1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:00,800 Speaker 1: What's happened? 2 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 2: Everybody. 3 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Welcome into a Thursday edition of Texans All Access from 4 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Monday Texans Radio Studio. 5 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 2: I am John. 6 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: Harris Football All the Sideline reporter for your Houston Texans, 7 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: and I would tell you I'm enjoying my day off, 8 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: and I am I enjoy every day during training camp. 9 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: But it has been a busy, busy day. We did 10 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: a Texas training camp live in the morning and now 11 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: it's time for All Access. And when it's a Thursday night, 12 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: you know it's the General. Now, the General's been playing 13 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of hooky. He's been out a little bit, 14 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: but I want him to tell you about it. Where 15 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: did you go, General, where you've been in the past 16 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: few days. 17 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 3: Let me tell you about my trip to San Antonio 18 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: for the Texas High School Coaches Convention, in which there 19 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: were more than eighteen thousand high school coaches college coaches, 20 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 3: and there was a lot of talk about the Texans. 21 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: Everywhere I went on Sunday and Monday, coaches were talking 22 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: about the Texans college coaches, high school coaches, and the 23 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: Jaxons also did a very class thing. They sponsored what 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 3: I think is the neatest thing there on the first day, 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: they have a panel discussion with every division I head 26 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: coach in Texas. I think the thirteen of them. Texans 27 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: sponsored that. Craig Wave voiced Longhorns. He was the moderator 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 3: and it was very interesting and after it was over, 29 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: I went up and introduced myself to a few of 30 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: the coaches. I was there with a grid Iron Legends 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: of Texas and we were introduced by Rob Lanch representing 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: the Texans and the Texas Bowl and the grid Iron Legends, 33 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: and people are fired up. Nobody asked men thinking about 34 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: the Cowboys. And afterward they had a monster reception also 35 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: sponsored sponsored by the Texans. 36 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 4: That night the. 37 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: Dinner for the grid Iron Legends that Brenner's sponsored by 38 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: the Texans. And the next day Monday, in which I 39 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: was the moderator of a panel with Thankie Cheryl, Kenny Euston, 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: Wade Phillips, Michael Bishop, and two longtime high school coaches 41 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: and administrators, Keith Kilgore and Dick Olin, And we talked 42 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: to the coaches, high school coaches about their experience when 43 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 3: all of them played compared the way it is today, 44 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: especially with nil and schools coming to pay the players 45 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 3: in high school before they ever get around to come 46 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: into college and parents, you know, how do you navigate 47 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: the current environment. And it was very interesting. And so 48 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 3: the Texan's got a lot of love at Texas High 49 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: School Coaches Association convention. And it was very interesting hearing 50 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: people ask about Stroud, asked things about I was surprised, 51 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: asked bunch of things about Joe Mixon and where they 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: going to run the ball more and how where they're 53 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 3: gonna get the ball and keep all the receivers at 54 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 3: the especially Stefan Diggs when I'm writing my second column 55 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: this week about And so it was fun, it was interesting. 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: And then on Monday, I went to the Texas Sports 57 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame and I was the moderator for the 58 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: Lone Star Lunch and fundraiser for the Hall of Fame, 59 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: and I interviewed for an hour mean Joe Green. Most 60 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 3: people think Jose's middle name Joe's not even his real name. 61 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: Those people don't know that. They think his name's Joseph. 62 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: And it was given to him when he was five 63 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: years old by an ad who thought he looked like 64 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: heavyweight boxing champion Joe Lewis. Had just stuck all those 65 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: years and you talk about an interesting guy. I knew 66 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: a lot about Joe Green. But when you have a 67 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: guy for an hour, a captive audience boy, you get 68 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: into a lot of things. And one of the things 69 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: Kenny Houston and Joe are brothers in law. Kenny grew 70 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: up and Lufkin Joe grew up in Temple. Both played 71 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: in segregation. Some of the stories they talked about playing 72 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: in the Preview Enter Scholastic League before before of integration, 73 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: and imagine if players had to do this today in 74 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: high school and there were a lot of high school 75 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: players there. Joe at Temple Dunbar never had a pregame 76 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: or halftime with a roofover was at the white stadiums 77 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: they played in wouldn't let him use locker rooms, so 78 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: they did their pregame and their halftime outside, usually in 79 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 3: the end zone, and if it was raining, he just 80 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: sat there and listen to the coach go over what 81 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: he wanted to go over in the rain. And when 82 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: Joe got to North Texas first day he was there, 83 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 3: he looked up and goes, wow, this is something you 84 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: got a roof over your head. And trainer reached down 85 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 3: and told him get up on this bench and reached 86 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: down grabbed his ankle and he said, what are you doing? 87 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: He said, I'm gonna tape your ankles. Whine. Well, that's 88 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,119 Speaker 3: what you do with whine, he told him. He goes, wow, 89 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 3: I've never had my ankle's taped. And then when't they 90 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: started practicing, somebody came up and gave him water and 91 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: he said, what's this? Water really took a drake. Boy, 92 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: this is great. I've never had water during the practice 93 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: or game. And then when Kenny was at Lufkin, when 94 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: they would go to some other cities, the white owners 95 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 3: of restrooms like gas stations wouldn't let them use them, 96 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: so a lot of times buss just had to pull 97 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: over in the field. So those things they didn't know 98 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: what they had then. And I hope high school of 99 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: players today will learn about the PVL. It's based here. 100 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: Robert Brown's the president, learned about what a lot of 101 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: Hall of famers and a lot of sports and not 102 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: just Pro Football Hall of Fame went through before integration. 103 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: It was a tremendous week. I played hooky from three 104 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: days of a training camp. I'll be back tomorrow, but 105 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: it was worth it. 106 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, playing hookies, Okay, John, it's cool what you've seen 107 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: thus far out at practice, what you've seen thus far. 108 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: And I know you've been going for a little bit, 109 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: but Mark and I talked about this last night. You know, 110 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: what's what's impressed you, what's really kind of stood out 111 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: to you, even you know, practices you saw without pads, 112 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: what's kind of been the standout thing for you thus far? 113 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: Well, I can say this when I'm not at practice. 