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Speaker 1: here at One Jets Drive, joined by veteran tackle Dwayne Brown. Dwayne,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for coming up to the studio. Can
Speaker 1: you believe that you're about to approach your seventeenth NFL
Speaker 1: season now?
Speaker 2: Isn't it sixteenth? Yeah? Okay, I can't, man, I can't.
Speaker 2: I've talked about it a lot. Obviously, this team is
Speaker 2: a very young team, so a lot of a lot
Speaker 2: of players can't feath them being in the league sixteen years.
Speaker 2: And you know when I was drafted in you know,
Speaker 2: my first few years in the league, I would have
Speaker 2: never envisioned myself being able to play as long as
Speaker 2: been such a blessing.
Speaker 1: What was your one like for you? Because you actually
Speaker 1: met with the Jets last August? I remember the practice.
Speaker 1: It was green and white practice at MetLife Stadium. How
Speaker 1: did it all come together as far as why this
Speaker 1: was the landing.
Speaker 2: Place for you when I came here. You know, obviously
Speaker 2: it's a very talented roster. Coach Saal and I having
Speaker 2: some history. Uh, he was an assistant in Houston my
Speaker 2: first six years there, and we've always just kind of
Speaker 2: had a mutual respect for each other throughout our careers.
Speaker 2: And then obviously immediately after the visit, you know, Makai
Speaker 2: went down and so there was a i think an
Speaker 2: immediate need there. So you know, just kind of how
Speaker 2: it panned out, and you know, it was a you know,
Speaker 2: it was a it was a it was an interesting
Speaker 2: year for me, you know, obviously getting injured before the
Speaker 2: first game, you know, and and then having that adversity
Speaker 2: that I played through, but it was a it was
Speaker 2: a great journey. You know. It was my probably the
Speaker 2: youngest team that I've been on, a lot of talent,
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of hunger, you know, and
Speaker 2: we had some uh, you know, a lot of promise
Speaker 2: you know, throughout the and then you know, we didn't
Speaker 2: end quite like we wanted to, but it was it
Speaker 2: was just a good time seeing the the youth on
Speaker 2: his team and how everyone just kind of grew throughout
Speaker 2: the season, and just the camaraderie we had, you know.
Speaker 2: So it's a lowed to build on and obviously very
Speaker 2: encouraging going into this year.
Speaker 1: How frustrating was it for you because that first game
Speaker 1: that you played I think the preseason was against the
Speaker 1: Giants to performed well, and a couple of days later,
Speaker 1: we're hearing about Dwayne Brown he's got a shoulder injury.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was frustrated, man, And I've never been injured,
Speaker 2: you know, that early into a preseason, and I had
Speaker 2: set so many goals for myself and expectations for myself,
Speaker 2: and I wasn't quite sure how I was gonna it
Speaker 2: was gonna go after that, you know, And I'm just
Speaker 2: blessed I was able to take those first four games
Speaker 2: off and and and find a place physically where I
Speaker 2: felt like I could perform. And obviously, you know, I
Speaker 2: wasn't wasn't nearly near one hundred percent, you know, but
Speaker 2: I found a way to get out there and try
Speaker 2: to produce, you know, for the team. And you know,
Speaker 2: so it was frustrating at first, but the fact that
Speaker 2: I was able to go out there and contribute it
Speaker 2: made me glad.
Speaker 1: What went into the decision because when they take a
Speaker 1: look at the rotator cuff, are the doctors saying immediately saying, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: you have basically two options. You're gonna play with immense pain,
Speaker 1: or you can get this done and you're gonna come
Speaker 1: back one hundred percent, but you're gonna miss the entire season.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, those are the options they told me. You know,
Speaker 2: you get it, you get it fixed now, four month
Speaker 2: recovery and then you know you'll be able to make
Speaker 2: a full recovery and focus on next season, or take
Speaker 2: some time see how you can adjust with it, see
Speaker 2: how your strength holds up, and try to play through it.
Speaker 2: I've never missed a full season, you know, my career,
Speaker 2: and I didn't want that to be my introduction here,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So if I had a
Speaker 2: chance to play, you know, I took those first four
Speaker 2: weeks to see how I could have us see if
Speaker 2: I could you know, adjust my game and you know,
Speaker 2: try to to to fix some things, to see if
Speaker 2: I could still kind of be myself. I felt good
Speaker 2: with it, and I wasn't sure if I was able
Speaker 2: to play more than three or four games before I
Speaker 2: had to go under the knife anyway, But again, I'm
Speaker 2: blessed my body was able to get through uh every
Speaker 2: game but one at the end, you know, And and uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you said you felt good with it. What
Speaker 1: does feel good with it? I just mean because I
Speaker 1: got to imagine most people at home, if I if
Speaker 1: I had that injury, There's no way I'm playing through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean most of us that played this sport
Speaker 2: a little, a little screwed up anyway, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, most people would not play through that injury.
