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Visit audible dot com, slash I 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: heart or text I Heeart to five hundred, five hundred. 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: My next guests is a renaissance man. I say that 29 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: because um, he can do it all. He's He's had 30 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: a thirteen year NBA career, a two time NBA All 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,279 Speaker 1: Store and record holder, independent movie mogul. He has several 32 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: companies sports and lifestyle and culture called Slick, their Black 33 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: Santa Company which I love, Business Land Inside the Game, 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: Business Inside the Game, called Big and No Label, each 35 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: with the objective of combining creative talent with the original 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: publication and production to develop and provide educational and heartwarming 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: stories that appeal to global audiences of all age used. 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: Please Welcome to Money Making Conversations Byron Davis thank you, guys. 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: I was running who you was talking about. I was 40 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: looking for that. You need to really need to stop backing. 41 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: Would I would just go back when we when we 42 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: first met many years ago, used to come up to 43 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: the Steve Hurry Morning Show. I was the producer. We 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: just we just we were chopping up back then when 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: you were doing those Magic Johns and All Star Games 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: back in the day. Man, I've always been a big 47 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: fan of yours. But one thing I wanted to say 48 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: about you is that I said renaissance man, And I 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: said that with with with a lot of uh what 50 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: I say, uh, pride, Because man, you've always from the 51 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: jump you kind of like you kind of like started 52 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: this little motion of for these athletes going out there 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: into entertainment. So I'm gonna give you credit, man, because 54 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: you jumped out there first, and because you you know 55 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: you you you You've had an amazing career. Because I 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: always tell people because I followed your career and unfortunately 57 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: it was filled with injuries, and but every time you 58 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: came back from an injury, you performed at a high level. 59 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: And I want to just out there right quick. Was 60 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: what was that motivation? Because a lot of times when 61 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: you get injured, you can just give up. You can 62 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: just say, hey, man, wow, I'm tired of this, but 63 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: you came back. Every time you came back. Man, you 64 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: was a bad man on that court. Explain to this 65 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: how did that happen? Burn Man? You know, I think 66 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: it's just from my upbringing, you know, uh, going up 67 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: and I'm chilling the sands and she got to survive, right, 68 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: And you know it's like it's now people are calling 69 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: it uh PTSD right. Uh. But I think that when 70 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: you go up in situations like you know, in the 71 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: n City, you just learning how to survive. And when 72 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: you're back against the wall, it's almost like you're so 73 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: used to that, you're so comfortable and familiar with that 74 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: that it just becomes the norm. And so for me, 75 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, every time I got injured, you know, I 76 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: always know I have my mind and you know, my 77 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: imagination and and will and you just don't realize how 78 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: much how much you can benefit from having you know, 79 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: great imagination, because that's really what it's driven you to 80 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: this point, away from basketball, getting into projects. How does 81 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: like say, I used the word independent mogul, you know 82 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: in the movie Game, How does want to bring an 83 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: idea to you because I'm sure you get you get, 84 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: you get addressed with this situation all the time. Somebody 85 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: got an idea, Hey man, all that needs some money 86 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: from you burn, come on mare and hook me up 87 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 1: a good job. Idea gonna make a millions of dollars? 88 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: What drives you in the creative platform? For me, it's 89 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: being creative. It's being a person who always asked people 90 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: for money. Hey man, let me get them let me 91 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: get some money to make a movie from you know 92 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: what what what drugs needs is? I think that there's 93 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: a an opportunity, sir and um, you know, to tell 94 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: great stories and stories about us, worries about you know, 95 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: how we um, who we are, what we do see 96 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: ourselves in different lives. Um, you know you're starting to 97 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: see a little bit. Black Panther was one. Um, you 98 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: know we got to get out and Moonlights. So you know, 99 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: there's always gonna renaissance of black cinema. And you know, 100 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: for me, just I want to be a historian, you know, 101 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: and be a part of that. And so creatively it's 102 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: just going back and you know, mining our culture. And 103 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: I gotta and I gotta thank you for that, for 104 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: making it happen, because you was out there when reality 105 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: Reality TV was the finding black culture. It really was 106 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: for a period there you know, we were fighting on TV, 107 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: was Argon on TV? We was, but you was out 108 