114 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: It's like being at practice. When I go on Houston 115 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: Texans dot com and read Harris hits, well, you can 116 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: tell me everything I need to know that happened and 117 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: I saved I saved your hairs hits. I read them 118 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 3: every day. You know, we all we all want to 119 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 3: watch the passing game and the thing we want to 120 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: know about the running game. I think because Joe Mixon's 121 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty five or twenty eight pounds, much 122 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 3: bigger than Devin's Singletarry's bigger than Damian Pierce, they want 123 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: a weapon when they get down and close the goal line, 124 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: they can run it in. That was something they didn't 125 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: have last year. Somebody could score when they got inside 126 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: the five and they had to throw the ball more 127 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: than they want. But then Damien Pierce, if he's going 128 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: to pick up Bobby's Luck's zone scheme in which he's 129 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 3: got to be more patient, get the ball, go sideways 130 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 3: playing his foot and boom, take off, find the whole 131 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: lineman trying to make that they make that initial block 132 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: and they want to get out on the second level. 133 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: Can't wait to see him, and I'm guessing he's going 134 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: to get some playing time against the Bears. Can't seem 135 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: just get two three four carries. But the most important 136 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: position to be on offense and not the wide receiver's 137 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: tight ends, is left guard Kenyan Green. Kenyan's getting a 138 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: lot of love from his teammates and his coaches about 139 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: how hard he worked last last year when he set 140 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: out the season, He's re distributed his body, weighs three 141 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: point fifteen and neck. Cassario used a high number one 142 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: pick amid a number one pick on him, and he 143 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: wants to reward the faith that Cassio showed in him. 144 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: And this's his chance to do it. And I'm guessing 145 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: he's going to get plenty of time when they go 146 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: against the Bears. So I'm watching him on offense defense, 147 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: always watching the tackles because you know, we asked him 148 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: about it. We asked Matt Burke about it, We've asked 149 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: Cassario Dimiko. They won't commit a course, and it's hard 150 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: to see who are the two guys they're gonna stand 151 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: out like the last two guys MALIEK. Collins and Sheldon 152 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: Rankins to clearly be the starters. That's the most interesting 153 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: in the secondary course, watching Kamari Lassiter in all those 154 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: new cornerbacks that Nick Casio signed his free agents all veterans. 155 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: To me, if if Jeffrey Okuda, a third overall pick 156 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: at his draft, could stay healthy and player play just 157 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: close to where he was supposed to be with the 158 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 3: Lions when he was drafted third overall, same as Derek Stingley. 159 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: No corner has ever been drafted high er What a 160 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 3: god send he would be. I think Kamari Laster is 161 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: gonna end up starting out side because that kid is good. 162 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: And they keep talking about Bullock and I saw some 163 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: I can't remember who it was, speculation and speculating that 164 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: they would sign free agent Justin Simmons, and maybe they will, 165 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: but the way they talk about Bullock and wanted to 166 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: see him, how much ground he's going to cover. How 167 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: he hits, you know, how he covers receivers. He and 168 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: Petrie obviously are the safeties of the future. And one 169 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: more thing about the coaching school. Joey MacGuire, head coach 170 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: in Texas Tech, who was at Baylor for a long time, 171 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 3: he did he did an interview. In one of his interviews, 172 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 3: he said Jalen Petree should have a statue outside McLean 173 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: Stadium and on the Baylor campus. And of course he 174 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: went in detail why he thought Petree deserved one. And 175 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: I've got to ask Jalen about that after practice on Friday, 176 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: because I know, knowing the kind of kid he is, 177 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: he'll be very home. 178 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 5: Wow, statue would be nice for jailing in Waco. Let's 179 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 5: see if that happens. John McLean joining US General. As 180 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 5: you know, there was a fight on Wednesday of practice 181 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 5: whatever you want to call it, skirmish fight. Somebody pushed somebody. 182 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 5: There was a lot more than that. It went on 183 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 5: for a while. But you tell me historically, reflect if 184 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 5: you can some fights you've seen in practice, training camp, 185 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 5: time of year over the years, does anything stand out 186 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 5: to you. We were talking about the one in Richmond, 187 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 5: with the Washington franchise at the time in twenty fifteen, 188 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 5: and Hard Knocks was there, but not just Texans. Maybe 189 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 5: go back to the Oilers or other stuff you've seen 190 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 5: as you've covered the league at large. 191 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: Well, I liked the one in Richmond because it it 192 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: ended the joint practice early. I think it is the 193 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: last day and so they just killed it. Remember when 194 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 3: they were in New Orleans one time and joint practice 195 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: and Greg Williams was a defensive coordinator of the Saints 196 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 3: and they had all kinds of practice. It was so 197 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: hot at Metory where their facility is, and they were 198 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: over zealous, the Saints were, and the Texans gave it 199 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: back to him, and I thought that was great. But 200 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: I'll tell you I've never seen anything like this. When 201 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: Buddy Ryan was a defensive coordinator of the Oilers in 202 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety three, the last great team they had, Buddy 203 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: came in here and he thought players needed to be 204 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: toughened up, and he went after Lamar Lathan, their number 205 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: one pick at ninety from University Houston. And Lamar was 206 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: a good player, but he busted him down to like fourteen. 207 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: He was a start fourteen because he wanted him to 208 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: fight his way back up, and he and Joe Bowden, 209 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: another linebacker, used to get and fight in practice in 210 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: shorts and shirts while they were lining up to take reps, 211 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 3: and the coaches just loved it. And because Jack Bardi 212 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 3: was an old tough guy from Texas, A and M 213 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: and Buddy of course thought he was the ultimate tough 214 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 3: guy and they they got into it. And at training 215 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 3: camp that year, Kevin Donnelly is starting guard who still 216 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 3: believe his on the Panthers broadcast team and Lamar Lathan 217 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: got in a fight on the field and it was 218 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: helmet swinging and everything else. And then when they got 219 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: into the weight room. I didn't see it, but I 220 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: was told about it, and I wrote about it and 221 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: broadcast about it on talk show. They got they continued 222 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: it inside and were throwing barbells and dumbbells at each 223 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: other till it was broken up. And then one other 224 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: this was at the Oilers old facility over close to 225 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 3: the Astrodome off Holly Hall, in which the offensive line 226 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: meeting room one day and they weren't there were a 227 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: lot of big linemen, but there wasn't and those rooms 228 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: were terrible because the facility was terrible. So he had 229 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: Bruce Matthew, Mike Munchak, two members of the Hall of 230 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: Fame stuffed into this basically closet to have those and 231 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: two players Stan Thomas from the University of Texas guard 232 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 3: and his Sean Elmos Tube. He couldn't use his nickname 233 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 3: anymore at the time. It was the terrorist and Elmos 234 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: Tube and stan Thomas got in a fight and when 235 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: stan Thomas came out of there, he was blood all 236 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 3: over it. And I've talked to Mutchak and Matthews about it, 237 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: and it was hard to get out of the way 238 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: because it just wasn't room. But after that, nobody wanted 239 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 3: to test. He shouted Melmos Tube. 240 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: General asked this question of Mark yesterday and this morning 241 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: and Andre where we talked about. You'll hear his answer 242 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: a little bit later. 