Speaker 2: You know, I practiced. I did some some practice reps
Speaker 2: where I just wanted to see if I could. If
Speaker 2: I felt like I was a liability, then I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be out there. If I felt like I could get
Speaker 2: my job done and and do what I needed to do,
Speaker 2: then I would go out there and do it. You know.
Speaker 2: So some practice reps away from the team, some practice
Speaker 2: reps with the team, and I felt like I was okay,
Speaker 2: and you know it. You know again, I wasn't nearly
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, you know. So I produced not quite
Speaker 2: at the level I'm accustomed to, but I was able
Speaker 2: to not be a liability, and that was that was
Speaker 2: my thought process.
Speaker 1: Technique wise, hands, arms are so important as far as
Speaker 1: playing the position you do. Tackle wise, what did you
Speaker 1: have to do? What did you have to change up
Speaker 1: in order to still play at a level where you're producer?
Speaker 2: Just making sure I moved my feet for one to
Speaker 2: be in position to able to not have to over
Speaker 2: extend that arm. Other than that, just keeping as much
Speaker 2: strength around it as possible. You know, when you get
Speaker 2: that injury, if you the longer you don't work it
Speaker 2: as much, you know, those muscles just kind of die down,
Speaker 2: and that's when the injury really kind of, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: sets in. You know, so I just try to keep
Speaker 2: it as strong as possible around and luckily, I'm a
Speaker 2: pretty strong guy. So you know, it was evident that
Speaker 2: it was injured, but the strength still remain and so that,
Speaker 2: you know, that was basically it.
Speaker 1: What did it mean to you? At the end of
Speaker 1: the year, the Jets created a new award, your head
Speaker 1: coach created a new award, Robert Salah Selfless Warrior, and
Speaker 1: you were the recipient.
Speaker 2: It meant a lot. You know. I was very humble
Speaker 2: bout that that gesture because it wasn't easy. It wasn't
Speaker 2: easy to make that decision, It wasn't easy to go
Speaker 2: out there a week to week with that, and I
Speaker 2: you know, I think they really appreciated that, and so
Speaker 2: I was, like I said, I was very humble about
Speaker 2: that and appreciative.
Speaker 1: What keeps you going right now? Because a lot of guys,
Speaker 1: after having a career that you've had to this point,
Speaker 1: might say, hey, listen, I put it online every Sunday
Speaker 1: for a number of years. Now you're approaching your sixteen.
Speaker 1: What keeps you going?
Speaker 2: I still have the ability to play at a high level,
Speaker 2: and I want to win. I want to win. I've
Speaker 2: accomplished everything that you can accomplish, uh, individually, and we've
Speaker 2: had some some some team success, but I want to
Speaker 2: win it all, you know. So I want to do
Speaker 2: everything I can to be the best version of myself
Speaker 2: at this point in my career and be a healthier
Speaker 2: version of myself this year, to go out and and
Speaker 2: and help my team win. And I think we have
Speaker 2: the roster to go out and win it all.
Speaker 1: Can you talk about some of your memorable runs so
Speaker 1: far in the National Football League? What stands out to you?
Speaker 2: I mean, individually, you know, I think, you know again,
Speaker 2: I got drafted in O. Eight and it's a long
Speaker 2: time ago. Started out my first couple of years kind
Speaker 2: of raw at the position, and then you know, from there,
Speaker 2: you know, I've been able to be you know, uh,
Speaker 2: one of the better tackles in the league for a while.
Speaker 2: Started out in Houston, and uh we have. We we
Speaker 2: won our division quite a few times, made it to
Speaker 2: the playoffs, just couldn't get past New England during their
Speaker 2: incredible run they had. You know, that was unfortunate that
Speaker 2: I just you know, I had to be a part
Speaker 2: of that. Then went to Seattle, you know, and we
Speaker 2: had a really good team there, made it to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: We never made it past the second round. So I've
Speaker 2: made it to the playoffs a number of times, you know,
Speaker 2: but I've never been and you know, I haven't been
Speaker 2: to a conference championship game, never been to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: And again, I think coming in here last year and
Speaker 2: seeing what we had to build on a lot of
Speaker 2: young players that played at a high level that I
Speaker 2: think will take another step this year. Obviously, you had
Speaker 2: a guy like Aaron Rodgers to the roster that immediately
Speaker 2: puts you in contention. I mean, he's someone that he's
Speaker 2: one of the best of all time, and you know,
Speaker 2: to be a part of this team now is it's
Speaker 2: a great shot, you know what I mean. So I'm
Speaker 2: very more motivated than ever.
Speaker 1: What changes in the playoffs that second season, and do
Speaker 1: you talk to the young guys about that, Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: in order to do that, you got to take care
Speaker 1: of today. But this is what you could do.
Speaker 2: I think it's just a week to week thing, you know.
