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Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody to a tgi F edition of Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access. I am your host, John Harris Football and

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Speaker 1: a sideline reporter, joined by the voice of the Texans,

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Speaker 1: Mark Vannimer. Mark, good afternoon. Or you're ready to talk quarterbacks? Johnny?

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to talk quarterbacks always. We always love talking quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: especially on my new microphone. Which does it sound deeper?

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Speaker 1: Do I sound Luke? I am your fun I need

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Speaker 1: the plans to the Death Star. Does this mic sound deeper?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it does. It sounds pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I mean in my ears it does, and then one

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Speaker 1: of my ears I'm deaf, so it sounds good to me. Okay, good,

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Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah. Somebody that wasn't deaf was Quinn Depps.

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Speaker 1: We'll have him later on with the where are they now? Well? Mark,

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Speaker 1: I saw us today and I immediately circled it. And

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Speaker 1: there was a tweet those put out by a guy

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Speaker 1: that I follow. The name's Charles McDonald. He covers the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's covered for now. He's bounced around

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Speaker 1: and I think it was him. Maybe somebody else that

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Speaker 1: tweeted something to extend I don't pay attention to Mad Ratings.

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Speaker 1: But this one got me and he was talking about

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Oh boy, and I had to one thousand

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Speaker 1: percent agree with him. Agree. So I threw this out

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Speaker 1: to our guys that Aaron here, Tyler Sattar, Jared huff

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Speaker 1: Video Jr. Video, guys that do a great job. And

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Speaker 1: I just threw it out there, and I said to him,

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Speaker 1: who's the number one quarterback in the league? So I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you the same question, who's the number one quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the league? Just note thinking about it, just you

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Speaker 1: got three seconds to answer, who's as quarterback in the league?

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady? Really? Have you heard of him? I had good,

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Speaker 1: He's pretty good. You think he's the number one quarterback asolutely?

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Speaker 1: Because listen, who else is going to take that team

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Speaker 1: even as far as he did last year? Right? And

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Speaker 1: last year they roared back in that game against the Rams,

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Speaker 1: the playoff loss, could have, would have should have. They

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Speaker 1: didn't do it. The year before they win the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Who else can do that? I'm sorry you drop Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers in the middle of a West coast of Florida

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Speaker 1: with that squad in twenty twenty. I don't believe they're

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Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl, Johnny, Okay, you've brought up a

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Speaker 1: great there are other factors then, Oh, this guy's better

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Speaker 1: mobility or he's got a stronger arm or whatever. There

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Speaker 1: are other factors to playing the position than that, and

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Speaker 1: I have multiple examples. Go ahead. I can't believe that

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Speaker 1: you actually have said Tom Brady because you must work

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Speaker 1: for Madden. Now. I don't have too much of an

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Speaker 1: issue of Tom Brady actually being the number one Rady quarterback. Okay,

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Speaker 1: as he is his ratings and ninety seven I find

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Speaker 1: that awful little bit considering nearly every other position head

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Speaker 1: of ninety nine at that particular position. But Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: number one, number two was or is Aaron Rodgers, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers ninety six. Number three, it's either Mahomes or Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: I'll say Mahomes. It's Mahomes, Okay, ninety five. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know this. I only know the second year quarterbacks because

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Speaker 1: I heard that debate earlier. Yeah, number four, And this

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Speaker 1: is where I have a little bit of an issue,

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Speaker 1: well not a little bit of issue issue. It's Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: It's not so much that it's Josh Allen. I do

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Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear across the board. The top four

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL, however you want to slice them,

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Speaker 1: are Brady Rogers, Alan Mahomes, the four quarterbacks that played

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Speaker 1: in the match golf. Those are the four best, and

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Speaker 1: depending on where your team is in its development, you

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Speaker 1: could take any one of those four quarterbacks. If you're,

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Speaker 1: you know, a younger team, maybe you want Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: you want to have him for an extended period of time,

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Speaker 1: Maybe Patrick Mahomes at that point. If you're a team

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Speaker 1: running a precipice like the Colts, give the Colts Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady and see what happens, right, So you could pick

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Speaker 1: any one of those four. I think what I had

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Speaker 1: an issue with are the ratings those four quarterbacks. There's

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Speaker 1: no there's no team in the league that but turn

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Speaker 1: any one of those four away, other than the teams

