Speaker 1: Kabooms.
Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants
Speaker 2: of the old republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He
Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the
Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: The Clearinghouse of Hot takes break free for something special.
Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now in.
Speaker 3: The air everywhere, The Fifth Hour with me, Ben Mahler,
Speaker 3: and good to have you with Danny g not here
Speaker 3: yet who We have a show to do today, and
Speaker 3: it's a big day because today is Kentucky Derby Day. Yay, whoa.
Speaker 3: Now we are not horse racing people. We did the
Speaker 3: equine pickam on the overnight show.
Speaker 1: Was that the other day? Friday?
Speaker 3: Was that Friday the end of the week, I believe
Speaker 3: it was. So we did the equine pick and we
Speaker 3: brought that back well. We each picked three horses for
Speaker 3: the Run for the Roses, which is later today in
Speaker 3: Louisville and always a reflective day. The first Saturday in
Speaker 3: the month of May. They've been running the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 3: They first ran it in eighteen seventy five, which is
Speaker 3: mind blowing, and when they ran it for the first time,
Speaker 3: nobody really cared, right, But now after all these years,
Speaker 3: it's kind of a big deal. There's only been a
Speaker 3: couple of times they haven't run the Derby. One was
Speaker 3: during World War One. That was in nineteen forty five,
Speaker 3: and I loved the story, which has been passed down
Speaker 3: over the years. The reason they could not run the
Speaker 3: Kentucky Derby in nineteen forty five they postponed it because
Speaker 3: the horses that would have been running in the Kentucky
Speaker 3: Derby were being reserved for the United States military to
Speaker 3: fight in World War One. So you imagined, like, if
Speaker 3: we had a war breakout, I mean, we're always seemingly
Speaker 3: at war with somebody, but if we had a war
Speaker 3: breakout here in twenty twenty five, would they be using
Speaker 3: the horses that would run these multi million dollar horses
Speaker 3: in the Kentucky Derby. Would those horses be used to
Speaker 3: fight for the US? Probably not.
Speaker 1: Of course, we don't really use horses all that much.
Speaker 3: So nineteen forty five was postponed and then twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: the second postponement of the Derby because of the pandemic
Speaker 3: that we all went through there, so that was the
Speaker 3: second time. But other than that, they've run year after
Speaker 3: year after year after year. So get your Mint jewliup
Speaker 3: ready and knock yourself out. And I also this time
Speaker 3: of the year, I often think what could have been?
Speaker 3: What could have been? And in my radio career, I've
Speaker 3: been at Fox Sports Radio for a long time.
Speaker 1: I did local radio for a while.
Speaker 3: I started out in Sunday Ago and when I was
Speaker 3: on the way up in my very early portion of
Speaker 3: my career, there were two jobs that I got offered
Speaker 3: early on that I wasn't really ready for, but I
Speaker 3: considered taking. One of them was an afternoon drive show
Speaker 3: in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Speaker 1: There was a radio station that I had.
Speaker 3: An opening and they were interested in my services, and
Speaker 3: I declined to go to Albuquerque, which I didn't really
Speaker 3: have that big an issue with because I thought, well,
Speaker 3: I'm not quite ready for it, I don't know anybody
Speaker 3: in Albuquerque, as I can get something somewhere else, and
Speaker 3: so that I wasn't upset with the one that I
Speaker 3: did think maybe I should do. This is what could
Speaker 3: have been had I taken the job to become the
Speaker 3: track side reporter at Santa Nita and Park, because back
Speaker 3: when I got into the radio business, for about twenty
Speaker 3: years or so, i'd say the eighties and the nineties,
Speaker 3: they the tracks had a radio reporter in the asshole
Speaker 3: who worked at the track, but really was there just
Speaker 3: to promote propaganda for the track, the horse reporter of course,
Speaker 3: of course, of course, and they would call into a
Speaker 3: handful of local radio stations and broadcast the results and
Speaker 3: also not the play by play.
Speaker 1: It was like live race.
Speaker 3: Commentary, but you would have a phone and you'd sit
Speaker 3: out there and you'd give periodic updates post race results,
Speaker 3: the payouts, the highlights of the races, what's upcoming, Hey,
Speaker 3: you're coming up today at the eighth race at Santa Anita,
Speaker 3: so and so and so and so so. Do you
Speaker 3: have information on the upcoming race. The whole point was
Speaker 3: to get people to come out to the track, right.