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: there telling the real stories, finding real story stories that 109 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: we could we could hang our hat on, that we 110 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: can learn about ourselves. And to see that turning into 111 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: like you said, the Black Panthers, the Moonlighting, the Blackish, 112 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, the Steve Harvey brands, you know, the Michael 113 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: Michael Strahan's brand. These brands are very as they say, 114 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: general market brands. So it means that that that that 115 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: people are accepting our culture because of the fact that, 116 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, rapp has really played a major role in that. 117 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: We have to say that because because of the fact 118 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: that rap music, Uh, the same young people who grew 119 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: up on rap music were works accepting and so now 120 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: they're carrying that that mantle into the decision making. So 121 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure that that plays a major role in your 122 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: success to career. Absolutely, uh, you know, and I think 123 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: that you know what when we when we say us, 124 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's really about I supporting us. That's why 125 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: it ain't a lot of movies or TV shows things 126 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: like that. It's like we're always waiting for someone to 127 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: come and say the day for us, are waiting for 128 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, someone the green light of projects. And you know, 129 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm just you know, kind of enjoying being in this 130 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: renaissance because I know that, you know, just like you know, 131 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: the straight hands and the will packers, Michael B. Jordan's 132 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: all the great stuff. Come on, come on that I 133 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: do then, you know, and Byron David's come on that, 134 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: come on, come on, We're doing it. We're doing it. 135 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: But you know, for me, it's it's about once again, 136 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: just studying history and studying culture to say, okay, how 137 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: can I be the connective tissue two building? Uh you know, 138 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: uh an economy right. So that's why I'm playing all 139 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: over the place and film and TV and investments because 140 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: we need some economic institution. But you're not afraid. But 141 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: you're not afraid to be to be the personality. You 142 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: know when I see you on T and T, you know, 143 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, being being funny, being entertaining, being a person 144 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: knowing that's a role that you're playing because for a 145 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: check and but delivering information, I'm thinking it's a man, 146 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, Uh, this is the first thing we've ever 147 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: sat down to talk. But I've over they always been 148 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: impressed with your your versatility, and not just from an 149 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: athletics standpoint, because I always felt that you was beyond that, 150 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: because you always had an opinion when you were playing. 151 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: You know, you wasn't a guy just going to sit 152 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: over there and just go dribble the ball. You had 153 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: some thoughts, but you know, and you said your thoughts, 154 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of people didn't like that. 155 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: But I think that that what drives you today. If 156 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 1: you if you I want to bring you back. I 157 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: want to finish this interview if you can hold on 158 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: the phone, because I want to talk about some of 159 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: your more your more visionary things that you have planning. Man, 160 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: But thank you for getting on the call. I know 161 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: you had to get your kids off to school, and 162 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, brother, because I got a child and 163 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: that's what I would be too. We've been right back, 164 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: more money making conversations. He's still on the line. He's 165 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: a renaissance man. He had a thirteen year NBA career, 166 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: a two time NBA All Star. When the pressure was 167 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: on give him the ball. That's why I would see, 168 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: given the out the way, get out the way, Get 169 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: out the way, universe, here your guard. He come when 170 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: he was a point guard. So he just get away, 171 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: get away. I got this, I got this. He's an 172 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: amazing entrepreneur. In the call a movie a Moving Mogel. 173 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: When I met him, he was still playing back in 174 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: l a um even coming to the morning show booth 175 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey myself, I was the executive producer of the show, 176 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: and even though he was there for an athletic reason, 177 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: I alway knew it was something different about this guy 178 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: because he had an opinion and he didn't mind telling 179 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: you his opinion. And that's not a bad thing, because 180 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: I think in life you have to define who you are. 181 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: Because I always tell people what you what you do 182 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: in your twenties is what you're gonna be making money 183 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: in your forties and fifties. So he was defining them 184 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: back then and today he's on the car right now 185 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: to talk about a lot of the successes now Vitamin water, 186 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: my man, I've heard a lot of people make a 187 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: lot of money off that, but you were one of 188 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: the original investors. A lot of people followed you into 189 00:09:54,840 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: that water hunt sir, uh you