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Speaker 1: that actually have those four players. Tom Brady is in

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Speaker 1: ninety seven, Aaron Rodgers ninety six, Patrick Mahomes and ninety

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Speaker 1: five Josh Allen ninety two. At ninety two, you're talking

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Speaker 1: about the ninth or tenth receiver in the league. Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen's a ninety two. So do they grade on a

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Speaker 1: So they're saying Josh Allen right at about the top

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Speaker 1: If anything, you should inflate the value of the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: like all the other ranging systems do, thank you. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: I've got to win one game tomorrow, I've still probably

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Speaker 1: taken Rogers. I think Brady would be fourth for me

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Speaker 1: at this point, even though I love Tom Brady. I

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Speaker 1: just think that Mahomes and Allen to a different level,

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Speaker 1: and you know how I feel about quarterbacks that can

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Speaker 1: move a little bit. Fifth on the list was Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow with a ninety. Now I know for a fact

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Speaker 1: the receiver A ninety didn't even get you to the the top.

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Speaker 1: They did get you at number ten. Amari Cooper was

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Speaker 1: in ninety, Joe Burrows in ninety, justin Herbert's an eight eight,

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Speaker 1: one step behind Dak Prescott in eighty nine, Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: eighty seven, same with Lamar Jackson, and Matthew Stafford rounds

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Speaker 1: it out at eighty five. I don't know who does

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Speaker 1: these ratings. I really don't. I have no idea who's

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Speaker 1: doing these ratings, but I don't know. I probably would

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Speaker 1: come up with a similar ten, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: that I could put them a in this order and

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Speaker 1: be with those particular rankings. Well, whoever does these ratings

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Speaker 1: is doing a terrific job at getting people to talk

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Speaker 1: about them on the radio, yes, and getting people to

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Speaker 1: complain about them. Social media was going nuts today with

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Speaker 1: the second year quarterback ratings in Houston. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: that in a moment, But hang on a second. I

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Speaker 1: didn't catch this. Justin Herbert is behind Dak Prescott. Yes,

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Speaker 1: in what universe? Right do we do this? I have

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Speaker 1: no idea, And not to take anything away from Dak.

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Speaker 1: I like Dak Prescott. Yeah, come on, Justin Herbert behind

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Kiss. Let's do a little draft here, Let's

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Speaker 1: do a little win one game next week here? In

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Speaker 1: any which way you want to debate this Herbert's coming

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Speaker 1: in ahead of Prescott. Allen has rated way too low.

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Speaker 1: And what were some of the other ones you had

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Speaker 1: in there? Joe Burrows in a ninety I mean you

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Speaker 1: can make your case that Josh, that Josh Allen Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow are both ninety five plus comparatively to one of

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Speaker 1: the other rankings that we've seen. And maybe it's well,

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Speaker 1: he's already done it for a couple of years. I

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Speaker 1: don't know Josh Allen's going in year five. It's crazy

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Speaker 1: as that sounds into year five. Is it a lifetime

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Speaker 1: Achievement Award? Is that why Brady is the number one quarterback?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think it's quite that,

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Speaker 1: but I just don't get it. I mean, Matt staffords

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Speaker 1: an eighty five, eighty five they gave to Shawn eighty four,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and eighty also, I'm sorry, Kyler Murray is

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Speaker 1: at eighty three. Matt Ryan's eighty one, Kirk Cousins eighty

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Speaker 1: and then we can get to the second year quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones at seventy eight. He is the my matth

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Speaker 1: is correct to see the highest rated twenty twenty one quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He is, Yes, he is, he is. He is at

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Speaker 1: seventy eight and Davis Mills came in at seventy one.

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Speaker 1: He is the lowest ranked of the second year quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Three year disagree, Well, obviously I disagree with that. You

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Speaker 1: I just put it on a t FO. You go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they just look at where you were drafted and what's

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Speaker 1: the buzz factor of the quarterback? Now Mills has a

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Speaker 1: buzz factor that's going up a little bit because I

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Speaker 1: necessarily football people, but they're commentators like the Pete Priscos

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Speaker 1: happen to be at a game that Mills is playing in.