Speaker 3: You discussed the favorites, the odds, you talk about the trainers,
Speaker 3: the jockeys, all that stuff, and then once the day
Speaker 3: was done, you'd do a post race wrap up. And
Speaker 3: at that time before the Internet, there were people that
Speaker 3: would bet and didn't know the results or maybe didn't
Speaker 3: know the odds, and so this is how they would
Speaker 3: get that information. So anyway, that was a job that
Speaker 3: was offered to me. It paid pretty good money, pretty
Speaker 3: good money, and I did not do it. I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm not really a horse racing guy. I like going
Speaker 3: to the track. Back then, I didn't really like it
Speaker 3: that much, but I like going to the track a
Speaker 3: couple times a year betting on the ponies. I like
Speaker 3: the vibe out there. I love the fact that you
Speaker 3: go to the horse track. And I've never been at
Speaker 3: Churchill Downs, but I imagine it's the same. I've been
Speaker 3: to Santa Anita and a few other tracks around the country.
Speaker 1: I haven't been to Belmont Park.
Speaker 3: But you go to the tracks and it's super wealthy
Speaker 3: billionaires on one side, and then on the other side
Speaker 3: you've got very poor people and they intermingle in this clash,
Speaker 3: this dichotomy of rich and poor and don't really need
Speaker 3: to be here. I'm so wealthy, I'm just flaunting my money.
Speaker 3: And then you've got the poor people who are trying
Speaker 3: to hit the big ticket, win big money on the day,
Speaker 3: and so they're side by side, and then you've got
Speaker 3: the smell of crap from the horses. If you're down wind,
Speaker 3: it's just a magical place. And they're normally beautiful. They're
Speaker 3: normally beautiful. So today, being Derby Day, I flashed back
Speaker 3: to what could have been if I had taken that
Speaker 3: job on site reporter, and I would have been describing
Speaker 3: the atmosphere and interviewing trainers and jockeys and all that.
Speaker 3: And that job does not even exist anymore, for it's
Speaker 3: been a long time. It's been a minute, so that
Speaker 3: job does not exist. As far as I know, that
Speaker 3: job is not around anymore. And when I was on
Speaker 3: my way up the ladder at Saddleback College, one of
Speaker 3: the guys that was ahead of me at Saddleback actually
Speaker 3: became a big horse racing guy. He went that direction,
Speaker 3: went that direction, and I lost track of him. But
Speaker 3: last I had heard he did end up for at
Speaker 3: least a number of years in Louisville, and he had
Speaker 3: a job, a prominent job at Churchill Downs in that world.
Speaker 1: He then went to.
Speaker 3: Dallas after that, at a track in Dallas. But he
Speaker 3: had bounced around and he had had a good run
Speaker 3: in the horse racing world, so he had had some success. Now,
Speaker 3: before we get too much Further, I don't want to
Speaker 3: do all sporty stuff. You know, this is not a
Speaker 3: sporty podcast. This is not a sporty podcast at all. However,
Speaker 3: I didn't want to mention since I was I was
Speaker 3: up watching last night the Golden State Warriors. I have
Speaker 3: no skin in the game, as you know my allegiances.
Speaker 3: I just want a good story, that's all I want.
Speaker 3: But I am biased towards the Clippers. I would like
Speaker 3: to see the Clippers be successful and the Clippers play
Speaker 3: later today.
Speaker 1: How dare you in game seven? The greatest words in sports?
Speaker 1: Game seven?
Speaker 3: You just want to close games, Evan, in the final
Speaker 3: couple of minutes, everything on the line. That's all you want, right,
Speaker 3: You just want that wonderful So I'm in right, and
Speaker 3: you know everyone's all the Nuggets should win.
Speaker 1: The Nugget should win. They're at home. Why are the
Speaker 1: Clippers even bothering to show up? I know all that.
Speaker 3: Stuff, I get all the trolls in my inbox. I
Speaker 3: got you very very happy. I know, like true trolls,
Speaker 3: if the outcome happens that you do not want, you
Speaker 3: will crawl behind the refrigerator and go into hiding again.
Speaker 3: I totally understand that we know how this works, so
Speaker 3: I'm not shocked by that at all. But as far
Speaker 3: as the the gambling information, because it's all about the
Speaker 3: gambling information, as we like to say here, the Clippers
Speaker 3: and Nuggets, and the Nuggets opened up.
