was wiped out by the neck injury. For the most part, 629 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: if you're looking for a guy who can really take 630 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: that next step, I know it's year four, but I 631 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: just get the sense Attack has so much more ceiling 632 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: to reach and productivity to bring to that defensive front. Yeah. 633 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: The other thing too, I liked about our conversation was 634 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: the fact that he likes playing on the right side 635 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: of the defense and J. J. Watt, of course likes 636 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: playing on the left side. That's very very interesting, right 637 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: there two guys that are very similar. Right, So the 638 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: two cornerbacks that we went into camp thinking, all right, 639 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: these are the two guys, Byron Murphy Junior and Marco Wilson. 640 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: And what's been interesting, Wolf is we've since learned and 641 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,239 Speaker 1: we started the off season this direction, and then the 642 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: tragic passing to Jeff Gladden. You figured that, you know what, 643 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy was going to be an outside corner even 644 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: though they prefer him inside. Well, guess what, Cliff Kingsbury 645 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: has been pretty vocal, they would really prefer Byron Murphy 646 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: Junior to be a slot corner, which just heightens the 647 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: importance of a Marco Wilson being one of those outside corners. 648 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: But earlier today, here's what Cliff Kingsbury had to say. 649 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: And the setup on this to some degree is that 650 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: some of the younger corners were wearing mits, as in 651 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: they let's just say, they have been holding and grabbing 652 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: and so they put somemits on him so they couldn't 653 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: do some of that, and that was sort of what 654 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: the question revolved around. And then listen to where Cliff 655 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: Kingsbury took it. I think that's a position that where 656 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: guys got to step up. Really like some of the veterans, 657 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: we have a different positions on defense. Murphy's really come 658 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: a long way, Marco. We want him to step up 659 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: and be in every down starter, but we'll see. I 660 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: think the jury is still out and the rest of 661 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: as young guys, somebody's got to step up and help 662 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: us out. Paul. As soon as I heard that, man, 663 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: I just want to jump in here. As soon as 664 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: I heard Cliff Kingsbury say that, you know what, Marco, 665 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: we want to see him actually step Bob, you know 666 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: we want we want to see this right here. You 667 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: know what I thought of immediately, Polly was Cliff Kingsbury 668 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: and the development of Cliff Kingsbury as a head coach. 669 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: It was the PAULI, this is what a head coach 670 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: is going to do. He's going to let some veteran 671 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: guys from time to time know that, hey, listen, you 672 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: know what, your reps maybe getting caught. He's got to 673 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: do that. Now. I'm not saying he's doing it here 674 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: with Marco Wilson. What I am saying young guys, young 675 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: guys that they want to continue to develop, You're gonna say, 676 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: you know what, Hey, he's got to stop up. He's 677 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: got to prove it to us. Basically, this is what 678 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: he's saying to Marco Wilson right now. I think it 679 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: is a tactic that a coach use, especially a head 680 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: coach uses to get young guys to develop, to challenge 681 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: young guys and make sure they don't get complacent. Paulie, 682 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: stop and think about it. Marco Wilson, through two thirds 683 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: of last season, I'll even go three quarters of last season, 684 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: he was as good as a rookie corner could possibly be. 685 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: And then he kind of tailed off at the end 686 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: of last year. And I don't think they want him 687 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: getting complacent at all. He was a starter and all 688 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden he tailed off at the end. I 689 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: don't think they want him to get complacent. I know 690 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: that that's a thin cornerback room as well, and maybe 691 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: that's what it is. Maybe they're trying to ring a 692 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: little urgency to Marco Wilson because he can look around 693 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: that cornerback room as well and see that he doesn't 694 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: have a packed room in terms of competition, because when 695 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: camp started, it was early in camp and Cliff Kingsbury's 696 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: feeding a lot of basic questions about, Okay, how where 697 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: the competitions on this roster, and he said Marco Wilson 698 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: was quote in the mix to be a starter. He 699 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: was not giving him a starting job, even though he 700 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: did exactly that most of the last year as a rookie. 701 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: He said he has to earn that job. And then 702 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph was asked if Marco Wilson needed a big camp, 703 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: and Vance Joseph told him me, well, I don't really 704 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: necessarily think he needs a big camp because you know, 705 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: he played so well last year, So it's almost like 706 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: a good cop bad cop going on between the head 707 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: coach and the defensive coordinator. But then Cliff Kingsbury doubled 708 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: down again today after Marco Wilson missed with a groin injury. Look, 709 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: I think there's some I think there's some general frustration 710 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: with the position itself, just in general. Last couple of days, 711 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: the head coach was irritated all the corners grabbing and 712 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: holding hens. He saw the mits out there in three 713 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: different guys at least today, But then hit zoom out 714 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: as you said, the position depth isn't there. I mean, 715 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: God forbid, the Cardinals have a real injury to one 716 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: of their primary guys a corner. They could really be hurting, 717 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: so the time is now. Otherwise there are guys out 718 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: in that market that I imagine might be a kind 719 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: time sign. Yeah, you know