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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: Rob King sitting in once again for the vacationing Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate having Rob here and Rob today you'll think

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Speaker 2: you'll excuse me a little bit, actually get a little infection.

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Speaker 2: Oh in my surgical area here. It's yeah, so it's

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Speaker 2: actually it was all swollen up yesterday, but today it's

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Speaker 2: a little a little bit better. But I'm still struggling

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Speaker 2: with the speech a little bit today, but I'll get

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Speaker 2: through it. Put me on some antibiotics and things of

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Speaker 2: that nature. Good.

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Speaker 3: I hate that word infection. That's a scary word. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: My wife was looking at me and goes, you need

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Speaker 2: to get that checked out, and I'm like, yeah, I know,

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Speaker 2: and yeah I took a picture and sent it to

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Speaker 2: my doctor and yeah, you need some and iodics there.

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Speaker 2: So anyways, the NFL came out today with this important

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Speaker 2: Dates listing four for the twenty twenty four to twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five seasons. This takes us into next off season,

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Speaker 2: so we now kind of know what's going to happen

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Speaker 2: in the league after the Super Bowl this year, which

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Speaker 2: we will be held, the Pro Bowl February second, the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl then being held. There's a lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: here February ninth at the Superdome in Louisiana.

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Speaker 3: We knew that.

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Speaker 2: Then you're looking at the NFL Scouting Combined February twenty

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Speaker 2: fourth through March third, that is once again at Lucas

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Speaker 2: Oil Stadium, Indianapolis. Always a good so there's not much.

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Speaker 2: This is the thing when when when the NFLPA last

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Speaker 2: month was talking about the potential to hey, let's do

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Speaker 2: away with OTAs in the way we do off seasons now,

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Speaker 2: and let's start in June and have mini camps and

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Speaker 2: then roll the OTAs at out of mini camps and

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Speaker 2: roll right into training camp. This is the thing. This

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Speaker 2: is the flying the ointment for the coaches at the

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Speaker 2: very least, they don't get any time off in the spring.

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Speaker 2: They roll right from the end of the season. You

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Speaker 2: get your evaluations of your roster, free agents, you go

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Speaker 2: and you do the combine stuff because free agency this

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Speaker 2: year will start. What are we looking at here March

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Speaker 2: March tenth to twelfth is the two day negotiating period,

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Speaker 2: the legal tampering period as it were, And that means

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Speaker 2: that March thirteenth or March twelfth, I should say, the

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Speaker 2: new league year begins. So j over like five weeks

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Speaker 2: after the Super Bowl. You're into the new league year.

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Speaker 2: You got free agency hitting, you got all the draft

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Speaker 2: stuff going on this year.

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Speaker 3: So we got to stop hanging out a second. So

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Speaker 3: a couple of things.

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Speaker 4: First of all, is legal tampering not be an oxymoron,

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Speaker 4: wouldn't it?

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Speaker 3: I tampering?

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Speaker 2: But that's what they legal. Yeah, right, you can legally

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Speaker 2: approach players.

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Speaker 4: And I understand that. But I'm just thinking maybe we

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Speaker 4: need to rename that. Start a movement to rename legal

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Speaker 4: tampering would be with you.

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Speaker 3: So here's I don't.

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Speaker 4: Know if we're going to get to the mini Campo

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Speaker 4: ta moving that notion that. I'm not sure how much

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Speaker 4: gusto there is behind that. Among the players that I

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Speaker 4: talked to.

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Speaker 2: In the Steelers' locker room, we're not real high on that.

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Speaker 3: So and I and I can understand a couple of reasons.

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Speaker 2: Summer, sure, I think there's a.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a couple of things at play here. So,

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Speaker 4: first of all, for the league. I mean, I remember

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Speaker 4: when baseball you felt like Baseball owned the offseason. The

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Speaker 4: season would end, the World Series would end. It's late October,

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Speaker 4: and now you wait a week and everyone's talking about

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Speaker 4: the World Series. And then they start rolling out the awards,

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Speaker 4: the MVP, the Cy Young, the Gold Glove. I mean

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Speaker 4: that used to be a big deal. Who's the right silvers?

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Speaker 4: All these things were part of the announcements. And then

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Speaker 4: you know, you'd you'd bleed a few weeks, and then

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Speaker 4: you know, they'd have the owner's meetings and maybe some

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Speaker 4: spring training. Well, that doesn't cut the mustard anymore. In

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Speaker 4: the NFL. The NFL owns three sixty five.

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Speaker 2: This is the only time of the year that you

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Speaker 2: really don't see a lot of NFL news right because.

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Speaker 3: One month it's one month. That's it.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's on vacation right now, even at the league offices.

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Speaker 2: If you tried to contact somebody at the NFL offices

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well, when it's a Okay, let's subtract thirty days.

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Speaker 4: But it's a three hundred and thirty five day, twenty

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Speaker 4: much is I mean, And that's what the NFL is.