Speaker 1: A one point underdog.
Speaker 3: They're favored by a point and I have even though
Speaker 3: the road team has one. I think it's like eight
Speaker 3: of the last eleven. We had the stat the other
Speaker 3: night on the Overnight show with the Denver Nuggets are
Speaker 3: now a one and a half point favorite, so that
Speaker 3: line has flipped by two and a half points. The
Speaker 3: money is pretty heavy in favor of both the public
Speaker 3: liking the Nuggets and the sharps liking the Nuggets. So
Speaker 3: we'll see if they're right or not. Coopers and Nuggets
Speaker 3: in Game seven day. But on Friday night last night,
Speaker 3: the Warriors could not lose. There's no way they could lose.
Speaker 3: Steve Kerr had given up, he had raised the white flag.
Speaker 3: He the old woke coach there, had said, all right,
Speaker 3: we give up. We're done. In Game five. We're not
Speaker 3: gonna even try to win. We're gonna rest our starters.
Speaker 3: And as I mentioned in a previous episode, of the
Speaker 3: radio show. It's like, I don't have a problem with
Speaker 3: Steve Kerr pulling his starters midway through, but when the
Speaker 3: game got back in to reach, you put your starters
Speaker 3: back in and go for the jugular.
Speaker 1: Mister.
Speaker 3: I'm so worried about the health of my team. I
Speaker 3: happen to watch some of the Warriors feed because Doris
Speaker 3: Burke is so.
Speaker 1: Freaking annoying to me. Oh my god, she is so bad.
Speaker 3: So I flipped over to the Warriors feed that I got,
Speaker 3: and I'm watching that on one of those Russian websites.
Speaker 3: I'm watching the Warriors feed and the broadcaster for the
Speaker 3: Warriors I started laughing and I almost puked in my mouth.
Speaker 1: They were claiming that the Warriors were.
Speaker 3: Having issues because they had to fly, you know, these
Speaker 3: long flights between San Francisco and Houston. And I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: to myself, are these guys idiots? Like are the Warrior
Speaker 3: fans morons? Is anyone think that's an issue? So let
Speaker 3: me get straight. So the Warrior players have to get
Speaker 3: on their their chartered flight which waits for them. They
Speaker 3: have to have a vip bus service take them to
Speaker 3: the airport. They get on a chartered flight, they go
Speaker 3: to their five star resort hotel by police escort. And
Speaker 3: this is somehow grueling travel that's wearing these players. Now,
Speaker 3: what are we doing? They're not traveling by train. This
Speaker 3: is not Babe Ruth in the nineteen thirties or whatever,
Speaker 3: traveling by train.
Speaker 1: This is not it. This is I mean, what are
Speaker 1: we doing? I just I laughed.
Speaker 3: But the Warriors lost, and they lost in glorious fashion.
Speaker 3: Glorious fashion going to the fourth quarter. It was a
Speaker 3: two point game. The Rockets had a two point lead
Speaker 3: over Golden State going to the fourth quarter, and in
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter the Rockets led by as many as
Speaker 3: seven I think it was seventeen.
Speaker 1: At one point in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: The final score was not necessarily indicative of how dominating
Speaker 3: it was. Rockets ended up winning by eight, but they
Speaker 3: were up by seventeen in the fourth quarter. And I
Speaker 3: remember when Golden State went up through the theory that
Speaker 3: nobody knows anything and everyone's just making it up. And
Speaker 3: if you want to be a sports pundent, just throw
Speaker 3: a bunch of big words together and make it seem
Speaker 3: like you know what you're talking about. And if you're
Speaker 3: speaking cliches, a lot of people just fall asleep and
Speaker 3: they'll just.
Speaker 1: Go for it.
Speaker 3: So I bring that up because I heard, Well, the
Speaker 3: Rockets just aren't there yet.
Speaker 1: They haven't gotten there.
Speaker 3: The Warriors have that championship pedigree and they just know
Speaker 3: how to win.
Speaker 1: Playoff Jimmy Steph Curry just oohz is confidence, just oohs
Speaker 1: his confidence.