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Speaker 1: But now they're watching Mills saying, you know what, he's

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Speaker 1: better than people think. And I think that's what people

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Speaker 1: who have him rated as the lowest second year quarterback

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Speaker 1: on the board. How can you put fields ahead of

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Speaker 1: him in this game? Right? And if the logic is well,

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Speaker 1: all around play all different aspects, because I know they

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Speaker 1: rate speed and everything and throwing power and all these

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Speaker 1: different things. I get that. I don't know how Brady

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Speaker 1: Brady's the number one quarterback because Johnny he elevates the

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Speaker 1: play of his team. And that's why open saying you

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Speaker 1: put Aaron Rodgers on the twenty twenty Buccaneers. I don't

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Speaker 1: I'll use the Peyton Manning winning the Super Bowl in

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Speaker 1: the twenty fifteen season has evidence here. Peyton Manning not

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Speaker 1: what he was. He's on his last legs, the tank

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Speaker 1: victory for Lebron Because I know their defense is going

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Speaker 1: Manning checking into the right things. But I think he

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Speaker 1: elevates the play of the team. I think your defense

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Speaker 1: just happens that way. I believe in these things because

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Speaker 1: they elevate the whole culture of what's going on between

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Speaker 1: the lines, no matter who's out there. Special teams too,

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Speaker 1: I think all boats rise with that tide. And Brady

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Speaker 1: is the number one quarterback in the league now, Miles

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Speaker 1: is the number one quarterback in the second year group. Look,

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Speaker 1: he went two and nine as a starter, and I

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Speaker 1: think people are looking at that and holding it against him.

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Speaker 1: I get it. Quarterback rating as a starter, it's not everything.

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Speaker 1: We sometimes over inflate that stat, but it is a

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Speaker 1: factor when you're evaluating quarterbacks. However, with Mills, I do

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Speaker 1: the team was constructed, especially early on. He was thrust

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Speaker 1: but when he came back, he played better, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's what the maddened people should be looking at

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Speaker 1: where is he at right now? As we sit going

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Speaker 1: into year two. You're projecting on fields. You're definitely projecting

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Speaker 1: on Trey Lance if you put him ahead of Mills.

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with what they're doing, but hey, they're

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Speaker 1: getting us to talk about them and they're publicizing the game.

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Speaker 1: So hats off to the Madden folks. You mentioned some

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Speaker 1: of the media members that have discussed Mills and it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it hit a couple of nights ago. Wait, what's today, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had this to say some twitter. He put this

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Speaker 1: a few nights ago. The more I watched Davis Mills

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Speaker 1: you know, they're not messing with that system. They might

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Speaker 1: tweak here there, but they're not messing with that system.

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Speaker 1: You could get a nice year out of Mac Jones here.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting between the Patriots and

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. You know, everyone expects the Jets to jump

427
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Speaker 1: up so much, not so fast, say the Patriots. I

428
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: still think it's a Bill's division. But if I'm picking

429
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Speaker 1: between Mac Jones and Baker Mayfield, I'm probably taking Mayfield

430
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Speaker 1: because I just think Mayfield to find a way to

431
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Speaker 1: win the game. I just do the Jordan theory. I

432
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Speaker 1: think Jones I hate to call him system guy. And again,

433
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Speaker 1: I think the narrative on all these second year guys

434
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Speaker 1: is going to change because they're gonna show what they

435
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: are much more in year two, good or bad. And

436
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 1: maybe Mac Jones is that much better. But right now,

437
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Speaker 1: if you asked me that question. I'm taking the more

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Speaker 1: experienced guy in Baker Mayfield with a good shoulder, please

439
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Speaker 1: not an injured Justin Reid collision shoulder. Baker Mayfield has

440
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Speaker 1: the same rating as the next player I'm about to

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Speaker 1: ask you about. With the Philadelphiagles talent two weeks prepared

442
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Speaker 1: to win one massive ball game, are you taking either

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo or Jamis Winston Garoppolo. Garoppolo has been there,

444
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Speaker 1: Johnny Garoppolo has been to the postseason, He's advanced. I

445
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: know he's made mistakes, but I trust Again, it's the

446
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: trust factor. Now, Winston might just throw like crazy and

447
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you got a big lead and

448
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: you're winning the game. But then he might throw you

449
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Speaker 1: back out of that lead too. I don't trust him.