Speaker 2: I think last year, you know, we had some games
Speaker 2: where we were very dominant, and then we had some
Speaker 2: games where we just kind of left some some players
Speaker 2: out there. And it's just a laser like focus, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, every week, every play, practicing with intention,
Speaker 2: all of those things, you know, And I think, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just that's just that's just kind of the gist
Speaker 2: of it. Again, we have the roster to get it done,
Speaker 2: but you know it's not gonna be easy. We have
Speaker 2: a very tough division, we have a very tough you
Speaker 2: know schedule. You know, the league is tough. So it's
Speaker 2: just I think, I think just practicing and approaching every
Speaker 2: day with the intention of a getting one percent better
Speaker 2: and and uh and I think it all add up.
Speaker 1: That's something that Aaron Rodgers has discussed recently. Intentionality, having
Speaker 1: that every day, every practice. When you guys speak in
Speaker 1: terms of veterans speak, what does that mean?
Speaker 2: Uh, finding something you want to work on, you know,
Speaker 2: every day. I think, no matter how many years you've
Speaker 2: been in this league. Uh, no one has it completely mastered.
Speaker 2: So if you have one thing as a as aligneman,
Speaker 2: as a receiver, as a dB, that one thing that
Speaker 2: you feel like is a weakness of yours that you
Speaker 2: want to work on, you know, get better at that
Speaker 2: thing today until it becomes second nature when it comes
Speaker 2: to you know, an offense, we have a new offense,
Speaker 2: learning the offense like it's you know, the back of
Speaker 2: your hand, you know, and so you don't have to
Speaker 2: go up and think about a million things and it
Speaker 2: just becomes second nature. Obviously, this team is a very
Speaker 2: competitive roster, so you're going to have really good work
Speaker 2: that you can get from day to day. Whether it's
Speaker 2: the old line going against the D line, our receiver
Speaker 2: group going against our dbs, it's going to be a
Speaker 2: lot of competitive practices. So it's that's a that's a
Speaker 2: blessing to have, you know, where you know you can
Speaker 2: have that kind of matchup that can make you better.
Speaker 2: You know, So meetings, you know, sitting meetings, you know,
Speaker 2: you're not just trying to get through it, You're trying
Speaker 2: to actually go in there learn, you know, be interactive,
Speaker 2: you know, and me things like that.
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Speaker 1: What kind of questions does offensive line have to answer
Speaker 1: this year?
Speaker 2: We have we have to dominate, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Obviously last year we dealt with a lot of injuries,
Speaker 2: you know, and we took uh. I think you know,
Speaker 2: there was some criticism about our production. We have a
Speaker 2: very very good group, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 2: I think uh coach Carter is also a really good coach.
Speaker 2: Is coming in with the mindset of of dominating with
Speaker 2: the mindset of uh being the reason that you know,
Speaker 2: we succeed. You know, so the work is being put
Speaker 2: in early. You know, I can tell you that, you
Speaker 2: know from just these OTAs, you know, it's a god's
Speaker 2: working really hard, you know. So we just got to individually,
Speaker 2: you know, be the best version of ourselves and as
Speaker 2: a collective, I think we'll be really good.
Speaker 1: We were talking before about the guy back then being
Speaker 1: from Richmond as well. We've seen from him on social
Speaker 1: media how he's transformed his body as a guy who's
Speaker 1: sitting in there in the meetings with him and out
Speaker 1: there on the field during OTAs throughout this off season process.
Speaker 1: What have you seen from Makai here?
Speaker 2: He's working hard and obviously you know, I've been in
Speaker 2: the building throughout the off season seeing the transformation, you know,
Speaker 2: and he's working hard. Man. You know, he's a really big,
Speaker 2: talented individual, and so he has the right mentality to
Speaker 2: have the best season of his career, you know. So
Speaker 2: it's great to see. You know, I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: Does he watch you from afar? Will he get in
Speaker 1: your ear? Because you've had so many experiences in the
Speaker 1: National Football League as far as not just schematically, but
Speaker 1: guys you're going against and how pass rushers are coming
Speaker 1: at you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we communicate. We communicate during the season. Last year,
Speaker 2: you know, he was on our so you know, he
Speaker 2: wasn't around the building as much. But this off season
Speaker 2: we definitely commune k more and I'm sure you know,
Speaker 2: our relationship will grow more throughout this season. But you know,
Speaker 2: he asked questions, you know, and I'm learning from him
Speaker 2: as well, you know, so again I got nothing but
Speaker 2: respect and and appreciation for the work that he's put
Speaker 2: in and looking for big things from him.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the tackle group as a
Speaker 1: whole when you're talking about yourself and back then and
Speaker 1: Max Mitchell and pressed early on in his rookie year
Speaker 1: last year he had Billy Turner into the mix, a
Speaker 1: guy is very familiar with the scheme. And then and
Speaker 1: then he added to the equation today, was that last
Speaker 1: part you added to the equation?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, very very good group, very good mixture of
Speaker 2: veteran guys and some young guys, a lot of ability.
