1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,598 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,759 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. 4 00:00:37,839 --> 00:00:39,638 Speaker 2: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall of Fame, 5 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: Mike Gravel. 6 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 7 00:00:42,519 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 8 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian Hoyer. 9 00:00:48,319 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 2: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number 10 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison. 11 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:55,719 Speaker 3: Good to be home, Good to see you, guys. 12 00:00:55,799 --> 00:00:58,519 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the past anywhere you get your podcast. 13 00:01:00,799 --> 00:01:03,479 Speaker 2: Phones down, phones down, no pass down, real quick, Clap 14 00:01:03,479 --> 00:01:05,078 Speaker 2: it up for the defense. Clap it up, plap it 15 00:01:05,119 --> 00:01:08,078 Speaker 2: up somebody else, clap up. There we go, appreciate, there 16 00:01:08,119 --> 00:01:10,958 Speaker 2: we go. Let's start with that defense. What was it 17 00:01:11,039 --> 00:01:13,758 Speaker 2: like to watch them form on a daylight? Man's good 18 00:01:13,759 --> 00:01:15,719 Speaker 2: field sitting over there, you know his offense as a quarterback, 19 00:01:15,759 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: that type of differense performance. You know, I feel like 20 00:01:17,878 --> 00:01:20,279 Speaker 2: you know all the eleven out there at the time, 21 00:01:20,279 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: but I know fifteen to twenty played. Just crush them. 22 00:01:22,719 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: Crush them and you'll practice this week. 23 00:01:24,479 --> 00:01:24,639 Speaker 3: Man. 24 00:01:24,759 --> 00:01:26,599 Speaker 2: It's kind of a good taste of you know what 25 00:01:26,639 --> 00:01:27,999 Speaker 2: looks like you want to looked like for me in 26 00:01:27,999 --> 00:01:29,719 Speaker 2: training camp. And they get after, they get after you 27 00:01:29,799 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 2: mix mix up show, mixed up coverage, mix up blitz packages. 28 00:01:33,359 --> 00:01:35,439 Speaker 2: It's pretty cool to watch and it's good to the 29 00:01:35,519 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: other side of the ball. So I got to make 30 00:01:37,078 --> 00:01:40,158 Speaker 2: some better decisions and and keep those guys in good 31 00:01:40,159 --> 00:01:43,158 Speaker 2: feel position. Seemed like you settled down. 32 00:01:43,239 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: You guys have some three packages up. There's some bubble 33 00:01:45,199 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: scream looks and get a linement up. 34 00:01:47,078 --> 00:01:48,039 Speaker 3: What helped you get the flow of. 35 00:01:47,999 --> 00:01:50,039 Speaker 2: The game there, especially right before the end of the half, 36 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:51,679 Speaker 2: and as you guys you know, added. 37 00:01:51,439 --> 00:01:52,199 Speaker 1: The game fourth core. 38 00:01:52,279 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think be able run the football. Only time 39 00:01:53,559 --> 00:01:54,879 Speaker 2: you be able to run the football first down, you know, 40 00:01:54,879 --> 00:01:56,239 Speaker 2: in fact, that was the big thing you know today 41 00:01:56,279 --> 00:01:57,439 Speaker 2: pre credit to those guys up front and you know 42 00:01:57,479 --> 00:02:00,599 Speaker 2: our guys they played their butts off and run run 43 00:02:00,639 --> 00:02:02,678 Speaker 2: blocking in pass pro. I think be able run the football, 44 00:02:02,679 --> 00:02:04,759 Speaker 2: see some first downs and you know, some big yards 45 00:02:04,759 --> 00:02:07,879 Speaker 2: on the first downs kind of helps us throughout the way. 46 00:02:07,959 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: And then down there we had a couple of drives 47 00:02:09,839 --> 00:02:10,999 Speaker 2: you know that we got down there and got down 48 00:02:10,999 --> 00:02:12,319 Speaker 2: in the red zone, and you know, the Bears are 49 00:02:12,319 --> 00:02:13,599 Speaker 2: one of the best in your red zone defenses in 50 00:02:13,839 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 2: the league. So I think there's some some throws that 51 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:18,879 Speaker 2: I like to have back. And obviously that one, you know, 52 00:02:18,959 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 2: first interception, it's just a bad decision, so trying to 53 00:02:22,358 --> 00:02:23,839 Speaker 2: throw it away and got to throw it away farther. 54 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:25,999 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, on the defense, 55 00:02:26,079 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: you know, ones football football game, we did just enough. 