what, Polly too. Once again, 720 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: I just don't gloss over this. This is a big 721 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: moment for Cliff Kingsbury to come out and say that 722 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: about a guy that was a starter for the Arizona 723 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals last year in a room that is thin this year. 724 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: For him to actually say that, to challenge Marco Wilson, 725 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: this is a Grove spurg from Cliff Kingsbury. As far 726 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, I can almost hear Bill Belichick. Bill 727 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: Belichick used to do this same thing. He would let 728 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: he would let people know in the media, of course, 729 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, ask me about this position, or ask me 730 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: about you know, what kind of battle we've got going 731 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: on here in the you know, in side linebacker position 732 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. He would set it up 733 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he'd just give you 734 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: a very dry answer, and it was always about, you know, 735 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: he's got to play, he's got to step up and play. 736 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: He's got to prove it to us he can do that, 737 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's all he would say, Paul, 738 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: and then he would back it up. It is. This 739 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: is a growth opportunity right here for Cliff Kingsbury. And well, 740 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: if you spent ten years in the league, does a 741 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: message from the head coach to the media get to 742 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: the player in the locker room? Yes, yes it does, 743 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: Paul Okay, think think of two hosts of this show, 744 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage, Klais Campbell, he was going to 745 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls. Remember Bruce Arians was low to give Kleis 746 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: a real compliment, Yes, and then DJ Humphreys and what 747 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians said, DJ Humprey's rookie year, Paul yep, which 748 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: to this day DJ does not appreciate. Correct. So, yes, 749 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: there have been many messages sent through the media, and 750 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: you would qualify today's comments about Marco Wilson in that 751 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: position group when he says the jury is still out 752 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: and someone has to step up and help us out 753 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: quote quote absolutely so Hey, Cardinal season tickets available now. 754 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: Go to easy Cardinals dot com slash tickets for more info. 755 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: Easy Cardinals dot com slash tickets. All right, Isaiah Simmons, 756 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: big storyline, big position, We'll talk about that next on 757 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage presented by Satan four. In Gilbert, 758 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: they run Henry off the left side and he's tumped immediately, 759 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: and it's Isaiah Simmons knifing into the backfield to take 760 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: him down. I want to play by Simmons. You want 761 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: to talk about playing Downhill. Isaiah Simmons coming from the backside, 762 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: the weak side, inside linebacker making a play. I'm king 763 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: Henry Baby. Tan Hill takes the shotgun, snap backs up 764 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 1: as time steps up, throws over the middle to fleck 765 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: it into the air, and it is intercepted by Isaiah 766 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: Simmons at the forty five yard line. Sayah Simmons with 767 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: a heads up play. And one of the first questions 768 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: after he was a first round pick in your mind 769 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: Wolf was all right, how physical is he? We know 770 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: he's an athletic freak, a unicorn, but will he put 771 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: his nose in there and stick his face mask in 772 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: there into the fray? And the answer to that right 773 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: away he realized was what, yes, yes, he would. Ball 774 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: was the first thing I was looking for. And you 775 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: know what's interesting about that if you talk to Bill Davis, 776 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: that was the first thing that the inside linebacker coach 777 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals was looking for as well. Interesting. Interesting, 778 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: So okay, there you go. He answered that question. Now 779 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: the question is where exactly is he going to play 780 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: and what does that mean for the Cardinals defense? What 781 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: does that mean for the opposition? Because us media types 782 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: were there at camp the last week or so, like, 783 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 1: wait a minute, there's I say, Simmons on the edge. 784 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: There he is in the slot. There he is in 785 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: the middle of the defense. There he is in the 786 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: back end of the defense plane, center field, safety. All right, 787 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: So Vance Joseph, the defensive coordinator, was asked just to 788 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: describe position exactly is he playing? Coach right now, he's 789 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 1: a star you know, I was starbacker or safety, whatever 790 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: you want to call him. Um, he's playing well, you know, 791 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 1: but but we'll see. That's what camps for to kind 792 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: of figure out how far we can go with him 793 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: playing certain spots. A starbacker is a guy that plays 794 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: a linebacker, a little bit of safety, a little bit 795 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: of dime. I mean, he's a star position and in 796 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: this scheme, it can be a lot of places. Your 797 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: thoughts on that sounds like where needed, where he's going 798 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: to be the most lethal and effective is where he's 799 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: going to be. Yeah, Paully, first of all, let me 800 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: just say this quickly right now, Um, I I no 801 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: longer have these dreams of him being the week side 802 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: inside backer. Okay, where he's just you're gonna put him 803 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: there and he's going to be Thomas Davis. They're gonna 804 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: move him around. This is something that they have already 805 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: come to a conclusion about. They're gonna move him around today, 806 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: just today and today's practice. Polly, you already said it. 807 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: I saw him on the edge. I saw him in 808 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: the lot as a corner. I saw him lineup as 809 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: in the slot as a corner. I saw him as 810 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,479 Speaker 1: a week side inside linebacker. And I saw him playing 811 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: safety in the middle of the field, man free. He was. 812 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 1: He was the deep safety in the middle of the field, 813 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 1: man underneath on a blitz. They had blitz six guys 814 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: and he was the free safety in the middle of 815 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: the field, man free. It is. It is hysterical to me. 816 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't care where they put him now. I just 817 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: want Isaiah Simmons to make plays, plays that change games, 818 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: games that can be won because Isaiah Simmons is making plays. 