243 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: But we know CJ. 244 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: Strave gotta have him for seventeen games. Had it for 245 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: fifteen last year, we didn't for seventeen this year. There's 246 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: no question he would be the guy to be the 247 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: answer to this question. But offense and defense on either side, 248 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: what player has to play sixteen or seventeen games this year? 249 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: The Texans are going to go even further than they 250 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: did last year, beyond a divisional playoff round. What player 251 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: has to play sixteen or seventeen games to feel good 252 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: about it? Just can't miss which guy is on each 253 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: side of the ball. 254 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: I would say Laramie Tonsil at left tackle, because you 255 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: can miss receivers because you got so many good ones. 256 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: If Joe Mixon messes, you got Damian Pierce, and one 257 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: of those young guys may stand out. They know Mixon's 258 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 3: not hurt bad and the signing Moss makes you wonder 259 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: about his injury. But I think in any of those 260 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: other linemen, you know, Laramie Tunsil is the best player 261 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: on the offensive line. He's the leader of the offensive line, 262 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: and they wanted to beat Pittsburgh without him last year. 263 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: But they Laramie to stay healthy to anchor that line 264 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: because it's been a while. Titus Howard needs to stay healthy. 265 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 3: But I'm saying Tonsel, you know, if they lost Dalton Schultz, 266 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: they got other tight ends. One of the things Nick 267 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: Serio's done that we don't talk about enough, I don't 268 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: think is he's got depth. At one point they didn't 269 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: have starters, and then when they got some starters they 270 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: didn't have good depth. Now he's got good depth, and 271 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: it's always going to be a revolving door bringing in 272 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: more players in there because that's the way he operates, 273 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 3: That's the way they operated in New England. They need 274 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: to keep churning the bottom of the roster to help 275 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: the others stay on their toes in front of them. 276 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: And on defense, you know it's got I would say 277 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: because they have three ends and Will Anderson junior, Daniel Hunter, 278 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: Denico Autry who I think will move inside and passing 279 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: situations and linebackers, Yes, they're important, but I would say 280 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 3: Derek's or who has not been able to stay healthy 281 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: since his freshman year at college, when he's the best 282 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: cornerback in college football, and he gave everybody a taste 283 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 3: of what he can do last year when he was 284 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: phenomenal when he was healthy. I think because he's the 285 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 3: big play defensive back, the highest rated, the most talented. 286 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: If he stays on the field, he's going to be 287 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: an All Pro and he'll make the Pro Bowl. But 288 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: I just think he is vital to what they want 289 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: to do in the secondary. Who did John Saite. 290 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 5: I said, Derek Stingley Junior on defense and Joe Mixon 291 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 5: on offense. 292 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I said Larmie Tunsel. And because everybody was 293 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: saying Derek Stingley Junior, which you know he's got to 294 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: be staying. I just think Will Anderson provides the the 295 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: ELpH iness if you will, to the defense. They've got leaders, 296 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: there's no doubt. They've got Jimmy Ward and they've got 297 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: his zzel Shire. They've got leaders. But there's something about 298 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: Will John that just I think him on the field 299 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: makes you feel some kind of way like he's you know, 300 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: he's the one that's going to kick down the door 301 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: and start taking people out, letting everybody else have an 302 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: easier job. And I just kind of feel like you've 303 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: got to have that, uh throughout the year. And I 304 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: think that's what Will provides. So that's why I went 305 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: with Will. But I would probably say it'd say stinging Laramie, 306 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: But I think Will just provides a little different, like 307 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: I said, Alphinus for this team, but if they. 308 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: Lose, if they were to lose him, they still have 309 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 3: Autrey and true true, that's why I said Stanley because 310 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 3: if they lose Stanley, now they played without Stingley for 311 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 3: the last two years and last year they still won. 312 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: And of course Will's gonna jump up there and be 313 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 3: a perennial double digit guy when he comes to the Saxon. 314 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 3: He already plays the run really well. That's their top 315 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: heavy and end and that's why I think is just 316 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: so interesting when they start playing. And I can't wait 317 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 3: to see when they have the joint practice with the Rams, 318 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: how the defensive tackles do when they're trying to run. 319 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: What I'm wondering right now, and this will be determined 320 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 3: in the preseason. But if indeed they move Autry inside, 321 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: Matt Burke doesn't want to give away any secrets, but 322 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: common sense tells you that's what's going to happen because 323 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 3: he's done it before. And it's amazing to me when 324 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: to meet Denigo Autry hit thirty, he became better at 325 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: any time in his career, and he's averaged nine sacks 326 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 3: since he became thirty in at a career high eleven 327 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: and a half last year. So if they have Hunter 328 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: Anderson and Denigo Autrey inside, who is going to be 329 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: the other inside pass rusher and John I'll ask you 330 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 3: this right now, who do you think, who do you 331 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 3: think it will be? Could be? Who do you think 332 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: the leading can is going to be? Not based on 333 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: what we've seen so far, but based on what is projected. 334 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: I think it might be Rio Mario Edwards Junior. I 335 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: think he could. He's got It's funny because when he 336 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: got into the league, he was kind of the same 337 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: size as Autrey. 338 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: He was like six three to eighty. 339 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 1: Kind of you know, in between or a tweenery guy 340 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: could play outside, guy could play inside. But he's added weight. 