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Speaker 1: thought that Cowboy game earlier in the year was one

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Speaker 1: of the craziest games I ever saw.

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Speaker 2: Well we got one beat.

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Speaker 1: Just a few weeks later, the New York Giants figure

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Speaker 1: out a way to lose to the Denver Broncos thirty

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Speaker 1: three to thirty two, despite leading twenty six to eight.

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Speaker 2: With about ten minutes to go in this ballgame.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna lead off here, Tiki Tiki, Barbara John

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Speaker 1: Schmalk with you on Giants extra Point, a team loss.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: You can talk about the Jackson Dart interception. You can

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Speaker 1: talk about the decision to pass in that situation. You

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Speaker 1: there you have it, every aspect and facet of a

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Speaker 1: football game. Failing the Giants in the fourth quarter of

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Speaker 1: this game, yeah, this is may loose to the Broncos

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Speaker 3: This is an offensive, defensive, and special team failure and

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Speaker 3: although in for good measure, a coaching failure for this team.

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Speaker 3: And it's why you lose on the road to the

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Speaker 3: Denver Broncos in a game that you controlled from the

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Speaker 3: very beginning until just under two minutes to go when

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Speaker 3: you gave up the lead for the very first time.

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Speaker 3: There is really only one play, and we'll get to

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Speaker 3: all of it. There's only one play that sits in

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Speaker 3: top of my lungs. And I don't do that regularly. John,

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Speaker 3: you know this.

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Speaker 2: I'm a composed conservative. I've never seen you. This is talking.

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Speaker 3: I talk through the issues that I see. But as

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Speaker 3: I was always told, call.

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Speaker 2: It like you see it.

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Speaker 3: So, with five minutes and thirteen seconds to go in

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Speaker 3: this game, bo Nick scrambles for a touchdown, making it

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Speaker 3: twenty six to sixteen. The Giants have a ten point lead.

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Speaker 3: Read that as two possession leads. There's about just under

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Speaker 3: five minutes left to go when they get the football,

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Speaker 3: and the Denver Broncos have three timeouts remaining. The only thing,

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Speaker 3: and not turn the football over. And so on first down,

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Speaker 3: you run the ball as you're supposed to with Cam Scattaboo,

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Speaker 3: more yards. So it's third and four or five or

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Speaker 3: whatever it was. It doesn't even matter. And Sean Payton

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Speaker 3: has used two of those timeouts on that third down,

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Speaker 3: the only play that you call. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: I don't know if this is Jackson Dart trying to.

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Speaker 2: Be a hero.

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Speaker 3: The only thing you do on that play is run

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Speaker 3: say why you give them a ball back. It gives

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Speaker 1: If you make them call that last time out you

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Speaker 2: To drive the length of the field.

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Speaker 3: With four or so minutes left in the game, it's

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Speaker 2: Then you're gonna get the ball back, and then now

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Speaker 1: Okay, the way have they given up a big play

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Speaker 3: And immigrant and the and the and the likelihood of

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Speaker 2: But the only thing this game was lost. And you

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Speaker 3: It as soon as they decided to put the ball

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Speaker 3: blaming Jackson Dart. He is inexperienced, he is green. He

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Speaker 2: Period.

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Speaker 3: The play call, the only thing you do is force

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Speaker 1: And punt the ball away. It's an inexcusable play call.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand it in any capacity. You don't need

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Speaker 3: You're not down. You're up by ten points. The first

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Speaker 3: down does nothing to you. I heard Bob say this

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Speaker 2: We had about four All you needed to do was

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Speaker 1: I mean, hell, if you want Jackson Dart to pass

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Speaker 1: lot that happened after this obviously in a lot to

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Speaker 1: and put it in Jackson Dart's hands as opposed to

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Speaker 2: That's how you win games. And the Giants.

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Speaker 3: Coaching players executed this thing to the worst degree possible

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Speaker 3: and gave another win away. This is not the same

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Speaker 3: And it's and it's maddening. It's absolutely maddening. They played

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Speaker 2: It's it's oh, it just it kills you. Because this

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Speaker 3: They're not going to the playoffs, but they have a

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about a bunch of the other plays

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Speaker 1: that happened after that sequence. Tiki just talked about when

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Speaker 1: Giants fall to the Broncos thirty three to thirty two.

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Speaker 1: We're back here on Giants Extra Point. That game breakdown,

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Speaker 5: Must look at.

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Speaker 6: Made one more play than we did. A lot of

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Speaker 6: plays that could have changed the outcome of that game,

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Speaker 6: not just one, No.

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Speaker 5: Four already you gotta.

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Speaker 7: The third.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they made some plays, give 'em credit.

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Speaker 8: So how much do you think you're eating, especially defensively,

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Speaker 8: those kinds of suspect today.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sixty minute game, so.

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Speaker 9: You know it was.

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Speaker 6: It's not one play, it's not one position, it's not

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Speaker 5: SI yup.

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Speaker 10: Kind of it's very similarly similar kind of Dallas.

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Speaker 6: Yeah you want more aggressively, Yeah, well we we played man.

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Speaker 6: Uh with two double robbers sitting right there in the

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Speaker 6: at Dallas. Uh was man and man with two robbers

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Speaker 6: and they hit and in cut and then they they

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Speaker 8: You were seeing they should be yelling and change directions

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no nothing.

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Speaker 6: Uh we lost the game.

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Speaker 5: That was upsetting specific.

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Speaker 2: Uh no, we lost the game. Got a max protection.

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Speaker 6: Look, number of guys in protection and it made a

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Speaker 6: nice play.

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Speaker 1: Like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, tough loss.

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Speaker 5: Put their heart and stole into it.

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Speaker 6: So not a lot of talking that needs to be

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Speaker 5: Everybody gave everything, they had.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's tough to lose any game, but certainly this

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Speaker 5: What did you do Jackson?

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Speaker 11: Play overall in this you know, in this.

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Speaker 5: Kind of environment?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we competitive competitive, guy, but just we didn't we

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Speaker 4: How much did you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we won't make an excuse that everybody has injuries. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: we just lost a tough game. Guys gave everything they have.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's a tough way to lose.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we ran I mean we ran some plays we

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Speaker 6: thought were good plays, some plays that we ran earlier.

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Speaker 6: You know, we just didn't We didn't do enough to

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Speaker 6: convert on some third downs. Look, it's not one play.

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Speaker 6: It's it's not one side of the ball.

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Speaker 12: It's that's collective.

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Speaker 6: Trus Yeah, everybody that's out there, we trust m Yeah,

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Speaker 6: we'll evaluate everything again, just come down to one play.

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Speaker 5: There was a number of them.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, A very abbreviated Brian Dable there as press

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Speaker 2: Howth keep getting better? Tike.

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Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of disappointment there from Brian, and of

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Speaker 1: course they're disappointed.

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Speaker 3: How can you not be despondent after having a game

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Speaker 3: I hear people talking about this. They want to blame individuals,

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Speaker 2: Great play calling. It was because the Denver Bronx had

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Speaker 4: You are listening to Giants extra point on the WSAN

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Speaker 2: To go on the wall.

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Speaker 13: Forty seconds to go. Giants trail by four. Scatter the jailback.

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Speaker 13: Now they motion everybody out empty set for dark dark puffs.

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Speaker 1: Now not the most aesthetically pleasing drive, but certainly a

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Speaker 3: So again, we could talk about every little thing in

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Speaker 1: Just a really tough go for the Giants at the

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Speaker 1: end of this game. Giants Football is brought to you

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Speaker 1: All right, we're back here on Giants Extra Point. The

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Speaker 1: And Tiky, we were just looking at that play to

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Speaker 3: And as I look at it, he's got to get deeper.

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Speaker 1: They give up zero points in the first half, first

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Speaker 1: time since they did it to the Eagles in a

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Speaker 1: game last year. And in fact, I shouldn't even say

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Speaker 1: half Eagles had zero points through three quarters of this game.

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Speaker 1: You mean the brocosh the Broncos, sorry, zero points through

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Speaker 1: three quarters of this game. They scored every one of

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Speaker 1: their points in the fourth quarter when things fell apart

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Speaker 1: for the defense. And we're obviously gonna have to go

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Speaker 1: back and rewatch it on the old twenty two to

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Speaker 1: see if any of the strategy changed or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: But eight plays seventy eight yards, thirteen plays seventy four

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Speaker 1: yards for touchdowns, then you had the interception, four plays

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Speaker 1: fourteen yards in the touchdown, six plays sixty eight yards

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Speaker 1: and a touchdown That one was fifty one second drive.

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Speaker 1: Then you had the thirty seven second yard drive, you

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Speaker 1: had or plays fifty six yards for the field goal.

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Speaker 1: So the problem, tiky not just that they scored every possession.

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Speaker 1: They scored quickly, Yeah, a lot of those.

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Speaker 2: And what's troubling about that is how well the defense

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Speaker 2: played for most of this game.

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Speaker 3: It was punt and punt and punt. Then they had

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Speaker 3: a turnover on downs. Then then they had the half

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Speaker 3: and they had another punt. I mean, it just felt

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Speaker 3: like the defense was was dialed in and ready to play.

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Speaker 3: Part of that, I honestly was blaming on Sean Payton's

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Speaker 3: play calling. I thought he was having a very poor

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Speaker 3: day in trying to figure out what was gonna work

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Speaker 3: against this Giants defense. And eventually, when things got desperate,

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Speaker 3: the Benver Broncos played at a higher level than the

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Speaker 3: Giants defense. Like Paydon let bon Nicks play for the

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Speaker 3: first time long game. I mean again, one of the

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Speaker 3: things that I worried about is you think about playing

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Speaker 3: in Denver is the fatigue factor.

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Speaker 2: It just comes to get you at some point. And

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Speaker 2: because at the.

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Speaker 3: End of this game, the Giants defense was on the

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Speaker 3: field for so many time plays a row and so

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Speaker 3: many big plays, it I think fatigue caught up with them.

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Speaker 3: There was a there was a point, you know, late

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Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter or middle of the fourth quarter

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Speaker 3: where uh Banks goes out of this game, and you know,

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Speaker 3: Edgar thought it was his foot he was injured.

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Speaker 2: I said, I think he's just tired.

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Speaker 1: I think he's just fatigued, and he was back on

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Speaker 1: the short right, so he's rushing the hell out of

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Speaker 1: the passer.

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Speaker 3: He's getting up there. You know, two sacks he had

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Speaker 3: in this game. He had a couple of passes defended,

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Speaker 3: knocking down at the line of scrimmage. He was working

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Speaker 3: his butt off and you just get tired. Which you

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Speaker 3: needed to have was an offensive drive, a sustained offensive

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Speaker 3: drive four or five minutes, and the Giants didn't have

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Speaker 3: one and ultimately came back to bite him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, you talked about the Broncos long drives.

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Speaker 1: The Giants, on the other hand, their third to last

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Speaker 1: drive three plays, five yards, interceptions, The drive after that

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Speaker 1: three plays, two yards, punt yep. And then you had

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Speaker 1: that seven play sixty five yard drive that went for

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Speaker 1: the touchdown that you hope was a game winning touchdown

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: And then Tiki. There were other small plays in here too.

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Speaker 1: You had a couple the lay of game penalties, for example,

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Speaker 1: three of them right, three of them by the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Now again some of these they ended up converting on

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Speaker 1: these plays anyway, but you would that you would the

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Speaker 1: cave on Thibodeau at what point we thought was a

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Speaker 1: pivotal you know issue was I think it was an

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Speaker 1: off sides right, you would the burns off side that

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Speaker 1: we thought it put the Broncos in field goal range

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Speaker 1: on that final drive before you had to jump ball,

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Speaker 1: which got to even closer. So again, some of these

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Speaker 1: penalties maybe did not you know, end up having a

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Speaker 1: huge impact on the game.

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Speaker 2: But again, just enough bad mistakes and sloppy plays that

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Speaker 2: added up to this.

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Speaker 3: Mistakes are okay, football is a long game, at sixty

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Speaker 3: minute game where things are some things are gonna go well,

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Speaker 3: some things are gonna go bad, but and mistakes are

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Speaker 3: going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Sure most of them don't.

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Speaker 3: Really hurt you that badly, but when you make mistakes

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Speaker 3: at the wrong times, right, when you make mistakes at

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Speaker 3: critical moments in games, that's when it comes back to

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Speaker 3: hurt you. And I think the thing, the one thing

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Speaker 3: that this giant team is learning and hasn't figured out yet,

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Speaker 3: this current iteration. I'm not talking about you know, the

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Speaker 3: twenty three or four teams or anything else. I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about this current team hasn't learned how to finish games.

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Speaker 3: They haven't learned how to take advantage of your moment.

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Speaker 2: And I don't care what player we're talking about, but

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Speaker 2: it's your moment.

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Speaker 3: It's mcdonminy. When you have to kick an extra point,

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Speaker 3: the most routine thing you will ever do as an

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Speaker 3: NFL player, and for his specific position is to make

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Speaker 3: extra points. You can't miss them. I don't see him

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Speaker 3: being on this team much longer. You've missed two in

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Speaker 3: this game that lost you this game, and you've missed

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Speaker 3: one prior. Young waikhu is on the practice.

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Speaker 2: So when you can't do.

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Speaker 3: The basic things in your moment, you can't you can't

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Speaker 3: be on the team. And so I think the Giants

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Speaker 3: took turns in every facet of not taking advantage of

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Speaker 3: your moment.

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Speaker 2: The one thing that I remember back in twenty.

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Speaker 3: Twenty two, and again this is retrospective, has nothing to

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Speaker 3: do with anything, but in twenty twenty two, the Giant,

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Speaker 3: the dable led Giants, had a ton of one score games.

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Speaker 1: Oh they won almost all there. They think nine and

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Speaker 1: three in one score game, exactly right.

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Speaker 3: I think they had the best one score other than

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Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings in football that year. The Vikings I

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Speaker 3: think were undefeated. They are correct in one score games,

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Speaker 3: the Giants were nine and two or nine and three,

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Speaker 3: whatever whatever it may have been, and then they beat

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Speaker 3: the Vikings in a one score game in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: So but in that year, guys would have their moment.

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Speaker 3: It was Xavier McKinney, whether it was Saquon, whether it

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Speaker 3: was Daniel Jones had that big strip, exact Ravens. There

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Speaker 3: was your moment to make the play, and they always

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Speaker 3: did it. And that's how you win tight one score games.

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Speaker 3: Most games in the NFL, as crazy as it sounds, are,

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Speaker 3: are one score games. And this Giant team hasn't figured

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Speaker 3: out how to do that, and that's why they're losing

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Speaker 3: games that they shouldn't. And I know this is, oh

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Speaker 3: who cares. We got the future, We got our future quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That's fun, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: But you gotta make the main thing the main thing,

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Speaker 2: and that's winning. Winning is what is really the only

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Speaker 2: thing that matters.

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Speaker 3: And I know development and looking forward to the future

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Speaker 3: is fun, but nobody gives a crap about September of

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Not the guys in the locker, of course not.

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Speaker 1: And so I don't I don't, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear that right. I want to hear that what I

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Speaker 1: did today helped us win a game.

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Speaker 2: Frustrating Jackson.

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Speaker 15: I'm trying to put it all together. We had chances

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Speaker 15: to win the game, didn't do it. It's frustrating.

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Speaker 7: What happened.

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Speaker 16: My feet got a little stuck in the ground.

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Speaker 5: I'd be way better than that.

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Speaker 16: I mean, that's that's it. It's unacceptable. Yeah, I gotta

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Speaker 16: be better.

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Speaker 5: Mm hm, well we have.