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Speaker 4: And it's feeding this sort of insatiable desire that fans

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Speaker 4: have for the NFL and the news. And I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know all these things that have happened Thursday night football.

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Speaker 4: I mean, now you know, then you sneak in some

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Speaker 4: Saturday games and you know you're playing football NFL for

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Speaker 4: this year, right, I mean, right, it is. I just

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Speaker 4: think that the moving of training camp so that I

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Speaker 4: think I have two things. One, it gets you out

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Speaker 4: think the summer is in natural time to sort of

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Speaker 4: get out of the news.

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Speaker 3: Let everybody have some time.

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Speaker 4: The other thing is from a player's perspective, I just

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Speaker 4: can't see how that's good for your body. You have

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Speaker 4: to have some kind of rest. I mean, you need

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Speaker 4: that rest after the season. Then you get some workouts

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Speaker 4: in fantastic you've been working out, get the body moving

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Speaker 4: a little bit. I mean, I would I would love

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Speaker 4: to hear from trainers and people who I mean, now

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Speaker 4: everything is is measured. You know, how far is your

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Speaker 2: You see you see the players that's monitoring. That's the

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Speaker 2: GPS trackers that they track them during practice. That's right,

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Speaker 2: to see how many steps they've run, how fast they've run,

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Speaker 2: things of that nature. It is very scientific now, So I.

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Speaker 4: Would love to hear from somebody who said, oh, this

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Speaker 4: is fine for your body. I just I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: August first or thereabout, it's late July until the end

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Speaker 4: of the season is unbelievably grueling, and that's what To

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Speaker 4: add another five weeks in front of that, just that

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Speaker 4: doesn't and make it continuous, it seems like that would

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Speaker 2: I get it in some ways because I asked, stand,

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Speaker 2: what they're trying to say here is like, look, we're

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Speaker 2: you go away for five or six weeks and you

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Speaker 2: know it's all it's incumbent then upon the players to

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Speaker 2: during those that you can't just sit around eating bond

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Speaker 4: Here's the other thing too, And I would wonder about

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Speaker 4: this from a player's perspective. I mean, I know you

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Speaker 4: played college basketball. I played college football. Small small, small,

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Speaker 4: small stuff. But anybody who's competed, sometimes when you're in something,

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Speaker 4: it's it's a whirlwind. And the ability to step back,

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Speaker 4: like you hear players say, oh I learned you know,

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Speaker 4: an NHL player gets hurt and I learned a lot

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Speaker 4: from the game by watching it from the press box.

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Speaker 4: Why because you've had a chance to step back, I observe.

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Speaker 4: So when you're trying to absorb all of the information

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Speaker 4: But now you bring in a new offensive coordinator, for

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Speaker 4: example for the Steelers, all this new verbage and all

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Speaker 4: these different things that you have to absorb. I think

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Speaker 4: the ability to step back for a month. I'm with you,

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Speaker 4: you know, and okay, let me clear the mind for

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Speaker 4: two days and let me get my head back in

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Speaker 4: the in the playbook and kind of you know, figure this,

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Speaker 4: and now we can start again in late July and

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Speaker 4: in August. When you get into training camp. So I don't,

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Speaker 4: I'm not, I don't. I'll be very interested to see

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Speaker 4: if there's really much of a groundswall support for that

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Speaker 2: I'm going with you as well, you know. I just

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Speaker 2: think for me, like my son was a pitcher, pitched

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Speaker 2: like there were other kids that I knew that they

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Speaker 2: trained year round for that stuff. And that's where you

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Speaker 2: come into arm problems. You know, your body's just sometimes

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Speaker 2: your body needs.

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Speaker 3: A rest, a break.

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Speaker 2: And if you're going from the start of June until

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Speaker 2: as we see here late you know, mid February for

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Speaker 2: those teams that go to the Super Bowl, that's a

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Speaker 2: long drawn out season.

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Speaker 4: So you know what a lot of pitchers do now

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Speaker 4: in baseball, they throw in January. Like the Pirates used

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Speaker 4: to have a mini camp. They called it a mini

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Speaker 4: camp in January. And I think that there is so

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Speaker 4: everybody takes some time off after the season, but these

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Speaker 4: back down. I don't think I'd want to go forever

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Speaker 4: without I mean, and it would feel like forever after

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Speaker 4: a season without touching a ball, touching a football, touching

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Speaker 4: a baseball, and then all of a sudden, you're, you know,

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Speaker 4: you're thrust into camp.

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Speaker 3: I think that well, yeah, I mean I think that'd

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Speaker 3: be I just I don't know. I think it's good.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: And it's been this way really since the late nineteen nineties,

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Speaker 2: early two thousands. I mean, I can remember I never

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Speaker 2: heard the term ota until the late nineties, early two thousands.

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Speaker 2: I can remember going to some of those sessions and

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Speaker 2: Bill Kwer wouldn't even come down on the field if

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Speaker 2: coaches out there doing some stuff with the players. Bill

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Speaker 2: Other times Bill was our golfing or something. You know.