341 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: I looked at him the other day and I was like, 342 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: he's not too eighty. He's He's definitely in the two 343 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: ninety range, maybe on up to three bills, and he 344 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: has been a little bit of a problem, uh for 345 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: the guys up front. I think Mario Edwards can end 346 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: up being that guy. But I think you're gonna see 347 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: all kinds of combinations, John. I think the combination that 348 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: we saw the other day at practice was was fantastic, 349 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: and that was daneil Hunter with it was three guys down. 350 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: It was deal Hunter, Deniko Autry, and Will Anderson and 351 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: then they stood up Jerry Hughes and so he's kind 352 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: of like a stand up linebacker, but he was the 353 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: fourth guy rushing, So you got a lot of different combinations. Now, 354 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: if it's a you know, a third and six, third 355 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: and seven, and there's still the thought of you know, 356 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: maybe a draw or you know, your third four, third 357 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: and five, you put Rio on the field, Mario Edwards Junior, 358 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: and I think he could end up playing the run 359 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: and help you in that way. And you could still 360 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: put Autrey next to him and have Will and the 361 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: kneel on the outside. So to your point, I think 362 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: it's the depth, especially a defensive end, that allows you 363 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: to just run groups of ass rushers out there, especially 364 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: in a two minute situation, if there's an incomplete pass 365 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: or there's a substitution, you could take the tire guys 366 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: off the field, run three or four more guys out there, 367 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: and you're just as good at that point. 368 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 5: Well, one week from tonight, we'll be in Cantada, Ohio, 369 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 5: the first of twenty one broadcasts for US twenty one 370 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 5: games for the Houston Texans. Obviously for preseason games, general 371 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 5: eighteen games. That story came up again this week. Big 372 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 5: What is your prediction for when, not if, but when 373 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 5: it happens? 374 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, we all know it's coming. It's eighteen. It's going 375 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: to be just what the owners need, more money because 376 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 3: they're also desperate. But it'll mean more for the players too, 377 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: because salary cap will go up, but the players will 378 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 3: finago getting more time off. It's funny how that's a 379 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 3: big negotiating tool for them rather than getting more money 380 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 3: and better benefits. I've never understood that. But maybe this 381 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: idea that's being floated by the union about reporting to 382 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: training camp earlier, not having OTAs, maybe working in a 383 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: mini camp. But boy, the rookies would be so far 384 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: behind when they reported for training camp. Plus giving a 385 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 3: lot of players that much time off, they might gain 386 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: weight because they go them to see grandma and she 387 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: thinks they're undernourished in the game fifteen pounds. So that's 388 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 3: something to be worked out, and I don't think they 389 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: can do it next season. I would say more in 390 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: line for twenty twenty six, but it could be because 391 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: when money's on the line, and you know, if you 392 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: give that extra game and you open up the bidding 393 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 3: to everybody, especially the streaming services, hotelling, how much more 394 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: money they're going to get, you know, last week or 395 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 3: the things the week before they got every owner got 396 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 3: a check or four or two million, and that was 397 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: before they sold the ticket, sold the bear parking, local 398 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: TV radio, any income they could get, and so the players, 399 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 3: you think about what the cap was, and you look 400 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 3: at the Packers and they're kind of middle. 401 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 4: Of the road. 402 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: Everybody using them as an example because they're publicly owned 403 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: and they have to make it. They cleared ninety eight 404 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: million dollars, and so I'm thinking, man, if they're middle 405 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: of the road, wasn't the World of the Cowboys bringing 406 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: in So it's gonna be a lot of fun watching it, 407 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: but it's inevitable, and you know, we'd be embarrassed at 408 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 3: that point. Have eighteen games and talking about a thousand 409 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: yards is a big deal for a running back. 410 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: General twenty twenty three draft class for the Texans, I 411 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: think the first five or six draft picks other than 412 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: Dylan who ended up being struck down by leukemia, they 413 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: all started a game and they all contributed in some 414 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: ways heavy hut. The only way I really didn't was 415 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: Brandon Hill because he was hurt early in camp. 416 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: So fast forward to twenty twenty four. You mentioned him earlier. 417 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: Kamari Lassner it's also Blake Fisher. You mentioned Kaylen Bullock 418 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: as well. The expectations were pretty high for that group. 419 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: They had to contribute. 420 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 4: You had to. 421 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: Get starts and impact plays and games from the rookie 422 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: class last year. What are your expectations for the rookie 423 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: class in twenty twenty four? Guys that weren't drafted till 424 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: the second round, They didn't have a first round pick 425 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: that was obviously traded in some way, shape or form 426 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: that ended up with Stefon Diggs. What are your expectations 427 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: for this rookie class this year? 428 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 3: For Gamari Lastner to be a Day one starter, either 429 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 3: on the outside or inside. I'm guessing it's going to 430 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: be on the outside unless so Kuda or CJ. Henderson 431 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 3: step up with their third team and in place, say 432 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: the way Sheldon Rankins played last year when he came 433 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: in as a free agent on a one year deal, 434 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 3: and then you're looking for depth. Is there at that 435 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: point they don't have to have it anymore. I don't 436 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 3: think this draft's gonna have the No, it's not gonna 437 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 3: have the impact last year because they had two pigs 438 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: second third. They'll never beat that one and Dimiko's draft 439 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 3: in six to get Mario Williams and jamac o'ryans right 440 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: off the bat and Eric Winston in the third round, 441 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: Charles Spencer was entrenched. One of the worst said sob 442 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: stories in Texan's history was Charles Spencer anchoring left tackle 443 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 3: and boom, he breaks his legs so bad he was 444 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: never the same. But that was the best draft to 445 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 3: last year. This year, they just need to compete in 446 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: backup brawls and then when they get a chance to 447 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 3: play because of the injuries, take advantage of it. 448 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 5: All right, general, how good is the AFC South versus 449 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 5: the other three divisions in the AFC? Rate it for us? 450 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 5: Because I look at the West. Of course they have 451 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 5: the Chiefs, but who knows about the other three? I 452 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 5: know the Chargers have Harbaugh. Now, okay, congratulations that North 453 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 5: looks really good. 454 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts overall? 455 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 5: Where does the AFC South rank among the AFC divisions? 456 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: Well, THEFC North is the best division. They SC East 457 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: has got three playoff contenders, and then there's the Patriots. 