Speaker 2: I think this God's a limit you know as all
Speaker 2: as well. You know, everyone's healthy, you know, I think
Speaker 2: we'll really be able to you know, see what we have.
Speaker 1: Does it feel like yesterday when you were coming in
Speaker 1: or do you feel like the years As far as
Speaker 1: when you watch a guy like Carter Warren walk in
Speaker 1: the door from Pittsburgh and he's bright eyed and he's
Speaker 1: just it's just getting that playbook for the first time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it can be a whirlwind, man. It's you know,
Speaker 2: you come in and you know, you go from your
Speaker 2: college scheme and and everything just a bit faster. You know.
Speaker 2: The meetings are a lot more intense. You get a
Speaker 2: lot of questions thrown at you, you know, and then
Speaker 2: you go to the practice field and everything is just
Speaker 2: a lot of pre snap terminology, you know, and things
Speaker 2: like that, and you have to really think quick. So
Speaker 2: it can be a whirlwind. So this time of year
Speaker 2: is really crucial for the young guys where they can
Speaker 2: just kind of hone in on things, you know, before
Speaker 2: training camps. Once training camp starts, it speeds up even more.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to help him as much as possible
Speaker 2: for any questions he has.
Speaker 1: Schematically what changes Now, this is a similar offense, but
Speaker 1: it's different. In Nathaniel Hackett, the offense is play caller
Speaker 1: of course, and then you have a new coach, like
Speaker 1: you mentioned before in Keith.
Speaker 2: Carter, some similarities, but a lot of adjustments as well,
Speaker 2: you know, without I don't want to talk about it
Speaker 2: too much, but uh, you know, just a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of free snap adjustments can be made, you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of audibles and things like that that I
Speaker 2: think we're really throw defenses off. So a lot of
Speaker 2: movements things like that. So but it's there's some similarities
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Everybody's raved about Hackett is a teacher. Do you like
Speaker 1: the way he approaches you?
Speaker 2: Guys? Absolutely? Absolutely. He's a great teacher, a great football
Speaker 2: mind then a great personality as well.
Speaker 1: And he keeps things fresh in the room, that's what says, right,
Speaker 1: keeps it light. Can he give any examples?
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, he just just likes the joke, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And that's always good, you know,
Speaker 2: I think you know, obviously, you do this stuff day
Speaker 2: to day. Having someone that's not just trying to teach
Speaker 2: but also can crack jokes and don't take themselves with
Speaker 2: things too serious at times can help.
Speaker 1: You know, anything can happen in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: But what was your reaction throughout the off season, as
Speaker 1: the chatter about Rogers continued, and then we got to
Speaker 1: a point in March where he's on Pat McAfee and
Speaker 1: he says, hey, my intention is not only playing in
Speaker 1: the NFL, but it's to play with the Jets.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when when when the rumors first started,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously you know you hope for it. You know,
Speaker 2: that's a first ballot Hall of Famer, you know, and
Speaker 2: someone that is still playing at an extremely high level,
Speaker 2: somebody I've had a lot of respect for, I mean
Speaker 2: all the respect for my whole career. So you don't
Speaker 2: know how much truth there is to it, you know,
Speaker 2: and then the things just start heating up, and then
Speaker 2: when it's finally verbalized, you just all right, let's go,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean again, I I've always been
Speaker 2: you know, motivated to to come back and have you know,
Speaker 2: a great season. But again, you know I said, you added,
Speaker 2: you plug him to this roster, and now it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, you have you have a shot of things,
Speaker 2: you know, so you know, I can't say enough about it,
Speaker 2: you know, and outside of just his plan ability, just
Speaker 2: his presence, it does so much. You know, he's a
Speaker 2: really good dude. He also someone that keeps things like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, a really good locker room guy. So great
Speaker 2: to have him.
Speaker 1: Is this surreal for you even though you've been in
Speaker 1: the league for so long that now he's lining up
Speaker 1: with you guys. And what's it been like on the
Speaker 1: practice field?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been surreal. It's been surreal, and you know,
Speaker 2: just conversations, It's not something I would have been able
Speaker 2: to fathom, you know, a few years ago or even
Speaker 2: last year, you know what i mean. Obviously I'm not
Speaker 2: out there practicing yet, but just the conversations we've had
Speaker 2: has been it's been great, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And I'm just you know, picking his brain about some stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm learning the offense as well and
Speaker 2: kind of how he sees things. And it's been really
Speaker 2: good combos.
Speaker 1: Seenior extension of the coaching staff, like you're talking about
Speaker 1: the meetings hundred percent. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got a great, great handle and control of everything.