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Speaker 16: I never felt like we were gonna lose the game, so,

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Speaker 16: you know, I looked at the clock when they scored,

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Speaker 16: I said.

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Speaker 15: And we got a lot of time left, and uh jeez,

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Speaker 15: I had a I had no doubt that we were

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Speaker 15: gonna go down there and score. Yeah, I've I've had

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Speaker 15: some tough ones. I just can't stand losing. So the

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Speaker 15: loss hurts me the same every time I take one.

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Speaker 15: You know, Yeah, absolutely, I can't do that.

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Speaker 16: You know, it's we were in full control of the

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Speaker 16: game in that situation.

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Speaker 5: You can't do that.

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Speaker 15: So that was an unacceptable mistake by me, an unacceptable mistake.

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Speaker 7: As a competitor.

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Speaker 5: How do you get back?

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Speaker 11: How that's right?

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Speaker 15: Now? Yeah, I mean we were played in six days,

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Speaker 15: so you can't let one lostly to another. You gotta

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Speaker 15: fix the things that you messed up on, and we

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Speaker 15: gotta finish games. I mean, that's we have to be

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Speaker 15: able to finish the game. So we have good leaders

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Speaker 15: on the team, we have good players. We have to

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Speaker 15: find ways to finish the game and uh and bounce back.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 15: Coming into the game, I knew that they were top

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Speaker 15: two defense in the entire league, so I knew that

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Speaker 15: it wasn't gonna just be easy going out there. They

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Speaker 15: do a lot of really good things and they've given

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Speaker 15: a lot of people a lot of hits. And you know,

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Speaker 15: looking back when I try to reflect on the game,

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Speaker 15: there's probably a few things we were just like, yeah,

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Speaker 15: like I wish, you know, I would have made this

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Speaker 15: decision or this decision, But I mean we had chances.

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Speaker 16: We just we didn't finish the game. Yeah, it just sucks.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's.

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Speaker 16: Like I said, I hate I hate losing. So it's

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Speaker 16: just like just a bad feeling.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean I haven't really thought of that.

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Speaker 5: To be honest.

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Speaker 16: It's just a loss that shouldn't have happened by us.

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Speaker 5: Thanks all right, appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 1: Player press conferences after the game are brought to you

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Speaker 2: Let's take a quick time out. We'll come back.

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Speaker 1: We will hear for more players in the locker room,

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Speaker 1: and we'll dive a little bit deeper into Jackson Dark's

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Speaker 1: performance night. We haven't talked about that yet on Giants

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Speaker 1: Extra Point. The Giants with just a heartbreaking, brutal, tough

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Speaker 1: thirty three to thirty two loss to the Denver Broncos,

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Speaker 14: This is Jackson Dart and you're listening to Giants Football

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Speaker 2: Two. Tight end to the white play fake Dark back

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Speaker 2: to throw looking for a deep ball. He had somebody

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Speaker 2: to deep.

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Speaker 17: Now he crows it downfield quite open Felager for the

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Speaker 17: touchdown forty four yards. He had a deep early, avoided

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Speaker 17: some pressure and Grellinger.

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Speaker 18: Was like, hey, I'm still open. Dark calls out signals

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Speaker 18: third and seventeen. They bring pressure up the middle. Dark's

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Speaker 18: back fires.

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Speaker 17: It over the middle and it's caught off a deflection

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Speaker 17: theo Johnson's got a twenty ten five to the goal line.

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Speaker 5: Is he in yet?

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Speaker 2: No single touchdown? Giants.

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Speaker 1: By the way, great call by Bob Papa. He is

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Speaker 1: at play on the deflestion. The theo Johnson was pure chaos.

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Speaker 1: The fact that he nailed that excellent. Excellent job, Bob Papa.

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Speaker 1: I promise you that. But I'm sure the bus is

667
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: about to pull out and he wants to be on it.

668
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go quickly to Pauldatino, who's joining us

669
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: in Denver outside Empower Field at Mile High. He's just

670
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: been in the locker room. We're gonna play some of

671
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: that sound for you shortly. Paul Datino. Wow, what was

672
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: it like being there for that? And what was the

673
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: locker room like after that?

674
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 19: It's a really numb feeling.

675
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 20: John.

676
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 19: I'm not gonna lie. Dexter Lawrence wrapped up real simple

677
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 19: and he said this one hurts hurts even more than

678
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 19: the Dallas game. The Giants understood that in context, this

679
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 19: was a situation that would have had them win three

680
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 19: out of four, gotten him to within a game of

681
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 19: five hundred, knowing that the Eagles were going to be

682
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 19: next up, you know in the following week. The Giants

683
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 19: really have a chance today to make themselves very, very relevant,

684
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 19: and they let this one get away. Just like the

685
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 19: Dallas game, some degree, a lot of similarities. I mean,

686
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 19: given up five consecutive scoring drives in the fourth quarter.

687
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 19: It's unbelievable. It makes you incredulous. The locker room was

688
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 19: incredibly quiet. Guys who just the number I didn't sense

689
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 19: any emotion. It was more numb. And I will say this,

690
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 19: nobody made excuses. They all said, look, we knew what

691
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 19: defenses were called. We executed for three quarters. Everything was

692
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 19: going away it was supposed to do. And then the

693
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 19: Broncos just started to make a bunch of plays and

694
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 19: they got the momentum, and no one could explain why

695
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 19: the Giants defense suddenly wasn't able to lock them down.

696
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 19: The guys were pretty much in the loss for words.

697
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine that, and you know, it's it's

698
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: hard because you know that this team can play with anybody.

699
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 2: They can.

700
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying they're beating everybody, the best teams, and I

701
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: don't even know if Denver, even though they're sitting at

702
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 3: five and two right now, or one of the quote

703
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: unquote best teams in the NFL right now, you know

704
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 3: there are no great teams in the NFL.

705
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: I think you're right about that.

706
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 3: Even the top ones have had struggles, even though Kansas

707
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: City seems to be getting their stuff right right, I

708
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: agree with that. But even still, you know you can

709
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 3: play with any of the top teams because you've already

710
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: done it, whether that be the Chargers, whether that be

711
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: the Eagles. You were just talking about the Denvers with

712
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 3: the number one or number two.

713
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: Defense in football. You played with them and put points

714
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: on them, and you did well. You were dominating them

715
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: twenty six to eight.

716
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: Yes, but finishing games is so important and making the

717
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: right decisions to finish those games is what is I

718
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: think paramount for this team to continue to grow on

719
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: and do on a weekend and week out basis.

720
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 19: It's not an excuse, but a number of guys were

721
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 19: asked about the altitude and fatigue setting in. Nobody wanted to.

722
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 20: Use that as an excuse.

723
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 19: Let me make that very clear to everybody out there.

724
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 19: I don't want you to think there's an alibi. But

725
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 19: as not So said in the locker room, he's like,

726
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 19: you know what, you gotta make the plays. We have

727
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 19: enough shuts here, We have enough for backups guys who

728
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 19: are capable. So even if you're tapping out, even if

729
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 19: you've got to rotate guys in, that means those guys

730
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 19: have to go in and make the plays. So there's

731
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 19: no alibi. There's no excuse they didn't know enough. It's

732
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 19: just that simple. But I do think that clearly. You know,

733
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 19: we talked about how the oxygen takes are on the

734
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 19: sideline and guys have to take it. And if you

735
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 19: are going through extended drives and you're getting emotional and

736
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 19: it's a tight game and momentums going the other way, yeah,

737
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 19: it does become extremely difficult to get your wing back

738
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 19: and to play your PA deficiency. But again, no excuse,

739
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 19: no alibi. The Giants came back and topped the lead,

740
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 19: and in the final thirty seconds they'll bull it again.

741
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 19: There's no lesson out.

742
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: And again it's the second time. We've seen that this

743
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: year too with the game against Dallas. Two questions for you,

744
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: Paul any word on a debo and Holland and their injuries.

745
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: And then also we're gonna play Jude Micketmney in the

746
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: locker room in a little bit. Just that's always a

747
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: tough spot the kicker. He's sitting there, he's by himself.

748
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: How did that whole thing go downstairs? Go go on downstairs?

749
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 19: After the game, Jude took all the blame for it.

750
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 19: Daves had said there was an operation issue on one

751
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 19: of the miskicks, but Jude said, look, I don't care

752
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 19: if the snap is a little off. I don't care

753
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 19: if the holes a little bit off. I'm a professional kicker.

754
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 19: It's my job to make the kick. He said he

755
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 19: thought that his last point after get it, well, he's like,

756
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 19: I felt it was good. I look up and then

757
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 19: I see it's wide.

758
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 20: Right.

759
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 19: He just the early one, he said, he just missed it.

760
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 19: So he was not looking for any excuses either.

761
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 20: He stood up and he took it.

762
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 19: And I give him a lot of credit for that.

763
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 19: Just he's had a lot of trouble now with these dads.

764
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 19: This has become a little bit of a habit.

765
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 20: As far as I'm sorry, John, you you.

766
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 19: Asked a different questions. Yeah, a DEEPO was in a

767
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 19: lot room getting dressed after the game. I did not

768
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 19: have the opportunity to talk to him because he had

769
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 19: just come out from in the back with the trainers.

770
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 19: But he was getting dressed on his own power. He

771
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 19: did not look like he needed any assistance, so I'd

772
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 19: say that's a decent sign. Of course, Holland did talk

773
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 19: to us. He said he had a sprain and he

774
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 19: was probably going after undergo some more testing tomorrow morning.

775
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 19: But again he got dressed under his own part and

776
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 19: did not appear to be in any serious discomfort as

777
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 19: he talked to the media.

778
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: See you got anything else for Paul? Now we're good.

779
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Paul, appreciate you. You know, when you

780
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: talk about the missed extra points, both of those snaps.

781
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: Were slightly off, a little bit low, So the handling

782
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: is different.

783
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 5: Now.

784
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: I've never been a kicker in my life.

785
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: I've watched obviously a lot of football, and sometimes when

786
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 3: those snaps are off like that, at you as the kicker.

787
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: And this is hard for jud because he's this is

788
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 3: only his first year doing this, yea, right, he was

789
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 3: on the practice squad to start this season. You have

790
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: to slow yourself down a tick so that you give

791
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 3: your holder a chance to get that ball exactly right otherwise,

792
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 3: because if it's leaning one way or another, that's going

793
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: to affect where the ball goes after it leaves your foot.

794
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: So part of this is on the snap, and I

795
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 3: know that Dave's was alluding to that, but it's also

796
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: that once the timing gets messed up, as.

797
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: A experienced kicker, which Jude is not, you learn how

798
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: to correct for it. And he's not there yet, all right,

799
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: And let's hear from Judi mcatomney. He did talk to

800
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: the media in the locker room hatch to the game.

801
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: Let's cheer what Jude had to say about his two

802
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: mixed missed pats.

803
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 5: Pointed times today.

804
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 21: I'm not going to shy away from that look. The

805
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 21: stop and hold is good, it's just my was mine

806
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 21: like execution on.

807
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 5: The kick, so.

808
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 21: Something I'm not going to shy away from my mistakes

809
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 21: and let our team.

810
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 7: Was there anything with the term when you plant.

811
00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 5: Flair or anything?

812
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 11: All the look had a great week of practice.

813
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 21: We practiced some grass, you know, a great normals, just

814
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 21: one of those things gonna make the kekes once the

815
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 21: oppercentage that comes, you know.

816
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, je I'm sory if yours is already Just

817
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: what on on the final pat?

818
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 5: What what happened on it? Was?

819
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 6: It?

820
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 21: Just honestly, I when it came off the foot, I

821
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 21: thought it was good, you know, one for it looked

822
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 21: up and was wide right.

823
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 5: You know.

824
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 21: I was his shots as everyone else, you know, So

825
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 21: I stuffed no process one for kicked down the target

826
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 21: and pushed it right.

827
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 12: So that's only.

828
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 7: A right how thought the first one?

829
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 21: The first one, next, first one's own music.

830
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, gotta gonna make the kecks. I'm gonna shy away.

831
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 21: From that, but I'll take fol responsible, you know, and

832
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 21: everybody in cheenagers I go to make the kekesmes comes up.

833
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 16: That's the symbols Brian.

834
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 8: Brian did say the opperation wasn't great on more and

835
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 8: that kind of responsible for it.

836
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 21: Yeah, but suppose he even with that, I s should

837
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 21: be able to get guys out of the whole, you know,

838
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 21: like if the snop's all perfect, the hole's no perfect.

839
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 21: Like I'm a professional kicker, you know, go to be

840
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 21: able to make those like poles guys out of old one.

841
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 7: I need to you know, so.

842
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 21: Kids, he said, he stomps on him, But like, look

843
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 21: the balls down the lisses were good. You know, I

844
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 21: just got him make to play.

845
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: And he did it on those two particular extra points, Tiki,

846
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: and look, you know, neither one of us is gonna

847
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: start breaking down, kicking mechanics or anything like that. But

848
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: I'll say, is this when you're a team that has

849
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: struggled to win games over the past two and a

850
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: half years and you're playing in a lot of close games, which,

851
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: by the way, every NFL teams plays in a lot

852
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: of close that's just the nature of the league.

853
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: They're more close than they're not. That is correct.

854
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: The Giants have had too many situations over the last

855
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: two seasons where they have lost games because.

856
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: Balls have not found their way through the upright.

857
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right, And it gets frustrating when it

858
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 3: comes back to bite you in a game like this one.

859
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it feels because it feels like the Giants

860
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: dominated so much of this game, and it wasn't huge leads,

861
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 3: but going into the fourth quarter it was nineteen nothing,

862
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 3: nineteen to nothing, in the fourth quarter, and obviously that

863
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: drive started in the third quarter. It did the Denver

864
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: Broncos scored on to make it nineteen to eight, but

865
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 3: the Giants gave up thirty three points in the fourth quarter,

866
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: and it almost it's almost improbable and impossible. I've never

867
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: don't because you don't have enough possessions to do it.

868
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: And the only way that it happens is if you

869
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 3: self implode. And even despite that, if the Giants just

870
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 3: take care of their business and again, dude making extra points,

871
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart not throwing interceptions, it almost doesn't matter because

872
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: you played so well for you know, three quarters of

873
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: this game that it was almost lost proof. And the

874
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: way that this thing plays out, as Paul was talking

875
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 3: about the locker room, it makes you sick because I

876
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: know it's just a win and a loss.

877
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: Uh, And there's there's there's there's more football to be played.

878
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: But at two and five, you start to inch yourself

879
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 3: closer to irrelevancy. And and we talk about people's jobs,

880
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 3: I'm talking about players.

881
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: Coaches you used to have.

882
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 3: My coaches used to tell me all the time when

883
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: we were going through particularly bad streaks, they should put

884
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 3: signs outside the stadium saying hiring all positions and even

885
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 3: if you have development happening, but you're losing, that's what's

886
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: going to happen. People are going to get evaluated by

887
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 3: the wsn LS, not by oh this guy played well.

888
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: They just messed it up in the right in the

889
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: wrong moment. When you're in school, your grades are the

890
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: ones that can right.

891
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter how hard you work. It doesn't matter

892
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 3: how much your your your homework looks like. It doesn't

893
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: matter how much the the the regular tests and during

894
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 3: the during the during the week, or during the months

895
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 3: leading up to the final matter. It matters what you

896
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: do in the final.

897
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: No question.

898
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna give you a stat here. Tek

899
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: you talk about how improbable this was. This I'm grabbing

900
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 1: this off with Ralphaciano's Twitter account. I'm assuming he's getting

901
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: this correct off the NFL and CBS television broadcast. There

902
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: had been sixteen hundred and two consecutive wins by NFL

903
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: teams who were leading by eighteen points with six minutes

904
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: to go, Like the Giants were in deavor that streak

905
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: and died two day.