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Speaker 1: I don't trust Jamis either, But man, there's something about

451
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: Jamis that he's he's just it's so titillating. You watch

452
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: him and you think, there it is. Our game against

453
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 1: him in twenty nineteen was a perfect example. Four picks,

454
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Speaker 1: I mean two picks on his first two passes and

455
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 1: they're down seven nothing or actually ten nothingcase we got

456
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Speaker 1: a fuel goal on the second one, and then all

457
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,239
Speaker 1: of a sudden he started getting hot. Yeah, and then

458
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: we couldn't slow him down at the end of the

459
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: game when he needed to get hot again, we picked

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Speaker 1: him off twice. Nobody's saying he's not talented, maddening. I

461
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: trust Garoppolo more than Jamis Winston in a half to

462
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Speaker 1: win it situation. Okay, so let's go same question. I'll

463
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Speaker 1: mix a couple of these up now. All right, let's

464
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Speaker 1: take the Baker Mayfield Jimmy Garoppolo one Eagles similar talent

465
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: got the Philadelphiagles offensive talent when one game you got

466
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Speaker 1: two weeks to prepare, you got Baker Mayfield or Jimmy Garo.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think I'm picking. I think you picking

468
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Speaker 1: Jimmy because of trust. I'm picking Jimmy. You're picking Jimmy. Jimmy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go with Jimmy to may All right, let's go to

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Speaker 1: the one that you mentioned a little while ago, DaShan

471
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Speaker 1: or Lamar. That's a tough one. I still played here

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Speaker 1: Sean now that he's gone. Lamar, Yeah, that's my pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm just being honest here. Okay, let's put this. You

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Speaker 1: know what, and I've said this before. Lamar Jackson to me,

475
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Speaker 1: is kind of like Russell Westbrook when he was in

476
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. Yeah, and he's so entertaining. He's just jumping

477
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Speaker 1: out of the jam. That's Lamar Jackson. I love watching

478
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. He's totally entertaining. He's unpredictable. He can will

479
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: the team across the goal line in a variety of ways.

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00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: I love that about him. I think the Ravens have

481
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: a really difficult decision to make. By the way, now

482
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: that Murray's got the contract, you know what's going to happen, right,

483
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: It'll be two hundred and thirty one million dollars because

484
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: wasn't Murray just a half million more than Watson? Yes?

485
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Speaker 1: And then the question is what's the guarantee? The question,

486
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Speaker 1: and Jackson, much more than Murray, has a case to say,

487
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Speaker 1: I get all of it, I get two thirty one guaranteed,

488
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: give it up. And he hasn't to give three percent

489
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: to his agent or two percent or whatever they're giving

490
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: their agents. Now. He just handed to his mom at

491
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Speaker 1: that point. Yeah, here you go, mom, you're my agent.

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Speaker 1: Nice job Mark, and nice job Drew Doherty because he's

493
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Speaker 1: gonna join us next with where are they now with

494
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Speaker 1: former safety Quittin Damps right here in Texas All Axis.

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome back to this Friday issue of

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Speaker 1: Texas All Access. I'm John Harris. It's time to dive

497
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Speaker 1: in to our Where are they now? I promise you

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Speaker 1: a little Quintin Demps, former safety for your Houston Texans,

499
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: did it twice. Was here in twelve eleven twelve time frame,

500
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: came back in twenty fifteen, but it was twenty sixteen

501
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: when he set it off with interception after interception for

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Speaker 1: the number one ranked defense in the league. Here's Drew Doherty.

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Speaker 1: Where are they now? With Quintin Demps. Time to talk

504
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Speaker 1: now with one of my favorite Houston Texans of all time.

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Speaker 1: It is safety Quintin Demps. Quinton, how you been man? Good?

506
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Speaker 1: Are you coaching ball at a college? Man? At Trinity

507
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: International University. I'm the secondary coach and also the assistant

508
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: head coach. And this is my first spring. The last

509
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: semester was my first fall. It's my first spring, so yeah, man,

510
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: it's kind of what's going on with me right now.