Speaker 1: And how huge has it been for everybody that he
Speaker 1: not only is said, hey, I want to be a
Speaker 1: Jet and will be part of this thing, but he
Speaker 1: has actually been here throughout the off season.
Speaker 2: It's big, it's big, you know, and I think you know,
Speaker 2: having having everyone here and and when you have a
Speaker 2: new offense, obviously you want everyone to to learn it.
Speaker 2: But like you know, we'll we'll be in our meetings
Speaker 2: and he'll pop in there for five to ten minutes
Speaker 2: and just start talking about some stuff and then it's
Speaker 2: like okay, you kind of get a feel for where
Speaker 2: how he's seeing things, and and then you translate that
Speaker 2: to the field. It'll just make things that much easier
Speaker 2: on Sundays, you know, when things are hectic you can
Speaker 2: barely hear. You just kind of get that, you just
Speaker 2: kind of get you kind of geled like that and
Speaker 2: and get that that chemistry you know, so it's it's
Speaker 2: really good time you It's.
Speaker 1: That an extremely personal relationship. You got to have a
Speaker 1: with a guy like that. He's your signal caller, but
Speaker 1: you're his blind side protector. That's the only position you've
Speaker 1: known since he walked into the National Football League, but
Speaker 1: now potentially blindside protector for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes, you got to have that relationship. You
Speaker 2: got to have a bond there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's like family, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. He has all to have to have. He
Speaker 2: has to have all the trust in the world in
Speaker 2: you when he drops back that he can sit comfortably
Speaker 2: and not worry about getting hit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And uh, so it's yeah, it's a it's a very
Speaker 2: deep bond you gotta have.
Speaker 1: From a player's perspective, what does this guy bring to
Speaker 1: the table physically, because you're speaking about intangibles and also
Speaker 1: obviously that leadership that he has that he exudes, and
Speaker 1: also the presence, but physically what does he bring?
Speaker 2: I mean, I've played against him a number of times
Speaker 2: in my career, and uh it's never been easy, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Again, you never feel like I
Speaker 2: mean you see the throws he makes, you see, you
Speaker 2: never feel like you're out of a game with him there.
Speaker 2: He can make every throw at every angle. He can
Speaker 2: just improvise, you know what I mean. You know it's
Speaker 2: it's it's surreal, you know what I mean. Ability he has.
Speaker 2: You know, some people will argue he's the most talented
Speaker 2: quarterback ever, you know what I mean. And so I said,
Speaker 2: I've played against some a number of times and it's
Speaker 2: like sometimes like watching a John Metton game where you
Speaker 2: just can't believe the dots that he can throw, you know,
Speaker 2: with perfect coverage. So yeah, that's about my breakdown.
Speaker 1: How fun was it last year? Obviously you get hurt,
Speaker 1: but he come back in week four and you guys
Speaker 1: explode out of the gate. You take the NFL by surprise.
Speaker 1: I think that game in Denver where you guys end
Speaker 1: up winning sixteen to nine. Elijah Verita or Bresee Hall
Speaker 1: go down unfortunately. But you move to five and two
Speaker 1: and then I think the high water moment for this
Speaker 1: team in twenty twenty two was beating the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: at home and you had the chance to make the
Speaker 1: postseason starting at seven and four. Did you anticipate it
Speaker 1: all coming together that quickly? Was there a point early
Speaker 1: in the season where you're like, well, I thought we compete,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know we'd be here at this point.
Speaker 2: I mean, as a as a competitor, you always feel
Speaker 2: like that. You go into every game feeling like you
Speaker 2: got a chance to win, you know. I mean, you
Speaker 2: could do your scouting reports, you look at your film,
Speaker 2: and you feel like you know where you have good
Speaker 2: matchups and things like that. But we also know how
Speaker 2: talented this division is and Buffalo is. You know, obviously
Speaker 2: they're one of the top contenders in the league. But
Speaker 2: as the game goes on, you know, you get the
Speaker 2: first series and you feel like, all right, like this,
Speaker 2: we can control this thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: To string those together a week to week it's not easy.
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, when you have a young team,
Speaker 2: you know, it's again it's hard to have that laser
Speaker 2: like focus. You know, we were able to do that.
Speaker 2: It wasn't surprising because again, I know, the kind of
Speaker 2: talent is roster highs, it's good. Coaching staff work extremely hard,
Speaker 2: so you always feel like you have the chance to
Speaker 2: do it. But yeah, we had a heck of a run,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Just got to find a
Speaker 2: way to finish, you know what I mean the last
Speaker 2: few weeks of the season when we had a chance
Speaker 2: to win one or two games and be set. You know,
Speaker 2: we just got to find a way to finish. And
Speaker 2: I think we'll do that this year.
Speaker 1: How much do you appreciate what av T did last year?