906
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, this is why that third and five

907
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: and I started, We started the post game with it,

908
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: and I go back to it. This is why the

909
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 3: third and five was such an in monumental mistake. Whether

910
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 3: it was the play call or the execution or both,

911
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: it really it was both because in that situation you

912
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: have to run the football. The reason is because football, ultimately,

913
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 3: just like every other sport, is a game of possessions.

914
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 3: Right Forget all the big plays and the miss extra

915
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 3: points and the you know, the touchdown, forget all of that.

916
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,479
Speaker 1: Football is about sessions, and when you have the possession adds,

917
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: as the Giants did.

918
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: You can't give it away. And they gave it away.

919
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 3: By not going forward, not running on third and five,

920
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: and instead throwing a pass which would have been egregious enough.

921
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: It was incomplete because you stop the clock and you

922
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: allow the Denver Broncos to save a timeout, but to

923
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: then throw an interception and give them a short field

924
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: to score in fifty six seconds, It just it flipped

925
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: every bit of momentum in the game.

926
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Speaker 2: And I think ultimately that's.

927
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 3: Where I get most frustrated, is because yes, they gave

928
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 3: up that touchdown to make it twenty four to eight

929
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: or twenty six to eight in the third and at

930
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: the beginning of the fourth quarter, actually the Giants scored

931
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: to make it twenty six to eight, and then all

932
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, it's twenty six to sixteen.

933
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Speaker 1: But they still had control. And as soon as you

934
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: throw that interception, you give up the control that you

935
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: had the entire game. All right, let's take a time out.

936
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Speaker 1: We'll come back. We got more south from the locker

937
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: room with her, from the leader of the Giants defense,

938
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence. We'll still break down with Jackson Dart did

939
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: in this game.

940
00:46:59,160 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: That a whole lot more.

941
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: As you continue on Giants extra point and Giants again

942
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: fall in heartbreaking fashion to the Broncos thirty three to

943
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Speaker 1: thirty two.

944
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

945
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Speaker 4: You are listening to Giants extra Point on the WFAN

946
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Speaker 4: Giants Radio network.

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00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 11: This is Dexon one is the second and you're listening

948
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Speaker 11: to Giants Football Underfan w FA N and w FA

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Speaker 11: N FM, New York.

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Speaker 2: Baseball.

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00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 18: Down Signals takes the snap receiver screen for someting makes

952
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 18: the company's plaster on the two yard line.

953
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: What a hit. Dave Belton came flying in there from

954
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Speaker 2: a safety spot.

955
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 7: That's what Belton will do.

956
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Speaker 2: And Denver turns it over on down to the two

957
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 2: yard line.

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Speaker 1: Boy, there was a time today when Tik and I

959
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna open up this postgame show and talk about

960
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: how great the Giants defense was. And that was one

961
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: of those plays, the one decent drive the Broncos had

962
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: in the first three quarters in this game that went

963
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: for six four yards. They got it down, they had

964
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: its seconding goal at the Giants two yard line.

965
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: He talked about Jean Paynon's play call.

966
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 1: He has to throw it three times, right, very considered,

967
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: very imprudent play calls, and.

968
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Speaker 2: They get the fourth in goal at the two. They

969
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 2: throw a little screen pass to Courtland.

970
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: Sutton looks like he has a straight line for the

971
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: end zone and Dame Belton, like a bat out of Hell,

972
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: comes flying out of the secondary and just plasters.

973
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 2: And massive context.

974
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and turnover on downs was a big one because

975
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 3: it kept them, It kept them far away from being

976
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 3: back in the game, the different Broncos. And you know,

977
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: hats off just briefly to Dame Belton because Javon Harland

978
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: goes down in this game, he tried to come back

979
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 3: briefly played I think a couple of snaps before he

980
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: was offentually ruled out for this game, but Dame Belton

981
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 3: made some plays down the stretch, including you know, another

982
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: third down tackle where he just swarmed the defense. They

983
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 3: tried to set up a pick screen. He came down

984
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 3: from the safety plays well, played really well and call

985
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: up it's your turn type of situation. So you know,

986
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 3: hats off to him, but it just it just wasn't

987
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 3: enough ultimately fully for the defense, who played great otherwise

988
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 3: for three quarters of this game.

989
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: Runna Walk with Giants Legends.

990
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: The Giants Foundation will host a five K racing Kids

991
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: run presented by Quest next Sunday at nine a m

992
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: and MetLife Stadium. That proceeds will benefit the Giants Foundation.

993
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: All participants will receive a commemorative T shirt and after

994
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: the race day for a festival with appearances by Giants Legends.

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00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: Tiki will be there and a live DJ. Register now

996
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Speaker 1: at giants dot com Slash five k. The Giants Foundation

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Speaker 1: is a five oh one C three nonprofit corporation. Paul

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00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: Tatino when he joined us mentioned Dexter Lawrence was rather

999
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: powerful in the locker rooms. I wanted to make sure

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00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: we got that in before we said goodbye to our

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00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: affiliates on our network. So here's Dexter Lawrence, one of

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Speaker 1: the Giants captains after the game and an.

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Speaker 22: Individual and then you guys as a team process of

1004
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 22: result like this, after we've dominated them for so much

1005
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 22: in the games, you.

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00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 11: Just can't have it in fourth quarter. I mean that's.

1007
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: I can say.

1008
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 11: They we didn't finish in the fourth fourth quarter?

1009
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 7: What changed that? What changed?

1010
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 11: I could tell you?

1011
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 5: I don't know.

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00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 11: I don't know. Same same people, same calls, same I

1013
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 11: don't know.

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00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 7: Did you kill.

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00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 23: Yeah a little bit as that game went on due

1016
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 23: to the altitude or anything of the.

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00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 11: Natur I don't know.

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00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 5: Sure.

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00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 11: I can't speak for How do everybody else feel?

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00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 5: Do you personate that?

1021
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 24: Uh?

1022
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 5: Not really?

1023
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 25: You know, feel like I got to save them mount snaps, mm.

1024
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 25: Just gotta finish. Man, can't give up thirty three points

1025
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 25: in the fourth quarter.

1026
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 11: That's that's not good.

1027
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 26: Actually, after giving up thirty and them taking the lead,

1028
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 26: you guys came down, you know, Jackson letter drive and

1029
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 26: you guys went ahead. S what thirty five thirty six

1030
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 26: seconds left? Thirty one thirty Yeah, after the kick off

1031
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 26: thirty one you know that exactly the number they had

1032
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 26: no timeouts. Did you think, Okay, this is our chance

1033
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 26: to fine he finished this once in for all.

1034
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 25: I mean, yeah, we thought that earlier in the fourth.

1035
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 25: They just caught some good passes. You can't make that up.

1036
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 25: Got clock the ball with two seconds and that's what happened.

1037
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 11: You think, you think, one play and you win.

1038
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 26: You know, somebody gets a sack, somebody gets a deflection.

1039
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 20: You know.

1040
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 5: There.

1041
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 26: You made so many plays in this game, and you

1042
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 26: it seems like you came one short.

1043
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 11: Uh, I can't say. I think it's more than just

1044
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 11: one play.

1045
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 25: You know, it's it was I don't know how many

1046
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 25: plays they have, but it's every play isn't impactful. You

1047
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 25: never know which play is gonna be that play. So

1048
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 25: you just gotta go go play hard and we gotta

1049
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 25: win that one.

1050
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 8: Would you like as a defensive player there, I mean,

1051
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 8: it's kind of similar to Dallas Dave said. It was

1052
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 8: a different play called the first pass that they hit

1053
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 8: to get kind of get in your field goal range.

1054
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 8: Would you like to bring pressure in the kind of

1055
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 8: situations as a defensive line on you would you like

1056
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 8: to bring pressure you do with you know, rushing three

1057
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 8: or four whatever the call is in that.

1058
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 5: Regard, when where do you stand on that?

1059
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 12: MM?

1060
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 11: Leave that to the coaches.

1061
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 5: Thix.

1062
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 22: Was there a was there a point in the game

1063
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 22: in the fourth quarter where you felt it spiraling?

1064
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 11: Not really.

1065
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 25: I always felt like we could get a stop whenever

1066
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 25: we was on the field. They just made the plays

1067
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 25: they needed to make.

1068
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Speaker 22: M I don't know, man, We've been in this spot

1069
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 22: a few times where it's, uh, you know, we're asking

1070
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 22: you about a improbable loss.

1071
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Speaker 16: I'm wondering if this one hurts any more? It feels

1072
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 16: any different.

1073
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: Because of what was at stake if you win, like

1074
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 2: if you always say you're three and four, you've won

1075
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 2: three out of four. Maybe trades, playoff, all that stuff.

1076
00:52:54,520 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 25: Yeah, this one, this one probably hurt Morgin the other losses, yeah,

1077
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 25: the yeah, it because of this one hurt by This

1078
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 25: one hurt.

1079
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 5: Have you assimilated to Dallas?

1080
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: Does it remind you that or.

1081
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 27: Do you look?

1082
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 11: Uh, it's two separate games. Yeah, this one hurt. This

1083
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 11: one hurts.

1084
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 28: You give when Jordan asked you the question about for

1085
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 28: the concert or a crush though it took a while pause,

1086
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 28: there was a long pause there. Do you feel right

1087
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 28: now defensively? You guys are being quit the best position

1088
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 28: to have successful.

1089
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 25: Who was putting the best position all game? They just

1090
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 25: made the place contested catchers? Uh, I mean y, you

1091
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 25: saw what happened. Everything was contested.

1092
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 11: M Yeah, I don't know.

1093
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 22: Texas saw you consoling there for for veterans like yourselves

1094
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 22: who are leading and trying to get you guys open the.

1095
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: What is the pain like that that you feel after

1096
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 2: this one hurt?

1097
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 11: This one hurt, It's hurt. I don't know how else

1098
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 11: to put it.

1099
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 25: We gotta have it. We gotta have the big plays.

1100
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 25: We gotta we gotta make the big plays, you know,

1101
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 25: the moment plays, you know, the in the fourth quarter

1102
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 25: when they mused the most and you know the game

1103
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 25: is on the line.

1104
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 11: We gotta have those.

1105
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Speaker 1: That's Dexter Lawrence after the game and Tiki Well, I

1106
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Speaker 1: want to get the Jackson Dartstone a little bit. But

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00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: first tell me as a leader, you were a guy

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00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: that your team looked to for leadership when you were here. Uh,

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00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: you get you're on that plane, are you going around,

1110
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, patting people on the shoulder, You're talking to him.

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00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: You just lot to sink in for the flight. Do

1112
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: you then talk to him on Monday. How do you

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00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: go about that.

1114
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: This is probably a Monday thing.

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00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 3: This is a long flight home, and guys are exhausted

1116
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 3: because of playing in the altitude.

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00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: And I know they didn't use that as an excuse,

1118
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 2: but I mean, it's it's real. It comes back and

1119
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 2: it gets you.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And it showed at least it looked like it was

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00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 3: an issue as this game went down the line. I

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00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 3: think you wait on this one because this is such

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00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 3: a emotional type of loss.

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Speaker 27: Uh.

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00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 3: You're you feel drained, you feel angry, you feel all

1127
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 3: of these emotions that you that are they're important to have,

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00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 3: but you can't commiserate with them, if that makes sense.

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00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 3: You can't go around and be angry and disturbed and

1130
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 3: mad about because the coach did this, or Shane Bowen

1131
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 3: called this, or Dave did this, or Kafka did this

1132
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 3: or this player did X, Y or Z. You kind

1133
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 3: of need to chill and let it sink and let

1134
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 3: it absorb into you and then come out with a

1135
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: more rational, uh type of constructive criticism, because there's gonna

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00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 3: be criticism that's passed down when this team watches this tape,

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00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 3: especially this fourth quarter. They're gonna feel sick to their

1138
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 3: stomachs because of how much of it, of this they

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00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 3: gave away, and they'll realize it.

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00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 1: But they got to make They got to make good

1141
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: out of it. And I don't think that happens right away.

1142
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: Giants football is brought to you locally by Ford ln

1143
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 1: performance and capability at every turn. Get behind the wheel

1144
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: of a new Ford truck or rest Ford official truck

1145
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: and suv of the New York Giants. All right, tikey,

1146
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: let's finally get to that Jackson Dark conversation. I've been

1147
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: promising for about a half an hour now. Fifteen to

1148
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: thirty three, two hundred and eighty three yards, three touchdowns,

1149
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: a pick. He had those two completions for more than

1150
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 1: forty yards that we played coming into our previous segment

1151
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: to THEO Johnson on the deflection and then the blown

1152
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: coverage to Daniel Bellinger earlier in the game. Didn't really

1153
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: run much. We talked about this in the pregame. The

1154
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: Broncos do not give up rushing yards. He just had

1155
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: five carries for eleven yards in this game. Your thoughts

1156
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: on Dark's performance. He got sacked four times over the

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00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 1: course of this contest.

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00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: Some good, some bad. He had some overthrows. Late your thoughts, Look,

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00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: this was this was a statistically confusing day. Be puse.

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00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: You look at the the completion percentage, you're like, man,

1161
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 3: he had a rough day. Then you look at the yards,

1162
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: You're like, man, he had a good day.

1163
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 2: And the touchdowns. Man, he had a really good day.

1164
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 2: But I think for ninety.

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00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 3: Percent of this game, and that's mostly in the first

1166
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 3: three plus quarter, Jackson Dart was exactly what you wanted

1167
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 3: him to be.

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00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 2: He was smart with the football.

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00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 1: When he had opportunities to take shots, he took those shots,

1170
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: something we haven't seen him do, the Daniel Belager one

1171
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: being one. I think that THEO Johnson it was actually

1172
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: a dig routere a crossing route going to Wandell Robinson.

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00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: That he should have caught.

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00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 3: He just he simply dropped and he dropped it and

1175
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 3: tipped it into the air, which usually means interceptions. But

1176
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 3: THEO Johnson was Johnny on the spot and picked the

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00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 3: thing off and went all the way, you know, in

1178
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 3: for the touchdown, and so I.

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00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 2: Think he made.

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00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 3: But my point was that was a good throw to

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00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 3: Wandell Robinson. It was the right throw and it was

1182
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 3: right on time. Wandell just dropped it. It happened to

1183
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 3: fetuitously work out in their favor. And so you look

1184
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: at what he what he did when he had to

1185
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: make those those big throws, he made them, including the

1186
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 3: fourth down in nineteen that he was able to pick up.

1187
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 3: And then they got the unsportsman like penalty on sportsman

1188
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 3: like conduct penalty on roughing the passer.

1189
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 2: And so I think.

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00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart is growing each and every game. And I

1191
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 3: feel like after that Saints game, there were so many

1192
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: mistakes that could point to the youth of this team,

1193
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 3: meaning Cam's Gataboo and Jackson Dart and the interceptions and

1194
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 3: the fumbles and all that stuff, and it was like, man,

1195
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 3: he'll learn his lesson from that. And then we saw

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00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 3: him like in the next week against the Eagles, was

1197
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: he was dead on. You didn't have to worry about it.

1198
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 3: And you in your mind, you're like, Okay, he's cured

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00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 3: of that. He's watched those rookie, dumb rookie mistakes out

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00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 3: and it's not gonna happen again.

1201
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: But the reality is it's just still only his fourth

1202
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: game starting. He's still a rookie. He's still going to.