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Speaker 2: It just there were other He had other things to do,

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Speaker 2: right to sit and watch yet other football practice. He

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Speaker 3: But Mike Tommon, by the way, hands he's.

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Speaker 2: Very hands on, complete opposite. But they've morphed over the years.

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Speaker 2: It's gotten more and more and so you know, I

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Speaker 2: I just think that that they've found and I get it.

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Speaker 2: The players, you know the fact that it's you know,

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Speaker 2: three or four days a week in the offseason, you

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Speaker 2: got guys flying they don't live here year round. They're

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Speaker 2: flying in and flying out for these sessions and things

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Speaker 2: of that nature. I get it. They're also voluntary. And

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes you know, when when the media portsol

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Speaker 2: so and so it's skipping ota sessions and you see

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Speaker 2: the fan backlash. It's voluntary. In our jobs. If if

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Speaker 2: somebody said, well, you know, we uh, we're going to

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Speaker 2: have this meeting today, but it's voluntary. You don't have

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Speaker 2: expect your your work is still going to be completed.

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Speaker 2: We're just having this meeting, this voluntary. How many people

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. He is Rob King sitting in for vacationing.

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Speaker 2: Pete Prisco does his top one hundred lists on cbssports

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Speaker 4: Yes, maybe, And again, when they're building these lists, it's

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Speaker 2: City Chiefs, unranked last year. Eighty nine is Alee McNeil

437
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 2: of the Detroit Lions, defensive tackle out of NC State.

438
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 2: He was actually in the same or the same recruiting

439
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 2: class at NC State as Peyton Wilson.

440
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 3: Okay, so interesting.

441
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 2: They were the top two guys in NC State's recruiting

442
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 2: class and one is a rookie and one is number eight,

443
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: like my third year guy. Yeah at eighty eight. Mike Evans,

444
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 2: he was unrated last year. How about that?

445
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 3: There's just so many good times.

446
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying, Like this is the top

447
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 2: five percent of the league. As this is by the way.

448
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 3: I find that. I find it difficult.

449
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 4: Like I think when you talk about a sport like baseball,

450
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 4: who's going to get into the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

451
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 4: you know there's some debates. Certainly there's some guys around

452
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 4: the edges. You know, should Kurt Shilling be in? Should

453
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 4: he not be in?

454
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 2: I think he should.

455
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 3: I think Dave Parker, I.

456
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 4: Think a Parker should absolutely one is my number one

457
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 4: guy that should an Tonioliva I thought should have been

458
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 4: in years ago.

459
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 3: He finally got in.

460
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 4: But by and large, you have a pretty good idea football.

461
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 4: You get down to those final fifteen guys, and sometimes

462
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 4: you're like, how did so and so not make the

463
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 4: final fifteen?

464
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 2: Rob I did the vote in twenty nineteen, UH for

465
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 2: Ed Bouchette. I sat in for him at the Super

466
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 2: Bowl that year, and A I had to present Troy,

467
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: Paulamalo and Allen Fanica. First time I'm in the room

468
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 2: and I got to stand up twice to present these guys.

469
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 2: And secondly, every time one of the presenters got done

470
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 2: with their with their speech. Mike he yeah, I can

471
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: vote for that guy, right, right, you know, but you

472
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 2: can't vote for them all. You can't vote for them all.

473
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: You can only get to vote for five. So it

474
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: is a very difficult process.

475
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think, well, of course, there's so

476
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 4: many more players like you're pointing out here.

477
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, and they play different positions, right.

478
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: I mean, you got you have baseball, right.

479
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: Baseball can measure hitters against hitters.

480
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 3: And you're running nine guys out there.

481
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 4: They're playing offense and defense for me, you know, and

482
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 4: in football you got twenty two guys.

483
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: You have pass Russ.

484
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 2: You're measuring guards against quarterbacks and guards against safeties. They

485
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 2: don't they don't do the same things, right, and so

486
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: it makes it difficult. Eighty seven unranked last year was

487
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 2: Jordan Love.

488
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

489
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like any ascending player at a premium position,

490
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 4: you want to see it again. But there was nothing

491
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 4: to see there that didn't.

492
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: Look like No, he played well, it's going to keep going, yeah.

493
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: Eighty six Another Kansas City guard. That would be Joe Thuney.

494
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: He was eighty last year. At eighty five un ranked

495
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 2: last year Rock Purdy.

496
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 3: Okay, what do you think?

497
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: Mmmm, I'm not. I think he's a systems quarterback. I

498
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 2: think he plays very well within that system. I think

499
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: he does have some intangibles that.

500
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 3: You know.

501
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily give him credit for going into last season,

502
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: but I think they'll tell us a lot about they

503
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: feel about him when his contracts up here soon and

504
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: they have to sign him to a new one. Are

505
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 2: they going to sign him to a fifty five or

506
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: sixty million dollars year contract or are they going to

507
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: say nah, we'll go fish and try something else.