458 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: And the AFC South has three playoff contenders, three teams 459 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: that had winning records last year and was separated by 460 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 3: one game. Fortunately for the Texans they won that last 461 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: game and then of course they won the wild card game. 462 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: In the West, I'm not high on the West other 463 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: than the Chiefs, you know, because the Chiefs are there, 464 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 3: you can't say that the South is better than them. 465 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 3: Rball may turn around the Chargers immediately. Raiders they don't 466 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: have a quarterback, and I'm just I'm just not high 467 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: on that division. But the thing about if you'd ask 468 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: this question going into the last season, everybody say, clearly 469 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 3: the AMC South and NFC South are the worst divisions 470 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: in football. Right now, THEFC South is distance itself from 471 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: the NFC South. I believe now that could change in 472 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: as a much better division. It's still kind of amazing 473 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 3: when you think about the Texans amazing season and they 474 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 3: still lost on the road to Atlanta and Carolina on 475 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: field goals with no time left. 476 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 5: All right, Chavil, what do you have working on the 477 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 5: website Houston Texans dot com. 478 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 3: I have a story that will be up tonight or 479 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: in the morning about Stroud. I was listening to all 480 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 3: the players since really since offseason and coaches about Stroud's leadership. 481 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 3: What does that mean exactly? Why is it important? How 482 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 3: can it help the things that they're seeing with him 483 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 3: be more comfortable this season and being a strong leader. 484 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 3: And then I'm gonna have one other thing that I've 485 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: been really interested in is listening to players and coaches 486 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: talk about Stefan Diggs. Since the time he got here, 487 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: they've been saying great things about him. You know, we 488 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 3: knew he's a great receiver because he's proven that time 489 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 3: and again. But the things he's doing away from the ball, 490 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 3: when he's running routes, when he's blogging, when he's advising 491 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 3: other receivers, and he is shot a guy who needed 492 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: a change of adress and he's flourishing. And so my 493 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 3: next one after that will be about Diggs. 494 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: We can't wait for that. General, that's gonna be absolutely awesome. 495 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: Glad you're back from San Antonio. But I know, coaching 496 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: school that is a really cool event for many levels 497 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: of coaches and individuals just in that football or sports 498 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: realm at the school spot. I mean, that's very very cool. 499 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad General got to do that. And then of 500 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: course the Texas Hall of Fame as well. Now a 501 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: guy that is in the Texas Hall of Fame is 502 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: Andre Ware. He joined Mark and I this morning. We 503 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: had some great stuff with him. We'll do that next 504 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: right here in Texas All Access. What's up, everybody, Welcome 505 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: back this Thursday edition of Texans All Access. John Hare 506 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: football and on a sideline reporter for your Houston Texans, 507 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: and it's time to catch up with our pal Andre Ware. 508 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: And obviously with a game a week from tonight, Oh 509 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: my gosh, a week from tonight. The Hall of Fame 510 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: discussion popped up as we talked about Andre Johnson and 511 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: Mark wanted to know right off the bat, was there 512 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: ever any doubt that Andre was gonna get in? And 513 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: how happy was Andre Ware for Andre Johnson to get 514 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: into the Hall? 515 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: Was there ever any doubt? 516 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 5: I mean to me, there was no doubt, But I 517 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 5: just didn't like it that he even had to wait 518 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 5: this long to get in. But now that he's getting in, 519 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 5: I'm so happy. 520 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, at the end of the day, I'm sure he's 521 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 6: gonna tell you it doesn't matter how long, just the 522 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 6: fact that it happened. Uh, it couldn't happen to a 523 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 6: better person. I will tell you. I'll let you guys 524 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 6: in on a little secret. I don't know because players 525 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 6: come and go so much, they're traded. 526 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 4: They're here one day, they leave, they may come back, 527 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 4: that you don't really get real close with him. 528 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 6: He's big because of who he is and the type 529 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 6: of individual he is that I've kind of embraced Andre 530 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 6: Johnson from the time he got here. I've gotten to 531 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 6: know his mother, his family. Uh. He is a number 532 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 6: one uh in my book in terms of a person 533 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 6: from top to bottom, A complete guy that you just 534 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 6: want to be around, and you don't mind your kids 535 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 6: being around him, and this, that and the other. He's 536 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 6: just he's solid and not only between the lines, but 537 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 6: even more so outside the lines. 538 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: Okay, Dre, for every team that Andre Johnson played on 539 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: here with the Texans, we always knew he was the 540 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: number one receiver. 541 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: It was no doubt Dre's the number one. Okay, So 542 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: this question is actually for both of you. 543 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: Who is the Texans number one wide receiver in twenty 544 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: twenty four? 545 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: Oh, Dre, you want to go first. 546 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 6: Man, That's a that's a that's a tough question, Johnny, 547 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 6: because the because of the type of season that Nico. 548 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: Collins had last year. 549 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 6: But I would say Digs going in because of how 550 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 6: he's being utilized in camp. He's been inside, he's been outside. Uh, 551 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 6: those types of the number ones usually get moved around. 552 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 6: He's playing almost like a Ceedee Lamb type role. This 553 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 6: this this camp where they're moving him around, showing him 554 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 6: a lot of stuff, creating a lot of different opportunities 555 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 6: for him going into the season. 556 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 4: And he's engaged. I mean, he. 557 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 6: Has asserted himself as one of the leaders on this 558 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 6: team already. They respect him because of what he's put 559 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 6: up in the past and places that he's been. 560 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 3: Uh. 561 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 6: I would say I would lean that way, but man, 562 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 6: there's the close second and then you get to you know, 563 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 6: the speedy guy that's back, the electric guy that's back 564 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 6: in the building. 565 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 4: He's healthy in tank dell. Uh, he's not very far behind. 566 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 6: So when you get in that huddle and you're looking 567 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 6: at that you know, those those eyeballs, Uh, you gotta 568 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 6: If I'm CJ. Stroud, I got a whole lot of 569 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 6: confidence that one of them is gonna get open for me. 570 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: Okay, before you answer, Mark, so i'mna ask you this. 571 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: I'm a this. 572 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, So here's my next question of the big three. 573 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: And maybe it's not the Big three, but I would 574 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: imagine the big three, which one, if you're an opposing 575 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, scares you the most, if you're going to prepare, 576 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: If you're the Colts and Gus Bradley's still there, I 577 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: hope so I can't remember if I think he's still there. Yeah, 578 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: if you're Gus Bradley and you're sitting there and you're like, 579 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: you know, you got the Texans in six and a 580 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: half weeks and you've got to prepare, and you're looking 581 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: at it going, man, the last time we saw these jokers, 582 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: that number twelve had nine catches for one hundred and 583 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: ninety two yards and a tuddy and blew the game 584 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: off on the first play. 585 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: I would think I. 586 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: Would think he's the no. I think he scares me 587 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: the most. But we didn't even face the other two guys. 588 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: If you're preparing for the Texans, which of the three 589 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: scares you the most? 590 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 5: I'll give you my answer right now, and that would 591 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 5: be this is a qualified answer, Tank Dell in that 592 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 5: the unpredictability and the ability to make the DB's head 593 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 5: spin around as he runs in the secondary. Because the 594 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 5: other two guys are great and they're gonna scary as 595 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 5: well Dre. But with Dell, it just stretches the field 596 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 5: so much, so many different things can happen. It gives 597 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 5: CJ so many different options. 