1203
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 3: Make bad decisions because he doesn't know yet what his

1204
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 3: limitations or or or is. You know where his realm is,

1205
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: right where he should stay inside of And in that

1206
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 3: situation where he was tangled up a little bit, the

1207
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 3: pressure was coming from Vance Joseph, at least it felt

1208
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 3: like there was pressure. And he throws that interception. It's

1209
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 3: just like you just want him to take the sack. Yeah,

1210
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: take the sack in that moment. Don't try to make

1211
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 3: a play out of nothing. And I know because all

1212
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 3: my friends are saying, he's earned the right, he's earned

1213
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 3: the trust to make that play.

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00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: But the problem, oh you said about any quarterback, The

1215
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: problem is it's the wrong play rights.

1216
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 3: He shouldn't have been put in that position to try

1217
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 3: to be a hero in that moment. And that's what

1218
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 3: bothers me most.

1219
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: And you would say that to a veteran quarterback too.

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00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: You just just take it back. I don't care if

1221
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: it's keep the clock run, I don't care if that's

1222
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning.

1223
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 3: No, if Peyton Manning is in that moment and you're

1224
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 3: up by ten points with then they need with four

1225
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,959
Speaker 3: minutes to go and they have to use their last

1226
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 3: time out and play the field position game.

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00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: You make the right play. Jackson doesn't know.

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00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: That yet, correct And then look, if they put the

1229
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: ball in your hands, you just cannot you can do

1230
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: anything on that possession.

1231
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 2: You just cannot turn the ball over.

1232
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: Again, Giants probably win the game, I think to me,

1233
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: and I've tried to be calm a little bit. You know,

1234
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: some Giant fans are getting super excited. I've tried to

1235
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: stay calm and evaluating Dart and Tiki. To me, this

1236
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: to me might be, despite the interception, the most encouraging performance.

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Speaker 2: And here's why. And this is why I think it is.

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01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: To me, we knew in this game that the Broncos

1239
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: do a lot of interesting things on defense. They bring

1240
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure.

1241
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: The easy endless five yard quick out seven yards stop

1242
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: route in the crawl area.

1243
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was not available in this game. No, absolutely

1244
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: not in this game.

1245
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: Jackson dark completed passes for forty four yards forty one yards. Now,

1246
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: again that was the deflection, but it should have been

1247
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: a long completion anyway. Robinson for nineteen on a fourth

1248
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: and nineteen play.

1249
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: By the way, he had another one eighteen plus to Robins,

1250
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 2: he had twenty nine yards to Bellinger.

1251
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: He had a thirteen yard to Wando Robinson, a twenty

1252
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: three yard to Wander Robinson, a twenty nine yard to

1253
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: Fio Johnson, had another eighteen yard to Wando Robinson.

1254
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 3: So they attacked this Denver defense in a way that

1255
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 3: a lot of teams this year haven't been able.

1256
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: To do big plays.

1257
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: They had the lowest big play rail aloud in the

1258
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: league heading into this game.

1259
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: The Giants got big plays all over the place.

1260
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: And on top of that, yeah, with all the blitzing,

1261
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: to your point, how many times did he make the

1262
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: right play the blitz came, He went to the quick slant,

1263
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: he went to the quick throw, and he got the

1264
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: ball out when they blitzed, And you know what, that's encouraging.

1265
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: And he did look sped up at times. That's gonna happen.

1266
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: He stole only his fourth game, but I thought for

1267
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: the most part he handled what a awesome defense in

1268
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: the Broncos we're gonna throw at him reasonably well. The

1269
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: one thing I did say during the break, we've seen this,

1270
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: when he gets down in games, he maybe tries too

1271
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: hard to make some place all right. He could have

1272
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: thrown two interceptions on that final drive before the pass

1273
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: interference on ballcock.

1274
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 3: He was not accurate on his deep throws in that

1275
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 3: and he had overthrown desperate moments. There were overthrows. But

1276
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 3: I almost put that to you know, something we heard

1277
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 3: Dave say earlier. Actually, I think he said this in

1278
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 3: the preseason talking about the connection with some of the

1279
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,479
Speaker 3: younger wide receivers. It's just time on task and until

1280
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 3: you've done that, yeah, ten thousand times.

1281
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 2: What's the cliche from from from fifteen thousand reps? Whatever?

1282
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: Its ten thousand reps whatever it is not that's that's nonsense.

1283
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 2: But it's just he hasn't he doesn't have that yet.

1284
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: Practicing makes you better, just for the Yeah, for all

1285
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: the kids out there listening, as I tell my eight

1286
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: year old constantly, have you work on something.

1287
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: Right, you're going to get better at right and then.

1288
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 3: And it's also having familiarity with your receivers and knowing

1289
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 3: how they want that ball delivered, and for you as

1290
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 3: a quarterback, how you should deliver those balls. Is that

1291
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 3: is my receiver on top of the defender, So do

1292
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 3: I throw it out in front of him and just

1293
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 3: get air under it so he can run and catch it.

1294
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 20: Uh?

1295
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 3: Is is the defender on top of him. So I

1296
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 3: need to put this on the back shoulder, Like all

1297
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 3: of these things come with repetition, and he just hasn't

1298
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 3: had a ton of it. I mean, he was the

1299
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 3: he was the backup quarterback all through training camp. He

1300
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 3: didn't start playing playing with the ones until week three

1301
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 3: and so or after week three, and so this is

1302
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 3: these are things that are come. I am by In

1303
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 3: no way am I down on Jackson Dart.

1304
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: I think he's a rookie.

1305
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 3: He is going to be fantastic for this team, and

1306
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 3: I know in time, you're everybody's gonna love him as

1307
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 3: a player. He has all the tools and we see him.

1308
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 3: He's just also a rookie and it's sometimes going to

1309
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 3: make bad mistakes. Yeah, And look, I like the aggression,

1310
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 3: and I like the fact that he attacked him.

1311
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: And look the bottom line, Look, he was held by

1312
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: a defensive pats in deference penalty. But they did score

1313
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: a touchdown with thirty seven seconds, yes left to go

1314
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: in the game to win this game.

1315
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 2: So I think that has to encourage you.

1316
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: All Right, folks, if you're with us on our radio network,

1317
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna say goodbye, So please stick with us. If

1318
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: you're listening on our local flagship WFAN, we're gonna go

1319
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: for another hour, so we're gonna take your calls. We

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Speaker 1: still got a lot more audio from the locker room

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Speaker 1: to get to a really important game, a big game.

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Speaker 2: We want to hear from all the players in the

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Speaker 2: locker room.

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Speaker 1: But right now it's time to say goodbye to our

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Speaker 1: affiliates across the country. On the Giants Radio Network, our

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Speaker 1: next broadcast will be next Sunday when the Giants travel

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Speaker 1: to Philadelphia to take on the Eagles for the second

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Speaker 1: time in three weeks on the network. Our pregame will

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Speaker 1: begin at noon. Thanks for listening to us today. If

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Speaker 1: you want Giants coverage during the week, again, stay tuned.

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Speaker 2: Big Bill Kickoff Live comes away.

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Speaker 1: Every day on giants dot Com and the Giants Mobile

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Speaker 1: at at twelve thirty Giants YouTube channel as well. Also

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Speaker 1: tune in for the Giants Uttle podcast as well. And again,

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Speaker 1: we'll see you next week at noon, the Giants lose

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Speaker 1: to the Denver Broncos thirty three to thirty two. To

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Speaker 1: our affiliates, We'll see you next week on the WFN

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Speaker 1: Giants Radio Network. But if you're with us, here in

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Speaker 1: New York and you're unhappy, and you're ranking, and you

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Speaker 1: need someone to talk to. You can pick up the

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Speaker 1: phone and get us a call at eighty eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight oh eight, one zero, one to nine. We'll take

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Speaker 1: your calls. We will get more of you, open the

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Speaker 1: locker room and a whole lot more, some highlights, talk

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Speaker 1: about all the aspects of what was a wild game

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Speaker 1: as the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Lose to the Denver Broncos thirty three to thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Will be right back taking more of your calls right

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Speaker 2: after this on the fan.

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Speaker 27: This is Brian Burns and you're listening to Giants football

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Speaker 27: on the fan w f A n and w f

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Speaker 27: A N FM, New York.

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Speaker 2: You're on Giants Extra point. John sh Milch, Tiki Barber

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01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 2: with you. The New York Giants fall to the Denver

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Speaker 2: Broncos thirty three to thirty two.

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Speaker 1: We were opening the phones at eight eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: oh eight one zero one nine.

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Speaker 2: All right, we have a lot of audio from the

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Speaker 2: locker room here.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we go to Brian Burns next here Connor,

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01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: he's one of the defensive leaders on this team. Let's

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Speaker 1: hear what he had to say after this Giants lost

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Speaker 1: to the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 5: Brian, you were very emotional then here when we got

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Speaker 5: in Yep. What was going through your mind is no

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Speaker 5: way he losday games. Mhm. I mean credit to the Broncos.

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Speaker 12: So you know, uh.

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Speaker 5: Cuting the way they did, but we gave that it

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Speaker 5: then there was no way they supposed to win that game.

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Speaker 5: What did you what did What do you think happened?

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Speaker 5: For your perspective, how did it happen?

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Speaker 27: Yeah, some falling and soldiers, you know, it's some I

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Speaker 27: ain't even gonna critique that we just didn't execute well enough.

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Speaker 27: I feel like we got put in a position where

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Speaker 27: we could have won. We coulda took the game, but

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Speaker 27: we gave it back to 'em. I put that all

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Speaker 27: on us. We gotta play better. I know Dave's gonna

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Speaker 27: take the blame, and Dave's gone his fault and this

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Speaker 27: and that. Uh, at the end of the day, we

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Speaker 27: playing and we gotta make that play. They was in

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Speaker 27: the position where they was at the disadvantage.

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Speaker 12: So that's how I fault.

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Speaker 7: I could also give me, Uh, you missed the act

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Speaker 7: of points at a one point game.

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Speaker 27: Put your say With all that, I come down to

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Speaker 27: us playing with daves can't make a kick go, we

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Speaker 27: can't make a kick?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 7: He execute and defensively how manyeen h nineteen up?

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Speaker 26: Okay after three quarters and it looked like you guys

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Speaker 26: who couldn't put your shut out?

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Speaker 27: You played amazing, Yeah for three quarters. Fourth quarter wasn't enough?

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Speaker 27: Uh it well we gave up thirty three points in.

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Speaker 7: Wore Yeah, did you try to do three field?

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Speaker 23: Guys start to press when maybe like the first time

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Speaker 23: came the first touchdown was scored, and then the second

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Speaker 23: touchdown where you said pressed pressed, you get pressed the issue,

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Speaker 23: anything like that in the first quick issue where maybe

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Speaker 23: trying to force the issue or guys trying to do

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Speaker 23: too much, not doing there one eleventh trying to talk

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Speaker 23: to me, Oh you're good. The when things started to spire, ye.

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Speaker 23: Do you feel like guys started to press a little

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Speaker 23: bit in that moment, trying to to stop it all

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Speaker 23: with one play and that led to maybe worse No?

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Speaker 5: Uh and oh actually really, I just.

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Speaker 27: I just feel like we didn't preciate your brother. I

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Speaker 27: just feel like we didn't execute well enough. And that's

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Speaker 27: just what it come down to. Maybe it might have

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Speaker 27: been a so since it's getting a little comfortable. We

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Speaker 27: had a decent lead, nice sized lead. We got a

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Speaker 27: you know, like we've been there before. You can't can't

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Speaker 27: let up because you could see what just happened. And

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Speaker 27: that's a tough loss for me.

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Speaker 11: Brian.

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Speaker 6: Why do you think this team in this defense has

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01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 6: struggled to finish off wins?

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Speaker 5: This one?

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Speaker 2: The Dallas on?

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry I moving around here.

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Speaker 14: It's huh that's right, yeah, w Why do you think

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Speaker 14: this team in this defense has struggled to finish off

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Speaker 14: wins the Dallas game?

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Speaker 5: Now this game, man, it's coming down to details. Man,

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Speaker 5: got detailed the enough.

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Speaker 27: You can't play three quarters of amazing defense or a

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01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 27: great defense and and you know give it all the

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01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 27: way in the end, that's just shoot yourself in the foot.

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Speaker 5: Like we played great until to the work order.

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Speaker 11: How you up with all that and giving up thirty points?

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Speaker 7: You know your guys took the lead to do that, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yet thirty one seconds eleven?

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Speaker 5: Yup?

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Speaker 11: Did you feel this is the chance for the defense

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Speaker 11: to finally put the hammer down here?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I did, and we didn't execute. Like I said,

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Speaker 5: This is a t that's a tough ass. Loss.

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Speaker 27: Bro, It's just like emotions going up and down to

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Speaker 27: too many times, Like I just that was that was

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Speaker 27: very That was tough.

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Speaker 11: For me, right, take two more aggressively?

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Speaker 7: How on that that series?

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Speaker 5: I don't know what of that.

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Speaker 26: Have you would have the pressure you felt you put

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01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 26: on you know it looked like, you know, like that

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01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 26: in those two passes, pons had time.

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01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 5: Your throat it was rushing through. You've dropped eight.

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Speaker 6: Have you ever had this emotional this emotional reaction to

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01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 6: a game for yourself?

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01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 27: What it's usually games like this, games where you're supposed

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01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 27: to win. Dallas, I was a little motion not just tough,

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Speaker 27: but as for that one, but it's just it's just

1452
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 27: emotions going up and down and that quicker for spanning.

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01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 27: Then you wind up not getting a result that you want.

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Speaker 5: It's tough.

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Speaker 1: I will quote Brian Burns and I think he sums

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Speaker 1: up all Giant fans feeling after tonight's game or today's game.

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Speaker 2: Tough ass loss.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, it was a tough one because for three quarters

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Speaker 3: they played great and then when it came down to it,

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Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos took advantage of whether it was the

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Speaker 3: fatigue or.

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Speaker 2: The scheme, and they made big play after big play

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Speaker 2: after big.

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Speaker 3: Play and scored a ton of points in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 3: something that I didn't think was possible for them against

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Speaker 3: this giant defense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we were watching this game, Tiki, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think any either one of us had to feeling

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Speaker 1: that the Broncos through three quarters. We get a sat

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Speaker 1: here for twelve quarters and we didn't think the Broncos

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Speaker 1: would get to thirty three points.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're right, And you know, at some point

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01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,799
Speaker 3: in this game, and I think anybody who was watching

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01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 3: this game probably felt the same thing. You start looking

1476
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:19,520
Speaker 3: at the clock, right, you start saying, how many more times.

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Speaker 2: Do we have to make stops?

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01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 3: And if we do X, Y or Z, does that

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01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 3: guarantee that winning this game? And I think I'm not

1480
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 3: saying from a player standpoint they did that, but it

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01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 3: sounded like that's what Brian Burns was talking about when

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Speaker 3: he says, look, complacency sets in.

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Speaker 1: You got to learn how to win this win in

1484
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: this league, and it's fighting through the end of games.

1485
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's hard.

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01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 3: It is hard to win in the NFL, especially on

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01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 3: the road against a very good team like that or

1488
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 3: at least a good defense like the Denver Broncos have,

1489
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 3: and the Giants just didn't do it. And it's on

1490
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 3: them as players, and it's also on the coaching staff

1491
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 3: to get them in the right position to make those

1492
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 3: plays or motivate them or whatever it may be. And

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01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 3: they didn't come through. And it hurts because this is

1494
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 3: a game they should have won. It's not dissimilar to

1495
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 3: the Saints game. It's the game they should have won.

1496
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 3: They gave it away to the opponent, opposing team, and

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01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 3: that's something that sits heavy on people's chests for sure.