511
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Speaker 1: So you're a ten year NFL veteran. You had two

512
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: stints with the Texans. A little bit in ten, and

513
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: then all of eleven, all of twelve, and then you

514
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: come back in fifteen sixteen. All together, you played fifty

515
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: games for Houston in the regular season. You started a

516
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: little over half of those, and uh, you quit. You

517
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: left the game. I think around seventeen eighteen. What have

518
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: you been doing? Eighteen eighteen? Okay, so how long before

519
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: you left the game, before you got into coaching? What

520
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: was the what was the I guess what spurred that

521
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: auto made that happen, you know, Man, like like many

522
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: of us, Man, I'll just be I'll be uh, I'll

523
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: be honest. Man. You know I had after eighteen, Man,

524
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: I hit I hit a you know, I had a

525
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: bad up. I had bad years, A few bad years. Man,

526
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: just trying to figure life out again. And Man, just

527
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: going through the spiral man of you know, the up

528
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: and down of just trying to find myself just the

529
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Speaker 1: realities of the game being over. Man's kind of it's

530
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: kind of hard, you know. Yeah, But uh, Man, things

531
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: have worked out. I've gotten better. Man, I've done some

532
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: some healing, um you know, some soul searching and um

533
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Speaker 1: so man, I would say twenty twenty one, Man, I

534
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: started this job here at um at Tiu man. Um.

535
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: But it's funny how I got the job because I

536
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: was just pursuing my masters. I was just trying to

537
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: go to school here because they have a seminary here

538
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: that I'm enrolled in and um, but I ended up, man,

539
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: m being a coach yet. Man. So it's just crazy

540
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: how things work out, man. But it took a while. Man.

541
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: It took about three years for me to really recover,

542
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: man and get back on my feet, man, just emotionally,

543
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: um at to retire. So your study you were in

544
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: the seminary are you Are you still in that program

545
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: or you Yeah, I'm currently in the masters program um

546
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: studying theology and mental health counseling. Oh that's wonderful. Yeah, yeah,

547
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: that's wonderful. You know, like the best coaches that I've

548
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: ever spoken with, you know, they've described their job not

549
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: as being coaches, but it's it's a ministry in and

550
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: of itself in its own way. I mean you're sounds

551
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: like you're getting to study one aspect and then live another,

552
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: right Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, man. Yeah, coaches, Like definitely, I'm

553
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: a voice for the guys, right, My voice, my mentor,

554
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: and it's my ministry too. Yeah, so it's a good

555
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: way to see it. Yeah. Do these guys understand or

556
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to they understand, but did they realize

557
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: what you've been through and what you experienced? Not too

558
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: many people can say they played ten years in the

559
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: NFL like you can. I mean, did they did they

560
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: grasp that? You know? I don't know. I don't know, man.

561
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: I think a few of them. I have one coach

562
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: who really who was grasped it too. But the players,

563
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure man, if they really

564
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: really understand it. I think it's still like you know,

565
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: it's still like an all at times, but they don't

566
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: really understand. Man, what it took man, How you know

567
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: how hard it was and um, the things that you

568
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: know that come with that, that ten years in the league. Man,

569
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Speaker 1: is that kind of refreshing for you when you do,

570
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: when you deal with people that don't know much about

571
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: you like that? Is that cool? Or is it? Yeah?

572
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's it has its perks, has its pros

573
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: and cons, you know, like anything, U you know, it's uh, yeah,

574
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: it's just it's just it's just a home. Yeah, I

575
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, man, I'm still trying to

576
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: figure that out. You know. So what what do you

577
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: what are what are some of the main principles when

578
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: you're coaching, because you're coaching defensive backs. I take it right, Yeah,

579
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: What are some of the main things that you focus

580
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: on and want these guys to do and and key

581
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: in on. Yeah, I see. I try to. I try

582
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: to keep it as simple as possible, you know. I

583
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: learned this from from Wade Phillips. Man, keep the game

584
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: simple as possible. I try to coach the fundamentals right leverage, eyes, discipline,

585
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: right leverage, right when your leverage, have discipline eyes, man,

586
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: and do it right. Do what she's supposed to do,

587
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: Do your job the right way, you know what I mean.

588
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't try to, like, you know,

589
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: teach some crazy philosophy. Man. I try to keep as

590
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: simple as possible for these guys. Man, the fundamentals, the

591
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: base fundamentals of the game. That's how you're gonna be successful.