Speaker 3: So I'm thinking of that, and I'm watching the game
Speaker 3: last night in the fourth quarters, two point game, going
Speaker 3: to the fourth quarter, Rockets have all these bozos who
Speaker 3: are not there yet and all this, and so how
Speaker 3: did that go? Let's see Steph Curry in the fourth
Speaker 3: quarter two point game, took seven shots, missed six of them.
Speaker 3: He was one of seven, one of seven. While he
Speaker 3: was on the court, the Warriors were plus minus outscored
Speaker 3: by eleven points.
Speaker 1: But wait, there's more.
Speaker 3: How about playoff Jimmy, Jimmy Butler, all right, took five shots,
Speaker 3: made as many shots as you and I made zero
Speaker 3: for five from the floor, and while he was on
Speaker 3: the court, a minus thirteen with playoff Jimmy on the court.
Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter. So okay, And then.
Speaker 3: You got Fred van Vliet shoving it down your throat.
Speaker 3: You were playing hack and Adams. Hacking Adams is the
Speaker 3: game plan there for Steve Kerr giving him the old
Speaker 3: Shaquillo O'Neal treatment from back many years ago. But Steven
Speaker 3: Adams kept going to the foul line and over and
Speaker 3: over and over and oh he had sixteen foul shots
Speaker 3: because they were doing hacking Adams.
Speaker 1: But it was really the Fred van Vliet game.
Speaker 3: They had twenty nine points, another dud from Jalen Green,
Speaker 3: who's just not a playoff player, just not a playoff player.
Speaker 3: You are what your resume says you are. And Alfred
Speaker 3: Sengun getting it done also with twenty one and fourteen.
Speaker 3: So the Rockets set up a game set which I'm
Speaker 3: fired up for because Game seven is coming up on
Speaker 3: Sunday night and we go on the radio tomorrow at
Speaker 3: night after that game will be on and get to
Speaker 3: break it down.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited about that Game seven.
Speaker 3: But wow, it is a great story if the Rockets
Speaker 3: end up winning this because Steve Kerr, the wokester you
Speaker 3: pull back the curtain here, and he's the know of
Speaker 3: these guys, smartest gather room. He's not a big as
Speaker 3: big a schmuck as JJ Reddick. But the arrogance, the
Speaker 3: absolute elitism of Steve Kerr, like, oh no, no, you
Speaker 3: can't put your starters back in once you're thinking your
Speaker 3: starters out.
Speaker 1: There's some impossible you cannot do that.
Speaker 2: What do you what are you thinking about?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that whole bull crap.
Speaker 3: Oh god, it's I don't know if anyone cares nationally
Speaker 3: about the Rockets.
Speaker 1: They probably don't.
Speaker 3: And I don't really have anything pro or against the Rockets.
Speaker 3: Just to think that the Warriors could futch this away
Speaker 3: up three to one, which has only happened a handful
Speaker 3: of times in the history of the NBA. And to
Speaker 3: do it because you were resting in Game five to
Speaker 3: win Game six, and then you end up losing Game six,
Speaker 3: and now you got to go to a game seven.
Speaker 3: And even if you win a game seven, Minnesota is
Speaker 3: sitting there relaxing, having a cocktail, eating a juicy Lucy
Speaker 3: as they just sit.
Speaker 1: Back and wait for the winner of this series.
Speaker 3: I also saw that Greg Popovich has stepped down and
Speaker 3: pop lost it many many years ago.
Speaker 1: Who goofed?
Speaker 3: I've got to know Greg Popovich, who has been around
Speaker 3: a long time, and when I started as a radio
Speaker 3: stringer and a talk show host. Popovich was a young
Speaker 3: head coach at the time, and he was always a schmuck.
Speaker 3: He's always a bit of a douche, but in his
Speaker 3: later years he became king of all a holes. Craig Popovitch,
Speaker 3: I don't know anyone that's upset. Popovich is not going
Speaker 3: to be coaching the San Antonio Spurs anymore. You know,
Speaker 3: he's got some health problems there, and you know, you
Speaker 3: know that happens you get older. You don't want to
Speaker 3: see it happen, but it happens to everybody. If you
Speaker 3: live long enough, you'll be blessed enough to have some
Speaker 3: crap go wrong. For as much of the criticism has
Speaker 3: been directed at Bill Belichick since Tom Brady exited stage left,
Speaker 3: since Tom Brady walked away from the Patriots and Bill
Speaker 3: Belichick and the Patriots fell apart. Now Bill's just concerned
Speaker 3: with his sugar baby, and that's it. Since he coaches
Speaker 3: in San Antonio. If you you've noticed the San Antonio Spurs,
Speaker 3: there's a if you if you're to make a ven diagram,
Speaker 3: a ven diagon of Greg Popovic and the Spurs and
Speaker 3: when pop had to coach up lesser players, right, coach
Speaker 3: up players that were not all that good, players that
Speaker 3: were a little a little out.