know I got lucky man. 190 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: Stop stopping. Stop man at talking to people like him, 191 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: because I'm telling you something. See see, I saw him 192 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: when he was young. I saw him when he was young. Okay, 193 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: hoop was his main game, all right, but it was 194 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: something about he had the ability to communicate. He's very 195 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: personable and he is a thinker, you know what. You 196 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: have a look at people and you go they're thinking 197 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: about something that they're talking to me, but they're thinking 198 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: about something else. So he's very observant. And so so 199 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: when he said lucky, I don't buy that. I don't 200 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: buy that because he man, I need you need to 201 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: stop you go down you hey, because because the fact 202 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: that that's why I wanted you. I'm glad you took 203 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: time to be on the show. And I'm glad that 204 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: because it's individuals like you, because people see one side 205 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: of you. They see you know, social media post on you, 206 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: they see you on NBA. But I'm just telling you 207 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: this is not something just train of you've been or 208 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: what you're doing is not something automatic you've been. I 209 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: always tell Peo about magic and magic Johnson didn't drible 210 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: the basketball. He was going to be an entrepreneur. And 211 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: I said the same thing about that about you be 212 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: you were gonna be an entrepreneur. You're gonna be in 213 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: some creative lane of life. It just God gave you 214 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: a unique talent that was driven into basketball. You turned 215 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: it into a scholarship. You turned it into a thirteen 216 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: year NBA career, and you're making money and you enjoying it. 217 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: That's what money making. Conversations about balance lifestyle. You had 218 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: time for your children. That's balance lifestyle. Man, your special dude. 219 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: I will not let you leave this show not knowing 220 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: that from Rouhan McDonald. No, I appreciate that, man, I 221 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Sean uh I was saying, you're suggesting not 222 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: being a phrase itself, right right? You know, um the 223 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: vitamin want to deal that can? Because I was out 224 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: of my sprite deer. Uh I wanted to be my 225 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: own agent, and people thought I was crazy, But you 226 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: know I was also like, what is what is spride 227 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna do for me? You know ten years from now? Right? 228 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: You know, I'd rather be with it. I'd rather be 229 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: with a company nobody know about get less and you know, 230 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: work with the marketing team to help time blow it 231 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: up and uh so with vitamin water. It was when 232 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: the deal came and I was just like, hey man, 233 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm making enough money playing basketball. I'll take it in equity. 234 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: Super smart for a dummy kid. But it was like, 235 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, you take chances. Um, all right, I'm gonna 236 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: be my own agent at twenty years old. But I 237 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: need to step out of this business of what everything 238 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: is traditional and everything that I've heard and wanted from 239 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: my agent. I need to look. I need to look 240 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: outside his eyes and hang you from a business standpoint 241 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: and figure out how the bastard business around basketball. You know, 242 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: big shout out to Magic Johnson. And you know a 243 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: lot of the guys who were veteran guys in the 244 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: NBA at the time, you know, because they were, they 245 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: were always encouraging young people that, hey man, you don't 246 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: need an agent, you don't need this, you don't need that. 247 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: So it's just like if you learn from people who say, 248 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: especially your eldiness, you can create opportunities. And for me, 249 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: it was all about nobody's doing this, let me try 250 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: this right. As soon as somebody said no, it made 251 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: me work harder, study harder to prove them wrong. And 252 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: that's why you're a vitamin water mogul. Ever and everybody 253 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: following the met be doing that. I'm doing I'm doing 254 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: it too, just writing checks out there. Let me let 255 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: me the match you this now, you know, because you 256 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about technology and there's a there's a 257 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: huge gap that you that you want to make you're 258 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: trying to close. How are you playing a role in 259 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: closing the racial gap? Because I've always been a proponent 260 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: a person that says that, you know, we buy technology, 261 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, African Americans we buy smartphones, we buy we 262 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: buy Apple phones, you know, but sometimes we don't get 263 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: credit for that. We don't get credit for being technically savvy, 264 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: and we are. So how do you how do you? 265 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: How do you are you using your brand to close 266 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: that gap of information? Uh? For me, it's just about 267 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: you to right. You gotta hire, you gotta invest, you 268 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: gotta find the people who who are doing it. Um. 269 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: I was just visiting with a lady who's been in 270 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: for thirty five years in our last and she's been 271 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: she's been pushing technology for thirty five years, and now 272 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: it's finally out of place where people can well, we 273 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: can actually get some credit, right, But we have all 274 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: these pioneers, is, all these hidden figures throughout our history, 275 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: and we've just never embraced them. And now that everything 276 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: is a buzz word, right, it's almost like we always 277 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: think that we're late. Right, we're not late to technology 278 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: because technology is going to be the baseline of this world. 