819 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: That's what I want to see from this young guy. Yeah, 820 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: be a playmaker, be a difference maker. But you're right, 821 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: he's not exclusively an inside linebacker. And it doesn't sound 822 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: like he'll ever be so you know, I mean, we 823 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 1: might want to fire up, let it go from frozen 824 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 1: at this point. Ball okay, ball, And that's what I've done. 825 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: I have let it oh, just so make place. They 826 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: asked him Isaiah Simmons about his star backer role. It 827 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: feels like what it was last year, not too much more, 828 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: not too much less. I like the new name for it, though. 829 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of fitting so um. I 830 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: feel like it's a lot of similarities to Clemson. So 831 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: obviously that's how I got here, and that's what I 832 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: was comfortable with during all my college career. So being 833 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: able to do it at the highest level is I 834 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: guess a lot of courtesy to VJ, you know, for 835 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: allowing me to do that, and you know, also the 836 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: team for working with me, and you know, being able 837 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: to help me out. Guys like Buddha, guys like I mean, JJ, 838 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: everybody helping me out on all different levels, just to 839 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: be the best version of myself. The only thing better 840 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: than starbacker would have been grudgebacker. Paul all Right, the grudgebacker. 841 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: This guy's got an edge. Have you noticed Paul all 842 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: Isaiah's got an edge? To him. I mean he got 843 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: into it with DeAndre Hopkins, somebody he says is like 844 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: his best friend on the team, which was really intriguing 845 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 1: to hear, because I mean Dap was hot. He fired 846 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: the football at Isaiah, him square in the back between 847 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,919 Speaker 1: the numbers and the tune. Why was that, though, Paul? 848 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: Why did he do that? Because Isaiah came over and 849 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: was john at him. He's got an edge, Paul. I 850 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: saw a little check down to Eno Benjamin and there 851 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: was Isaiah Simmons. He was playing inside linebacker. He dropped 852 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: into a zone cover. They checked it down in front 853 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: of that zone to Eno, and he went whacked him, Paul, 854 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: and then throw him chucked him after you know I did. 855 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: He didn't have to do that. All he had to 856 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,479 Speaker 1: do was come up and tag him with both hands. 857 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: He didn't have to chuck him the way that he did. 858 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 1: And yet Isaiah dead. He's got a little something something 859 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: coming down the side of his neck. Paul, I use 860 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: a hockey term for him. After this CAMPU would've witnessed 861 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,439 Speaker 1: so far, I'm calling him an instigator. You're from Buffalo Wolf, 862 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, the guy in hockey who skates around and 863 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: he just sees just starting stuff. You know, he's giving 864 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: guys elbows, and he's a hip check here and a 865 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: face wash there. That's Isaiah Simmons. And and just like 866 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: some of the coaches, you hear him before you see him, 867 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: because he's always chirping and yapping and starting something. And 868 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: it's just the way he plays. It's it's it's is 869 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: adrenaline going. Yeah, Pauline, can I also say this too? 870 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: I was filled with hope, hope because I really today 871 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: was a day where I saw Isaiah Simmons and Zavan 872 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: Collins playing inside linebacker together. It didn't matter what the 873 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: down and distance was, Paully. They did it in run 874 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: down situation first and ten second and one to six. 875 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: They did it in third and obvious pass situations. They 876 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: took more reps together today as the inside linebacker. Now 877 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: they moved Isaiah all over, don't get me wrong, but 878 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: they took more reps today together as inside linebackers in 879 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,919 Speaker 1: certain down and distances and personnel groupings. It didn't matter. 880 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: They took more reps than I have seen them take 881 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: in any other practice as the inside linebackers. By the way, 882 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: did we not see Zaven actually fill the hole really 883 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: and react in a couple of drills. Correct, Yes, he did, 884 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: especially the inside drow where his eyes were on the 885 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: inside man. When he sees it and knows what to do, 886 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: he's a force. I was encouraged watching Zavin. Yeah, I 887 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: mean just like, look, remember what Jordan Hicks told us 888 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: last year. They're now departed middle linebacker and team captain, 889 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: and he said he would sit in the meeting rooms 890 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: look at Isaiah Simmons and look at Zavian Collins. Callan, 891 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: We've got a couple of legit freaks here. I mean, 892 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: these guys are huge, they're fast. So if you can 893 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: get Zaven Collins up to speed, now they got a 894 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: play like in Paulie all right, special thanks as always 895 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 1: to our senior broadcast manager and producer Jim i'm ahndro 896 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: technical director Zach Larson. How about Zach Allen the big 897 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: d lineman and his dog being the Bernadoodle. I'm really 898 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: well done. Whatever, Yeah, Ron Wolfley there, Paul Kelvici. Here, 899 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 1: this has been the Big Red Rage presented by Santan 900 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 1: four in Gilbert, You're Little Dog too, number one. Til 901 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: you've been listening to the Big Red Rage presented by 902 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: Santanford in Guilder. 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