Speaker 2: He's a ball man and I couldn't speak any higher
Speaker 2: of them last year. You know, it's not easy to
Speaker 2: make those moves that he made. You know, to move
Speaker 2: from He's a he's an all pro right guard, you know,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, and you make that move to he
Speaker 2: went the right tackle first, not even the left tackle,
Speaker 2: but to move from right guard to left tackle, it
Speaker 2: is like it's like shooting basketball, you know, with right
Speaker 2: handed and being asked to shoot left handed. It's not easy.
Speaker 2: And he went out there and produced at a high level,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But he's a he's a
Speaker 2: heck of a player. He's somebody that you know, is
Speaker 2: very quiet, just goes about his business, works hard, and
Speaker 2: he's a he's a special player, you know. And I'm
Speaker 2: glad to have him in our room.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's got an old school mentality?
Speaker 2: Again, he's quiet, he doesn't talk much, but he you know,
Speaker 2: people know not not to mess with him too much.
Speaker 2: On Sundays, he's gonna, you know, dominate h He's going
Speaker 2: to finish blocks, you know what I mean. He's downfield
Speaker 2: running and fifty yards. He has fun with it, you know.
Speaker 2: Really good dude to have.
Speaker 1: But why was he able to excel at both tackling guard?
Speaker 2: Because he's a freak athlete. Man. For one, I can
Speaker 2: consider myself to be a really good athlete, and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good straight ahead speed. And I got here
Speaker 2: and we were doing workouts and I was trying to
Speaker 2: show off my speed and I took off on and
Speaker 2: then he's just like five yards ahead of me, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, okay, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So he's a he's a really good athlete, exceptional and
Speaker 2: so you know, when you have that kind of athleticism,
Speaker 2: it's it's easier to make the transition. But you know
Speaker 2: that's you know, and he just he had the whatever mentality,
Speaker 2: like Okay, I don't think it was an easy decision
Speaker 2: at first for him to make that move, especially when
Speaker 2: you get so good at one spot. But once he
Speaker 2: said all right, you know, I'll do it. You know,
Speaker 2: he just went out there and handle it.
Speaker 1: You guys had a center in the second round and
Speaker 1: Joe Tipman from Wisconsin. What do you think about the mullet?
Speaker 2: Uh? You know, if you rock that, you gotta you
Speaker 2: gotta be a baller.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: So far he's doing pretty good, you know, so looking
Speaker 2: forward to seeing what he got And.
Speaker 1: Not a bad place to come, right if you're if
Speaker 1: you're obviously you're gonna be competing with a number of guys,
Speaker 1: including Connor McGovern of course, but to have a future
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, a four time NFL MVP there to
Speaker 1: help you, it's got to be a great land the spot.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. You're going to learn the game at
Speaker 2: a much quicker level than than most centers will. And
Speaker 2: we're able to communicate, you know, what you're seeing, what
Speaker 2: he's seeing. Uh, he's coming to a great spot.
Speaker 1: Take us back to Houston, Robert Salad being an assistant
Speaker 1: when he broke into the league. What was he like then?
Speaker 1: What's the differences and what are the similarities?
Speaker 2: Now? Obviously he wasn't you know, he's quieter, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, And you know, I think, you know,
Speaker 2: like he was learning a lot, you know, at the time.
Speaker 2: But again I always had a lot of respect for him.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: When I left there and went to Seattle, he was
Speaker 2: a d C in San Francisco, and so after every
Speaker 2: game I would see him, you know, we just talk
Speaker 2: a little bit. Uh. And so when I saw him
Speaker 2: get this job, I was so happy for him because
Speaker 2: I knew how much, you know, he had rose to
Speaker 2: the ranks and had to work to get there. So
Speaker 2: when I had the chance to come here. We were
Speaker 2: just you know, reminiscing about those about those twelve, thirteen,
Speaker 2: fourteen years ago. And so you know, he's a leader
Speaker 2: of men, you know. I think he's really coming to
Speaker 2: his own as far as you know, how to teach
Speaker 2: his philosophy, and guys had bought into it. Everyone plays
Speaker 2: extremely hard for him, and that's all you can ask for.
Speaker 1: Why is he so effective with players?
Speaker 2: I think he's transparent. You know, he tells you exactly
Speaker 2: how he feels. He keeps his door open for any
Speaker 2: feedback if you know, any guys have something they want
Speaker 2: to talk to him about. He works you hard, but
Speaker 2: he also knows you know when when to give you know,
Speaker 2: give guys some time off, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He has fun with it. He makes the comp petition
Speaker 2: of it all fun. Uh, and then on game days
Speaker 2: he's uh, he's excited, you know what I mean. He
Speaker 2: shows a lot of emotion on game day. And so
Speaker 2: it's a good guy to play for.
Speaker 1: Man, do you see similarities and the influence from Pete Carroll?