592
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: That's a philosophy in itself, man, Because I think there's

593
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people that that over complicate things, don't

594
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: you eat Yeah, I do, I do. I've been around

595
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 1: a few all right, Well, let's rewind. Okay, you grew

596
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: up in San Antonio, you went to Roosevelt High School,

597
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: phenomenal player there. What leads you from Roosevelt High out

598
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: to UTEP. You played at UTL Paso in the early

599
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: arts or mid arts. Yeah, man, so I didn't have

600
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: I didn't have good grades. Oh, so like big schools

601
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: would come, like Big twelve. The whole Big twelve was

602
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: approved of me. They would come to the campus man

603
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: and see my grades and be like, oh, good luck,

604
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, good luck man, hopefully see you soon. So

605
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking, I'm going to junior college, right, gonna

606
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: kill gore. Um. However, man, UTEP, they came to the

607
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: school and they they kind of guided me through the

608
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: process and they said, man, you got to score a

609
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 1: certain amount on ACT and then we're able to get

610
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 1: a scholarship, you know. And so but they said if

611
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: I don't pass, if I don't score a certain school,

612
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: then they lose a scholarship. So it was almost like, okay, man,

613
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna do something for you, but do some of us, right.

614
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: We don't want to lose the scholarship waiting on you,

615
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: but we value so we're gonna wait for you and

616
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: so Utube was the only school man, the only dp

617
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: one that waited for me to see if I would

618
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: pass with with with a high enough school act man,

619
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: and I end up passing. So it was like a

620
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: no brand to go there. That's awesome. What was that

621
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: transition like, because e'll Passo is a different place. Yeah,

622
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: well the Passo on San Antonio are similar, I mean

623
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: in regards to the Hispanic culture, you know, but El

624
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: Passo Yeah, it's it's definitely. It was definitely something you know,

625
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: took some getting used to. It's not as fast, it's

626
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: not as vibrant as you know, a big city like

627
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: San Antonio, So you know, it took. It took a while.

628
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: I get used to it, man. But as I go

629
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: back now as an adult, man, I really appreciate the city.

630
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: I really do. Man. It's really a great city. Man.

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Speaker 1: People are amazing, you know. Man, So I really enjoy

632
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: all passo. Man, I hold a deer to my heart

633
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: for real. Yeah. You know, back in the day when

634
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: you were with the Texans, you and I talked a

635
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: little bit because I actually covered some of your games

636
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: that you played in. I didn't realize it, but I

637
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: was out and loved it covering the Red Raiders and

638
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: you guys in O six and in OH seven played

639
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: Texas Tech OH six. You almost beat them. You probably

640
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: should have beat them in overtime there in the Sun Bowl,

641
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: and it's it remains one of the best game experiences

642
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: I can ever recall. Is very unique because the Sun

643
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: Bowl was filled that night, and it's loud, and it

644
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: bounces off those rocks that they got right there. That

645
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: was a really cool time when you were there. You

646
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: had you and there are some other players. You are

647
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: a squad. Yeah, yeah, we had a We had a

648
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: good team. We had a couple of good years man

649
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: under Mike Price. Like you said, man, that's some bowl.

650
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: Be in the field, man, it's it's definitely an experience,

651
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: like for real, like being like a stadium inside the mountain.

652
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty cool man. Yeah. And basically on the

653
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: border of Mexico because when I was in the press box,

654
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: I looked at my phone and it said international Roaming.

655
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: So I mean, like I don't know if what the

656
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: cell phone towers were doing, but I guess I was

657
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: pining off something over across the border or something. Yeah,

658
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: because you see you can see no right there, you

659
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: sitting the you know, so yeah, go to the border

660
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah all right, So after you kept drafted

661
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: by the Eagles and you spend some time there, what

662
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: was your draft weekend experience? Like what happened? Yeah? Man,

663
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: it's funny because I ran a four or three in

664
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: the combine, right, and I just thought, I just knew

665
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: for sure I go, you know, at least second I

666
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: go on the first day, right, I thought I was,

667
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: of course, I'm hopeful first round, right, right, but at

668
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: least at the very least I was thinking second round,

669
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: all right, And um, at this time, it was two days.

670
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: It was like the first right, the first day of

671
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: second day. So um, the first first day, man, I'm

672
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: you know, get excited, preparing, and uh, I didn't hear

673
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: my name called. So I was mad. I was mad,

674
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: I was I stressed out. So I went out that

675
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: night and had a great time, had an amazing time.

676
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: Almost had too much of a two good of a time.