598 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? 599 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, but I might go Nico because of 600 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 6: what he did to him last time and those that 601 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 6: stat line that Johnny's just just ripped off man. That 602 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 6: that's a that's tough to ignore. And he is such 603 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 6: a force after the catch. Now Tank, Now Tank's gonna 604 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 6: pull a lot of coverage away from those those two. 605 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 6: He's gonna he's gonna have uh moments or games where 606 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 6: he is the guy. 607 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 4: And I think that's where that that's. 608 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 7: The big chore for for Bobby Slowick is is keeping 609 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 7: all three guys relatively happy because they're gonna want their moments, 610 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 7: and you know how receivers are at times. 611 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 4: They've got to take a team first approach to this. 612 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 4: And we don't care who's getting the ball. 613 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 6: As long as we're winning and we're stacking w's and 614 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 6: we're advancing in the playoffs, it doesn't matter. 615 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 4: Who's putting up what types of numbers. 616 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 6: Everybody's gonna benefit, including guys up front, Mixon or whomever's 617 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 6: carrying the ball behind you and then the defense as well, 618 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 6: because at the end of the day, it all spills 619 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 6: w But I would think Nico because of what he 620 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 6: did to him last year. 621 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm gonna say this, they're Fleetwood Mac, Nico 622 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 5: Collins is Stevie Nicks, Stefan Diggs is Christy mcvee, and 623 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 5: Tag dellas Lindsey Buckingham. 624 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: That's what I'm going. 625 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 5: With, all right, And if you know the band and 626 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 5: know their hits, that'll make sense, because I do think 627 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 5: Nico is a guy that he's gonna look for a 628 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 5: lot for bread and butter, and then the bread gets 629 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 5: buttered with jam and extra stuff with the yak. I 630 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 5: like what I said about Dell is there because I 631 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 5: just think CJ. Remember when MTV had their basketball game 632 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 5: and they had a ten point shot. 633 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, remember that, like a half quarter or something. 634 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Tank dellas CJ's ten point shot, and 635 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 5: he looks for him. 636 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: He wants to go for the big gash. 637 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 6: You can go, you can go rock and roll. I'm 638 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 6: going wrap in a low group here. The ghetto boys 639 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 6: got Willie. 640 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 4: D and then uh. 641 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 6: Bushwick Bill and obviously Scarface. So a lot of Houstonians 642 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 6: will recognize those three names. 643 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: I was gonna go run DMC where Diggs was right, 644 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: Nico was d MAC, and then Tank ends up being 645 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: jam Master J because back in the day it used 646 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: to be about the guy spinning as opposed to the mcs, 647 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: and so I kind of feel like that's I don't know, 648 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: we all went with different music groups. 649 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 5: It's hard to believe I went for the oldest one. 650 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: Hard hard to fathom that. 651 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, mine's a little dated too, but me more so. 652 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 6: But I knew that a lot of Houstonians that are 653 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 6: listening this. 654 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 4: Morning would would know exactly who they are. 655 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: And d is huge on scarface. Okay, he thinks he's 656 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 2: the best. 657 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 6: Pa my guy, I text, I texted our face all 658 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 6: the time. Came out, played in the golf tournament this 659 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 6: this past April. 660 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 4: He is that that is my guy. 661 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: I like that. 662 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 5: I like that Drake all right, So what are you 663 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 5: seeing out there? Dimiko talks iron sharpens iron. What are 664 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 5: you seeing when you look at the Texans facing the 665 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 5: Texans at camp? 666 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 4: It's definitely being sharpened, that's for sure. 667 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 6: I was blown away at just how big this team 668 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 6: looks from from just one year ago. They've got lengths 669 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 6: on the defensive line that's gonna be that's gonna create 670 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 6: havoc for quarterbacks to to see and locate receivers down 671 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 6: the field. Uh. I like the competition that's going on 672 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 6: in the secondary. That's that's where the iron is sharpening 673 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 6: the iron, maybe even more so than any any other position. Offensively, 674 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 6: the offensive line, my god, they've looked huge. Everybody came 675 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 6: back in shape or in better in better condition as well. 676 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 6: So uh, watching the ones go against the ones at times. 677 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 6: He's pushing them right now, and it's early in camp, 678 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 6: and you know the job that when you look at it. 679 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 6: I was looking at that second team offense, there's not 680 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 6: a guy in that huddle you wouldn't mind lining up 681 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 6: with in front of you if you had to. 682 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 4: If somebody in front of them on. 683 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 6: The first string line or first string offense went down, 684 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 6: that entire group could produce points if needed. 685 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 4: So it's fun to watch. 686 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 6: I don't want to put the cart before the horse, 687 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 6: take them one at a time because it is a 688 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 6: rough and rugged schedule. Having won the division last year, 689 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 6: you're going to get that. But it's fun to watch 690 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 6: when you go out to practice. 691 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: Drave asked Mark this question a few times. I think 692 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: I asked a couple of days ago, and as you 693 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: watch practice, you go, Okay, this team is obviously with CJ. 694 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 2: Stroud. 695 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: You got to have cgen A lineup we saw the 696 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: last year went one and one with cases to start 697 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: into two games the CJ missed. But I don't think 698 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: you want to go extended time without CJ. 699 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 2: Stroud. 700 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: So let's say CJ. Stroud plays seventeen games. Were good 701 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: with that one guy on either side of the ball. Offense, 702 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: defense are both sides of the ball. You can pick one, 703 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: however you want to do it that the Texans can 704 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: least afford to lose for a significant stretch of time 705 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, on either side of the ball offense, defense, 706 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: The player that you think the Texans can least afford 707 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: to lose not named CJ. C just playing every game 708 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: that they can't lose on either side of the ball. 709 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 4: Boy, tough question. 