Speaker 1: There on the spectrum.
Speaker 3: It has been a absolute sixteen car pile up on
Speaker 3: the interstate there as Popovich has had not one, not two,
Speaker 3: not three, not four, not five. How about six consecutive
Speaker 3: losing seasons as an NBA head coach. Six consecutive losing
Speaker 3: seasons as an NBA coach, and now they gave him
Speaker 3: some figurehead job in the organization. But I'm not going
Speaker 3: to miss Greg Popovic as he's finally done after twenty
Speaker 3: nine seasons with the San Antonio Spurs. So that is
Speaker 3: that did have the alf birthday influence. I did want
Speaker 3: to mention this the ALF they influencer. So my weekend
Speaker 3: is going on obviously right now. Last night was the
Speaker 3: beginning of the weekend, and so we have the birthday celebration,
Speaker 3: which is really going to be a series of events
Speaker 3: birthdays during the week. I'm like, I'm all grown up,
Speaker 3: so you can't really celebrate during the week because you know,
Speaker 3: you're not supposed.
Speaker 1: To do that during the week. It's a school night
Speaker 1: and all that.
Speaker 3: So I didn't really do much celebrating. I did have
Speaker 3: a cousin visited, which was really cool to see one
Speaker 3: of my cousins who lives in Colorado, who was in
Speaker 3: town for a work conference, and so he came by
Speaker 3: and visited, and I got a few random gifts and
Speaker 3: had a zoom call like a FaceTime call with my
Speaker 3: my brothers, which was nice. I don't talk to them
Speaker 3: very often, and so that was fun. As far as
Speaker 3: my cheat meal on my birthday, it was inspired in
Speaker 3: part by Alf the Alien of Partners.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I don't know what to eat.
Speaker 1: I usually fast and I don't eat that much, eat the.
Speaker 3: Same few things over and over and over, as I
Speaker 3: what am I gonna do? It's, you know, the birthday,
Speaker 3: and so Alf mentioned I'm not usually on X during
Speaker 3: the day, but I don't even know if this was
Speaker 3: at night or during the day.
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure, but I saw it.
Speaker 3: I just popped on there for a second and it
Speaker 3: was like, Hey, I'm going to have an apple fritter
Speaker 3: in your honor for your birthday. I said, oh, man,
Speaker 3: you know, I've not had an apple fritter donut in.
Speaker 1: A long time.
Speaker 3: That's a great f an idea to have an apple fritter.
Speaker 3: That is a wonderful, wonderful idea. So I should have
Speaker 3: an apple fritter, and so I did. But I had
Speaker 3: that pastrami fries, a couple of chicken fingers, and then
Speaker 3: I had a delicious apple fritter, A very unhealthy meal
Speaker 3: and wonderful. One of my favorite cheat meals is the
Speaker 3: pastrami fry. Big fan, big fan, and I've mostly been
Speaker 3: eating it at the house here at the mallor mansion,
Speaker 3: preparing my food, cooking my food, all that stuff. Have
Speaker 3: not been spending a ton of time eating out. But
Speaker 3: it was a nice, nice day with the wife, and
Speaker 3: then hung out with my dog, Moxie. I put a
Speaker 3: photo up of me and mox as Moxie hangs out
Speaker 3: with me most of the.
Speaker 1: Evening when I'm watching games.
Speaker 3: I got Moxie to my right and normally sleeping with
Speaker 3: not any care in the world, as I am freaking out,
Speaker 3: pulling my hair out, what's left of my hair out,
Speaker 3: trying to get the radio show together, trying to prepare,
Speaker 3: get everything good to go. And I did get a
Speaker 3: message from the great Karen k KK who was with
Speaker 3: me in the original run on the Overnight Show years ago,
Speaker 3: and she's she's the big bulldog woman.
Speaker 1: She always had bulldogs.