279 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: We just don't support and rally around our elders and 280 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: rally around the people that have done it and then 281 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: pay it back. And so for me, I think that 282 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, tech is tech is a it's a buzz word, 283 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: but it's something that you know, we should be teaching 284 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: our kids now, said a better on the iPad than 285 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: we are. So we should be teaching them how to code. 286 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: We should be teaching them how to design, right, we 287 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: should be putting them in design camps things like that. Um, 288 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, even if much as even when they play sports, 289 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: they got to take art, they gotta take a length 290 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to do something with that computer, right, 291 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: because the way the world is going and the way 292 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: the opportunity is, you know, you never know, you never 293 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: know what kid is gonna Once they learned how to code, 294 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: out of South Essential may wind up be a five 295 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: time off thing and code. Hey man, I'm gonna call 296 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: you professor now, your professor Davis. Professor Davis, because you 297 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: know you've got that little rhythm now right there be 298 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: you got that little rhythm. I win is he is 299 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: her teacher? Year is here, my professor, I felt like, 300 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: because my degree is in mathematics. So so I'm I 301 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: fight for for the for the knowledge that that I've 302 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: been able to obtain. My daughter, you know, she's a 303 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: she's in a freshman year and going to the second 304 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: year of college. But kind of good jineer that she 305 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: came to said, Dad, I don't like that. I want 306 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: to Can I go into gamification? I say, you can 307 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: do what you want to do, Okay, just just stay 308 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: in that lane of education and technology. And and she's 309 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: she's happy now. And when I hear you talk professor 310 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: professor Davis, you know, Professor David, but here talked. Man. 311 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: See what I'm gonna do, a money making conversation tour. 312 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do. It's gonna happen. I'm gonna 313 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: I have to invite you. Man, you gotta go. First 314 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: of all, you're gonna be funny, You're gonna be funny, okay, 315 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: and you and you go and you got money, that's key, 316 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: and you and you and you and you stop. You 317 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I got cause I'm looking because 318 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's interesting thing about it. Women are 319 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: so dominating the world, and especially the African American uh president, 320 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: because African American men are kind of like falling back, 321 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, where the women are the new stars. Afri 322 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: American women are the new stars of the militia time, 323 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: which is amazing. And so so I've been having trouble 324 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: finding that guy, man, Professor Davis Man. I gotta, I 325 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: gotta get you on that man, because because you are 326 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: you are you, you have done that journey and it's 327 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: still doing that journey and the fact that I love 328 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: the fact that you you got in that zone. You 329 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: were just talking about changing lives and a lot of 330 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: people don't understand that, man and your special dude. And 331 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: I won't say that. I'm not just saying that because 332 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: you're on my show. I've seen you uh way back 333 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: and two thousands played watching college basketball, watching you get drafted, 334 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: watching you play, watching you get back, and because when 335 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: you were playing those All Star games with Magic Johnson. 336 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: You didn't have to be there. That was your own 337 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: time because Magic was doing it for scholarships. So you've 338 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: not changed, my man. You just got a little bit older. 339 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: But you're a good looking older so that's all right 340 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: with me. But the thing is that you're building time 341 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: and you you invest in. But police don't ever say 342 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: you were lucky because you're a planner man. You're a thinker. Dude, 343 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: you are a thinker and you are a warner man. 344 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: So so be thank you for getting on my show. Man, 345 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: I know you said, Man, I don't I don't know 346 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: if you got with It was just a show, just 347 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: a testimonial show that he just wanted to tell me 348 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: I was great. Heck yeah, heck yeah, d he ya, 349 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: and you keep going. Hey man, stay strong and we 350 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: will talk soon. If you ever need me for anything, 351 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: contact my people. I will I will promote you. 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