Speaker 1: Because you're talking about the competition and having fun with it,
Speaker 1: And when I think of Pete, I think about having
Speaker 1: fun with it, and also the competition periods that he's
Speaker 1: been known for for forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the emphasis on practice and the competition of practice
Speaker 2: is definitely there. Yeah, keep it. We do thing like
Speaker 2: kind of keep score of kind of the defense versus
Speaker 2: the offense, things like that, you know, to keep guys
Speaker 2: honest and and and make you want to go out
Speaker 2: there and make more plays. That that definitely is something similar.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So it takes me inside the meeting room, inside the
Speaker 1: auditorium in the regular season. As far as some memorable
Speaker 1: shooting competitions, because you guys got the basketball hoop in there,
Speaker 1: sometimes they call a coordinator up or players or whatnot.
Speaker 1: What were some of the more memorable duels in there?
Speaker 2: Uh, you're talking here. Yes, I don't know if anything
Speaker 2: was that memorable. I know I'm not good at it
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 1: Did you get called up there last year?
Speaker 2: I didn't last well, I hadn't. They didn't. They didn't
Speaker 2: want me to.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if you're gonna go left handed.
Speaker 2: They didn't want me to do anything with my shoulders. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: So I can't remember any memorable ones. But it's always
Speaker 2: fun when it happens, you know, it breaks up the
Speaker 2: day to day, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean, Karl Wilson probably drained them.
Speaker 2: Gary, I mean, I honestly can't remember. I can't remember
Speaker 2: who we went against. I can't remember. Honestly.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been part of a group going back
Speaker 1: to what you saw from last year's rookie class.
Speaker 2: I haven't, I haven't. It was impressive, man. Obviously you
Speaker 2: get to the offensive rookie year and the defensive rookie
Speaker 2: year on the same team. Breese, you know, before he
Speaker 2: was injured, he was one of the top backs in
Speaker 2: the league. Jermaine Michael Clemens, like everyone produced. You know,
Speaker 2: you rarely have to ask for Kis to come in
Speaker 2: and be the guy at that position, you know. And
Speaker 2: then they did it, and they they took it around
Speaker 2: with it, you know what I mean. It was really
Speaker 2: impressive to see. And all of them have a very
Speaker 2: humble demeanor about him, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 2: it was really really great to witness.
Speaker 1: Can you speak to the philosophy that Tsala has as
Speaker 1: far as on the defensive side of the ball, He's
Speaker 1: dressing ten defensive lineman. He likes to come at you
Speaker 1: in waves. What kind of pressure that actually puts on
Speaker 1: the opposition tackles when they're facing fresh guys who are
Speaker 1: coming in out of the game and then it's the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. How difficult is that for you as a
Speaker 1: tackle when you're facing the defense like that.
Speaker 2: It's tough. It's tough some teams. You know, if you
Speaker 2: have a really guy at the defensive imposition and they
Speaker 2: want him out there for seventy percent of the snaps,
Speaker 2: there could be some plays that he takes off because
Speaker 2: you know he has to be out there, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. And so if you have a ten
Speaker 2: play drive, by the seventh eighth play, you know he's
Speaker 2: gonna you know, he's gonna not look quite like he
Speaker 2: did in the first couple of plays. If you have
Speaker 2: a guy that knows he's going to be out there
Speaker 2: for three plays, he's given the max effort possible, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And then once he comes out,
Speaker 2: the next guy that comes in, there's not much of
Speaker 2: a drop off, if any on the talent. And then
Speaker 2: he knows he's gonna get two plays, so he's going
Speaker 2: as hard as he can, you know, and then he's out,
Speaker 2: and then there's the other guy's coming back in. It's
Speaker 2: like and so it puts a lot of pressure on you.
Speaker 2: And again I said, it's not only that there's so
Speaker 2: many of them, but they're so they're really good. All
Speaker 2: of them are good, you know, and so definitely gonna
Speaker 2: be a lot of pressure on offensive lineman when you
Speaker 2: have a rotation of guys that can play at high level.
Speaker 1: Do you go back flashbacks to Seattle or what you
Speaker 1: were facing with those San Francisco lines over the years
Speaker 1: when you're watching these guys come together.
Speaker 2: Now and yeah, And I actually talked to him about
Speaker 2: it whenever we would play against those guys. I would
Speaker 2: talk to Solid about it after the game. You got
Speaker 2: a good group over there, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I tell him, you got a good group over there. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: the philosophy has definitely rolled, you know, rolled over here.
Speaker 2: And you know he has a specific type of defensive
Speaker 2: end or defense the tackle that he likes and you
Speaker 2: can see the similarities.
Speaker 1: What do you think about playing in New York? And
Speaker 1: how about your interactions with the fan base because this
Speaker 1: is a hungry group now, Yeah, and you're speaking to
Speaker 1: how bad you want a championship. I know you've heard
Speaker 1: from a lot of fans who are I ca win
Speaker 1: those same sentiments.