1498
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the phones eight eight eight

1499
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: eight oh eight one zero one nine, and we'll lead

1500
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: off with our good buddy Harvey and Dix Hills.

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01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 2: Harvey, what's going on, Pal?

1502
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 29: I had to throw out my notes.

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01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 2: There are no notes for this one, Harvey, right, Oh

1504
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 2: my god.

1505
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 29: I couldn't find the other ones either.

1506
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 2: Give me medication you could take, perhaps, I'll tell you

1507
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 2: what you know?

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01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 29: Players, and you get sick. We fans do also, of course. Yeah,

1509
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 29: I feel sick to my stomach right now.

1510
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 20: Yeah.

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01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 2: You just want to win. And it doesn't matter that

1512
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 2: it only makes them if they would have won three

1513
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: and four.

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01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 3: They're still way out of the playoff conversation, but a

1515
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 3: win feels good and the Giants one position for eighty

1516
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 3: five percent of this game to make their Giant fans

1517
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 3: and themselves feel good about winning.

1518
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 29: Before I get to a couple of points, Schmidz was out.

1519
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 29: Who was the long snapper on the kicks? They have

1520
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 29: a new long snapper who's doing you know, it's hard

1521
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 29: when you're watching TV.

1522
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 2: No, No, schmid is not their long snapper, Harvey.

1523
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 29: They have a new long snap who's snapping those things?

1524
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: Casey Crider's been there for a few years now. He's

1525
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 1: a excellent He's been a long snapping the NFL for

1526
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: over ten years. He's a really really good player.

1527
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 29: I apologize that. Yeah, but but the you know, we

1528
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 29: have a rookie quarterback who I love. But I'll tell

1529
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 29: you what, Kofker is not a rookie play caller, Okay,

1530
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 29: And the bottom line is should he be passing so

1531
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 29: much at the end of the game instead of running

1532
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:34,440
Speaker 29: which brings me the Ticky.

1533
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 2: Bomber pass once?

1534
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 29: Yeah, I know, my life Ticky he wrote that my

1535
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 29: life in the game.

1536
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, right, I I I do it.

1537
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 29: My memory, you have said that because of the West

1538
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 29: Coast offense, there was no need for a full back.

1539
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 29: You know, I think I think Paul and I both

1540
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 29: the only two left. I think you need call a

1541
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 29: full back down, especially at the end of the game

1542
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 29: year so you.

1543
01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 2: Could run the football.

1544
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 3: You can get a lead blocker to take the shot

1545
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 3: away from the running back and maybe he gets a

1546
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 3: couple of extra yards.

1547
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 2: Look, Daniel Bellinger does that for them, Harvey, you know,

1548
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 2: but you.

1549
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 29: Know, sometimes I use two tight ends instead. But I

1550
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 29: don't think that replaces a big fullback who could run

1551
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 29: and block.

1552
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 2: No Harvey, by the way, and and and then you

1553
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 2: can finish your point on Bowen.

1554
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: College doesn't produce full backs anymore either. They they don't

1555
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: exist on any level of football anymore.

1556
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, what you're getting is converted defensive linemen or offensive

1557
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 3: lineman athletic offensive or defensive linemen that are playing fullback.

1558
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 3: And the reason you I used to love a fullback

1559
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 3: is because the momentum that a full back has in

1560
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 3: going into his block is different than an in line

1561
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 3: tight end. You get a running start, you get a

1562
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 3: running as simple as that, it's a running start in

1563
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 3: the movement happens a little bit more aggressively when there's

1564
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 3: a fullback coming downhill.

1565
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 2: But it's just too many.

1566
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 3: There's too much risk in taking a skill position player

1567
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 3: off the field for a full back.

1568
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 2: That's the problem.

1569
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 29: But you know, before you get the shame ball, you

1570
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 29: know what drives me nuts? You know, I'm so jealous

1571
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 29: of people like Tiki Barber who have that kind of

1572
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 29: talent that we that we can only dream of. Okay,

1573
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 29: And one of the things that bothered me are tight

1574
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 29: ends that drop balls. They don't get the balls. They

1575
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 29: they have twice the size of my hands. They don't

1576
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 29: seem to catch a ball right, And and running back

1577
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 29: and remember ticking and the I think Ingram and uh

1578
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 29: and Confland have told you to carry a ball high

1579
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 29: up in a chest, not on the cook of the arm.

1580
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:26,879
Speaker 29: Never forget that quote.

1581
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 19: From a book.

1582
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 29: And I see I see running backs and receivers catching

1583
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 29: the ball like a loaf of bread. Still to this

1584
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 29: day it drives me nuts.

1585
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 2: I hear you. What's your point on balling real quick? Harvey?

1586
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 29: Be that yeah, yeah, I know. I mentioned a previous

1587
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 29: call that that the player, the players have start had

1588
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 29: to tell him that he's not aggressive enough, and John Newtt,

1589
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 29: you were smart enough at the the last call to

1590
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 29: say that they don't blitz enough.

1591
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 30: How do you, how do you?

1592
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 29: How do all of you evaluate Chaine Boone's defense. I'm

1593
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 29: not a I'm not a coach.

1594
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 3: I thought, look, I thought he was I thought he

1595
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 3: was great to start for most of this game. But

1596
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 3: I think when things got desperate and you're trying to

1597
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 3: protect the lead, he changed his stripes, right, And when

1598
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 3: you change your stripes it creates this air of.

1599
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 2: Relaxation and a team.

1600
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 3: And I think the mo of this giant defense that

1601
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 3: we saw for eighty percent of this game was we're

1602
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 3: getting after bo Nicks, we are getting after this run game.

1603
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 3: They couldn't do anything on the ground. Every single the

1604
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 3: bubble screens, the quick screens that Sean Payton kept calling.

1605
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 3: They were aggressive at the line of scrim that's attacking

1606
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 3: the skill position players for the Denver Broncos.

1607
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:38,839
Speaker 2: But then when it came down.

1608
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,759
Speaker 3: To it at the end, you're playing passive and it's

1609
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 3: so when you change your mo, you're all of a

1610
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 3: sudden asking these guys who were giving it, they're all

1611
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 3: to get after the quarterback, get after the skill position

1612
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 3: players for the Broncos to just chill and just make

1613
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 3: easy plays.

1614
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 2: Now, and I don't love that. I got you.

1615
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the situations and I'm gonna try to

1616
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: break it down by quarter here for everybody in terms

1617
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: of when these things happen, so over the course of

1618
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: the entire game. This is early charting by Pro Football Focus.

1619
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 1: This is Week seven, right, So Giants only blitzed ten

1620
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: of sixty one pass plays in this game.

1621
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 2: Yes, that's sixteen percent. So now I'm gonna look.

1622
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 3: But it wasn't the blitzing that was making the difference.

1623
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 3: It was the aggression with which they were playing in

1624
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 3: their zones like they were tight.

1625
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: They weren't worried about the deep ball.

1626
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, we do not right now have They don't have

1627
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 1: any like coverage scheme percentages up yet this early after

1628
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: the game, so I can't give you any of that.

1629
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 1: I could tell you in the fourth quarter of this game,

1630
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: the Giants had ten blitzes overall. How many of those

1631
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: blitzeres came in the fourth quarter five of the ten,

1632
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: so they actually half of their ten.

1633
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 2: Blitzes came in the fourth quarter. It didn't feel like that. Again,

1634
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: I would have to go back and look at it

1635
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 2: again to see. This is tough. When you watch it

1636
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 2: on TV.

1637
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: You can't see what the secondary's doing on these plays,

1638
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: on a lot of these plays, so I'd have to

1639
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 1: look at it again. Obviously the results aren't what you want.

1640
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: But look tick and I looked at it. I don't

1641
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: think the plate to mimes over the middle was a

1642
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: scheme issuear to me.

1643
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a skinning.

1644
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: It was just a good play by the Denver broncos

1645
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: bo Nicks has had that. He has that that throw

1646
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: in him. He did it a lot last year and

1647
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: they just got beat. The Giants got beat by the throw.

1648
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: Drew Phillips got beat by the throat of him, Tyler Nuban.

1649
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 3: And Tyler Nuban just whether he didn't sink enough or

1650
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 3: he was worried about the dig coming underneath this the

1651
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 3: you know this the same route.

1652
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 2: He just he he didn't sag enough to get into

1653
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 2: the way of that throw. Yeah, absolutely, all right, let's

1654
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 2: go to nas in Pennsylvania. He's up next. What's up, Nas?

1655
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 31: Hey, guys, how you doing today? Will appreciate the tim

1656
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 31: and the calls always We're going a couple of points

1657
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 31: real quick. Just want to with a early happy Heaven,

1658
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 31: leave his birth day to my father, missed him every day.

1659
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 31: Wanted to just wanted to throw that out there, and uh,

1660
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 31: I all wanted to kind of just tie two things

1661
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,879
Speaker 31: together if I can. When Jackson dart Or that touchdown

1662
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 31: late in the game, I had an immediate flashback of

1663
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 31: when I was a kid in one of my first,

1664
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 31: you know, really early memories of watching this team, when

1665
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 31: Eli Manning through that touchdown pass to a Moni Tumor

1666
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,759
Speaker 31: against the Denver Broncos. And I don't know if Amni

1667
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 31: Tumor listens to the airwaves or anything like that on WSAM.

1668
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 31: I know he works with the Giants, but.

1669
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 2: You're not actually believe it or not. Amani was in

1670
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 2: the building with us today doing the postgame show on TV.

1671
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 31: Yes, well I really I hope whoever, maybe if he's

1672
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 31: still in the building or still listening in the car

1673
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 31: or anything like that. I really appreciate that memory from

1674
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 31: Amani Tumor. And I was even wearing the Amani Tumor

1675
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 31: jersey today for that game. So when Jackson scored that

1676
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 31: touchdown late, I was just having an immediate flashback about that.

1677
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 31: But I guess if we're just going to really talk

1678
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 31: about the game here, and it's a lot to kind

1679
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 31: of you know unwind here and the litany of things,

1680
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 31: the negative plays and the positive thing. I really I'm

1681
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 31: really looking forward to how this team now responds, especially

1682
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 31: with the rookies. I really want to see how they

1683
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 31: attack practice, just attack the preparation, and see if they're

1684
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 31: still engaged right, still have the confidence. And I really

1685
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 31: hope that they do because we've been dying for relevant

1686
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 31: football for so long that I think all of us

1687
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 31: as Giants fans have really forgotten how hard these losses

1688
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 31: are to really take. Now with the relevant football and

1689
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 31: the relevant wins and the relevant losses, so we got

1690
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 31: a taste of it, and we also got a reminder

1691
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 31: of how hard those games could really be. So I'm

1692
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 31: really hoping that they can put it behind them and

1693
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 31: really just keep you know, pushing on the gas and

1694
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 31: move forward to a huge game against the Philadelphia Eagles

1695
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 31: in the division in the conference.

1696
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 3: No, you're right, man, And it's interesting because last year

1697
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 3: we remember how bad it was to watch these Giant games.

1698
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 3: It just it wasn't competitive football. This is competitive football.

1699
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 3: This is the This is in the category of man,

1700
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 3: what a game, But you lost, not you need to

1701
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 3: have a chance.

1702
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 2: And it hurts more.

1703
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: You would still rather lose horse away than be staring

1704
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: at a thirty five to twelve to thirteen deficited the

1705
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: fourth quarter.

1706
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, But the reality is in this new era,

1707
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 3: this Jackson Dart era, as we keep calling it, the

1708
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 3: Giants are.

1709
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 2: Two and two, and the two losses are on them.

1710
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 3: It's directly on They lost the games by giving the

1711
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 3: ball away against the Saints and by not being tight

1712
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 3: enough in the moments that mattered. And again I always

1713
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 3: talk about moments. There are moments in this game where

1714
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 3: Giants players and coaches had chances to take a full,

1715
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 3: firm grasp and win this thing, and they didn't do it.

1716
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 2: And so it's like this inconsistency.

1717
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 3: It's you have, you know, one good game, then you

1718
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 3: have a bad one, then you have a good one,

1719
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 3: then you have a bad one, and you know it

1720
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 3: lines up for a good one against the Philadelphia Eagles.

1721
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 3: But I think NAS's is exactly right. Failures happened. Man

1722
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,560
Speaker 3: who cares life is full of them. How do you

1723
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 3: respond to them?

1724
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 2: Is the answer? And This is going to be a

1725
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 2: tough one to respond to because of how I think,

1726
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 2: despondent and beat up you feel about this emotionally.

1727
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know the Eagle is going to be

1728
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 1: out for blooded one hundred last game to the Giants.

1729
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 1: By the way, Elias bo Nick's the first player in

1730
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 1: NFL history to have two or more rushing touchdowns and

1731
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 1: two or more passing touchdowns in a fourth quarter in

1732
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: the history of the National Football.

1733
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 3: Doesn't feel like he's that good of a quarterback. And

1734
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 3: that's what the Giants allowed him to do.

1735
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 2: Let's go to Jonathan and Montclair. He's up next, Jonathan.

1736
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1737
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 32: Good evening, guys, how are you?

1738
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 2: We're good.

1739
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 19: So.

1740
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 32: I've been a lifelong Giant fan for I'm fifty years old,

1741
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 32: so a long long time, seeing some ups and downs.

1742
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 32: I really believe this is, unfortunately, just the losing culture,

1743
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 32: and it starts with the head coach.

1744
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 5: He's got a.

1745
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:53,759
Speaker 32: Thirty six percent winning record with the New York Giants.

1746
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 32: He has faith and a defensive coordinator who I don't

1747
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 32: believe it is utilizing the talent that they have on defense.

1748
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 32: This is a much better defense than what we've seen

1749
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 32: so far this year, and I think he's got to

1750
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 32: make at some point some decisions here, whether it's firing

1751
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 32: the defensive coordinator tomorrow, cutting Tay Banks, who didn't even

1752
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 32: want to make a tack on Evan Ingram. But if

1753
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 32: you can't send some type of signal to the players

1754
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 32: who are in there hustling and trying their very best

1755
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 32: to make this team as competitive as possible. And I

1756
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 32: don't know if you guys saw Brian Burns yelling at

1757
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 32: the end of the game. These guys are frustrated, and

1758
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 32: I think he's going to lose the locker room. And

1759
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 32: you know they don't want to publicly call him out

1760
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 32: because they're professionals. But you've been in locker rooms. I

1761
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 32: know you've been there before, and anyone who's played sports

1762
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 32: at one point or another, it's the coaches that put

1763
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 32: players in the right position.

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01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 30: To win games.

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01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 32: This coach doesn't do it. The other coach made adjustments

1766
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 32: in the second half and he finally figured out it

1767
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 32: in the fourth quarter and they beat us.

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01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was out coach less.

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01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 3: Sean Payton finally, let look, Sean Payton is coaching very

1770
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 3: differently than I've ever seen him.

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Speaker 5: Coach.

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Speaker 3: And this goes back to the Jet game last week,

1773
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 3: which I watched, and when you evaluated, it was like, man,

1774
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 3: he was just leading on his defense, which is shackles

1775
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 3: on his quarterback, which is so different from what you

1776
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 3: saw even a year ago with a rookie in bow Knicks.

1777
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 3: And so you're right, he is limiting the aggression with it.

1778
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 3: He's playing with his young quarterback, but when it came

1779
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 3: to desperation time, he let him free. And let's be real,

1780
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart, I mean, bo Nicks responded to that, and

1781
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,799
Speaker 3: he made some really good throws and some really good plays,

1782
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 3: and he was aggressive with his legs and you know,

1783
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 3: as far as it pertains to to Shane Bowen, yeah,

1784
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 3: he's gotta he's gotta earn it, I think every week.