56 00:02:28,719 --> 00:02:31,599 Speaker 3: The broadcast said that you asked AVP if you could 57 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 3: address the offense because you're a little bit frustrated with 58 00:02:34,159 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: what you were seeing in practice. What exactly were you 59 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:39,999 Speaker 3: seeing that made you compelled to say something? 60 00:02:40,239 --> 00:02:43,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think just just little things. I think just 61 00:02:43,359 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 2: taking you know that next step is me being the 62 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:46,879 Speaker 2: quarterback and you knowing them in the offensive meeting room 63 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,479 Speaker 2: of you know, these little things that are adding up 64 00:02:48,479 --> 00:02:50,638 Speaker 2: and hurting us in practice that are leading the game day. 65 00:02:51,038 --> 00:02:52,918 Speaker 2: I think. You know, last week I mentioned we had 66 00:02:53,239 --> 00:02:54,478 Speaker 2: you know, a second and third down and the two 67 00:02:54,479 --> 00:02:55,879 Speaker 2: minute drill that we ran it and we couldn't pick 68 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,358 Speaker 2: up one yard. You know, little things like that, Just 69 00:02:57,399 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 2: a little detailed and focus and I think sometimes getting 70 00:03:00,239 --> 00:03:02,279 Speaker 2: the practice mode where you're just running plays and I 71 00:03:02,359 --> 00:03:04,719 Speaker 2: really tuned in and trying to execute, you know, specific plays, 72 00:03:04,879 --> 00:03:06,159 Speaker 2: trying to just get into a groove. Hey, we're just 73 00:03:06,199 --> 00:03:08,319 Speaker 2: running plays out here just for for nothing, and just 74 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: really trying to challenge those guys and challenge myself to 75 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 2: take each play. And you'll know that, you know, when 76 00:03:13,279 --> 00:03:14,599 Speaker 2: the game comes to this play is called you know 77 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,559 Speaker 2: it matters. You's so many times you know throughout the 78 00:03:17,719 --> 00:03:19,479 Speaker 2: you know the game, you see how much that play 79 00:03:19,479 --> 00:03:21,279 Speaker 2: can impact the turnout of the game. So I was 80 00:03:21,279 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: just trying to get through to them and probably fullding 81 00:03:23,679 --> 00:03:25,279 Speaker 2: some words trying to do it. But I think those 82 00:03:25,279 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 2: guys respected it. Okay, Sean, just what did you see 83 00:03:30,239 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: that play? And just the process of getting up there 84 00:03:32,999 --> 00:03:35,159 Speaker 2: spiking game? Yeah, player are two men. You know, some 85 00:03:35,239 --> 00:03:37,199 Speaker 2: we practice you know, credit to coach Mayo and and 86 00:03:37,519 --> 00:03:40,079 Speaker 2: you know offensive guys and and the staff. We we 87 00:03:40,239 --> 00:03:42,919 Speaker 2: practice those like like nobody's business for practice them every week, 88 00:03:43,279 --> 00:03:45,079 Speaker 2: you know, with big plays and a chunk play and 89 00:03:45,119 --> 00:03:47,238 Speaker 2: getting up there and spiking. And I think we even 90 00:03:47,279 --> 00:03:50,519 Speaker 2: practiced that you on our walkthrough yesterday morning. I think 91 00:03:50,519 --> 00:03:52,959 Speaker 2: that you almost like the same exact thing where you know, 92 00:03:52,999 --> 00:03:54,879 Speaker 2: for we have no time bouts, it's either you know, 93 00:03:54,999 --> 00:03:56,439 Speaker 2: rust the field goal team on one if we could 94 00:03:56,479 --> 00:03:58,479 Speaker 2: have had time for that, so no timeouts, we had 95 00:03:58,479 --> 00:04:00,559 Speaker 2: to clocket and you end up working. So I think 96 00:04:00,559 --> 00:04:02,719 Speaker 2: we looked at that same play on film kind of 97 00:04:02,839 --> 00:04:05,679 Speaker 2: backside dig and just shows you know, what a tribute 98 00:04:05,719 --> 00:04:08,399 Speaker 2: to these coaches getting prepared and just making the row 99 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:10,519 Speaker 2: after after. 100 00:04:10,319 --> 00:04:13,999 Speaker 1: That interception early come back into the half after a 101 00:04:13,999 --> 00:04:15,159 Speaker 1: couple of series that you guys. 102 00:04:15,319 --> 00:04:16,678 Speaker 2: Is being a competitor and I think, you know, just 103 00:04:16,719 --> 00:04:19,199 Speaker 2: knowing you have conferdence myself, you know, I know that's 104 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 2: you know, my style of football, turning the football over 105 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:25,959 Speaker 2: like that and bless you and just growing up and 106 00:04:25,959 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 2: playing different sports and having older brothers and being able 107 00:04:28,239 --> 00:04:30,439 Speaker 2: to bounce back and getting dunked one