508
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 4: He made a couple of throws this year where I

509
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 4: was like, whoa, because that was my feeling too. I thought, Okay,

510
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 4: you know dank and dunk. You know, Shanahan find the

511
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 4: open guy. Guys are always open.

512
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: Got tremendous receivers and.

513
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 4: Tremendous receiver He had great, great talent around him. But

514
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 4: I was like, he makes some throws that made me think,

515
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 4: wellay him in it now? Maybe he is the eighty

516
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 4: fourth best player. What have we got him out here?

517
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: Eighty five?

518
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: Eighty five? Yeah, I had him a spot too high.

519
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 2: Eighty four DJ Moore. He was un ranked last year

520
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: the Bears wide receiver eighty three unranked last year.

521
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 3: Wow, DJ Moore.

522
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see when someone tries to

523
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 4: get him actually can get him the ball.

524
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he had ninety six catches last year. Yeah,

525
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: you know average fourteen point two yards per catch.

526
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 4: Right, if you can, if you can upgrade that quarterback absolutly, yeah,

527
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 4: that'll be interesting.

528
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 2: Eighty three Trey McBride, the Arizona Cardinals tight end. Un

529
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: ranked last year.

530
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 3: Boy, we saw him. Was it him that played so well?

531
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah he could play.

532
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: He was. He was impressive.

533
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 2: Eighty two Devonte Smith. That's down from sixty nine the

534
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 2: year before with the Philadelphia Eagles. Eighty one is Deebo Samuel,

535
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 2: down from fifty seven the previous year. Eighty Derek Stingley

536
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: junior with the Texans. He was unranked last year. Joey

537
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: Porter Junior is a better player than Derek Stingley. I'm

538
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,479
Speaker 2: not saying on potential and maybe he's looking at this

539
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: going well, Derek Stingley, but when they were on the

540
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: field last season, when we last saw both of those players,

541
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: Porter was the better player. In my opinion.

542
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 4: Well, I think what happens and I think when you see,

543
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 4: you know, his second Kansas City chiefs guard coming in.

544
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 4: We saw this with the Jaguars the year they beat

545
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 4: the Steelers. So if just a quick refresher for people,

546
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 4: you know, they the Jaguars that year played a last

547
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 4: play schedule.

548
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: Guys compiled some numbers.

549
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was a little bit deceiving. Yes, they

550
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 4: came in here and beat the Steelers in the Steelers

551
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 4: really played a bad game. Remember they awful rock portals

552
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 4: scored yeah, forty five points whatever it was. You know,

553
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 4: they they put up they put up seven Pro Bowlers

554
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 4: that layer, yeah or something like that. And you thought

555
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 4: to yourself, well, this is an ascending team. This is

556
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 4: a team on the rise, and a lot of those

557
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 4: guys that was their high water mark.

558
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 2: Once you take a taking that big jump as it

559
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: is maybe easier than sustaining, sustaining because now you get

560
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: the target on you.

561
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 4: Right that, and and then don't forget too that. You know,

562
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 4: if you're playing the last you're playing other last place teams,

563
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 4: you're gonna compile better stats and say, if you're grinding

564
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 4: it out against the third best schedule in the NFL,

565
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 4: that makes it a little more difficult to succeed as well.

566
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: I think what we're seeing here is a little bit

567
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 4: early on of a case of to the victor go

568
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 4: the spoils. Now, if this record is legitimate, right, if

569
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 4: these guys, if Houston goes forward and has another big year,

570
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 4: then we're gonna say, Okay, well they have another big

571
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 4: year because they have great players like this.

572
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

573
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 4: But if they fall off, then we'll say, okay, well,

574
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 4: these guys maybe you know, they were out over their

575
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 4: skis a little bit. Or maybe the fact that they're

576
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 4: playing a weaker schedule either they couldn't sustain it, or

577
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 4: it becomes you know, you're playing better personnel, whatever the

578
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 4: case may be.

579
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 3: Maybe some of these guys drift off.

580
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: But he said he's a long corner who is capable

581
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: of matching gumping coverage with the game's best receivers. Okay,

582
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: he might be capable.

583
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: We saw long corner who does who's capable.

584
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: Porter did last season what no other cornerback in the

585
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 2: league was doing, traveling with the other team's best receiver.

586
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: Nobody else does that. Sauce Gardner doesn't do that in

587
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 2: New York. These these they play sides, and so I

588
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: just think people are underestimating what he did last year

589
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: as a rookie. Seventy nine was unrated last year. Khalil Mack.

590
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 3: Okay had a.

591
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: Very good season. Now eight of those sacks came in

592
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: one game maybe had last year, so that's certainly helped.

593
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: Seventy eight. He was seventy four last season. Christian Wilkins,

594
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: now with the Las Vegas Raiders. Seven seven unrated last year.

595
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: Nico Collins with the Houston Texans had a very good year.