710 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go Joe Mixon because they need the running 711 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 6: game and he has brought he was brought in here 712 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 6: to basically give that and a little bit more pass 713 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 6: catching skills out of the backfield. He's gonna be in 714 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 6: a lot to this offense once he gets going. And 715 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 6: then defensively, I'm gonna go Derek Stingley Jr. Because of 716 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 6: the camp that he had, the year he had last year. 717 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 6: He is very much plugged in and raring to go. 718 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 6: You know, got in a little scuffle yesterday. But I 719 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 6: think they could ill afford to lose him because the 720 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 6: depth certainly at that and as they try to find 721 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 6: and iron out the other side. Uh, he is he 722 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 6: is a viable part of this. 723 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 4: Uh. 724 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 6: This that secondary where he's gonna match up on every 725 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 6: team's best receiver. 726 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 4: I don't think they could. I don't think they could 727 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 4: lose it. 728 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: Okay, twenty three years. You guys have been doing this 729 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: for a long time. Marvandbert. What was your answer when 730 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: I asked you that yesterday? Well, that's why you know 731 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: Drey and I are doing it together. We shared the 732 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: same DNA astress point. I mean it's football wise. Heisman 733 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: is coming. 734 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like no, I don't get that though. That that 735 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: was that was this is like when we look at 736 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 2: the team though, That's the thing. Uh c J. 737 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 5: Stroudre I mean last year in camp, he's splitting reps 738 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 5: with Mills at this point and we all know what happened. 739 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: What is he going through now? 740 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 5: As he's an established veteran, Yes, I called him that 741 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 5: even though it's only been one year. He performs like 742 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 5: that and he needs to What are your thoughts? 743 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, that one year means a ton, especially with the 744 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 6: amount of games that he played. 745 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 2: Uh. 746 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 4: And then you look at it. 747 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 6: As well from a standpoint just from a confidence standpoint 748 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 6: of being able to come back into the same building, 749 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 6: same terminology, same plays, same play caller. 750 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 4: He is bubbling with confidence. 751 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 6: And then you give him Stefan Diggs in the off season, 752 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 6: you give him a college tight end that he's played 753 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 6: with before. It's it's it's one of those things where 754 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 6: he's got to be boiling over with confidence looking around 755 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 6: a healthy offensive line at this point in camp, Laramie 756 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 6: comes back though that that kind of rounds out everything. 757 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 4: But he's got to. 758 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 6: Be he's got to be as just just confidence just 759 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 6: rolling off of him as he walks through that building, 760 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 6: as he goes through camp, as he goes through practices, 761 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 6: things of that sort of mixing back in the backfield 762 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 6: that he knows. 763 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 4: That if he gets in trouble. 764 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 6: That's where he can go as a safety valve and 765 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 6: then just the overall grasp of everything. So he's working 766 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 6: on obviously footwork and things of that sort. But knowing 767 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 6: the offense, you come to camp, trust me, and every 768 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 6: year there's a different play caller, a different offense, different terminology. 769 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 4: It's like being a rookie all over again. 770 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 6: That's what I'm describing happen to me in Detroit, and 771 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 6: that you're you're basically a rookie every single time you 772 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 6: come back to camp. 773 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 4: It's tough. 774 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean it is tough, There's no question. Okay, we 775 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: have been giving this team its flowers, right, So other 776 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: than injury, Other than injury, as we go into I 777 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: don't know what are we in. 778 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 2: We're going to practice number seven tomorrow. 779 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: What's still for both of you kind of sits out 780 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,479 Speaker 1: there as oh man, I'm still a little worried about this. 781 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 5: Okay, go well with mix it not practicing last couple, 782 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 5: whatever it is. I got to see the running game 783 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 5: and they're in pads, but they're not able to really 784 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 5: fully go, especially. 785 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: Because that's Damien's thing is to break tackles, and you're 786 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: not going to see that practice. 787 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 5: And I think even though you're not going to play 788 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 5: your starter as in all likelihood in the Hall of 789 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 5: Fame game one week from tonight, I still want to 790 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 5: see the ground game in the second and third levels 791 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 5: of the depth chart, whatever levels there are left, and 792 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 5: I want to see that operate against the Chicago Bears 793 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 5: next week. The ground game, to me, has to establish itself. 794 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 5: If it does, oh man, it's going to be so good. 795 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 5: You know, you feel confident Rateed Stroud can get a 796 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 5: lot of things done, even like last year when the 797 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 5: ground game wasn't really clicking at all times. 798 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 2: But for me, that's it. I want the running game 799 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: to flourish. 800 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you'd like to see a click. And Joe 801 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 6: Mixon was a high valued free agent coming in here 802 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 6: who hasn't taken the field yet. But you need to 803 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 6: see what that looks like behind the offensive line, and 804 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 6: so I'm in agreement with you. I will go to 805 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 6: the other side of the ball, and it's the secondary 806 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 6: depth at safety and the other the opposite corner spot 807 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 6: up opposite Stingley, and so that that'll iron itself out. 808 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 6: But uh, there's some guys CJ. Henderson who's got great 809 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 6: size has kind of underachieved to this point in his career. 810 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 4: Jeff A. Kuda has everything you need. 811 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 6: And the thing about those two coming to Houston and 812 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 6: playing for a defensive minded head coach like Demiko Ryans, 813 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 6: he is able to pull out their the best, their 814 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 6: best version, and so if it's gonna happen for them, 815 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 6: it was, it's gonna happen here in Houston, and I 816 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 6: look for one, maybe even both to uh to to 817 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 6: play their best brand of football. That's gonna be it's 818 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 6: gonna be tough, tough cutdowns when that time arrives at 819 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 6: a lot of positional groups, and so that I think 820 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 6: is going to be a tough cut. 821 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 2: You know what. 822 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: That brings up a point I wonder, I wonder if 823 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: this is the team where Nick is able to make 824 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: a deal and bring something back, especially you know, receive, 825 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: maybe not something big, but hey, maybe you're you know, 826 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: you've got this group of receivers. They can all play, right, 827 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: So can you move a guy for you know, a 828 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: sixth rounder you able to just pick up because it's 829 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: a guy that's not gonna make your roster, you know 830 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 1: it's not I'm not moving anybody yet. Yeah, I'm not 831 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: saying tomorrow, but I'm just saying, as we go on, 832 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: get you a couple of preseason games, like, hey, wait 833 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: a second, there are guys getting banged up other places. 