on them minut hoop 108 00:04:30,438 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: and having to you know, come back here and bounce back, 109 00:04:32,239 --> 00:04:34,518 Speaker 2: you know, from older brothers. So whether it's that or 110 00:04:34,879 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: just you know, face adversity throughout the season, I think 111 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: more and more, you know, times you know, and everything's 112 00:04:38,719 --> 00:04:40,398 Speaker 2: gonna go right, and everything's gona go perfect. And I 113 00:04:40,399 --> 00:04:42,959 Speaker 2: think you saw that from the offense today. But being 114 00:04:42,959 --> 00:04:44,638 Speaker 2: able to bounce back and do what we need to 115 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:49,199 Speaker 2: do with you know, DEFENSI performs like that. You want 116 00:04:49,198 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 2: to earn everyone's respect as a rookie coming. 117 00:04:53,159 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 3: So when you ask Alex to to talk to the 118 00:04:55,719 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 3: team like, how do you measure that out without you 119 00:04:58,519 --> 00:04:59,319 Speaker 3: know you want them to. 120 00:04:59,558 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's huge, no doubt, that's what I think. 121 00:05:01,919 --> 00:05:03,238 Speaker 2: That's something you got to balance, you know, getting to 122 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,399 Speaker 2: know these guys and being genuine with them and you know, 123 00:05:06,479 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: going you know, creating your fellowship, sitting with different people, 124 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,638 Speaker 2: you know, where we're getting something to eat or you know, 125 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: playing different guys and you know, kind of reaching out 126 00:05:13,159 --> 00:05:14,999 Speaker 2: to different guys, trying to get on a personal level 127 00:05:15,039 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 2: instead of just hey and teammates, we're friends that will 128 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,559 Speaker 2: come at work and go home, you know, text them after, 129 00:05:19,958 --> 00:05:21,518 Speaker 2: send them a video. Hey and this look, you know 130 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: we're watching film at home. Cool things like that think 131 00:05:23,639 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 2: can go a long way. And uh, like I said, 132 00:05:25,599 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: trying to get a you know, each guy on a 133 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,558 Speaker 2: personal level can kind of then you know you feel like, oh, okay, 134 00:05:29,599 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 2: that's you know Drake and he cares about me, and 135 00:05:32,479 --> 00:05:38,158 Speaker 2: that's how I approaching When he speeds the team this week. 136 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:43,319 Speaker 2: Think maybe an after Wednesday's practice, the first pressure of 137 00:05:43,359 --> 00:05:46,439 Speaker 2: the week, I think, uh, I think I fumbled a snap. 138 00:05:46,958 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: I think we didn't pick up you know, protection that 139 00:05:49,198 --> 00:05:50,759 Speaker 2: we've been you know, trying to pick up. I think, 140 00:05:51,879 --> 00:05:54,958 Speaker 2: you know, may had some little, you know, mental errors 141 00:05:54,958 --> 00:05:57,199 Speaker 2: that I think, you know, I really started with myself 142 00:05:57,318 --> 00:06:02,119 Speaker 2: that I think ended up that we didn't show today 143 00:06:02,159 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: and that that's what counted five and the second quarter 144 00:06:06,999 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 2: complete the past to Pope, who's kind of been you know, yeah, 145 00:06:11,599 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 2: that's pretty cool. You know, first round, you'll pick a 146 00:06:13,719 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 2: second round pick. And I think JP is he's finding it. 147 00:06:16,958 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 2: I think, uh, there's some times where I think I 148 00:06:19,479 --> 00:06:21,439 Speaker 2: had him some other times in the game, and I 149 00:06:21,438 --> 00:06:23,079 Speaker 2: think he's he's gonna be a great player and looking 150 00:06:23,078 --> 00:06:26,238 Speaker 2: forward to hoping that that touchdown to some confidence and uh, 151 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 2: he's gonna make a lot of players for us. So 152 00:06:28,399 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: thank you. 153 00:06:29,719 --> 00:06:32,399 Speaker 1: Patre Let's playbook join John Rook as he brings you 154 00:06:32,438 --> 00:06:35,238 Speaker 1: all the latest Patriots Talk, an expert commentary direct from 155 00:06:35,239 --> 00:06:38,439 Speaker 1: Patriots HQ. 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