596
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: Sure did seventy six. Jared Goff He was unranked last

597
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: year at seventy five. He was unranked last year. Tyron

598
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: Or Tyler Smith, the Dallas Cowboys offensive tackle. They'll be

599
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: counting on much more from him this year. But that

600
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: Jared Goff, I'm I'm still you know, I know we

601
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: talked about it the other day. Yeah, he's an interesting guy.

602
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: And you know the Rams won the Super Bowl, right, Yeah,

603
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: you know, you get Stafford in there and you're able

604
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: to do something there. But I think the Lions are

605
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: probably not kicking himself for that trick. I'm not unhappy. Yeah,

606
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: they they got draft picks, they got they got a quarterback,

607
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: that's right.

608
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh.

609
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: Seventy four. Once again, this brings me to the porter conversation.

610
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: Seventy four unrated last year because he was a rookie

611
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon with the Seahawks. Hm hmm, tell me he

612
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: had that much better of a season. The reporter didn't

613
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: even make the honorable mention on this.

614
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: Now we sure, I look sure, we're not going to

615
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: scroll up and find Joey Porters.

616
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: We're not going to find him on the list. I

617
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: scrolled through it and looked for the Steelers. Uh, seventy

618
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: three not rated last year. Montese Sweat with the Bears

619
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: seventy two was rated number sixty three last year by

620
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: Pete Prisco.

621
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 4: I mean Sweat really made a big difference on that defense,

622
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 4: didn't he he got to Chicago.

623
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he made he made a pass.

624
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: He did twelve and a half sacks last year, so

625
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: it made a big difference. Wilson at seventy two, he

626
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: was sixty three last year with no quarterback. They had

627
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: ninety five catches last year with no quarterbacks.

628
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: I mean he cannot wait for Aaron Rodgers to take.

629
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: No doubt, he can't wait. Seventy one. He was number

630
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: forty one last year. Make a Fitzpatrick. So after a

631
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: season in which he had no turnovers.

632
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: That's respect for me, that's respect.

633
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: He's with little help in the second level last season,

634
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: Why I wouldn't say little help. Fitzpatrick wasn't as good

635
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: on the back end as recent years. He was also

636
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: limited by injury. At his best, he's a game changer

637
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: who can cover a lot of ground. They asked him

638
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: to do so much last year.

639
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 4: Well, you know, we talked about this a couple of

640
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 4: days ago when I first filled in for Matt. The

641
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 4: trickle down effect that a great player has, the fact

642
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: that Amenka Fitzpatrick can make a great player. He can

643
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 4: make a good player a great player because you know,

644
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: you have to look away from Minka and now you

645
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 4: can slight you know, Minka can take part of it.

646
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: He can take a deep center, so that changes what

647
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 4: you do. But the other thing is it's like what

648
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 4: you know Ryan Clark, So Troy Polamalo obviously was one

649
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 4: of those players. Ryan Clark allowed Troy Polamalo by being

650
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 4: a good sound player and he was more than that.

651
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 4: But he allowed Troy Polamalo to do the kind of

652
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: special things that have that trickle down effect that help

653
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 4: everybody out, so a guy can't do it a lot.

654
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: I think I really like Deseean Elliott. I think he's

655
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: a good, good signing.

656
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 4: And I think that he's going to potentially have a

657
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 4: similar effect, you know, in the same neighborhood they.

658
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: Are looking to do this year. I think Patrick Queen

659
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: has that trickle down effect as well, right, because now

660
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: you're not asking Minka Fitzpatrick to come up and play

661
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: necessarily in the slot, adding Cam Sutton there. Now you're

662
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: not asking him to come up and play dime linebacker

663
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: or nicol linebacker because you've got guys capable of doing it.

664
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: He was just asked to do so many different things

665
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: on the back end last year. Now they can just

666
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: him in deep Yill. When he talked a couple of

667
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: weeks ago about getting back to playing minke a ball, right,

668
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: that's what he's talking about, right, And then Tara Austin

669
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: kind of reiterated that last week when he spoke like, no,

670
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: we need to put him in a position where he

671
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: can be back there with his eyes on the quarterback

672
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: and make play. Absolutely, let's roll through here at number seventy.

673
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: We'll do ten more here before we take a break

674
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: seventy unranked last year's Christian Barmore with the Ravens at

675
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: an outstanding season sixty nine. Last season he was fifty one.

676
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: Is Rashaun Slater the Chargers offensive tackle sixty eight unrated

677
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: last year? How about this one, George Pickens? Wow?

678
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: Wow?

679
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: Did that catch a little off guard?

680
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: Way off guard? Holy mackerel. That's some respect for some Yeah.

681
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: Extremely you know, he was eighteen point one yards a

682
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: catch last year. It's sixty three catches. We've talked about

683
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: it on this show. He did that on about one

684
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: hundred and ten targets. He's going to get more than

685
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: one hundred and ten targets this year. I've seen some

686
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: people out there saying, well, who get you know, sixty

687
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: catch in for a thousand yards? Oh No, I don't

688
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: think that's going to be the case. I think you're

689
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: looking at seventy five plus catches, and if he can

690
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: average somewhere around that eighteen point one yard per catch average,

691
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: which he should be able to do, he could be

692
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: he's one of this year's breakout stars.