Speaker 2: You know, it was amazing the opportunity to come here
Speaker 2: and play initially, you know, it was it was great
Speaker 2: to think about. You know, I never played on the
Speaker 2: East Coast, and I know how hungry the New York
Speaker 2: Jets fan base is to win. It's been so long since,
Speaker 2: you know, we've won the division, been so long since
Speaker 2: we've been to the playoffs, and so everyone's excited, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. When I signed here, like so
Speaker 2: many people will hit me up on social media. People
Speaker 2: around town, you know, just told me how excited they were.
Speaker 2: And you can see it. You know when we when
Speaker 2: we had those that stretch, you know, you can see
Speaker 2: met Life was rocking, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: the potential was there. You know, it's just on us
Speaker 2: to get it done, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 2: we know, we know the excitement is there even more
Speaker 2: this year, and we know, you know, if we went here,
Speaker 2: we already know what to expect, like even just seeing
Speaker 2: like the Knicks, you know, you watch the Knicks, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, in the run they had like
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, we're gonna get met Life rocking
Speaker 2: this year. I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: How excited are you for this season in particular compared
Speaker 1: to everyone previous, because it does have a different feel,
Speaker 1: right that you guys were building something last year and
Speaker 1: now Rogers walks into the door and it's kind of
Speaker 1: like all coming together.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm the most excited man. Uh, you know, just
Speaker 2: for me individually? Again, Uh, I was, I was. I
Speaker 2: was glad I was able to perform last year, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? But I wasn't I wasn't healthy,
Speaker 2: you know, So being able to be a healthier version
Speaker 2: of myself, I've a higher expectation, you know, for myself
Speaker 2: in particular, but as a as a group, you know,
Speaker 2: you can't ask for a better group, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And uh, just the environment, the atmosphere that
Speaker 2: we have right now. No one's expecting to go out
Speaker 2: to go and just be you know, mediocre. Everyone's expecting
Speaker 2: to go out and be elite, and so you can
Speaker 2: just feel the vibe, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 2: so it's, uh, it's something that you know, I cherish
Speaker 2: and I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 1: Do you think the group likes having these expectations? Is
Speaker 1: this what it's all about? Hey, you're supposed to be
Speaker 1: good we want people to think that, hey, listen, we're contender.
Speaker 1: And also you've talked about the DNA of this group,
Speaker 1: these young guys, how do you think they're going to
Speaker 1: handle the increased weight from the outside.
Speaker 2: Pressure is a privilege, man, when you when you when
Speaker 2: you have pressure on you to be great, that's a
Speaker 2: that's a privileged position to be in when people don't
Speaker 2: expect much from you. No one wants that. No one
Speaker 2: wants to be that guy where they say if you
Speaker 2: go eight and eight ninety seven, that's that's that's good.
Speaker 2: No one wants that, you know what I mean. Everyone
Speaker 2: wants to be in a position where people expect you
Speaker 2: to win. And I don't think any of us put
Speaker 2: more pressure. Anyone can put more pressure on us than
Speaker 2: we put than we put on ourselves individually. And so
Speaker 2: you work, you work that hard every day, you know,
Speaker 2: to go out and be the best version of yourself
Speaker 2: and to fulfill that. You know. So it's a great
Speaker 2: position to be in, and I think the young guys
Speaker 2: will definitely respond.
Speaker 1: Do you think people are sleeping on you personally? Because
Speaker 1: when they look at the Jets tackle position and what
Speaker 1: you did last year, I don't think you get enough
Speaker 1: credit for what you actually put out there on film,
Speaker 1: playing essentially with one arm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, for sure. I see some of
Speaker 2: the stuff that comes across or you know, everyone's concerned
Speaker 2: about the tax position, and you know, I don't take
Speaker 2: none of that stuff personally.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm very confident in who I am as
Speaker 2: a player. Again, I don't no one can put more
Speaker 2: pressure on me on my than I can on myself.
Speaker 2: So you know, it's fine if they're sleeping. I got
Speaker 2: to respect here, you know what I mean. My peers
Speaker 2: respect me. The gods that I went against with one arm.
Speaker 2: They respect what I did, you know. So, and I
Speaker 2: know I'll be better this year. So it is what
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: What do you have planned ahead for the summer before
Speaker 1: you get back here, because you guys are starting early
Speaker 1: this year with that All Fame Game one of the
Speaker 1: first two teams to report with Cleveland.
Speaker 2: I'm working, man, I'm working. I'm trying to get healthy,
Speaker 2: you know. So I'm working to be as healthy as
Speaker 2: I can to be available, you know. So you know,
Speaker 2: I obviously probably have a weekend here or there, but
Speaker 2: nothing major. I'll continue to work and be ready to.
Speaker 1: Go and how do you feel about where you're at
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: I feel great, I feel great
Speaker 1: Good things I have absolutely Thanks Joy, thanks for having
Speaker 1: me on