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01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 1: The confidence of his team and put him in position

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Speaker 1: to play great football.

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Speaker 3: Now, in fairness to Deontay Banks, that was not Deante

1788
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 3: Banks who did not push Evan Ingram out of bounds.

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01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,560
Speaker 3: That was Drew Phillips who kind of I don't know

1790
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 3: what that was powder puff two hand touch that he

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01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 3: had on Evan Ingram.

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01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 2: Now, Banks was blocked further down the field. He was

1793
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 2: blocked down the field.

1794
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 3: But the play is for Drew Phillips to just ram

1795
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 3: Evan Ingram out of bounce correct and didn't put a

1796
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 3: shoulder on him. He just put his hands on him.

1797
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 3: Look he was playing two hand touch. It did look

1798
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 3: like he was playing two hand touch. And he goes

1799
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 3: on and picks up another eleven or twelve yards And

1800
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 3: so at that moment in the game, every single yard matters.

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01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 2: And the thing I wrote down as I saw that

1802
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 2: was effort. That's effort. And I don't know what that is.

1803
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 3: Is it fatigue because of the altitude, maybe because fatigue

1804
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 3: makes coward of even the greatest of men. And that

1805
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 3: seemed to bite the Giants when it mattered, And it's

1806
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,799
Speaker 3: only because the Denver Broncos were playing at a heightened

1807
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 3: desperate level that the Giants couldn't match in the fourth quarter.

1808
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 3: And it's and I don't need any other statistic to

1809
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 3: tell you that than the score they scored thirty three points.

1810
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 2: And look, I'll throw two other things out here.

1811
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 1: Tek We've seen too many games this year where the

1812
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 1: opposing team, and now it hasn't been every game against

1813
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers, they went into must pass situations and the

1814
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 1: Giants defensive line dominated and they shut that game down

1815
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: last week. And again this is this might be an

1816
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: Eagles thing. They just can't really throw the ball consistently

1817
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 1: this year at all. Yeah, but we have seen in

1818
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: games this year too many times when the opposing team

1819
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: gets down in the game and they decide, all right, look,

1820
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: we just got to start throwing the ball here. Whether

1821
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 1: it's the Giants secondary and their coverage is too loose

1822
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: and they can't stay with their guys and they're allowing

1823
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 1: guys to beat them in one on one situations, or

1824
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: it's the Giants pastor is not putting enough consistent.

1825
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: Pressure on the quarterback. We've seen still too many situations

1826
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 2: this year.

1827
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: And I go back to that Dallas game specific right,

1828
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: I think he's too cute when when when teams decide

1829
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: to throw the ball in the Giants, I think I

1830
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: think Giants don't sold them down.

1831
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 2: I think Bowen gets too cute.

1832
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 3: He starts overthinking it and starts saying, all right, I'm

1833
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 3: going to play a defense. It keeps everything in front

1834
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,480
Speaker 3: of me. And instead of doing instead of playing aggressive

1835
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 3: like he had the whole game, and he might, I

1836
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 3: say aggressive, he's not bringing a ton of pressure. It's

1837
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 3: just keeping guys flat, and you know, keeping guys in

1838
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,719
Speaker 3: zones that are that are competitive zones. So you're forcing,

1839
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,560
Speaker 3: you know, plays that go behind you to really have

1840
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 3: to have to work for it for it to be successful.

1841
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 3: And when you drop back fifteen yards there's.

1842
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: A ton of space expanding. Zone coverages are quarterback's best friend.

1843
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 3: And you kept doing that in moments when it mattered

1844
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 3: the most, and Bo Nicks and the Denver Broncos took

1845
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 3: advantage of it.

1846
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick time out. We'll come back.

1847
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 1: Take some more of your calls. We'll play some more

1848
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,800
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1853
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1855
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 4: Radio Network.

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01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 9: This is Daniel Bellinger and you're listening to Giants Football

1857
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 9: on the Fan Wfan and Wfan FM, New York.

1858
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 2: Back here on Giants extra point.

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01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: John Smelt Tiki Barber with you, Bobby Ocaake, one of

1860
01:26:58,720 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 1: the Giants team captains.

1861
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 2: He had rest of the media in the locker room.

1862
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 2: Matter the game.

1863
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 10: Oh, it's played extremely well today. Put us in great

1864
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 10: situations for the most of the game. Uh, and we

1865
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 10: just got to do a better job executing critical situations,

1866
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 10: getting off the field, just playing to the situation. And yeah,

1867
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 10: just you know, tough, tough plays that hurt us that

1868
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 10: those are those are those are make or ring plays

1869
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 10: to win games.

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01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 6: How you're explaining that that switch where you guys are

1871
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 6: shutting them up for the three quarters and then all

1872
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 6: of those points to the point, what do you think changed?

1873
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 10: I mean, they're a good team, shout out to bo

1874
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 10: Nicks and good quarterback, may have a good offense. You know,

1875
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 10: they caught a little rhythm there, probably tried to exploit

1876
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 10: some stuff at what we were doing. And like I said,

1877
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 10: they just executed better than us in critical situations and

1878
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 10: just made more plays than us.

1879
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 5: To win the game. Yeah.

1880
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 11: There you gave up the lead.

1881
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 26: Yeah, it didn't look good and then you guys improbably

1882
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,719
Speaker 26: go down and get the lead again. Thirty four, thirty

1883
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 26: six thirty seven seconds ago.

1884
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 9: Did you that was your last You know, that was

1885
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 9: your real opportunity for this defense to make amends for

1886
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 9: that fourth quarter and you know put.

1887
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 2: An end to this.

1888
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, hundre percent. I mean we got great trust and

1889
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 10: belief in our offense. I thought they put some great

1890
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 10: situations for majority of the game. And you know, as

1891
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 10: a team, we expect to be in dogfights. We know

1892
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 10: seven percent of these games come down to win score less,

1893
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 10: so you know we expect to be in a fourth

1894
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 10: quarter battle and they just executed better than us critical

1895
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 10: situations to win the game.

1896
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 11: Bobby, you've been around this game a long long time.

1897
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 10: Fortunately the last couple of years, you guys have been

1898
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 10: on the losing end of this What is there gonna

1899
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 10: be a time tonight where you just kind of.

1900
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 7: Look at at this result and say, how do we

1901
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 7: how do we let that happen?

1902
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 6: Uh?

1903
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 10: No, you got to compartmentalize miss emotional game. Obviously it's tough.

1904
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 10: We'll take our twenty four hours to feel the wait

1905
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 10: and impact of this one, because this is one we

1906
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 10: really wanted to have and when we thought that we

1907
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 10: were gonna get. But we'll go about our process. We've

1908
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 10: got a great opponent in Philly next week. We know

1909
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 10: they're very excited for the challenge actually after the first game,

1910
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 10: so we just got to clean up the details, details,

1911
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 10: especially on defense, execution, executing critical situations. And at the

1912
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 10: end of the day, it comes down to making those

1913
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 10: players in critical situations, which.

1914
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,600
Speaker 2: They did and the Giants defense did not. Ticky, No,

1915
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 2: they did not not in the critical situations. And look,

1916
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:17,799
Speaker 2: Bobby is really good at being.

1917
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 3: Mister politicians, saying all the right things, and he controls

1918
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 3: his emotions, which is a good thing. And by the way,

1919
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 3: they need that. They need guys like that, especially coming

1920
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 3: into this up this week. And you're always the same,

1921
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 3: no matter what right you're you're.

1922
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 2: You don't get high, you don't get low.

1923
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 3: You just stay exactly where you are and you call

1924
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 3: it like you see it, meaning you got to be critical,

1925
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 3: but you're not gonna get emotional about it. And I

1926
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 3: think having a guy like him is important because there's

1927
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 3: a lot of emotion that's gonna swirl around this win.

1928
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 3: There's a lot you heard it from some of the

1929
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 3: guys in the locker room, like we're not supposed to

1930
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 3: lose that game, Like Brian Burns said, when you have

1931
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 3: that big of a lead and you just take some introspection,

1932
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,640
Speaker 3: some you know, self evaluation and what do we need

1933
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 3: to do?

1934
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 1: How do we get better and finished games? That's what

1935
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 1: this team needs to figure out how to do. All right,

1936
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 1: Let's go to salond Yonkers. He's up next, Sally, Hello.

1937
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 20: Ticky Hull John another painful loss, very you know this room.

1938
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 20: This this reminds me of the San Francisco game where

1939
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 20: Jeremy Shockey we were playing twenty Yeah, but that was.

1940
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 2: The playoffs and there was a lot more than that one.

1941
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 2: You're on your oneing that game, right, of course, Trey Junkin.

1942
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 2: There was another one we lost, Richie.

1943
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 20: Where does a Shawn Jackson?

1944
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the punt the punt return return.

1945
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 20: And the other one we lost was with twenty two

1946
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 20: seconds left against the Minnesota Vikings. We lost that with

1947
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 20: twenty two seconds left, we were ahead and wound up

1948
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 20: losing that. What a pain another day and every time

1949
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 20: we lose, we're black the next day because I'm so

1950
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 20: distraught and in mourning when we lose. And you know,

1951
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 20: I'll tell you one next gen stat had this one,

1952
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 20: all right, The Broncos win probability. Hey, with six thirty

1953
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 20: eight left in the fourth quarter, I can't and three

1954
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 20: trailing twenty six to eight. They had a zero point

1955
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 20: seven chance of winning.

1956
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 2: So you're telling me there was a chance, But there

1957
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 2: was a there was a chance.

1958
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 5: There was a chance.

1959
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 20: Giants defense blew You know. That was another thing too.

1960
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 20: They went out Denver, went to the Coco, they played

1961
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 20: the philled up Eagles, and I figured, all, they're gonna

1962
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 20: get beat up there, and then they had to go

1963
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 20: to London and play the Jets and then fly back.

1964
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:39,719
Speaker 20: I said, perfect, we could win this game because they're flying,

1965
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 20: they're gonna be dead beat and our defense looked like

1966
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 20: at the end that few the ones that went to London.

1967
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting that you say that because you think

1968
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 3: about the last three weeks for the Denver Broncos, and

1969
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 3: let's give them credit, because whether you think they're a

1970
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 3: good team or not, it doesn't matter. They're five and

1971
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 3: two on their season. Their two losses came against probably

1972
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 3: the two the best teams uh in the in the

1973
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 3: AFC right now, and they were both on the road

1974
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 3: at the Indianapolis.

1975
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,759
Speaker 2: Colts, who are six and one right now. The Annapolis Colts,

1976
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 2: and then at the LA.

1977
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 3: Chargers, who are five and two, I believe, and they

1978
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 3: just lost to the Indianapolis Colts. So like they they're scrappy.

1979
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 3: They're not a great team that's gonna blow you away

1980
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 3: and outscore you by twenty points. But they have a

1981
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 3: tough defense and they played to the end of games.

1982
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 3: I think it's one of the things that this Giant

1983
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 3: team should aspire to be a team that can finish

1984
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 3: no matter what the circumstances are.

1985
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 2: They came from behind to beat the Philadelphia Eagles. They

1986
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:41,839
Speaker 2: they they they exactly.

1987
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 3: They struggled against the Jets in London, but but won

1988
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 3: it defensively by sacking Jalen.

1989
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 2: Not Jalen.

1990
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 3: What's his name, No, the no, the Jets quarterback Justin

1991
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 3: Justin Fields. They sacked them nine times in that game.

1992
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 3: And so then they come from behind and this game

1993
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 3: by as big as they weren't score thirty three points

1994
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. This Broncos team is pretty damn resilient,

1995
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 3: and that's a trade the Giants should want.

1996
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 1: They just don't have it yet. All right, Robbie sal

1997
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 1: that I appreciate the call. That was a great stat

1998
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna thrown another one. I emailed our boys over

1999
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:21,680
Speaker 1: at Stats about this, and I asked them when the

2000
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 1: last time a team gave up more than the Giants

2001
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 1: thirty three points to the Broncos in a fourth quarter,

2002
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 1: And their data goes back to nineteen twenty five is

2003
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 1: my understanding, And that's something they actually do a box

2004
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 1: score data four bause you have the Lion scores of

2005
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 1: even of those older games. It has happened once before

2006
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:43,639
Speaker 1: in an NFL game that was on September thirtieth, two

2007
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, the Bears playing at the Lions. At

2008
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 1: the start of the fourth quarter of that game, the

2009
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: Bears led the Lions thirteen to three. The Lions ended

2010
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 1: up winning that game thirty seven twenty seven, and the

2011
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 1: only reason, by the way, the Lions got to thirty

2012
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:05,560
Speaker 1: four points in that quarter was because they returned a

2013
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 1: desperation Bears on side kick for.

2014
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 2: A touchdown on the final play. So that's almost kind

2015
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 2: of fake. Yeah, it's not, to be honest, it's not

2016
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 2: a drive.

2017
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 1: It's not a drive for points, it's a it's a

2018
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 1: desperation on side kick after.

2019
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 3: They took the lead for points. That's interesting, and I

2020
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 3: was looking at the other ones that you had won.

2021
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 3: Was in nineteen twenty five.

2022
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:26,720
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll bring that back up forth that but that

2023
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 2: wasn't even it wasn't a competitive game.

2024
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 1: Fifty nine to nothing, fifty nine to nothing and fifty

2025
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: four to nineteen was the other one in twenty twenty two,

2026
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:35,640
Speaker 1: coltsa Cowboy.

2027
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 3: Not a competitive game, correct, right? The competitive This was

2028
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 3: a competitive game. This was a team in the Lions

2029
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 3: that came from behind to win this game. This is

2030
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 3: a team with the Broncos who came from way behind

2031
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 3: to win this game. And it sucks because this is

2032
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 3: what people are going to talk about. This is one

2033
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 3: of the the I don't want to say marquee games

2034
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 3: because it wasn't, but just the way that they won

2035
01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 3: the game is going to make people the giants and

2036
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 3: it's not something you want happening.

2037
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 2: Especially after you played so well for eighty percent of

2038
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 2: the game.

2039
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2040
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:12,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, eight anyway, one zero, one, nine. Let's go to

2041
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: a Robbie in late Success. He's up next, Robbie.

2042
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 33: Big guys, listen, you know, we can talk about all

2043
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 33: the positives in this game, but this game is on

2044
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 33: the coaching staff and I want to say something I've

2045
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 33: been a Giant fans in nineteen seventy two and my

2046
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 33: buddy from Robbie Robbie from Lake Successful abouts. I was

2047
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 33: at a game, my first game in nineteen seventy two,

2048
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 33: which the Giants beat the Phildelphia Eagle sixty two to ten.

2049
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 33: Spider lockarther than at two interceptions at them sixty years old.

2050
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 33: This is the worst game I've ever seen in my life,

2051
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 33: coached by a team that I've just complete idiots. First

2052
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 33: of all, let's talk about the decision Teak you talk

2053
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 33: about I mean, it's football, ABC, guys, you run the football.

2054
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 33: Has anybody ever learned from Russell Wilson in the Super Bowl?

2055
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 33: Have we learned from Jimmy Garoppolo in the Super Bowl

2056
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 33: and Shanahan and blowing three Super Bowl? Has anybody ever

2057
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 33: learned if you don't have to put the ball in

2058
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 33: the air, that don't do it? Okay, it's okay, you

2059
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 33: don't do it, and you force the timeouts. I mean

2060
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 33: high school coaches, I taking, you know, and I could

2061
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 33: stand on the sideline and coach that game better. Shane

2062
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 33: Bowen has got to go. Brian Dabele has got to go.