693
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: I agree he could be that guy.

694
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 4: And I think that Russell Wilson's ability to throw the

695
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: deep bays there's been a good help. Some mess roller

696
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: pickings can do that, and you know right now there

697
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 4: is no Deontay Johnson. I mean, I think the tight

698
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: ends are going to get some more football throwing their away,

699
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 4: maybe the backs. But that, Wow, that did catch me

700
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 4: by surprise, because again, you know, if we wanted to

701
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 4: grumble about some picks earlier based on projection, this is

702
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 4: a This is a pick based some on production, but

703
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 4: I think also on projection.

704
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. Sixty seven unrated last year as TJ.

705
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 2: Hawkinson in Minnesota, the tight Vikings tight end sixty six, unrated,

706
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: jeer Puka Nakua with the Rams sixty five unrated last

707
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: year to a Taigo Vailoa with the Dolphins sixty four.

708
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: He was number twenty one last year. Packers cornerback JayR

709
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 2: Alexander Okay sixty three unrated last year Dolphins safety Javon

710
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,479
Speaker 2: Holland sixty two. He was number twenty three last year.

711
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: Jacksonville quarterback Trevor Lawrence.

712
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: We're all these guys that have moved up. That's what

713
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: this is. I'm intrigued now this list is going on.

714
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: Of course, Lawrence has got the huge of contract, but again,

715
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 4: you have to believe that him being higher ranked the

716
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: year before was based on what they thought he was

717
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 4: going to do.

718
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: Right sixty one, he was fifty three last year's Baltimore

719
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: tight end Mark Andrews. So that's the first forty. We'll

720
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: get to the final sixty here when we come back

721
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: after the break. He is Rob King sitting in for

722
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive

723
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more

724
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: right after this.

725
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

726
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

727
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

728
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: And before we get back into Pete Prisco's list of

729
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: top one hundred players, I just want to make note

730
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: that I'm made a little mistake there. I say Christian

731
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: Barmore places for the Baltimore Ravens. He of course played,

732
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: yeah right, he of course plays for the New England Patriots.

733
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: I confused him with Justin Mattabuke. I just wanted to

734
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: make that Correctionaire At number sixty, Rob King sitting in

735
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: for Matt Williamson is forty nine Ers quarter cornerback Charvarius Ward.

736
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: He was un ranked last year. I don't know that

737
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: he's that good.

738
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 3: Of a player. Did the victors go to spoilers?

739
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: I guess at fifty nine he was eighty two last year.

740
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: Derek Brown with the Kin of Panthers, the big defensive tackle,

741
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: very good player, fifty eight, unranked last year. Our highest

742
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: rookie from a year ago thus far. Sam Laporta with

743
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions fifty seven. Laramie Tunsell.

744
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: I wonder how many tight ends are going to be.

745
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people, if you're holding fantasy

746
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: draft right now, are taking Laporta as number one fantasy

747
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: tight end.

748
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 3: Wow.

749
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: Laramie tunsas player man, Yeah, he is Houston's OFFENSI attack.

750
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: He can't go wrong taking those Iowa tight ends. You

751
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: just can't, yeh Tunsall was fifty last year. He's fifty

752
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 2: seven this year at fifty six. He was unrated last year.

753
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: Frank Ragnow, who very well could be the top center

754
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: in the game now with Kelsey retired. Fifty five is

755
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence. He was he was unrated last year. The

756
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: Cowboys defensive end fifty four. Christian darra Saw with the Vikings,

757
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: the offensive tackle was number fifty six last year at

758
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 2: fifty three. He was number thirty one last year. Jalen

759
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: Hurts fifty two. He was eighteen last year. Lane Johnson

760
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: the Eagles right.

761
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: Tackle, going up. Everyone's going down so far, who's going up?

762
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 2: Well, we have a bunch of guys who are unrated,

763
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: including this next guy. So these guys are pushed up

764
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: and some of these other guys are pushed down. Fifty

765
00:37:53,960 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: one is New Titans defensive back Lagerius Snead moving into

766
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 2: our top fifty. At fifty we need a drum roll

767
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: to rated last year to Mario Davis, the outside linebacker

768
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: for the New Orleans Saints. Dak Prescott comes in at

769
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: forty nine. He was unrated last year. Wow, yeah, forty eight.

770
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: He was number forty last year. As Creed Humphrey, I

771
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: completely disagree with that Ragnow is the better player than

772
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: Creed Humphrey. Interesting, I think Ragnew is a far better player.

773
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, Creed Humphy's pretty good.

774
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: Don Creed Humphrey iss good. But Creed Humphrey snaps and

775
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: you kind of feel like you're watching what happened with

776
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: the with the Steelers Towards the end of last year,

777
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 2: his snaps were all over the place. At forty seven,

778
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: he was unrated. Last year's Aiden Hutchinson with the Lions

779
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 2: forty six, he was unrated last year. Is just a

780
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: meta buquet, So there we go.