Speaker 3: Everyone Stuid known KK and she was very excited to
Speaker 3: see photos of Moxie. So there's some bulldog bonding going on,
Speaker 3: some bulldog bonding going on. Time now for the phraseus
Speaker 3: all the week, that's right, the phrases of the week.
Speaker 3: So I thought we'll do something a little different here,
Speaker 3: the phrases of the week.
Speaker 1: Now, let me explain.
Speaker 3: Normally we do a phrase of the week, but we're
Speaker 3: gonna do the phrases of the week on this Saturday
Speaker 3: in honor of the Kentucky Derby. There are so many
Speaker 3: phrases that are used day to day that are from
Speaker 3: horse racing, colloquial phrases that go back to the eighteen
Speaker 3: hundreds that started at the track and have worked their
Speaker 3: way into the lexicon. You think of horse racing, you
Speaker 3: think of boxing, that have given us so many of
Speaker 3: the terms that we use in our American day to
Speaker 3: day idioms and things like that, and of course you
Speaker 3: go back even further to Shakespeare. There's so many phrases
Speaker 3: and words that are Shakespearean. But in terms of our
Speaker 3: world right now, since today is Kentucky Derby Day, the
Speaker 3: phrases of the week.
Speaker 1: The Phrases of the Week.
Speaker 3: The first phrase, which we have used before on this show,
Speaker 3: but there are always new people listening, is dark horse.
Speaker 1: All right, dark horse.
Speaker 3: Now, a dark horse is a lesser known horse that
Speaker 3: does very well, that's not supposed to do well, that
Speaker 3: does very well.
Speaker 1: So now, of course it's known as you're describing.
Speaker 3: An underdog or a team that is a surprise, that
Speaker 3: is not supposed to be that good. But the phrase
Speaker 3: dark horse originated in horse racing in the early nineteenth century,
Speaker 3: and it referred to a horse that people didn't really
Speaker 3: know that much about, didn't know it was.
Speaker 1: Good or bad or anything like that.
Speaker 3: It was not supposed to be a contender in the race,
Speaker 3: and it sure enough became a contender.
Speaker 1: The earliest recorded use.
Speaker 3: Is attributed to a gentleman at eighteen thirty one, who
Speaker 3: wrote in a novel The Young Duke. He wrote, a
Speaker 3: dark horse, which had never been thought of, rush past
Speaker 3: the grandstand in sweet triumph, and so that phrase eighteen
Speaker 3: thirty one. The phrase gained more of a regular occurrence
Speaker 3: in the eighteen forties eighteen fifties, horse racing became a
Speaker 3: big deal, not only in the US, but also in Britain,
Speaker 3: and from that point on it became a regular phrase
Speaker 3: in reports from the track and all that, and then
Speaker 3: by the mid nineteenth century it was here to stay.
Speaker 3: In politics, it crossed over. The first notable use early
Speaker 3: on was to describe James Polk, James K.
Speaker 1: Polk, who was a candidate, but.
Speaker 3: An unexpected candidate who won the US presidential nomination in
Speaker 3: eighteen forty four, and the newspapers. That was back when
Speaker 3: people read newspapers, and he got the labeled dark horse.
Speaker 3: Of course, now it's used for any underdog or surprise
Speaker 3: situation that the so and so is a dark horse.
Speaker 3: And it's not just a sports term. Another phrase that
Speaker 3: came from horse racing.
Speaker 1: As we're doing the phrases of the week, how about
Speaker 1: buy a nose.
Speaker 3: It's another horse racing term from a horse winning a
Speaker 3: race by a photo finish, which is also a horse
Speaker 3: racing term. But buy a nose, right, the narrowest margin possible.
Speaker 3: So if you do something and get it done by
Speaker 3: a very small margin, by a nose is the phrase.
Speaker 3: The term emerging again late nineteenth nineteenth the early twentieth century,
Speaker 3: as horse racing became more and more popular and you
Speaker 3: were determining the winner, and you carefully observe and go
Speaker 3: to that photo, finish technology and all that, and again
Speaker 3: sports journalism on the eighteen nineties, eighteen nineties, they would
Speaker 3: put that in the newspaper. There's an example from nineteen
Speaker 3: oh two. Newspaper said blue streak one buy a nose
Speaker 3: over ironclad.
Speaker 1: And so then it moved.
Speaker 3: After that over the years that followed politics, sports, it's
Speaker 3: all by a nose.