2063
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 33: If Andy Raid is on that sideline.

2064
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 20: Guys, this team is five and two, and what's going

2065
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:26,680
Speaker 20: on in the first half, the third quarter through up

2066
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 20: nineteen to nothing? Why are you going for two? Dummy?

2067
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 20: Because you could have tied the game with a field goal,

2068
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 20: but you had to try to score touchdowns because you

2069
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 20: went for two and chase the points. Brian Dabele with

2070
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 20: you sticking stupid analytics, which you can take and stick

2071
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 20: up your nose, Okay, Tinky, I mean you're gonna be

2072
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 20: on with that tomorrow and I'm telling you, yes, Look,

2073
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 20: you're not coaching. It's about scheme. Why are you rushing ten? Guys?

2074
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 20: I'm ten blitzes again and can ask you a question

2075
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:55,799
Speaker 20: at the end. Why is it that the Giants always

2076
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 20: have a problem in the secondary? Why is it every

2077
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 20: year we have a lousy secondary? What coach we have,

2078
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 20: no matter what team we do? What in the world?

2079
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 20: I just don't understand.

2080
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 1: Well, thought I thought they played better to Yeah, look,

2081
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 1: emotional Giant fan, you get up, but I get it.

2082
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 3: Look, I thought that the defense in the secondary played

2083
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 3: well in this game until Paul Sendebo gets hurt and

2084
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 3: you lose a big presence, a physical corner out there

2085
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 3: and you lost Holland von Holland, you lose earlier in

2086
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 3: the game. And look, Dame Belton played well. He came

2087
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 3: up and was very physical on a lot of those plays,

2088
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 3: but he's he's just step down from some Javon Holland.

2089
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 3: And look, he wasn't the reason that some of these

2090
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 3: big plays happened at the end of the game, but

2091
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 3: it certainly didn't help.

2092
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 5: Now.

2093
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:47,679
Speaker 3: Look, I think the issue, the issues that this team

2094
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 3: has in finishing games are real. They're not going to

2095
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 3: fire their head coach. You're not going to fire their

2096
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator in the middle of the week. But they

2097
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 3: do got to figure out how to finish games. And

2098
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 3: that's collaborative from every perspective, from players not making dumb

2099
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 3: mistakes as these as the games wind down, and also

2100
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 3: from the coaches and the decisions that they make.

2101
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:11,760
Speaker 2: And Robbie, he's right.

2102
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 3: He brought up the exact point that I talked about

2103
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 3: on the first moment of this postgame. You got to

2104
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 3: run the ball when it's third and five and you're

2105
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 3: trying to get a team to use all of their timeouts.

2106
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 3: You have a ten point lead, a two score lead.

2107
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 3: You don't need to try to be aggressive and put

2108
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 3: it in the hands of your young quarterback because he's

2109
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:32,640
Speaker 3: earned the.

2110
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:34,639
Speaker 2: Trust to do that. That doesn't mean anything.

2111
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 1: The correct play is to run the clock and play

2112
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 1: field position and not try to be aggressive, and when

2113
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 1: it and puff your chest out because you did something

2114
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 1: that made you feel good or made the quarterback feel good,

2115
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 1: win the game.

2116
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 2: The winning move was to run the ball. All right,

2117
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:53,719
Speaker 2: let's go to Ryan in massive Pequa. He's up next. Ryan.

2118
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 2: You want to air some grievances. It's not Festivus yet,

2119
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 2: but I will allow it.

2120
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 19: Hey, guys, how are you first? Let's caller? This was

2121
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 19: probably tiky. I hate to bring it up. This was

2122
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:10,680
Speaker 19: probably one of the worst losses I've seen since the

2123
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 19: two thousand and two game against the Niners. And I

2124
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 19: was a seven year old when that happened. This game

2125
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,640
Speaker 19: was just we had it. We just had it, and

2126
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 19: it just couldn't it just we couldn't figure it out.

2127
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 19: My other question is do we think we should fire

2128
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 19: Shane Bowen anytime soon? Because I've had my opinions on him,

2129
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 19: and I think he's been given too many chances and

2130
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 19: I think it's time to let.

2131
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 3: Him gott Yeah, I mean, look, they're not going to

2132
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 3: do it in the middle of the season.

2133
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:45,680
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, don't see it happening. And does he have

2134
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:46,719
Speaker 2: his flaws? Sure?

2135
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 3: I think sometimes he gets out of his comfort zone

2136
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,799
Speaker 3: and he does what he thinks feels right as opposed

2137
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 3: to knowing what is going to be best. And does

2138
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:58,640
Speaker 3: he have too much experience to be making some of

2139
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 3: those those schematic decisions. Yeah, he does, but they're not

2140
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 3: going to fire him. I know that feels like the

2141
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 3: emotional thing to do at this moment, but it's not.

2142
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 2: Going to happen. It Wit one zero one nine.

2143
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:12,519
Speaker 1: Let's take one more call, but before we will go

2144
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 1: to break and say what's up to Steve in Rockland?

2145
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 2: Steve, what's going on?

2146
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 20: Well, you know, Tiki, you made some great points. I

2147
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:26,839
Speaker 20: think another thing that really bothered me was when he overthrew.

2148
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:29,560
Speaker 20: Want to tell Robinson, that's probably a pass right that

2149
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 20: he's been making since he's six years old.

2150
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 2: Right, right, He's just got to learn how to do

2151
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 2: that on this level. And then when they get the

2152
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 2: Hiatt a few plays, yeah, and one.

2153
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 3: The Hyatt was the one that I think was so

2154
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 3: well set up because he drew he looked left the

2155
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 3: entire time trying to keep the safety and the backside

2156
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 3: deep player away from Jalen Hyatt, and he just didn't

2157
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 3: put enough air under it because he thought he couldn't

2158
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 3: throw it long enough. And that happens because he had

2159
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 3: underthrown at least two, maybe three of his other deep

2160
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 3: shots in previous games. So he just has to get

2161
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:04,719
Speaker 3: he's got to get more.

2162
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 2: Reps doing that.

2163
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:07,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's I don't know when the

2164
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 3: rep time happens for that. You can't do it in

2165
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 3: the middle of weeks because you're you're game planning, and

2166
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 3: you know, these are things that happened in the off

2167
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 3: seasons or in training camp, and it just wasn't part

2168
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 3: of the plan early because Russell Wilson was slotted in

2169
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 3: to be the starting quarterback, you know.

2170
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 20: And I don't think that other teams are gonna mock

2171
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 20: the Giants as much as they're not gonna ever let

2172
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 20: their guard down against the Broncos. That's one thing. And

2173
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 20: the other thing is that you know, you do a

2174
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 20: show during the week, right and especially during baseball right

2175
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,720
Speaker 20: and especially during baseball seasons. One of the things that

2176
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,600
Speaker 20: you get to hear all the time. Are people complaining

2177
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:52,679
Speaker 20: about a certain New York Yankee manager and his comments

2178
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 20: after the game?

2179
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,560
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, it's all right in

2180
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 2: front of us.

2181
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 20: Right, wait, because this is relevant, all right. The different

2182
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 20: between him and Brian Dable is that his team win

2183
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:09,719
Speaker 20: like sixty two to sixty five percent of the time, right, okay,

2184
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:13,600
Speaker 20: and they're always in the mix to compete for the

2185
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:19,640
Speaker 20: championship in their sport. All right. And I'm tired of

2186
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 20: his postgame just just I don't know what you call

2187
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 20: his word sounds at this point, but it's just I

2188
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 20: find it daunting, and you.

2189
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 3: Find it, you find it frustrated that he's not telling

2190
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 3: you anything. He's not he's not that's not explaining anything.

2191
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:39,840
Speaker 3: He's not giving you an excuse. He's just kind of

2192
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 3: thanks to the call man. He appreciates you.

2193
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 1: He's just giving you, yeah words, He's just giving you words.

2194
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:49,799
Speaker 1: They don't mean anything. Look, he's telling you what happened,

2195
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 1: that they aren't happy about the loss, but he's not

2196
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 1: going into any details as to what happens.

2197
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:57,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, And part of that is I don't I don't

2198
01:42:57,880 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 3: know if the right questions are asked, And it's hard

2199
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 3: in real time to think about and ask what needs

2200
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 3: to be asking.

2201
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 2: Certain detail questions.

2202
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 1: Davis might not actually have the correct answer exactly point

2203
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:11,799
Speaker 1: right after the game too, to be honest.

2204
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 3: With you, right, but what was the thought process on

2205
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 3: third and five is a relevant question that absolutely should

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01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 3: have been asked and it wasn't.

2207
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick time out. We'll come back.

2208
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 1: Take a few more calls. I want to hear from

2209
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 1: a couple offensive players. We haven't heard from many of

2210
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,759
Speaker 1: them yet. We here from Daniel Bellinger and Andrew Thomas.

2211
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 1: We'll take you up until ten o'clock when Lourie Rubinson

2212
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,880
Speaker 1: takes over. Right here on the fan, We'll be right back.

2213
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 12: This is Andrew Thomas, and you're listening to Giants football

2214
01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 12: on the fan W Fan and w Fan FM, New York.

2215
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 2: Back here on Giants extra point.

2216
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:44,639
Speaker 1: Giants again fall in just heartbreaking fashion to the Denver

2217
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 1: Broncos thirty three to thirty two. Schmell Katiki with you

2218
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 1: taking a few more of your calls in the next

2219
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 1: fourteen minutes or so until Lloi Rubinson at ten o'clock

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01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 1: at eighty eight eight eight one.

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01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 2: Zero one nine.

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01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, heard from many offensive players after the game.

2223
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 1: Wan here from a couple of them. Let's go with

2224
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 1: Daniel Bellinger, who had maybe his best receiving game as

2225
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 1: a member of the Giants.

2226
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 2: Maybe I had a great game. Let's listening to to

2227
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 2: Daniel after the game.

2228
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 9: How you guested it and how do you come back

2229
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 9: from it? Ultimately, you can't change it. You know, you

2230
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 9: want to go back and you want to maybe change

2231
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 9: one or two plays, but you can't. You can't do

2232
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 9: that in football. We can't do that in life. So

2233
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 9: we gotta keep our head up. You know, we got

2234
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 9: Philly in six days. Get a correct we can correct

2235
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 9: and UH find ways to win these games, can you belgiit?

2236
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:28,879
Speaker 9: Thanks for your time. Thank you appreciate you appreciate.

2237
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 5: I just wanted to ask you in the first quarter.

2238
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 34: Be okay, what was that?

2239
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 7: Yeah?

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01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 9: I had a stinger, so it was it was pretty rough,

2241
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 9: but UH got my shrink back and was.

2242
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 7: Able to come back. Then you came back out and

2243
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 7: you had a touchdown.

2244
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 34: Like I guess he's okay.

2245
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, it felt a little bit better after that.

2246
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 34: Using the tight ends has been really useful. How much

2247
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 34: of you enjoyed being that involved.

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01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 5: In the game.

2249
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 7: Jordan A.

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Speaker 9: Lot, you know, like I was telling them, you know,

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01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 9: it just brings versatility to our offense, allows us to

2252
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 9: keep the defense on their toes and keep us you know,

2253
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,600
Speaker 9: playing fast, playing busy, cool, and so we're likely we

2254
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 9: should keep.

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01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 7: Growing on it.

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01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 34: Have you ever seen an end of the game like

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01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:05,679
Speaker 34: that before.

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01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 9: I've been a part of some wild games. That one,

2259
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 9: that one, that one's up there for sure.

2260
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:13,960
Speaker 7: You ran out of time? Yeah, I mean it was.

2261
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 9: You know, it's gonna be one that that haunts us

2262
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 9: for for a while.

2263
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:19,760
Speaker 12: Thank you very much, Thank you.

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01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you.

2265
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 32: When he was twenty six to eight lead, what were

2266
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 32: you thinking.

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01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 5: Of the boy?

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01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean the the mindset on the sideline was finished.

2269
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:28,760
Speaker 9: Finish finished the game?

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01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 7: Yep, didn't finish?

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01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, didn't. Uh didn't get the result we wanted.

2272
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 7: In the day.

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01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 9: We can't change it.

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01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 5: We gotta fake.

2275
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 9: Figure out what we can fish, you know, make sure

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01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 9: that doesn't happen again.

2277
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 12: Thanks, thank you, guys.

2278
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 5: Just take me through the real quick I missed up.

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01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, so we you know, ran outside zone a couple

2281
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 9: of times, and then you know, a great call by

2282
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 9: our offensive cornertor Kafka, uh set it up a couple

2283
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 9: of times and then fake block run down. I'm not

2284
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:58,720
Speaker 9: exactly sure what happened with Jackson or the back end,

2285
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 9: but they kind of just dropped me and I just

2286
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 9: kept running and Jackson saw me, found me and ready,

2287
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 9: good play.

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01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 16: Were you surprised that you were so open at first?

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01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, you know, originally it looked like the

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01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 9: was pascertain or whatever. It was, looked like they were

2291
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 9: dropping back, and then they kind of stepped up, and

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01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 9: you know, I'm just glad that that Jackson saw it.

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01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 2: Thanks, think your.

2294
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:17,559
Speaker 5: Ship us a lot.

2295
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:17,920
Speaker 35: All right.

2296
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 2: Now, let's go to Andrew Thomas next.

2297
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 12: The group ready as a unit and you know, put

2298
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:25,720
Speaker 12: the best film out there.

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01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 27: Andrew, what did darn't show you after a little late

2300
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 27: interception to get you on a drive that actually puts

2301
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 27: you ahead in the final moment of the game.

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01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 12: The keyword that we talked about this is reload testamentality.

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01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:38,599
Speaker 34: Obviously, you know, we had a turnover late in the game,

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01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:41,560
Speaker 34: but our intention was to go down the score and

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01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 34: we did that.

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01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:44,680
Speaker 12: We did a good job, made some plays for us

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01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 12: and my days would you know, be a really good

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01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:47,400
Speaker 12: player for us in the future.

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01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 5: What did you think about that? Draft that late drafts

2310
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:51,679
Speaker 5: stood out to you about that too.

2311
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 12: Just to the tenacity that you had. I think it

2312
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 12: because of the momentum shifts.

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01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 34: It's easy to put your head down momentum going that way,

2314
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 34: the crowd is sticked out, but which fall as a

2315
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 34: unit and as a team, you know, to come back.

2316
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:07,680
Speaker 7: We just got to finisher.

2317
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 5: What does it say about you guys offense?

2318
01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:11,720
Speaker 8: It would be able to convert that before it was fourteen,

2319
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 8: seventeen nineteen when everyone.

2320
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 5: Was yeah, it was a great play. We needed that.

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01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 5: It's a big one.

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01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 34: We're talking about got apat focus all the time and

2323
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 34: just a few more players to get this one.

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01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,599
Speaker 2: Jicky. A couple guys on offense there.

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01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 1: And it's tough because you score thirty points, you feel

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01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 1: like that should be enough to win the football game. Yeah,

2327
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 1: but at the same time, a couple of crucial drives late.

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01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 1: You also can't convert first downs on consecutive.

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01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's interesting.

2330
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:38,720
Speaker 3: So I was having this conversation with Evan Roberts, my

2331
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 3: co host on Evan and Tiki every Monday to Friday

2332
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 3: two to six thirty pm shameless plug. After the Jets

2333
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:48,719
Speaker 3: Week one lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

2334
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 2: Remember this game.

2335
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 3: It was like a high scoring game and they played

2336
01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 3: relatively well. Justin Fields made a couple of really good throws,

2337
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 3: and I remember Evan was upset about it because they

2338
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:00,920
Speaker 3: didn't win, and I was like, you know what, Evan, you.