677
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: Look to the point where the next day I'm knocked out, man,

678
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: and he was blowing my phone up. But I'm sleep,

679
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: I'm hung over, like sleep. And so they finally called

680
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: my mom and she busted my room quite wake up

681
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: and so I get up. Man, I'm halfway live still. Yeah, Man,

682
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: go to the screen. You wanna see your name, Gonna

683
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: pick you, man. So that's kind of how my weekend went. Man.

684
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: It was an amazing moment and seeing my name coming

685
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: across the ticket offer real even though I was still

686
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: halfway you know, from Live from last night. Man. But

687
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: that's kind of how my my weekend went. That's that's

688
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: pretty interesting. Yeah, and you had some good years there.

689
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: Uh you wind up at the end of two thousand

690
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: and ten though with the Texans. How did that all happen?

691
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: And how much you know, what what what what went

692
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: down with that move to Houston. Yeah. So manum, my

693
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: first two years of Philly, Man, they were really really,

694
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: really strong. Well, my first year was strong to the

695
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 1: point where, like um, they had they had so much

696
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: confidence in me, um that they let Brian Dawkins go, right.

697
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: I was, I was the next guy to fulfill Brian Dawkins,

698
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: you know, his role on the team. I wrote, but

699
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: like you know, I was gonna be the start of

700
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: that year. Um, And so man, I was I was cocky, Drew.

701
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: I was so cocky man out, you know, I would

702
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: talk stuff to to the to the media and all

703
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and he Rea didn't like that stuff, right, Yeah,

704
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: so they did of letting me go, you know, just

705
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: because I was too much of a cancer or whatever.

706
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: And um, I didn't perform well too. So I got

707
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: cut probably my in my third year, my third year

708
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: there whenever when a rookie contract, and um, I set

709
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: out for like ten ten weeks, twelve weeks, man, I'm like,

710
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: what is this. You know, I didn't think I ever

711
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: get cut and set out twelve weeks and um yeah, man.

712
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: But then so just uh, as I'm sitting out, man,

713
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: Texans called me you know when it when it worked out, man,

714
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 1: Brian Gardner, which is you know, you're a good friend

715
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: of mine. He called me in man about me in

716
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: for a workout. And you know, Kobe Kubek was the

717
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: head coach at the time, and uh Frank uh I

718
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: forget his name, Frank bank Bush was the DC. Yeah

719
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: that's way back right, Yeah, yeah, man, that's how that's

720
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: how I happened. Man. They saw me the last four

721
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: games of the season. I ended up I end up

722
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: playing look at the special teams, and that's kind of

723
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: how I got to Houston. Yeah, Brian Gardner, really savvy

724
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: guy who we saw him at the combine. Passed him

725
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: in the halls and said what's up and talk to

726
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: him a few minutes. But that was an interesting time

727
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: that season. Coming into that season and ten, there were

728
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: high hopes for the Texans. They had just gone nine

729
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: and seven the year before, but the defense fell apart,

730
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: and the past defense in particular really struggled. But they

731
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: added guys like you. They added a guy like Jason Allen.

732
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: I think they're at the end. And then in the

733
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: off season they really turned things over. You were part

734
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: of eleven and twelve. Those were fun times around here. Yeah,

735
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 1: they were. That's when they signed J Joe and d Manning.

736
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah they sure, yeah, they sure did. Didn't didn't Wade

737
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: Fields come in at yet? Wade came in? Yeah, so yeah,

738
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: Bush and then were their let go. Wade came in,

739
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: switched it to a three four. Yeah, drafted J J. Watt,

740
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 1: drafted Um Brooks, red Connor, Barwin, got healthy, J Joe,

741
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: D man and then Kareem matured, Glover was moved to safety.

742
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: There was a lot of like moving parts to that,

743
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: and you're you're one of them. Oh Vance Joseph too,

744
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: Vance jose He was key, Yeah, he was key to

745
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: the back end. Man is he one of the clearest

746
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: communicators You've ever encountered as a coach, because he is.

747
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: He's the clearest creator, Kater I've ever seen. Man That

748
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: man is amazing coach, Like he communicates, he teaches Man. Man,

749
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: He's really He's probably one of the best tie be

750
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: coaches I've had. Man Him and Uh James last one

751
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 1: I had. Uh. I mean John John Butler. Oh John Butler.