Speaker 1: But wait, there's more. Got a couple more phrases of
Speaker 1: the week. All right, so how about this one.
Speaker 3: Also ran. That's pretty good, right, Also ran? Now, also
Speaker 3: ran is an obvious Once you hear it, you'll be like, oh,
Speaker 3: that makes sense, But if you don't know what it means,
Speaker 3: you're like Also ran is a horse that does not
Speaker 3: place in the money, meaning not in the top three,
Speaker 3: but describes someone who was in the competition but didn't
Speaker 3: get it done. So a horse racing phrase again late
Speaker 3: nineteenth century. Earliest known use in print was in the
Speaker 3: eighteen nineties. And give an example. The winner was black Diamond,
Speaker 3: followed by Starlight and Thunder. The others also ran ooh yeah,
Speaker 3: they also ran. And so that term also ran just
Speaker 3: was if you ran the race, you finished the race,
Speaker 3: but you didn't get any money.
Speaker 1: That's how it worked.
Speaker 3: The phrase has stayed in the lexicon all these years,
Speaker 3: and it's a very versatile phrase. Also ran a team
Speaker 3: that's not very good, like the Angels. I was watching
Speaker 3: the Angel game last night. They gave up eight runs
Speaker 3: to the Detroit Tigers and the ninth inning. Don't ask
Speaker 3: me why I was watching the Angel game. I was
Speaker 3: just flipping around and the Angels were playing the Tigers,
Speaker 3: and I flipped over to the game and I was like, man,
Speaker 3: but those Angels, they're also rans. That game was not O's,
Speaker 3: that was not by an O's And if the Angels
Speaker 3: were to win, they would definitely be a dark horse.
Speaker 3: Art last one, last one across the board, across the board,
Speaker 3: the last one here on the fifth hour. Now, originally
Speaker 3: any of this is on over the Kentucky Derby. All
Speaker 3: these phrases came from horse racing. So across the board
Speaker 3: originally referred to a bet covering first, second, and third place.
Speaker 3: It now means covering all the different possibilities, all the
Speaker 3: possibilities out there. And it originated like all these other phrases,
Speaker 3: because of gambling, and in the nineteenth mid nineteenth century,
Speaker 3: if you said, hey, I across the board, it was
Speaker 3: a bet, a wager that was placed on a single
Speaker 3: horse to finish in any of the top three spots,
Speaker 3: so first, second, or third, which is win place or
Speaker 3: show one placer show, and the bet covered all those outcomes,
Speaker 3: and so that was it, and over time, like everything
Speaker 3: else here, that phrase has continued on. But that one
Speaker 3: across the board goes back from when there were no
Speaker 3: computers and they.
Speaker 1: Used tote boards.
Speaker 3: They used chalkboards at racetracks to display the odds and
Speaker 3: show all the bets, and so if you went across
Speaker 3: the board, you were effectively betting all on all three
Speaker 3: categories listed on the board, spreading your risk and increasing
Speaker 3: your chance of getting something something in return. So that
Speaker 3: is the jargon, all of these phrases horse racing jargon
Speaker 3: that worked its way into the everyday.
Speaker 1: Language that we use.
Speaker 3: And there's some other ones, but it's only a half
Speaker 3: an hour podcast. We don't have time on the pod,
Speaker 3: nor do you want me to go in to all
Speaker 3: of the possibilities here that are out there. But that's
Speaker 3: a few of them, and those are some good once.
Speaker 3: We'll enjoy the Kentucky Derby today. Enjoy the Clippers and
Speaker 3: the Nuggets and the Clippers winning that game today.
Speaker 1: That'll be fun. And we will have a mail bag,
Speaker 1: mail bag. I will have a mail bag on Sunday.
Speaker 3: Have a great rest of your Saturday, whatever you're up
Speaker 3: to today.
Speaker 1: It's early while we're recording this, and we'll get you
Speaker 1: next time.
Speaker 3: As Danny G would say, later, skater osta pasta?
Speaker 1: What kind of pasta is that? I have never heard
Speaker 1: of that part? Asta pasta? Is that like a spaghetti?
Speaker 1: Is that? Do we know exactly what that is? I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Is that it's not a ravioli. It's definitely not a ravioli.
Speaker 3: No oh, I'm told it's not a ravioli.
Speaker 1: I'm out. Why are you still here? My flation