834 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: Right to Dre's point, this team's got some depth. So 835 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: what is one of the advantages with that depth is 836 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: you might be able to move somebody and get something 837 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: back for it. 838 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm. 839 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,320 Speaker 6: Okay, especially Johnny, if they flash. 840 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 4: In the preseason, right, you know, yeah, they're. 841 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 6: Not going to really, that's gonna be a it's gonna 842 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 6: be a tough tough for them to make your roster, 843 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 6: but they have play. We see it every year. The 844 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 6: guy goes off in the preseason, but he doesn't make 845 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 6: the regular season roster, the fifty three man roster. It 846 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 6: happens in every camp around around the NFL. But yeah, 847 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 6: you're like, to your question, I think that's very much 848 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 6: a possibility if he can get you know, something for 849 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,720 Speaker 6: him rather than just release him. 850 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: And then absolute truth to that all right? Coming up 851 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: next case Keenum with a cameo from Andre ware Who's 852 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: house Koog's house? 853 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 2: Right here? 854 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: On Texans All Access. We got one fial segment this 855 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 1: Thursday issue at Texans All Access, John Harris, football analyst, 856 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: sideline reporter for your Houston Texans, and a big fan 857 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: of our next guest, well all three of them. Marvy 858 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: and Demure started an interview with Case Keenum and then 859 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: of course andre Ware was there, so you knew there 860 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: was going to be some some kook talk between the twos. 861 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 1: Take a list in case, Mark and andre Case, how's 862 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,399 Speaker 1: it going so far? 863 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 4: It's great. 864 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 8: You know, we got we got one heisman between us 865 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 8: here as a group. So I'm excited about to be 866 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 8: hanging out here with my man, andre Ware. 867 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 4: That's my man. I've always been a big fan of his. 868 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, I was somewhere yesterday in 869 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 6: the mall and a guy had a case Keenum jersey on, so. 870 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 4: I'm yelling at him and kind of giving him a 871 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 4: hard time. 872 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 2: But Koogs are Texans. 873 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 4: It was a Koog's jersey. 874 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 8: Cook fans are out here, man, they're rolling deep. I 875 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 8: get a lot of Who's house Cook's house out here 876 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 8: with the Texans fans, so it's fun to see. 877 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 4: How tough is it for you? 878 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 6: I'm not sure which camp is this camp thirteen fourteen 879 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 6: A right thirteen. 880 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 4: You've been with a in a couple of different systems. 881 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 6: How does it feel finally being back in a system 882 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 6: that you've had some foundation and for year two? 883 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 4: It's really nice. 884 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 8: I mean, as you know, when you're not hearing plays 885 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,800 Speaker 8: for the very first time and then coming out and 886 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 8: running them in practice, it's nice, like you can relax 887 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 8: at certain times, like you know your reads, you hear 888 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,280 Speaker 8: a play like you know Tony Spoon, you know exactly 889 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 8: what you read, your footwork, everything, it's second nature. You 890 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,280 Speaker 8: can worry more about the defense protections, who's my hot, 891 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 8: what are my you know, little details of things we're 892 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 8: focusing on that day. 893 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 4: Maybe it's a cadence. 894 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 8: Variation, maybe it's a huddle operation, maybe it's a shift 895 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 8: emotion that we're working on. So you can really focus 896 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,399 Speaker 8: on little details when when you're in the second year 897 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 8: in an offense, and you can see that with the guys, 898 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 8: there's a lot of receivers that are working the nuances 899 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 8: of their their routes within certain plays and then CJ 900 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 8: doing the same thing. So it's been fun to see. 901 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,919 Speaker 8: It's a really good competitive camp. It's been fun, so fun. 902 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 5: What about this receiver group, it's ocean deep it seems. 903 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 8: Tell you what, when when you're a backup quarterback, you 904 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 8: obviously like seeing the guys you. 905 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,240 Speaker 4: Know in the first group that are that are dogs. 906 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 8: But when you keep going down the list and we 907 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 8: got and we got and and oh yeah, I forgot 908 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 8: about him. 909 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 4: Oh he's having a great camp too. Like it's nice. 910 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 8: It's a trickle down effect where you know everybody's getting open. 911 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 8: We will go up there and watch film and we'll 912 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 8: you know, have a good play. Guy makes a good 913 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 8: play down the field and they're like, hey, Bobby will 914 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 8: be like, hey look look backside here, and there's two 915 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 8: more guys getting open, you know, at the right time. 916 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 8: So they may not show up with the big catches 917 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 8: here and the fans going crazy, but there's some other 918 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 8: guys who are having some sneaky, really good camps. And 919 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 8: when the quarterbacks see that, we watch the film and 920 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 8: we see it. So they're doing a good job. Competition 921 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 8: everywhere and think it. You know, Breezed depth on the 922 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 8: team tight end running back speak. 923 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 4: To us a little bit about those rooms as well. 924 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 4: I love our tight ends. 925 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 8: I mean, as you know, Dalton leads away there and 926 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 8: it's as trustworthy as a guy that you could want. 927 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 8: But again, having tea, getting healthy, getting bread going, and 928 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 8: then uh, Caid's looking really good too. You know, as 929 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 8: a young, trustworthy guy who makes contested catches is where 930 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 8: he's supposed to be most of the time. And uh 931 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 8: and uh no, he's my guy. He had a great 932 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 8: day yesterday and I'm excited to watch see what how 933 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 8: he bounced and bounced back and practice today. 934 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 4: And then you ask about the running backs too. 935 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, so I mean even when Joe, you know, missing 936 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 8: a few practices here and there, I mean you look 937 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 8: at the rest of the crew is not skipped to 938 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 8: be man, it's it's uh, it's guys who are hungry. 939 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 8: I really like preseason and watching young backs go. 940 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 4: Man. 941 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 8: That's that's one of my favorite things to do. Is 942 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 8: it's hard for them right now. You know, we got 943 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 8: the pads on, but it's still thud tempo. It's you know, 944 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 8: we're like, oh, he might have made a miss in 945 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 8: the in the hole or whatever there. Well, we'll find 946 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 8: out here in a week or so. Let those young 947 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:50,839 Speaker 8: backs run. 948 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 4: That was fun. 949 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: If you want to hear that whole interview, go to 950 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: Houston Texas dot com. Go to our podcast page. And 951 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: check out V and News view Texas Train Camp Live, 952 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 1: every piece of audio you could possibly want. We appreciate 953 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: Case for being on, Andre for being on the general, 954 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: being on a man Mark vandermir All of you for listening. 955 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrowybody. 956 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 2: As always, go Texans,