752
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah he's in Buffalo. Yeah, I love John Deaf, you

753
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: know him, Advancement one of my favorite, two of my

754
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: favorite coaches of all time. That's cool. Yeah, yeah, Vance

755
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: was incredible. What was that like? Did you get a set?

756
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the first playoff team that the Texans

757
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: ever had in eleven and it was a wild season.

758
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: You lose shob t j Yates is the quarterback and everything.

759
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: What was that like for you, you you know, giving your

760
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: history and seeing what you what you saw, Yeah, Man,

761
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: just like being a part of that was It's amazing.

762
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: Like the whole turnaround because you can tell two or

763
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: some teams when you go to the place in the

764
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: locker room. It's just like a dark cloud over it.

765
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: But just to be a part of that man that

766
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: that rebirth Man of the Texas Man was man somebody

767
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: never forget, you know what I mean. Just it's man

768
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: making the playoffs, you know, a playoff game and Houston Man,

769
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: it was it was. It was cracking man. Yeah, and

770
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: then you wind up you wind up going elsewhere. You

771
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: kind of reunite with Andy Reid and the Chiefs and thirteen. Yeah,

772
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: how did that come about? Because you I don't did

773
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: you leave on kind of sour terms with him in Philadelphia? Um,

774
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say sour terms. Just like he knew I

775
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: had to mature him, got him, Yeah, and kind of

776
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: like he kind of you know, he knew I had

777
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: to be humble, you know. So I think him releasing

778
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: me that ye was way humbling me, you know what

779
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean. And again you're like, you know it's the

780
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: NFL man, like un was it. He was hoping I'm matured,

781
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: and so he's like, man, I'll give another shot, you know.

782
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: So he brought me in that year one year contract.

783
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: Man ended up having one of my best years as

784
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: a kick returning had all four years, keep returning that years,

785
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: which kind of you know, rebodlized my career. Honestly, you

786
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: know it did, man, it did so being bend of

787
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: the Dave told which who was the best for the

788
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: team coach Evan, Yeah, being under him, man really, uh yeah, Man,

789
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: we'll see my career for a few more years. And

790
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 1: so that was That's kind of how that came about.

791
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: The man I was on the street, um, and he

792
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: knew it was fast, and so he called me man

793
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: and reunited for sure. Third week or preseason twenty fifteen,

794
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: Quentin Damps comes in. We're number thirty two, and I thought,

795
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: all right, we'll see and that guy turned into one

796
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: of the better defensive players to the Texans the next

797
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: couple of years. All right, we're gonna take it around

798
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: the NFL and our final segment next right here in

799
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: Texas All Access Access Access, we go on fall segment

800
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Speaker 1: this Friday issue of Texans All Access. It's shorty here

801
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: to finish up, I'm John Harris, Football and Outsideline reporter,

802
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: your host going around the NFL, and it's all about

803
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: alternate helmet time. We know we've talked about the batter

804
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: red helmet to Texas are gonna be wearing November third,

805
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: and on the second day of practice July thirtieth, on

806
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: the back Saturday for the NFL, the Eagles unveiled a

807
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: black helmet. It looks kind of sharp. I gotta admit.

808
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: The Jets also unveiled a black helmet. Now the green

809
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: on the black helmet for the Jets, I don't know.

810
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: The Eagles, I think did it right. They just took

811
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: the green off all together and went black with the

812
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: white Eagles wings. I think it looks pretty sharp. I

813
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: think these alternate uniforms are gonna look absolutely brilliant. They're

814
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: gonna look awesome. The Sisady Bengals unveiled a white Bengal helmet.

815
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: They've teased this for about ten days now and they

816
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: finally put the helmet out and it looks pretty sharp.

817
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna wear those with the white pants, white jerseys

818
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: and go full on Stormtroopers. Wow wow, wow, wow. That's

819
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: going to look nice. A couple of Ravens placed on

820
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: the early training camp pup list, JK. Dobbins and Gus Edwards,

821
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: in addition to Pro Bowl tackle Ronnie Stanley. Ravens started

822
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: camp already and it will start for your Texans next Friday,

823
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: a week from today. Can't wait big thanks to Mark,

824
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: to Drew, to Quentin Demps, to my man Austin Mendez

825
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: and all of you for listen. We'll see you next time.

826
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Speaker 1: It has always go text