2339
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 2: Guys look good. The only thing you just lost, right

2340
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:06,719
Speaker 2: is you played well. You just you just lost.

2341
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:09,760
Speaker 3: And it's kind of what I feel like with this

2342
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 3: Giants team right now. You played well except when it mattered,

2343
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 3: and you lost the game that you should have won.

2344
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 3: And so the thing I take away is that this

2345
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 3: Giants team, when they're on and they're not making mistakes.

2346
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 3: That's all, all units and all facets of the team

2347
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 3: are not making mistakes. This team can play with anybody,

2348
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 3: and I mean even the best teams in the league.

2349
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:33,559
Speaker 3: It's just it's just a matter of figuring out how

2350
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 3: to win games, how to create that that that that

2351
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 3: must do it culture and must win moments you take

2352
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 3: advantage of. And they haven't done that consistently enough, and

2353
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 3: it's why they find themselves at two and five. And

2354
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 3: it sucks because you look at two of those losses

2355
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 3: and you say they could have even should have been

2356
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 3: wins and like, accepting that is is not easy as player.

2357
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 3: It just really isn't.

2358
01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Nacho U Ninya's roaches after

2359
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 1: the game. I'm told both by Pete Hoffin and Pauledatino

2360
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 1: he was excellent after the game. So let's listen from him,

2361
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 1: and then we'll wrap up the last few minutes getting

2362
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:08,400
Speaker 1: as many phone calls as we can.

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01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 7: Here's not your Yeah, that could have been a factor.

2364
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 7: That could have been a part. Be honest with you.

2365
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 35: We were getting used to being throwing out, so we

2366
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 35: weren't tested when it came to the altitude. So when

2367
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 35: it started, you know, putting plays back to back and

2368
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,680
Speaker 35: getting a drive, maybe that's why guys felt, you know,

2369
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:25,679
Speaker 35: a short window or whatever.

2370
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, we have guys

2371
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:28,599
Speaker 7: that we have depth.

2372
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 35: So if you feel any type of wind that sub out,

2373
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 35: let's somebody else go one hundred percent, whether you're going

2374
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:34,599
Speaker 35: sixty percent.

2375
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 7: So I don't know if that was the case. I

2376
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:38,560
Speaker 7: just know we didn't ask you how we know we

2377
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 7: execue nature.

2378
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 11: You mentioned a coming ago. You said currently that's our nature.

2379
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 8: It sounded like Patt had been asking you about it's

2380
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 8: a human nature to kind of let up.

2381
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:46,759
Speaker 11: And you said, currently it's.

2382
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:49,040
Speaker 7: Our nature not worry about humor or worry about what

2383
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 7: we do.

2384
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 2: Of course, how troubling is it that that is an issue.

2385
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 35: I mean, it's one of the things we got, you know,

2386
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:59,720
Speaker 35: young guys, we got older guys depending on younger guys.

2387
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 35: So it's just a culture, like your ass every time,

2388
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 35: we're trying to redefine our culture, our identity and things

2389
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 35: like that. And that's one of the things, like not

2390
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:10,719
Speaker 35: getting not riding the way too high and not riding

2391
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 35: the lows two lolls, you know what I'm saying, Like

2392
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 35: keeping stagnant throughout, expecting success, expecting me dominant, inspecting those things,

2393
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:21,680
Speaker 35: and sometimes, like su said, can sometimes go to not

2394
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 35: only you know, the teammates, my head, our head, but

2395
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 35: how you work through those things, how do you not

2396
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:30,560
Speaker 35: just take that energy and just keep applying. They're just

2397
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 35: taking the ease off the you know.

2398
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:32,759
Speaker 5: Gas.

2399
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 2: Sorry to you.

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01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 1: He's a veteran obviously, you know he's been here for

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01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 1: this thirty year now, he's been here for some losing

2402
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 1: and you can just sense the frustration of this.

2403
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, I mean the frustration is there because

2404
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:48,560
Speaker 3: he understands that this team, you don't want to be

2405
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 3: emotional because you can't because you got to play a

2406
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 3: game in six days or five days, whatever it is

2407
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 3: for them, six days now, and if they got a

2408
01:50:57,280 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 3: long trip home, they're gonna get home.

2409
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 2: Probably is this a reddie? Will this be a Red

2410
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:04,720
Speaker 2: eye ish kind of right? I think they're getting in

2411
01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 2: around one or two. Yeah, it's not too bad, right,

2412
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 2: They're gonna get home late tonight, and.

2413
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:12,599
Speaker 3: Tomorrow is just gonna be a recovery day, and then

2414
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 3: Tuesday's your off day, and then you got to get

2415
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 3: right back into the Philadelphia Eagles. Now, it helps that

2416
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:18,880
Speaker 3: you played the Eagles only a couple of weeks ago,

2417
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:21,639
Speaker 3: and so the game plan is likely to be somewhat similar,

2418
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 3: even though I'm sure there will be some adjustments and

2419
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 3: movements from two weeks ago.

2420
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 1: But Eagles, by the way, looked like a very similar

2421
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 1: team today than what they looked against the Giants two Absolutely.

2422
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 2: I mean they won somewhat big against who did they

2423
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,560
Speaker 2: play today? They played the Vikings? Yeah, the Vikings, But

2424
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:38,680
Speaker 2: that a lot of that was just Carson Wentz being

2425
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 2: bad and just a couple of big plays. They had

2426
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 2: a pick six and they had an eighty seven yard But.

2427
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 3: Also the Vikings were in the red area a bunch

2428
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 3: of times and just kicked field goals over and over

2429
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:51,840
Speaker 3: and over again. And one of the things that the

2430
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:53,600
Speaker 3: Giants have gotten really good at a scoring in the

2431
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 3: red zone. So are the Eagles beatable? Of course they're beatable.

2432
01:51:58,000 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 3: Can the Giants do it? It depends on how they

2433
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 3: re from this bad loss.

2434
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2435
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 2: Absolutely, All right, let's get back to the phones here.

2436
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 1: Eight eight, one zero one, nine guys, get let's get

2437
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:09,400
Speaker 1: one comment end, we're gonna get out. I got about

2438
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 1: five or six guys. I want to try to squeeze

2439
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 1: them all in. So let's lead things off with Joe

2440
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 1: and Florida. Joe, what's going on?

2441
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 20: You're talking to you? You're a great athlete, all that stuff.

2442
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 20: But Tinky, you're a.

2443
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 24: Diehard Giant fan, a Giant player. I don't see the

2444
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 24: passion disgust what you saw today. I am curious, like

2445
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 24: most Giant fans, of what I saw today.

2446
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 20: We should not let the get away.

2447
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 24: I'm sorry.

2448
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 20: Coaching has to be to blame for this somehow, some way.

2449
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:45,480
Speaker 19: I know the players, those the players.

2450
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:46,880
Speaker 29: They gotta do what they gotta do.

2451
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:49,760
Speaker 24: But I'm sorry, you can't let this go. We had

2452
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 24: a spark. We had a SPARKI we had a spark

2453
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 24: shot the last few years that we haven't had and

2454
01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:00,840
Speaker 24: it kisses me off, to be honest, they would let

2455
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:04,280
Speaker 24: this one go. Yeah, we had we had something going.

2456
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 29: We had something going.

2457
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:07,479
Speaker 24: Oh, we might not made me a wild card, we

2458
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:09,799
Speaker 24: might not have done all that, but we had something.

2459
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:11,679
Speaker 24: We had something to buy it onto for the last

2460
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 24: few years.

2461
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:15,360
Speaker 1: Well, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, real quick now, Joe, I

2462
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 1: hear you. And by the way, I can tell you

2463
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 1: appreciate the call. Tiki was quite passionate while we were

2464
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:20,800
Speaker 1: watching this game four.

2465
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:23,719
Speaker 3: What's only because I knew it was going to happen.

2466
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 3: And I hate being right about these things, but I

2467
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 3: knew it was going to happen when the third and

2468
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 3: five was intercepted. And as that is, that play was

2469
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:34,840
Speaker 3: was developing and not even developing, as they were getting

2470
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 3: ready to call the play, I was sitting there.

2471
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 2: What did I say to you? Run the ball? You yelled, started,

2472
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:43,160
Speaker 2: just run it.

2473
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 3: Make them use all three of your timeouts. And the

2474
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 3: reason and I've said this already, this is the third

2475
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 3: time is that they had a possession to burn and

2476
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 3: they didn't have to uh go down and score, they

2477
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 3: have to do anything. They had a possession to burn

2478
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:58,640
Speaker 3: and that and you burn that possession by running the

2479
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:02,000
Speaker 3: clock and forcing the Denver Broncos and Sean Payton to

2480
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 3: use all three of their timeouts. Not only did they

2481
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 3: not use all three of their timeouts, you gave him

2482
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 3: a short field where they went and scored in less

2483
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 3: than a minute. And now all of a sudden, the

2484
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 3: pressure's on a young quarterback. So just like that, because

2485
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 3: of one play call. And again it never comes down

2486
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:17,599
Speaker 3: to one play, but one play call changed the pressure

2487
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 3: point in this game. The pressure point was on the

2488
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,560
Speaker 3: Denver Broncos. If you punt in that situation, they have

2489
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 3: no timeouts. They got to go seventy five yards to

2490
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:28,240
Speaker 3: get in position to score. The pressure is on the

2491
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 3: Denver Broncos as soon as they score and now they're

2492
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 3: just three points behind. The pressure is on a twenty

2493
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 3: three year old quarterback who has to now put a

2494
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:39,320
Speaker 3: drive together and now he's done it the whole game,

2495
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:40,320
Speaker 3: but now.

2496
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 2: He has to do it as opposed to it's a

2497
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 2: luxury if you do it.

2498
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 5: We have a big lead.

2499
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. We can just punt.

2500
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 3: When you give up that interception and give them point

2501
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 3: blake scoring opportunities.

2502
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:53,200
Speaker 1: The pressure flipped. And when you flip the pressure and

2503
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 1: put it it's if it's Peyton Manning, you don't care.

2504
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 2: Who gives a crap. Peyton made a mistake, you know

2505
01:54:59,200 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 2: he can pick it up.

2506
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart makes a mistake because of the play call,

2507
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, all the pressure is now

2508
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 3: on him. Now he responded, obviously helped in part because

2509
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:13,840
Speaker 3: of a great throw by him, and then a roughing

2510
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 3: the passer and then a pass interference, and then he

2511
01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 3: goes and scored.

2512
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:19,760
Speaker 2: But I gotta be honest. When he scores, the first

2513
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 2: thing I'm thinking is there's too much time. Me too.

2514
01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 2: I was like, almost, just don't score. We don't want

2515
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 2: to score. We have seen this play before.

2516
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:31,840
Speaker 1: Let Cam Scataboo run twice and eventually eventually score.

2517
01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 2: And there's twenty seconds left on the clock.

2518
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 7: And so the.

2519
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:40,160
Speaker 3: Circumstances led to a discouraging and I get just a

2520
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 3: hard defeat.

2521
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 2: But I can't help but go back to the third

2522
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 2: and five.

2523
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 1: I knew it in the moment and as soon as

2524
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 1: that interception happened, I said, they're losing this game, all right,

2525
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 1: and they did all right?

2526
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 2: Two quickies, John and Hazl's on the next John, gentlemen,

2527
01:55:57,440 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 2: let me.

2528
01:55:58,360 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 30: Just set the scene real quick. Three and a half

2529
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 30: per ride up to Oneonta driving my son, and we're

2530
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 30: made home. Listen to the game in the mountains, either

2531
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 30: on the Sunday ticket, how to switch the FA N when.

2532
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 19: We lost that signal.

2533
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 30: I lost the f AN signal on the interception on

2534
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 30: the John touchdown. And then we come back and I'm

2535
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:20,280
Speaker 30: hearing something happened I and now I'm driving home.

2536
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 7: We have out.

2537
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 30: My emotion are up and down with the catskills.

2538
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 19: Basically that's rough.

2539
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:33,879
Speaker 30: It's rough, but again I'm I'm gonna be less emotional

2540
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:36,880
Speaker 30: than some of the other callers. Horrific loss and and

2541
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:39,760
Speaker 30: I don't know if you listen to the game or

2542
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 30: watch the game where you guys were both okay, So

2543
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 30: to the last like thirty five minutes, we sat in

2544
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 30: the parking lot of his dorm watching the game on

2545
01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:49,720
Speaker 30: my phone.

2546
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 20: At that point the defense looked exhausted to me.

2547
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 30: Hands on hips, the tids getting blown away on that

2548
01:56:57,560 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 30: on that run, like they just looked really just done

2549
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:02,880
Speaker 30: at that point. I do think the altitude, They're not

2550
01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 30: gonna use it in this but I do think it

2551
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 30: beat them. That aside, your rookie quarterbacks scores thirty two

2552
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 30: points against the number one defense in the league, and

2553
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:15,720
Speaker 30: it wasn't pretty, but he got the job done. And

2554
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:20,160
Speaker 30: listen Angst in his voice in the post game, this

2555
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 30: kid is going to win games for us.

2556
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 1: Whether he's gonna be great, he's gonna be great. You

2557
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 1: can quack, thank you, but you also need to you

2558
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 1: need to win.

2559
01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:33,880
Speaker 3: And the one thing then and then I've been fighting

2560
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 3: with Sean Morash on Twitter or on on on on

2561
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 3: text message. I love Sean, but that was your first

2562
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:45,520
Speaker 3: mistake because what I care about is building something here

2563
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:50,480
Speaker 3: and continuity is important, and if you don't win games,

2564
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 3: continuity doesn't exist.

2565
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:56,320
Speaker 2: There are consequences to losses, right, and when.

2566
01:57:56,800 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 3: You're when you're you're trying to develop young players and

2567
01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 3: you're trying to re establish a culture that existed here

2568
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:07,280
Speaker 3: a short time ago, three years ago, when this staff

2569
01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:10,680
Speaker 3: one Coach of the year. You want it to continue.

2570
01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:15,440
Speaker 3: But that only happens if you win, and you can't

2571
01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 3: lose games like that, and one because it pushes you closer,

2572
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 3: as I said earlier, towards irrelevancy. So you get into

2573
01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:25,080
Speaker 3: if they don't beat the Eagles, if they don't beat

2574
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:27,760
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers, they have a tough schedule coming forward.

2575
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, you get into December and

2576
01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 3: you're not playing meaningful football. And maybe these guys don't

2577
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:36,280
Speaker 3: check out. Maybe the leadership of Bobby Okarak and some

2578
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 3: of these young players really rises that the sinking ship.

2579
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:43,480
Speaker 2: But you don't know, because we don't know this team yet.

2580
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 1: It's a new iteration of New York Giant football, and

2581
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:48,560
Speaker 1: it feels like it's right and there are pieces here,

2582
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:52,880
Speaker 1: but the last thing you can have is this team

2583
01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:54,840
Speaker 1: not playing the way that they played today.

2584
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Speaker 1: out this week on all those Giants platforms. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back next Sunday Giants and Eagles. That will be pregame

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Speaker 1: right here on the fan at eleven am game at

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Speaker 1: one that's in Philadelphia as the Giants played the Eagles

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Speaker 1: for the second time in three weeks. For Tiki Barber,

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Speaker 1: for Bob Papa, for Carl Banks, for Howard Cross, for

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Speaker 1: our entire crew, including call Paul Latino. I am John Charon,

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Speaker 1: thanks for being with us today for Giants football. Laurie

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Speaker 1: Rubinson coming your way next right here on the fan.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week.