781
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: I was gonna ask if Hutchinson was going to be

782
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 4: the highest unrated guy, but then the next.

783
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: Guy and then they aren't the highest unrated guy because

784
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: at forty five not rated last year as Brandon Ayuk

785
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 2: with the forty nine Ers forty four, he was unrated

786
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: last year. Jesse Bates the Falcon safety at forty three. Wow,

787
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: he was number four.

788
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: Jesse Bates.

789
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 4: Wow, he goes from the Bengals to the Saints and

790
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 4: then shoots up to number forty four. Topics a number

791
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: A yeah, forty four, Yeah.

792
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: Wow at forty three was number fourteen last year. Jayalen Ramsey, okay,

793
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: forty two, he was number sixty two last years Jayleen Waddle.

794
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 3: I really liked Jalen Wattle.

795
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 4: I mean, where would he be if he was in

796
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: other teams? You know some guys, some guys are not

797
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 4: suited to be number ones. I mean, or they understand

798
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 4: what the burden of that is. Like I remember when

799
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan retired and everyone was like, oh, Scotty Pippins

800
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: could have blossomed mount and listen, he performed better.

801
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: It wasn't the same though.

802
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 4: No. I mean you got everybody, I mean every top

803
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 4: defenders going against Jordan, every game plan is going against

804
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 4: every double team is going against Jordan. And now you're

805
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 4: taking that on. Can you do that? I think Jalen

806
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: Wattle could. I think Jalen Wattle would be number one

807
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 4: on pretty.

808
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: Much ever been asked to do it, even in college.

809
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, So that it's still a question.

810
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 2: Mark forty one. He was number twenty two last year.

811
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, I kind of questioned, I don't know how

812
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: much they're going to throw the football this year. He

813
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: has nobody to throw the ball to.

814
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: He has nobody to hand the ball to either day.

815
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: Right at forty he was number seventy six last year.

816
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: Is Rokwan Smith thirty nine? Is he was eighty three

817
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: last year? A mon Ross Saint Brown thirty eight?

818
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: You know, can I stick on Roquan Smith for a second.

819
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

820
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 4: I think when we talk about football being the ultimate

821
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 4: team game, I think it's fascinating to think about how

822
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 4: you would scout a guy like Patrick Queen.

823
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: Right, let's talk more about that in the next hour.

824
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: I had a note in my five for Friday today

825
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: that kind of dispels some of the theories out there

826
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: that Rokwan Smith made Patrick Queen.

827
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: No, but I think it's an interesting Okay, good, we'll

828
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: talk about it.

829
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in the next hour. At thirty eight,

830
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: here's our highest unranked guy thus far.

831
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: C J.

832
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: Stroud.

833
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: He's good, he's really good.

834
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: Thirty seven. He was number thirty two last year. George Kittle.

835
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: Did you see he lost thirty pounds in the off

836
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: season because yeah, get sick or yeah he had a surgery,

837
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 2: I believe, and he lost. He lost thirty pounds. He's

838
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: a great player.

839
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 4: And by the way, like you never hear any complaints

840
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 4: about it, like if he's not getting that now again,

841
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 4: I don't it sound like I'm picking up to san particular.

842
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 2: Well, he r on a blocking tight end in college

843
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: who's blossomed into a great all around play.

844
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 3: And doesn't mind blocking. So right, great.

845
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: Blocker, thirty six. He was unranked last year. So there

846
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: we go. Now our new highest run Well, there's a

847
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 2: guy above him. This stillner. Kyle Hamilton with the Ravens.

848
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: Great player man. Look, I know he's a raven man,

849
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: as he agreed, he's a very good player.

850
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. Thirty five is Danielle Hunter. He was unranked last year.

851
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: We got another unranked player here above him. Thirty four

852
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 2: is Bears cornerback Jalen Johnson.

853
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: Wow.

854
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, because there, you know, there was a lot of

855
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, you know Steelers fans hey trade for

856
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: him at the trade deadline, and you know a lot

857
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: of a lot of people thought he was going to

858
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 4: be available, and you wonder, again, I'm not saying he's

859
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 4: not a good player, but he knew he's a good player.

860
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 3: Is it a little bit of reputational bias that maybe

861
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 3: shoots him up a little bit?

862
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: Because because he had so interesting, very good season last year?

863
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 4: She did I'm saying a coupled with that, right, thirty

864
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 4: three and there's a reason everybody wants him, right Yeah?

865
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yes, thirty three was ninety one. Last year's Trey

866
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: Hendrickson with the Bengals. Okay, thirty two, he was sixty

867
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: last year. Jordan Mylotta with the Eagles thirty one unrated

868
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: last year, Antoine Winfield, the Buccaneers safety. We're now in

869
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: the top thirty, okay, thirty. Unrated last year Kansas City

870
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: Chiefs cornerback Trent McDuffie. I can't put him that he

871
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 2: has one career interception. One can't put you that high

872
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: if you've only got one.

873
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 3: Who's going to be the highest ranked safety?

874
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: Twenty nine quinnin Williams. He was twenty eight last year.

875
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: Twenty eight is Chris Linstrom. He was fifty eight last year.

876
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: Hit the Falcons guard twenty seven. He was forty seven

877
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: last year. A j Brown with the Eagles at twenty six.

878
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: He was seventeen last year. Devonte Adams at twenty five.

879
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: He was nineteen last year. Broncos cornerback Patrick's Certain twenty four.

880
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: He was forty six last year. Tristram Wurfs with the Buccaneers.

881
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 2: Twenty three is Josh Allen. He was unranked last year.

882
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: Josh Allen with the Jaguars. Yeah, Josh Allah.

883
00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: The other Josh Allen right.

884
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: Twenty two is Fred Warner. He was thirty seven last year.

885
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: Twenty one.

886
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 3: What's Fred Warner?

887
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: Fred Warner the middle linebacker?

888
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: No, no, what was he ranked thirty seven? Line?

889
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: What is he this year twenty two?

890
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 3: He's the stud. Yeah, he's a study.

891
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 2: Twenty one. He was forty eight last year. A Ceede

892
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: Lamb at twenty he was twenty nine last year Aaron Rodgers.

893
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: Bit of a leap of faith there.

894
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: Leap of faith.

895
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 4: That's evil Knievel going over to the Grand Canyon. Although

896
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 4: I mean just because of how debilitating an injury that

897
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: well we talked about forty last show. He's such a

898
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 4: I mean, best thrower I've ever seen. Go back two spots,

899
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 4: two spots. Yeah, what do we have?

900
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 2: Fred Warner?

901
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: Fred Warner?

902
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 4: So I just quickly, you talk about sitting in a

903
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 4: room and comparing offensive lineman. You know you're voting for

904
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 4: the Football Hall of Fame. How do you compare this

905
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 4: offensive lineman to that tight end to this wide receiver.

906
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 4: I mean if Fred Warner, for me, if Fred Warner

907
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 4: was in the top ten, I would not bat an eye. No,

908
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 4: I would have I would not bat an eye. But

909
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 4: you know, just so Ceedee Lamb, great player, you know,

910
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 4: marquee position. I get all that, But if you had

911
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 4: Fred Warner out of CD Lamb again, I wouldn't bat

912
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 4: at No. I'm not no slight on Cede Lamb, who,

913
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 4: by the way, helped me in my fantasy teams.

914
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: Last. There you go, but Fred Warner is a great player.

915
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: Nineteen. He was thirty four last year's Dexter Lawrence with

916
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 2: the Giants. Eighteen. He was six last year. Travis Kelce seventeen.

917
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: He was sixty six last year. Pen A Sewel with

918
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: the Lions. Sixteen. He was number thirty five last year.

919
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson.

920
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 4: So, I remember when Sewell, when the Bengals were trying

921
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 4: to decide between Sewell and Chase, and I thought they

922
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 4: should have taken Sewel, and that felt like a very

923
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 4: very bad.

924
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: Take by me.

925
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 4: It still doesn't feel like a great take. But when

926
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 4: you need it, when you have a Burrow and you've

927
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 4: got a Sewel now as your left tackle, that'd be

928
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 4: a pretty good combination.

929
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: Fifteen He was three. Last year's Joe Burrow fourteen. Chris

930
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: Jones with the He was thirteen last year, so he

931
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: fell a spot. Thirteen is the aforementioned Jamar Chase. He

932
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: was sixteen last year. Fifteen he was or twelve. I'm

933
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: sorry he was fifteen last year. Sauce Gardner eleven. He

934
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: was thirty eight last year. Max Crosby. We're talking to

935
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: cream of the crop here now.

936
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: Yes, fair, Yeah, he.

937
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: Was four last year. This year he comes in at ten.

938
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: Is Nick Bosa. Nine he was number eight last year.

939
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: Is Micah Parsons. He was number twenty seven last year.

940
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 2: This year he is eight. That is Christian McCaffrey. Number seven,

941
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 2: holding steady where he was at last year. Is Justin

942
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: Jefferson number six he was number two last year. Is

943
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: Josh Allen of the Bills at number five. He was

944
00:46:54,760 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: number eleven last year. TJ watt Okay at four. He

945
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: was twelve last year. Tyreek Hill at three. He was

946
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: ten last year. Trent Williams with the forty nine ers

947
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: at two.

948
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett it was.

949
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: Five last year, Miles Garrett. And that leaves us with

950
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes once again being number one. Again. You're splitting

951
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: hairs here when you're talking about this. Those top ten guys, Yes,

952
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: could be in any order and nobody would beat it.

953
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 4: And Fred Warner could be in that top ten and

954
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 4: I wouldn't bat an eye on that either.

955
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: Let's get to a break that's going to do it

956
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 2: for our number one of the drive here on Steelers

957
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: Nation Radio. We'll be back with our number two right

958
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: after this